BMW E38 7 and 5 series E39, M60 M62 M62-TU REAR OSV PCV (membrane) PCV swap in 10 minutes
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2012
- Diagnosis, inspection and fix of the rear membrane.
Part number needed 11617501563
PCV change
Blue smoke
Rough idle 
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Just did this yesterday, and it worked! Saved my family the $300 a local shop wanted to charge me, and it took me 20 minutes. No more smoke, no more rough idle, no more gurgling. Problem solved. THANK YOU!!!
You do know just how important your video is here, right?
Jeez, thank you for ....well *everybody* on this planet with a BMW.
YHVH Bless!
MadeByYHVH SavedByIησοῦς right!!!! Straight up super hero to the rescue
That is not a OSV (Oil Separator Valve) like everyone mistakes. That is the crankcase vent valve on the back of the manifold. Sure, that connects to the oil separator by a pipe underneath the intake manifold, but its not an oil separator. The OSV is under the U-Shaped timing guide
VERY helpful! Getting ready to do mine. You just saved me a lot of work! Thanks!
Found out mine is starting to go.. In fear of stripping the bolts, I've been putting it off. But now that I've seen this, I'm ordering one tonight. Thanks.
Thank you for saving me several hours of work and frustration!! Great video.
Sehr gutes Video !! Erspart mir viel Arbeit und ich weis beim Auto Kauf schnell ob es daran liegt das er qualmt wie es der Verkäufer gesagt hat 👍🏼
YES!!! you done what I was thinking of doing and it works, SHAME they are not selling a kit with membrane spring and the cover for r39 and 38, BIG THANKS to you for the great video !!!!!!
Homerraas this is exactly the problem I had! Helped me solve the weird squealing noise and oil consumption, nice one, thanks for this video.
Your tip worked for me! Thank you, and I hope you will send us more...
Hey mate, I did exactly what you said in your video, and it took only 5 minutes in and out, and running like a dream.
Thank you.
Short, easy and to the point. Thank you
Wow thanks. I've been dreading the day I have to do this. But this makes it a simple 10 minutes job.
You have seriously made my day. I am chasing a vacuum leak on my 2001 540 and don't really want to replace the entire CCV for fear it will require removing the intake manifold. Now, I can just replace the membrane and test it out. Wow! Wunderbar!
howd that work out
...awesome video, just got a 540i and had the bad valve...other videos make it look harder than it is, and has us taking all the torx out...and blames the other "rubbers' as the culprit, when in fact, it is just the membrane...THX a million
Omg you saved me so much time I truly appreciate it. It literally took me 5 min all the Job however I started it didn’t smoke drove it for a bit and started smoking a little bit I’m assuming it’s old oil being in the intake sitting there. I will drive more and see
Great video thank you. Doing mine tomorrow.
thanks edwin, you just kept me from ordering an entire gasket kit.
Thanks you just saved me a lot of money and it worked perfectly.
thank you for the video, i wish mechanics from my country watch and learn, im sure they are thinking that engine went bad when it smokes like that.
your a genius ! simple fix instead of removal the bolts
Very useful video! Thanks.
That's a very clever way of doing it! Avoids that fiddling with the 7 barely accessible Torx bolts! Thanks for that video
Seems a pity that just the membrane isn't available?
Just removed mine according to your method. Sure enough...the membrane is split! I just have to wait for the replacement to arrive now. I'll see if that cures my problems. Thanks.
nice diy. I did this and it was quite eazsy! thanks
Yes! The key is the whistle sound, when you hear it just put your hand on the membrane and aply pressure if the sound changes you got the culprit, be sure you get OEM and no aftermarket junk
Same I have changed begin of this year
Cost part osv in Thailand about 120 USD plus labour fee about 30 usd Totally pay about 150 usd and engine back to work well done. Happy driving ultimate machine agains. Cool machine V8 4.4 Lites
NengBMW.
Thank you E!
It worked impecable...
nice and simple. thank you.
awesome this is truly a time saver.. thanx!!
Awesome video! Thanks for the tip, should really help me out someday.
Yes it still does that, yes rough on cold smooth when warm
Well done. Clear and easy to follow, even for me ;-)
Holy smokes! Ive got to try this on mine!
Great Video, Thank you Very Much.
Great video very helpful
Hi Edwin, thanks for this nice trick and for taking the time to film/share it:), Is there any difference in the symptoms if the part that goes into the intake manifold is what fails?
Thanks!
Glad it helped you!
Did it yesterday based on this video. In my case the original membrane was OK, but the plastic cap which holds the membrane had one of the holding holes broken. I also guess that the oil leak on the back of the engine that I was chasing for a half a year was coming from here. Tomorrow I'm going to wash the engine and then observe if the oil leak continues.
What a GREAT way to flat rate this bitch of a job OSV. Great work!! I'm gonna try this on my 535iV8.
thanks man i just broke every damn clip to my cap 🙂
Very nice video Sir! What a shame that you didn't show what's going on with the dipstick after the change, but very helpful anyway. Cheers
yes that could be, how does the engine run when cold? can you make a video of the suction??
Awesome!! Thank you!!
PCV, Positive Crankcase Ventilation. Very informative if you need to replace it.
@HoZyVN yes it still dus (that's the oil pump you hear) but the suction should be almost gone. this one had only a little hole so no, if you have the cold rough idle look at my M62 leak test video
I wish there was a "Love" button for this video! I have been putting this off for a while because of the space restriction to replace the CCV. THANK YOU!
David Inancsi just BE SURE you get the original others won’t fit the original base plate
Homerraas understood. I’m pretty sure I found one at BMW of South Atlanta. My 99 540i shows part number 11-61-7-501-563.
Another question. I’ve got a used LCM and have put off replacing because I do t want to lose my mileage readout. Is there any other easier way to reflash or program to get the readout back without having to spend over 100.00 at a German auto shop in town?
David Inancsi nope, unit needs coding te preserve mileage
Homerraas got it! Thank you for your help! Happy New Year!
Thank you! I'll try to find it))
When idle pull the dipstick and feel if you have a strong suction there
Wow I'm taking my baby to the dealership tomorrow I will let you know how it turns out
very cool!
IT'S A SHAME THEY SELL THAT WHOLE PART, ALL YOU NEED IS THE RUBBER MEMBRANE SMH...GREAT POST BRO!!!
Thank you !!! Will try =)
If you have a lot of suction at the dip stick that indicates a vacuum leak somewhere
THANK YOU!!!
sounds like a little oil and condensation due to the cold hard to judge from here, do you have any suction on the dipstick when the car is running
You my hero
Sweet. My 99 740il just started doing this burning oil on cold starts. Everyone says it's this. This is the only video that I've seen that just shows changing the diaphragm. It's the same exact symptom. Except I hear that it can cause rough idle and a whistle. Buy I have neither. Just the little bit of smoke and you can smell it. Anyway. Pretty sure the part is like 14 something. Hope it fixes it. Pretty sure it will. Thanks for this video. I love my car to much to let it fall apart. Also happy I have a 7 series with much more room than the other modles with m62s.
An aftermarket piece will not fit you need the original
An aftermarket piece will not fit you need the original
Hello Homerraas, you seem like an expert on these engines :) I have a problem with a 540 with blue smoke on startup and acceleration after engine braking. I have changed the oil separator behind the timing cover. I get whistling noise from back of the engine sometimes. But i get no vacuum at all when removing dip stick?? Could it still be the Membrane that needs changing/cleaning?
Is the battery charging enough? Did you check the output from the alternator? See my other video's how to unlock the cluster or you can have a bad cell in the battery
I bought what looks like the same PCV plate you have and I'm still considering whether or not to just change the membrane or the whole plate. One thing I just noticed is the replacement PCV has an extra vacuum line (the one with the orange o ring) which the factory PCV doesn't have. Should I just cap this, I'm assuming it's for a different application, I have the 3.0 V8 btw?
I didnt check it yet.Tomorrow I check it out and post it here.
@Homerraas After fitting the new OSV membrane, If the car is idling an you pull the dipstick out, Does it still gurgle? An before you replaced it, Was your car rough on a cold start an then smooth as it got warmer?
Had done this repair. Had no gurgle in dipstick, now I do. Noticed the diaphragm was not clicked in all the way. After snapping it in fully, still had gurgle/idle/smoke. Decided to replace the whole part and reunite the new diaphragm. Still having symptoms. Could the part be bad? It looked fine. Also have a leak in front throttle, could that cause issues w dipstick?
I'm going to try it! As soon as I get the correct part... Hopefully by this time next week my 740il will not be smoking.
+David Haile My valve arrived so I followed the instructions to pop the cap off as shown. The plastic isn't as flexible on mine as it is on the video and a few tabs on the New valve cracked. I'm not too worried - yet. If the cap on the existing bad valve comes off as easy on my 740il as it does in the video, I'll use the old cap with the new membrane. I should know tomorrow morning if it worked. Anyway - advice to anyone else who wants to give it a try is to see if you can modify a screwdriver by bending up a lip on the very end of the screwdriver. This may enable it to get behind the tabs and pry them out before they crack like mine did. My near worst case is to silicone the new cap in place. The absolute worst case is I have to buy another valve. That's not too expensive.
+David Haile The reason why they break is that people are not using an original part. The much cheaper aftermarket parts break and don't fit
Advice for the next person to try it at home: If you are using a cheap aftermarket part like I did, the ones that are $20 on Ebay, spend some time looking at the part to figure out how to remove the cap from the new part without breaking the tabs. The aftermarket part is not created using high quality plastic. Two of the 5 tabs broke but I used it anyway. It seemed to snap to the old housing securely. The old PCV housing was definitely original. The old cap broke in pieces and the original diaphragm stuck to the housing. It took a few minutes to get all the old pieces off. That's the entire challenge of this project, though. Once the old cap was clear, the new cap was simple to align the spring and snap in place.
2002 BMW 740il
Advice for the next person to try it at home: If you are using a cheap aftermarket part like I did, the ones that are $20 on Ebay, spend some time looking at the part to figure out how to remove the cap from the new part without breaking the tabs. The aftermarket part is not created using high quality plastic. Two of the 5 tabs broke but I used it anyway. It seemed to snap to the old housing securely. The old PCV housing was definitely original. The old cap broke in pieces and the original diaphragm stuck to the housing. It took a few minutes to get all the old pieces off. That's the entire challenge of this project, though. Once the old cap was clear, the new cap was simple to align the spring and snap in place.
2002 BMW 740il
I changed my intake manifold Cover as you showed in the video.But I changed all parts.before from the oil dipstick was coming air out side.But now I changed with new cover and after that it pulls my finger inside?but everything works normal there s not any smoke at all.
Question is does it have suction when you put your finger on it? if the part is good you should have mild to none. Glue well depends on how bad it's ripped............
If it smokes like in the video then yes.
Pull the dipstick if there is a hard vacuum when you put your finger on it then yes OSV, If you think the MAF then just pull the plug and drive it see if it changes
As said before normal no hard to tell based on just YOUR words!
on my 740 3/1995 there seems to be another screw holding the membrane as far as i can see.does it hold the spring?
Homerraas, Do you know the BMW part number to order just the cap, spring and diaphragm. All I can find is the whole PCV assembly
when I changed my OSV part.I took the intake manifold out and I put it on back there can it be that maybe I didnt put it back to the place good.and it is getting a vacum leak underneath the intake manifold?
what color is the smoke?
Does it cause excessive smell of carbon when worn out?
Bad cell of the battery??
I get a "Check Engine" light once in a while. The code comes back as a vacuum leak. I wonder if this could be it......
Hey I got a 95 m540i and it very recently started doing the same (smoke)! I'm pretty sure it's not a vanos engine, its an m60b40? or something like that. Is the procedure exactly the same for my car?
thanks
genus
Hello.I checked it out now From the oil dipstick s coming air like cold air.so is it the same thing?
+Homerraas were you still getting the gurguling sound after you swap the cap?
Very little but yes, no suction anymore
The BMW logo suggests that is an original replacement BMW CCV cover in your video. Is that right? I tried this method with on my 18 yr old M62 CCV cover diaphragm with 2 screwdrivers of differing diameters and it was impossible. I had the garage replace the whole cover for me in the end, which required removing the intake manifold as the lower bolts would not budge, and I asked for the old cover back at the end so I could practice the above method and also check out the state of the diaphragm; and even then it was impossible to get the circular cover off the back without breaking it off around each tab with a screwdriver and knife. Perhaps it might have been possible to do it if I levered it by 2 or 3 tabs at once, with a lot of force and risking breaking it. But doing it at one tab at a time didn't work as the plastic was so stiff it wouldn't give the play required to clear it of the tab. Maybe there is some variances in the tolerances of the parts, but I take this whole method with a pinch of salt when it comes to any future PCV issues. Lucky for you that you managed it on yours!
Fabian Dee Sorry that it didn’t work for you, I have done this trick on about 40 cars from my customers all without any issues. Yes some tabs will break but as you have a new original one that will then pop right back into place
Hope it works out!
YES!!! you done what I was thinking of doing and it works, SHAME they are not selling a kit with membrane spring and the cover for r39 and 38, BIG THANKS to you for the great video !!!!!! my e39 540i was making a nasty whistle noise, now is GONE just as the smoke!!
Installed catless Downpipes 2008 535xi now getting white smoke
Start the car, let it get warm (or drive it) the when running pull the dipstick see if the RPM change then place your finger on the dipstick if there is a vacuum (pulls your finger) then it could be the OSV
it sounds similiar to M57 :-) you buy it in such condition or what?
The mechanic informed me that this OSV got a problem. The engine trembles and produce black smoke. Another mechanic suggested that it's an air mass issue
E38 1996 735iL
Both :)
104 comments and not ONE person mentioned that this is NOT THE OSV!!! This is the CCV or the Pressure Control Valve. The OSV is the Oil Separator Valve and it is located at the front of the M62 motor inside of the engine. I can't believe in 2 and a half years I am the only one who has stated this. Come on guys.
Read the text under the video, this is common talked about as the OSV and also know as that. I do agree with you but it's a fact if I made this video and said CCV nobody would know what this was about ;)
From the pic i took its hard to tell if it is a screw or a srewlooking cross imprinted in the plastic at the bottom close to the letters PA.
My god you sound JUST like John Goodman!
engine s running perfect.but when i was changing the OSV after I finished everything and I put everything back together on engine I started to car car was closing by itself.and i looked the Vent pipe was out.I forgot to put it on there.and I opened once again intake manifold and I put the vent pipe on the place and car started to run normal.But I dont know can it get air out from the vent pipe.But anyway I will go to take a video
My E38 M62 (4.4) engine is shaking strong and blows white/black smoke. The same cold or warm engine. Can it be the purpose of shaking ?
that sounds like a vacuum leak somewhere.
Hard to diagnose like this
BMW E39 5 series M52 also has the same thing?
how the hell did you get that off, i can't get it off on a unused ccv
Mine smokes from back of motor??
Sorry I want to ask one more question About my battery.The battery s draining by itself I drove about 100km and I came near my home.after 3 hour Battery drain at all.I dont know what s wrong.if u can help me about this I really thanks u alot,
How can I understand that?I put it on the battery charger it gets full of charged in 1-2 hour...so maybe it should be a bad battery.once again sorry that I m asking to much question:)
Ok,ill tell you what i see when i have it in my hands.
sounds like it