You have to love Bill’s humbleness as he is not afraid of showing us how well or poorly he is doing using his own products. He is no muscle bound tactic-cool shooter but he gets the job done.
Great tutorial. I noticed Bill’s trigger finger was coming well off the trigger, almost “slapping “ the trigger.. I’d love to see a tutorial on Bill’s trigger control methodology. Thanks guys, love the training tips!
I was going to make the same comment that even thou he knew he was constant shooting 2 CM 1 head after each shot the finger came off trigger which may have several issues different placement of finger on trigger, having to take up slack again and not shooting from the wall. Do not know if he has a reset.
It’s funny that here he is showing mastery and proficiency with his gun, but people can’t figure out how it’s possible if he not shooting the way our current gamers tell people they have to shoot. He developed his own style and it works. Wish more people would bother to figure out what makes them better rather than insisting on doing whatever is the trendy style du jour.
In a more recent video, he explained that it's because he did a lot of shooting back in the day with the Colt Python, which had a bit of a slow reset. He just didn't change his technique after moving to the 1911.
Based on our tac training, since most shooters are right handed and most folks you encounter in a real-life situation will be right handed and miss low and to their left, our instuctors have us moving to OUR left in movement drills to increase the chance that anyone shooting at us will miss. Just something to consider as this awesome drill evolves.
Yeah, something like 90% of all people are right handed. Whether jerking the trigger or dipping because of lack of recoil management, most untrained shooters when they miss will miss down and to the left (or so we’re taught). Basically, if you go left 9 out of 10 times, you’ll increase your chances your attacker can miss. The other, more “thinky” suggestion from our instructor is to “move to the outside of whatever hand they’re shooting with” assuming they’ll miss to the inside (left handed shooters miss down and to the right). I just train moving left/shooting left while moving.
Love watching Bill shoot, you can tell he is long time da shooter by his finger coming all way forward not just riding the reset I shoot 1911, glock the same as I have fired many hundred of thousands of rounds from da revolvers and great many from da/sa pistols.
During the 4:30 - 4:40 slow mo, can someone remind me why Bill releases his finger from the front of the trigger after every shot? I know he does it for every shot, but it's most easily visible in that segment. His shooting is excellent, but that would seem to me to be a significantly more challenging method of trigger control vs. keeping his finger on the trigger shoe/pad. Questions aside, this was an excellent primer on basic SD handgun proficiency! Thank you Ken Hackathorn and Bill Wilson!
Bill got his start in competitive shooting with Colt Pythons, which have a notoriously long and sluggish trigger reset. After tens of thousands of rounds of bringing his trigger finger that far forward to be sure the Pythons reset, the habit stuck and there wasn't much of a need to change it for semiautos. It's not something he would generally recommend to new shooters.
I will add to Wilson Combat’s statement in a more general context: the training cadre at my old employer used to shoot their trigger fingers like that as well. And do so even now. The argument was they could shoot Glocks, M9’s, 38 revolvers, SIGs with zero change. Since we had mostly police Glocks and DOD M9’s coming through, it was an effective pull. And when revolvers showed up, zero “warm up”. They would state when demoing that they did it that way since, as instructors, they were expected to be able to shoot all kinds of makes or actions of handguns. But it wasn’t necessary for individual students who are qualifying with a specific modern striker gun. Regards, Marky
I'm glad some good guys can afford to shoot ammo today in the era of seven times the cost ammo sales. I sure a frick can't afford to stay proficient. My dogs are going crazy from me dry firing around the house. Bill Wilson aint no joke. Great shooting Sir.
Get a high quality airsoft full blowback replica for cheap, realistic practice. You can get 5,000 of the 6mm plastic rounds for less than $20. The $170 officially licensed glock airsoft handguns are very realistic in feel and action, although the recoil isn't as strong as an actual 9mm round. You don't need an actual gun range, and you can buy biodegradable rounds for rhe same price. You can also join live fire combat events with 10s, 100s, or thousands of other people.
Love your products and videos. I will continue to send my business your way whenever I can I call watching these type of videos micro training. I Never stop trying to learn and improve
On a USMC weapons qual I scored expert on an M16A2E3. An old Gunnery Sgt congratultated me, then said something I will always remember: "If you want to impress me kid, come back and shoot again expert at least three times, including on a windy day and in the rain. Then you can call yourself an expert". Translation - consistency is what counts.
Was explained in an older video and elsewhere in this comment section. Bill had been a big revolver guy in his early days and his trigger technique didn't really change even after transitioning to semi-autos. But judging from his hits, he's doing it right as far as the results are concerned.
Bill has said that this is a holdover from techniques he developed in his earliest days of competitive shooting with revolvers. Sometimes when he's shooting really fast his finger appears to almost come outside the guard. Old habits die hard, but they've worked fine for him.
@@old-veteran not saying it something that should be taught as most don’t hold the gun sufficiently. If you are teaching a new shooter I would try to teach them a smooth trigger press but just the above mentioned shooters just happen to make their technique work for them. Please remember it’s all about the grip for them and we could all learn from that.
Bill was slapping that trigger. Normal trigger discipline doctrine teaches to not break contact with trigger, but obviously I'm not one to tell Bill Wilson he's doing it wrong .
Although he’s slapping, notice his gun hardly moves. This shows he has excellent fundamentals in grip, as well as, index. This is solid advice for any gun owner at any level of skill.
That doctrine comes from bullseye shooters. Most top level USPSA shooters slap the trigger and Bill shot a lot of IPSC back in the day. You can still shoot accurately when slapping the trigger. In contrast, it is very hard to stay in contact with the trigger and shoot fast.
It can be thought of as a one size fits all technique. No matter what gun Bill has in his hand this technique will get the job done with no reset problems.
I hope I can still shoot as well as Bill at his age. With that said, I know the goal is I would have to shoot at the Expert because there is no one shooting back or aiming a firearm at me.
Very good drill. However, almost all such drills ignore the other elements absolutely critical to surviving an armed attack: The other five steps: 1. Avoid areas where threats are higher. 2. Reconnoiter all areas before entry and maintain vigilance upon entry. 3. Position yourself such that you're able to maintain vigilance while in the area. 4. If a potential threat enters the area, strongly consider either leaving or taking cover. 5. If the threat escalates and it's possible to de-escalate, then do so. 6. If de-escalation is not possible, then continue to evaluate leaving vs taking cover. 7. If the threat presents imminent danger to life or limb to self (or others, but only in some areas), determine your best course of action: leave, continue cover, armed response. 8. If an armed response is required, then these drills will have been worth it!
@@viewatyourownrisk he started his shooting competition with a revolver way back when, triggers sucked compared to today. That's where the slap started, but he does it well lol.
Nice!! But taking that finger fully off the trigger will cost time … so imagine if he kept the muzzle pointed at the target/threat and finger prep on the trigger i guarantee you that his time would be quicker which would label this guy more than a pro 👏🏽 🇺🇸 love it
Finger is moving forward farther than needed between shots. And drop the can or what ever you are holding when the shooting starts. Very good recoil management.
"Drop the can" - well, that's not the drill. If you dropped the can, you might as well shoot two-handed. That's not the point. The point is to shoot one-handed while you *can not* use your other hand for some reason.
Interesting Bill actually not only doesn’t ride the trigger to reset but he actually straighten his finger completely outside the trigger assembly between shots. Is that because he shoots a 1911?
NOBODY BUT NOBODY CAN EVER PREDICT OR PREPARE FOR THE SUPREME VARIABLE; ACTIONS TAKEN BY HUMAN BEINGS PERPETRATED TOWARDS ANOTHER! Let's be LUCID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No doubt Bill is a great shooter. But what on Earth would be so valuable that I couldn't drop to get both hands on my pistol when my life is in jeopardy? LEARN TO DROP WHAT IS IN YOUR SUPPORT HAND!!!! ONLY exception would be an infant.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 Your other hand should be on the gun UNLESS whatever you're holding is more valuable than your life. PEROID!!!! Drop your iPhone, brief case, whatever and put both hands on the gun and control the recoil.
The thing is that in most self defense scenarios, people dont think and usually DONT drop whatever is on their off hand, so it's good to learn to shoot one handed
@@NoQuestions4sked No, no, no!!! Far better to learn, or teach, to drop what is in your support hand!!! It is far more important that you address the threat with both hands on your pistol. Remember you life in being threatened AND every bullet that misses, YOU are responsible for it until it stops moving. Having both hands on your pistol reduces the misses.
@harry maboff Well, I doubt I'll fight with a child in my arms, probably run away and get cover; I'm pretty sure riding a motorcycle makes you a moving target and difficult to hit however give you great ability to get away; climbing ropes and ladders, I can't imagine a realistic situation unless you're peeking into the window of a young lady whose Dad has a shot gun. Sorry, drop the cell phones or the milk and eggs and put both hands on the pistol.
Two men who are crucial members of our community right there. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us gents. God's blessings on you both.
I have been subscribed to your channel for a while but I'm loving all of your content the last couple of months keep it up brotha....
You have to love Bill’s humbleness as he is not afraid of showing us how well or poorly he is doing using his own products. He is no muscle bound tactic-cool shooter but he gets the job done.
Shooting with the boss. Bill is a humble man. I appreciate that.
Great tutorial. I noticed Bill’s trigger finger was coming well off the trigger, almost “slapping “ the trigger.. I’d love to see a tutorial on Bill’s trigger control methodology.
Thanks guys, love the training tips!
I was going to make the same comment that even thou he knew he was constant shooting 2 CM 1 head after each shot the finger came off trigger which may have several issues different placement of finger on trigger, having to take up slack again and not shooting from the wall. Do not know if he has a reset.
It’s funny that here he is showing mastery and proficiency with his gun, but people can’t figure out how it’s possible if he not shooting the way our current gamers tell people they have to shoot. He developed his own style and it works. Wish more people would bother to figure out what makes them better rather than insisting on doing whatever is the trendy style du jour.
In a more recent video, he explained that it's because he did a lot of shooting back in the day with the Colt Python, which had a bit of a slow reset. He just didn't change his technique after moving to the 1911.
I love the content being put out by WC, one of my favorite RUclips channels
Fear not the man who knows 10,000 kicks fear the man who practiced one kick 10,000 times. Know your pistol.
The more I watch these videos the more I Like Bill Wilson. This channel has got great content.
I will watch every one of these videos, because of the honesty and humbleness of both of these gentleman. Looking forward to learning more.
Thank you gentlemen for keeping this kind of content coming for those of us who love shooting.
Excellent drill👌..Man how I wish I could meet Ken. Legend of a man.
Absolutely fabulous COLD shooting! Great drill gentleman, thanks for sharing.
Two legends in the gun industry for sure great 👍 videos 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Since Bill is doing the drills, does that make all these Bill Drills? 😜
Based on our tac training, since most shooters are right handed and most folks you encounter in a real-life situation will be right handed and miss low and to their left, our instuctors have us moving to OUR left in movement drills to increase the chance that anyone shooting at us will miss. Just something to consider as this awesome drill evolves.
Interesting.
I thought that was the way to go as well.
Yeah, something like 90% of all people are right handed. Whether jerking the trigger or dipping because of lack of recoil management, most untrained shooters when they miss will miss down and to the left (or so we’re taught). Basically, if you go left 9 out of 10 times, you’ll increase your chances your attacker can miss. The other, more “thinky” suggestion from our instructor is to “move to the outside of whatever hand they’re shooting with” assuming they’ll miss to the inside (left handed shooters miss down and to the right). I just train moving left/shooting left while moving.
Yea, luckily it feels more natural to me to move left.
Love the content of this channel wish I could afford one your combat guns
Love watching Bill shoot, you can tell he is long time da shooter by his finger coming all way forward not just riding the reset I shoot 1911, glock the same as I have fired many hundred of thousands of rounds from da revolvers and great many from da/sa pistols.
X-TAC Elite is his beater range gun. 😆
I treat mine like it’s made of gold.
Helps to own a firearms manufacturing company
During the 4:30 - 4:40 slow mo, can someone remind me why Bill releases his finger from the front of the trigger after every shot? I know he does it for every shot, but it's most easily visible in that segment. His shooting is excellent, but that would seem to me to be a significantly more challenging method of trigger control vs. keeping his finger on the trigger shoe/pad. Questions aside, this was an excellent primer on basic SD handgun proficiency! Thank you Ken Hackathorn and Bill Wilson!
Bill got his start in competitive shooting with Colt Pythons, which have a notoriously long and sluggish trigger reset. After tens of thousands of rounds of bringing his trigger finger that far forward to be sure the Pythons reset, the habit stuck and there wasn't much of a need to change it for semiautos. It's not something he would generally recommend to new shooters.
@@gowilsoncombat Awesome! Thank you for the prompt response, WC! I've been a big fan and following Bill's work since the mid-80s!
He always has, and he is Mr Consistent on that trigger so he is very accurate.
I will add to Wilson Combat’s statement in a more general context: the training cadre at my old employer used to shoot their trigger fingers like that as well. And do so even now.
The argument was they could shoot Glocks, M9’s, 38 revolvers, SIGs with zero change. Since we had mostly police Glocks and DOD M9’s coming through, it was an effective pull.
And when revolvers showed up, zero “warm up”.
They would state when demoing that they did it that way since, as instructors, they were expected to be able to shoot all kinds of makes or actions of handguns. But it wasn’t necessary for individual students who are qualifying with a specific modern striker gun.
Regards,
Marky
I wondered the same thing. Thanks to Wilson Combat for reminding us of Bill's roots in competition revolver shooting.
Awesome, Bill Wilson is a shooter first. That is so cool.
Good shooting, thanks for showing us mortals how it’s done.
Bill Wilson never grew old. He still shoots great.
Excellent training. Thank you for sharing and be safe.
Great shooting as well.
Interesting drill, I'm going to try this.
Thanks
It's been too long since they released a video with Ken in it. Good drill to practice. This could replace the 5x5 as the new IDPA classifier :)
It is motivating to see you and it makes me want to keep learning , thank you
Love your products and channel. Thank you.
I have three drills my gun club uses all the time. I would very much love to get to the ranch to demonstrate them.
@VickersTactical needs to get these two and Super Dave Harrington on his Podcast!
*The best weapons are American. I admire it from the bottom of my heart. Greetings from Russia!*
I'm glad some good guys can afford to shoot ammo today in the era of seven times the cost ammo sales. I sure a frick can't afford to stay proficient. My dogs are going crazy from me dry firing around the house. Bill Wilson aint no joke. Great shooting Sir.
Get a high quality airsoft full blowback replica for cheap, realistic practice. You can get 5,000 of the 6mm plastic rounds for less than $20. The $170 officially licensed glock airsoft handguns are very realistic in feel and action, although the recoil isn't as strong as an actual 9mm round. You don't need an actual gun range, and you can buy biodegradable rounds for rhe same price. You can also join live fire combat events with 10s, 100s, or thousands of other people.
Love your products and videos. I will continue to send my business your way whenever I can I call watching these type of videos micro training. I Never stop trying to learn and improve
Another great drill video 👍 thanks guys 👍
🇺🇸 Mr. Wilson is impressive. That slow mo proves it.
Nice shooting Mr Wilson, really showing the pups how to do it, cheers
Great drill
I seriously want to model my mustache after Mr. Hackathorn's mustache....
On a USMC weapons qual I scored expert on an M16A2E3. An old Gunnery Sgt congratultated me, then said something I will always remember: "If you want to impress me kid, come back and shoot again expert at least three times, including on a windy day and in the rain. Then you can call yourself an expert". Translation - consistency is what counts.
Thanks so much for showing this.
I noticed in the slow motion that Bill took his finger completely off the trigger between shots. Any reason for this?
Cause, Bill can do whatever he wants. Seriously, I notice the the same thing. He still kept it classy and flawless too.
Was explained in an older video and elsewhere in this comment section. Bill had been a big revolver guy in his early days and his trigger technique didn't really change even after transitioning to semi-autos. But judging from his hits, he's doing it right as far as the results are concerned.
Most top USPSA shooters slap the trigger. It isn’t a bad thing. The recommendation to not slap the trigger comes from bullseye shooters.
Great video.
It appears to me that Bill is slapping the trigger but what do I know he can out shoot the shit out of me.
Bill has said that this is a holdover from techniques he developed in his earliest days of competitive shooting with revolvers. Sometimes when he's shooting really fast his finger appears to almost come outside the guard. Old habits die hard, but they've worked fine for him.
Rob Leatham also slaps the trigger and he is a world champion. Slapping the trigger isn’t a bad thing.
If your grip can keep the gun from moving then it doesn't matter if you jerk or slap the trigger. Rob Leatham' philosophy
So how many top level shooters do you see teaching slapping the trigger method ?
@@old-veteran not saying it something that should be taught as most don’t hold the gun sufficiently. If you are teaching a new shooter I would try to teach them a smooth trigger press but just the above mentioned shooters just happen to make their technique work for them. Please remember it’s all about the grip for them and we could all learn from that.
Very nice shooting.
Geezers with guidance. Love it.
Bill was slapping that trigger. Normal trigger discipline doctrine teaches to not break contact with trigger, but obviously I'm not one to tell Bill Wilson he's doing it wrong .
Although he’s slapping, notice his gun hardly moves. This shows he has excellent fundamentals in grip, as well as, index. This is solid advice for any gun owner at any level of skill.
That doctrine comes from bullseye shooters. Most top level USPSA shooters slap the trigger and Bill shot a lot of IPSC back in the day.
You can still shoot accurately when slapping the trigger. In contrast, it is very hard to stay in contact with the trigger and shoot fast.
It can be thought of as a one size fits all technique. No matter what gun Bill has in his hand this technique will get the job done with no reset problems.
I hope I can still shoot as well as Bill at his age. With that said, I know the goal is I would have to shoot at the Expert because there is no one shooting back or aiming a firearm at me.
Are these drills posted somewhere where then can be downloaded or printed out?
Good. I like a lot
Very good drill. However, almost all such drills ignore the other elements absolutely critical to surviving an armed attack: The other five steps:
1. Avoid areas where threats are higher.
2. Reconnoiter all areas before entry and maintain vigilance upon entry.
3. Position yourself such that you're able to maintain vigilance while in the area.
4. If a potential threat enters the area, strongly consider either leaving or taking cover.
5. If the threat escalates and it's possible to de-escalate, then do so.
6. If de-escalation is not possible, then continue to evaluate leaving vs taking cover.
7. If the threat presents imminent danger to life or limb to self (or others, but only in some areas), determine your best course of action: leave, continue cover, armed response.
8. If an armed response is required, then these drills will have been worth it!
Honest question, why was Bill coming entirely off the trigger between shots in the same string?
He always has, but he is Mr Consistent on that trigger so he has very accurate.
@@elkbow absolutely, it's something I haven't seen before. My intention is not to judge or call him out.
Rather, I was hoping to learn something.
@@viewatyourownrisk he started his shooting competition with a revolver way back when, triggers sucked compared to today. That's where the slap started, but he does it well lol.
@@elkbow That makes a lot of sense. Revolvers have a trigger reset distance measured in feet.
@@viewatyourownrisk lol, true that
Nice!! But taking that finger fully off the trigger will cost time … so imagine if he kept the muzzle pointed at the target/threat and finger prep on the trigger i guarantee you that his time would be quicker which would label this guy more than a pro 👏🏽 🇺🇸 love it
What's the distance from targets when you're engaging them?
Lol Damn when was that shot timer made lol when the 1st cell phones were? 😆
The only gun control I'm interested in
Great! Thanks!!!
On stage 3/4, I load 3 rounds in both mags and do a mag change between the targets. Still make expert time.
is lifting the trigger finger a technique?
Thnxs 4 sharing 🇺🇸
Sick grouping man, that slow mo was dope, needed more.
Good stuff.
Finger is moving forward farther than needed between shots. And drop the can or what ever you are holding when the shooting starts. Very good recoil management.
You're telling Bill Wilson how to shoot?
LMAO, what hubris!
"Drop the can" - well, that's not the drill. If you dropped the can, you might as well shoot two-handed. That's not the point. The point is to shoot one-handed while you *can not* use your other hand for some reason.
@@jyc2201 lol, yea, I know.
What kind of shot timer is that and where can I get one?
Interesting Bill actually not only doesn’t ride the trigger to reset but he actually straighten his finger completely outside the trigger assembly between shots. Is that because he shoots a 1911?
like the drill.
Shooting cold is how it will be in a real life situation.
What caliber was the X-TAC Elite you used?
9mm
Sept 3, 2020, was #18 in this series. This should be #21
Correct.
@@gowilsoncombat I watch every one of these. They are top-notch.
I would just drop everything instead of trying to hold on to it while shooting.
Cool
Not positive but it looks like Ken had his spare mags in backwards in the pouch.
Interesting trigger manipulation, almost like trigger slap
Any body else know that before he started building pistols Bill Wilson was a watchmaker.
Why wouldn't you train to drop the thing in your weak hand?
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Thanks for posting
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OMG! He used his thumb on the slide lock. 😱
I wonder why Mr Bill lets his finger off the trigger like that. Im sure he is doing it on purpose but Id just like to know why
I find it interesting that he doesn't use his reset on the trigger.
Remarkable Mr. Wilson I'd go into battle with you on my side anytime.
This drill was designed for.....? Shooting at the range?
Mr. Wilson would probably have shot even better if he had been shooting one of his Supergrades.
He is so heavy slapping the trigger, i suffer in my little toe watching this.
How about a drill where you drop whatever is in your support hand so you can use it? Any old crummy cell phone could work lol
NOBODY BUT NOBODY CAN EVER PREDICT OR PREPARE FOR THE SUPREME VARIABLE; ACTIONS TAKEN BY HUMAN BEINGS PERPETRATED TOWARDS ANOTHER! Let's be LUCID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I honestly thought he would be carrying a colt or a kimber. LOL
Why, he owns Wilson Combat?
First baby!!
Actually I was lol the mustache comment
No doubt Bill is a great shooter. But what on Earth would be so valuable that I couldn't drop to get both hands on my pistol when my life is in jeopardy?
LEARN TO DROP WHAT IS IN YOUR SUPPORT HAND!!!! ONLY exception would be an infant.
It's not about holding a briefcase. It's about learning how to shoot one-handed while your other hand is occupied with *something*
@@maximilianmustermann5763 Your other hand should be on the gun UNLESS whatever you're holding is more valuable than your life. PEROID!!!! Drop your iPhone, brief case, whatever and put both hands on the gun and control the recoil.
The thing is that in most self defense scenarios, people dont think and usually DONT drop whatever is on their off hand, so it's good to learn to shoot one handed
@@NoQuestions4sked No, no, no!!! Far better to learn, or teach, to drop what is in your support hand!!! It is far more important that you address the threat with both hands on your pistol. Remember you life in being threatened AND every bullet that misses, YOU are responsible for it until it stops moving. Having both hands on your pistol reduces the misses.
@harry maboff Well, I doubt I'll fight with a child in my arms, probably run away and get cover; I'm pretty sure riding a motorcycle makes you a moving target and difficult to hit however give you great ability to get away; climbing ropes and ladders, I can't imagine a realistic situation unless you're peeking into the window of a young lady whose Dad has a shot gun.
Sorry, drop the cell phones or the milk and eggs and put both hands on the pistol.
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