More like just fighter. Everywhere I look says they carry proton torpedoes but it doesn't appear as though they can be fired because there doesn't appear to be a launcher. The hole in the front is just a light and I studied the ship for hours looking for the launcher I swear it doesn't have one anywhere.
@@xerthetvaoan it must be hidden like the BTA-NR2's Y-Wing. And I don't think it has an bomber performance. Just because it has proton torpedoes doesn't mean it's a bomber. I really get angry when they call this traditional fighter something that it's not.
More of a Fighter/ Attack (F/A) starship. It had heavy cannons and Proton Torpedoes so it could damage larger ships but also hold it's own against fighters in a furball.
Yup, "let's use crappy fighters to save credits, and we'll build STUPIDLY expensive ships and battle stations with glaringly obvious faults!" Buy TIE Defenders, scrap the Death Stars, rule the galaxy forever.
Palpy WAS planning to expand to the unknown regions. Just wanted to cement his rule with the stupidly huge battle stations first and THEN turn his war machine to external threats, once he'd dealt with internal dissidents. So the wartime economy would've worked, since he'd be putting the galaxy into a new war. Directly contradicts his whole "we will bring peace" thing, but hey! That's what Death Stars are for! Stamping out people who call you out on breaking your promises!
"It's engines are able to accelerate the ship at 6,200 (correction, 2,600) G's, allowing reasonable maneuverability for a bomber." I guess it's a good thing they have inertial dampers
6200g, at this point you need inertia dampeners for your inertia dampeners, how can the plasma bolts reach another ship in a straight line when it's target is continually accelerating at these kind of speed?
Scorpixel that’s called quantum resonance, because some forms of gas and energy in its purist form have no particle mass they exert supper frictionless motion, meaning whatever speed a thing is they will travel at the same speed, and because plasma weapons use a form of rail gun electro magnets to propel them faster they will always go faster than the ship no matter the speed.
Puny organic beings, they can accelerate at over 60km/s (around 6200g, g being 9.41m/s or something like that?) aka double the speed of a standard Halo Mac PER SECOND but end up dogfighting at close range and literally space grandma speeds due to their inherent inferiority to AI kind
I don't remember where I saw this, and I haven't been able to find it since I first saw it, but when the ARC-170 came out for "Revenge of the Sith" I swear I saw a cut away of this ship that showed much of the interior of the craft was hollowed out for crew accommodations. All three of the crew pilots could descend into the cramped belly of the ship and there were fold-away cots, a fresher station (toilet} and minor accommodations such as food for extended recon patrols. The astromech always stayed socketed and thus was almost constantly on watch even when the crew was asleep. Did anyone else ever see this?
I would have to check older versions of the "The ships of Star Wars" book. The one I have is the most recent and I don't see the cutout for that blueprint section in the ARC-170 section
Exactly, Matt! The Death Star reminds me of the Yamato. Biggest battleship (along with her sister) in history and she was destroyed by a buncha fighters.
Chris sonofPear I believe tarkin made the vague outlines of making a sweeping wave of cheaper fighters, then it became exaggerated to an extreme by all the ship manufacturers
Honestly, it seems like KDY probably would have predicted a longer lifespan for the Venator, since a battle line of ISDs, supported by VSDs and with Venators providing a large fighter screen makes a lot of sense, with all three ships able to provide overlapping broadsides and offering slightly different roles within a combined formation. But that's making some assumptions on my part about the in-service and design dates for the ISD and VSD, which I don't think have been quite canonized yet after Legends was retired under the Mickey Doctrine.
To me the Venator Star Destroyers should be prime targets for Rebellion highjacking to bolster their fleets & the ARC-170s added to the the Rebellion's small craft armada to make for superior fighting power against the overwhelming number of Tarkin Doctrine TIE craft.
I agree, the Venator would work extremly well with the Rebellion's Tacticts, not to mention that ARC-170s were far from outdated during the time of the Galactic Civil War.
@@DasMaurice yup, a Star Destroyer that actually works as a carrier & has a well rounded arsenal stuffed with a variety of purpose built small craft, a Rebel commander's dream ship.
You mean except for the fact that the Alliance didn't have the supply chains to maintain them, reliable access to sufficient crew numbers or the organisation needed to capture/maintain one?
@@orutakawatenga8820 Which would help how? They can't Crew a Venator, they can't obtain a Venator and the only way they can help maintain a Venator is if the Venator sticks around in the general area, which defeats the point of the stateless strategy
Wrong M8 the ISD I is superior to the ISD II because it has light AA the ISD II replaced the AA for more turbolaser batteries plus it's got a crummy hangar 72 fighters in a 1600m ship is just not enough
@@lancer737 That's why they lost to small rebelion ? That's why smugglers and Rebels can freerly move through Imperial Blocades and escape ISD's ? That's why Imperial starfighters are by far the worst starfighters in whole Star Wars universe ?
Still my all-time favourite starfighter from the universe. I can't help but love the look of it, even if the massively spread guns are a little silly. Also, nice use of KotOR II music. Onderon battle theme, takes me back!
It's obvious that 2,600 g acceleration is bonkers, but I decided to do the math on it: 2,600 g = 25,480 m/s^2, and I'll say the ARC-170 needs to maintain that acceleration for 5 minutes, similarly to afterburning fighter jets. That means the total change of velocity, aka delta-V, is 7,644,000 m/s, so if you point your ARC-170 into space and floor it until you run out of propellant, you'll get going to 2.55% of light speed. What sort of engine do you need to do that? I'll start by guessing the fighter's mass at 6,000 kg filled and 4,000 kg dry, roughly proportional to modern jet fighters; now I can solve the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation, which gives us an average exhaust velocity of 18,852,424 m/s, or 6.29% of light speed. The exhaust velocity in itself isn't actually that crazy; certain fission-fragment and fusion rocket concepts come close, as does The Expanse's Epstein Drive. The trouble is the ARC-170's engines have to spit 6.67 kg of propellant at that extreme velocity per second, resulting in a power requirement of 1.185 petawatts(!). How much is that? Well, the Rolls-Royce MT30 turboshaft engines used on the Zumwalt-class destroyer can produce 40 megawatts each, and mass 6,500 kg. We can do the job with "only" 29,625,000 of those! If a fancy space reactor can produce that much power, there's another problem. Every engine produces some waste heat, and if just 1% of this engine's waste heat is absorbed by the fighter, it will be destroyed almost instantly; that 1% is enough power to melt 4,000 kg of aluminum in about a fifth of a millisecond. Fly safe!
The ARC-170 was the first decently sized lego model I ever built and for this reason it will always have a special place in my heart, I love how it looks and they really define the Clone Wars look and feel for me in a single vessel.
It beats the X-Wing as my favorite starfighter, although if only those 4 little S-foils had cannons of their own to decrease the wiggle room an enemy fighter had when being targeted, then the ARC-170 would have beaten the X-Wing by landslide, at least for me. Great video Spacedock!
I actually like the ARC-170 so much its a shame that the writers and the story didn't use these fighters more often. Y-Wings were retired and the Rebels used them. Z-95s were used but this fighter kind of got the boot. The empire used them a little bit but focused on TIEs ultimately. I kind of wished in some ways they had a later variant of this that was used as a long range fighter like the Assault Gunboat that incorporated this design concept and was used by the Empire just to a very small minor degree to reflect the Tarkin Doctrine. I can still the lineage of this design being used by an Empire that relies on short range starfighters and even spook the Rebels are not using ARCs.
Seems such a waste of effort to completely retool a ready made fleet just to enact the vague and transparently flawed ideas of a single autocrat. Especially considering the good will and reputation those vessels gained during the clone wars as liberators and defenders. A Venator engenders trust. A imperial class engenders fear. Devotion engenders loyalty. Despotism causes rebellion. Tarken was a clumsy fool. As most evil men are.
In terms of military officers, grand moff tarkin is the emperors right hand man. Tarkin is above all the regional moffs and all regional moffs, grand admirals and governors answer directly to tarkin
@@Lukos0036 I wouldn't say he is incompetent. Overly ambitious yes but not incompetent. He ran the empire (along with mas ameda) while the emperor was nowhere to be seen for almost 20 years. Krennic is Incompetent but not tarkin. There is another word to describe tarkin and that would be arrogant. It's what killed him.
You have a point with retooling from an economic and production standpoint. But to simply dismiss Tarkin and the doctrine as clumsy is a tad shortsighted. The Death Star was the epitome of the doctrine, and had the potential to fulfill the vision it was intended to. So in thats sense, your premise is flawed. The Death Star horrified the galaxy, but it didn't encourage the Rebellion. Its destruction did. If Tarkin's doctrine had come to be fully implemented, a whole fleet of fully operational Death Stars would have probably ensured the military invincibility of the Empire forever and discouraged any overt resistance through sheer terror. The stations were also far from useless. The first Death Star's destruction was a one-in-a-million shot only made possible by the sabotage of disgruntled engineer, but if not for that correctible flaw, it was invincible and capable of wiping out capital ships instantly. The second Death Star was incomplete and its core was exposed to small fighters, but again, it was able to take out capital ships and would have been impervious to attack once completed. If Tarkin's vision had come true, with multiple battle stations lording over the galaxy, it would have simply become impossible for any act of rebellion to succeed durably. Defiance would mean the death of billions, with nothing to show for it. The galaxy would be in the Emperor's grip for many generations at least, and Palpatine did not care for lives, for galactic GDP or anything else other than his own power and darkness, so if he had to blow up even Coruscant to make a point, he would have. No planet would be safe, everyone would keep their heads down and obey. The Rebels had the help of the Force and a good amount of luck on their side, and the Imperials were very arrogant. This is all that saved the galaxy from the technological terror of the Death Stars.
I always thought the with its large wings, three man crew, the shape of the cockpit, wide verity of weapons, and position of the two tail guns always make the ARC-170 look like the WWII Grumman TBM Avenger torpedo bomber to me.
The Tarkin doctrine wasn't the main issue, it was the fact that while the doctrine was useful in many ways, when someone punched through the facade, they didn't have much to show for. Ties were quite intimidating, but not very dangerous, from a fighter perspective. ISDs were powerful, but had glaring weakness once put under the scope.
I love the ARC-170, it's probably one of my favourite strike craft of all time. There is, however, a major flaw with the design: The spacing on the laser cannons. With them so far apart, hitting an enemy fighter would be extremely difficult. The lasers could be moved closer to the hull to compensate, but this might cause some issues with heat dispersal. My solution to this problem would be mounting each laser on a rotating turret, and perhaps redesigning each cannon so that the barrel's elevation can be altered. This would allow for heat dispersal while removing a lot of blind spots, possiblt eliminating the need for the tail gun and allowing it to operate with a smaller crew. The space saved by removing the tail gun could be used for some other purpose, such as mounting a Sesimic Charge dispenser, carrying 5-6 charges. Although expensive, this would add some extra firepower to the craft and would aid it in its role as a bomber. Judging by how devastaing these charges are to asteroids, I'm sure that enemy capital ships would suffer greatly from even a single hit (Munificent-class ships might find the exposed bridge removed after a single hit if aimed correctly). The roles of the crew would have to be changed to allow for the increased complexity of the weapon systems. Assuming the frontal canpoy contains the pilot and the second from the front contaisn the navigator, the pilot could handle flying the craft and operating the proton torpedo tubes, as they could keep their eyes facing forward at all times. The navigator would then be tasked operating the sesimic charge pod and the laser cannons, with their original role being offloaded to the astromech droid (I don't know if this is possible in-universe, I'm just assuming that it can). This "weapons operator" role would be able to aim the craft's guns at will, possibly via a helmet-mounted display and a head-tracking system, along with a seat that allows a full 360 degrees of rotation. Identified targets could be seen "through" the craft (similar to the systems found in modern fighter craft), allowing the weapons operator to freely engage targets with as little hassile as possible. A fixed screen inside the cockpit could be used to aim the sesmic charges when flying over a suitable target. The resources that would have normally been spent on training the tail gunner could instead be spent on training the weapons operator in the new, more comlex roles. Well, what was originally going to be lines turned into this text wall after around 20 minutes of thinking, re-thinking, typing, and correcting what errors I could see. I guess I kinda got carried away, as I love thinking about this kind of stuff. If it turns out that I'm completely wrong, even better - I can always learn from mistakes.
I'd argue the T-65 X-Wing is, but they're both from the same family so it counts. Love any ship that Incom touches. The ARC-170, the various Z-95s, the various X-Wings both canon and legends (imagine the T-70 or T-85 vs the XJ series), the E-Wing. Only design I'm not a fan of is the TwinTail from the Legacy comics.
By far my favorite clone wars era ship. I'm writing a story based in the galactic civil war era, but the main character and his crew use salvaged ARC's because I love the ship so much
0:28 I think it was introduce a year before the end of the war, because the first time we see it in the Clone Wars TV show, was when the clones were still using the Phase 1 armor and the Republic were still using V-19 fighters
Ehh population isnt really a problem for the star wars galaxy since the galaxy itself is so vast and populous. I mean coruscant itself has over a trillion people living there. I get what you're saying because clones are only in the tens of millions by the end of the war but the arc was introduced late into the war so shortage of clone pilots wouldn't really matter
The real problem is that it's 3 clones, replace the engineer with an astromech at the very least, it always feel like a waste of potential for the best soldiers of this era, same for those used as shipcrew and station medics, regular folks will do just as good and would rarely be confonted with actual firefight (unless boarding, but we see how even clone shipmens are useless compared to the soldiers)
@@scorpixel1866 but the arc comes with an astromech already. Also as I said, this fighter was introduced really late so it didn't matter. Plus the 3 crews are trained clones. 3 trained clone troopers plus an astromech is the perfect crew for long range recon assignments
@@scorpixel1866 every source outside of TCW (except the new canon but that's garbage so I don't care) says that Clones only served as soldiers, pilots and combat support staff (such as Battlefield Medics or engineers) and even then only in the more important battles of the war most of the fighting would have actually have been done by various planetary Militias most of the ships would have been crewed by the existing Republic Judiciary Forces but TCW just has the ships crewed with clones because they didn't want to have to create unique models for crew members they just reused the Clone model over and over again
for the republic maning things with clones no problem, the empire also had a shitload of pilots, so no probem it's the rebellion who would risk it way to much loosing 3 pilots
Gotta say, there's something about the 170's looks that just do it for me. Forget efficiency or power, but it just looks so damn cool. Same goes for the Venators tbh.
I’d love to have seen the 170 in Rebel alliance use. But I know it’s extremely crew intensive and hard craft to maintain. The 170 also seems a little under armed for its size. Only one torpedo launcher and two forward laser cannons. You would think it’d mount at least two launchers and four cannons. I love videos like this, keep up the good work.
What wasn't mentioned about ARC's main guns is, that they can correct trajectory of the blaster bolt by few degrees. So despite they might not have as many cannons, they hit more often - the ship relies on precision instead of trigger happy firing in hope of hitting something. And than there's the tail cannon covering rear of the ship, which gives ARC big advantage over other fighters. That's a very good way to arm a fighter, if you ask me.
@@failedexperiment9073 Thank you for the reply....I wouldn't call the 170 a fighter in the traditional sense. Its more like a ME-110 from World War Two. A heavy fighter that's not so good in dogfighting but is more versatile and has longer legs.
It has a small number of weapons, yes, but that doesn't make it lightly-armed. Those laser cannons are massive and who's to say what sort of torpedoes it carries; they could be a much heavier type than the Y-Wing's torpedoes. I imagine that the laser cannons are dual-purpose, capable of popping snubfighters and putting precise shots through the armor on the more vulnerable parts of warships.
@@DecidedlyNinja Their payload is certainly not heavier than the Y-wings. Y-Wings have two launchers with extended magazines for any kind of torpedoes plus ion cannons and taim-bak medium dual laser cannons. Arc-170 is great for clones but it's simply underwhelming compared to Y-Wing.
@Markhas People often act like they're specific, but "laser cannon" and "torpedo launcher" in Star Wars are as vague as "cannon" and "missile launcher" in real life. There's no indication whatsoever that the ARC-170's torpedoes are the same size as the Y-Wings torpedoes, or that the two fighters' guns have the same power level. I think it makes more sense that, rather than the big, expensive ARC-170 being under-armed, it's equipped with a small number of powerful weapons. I'm not even saying it is necessarily better-armed than the Y-Wing overall.
Is it just me, or has your audio quality gotten much more consistent over the last few months or so? It definitely makes your videos sound cleaner and more professional, so good job.
Thus the Tarkin doctrine prematurely retires another very cool fighter design... and inspires rebellion in even more pissed off fighter fangirls and fanboys :)
Mon Mothma: "We must secure this facility. The empire is holding many political prisoners there, some of whom may have crucial information about imperial operations." Pilots: "Uhhh... Ok, I guess we can do that..." Mon Mothma: "Sigh... And we think there's a V-wing in mint condition in one of their hangars." Pilots: "We're on it! Don't worry Mon Mothma, those imps are going to pay for locking up that fighter!"
The ARC-170 is an awesome ship. It simultaneously pays homage to the X-Wing but it is plain to see how it is different and what roles it played. I do think that, at least in the Prequel era, this ship makes a lot of sense that this ship would be among the first starfighters equipped with hyperdrive given the role of long range scout and strike bomber.
Would love to see you do some vids on the fighters used during the Great Galactic War in the Old Republic era between the Sith Empire and the Republic!
You said that it was introduced in the final year of the clone war, yet the B-Roll showed it being used much earlier in the war (for example, battle of Kamino or malastare)
I like the fact that this ship was a “ bridge “ of sorts between the Old Republic and the Empire…really cool. It wasn’t the only ship to do this of course but it’s my favorite ✝️🇺🇸🤙🏻🅰️
The ARC-170 was a versatile and reliable vessel and gave the Republic many victories during the Collins Wars. But instead the Smpire give us the Tie fighter, something that can’t even shoot straight or hit it’s targets. Thanks Tarkin👏👏👏
The thing is the Arc 170 can operate ok as both a fighter and a bomber but the Empire replaces them with both tie Fighters and tie bombers both of which function better than the Arc in their specific role
A little correction, it was the ARC 170 was introduced in 19BBY, but in 21BBY i think because it is seen in the citadel arc where clones wear phase 1 armor
fully pressurized suit yet the helmet is exposed on the lower face ? unless it has a detachable breathing apparatus this seems like a great design flaw.
Tarkin Doctrine: Fear over practicality, it's the reason many ships from the Clone wars were decommissioned. The Venator star destroyer (VSD) being the biggest example, for one: it had a far greater fighter compliment, point defense weapons and it's overall design language was far better than an Imperial star destroyer(ISD)
I love the new trilogy so far, but man...aesthetically, nothing really matches the prequels. Say what you will about Anakin, or the flanderisation of the Jedi, or excessive CGI, or sand, but visually the look of those movies was iconic and immediately recognisable as forerunners of what would come, whereas the new movies may be better made but they're still using X-Wings and TIEs and AT-ATs instead of coming up with their own stuff. And I get that it's deliberate, a metacommentary about repeating the mistakes of the past, and I think it's an idea worth exploring. But there's no design I like as much as the ARC-170 in the new movies.
Dont let people know that you like the sequels. Did u know that it's absolutely unforgivable if you love the sequels and you're not a true fan if u do /s Joking of course. You aren't alone dude
Space combat in sequels sucks, in old movies you could acctualy see reasonable tactics and manouvers in battle, now it's just "pew pew bang bang" flashy plot driven combat defying all logic. And I don't know how can you like TLJ, it wasn't that bad but it's not good either, it's not even ok. I guess some people will like everything *cough* Batman v Superman *cough* Suicide Squad *cough* Fucking Transformers *cough*
Paul C: "Omg Sequel haters are so bad you can't even love the sequels." Also Paul C: " AOTC literally raped Star Wars" Btw AOTC has a higher viewer score than TLJ
@@lancer737 um an imperial star destroyer cant carry 400 ship with sheild. im sure a venator can defeat 4 imperial star destroye if the venator stayed out of the firing rage and deploy all of her fighters
@@lancer737 what just what, republic pilot are trained from birth so they have better traing than the empire counterpart. also the empires fighter are just trash, with few exeption such as tie defender
The only gripe i have with the arc 170 (and many other sci-fi fighters) is that the cannons are on the tips of the wings, yeah it looks good but it decreases accuracy when firing from a longer range. Looking at ww2 fighters typicaly they had guns near the fuselage (yak and bf 109 series), and yes i know that british and american fighters had weapons in the wings but there were just so many of those. point is that it`s more eficient to put them in the nose like the y-wing or tie fighter.
I've watched so many videos on the ARC-170, I swear I could walk up and repair one if it landed in my yard... But, here I go, watching another one... Curse you Spacedock!
Since Kota was a general during the Clone War I wonder where did his Venetor went...hmm, still in my mind I could imagine the Rebellion had a few of Venetors taken from the scarp yards , and launching all 3 Incom made fighters out of its dorsal hanger door..
A redesigned ARC 170 could have featured a redesigned nose to hold two laser cannon (firing through it rather than under it), and a tail-mounted quad laser cannon. Either an upgraded cockpit for a single pilot, or having the co-pilot be responsible for the tail-guns would reduce the crew to two and remove the dorsal bulge. (I've also never understood why an exposed and vulnerable R2 unit is needed when an R2 'brain' could simply be fitted into the ships systems.) The ARC 170 Mk II, escorted by X-wings could have wrecked Imperial Star Destroyers.
yea, Tarkin doctrine yadda yadda blah blah, where were these wonder weapons in the REBEL fleet? They fit their long range fighter-bomber fleet tactic perfectly! And it's not like we don't see clone war era ships being used by the rebels, as the Y-wing was fielded in large numbers by the rebel alliance. I, of course have my theories, too much training for use, too much manpower for 1 ship...ect. but still, these things are awesome and I want to see more of em outside the clone wars!
I love the ARC-170, I think it is one of the coolest fighter bombers
More like just fighter. Everywhere I look says they carry proton torpedoes but it doesn't appear as though they can be fired because there doesn't appear to be a launcher. The hole in the front is just a light and I studied the ship for hours looking for the launcher I swear it doesn't have one anywhere.
Xer the T'vaoan either way and I love it too. I would go for using them any day.
Yes
@@xerthetvaoan it must be hidden like the BTA-NR2's Y-Wing. And I don't think it has an bomber performance. Just because it has proton torpedoes doesn't mean it's a bomber. I really get angry when they call this traditional fighter something that it's not.
More of a Fighter/ Attack (F/A) starship. It had heavy cannons and Proton Torpedoes so it could damage larger ships but also hold it's own against fighters in a furball.
And thus the Empire went from possessing a great set of snubfighter craft to downgrading to the TIE Fighter. Thanks Tarkin Doctrine.
This ship could 've caused fear for that doctrine.
Fuck, the Empire would've caused more fear if they'd gone with designs that focused on being lethal over being scary.
Yup, "let's use crappy fighters to save credits, and we'll build STUPIDLY expensive ships and battle stations with glaringly obvious faults!"
Buy TIE Defenders, scrap the Death Stars, rule the galaxy forever.
@@michaelcoulter1114 Or at least rule until a perpetual wartime economy causes the galaxy to collapse in on itself...
Palpy WAS planning to expand to the unknown regions. Just wanted to cement his rule with the stupidly huge battle stations first and THEN turn his war machine to external threats, once he'd dealt with internal dissidents. So the wartime economy would've worked, since he'd be putting the galaxy into a new war. Directly contradicts his whole "we will bring peace" thing, but hey! That's what Death Stars are for! Stamping out people who call you out on breaking your promises!
"It's engines are able to accelerate the ship at 6,200 (correction, 2,600) G's, allowing reasonable maneuverability for a bomber." I guess it's a good thing they have inertial dampers
6200g, at this point you need inertia dampeners for your inertia dampeners, how can the plasma bolts reach another ship in a straight line when it's target is continually accelerating at these kind of speed?
That's at max acceleration, mind you. During large fleet battles where maneuverability beats out velocity, they'd be flying much slower.
Scorpixel that’s called quantum resonance, because some forms of gas and energy in its purist form have no particle mass they exert supper frictionless motion, meaning whatever speed a thing is they will travel at the same speed, and because plasma weapons use a form of rail gun electro magnets to propel them faster they will always go faster than the ship no matter the speed.
Puny organic beings, they can accelerate at over 60km/s (around 6200g, g being 9.41m/s or something like that?) aka double the speed of a standard Halo Mac PER SECOND but end up dogfighting at close range and literally space grandma speeds due to their inherent inferiority to AI kind
acceleration would be delta v / delta t so the unit is m/(s^2).
I don't remember where I saw this, and I haven't been able to find it since I first saw it, but when the ARC-170 came out for "Revenge of the Sith" I swear I saw a cut away of this ship that showed much of the interior of the craft was hollowed out for crew accommodations. All three of the crew pilots could descend into the cramped belly of the ship and there were fold-away cots, a fresher station (toilet} and minor accommodations such as food for extended recon patrols. The astromech always stayed socketed and thus was almost constantly on watch even when the crew was asleep. Did anyone else ever see this?
Probably one of those Cut-Away books that Dorling Kindersley did
I was actually wondering about this myself but couldn't find the image/ info.
I would have to check older versions of the "The ships of Star Wars" book. The one I have is the most recent and I don't see the cutout for that blueprint section in the ARC-170 section
*aboard an old Venator's flight decks*
"Oh hey kevin, long time no see"
"Border patrol too?"
"yep"
I hate the Tarkin Doctrine.
Was Tarkin even behind the plan for fighter deployments? I would have thought that was more the Raith Sienar doctrine...
Exactly, Matt! The Death Star reminds me of the Yamato. Biggest battleship (along with her sister) in history and she was destroyed by a buncha fighters.
Chris sonofPear I believe tarkin made the vague outlines of making a sweeping wave of cheaper fighters, then it became exaggerated to an extreme by all the ship manufacturers
Thanks, then, Kaeden.
Honestly, it seems like KDY probably would have predicted a longer lifespan for the Venator, since a battle line of ISDs, supported by VSDs and with Venators providing a large fighter screen makes a lot of sense, with all three ships able to provide overlapping broadsides and offering slightly different roles within a combined formation. But that's making some assumptions on my part about the in-service and design dates for the ISD and VSD, which I don't think have been quite canonized yet after Legends was retired under the Mickey Doctrine.
[Insert cool Star Wars ship] was retired from service due to the Tarkin Doctrine. 😞
Pretty much. 😔😒
Never knew Tarkin micromanaged so much. I thought it was a corporate based decision.
They did pave the way to the famous X-Wings and A-Wings of the rebellion/resistance and tie fighter of the empire/first order
Hey the Arquitens class wasn't retired in line with the Tarkin Doctrine.
It was still used by the rebellion, pirates and civilian groups, long after clone war
The V Wings and ARC 170s are some of my favourite Star Wars fighters.
Same.
To me the Venator Star Destroyers should be prime targets for Rebellion highjacking to bolster their fleets & the ARC-170s added to the the Rebellion's small craft armada to make for superior fighting power against the overwhelming number of Tarkin Doctrine TIE craft.
I agree, the Venator would work extremly well with the Rebellion's Tacticts, not to mention that ARC-170s were far from outdated during the time of the Galactic Civil War.
@@DasMaurice yup, a Star Destroyer that actually works as a carrier & has a well rounded arsenal stuffed with a variety of purpose built small craft, a Rebel commander's dream ship.
You mean except for the fact that the Alliance didn't have the supply chains to maintain them, reliable access to sufficient crew numbers or the organisation needed to capture/maintain one?
@@jonashemmingsson7301 there wear shipyards past the Imperial Rim that were Rebellion allies if memory serves.
@@orutakawatenga8820 Which would help how? They can't Crew a Venator, they can't obtain a Venator and the only way they can help maintain a Venator is if the Venator sticks around in the general area, which defeats the point of the stateless strategy
Better be happy about me watching this, Spacedock, I clicked off of porn for this.
Edit: nevermind, this is better.
Wow same....
What? You guys don't jack it to The Arc?
Maxwell Purkey
They’re watching from pornhub
LOL! Doubleplusgood BB!
SpaceDock is Ship Spec porn lol
The Tarkin doctrine= we hate good ships.
Wrong M8 the ISD I is superior to the ISD II because it has light AA the ISD II replaced the AA for more turbolaser batteries plus it's got a crummy hangar 72 fighters in a 1600m ship is just not enough
(Part 2) mon cal shielding is so freaking overpowered and the fighters and bombers of the rebellion are a MILLION times better
@@lancer737 That's why they lost to small rebelion ? That's why smugglers and Rebels can freerly move through Imperial Blocades and escape ISD's ? That's why Imperial starfighters are by far the worst starfighters in whole Star Wars universe ?
Venator’s are the Aircraft Carrier equivalent while the Arc-170 is similar to the F-14
Still my all-time favourite starfighter from the universe. I can't help but love the look of it, even if the massively spread guns are a little silly.
Also, nice use of KotOR II music. Onderon battle theme, takes me back!
It's obvious that 2,600 g acceleration is bonkers, but I decided to do the math on it: 2,600 g = 25,480 m/s^2, and I'll say the ARC-170 needs to maintain that acceleration for 5 minutes, similarly to afterburning fighter jets. That means the total change of velocity, aka delta-V, is 7,644,000 m/s, so if you point your ARC-170 into space and floor it until you run out of propellant, you'll get going to 2.55% of light speed.
What sort of engine do you need to do that? I'll start by guessing the fighter's mass at 6,000 kg filled and 4,000 kg dry, roughly proportional to modern jet fighters; now I can solve the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation, which gives us an average exhaust velocity of 18,852,424 m/s, or 6.29% of light speed. The exhaust velocity in itself isn't actually that crazy; certain fission-fragment and fusion rocket concepts come close, as does The Expanse's Epstein Drive. The trouble is the ARC-170's engines have to spit 6.67 kg of propellant at that extreme velocity per second, resulting in a power requirement of 1.185 petawatts(!).
How much is that? Well, the Rolls-Royce MT30 turboshaft engines used on the Zumwalt-class destroyer can produce 40 megawatts each, and mass 6,500 kg. We can do the job with "only" 29,625,000 of those! If a fancy space reactor can produce that much power, there's another problem. Every engine produces some waste heat, and if just 1% of this engine's waste heat is absorbed by the fighter, it will be destroyed almost instantly; that 1% is enough power to melt 4,000 kg of aluminum in about a fifth of a millisecond. Fly safe!
DecidedlyNinja Implausable numbers strike again!
Or it can get up to that speed quite quickly, somehow? Treated as a 'top speed' somehow, 2,600 G is at least 25.5 km a second.
This post deserves a lot more likes than it has.
mafs
that isnt something from earth soo
The ARC-170 was the first decently sized lego model I ever built and for this reason it will always have a special place in my heart, I love how it looks and they really define the Clone Wars look and feel for me in a single vessel.
Oh, same! Did you have the 05 or 08 version?
It beats the X-Wing as my favorite starfighter, although if only those 4 little S-foils had cannons of their own to decrease the wiggle room an enemy fighter had when being targeted, then the ARC-170 would have beaten the X-Wing by landslide, at least for me. Great video Spacedock!
I actually like the ARC-170 so much its a shame that the writers and the story didn't use these fighters more often. Y-Wings were retired and the Rebels used them. Z-95s were used but this fighter kind of got the boot. The empire used them a little bit but focused on TIEs ultimately. I kind of wished in some ways they had a later variant of this that was used as a long range fighter like the Assault Gunboat that incorporated this design concept and was used by the Empire just to a very small minor degree to reflect the Tarkin Doctrine. I can still the lineage of this design being used by an Empire that relies on short range starfighters and even spook the Rebels are not using ARCs.
I think the ARC-170 looks better than the X-Wing
Seems such a waste of effort to completely retool a ready made fleet just to enact the vague and transparently flawed ideas of a single autocrat. Especially considering the good will and reputation those vessels gained during the clone wars as liberators and defenders. A Venator engenders trust. A imperial class engenders fear. Devotion engenders loyalty. Despotism causes rebellion. Tarken was a clumsy fool. As most evil men are.
In terms of military officers, grand moff tarkin is the emperors right hand man. Tarkin is above all the regional moffs and all regional moffs, grand admirals and governors answer directly to tarkin
Yes and he is an ambitious incompetent autocrat.
@@Lukos0036 I wouldn't say he is incompetent. Overly ambitious yes but not incompetent. He ran the empire (along with mas ameda) while the emperor was nowhere to be seen for almost 20 years. Krennic is Incompetent but not tarkin. There is another word to describe tarkin and that would be arrogant. It's what killed him.
I never thought Tarkin would have to be behind the ENTIRE Imperial military policy myself, just some fairly visible parts of it.
You have a point with retooling from an economic and production standpoint. But to simply dismiss Tarkin and the doctrine as clumsy is a tad shortsighted. The Death Star was the epitome of the doctrine, and had the potential to fulfill the vision it was intended to. So in thats sense, your premise is flawed. The Death Star horrified the galaxy, but it didn't encourage the Rebellion. Its destruction did. If Tarkin's doctrine had come to be fully implemented, a whole fleet of fully operational Death Stars would have probably ensured the military invincibility of the Empire forever and discouraged any overt resistance through sheer terror. The stations were also far from useless. The first Death Star's destruction was a one-in-a-million shot only made possible by the sabotage of disgruntled engineer, but if not for that correctible flaw, it was invincible and capable of wiping out capital ships instantly. The second Death Star was incomplete and its core was exposed to small fighters, but again, it was able to take out capital ships and would have been impervious to attack once completed. If Tarkin's vision had come true, with multiple battle stations lording over the galaxy, it would have simply become impossible for any act of rebellion to succeed durably. Defiance would mean the death of billions, with nothing to show for it. The galaxy would be in the Emperor's grip for many generations at least, and Palpatine did not care for lives, for galactic GDP or anything else other than his own power and darkness, so if he had to blow up even Coruscant to make a point, he would have. No planet would be safe, everyone would keep their heads down and obey. The Rebels had the help of the Force and a good amount of luck on their side, and the Imperials were very arrogant. This is all that saved the galaxy from the technological terror of the Death Stars.
"Introduced in the last year of the Clone Wars"
*shows footage of mid second year battle with v-19s and Delta 7s still in wide use.*
I always thought the with its large wings, three man crew, the shape of the cockpit, wide verity of weapons, and position of the two tail guns always make the ARC-170 look like the WWII Grumman TBM Avenger torpedo bomber to me.
All I can see when I look at an ARC-170 is a P-61 Black Widow
Well Star Wars has always had WWII inspired combat and look.
With a little P-80 and TBF Avenger...
I don't know how I didn't see that before.
CheddarBacon: Absolutely! They're both awesome vehicles.
Same...
The first time we were introduced to the Arc 170 was at the beginning of Star Wars episode 3:Revenge of the Sith during the battle of Corascaunt.
I love these short videos with that much information. Just the right dose of sci-fi I need in my life, after so many tv shows got cancelled!
The ship has left it's mark in Star Wars and it was the prelude to the legendary X-Wing.
The Tarkin doctrine wasn't the main issue, it was the fact that while the doctrine was useful in many ways, when someone punched through the facade, they didn't have much to show for.
Ties were quite intimidating, but not very dangerous, from a fighter perspective.
ISDs were powerful, but had glaring weakness once put under the scope.
One of my favorite fighters in all of Star Wars. The design always reminded me of an old WWI fighter.
Dude you are perfect for these kind of videos.
This is my favorite starfighter/bomber craft in the series. I always liked the idea that it was like an X-Wing, but with more firepower.
I guess youtube added a feature that allows you to see a video before it premiers
I don't thing TRON Lightcycles accelerate that fast and they are massless.
@@DocWolph how is that related to what I said?
I love the ARC-170, it's probably one of my favourite strike craft of all time. There is, however, a major flaw with the design: The spacing on the laser cannons. With them so far apart, hitting an enemy fighter would be extremely difficult. The lasers could be moved closer to the hull to compensate, but this might cause some issues with heat dispersal. My solution to this problem would be mounting each laser on a rotating turret, and perhaps redesigning each cannon so that the barrel's elevation can be altered. This would allow for heat dispersal while removing a lot of blind spots, possiblt eliminating the need for the tail gun and allowing it to operate with a smaller crew. The space saved by removing the tail gun could be used for some other purpose, such as mounting a Sesimic Charge dispenser, carrying 5-6 charges. Although expensive, this would add some extra firepower to the craft and would aid it in its role as a bomber. Judging by how devastaing these charges are to asteroids, I'm sure that enemy capital ships would suffer greatly from even a single hit (Munificent-class ships might find the exposed bridge removed after a single hit if aimed correctly).
The roles of the crew would have to be changed to allow for the increased complexity of the weapon systems. Assuming the frontal canpoy contains the pilot and the second from the front contaisn the navigator, the pilot could handle flying the craft and operating the proton torpedo tubes, as they could keep their eyes facing forward at all times. The navigator would then be tasked operating the sesimic charge pod and the laser cannons, with their original role being offloaded to the astromech droid (I don't know if this is possible in-universe, I'm just assuming that it can). This "weapons operator" role would be able to aim the craft's guns at will, possibly via a helmet-mounted display and a head-tracking system, along with a seat that allows a full 360 degrees of rotation. Identified targets could be seen "through" the craft (similar to the systems found in modern fighter craft), allowing the weapons operator to freely engage targets with as little hassile as possible. A fixed screen inside the cockpit could be used to aim the sesmic charges when flying over a suitable target. The resources that would have normally been spent on training the tail gunner could instead be spent on training the weapons operator in the new, more comlex roles.
Well, what was originally going to be lines turned into this text wall after around 20 minutes of thinking, re-thinking, typing, and correcting what errors I could see. I guess I kinda got carried away, as I love thinking about this kind of stuff. If it turns out that I'm completely wrong, even better - I can always learn from mistakes.
Ah, that's great. Thanks for letting me know
The best starfighter design ever.
I'd argue the T-65 X-Wing is, but they're both from the same family so it counts. Love any ship that Incom touches. The ARC-170, the various Z-95s, the various X-Wings both canon and legends (imagine the T-70 or T-85 vs the XJ series), the E-Wing. Only design I'm not a fan of is the TwinTail from the Legacy comics.
By far my favorite clone wars era ship. I'm writing a story based in the galactic civil war era, but the main character and his crew use salvaged ARC's because I love the ship so much
0:28 I think it was introduce a year before the end of the war, because the first time we see it in the Clone Wars TV show, was when the clones were still using the Phase 1 armor and the Republic were still using V-19 fighters
Three member crew always seemed a bit overkill. Lose one ship, lose three troopers. Other than that I love it.
Ehh population isnt really a problem for the star wars galaxy since the galaxy itself is so vast and populous. I mean coruscant itself has over a trillion people living there.
I get what you're saying because clones are only in the tens of millions by the end of the war but the arc was introduced late into the war so shortage of clone pilots wouldn't really matter
The real problem is that it's 3 clones, replace the engineer with an astromech at the very least, it always feel like a waste of potential for the best soldiers of this era, same for those used as shipcrew and station medics, regular folks will do just as good and would rarely be confonted with actual firefight (unless boarding, but we see how even clone shipmens are useless compared to the soldiers)
@@scorpixel1866 but the arc comes with an astromech already. Also as I said, this fighter was introduced really late so it didn't matter. Plus the 3 crews are trained clones. 3 trained clone troopers plus an astromech is the perfect crew for long range recon assignments
@@scorpixel1866 every source outside of TCW (except the new canon but that's garbage so I don't care) says that Clones only served as soldiers, pilots and combat support staff (such as Battlefield Medics or engineers) and even then only in the more important battles of the war most of the fighting would have actually have been done by various planetary Militias most of the ships would have been crewed by the existing Republic Judiciary Forces but TCW just has the ships crewed with clones because they didn't want to have to create unique models for crew members they just reused the Clone model over and over again
for the republic maning things with clones no problem, the empire also had a shitload of pilots, so no probem it's the rebellion who would risk it way to much loosing 3 pilots
Gotta say, there's something about the 170's looks that just do it for me. Forget efficiency or power, but it just looks so damn cool. Same goes for the Venators tbh.
I’d love to have seen the 170 in Rebel alliance use. But I know it’s extremely crew intensive and hard craft to maintain. The 170 also seems a little under armed for its size. Only one torpedo launcher and two forward laser cannons. You would think it’d mount at least two launchers and four cannons. I love videos like this, keep up the good work.
What wasn't mentioned about ARC's main guns is, that they can correct trajectory of the blaster bolt by few degrees. So despite they might not have as many cannons, they hit more often - the ship relies on precision instead of trigger happy firing in hope of hitting something. And than there's the tail cannon covering rear of the ship, which gives ARC big advantage over other fighters. That's a very good way to arm a fighter, if you ask me.
@@failedexperiment9073 Thank you for the reply....I wouldn't call the 170 a fighter in the traditional sense. Its more like a ME-110 from World War Two. A heavy fighter that's not so good in dogfighting but is more versatile and has longer legs.
It has a small number of weapons, yes, but that doesn't make it lightly-armed. Those laser cannons are massive and who's to say what sort of torpedoes it carries; they could be a much heavier type than the Y-Wing's torpedoes. I imagine that the laser cannons are dual-purpose, capable of popping snubfighters and putting precise shots through the armor on the more vulnerable parts of warships.
@@DecidedlyNinja Their payload is certainly not heavier than the Y-wings. Y-Wings have two launchers with extended magazines for any kind of torpedoes plus ion cannons and taim-bak medium dual laser cannons. Arc-170 is great for clones but it's simply underwhelming compared to Y-Wing.
@Markhas People often act like they're specific, but "laser cannon" and "torpedo launcher" in Star Wars are as vague as "cannon" and "missile launcher" in real life. There's no indication whatsoever that the ARC-170's torpedoes are the same size as the Y-Wings torpedoes, or that the two fighters' guns have the same power level. I think it makes more sense that, rather than the big, expensive ARC-170 being under-armed, it's equipped with a small number of powerful weapons. I'm not even saying it is necessarily better-armed than the Y-Wing overall.
Well Spacedock, you did it. After referencing it time and time again, you've finally featured it. I hope you're happy.
This is by far my favorite star wars strike craft. Hasn't ever gotten enough spotlight.
Is it just me, or has your audio quality gotten much more consistent over the last few months or so? It definitely makes your videos sound cleaner and more professional, so good job.
One of my favorite starships! Reminded me of an old school World War 2 fighter!
Great vid, I was surprised to learn the Arc-170 is considered a fighter-bomber.
Thus the Tarkin doctrine prematurely retires another very cool fighter design... and inspires rebellion in even more pissed off fighter fangirls and fanboys :)
the Rebellion never did hurt much for willing pilots.
Now I'm just imagining Rogue Squadron pilots yelling "BRING BACK VENATORS!" as they TRD-kill yet another ISD.
@@MisterNohbdy An X-Wing with sexy noseart but it's just a picture of a 170.
Mon Mothma: "We must secure this facility. The empire is holding many political prisoners there, some of whom may have crucial information about imperial operations."
Pilots: "Uhhh... Ok, I guess we can do that..."
Mon Mothma: "Sigh... And we think there's a V-wing in mint condition in one of their hangars."
Pilots: "We're on it! Don't worry Mon Mothma, those imps are going to pay for locking up that fighter!"
Anakin: I should help em
Kenobi: NO, they're doing their job so we can do ours....
The ARC-170 is an awesome ship. It simultaneously pays homage to the X-Wing but it is plain to see how it is different and what roles it played. I do think that, at least in the Prequel era, this ship makes a lot of sense that this ship would be among the first starfighters equipped with hyperdrive given the role of long range scout and strike bomber.
Would love to see you do some vids on the fighters used during the Great Galactic War in the Old Republic era between the Sith Empire and the Republic!
It's like X-Wing and Junkers JU87-G2 had baby and it looks awesome!
Great post! Now, how about an analysis of a potential battle between a Cylon Raider and a Confederacy Vulture Droid?
Love the OG BF2 in the intro quote!
Great video, thank you for sharing, could you do one on the Umbaran Star Fighter vs the ARC 170 Star Fighter, thank you
Gotta love how you included the ROTS sequence of the tri droids destroying the ARC 170s in a video glorifying the ARC 170 :p
You said that it was introduced in the final year of the clone war, yet the B-Roll showed it being used much earlier in the war (for example, battle of Kamino or malastare)
Probably a prototype. The Republic loved their prototypes almost as much as the Empire...
Well that's interesting. I can see the video before it's release.
One of my favorite ships in Star Wars.
I like the fact that this ship was a “ bridge “ of sorts between the Old Republic and the Empire…really cool. It wasn’t the only ship to do this of course but it’s my favorite ✝️🇺🇸🤙🏻🅰️
The ARC-170 was a versatile and reliable vessel and gave the Republic many victories during the Collins Wars. But instead the Smpire give us the Tie fighter, something that can’t even shoot straight or hit it’s targets. Thanks Tarkin👏👏👏
The thing is the Arc 170 can operate ok as both a fighter and a bomber but the Empire replaces them with both tie Fighters and tie bombers both of which function better than the Arc in their specific role
Thanks Spacedock the ARC 170 has to be one of the coolest fighters in sci fi
A little correction, it was the ARC 170 was introduced in 19BBY, but in 21BBY i think because it is seen in the citadel arc where clones wear phase 1 armor
Can you make a breakdown of the Confederate Subjugator-class Heavy Cruiser?
fully pressurized suit yet the helmet is exposed on the lower face ? unless it has a detachable breathing apparatus this seems like a great design flaw.
Tarkin Doctrine: Fear over practicality, it's the reason many ships from the Clone wars were decommissioned. The Venator star destroyer (VSD) being the biggest example, for one: it had a far greater fighter compliment, point defense weapons and it's overall design language was far better than an Imperial star destroyer(ISD)
My absolute favorite Sci-Fi combat craft! Well, that and the Y-wing. Yeah, yeah. I know.
Cut from the final video are the audio clips of Spacedock fangasming over this fighter.
Understandable though. :D
Battle breakdowns idea. Battle of Star Forge
By far my favorite starfighter in cannon and the EU
HEATSINKS! Jeez, I've been wondering wth the purpose could be for those.
Aggressive reconnaissance=Aggressive Negotiations with a Starfighter
I love the new trilogy so far, but man...aesthetically, nothing really matches the prequels. Say what you will about Anakin, or the flanderisation of the Jedi, or excessive CGI, or sand, but visually the look of those movies was iconic and immediately recognisable as forerunners of what would come, whereas the new movies may be better made but they're still using X-Wings and TIEs and AT-ATs instead of coming up with their own stuff. And I get that it's deliberate, a metacommentary about repeating the mistakes of the past, and I think it's an idea worth exploring. But there's no design I like as much as the ARC-170 in the new movies.
Dont let people know that you like the sequels. Did u know that it's absolutely unforgivable if you love the sequels and you're not a true fan if u do /s
Joking of course. You aren't alone dude
The prequels had people with vision and a cohesive direction working in on levels. The new trilogy is filled with people without any creativity.
@@douglastaylor4996 you're right. They were so creative that they created attack of the clones. A movie so bad, it raped the franchise
Space combat in sequels sucks, in old movies you could acctualy see reasonable tactics and manouvers in battle, now it's just "pew pew bang bang" flashy plot driven combat defying all logic. And I don't know how can you like TLJ, it wasn't that bad but it's not good either, it's not even ok. I guess some people will like everything *cough* Batman v Superman *cough* Suicide Squad *cough* Fucking Transformers *cough*
Paul C: "Omg Sequel haters are so bad you can't even love the sequels."
Also Paul C: " AOTC literally raped Star Wars"
Btw AOTC has a higher viewer score than TLJ
Probably my favorite starfighter in Star Wars
Space dock: The most credible source for Sci-fi vehicle profiles.
I will say, the ARC-170 reminds me a lot of the P-61 black widow. Especially the crew and cockpit lay out
My favorite Star Wars ship design.
The Tarkin doctrine sucks lol, got rid of some fantastic ships.
yeah agreed, idk what that old guy is thinking
Did Tarkin even have to micromanage fighter deployment? I thought he just handled terror tactics and naval firepower?
@@lancer737 fighter carrying, point defence, felxibility? yeah so much better
@@lancer737 um an imperial star destroyer cant carry 400 ship with sheild. im sure a venator can defeat 4 imperial star destroye if the venator stayed out of the firing rage and deploy all of her fighters
@@lancer737 what just what, republic pilot are trained from birth so they have better traing than the empire counterpart. also the empires fighter are just trash, with few exeption such as tie defender
So Tarkin Decided that it was smart to replace a fast, maneuverable, tough, shielded ship with heavy weapons with the flimsy tie-fighters
The only gripe i have with the arc 170 (and many other sci-fi fighters) is that the cannons are on the tips of the wings, yeah it looks good but it decreases accuracy when firing from a longer range. Looking at ww2 fighters typicaly they had guns near the fuselage (yak and bf 109 series), and yes i know that british and american fighters had weapons in the wings but there were just so many of those. point is that it`s more eficient to put them in the nose like the y-wing or tie fighter.
I've watched so many videos on the ARC-170, I swear I could walk up and repair one if it landed in my yard... But, here I go, watching another one... Curse you Spacedock!
The best starfigher
Since Kota was a general during the Clone War I wonder where did his Venetor went...hmm,
still in my mind I could imagine the Rebellion had a few of Venetors taken from the scarp yards , and launching all 3 Incom made fighters out of its dorsal hanger door..
Great video top work as always.
But.
WHEN IS THE SOJOURN COMING OUT! :D
0:52 Does the ship in the lower right picture have extra cargo space or is that a graphical error? Great video btw.
This is the Fighter of Choice For 3 of my own Fighter Squads.
A redesigned ARC 170 could have featured a redesigned nose to hold two laser cannon (firing through it rather than under it), and a tail-mounted quad laser cannon. Either an upgraded cockpit for a single pilot, or having the co-pilot be responsible for the tail-guns would reduce the crew to two and remove the dorsal bulge. (I've also never understood why an exposed and vulnerable R2 unit is needed when an R2 'brain' could simply be fitted into the ships systems.)
The ARC 170 Mk II, escorted by X-wings could have wrecked Imperial Star Destroyers.
Nice use of the Battle of Dxun music from Knights of the Old Republic 2: Rise of the Sith Lords
I'd love it if you could do a breakdown of the Victory-class Star Destroyer - very cool class of ships that needs more love.
Stealth coating, heavier shields and extended torpedo capacity.
Maybe a "Baby k-wing" kind of design.
You have the best site on RUclips!!!
Favorite republic fighter. 😊
Favorite fighter
My favorite Clone Wars era starfighter.
The f14 of this universe
I always thought it to be the a-10 warthog of star wars.
How to lose an Empire: The Tarkin Doctrine.
One of my favorite ships
One of the coolest fighters in the Republic!
Definitely my favourite star fighter in Star Wars
Combine the ARC-170 with the K-Wing and you got yourself some fearsome Starfighter Squads
favorite looking fighter
4:08 You forgot the Rebels also used these.
It's just that they weren't in as large numbers.
Not surprised at that
yea, Tarkin doctrine yadda yadda blah blah, where were these wonder weapons in the REBEL fleet? They fit their long range fighter-bomber fleet tactic perfectly! And it's not like we don't see clone war era ships being used by the rebels, as the Y-wing was fielded in large numbers by the rebel alliance. I, of course have my theories, too much training for use, too much manpower for 1 ship...ect. but still, these things are awesome and I want to see more of em outside the clone wars!
Spacedock could you cover the history of Larry Niven's Man-Kzin Wars? From his known space universe.
i had the lego set of the ARC 170, it was awesome