Installed maybe 100 of the Easee EV chargers myself in Norway. Lovely charger. East to install and very little issues with it compared to other chargers i have installed in the past. Cant wait to see what Cory thinks of it :D
As a DIY homeowner in America, the one downside I've found of hiring proper tradespeople is that for some reason they tend to dislike reading the instructions first. I often read the instructions online before I even buy an item - and the quality of the instructions often reflects the quality of the product.
you forgot to mention, Easee has ‘back entry’ so when possible, garage walls for example, our fitters will drill through and rear cable the backplate…looks really cool , and no ugly cable!!!
I have the Bitcheck's "big brother", the Toolcheck Plus. It's my favourite compact bits/mini ratchet/screwdriver set by far, the only weak point so far being the sliding cover holding the ratchet in place: It can easily break should you accidentally drop it. Wera customer service was great though - I contacted them hoping to be able to buy a new cover, but instead they sent me not only the complete Toolcheck frame, but also the Toolcheck Plus frame for free... so then I had to go out and buy the 813 mini screwdriver handle so I could convert my Toolcheck to a Toolcheck Plus ;-)
The blanking plate is a great idea for new build houses - round here the planners are currently satisfied if they install an outdoor 3 pin socket “to enable easier future installation” of a charger which is farcical. This would be far better, pre-cabled with the appropriate size cable etc but without the cost of supplying the whole thing.
The board you fitted is called OSB, and is used in many construction works. It is normally designed for inside use. I think it needs painting or staining, and would look nice in the same green as the fence or front door. Great video.
You forgot the most important feature for installing them in groups: Once you configure one, you can pop it out of the baseplate and pop the others in one after the other---they will read the stored configuration from the baseplate. Quite important if you have 101 of these and don't want to stand there for hours and hours with your phone...
Hi. I got one of the first batch of chargers and it has been mounted outside for a while. Never had any problem with water. Even when the cable was coming in from the top. Paid about 457£ for it in Norway. Now it’s mounted inside the garage.
Hi Jordan, The wood is oriented strand board (OSB) and it needs protecting with wood stain, or it will peel apart in no time atoll. That wall looks like swiss cheese!
The charger makes its own wifi point, that you can log on with your cell and make adjustments to the charging speed and so on. you can also put in an phone card to supply the charger with is own 4g connection, but I have never tried that.
Even if these lose connection to the servier they have a fall-back system that allows the system to charge your car, if it's being used to forward charging info to a 3rd party supplier (for charging a work vehicle paid by company for example) that data is stored locally and uploaded back to the server once back online.
@@artisanelectrics the plywood board that is too big you should be marked and cut it on the size of the charging case with a skillsaw now looks like unprofessional work
@@emilgemc8913 No, the backing shouldn't be sized to the charger that you install. The whole point is that over the next 100 years there may be 10 different chargers of different sizes installed in the same spot. The backing should be reasonably sized to accommodate most charger form factors. Perhaps, just as electricians don't like carpenters doing electrical work, one should consult a carpenter to design a good backing using material that will hold up well in the weather and look nice. Then the carpenter could either make up a batch or advise on what materials to keep on hand to make as needed. One could even paint the backing for the next day's job the night before with an appropriate color.
Due to fit 2 Easee Charge and 2 Easee Ready units at a local school. Really excited to get my hands on these and finding out how easy to install they really are. Great video as always 👍
Absolutely amazing charger this, I am an electrician in Norway and we just use this charger. The home version is even easier to install as you don't need site key or anything. Literally done in 10 seconds after having connected it.
Had one for almost a year, not had a problem so far. Some of the smart features you don't mention is that with the use of RFID we can split costs. I have an RFID card for my work van (Work installed via local fuel supplier who also supply fuel cards for our non-electric fleet). So long as I start the charger with the RFID registered to that account, all charging for that is recorded, documented and ends up back with work, who then refund the electricity costs for charging their van. If we have guests who need a charge, I can start with the app, and that shows a personal use. We're looking at a 2nd car in a while, which will be electric, so as the cablings already there we can simply add a 2nd unit, and let them figure it out. Being 3-phase ready also means it's 22KW capable out the box, as long as you have a 3-phase supply. Ours is cabled as 1 phase, but just upgraded house feed to 3 phase (1x50A doesn't go far with elec heating, cooking, and a van to charge, domestic gas is not normal here in Norway, at least outside Oslo) , and we have that option later should we end up with a vehicle supporting 3-phase charge (not many do yet). Sorry, your Norwgian accent was poor . . says the Scotsman in Norway. ;)
Great video as usual Jordan! Been looking forward for your review and install of the Easee, this as I have had one of them for about year here in Sweden and been very happy with it and planning to get another one for the loadbalancing once we get another plug-in vehicle. Really like that I can lock and leave my type2 cable at home.
Also, you can use the Easee Installers apps to create sites directly in the app. This allows you to use your phones RFID writer to write all configs directly to the white RFID tag in the wall mount.
This charger is perfect for domestic use as well, but it's not really designed for the UK market, and your regulations( Hence the lacking PEN fault detection). To get the most out of this charger you need to link it aginst the Tibber smart app( Tibber is a electricity provider on the Norwegian market) and install the Tibber Pulse( monitoring device for domestic installations). That way you charge during the periods of the day when electricity is cheap, and the pulse and Easee charger communicates and makes sure that your main fuse is not overloaded :)
15.06 so basically if I just buy a charger I can drive around and look for blank installs and just pop the cover off and get a free charge! Thanks for the heads up!
Would be easy to have a spare unit on site for a commercial install. So if a charger goes down you can just swap it out easily until you can get it looked at.
@@artisanelectrics Our work installed about 50 of these for our fleet of nissan E-NV200s we use, so far no issues anywhere (other than a few cases with limited supply to the house meaning using the timer functions were essential, as cooking + charging together tripped the standard 50A main fuse in the house, simply using the app to drop the max feed to the van also reduces that issue, and still plenty time for overnight charging.
Finally a test of easee, fun to watch. With mine, there was a small padlock included that you can mount under the lid. I do not have wifi so I use the built-in mobile broadband that is in the box at no extra cost. In Sweden, this is one of the cheapest chargers, but still the one with perhaps the most features built-in. Very satisfied after one year of use.
Coming from east coast of Canada I'm cringing at using laminated strand board outside. Get some pressure treated wood for this so it doesn't rot / attract insects. But otherwise that looks like a smart little compact unit. You could even likely custom 3d print faceplates for it too.
I'm an IT guy but certainly not an electrician this would be a fairly easy install for me. I think the average customer would have problems installing this one vs the other ones you've installed. I dow however like the RFID feature. I wear a RDID ring and this would be great and would prevent a neighbor from trying to use this when I'm not home. Here's a suggestion for the wood you installed. To me this looks like interior wood so consider replacing it with pressure treated lumber later. If you're going to use it then buy a really good exterior sealant and/or paint. Wood like that will breakdown over time and with the type of environment you have over there it will deteriorate fast.
Is it OK to leave a home charger on the wall outside in the open like that? Rain won't mess it up? Or do you need to get a special one that is designed to be outside rather than inside?
Thanks Jordan for another interesting video. I mush prefer a tethered charger my self. Also calling it a robot is a bit misleading ha ha was expecting it to do all the work for you
Hi Jordan l’m thinking of getting one of these Easse Chargers, been recommended by an EVO Installer, you stated that you would provide an update in a few weeks, what’s your verdiit?
Just had one of these fitted yesterday, as they're being installed for free for electric Motability car owners, and can confirm that it has PEN fault detection now, as it threw this error about 2 hours after being installed. Has been resolved now though :-)
Apart from that retaining screw, is there anything to stop anyone pinching the charger? It probably wouldn’t be much use without the ability to register it, but still a pain and cost if it is stolen.
Very useful information here. I'm looking at the lower-spec 'home' model as part of my checks before taking the EV plunge. Have you ever done an install where the unit itself is in the garage and the Type 2 port is actually split/spurred into 2 wires ... where one wire goes to one side of the garage (and is then fed through the wall to an external-wall-mounted Type 2 'dock/port') and the other wire goes to the opposite side of the garage (and is then fed through the wall to another external-wall-mounted Type 2 'dock/port')? I can't garage a car (garage is way too small) but I'd like the wall unit inside - and have the ability to plug in a Type 2 cable from the outside - from either side of the garage using one or the other wall mounted ports - without needing to go into the garage. I'd just enable the charge via an app (or the car planner/some other way).
I'm using this charger to charge my Tesla Model S with 230V 3fas 32A, main fuse 50A, charger fuse 40A and 10mm2 cable. All with in the 20% safety spec. Topping out at 8.6kW with 243V.
I also have three of those currently we only have one car a Zoe, three-phase 32A 400V so 22kW charging... 50A three-phase main fuses that are basically unused to anything else. These Easee chargers are the best. Or at least gives the "most bang for the buck".
The backboard looked like OBS / Sterling Board. From my experience even with the edges sealed water will still get into it and it will start to swell, delaminate and generally look a mess. Perhaps a plastic backboard would have been a better option
When you install multiple units, how do the communicate for load sharing? Do they use their own local network or do you need to link them with a data cable?
very nice, looks sleek and indeed easy in many ways ... however I'm puzzled, why is this called a "robot", it has absolutely nothing "robotic" about it :) Great video, great channel, keep it up!
Did RUclips finally bully you into not drilling more holes in the wall? 😂 Missed a chance for a click bait title here - "RUclips makes Jordan get wood" 😂 😂
Also instead of that bit of wood(looks abit naff) could you install that metal plate sheet with holes in( like the stuff you hang tools on?) and then bolt the different charges to that? save you drilling holes in wall
While the rain was falling you could have prepared the OSB wood...rounding the corners and sealing (or painting) it...especially the edges...would have been good. It would make it look better and have the added benefit of keeping future water ingress from happening.
Honestly, I much preferred the Hypervolt unit for a domestic wall box Jordan. Glad to see you have fitted a backer board - at last !. An "off cut" of marine ply would be a better longer term option. Will John returning to team - "Nice".
Have to install pen fault detection matt e device with this, try not lose that tool to remove the cover, dont know how you would loop out of the device with two cables when you want to run the cabling bottom entry. I think installing a zappi is easier imo.
7:33 sorry but to say this as a pro electrician is a total no go. how does the customer test if pen fault protection runs properly after mountign the berry on the plate?
Even being generous and say you charging at 8 amps for you to charge from 20% to 80% would take over 17 hours. I don’t think your tenants would be very happy to share charging at currents that low. However 21 amps is a respectable charge rate giving you recharge times around 6 hours per vehicle you might get both your vehicles charged overnight. Sounds perfect for your situation. I think this product in a tenant share situation, is only good enough to get your vehicle across town to the nearest Supercharger. Did you know that the regenerative braking can actually recharge your Tesla. If you can convince someone to tow your Tesla for about 25 miles at 70 m/hr. Of course the vehicle doing the towing will only be getting about 5 miles to the gallon. Great presentation, you made feel right at home. Happy charging! HEY I see your installing a “Massive Solar “ array, I hope it is yours you need one.
Standing off the OSB board would make it so that it could be rear entry and then not worry about screws / lags getting into the brick. Easy stand offs are small 1" PVC pipe cuts run screw thru them. Some nice epoxy paint would make the OSB last a lot longer! OSB doesn't do good with water. I am assuming the Mrs of the house won't like the big chunk of wood on the side of 'her' house! 😁😁👍
What security features does it have? Once its been set up does that stop someone else from using it? I’d be paranoid that someone could just buy a backplate and take my robot!
probs nothing stopping anyone takining it just like nest doorbells. the main deterrent is the fact they become paperweights if stolen due to serial numbers and account pairing. its like stealing an iphone
As Alitrix says, without your login info, or RFID chip, you can't start the charger. Also ours came with a small padlock to lock the front facia to the baseplate. Not high-security, but stops someone just popping it off and walking off on way home from pub. (Reminds me, must make sure I know where that key is) If someone tries to simply unplug from your car to charge theirs, as soo as the cable disconnects, it turns off, so needs re-started via app or RFID.
Just wondering. It's easy to mount. But also "easy to dismount"? It seems so. Just put screwdriver underneath.. and click.. so when it's mounted on place more or less open... No risk it will be gone when you wake up in the morning?
What's your recommendation now? Hypervolt or Easee? I think the hardware of the Easee looks better as does features like load balancing between devices....but their customer support is almost non existent - particularly stark when compared to Hypervolt.
@@artisanelectrics What load balancing solution did you use when installing two Hypervolts in that residential property? Hypervolt say they will support load balancing in a future update (not sure if they’ll use Bluetooth or cloud to coordinate).
12:45 no water in there, that isn't the IP rated part of the unit, as you can see your hand through the vents. The lock in piece is the only IP rated part.
Maybe you could take off the charger and put on the blanking plate when you're away from home for weeks to prevent unauthorised usage, unless you have locking at the source or app.
I have a series 1 Leaf with the smaller battery but with the optional 6Kw charger. Since I bought it I have used the 13 a/h socket in the garage. It roughly charges about 10% capacity per hour. I have thought about having a 7Kw wall charger fitted to my house but all the ones I see reviewed seem so complicated. I am of the older generation, I don't have a smart phone even. Why can't I buy a simple to use wall charger with no app needed which I can just plug into without a wi-fi cloud set up. Is there such model out there for us "ludites"?
So I think the reason is that if you want a discount front the government, the device has to be passed as a smart device, as in internet connected. So I'd suggest most companies go this way when designing it.
I am surprised they don't use a proper cable gland which compresses on the cable give the sensitivity of the unit . The rubber nibble seems abit Heath Robinson how can you accurately cut that to wire dimeter??
For the nipple type grommets, drop it in a cup of boiling water while your drinking you tea, then a bit of silicone spray on the cable and it should stretch and slide over and form a nice tight perfect seal. 👍
That awkward moment when you realise you should've read the instructions before you started the install... lol. Still, makes for good entertainment. Meanwhile - serious point - I don't have an EV at the moment but may consider one in the near future and so have been reading some info online regarding home charge points. Some of which says that new rules dictate that you're supposed to have an earth rod (TT) installed in addition to PME?? Just so you understand, I'm not an electrician and would obviously be getting a professional install, but I'm interested in this issue none the less. I'm in Scotland, and have TN-C-S on my incoming mains. If I was having a home charger installed, it would be directly on an outside wall of the house. The consumer unit is on the same wall inside, so esentially back to back with the charger.
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I am a certified Easee installer in Norway and we love these. Have one myself for my EGolf too.
Installed maybe 100 of the Easee EV chargers myself in Norway. Lovely charger. East to install and very little issues with it compared to other chargers i have installed in the past. Cant wait to see what Cory thinks of it :D
Did you reuse any of the old holes for the board, or did 4 more holes appear.
Looks like he might have been able to re use 2 holes and the bottom on is the new one.
Unless the bottom one was a cable clip hole already.
As a DIY homeowner in America, the one downside I've found of hiring proper tradespeople is that for some reason they tend to dislike reading the instructions first. I often read the instructions online before I even buy an item - and the quality of the instructions often reflects the quality of the product.
you forgot to mention, Easee has ‘back entry’ so when possible, garage walls for example, our fitters will drill through and rear cable the backplate…looks really cool , and no ugly cable!!!
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@artisanelectrics do you do RAMS & METHOD STATEMENTS FOR EACH JOB YOU CARRY OUT ??
I have the Bitcheck's "big brother", the Toolcheck Plus. It's my favourite compact bits/mini ratchet/screwdriver set by far, the only weak point so far being the sliding cover holding the ratchet in place: It can easily break should you accidentally drop it. Wera customer service was great though - I contacted them hoping to be able to buy a new cover, but instead they sent me not only the complete Toolcheck frame, but also the Toolcheck Plus frame for free... so then I had to go out and buy the 813 mini screwdriver handle so I could convert my Toolcheck to a Toolcheck Plus ;-)
The blanking plate is a great idea for new build houses - round here the planners are currently satisfied if they install an outdoor 3 pin socket “to enable easier future installation” of a charger which is farcical. This would be far better, pre-cabled with the appropriate size cable etc but without the cost of supplying the whole thing.
The board you fitted is called OSB, and is used in many construction works. It is normally designed for inside use. I think it needs painting or staining, and would look nice in the same green as the fence or front door. Great video.
It's most certainly NOT marine plywood !
You forgot the most important feature for installing them in groups: Once you configure one, you can pop it out of the baseplate and pop the others in one after the other---they will read the stored configuration from the baseplate. Quite important if you have 101 of these and don't want to stand there for hours and hours with your phone...
The wood looked like OSB not marine ply - you will need to seal the ends
Paint it too! Looks a bit 🤮 at the moment!
Hi. I got one of the first batch of chargers and it has been mounted outside for a while. Never had any problem with water. Even when the cable was coming in from the top. Paid about 457£ for it in Norway. Now it’s mounted inside the garage.
Hi Jordan, The wood is oriented strand board (OSB) and it needs protecting with wood stain, or it will peel apart in no time atoll.
That wall looks like swiss cheese!
I was pleased you kept up the Swiss cheese tradition and drilled new holes for the the board rather than recycling a few of the 150 existing holes :-)
Want to see the robot function, how does it plug itself in?
With all these Cloud connected chargers, it would be a useful test to see how they function if the Internet connection is unavaliable.
The charger makes its own wifi point, that you can log on with your cell and make adjustments to the charging speed and so on. you can also put in an phone card to supply the charger with is own 4g connection, but I have never tried that.
Allso if you pair it with tibber you could set your offline charging speed in A.
The Easee units come with an inbuilt e-sim, comms are excellent on these.
Even if these lose connection to the servier they have a fall-back system that allows the system to charge your car, if it's being used to forward charging info to a 3rd party supplier (for charging a work vehicle paid by company for example) that data is stored locally and uploaded back to the server once back online.
5.0Nm torque for the mains terminals on an Easee charger 💪
Thanks for the info!
Funny thing it's written inside the charger beside the terminals.
@@artisanelectrics do you do RAMS & METHOD STATEMENTS FOR EACH JOB YOU CARRY OUT ??
I've been only installing easee chargers the last two years. They are brilliant. Especially paired with a good power provider.
As a sparky from norway, i love theese chargers! They are really good!
I have a Easee charger. Works great with smart charging from my power company Tibber here in Norway .
0:50 Can you tell the homeowner to turn their olive tree occasionally? It's leaning towards the sun.
Its my house so yes I can
@@artisanelectrics the plywood board that is too big you should be marked and cut it on the size of the charging case with a skillsaw now looks like unprofessional work
@@emilgemc8913 It's OSB not Ply and OSB ALWAYS looks shit anyway.
@@emilgemc8913 he doesn’t care if it looks unprofessional it’s his house , and he’s more bothered about ruining the wall than the length of the wood
@@emilgemc8913 No, the backing shouldn't be sized to the charger that you install. The whole point is that over the next 100 years there may be 10 different chargers of different sizes installed in the same spot. The backing should be reasonably sized to accommodate most charger form factors. Perhaps, just as electricians don't like carpenters doing electrical work, one should consult a carpenter to design a good backing using material that will hold up well in the weather and look nice. Then the carpenter could either make up a batch or advise on what materials to keep on hand to make as needed. One could even paint the backing for the next day's job the night before with an appropriate color.
Due to fit 2 Easee Charge and 2 Easee Ready units at a local school. Really excited to get my hands on these and finding out how easy to install they really are. Great video as always 👍
Absolutely amazing charger this, I am an electrician in Norway and we just use this charger. The home version is even easier to install as you don't need site key or anything. Literally done in 10 seconds after having connected it.
Had one for almost a year, not had a problem so far. Some of the smart features you don't mention is that with the use of RFID we can split costs. I have an RFID card for my work van (Work installed via local fuel supplier who also supply fuel cards for our non-electric fleet). So long as I start the charger with the RFID registered to that account, all charging for that is recorded, documented and ends up back with work, who then refund the electricity costs for charging their van. If we have guests who need a charge, I can start with the app, and that shows a personal use.
We're looking at a 2nd car in a while, which will be electric, so as the cablings already there we can simply add a 2nd unit, and let them figure it out. Being 3-phase ready also means it's 22KW capable out the box, as long as you have a 3-phase supply. Ours is cabled as 1 phase, but just upgraded house feed to 3 phase (1x50A doesn't go far with elec heating, cooking, and a van to charge, domestic gas is not normal here in Norway, at least outside Oslo) , and we have that option later should we end up with a vehicle supporting 3-phase charge (not many do yet).
Sorry, your Norwgian accent was poor . . says the Scotsman in Norway. ;)
Great video as usual Jordan! Been looking forward for your review and install of the Easee, this as I have had one of them for about year here in Sweden and been very happy with it and planning to get another one for the loadbalancing once we get another plug-in vehicle. Really like that I can lock and leave my type2 cable at home.
So many charger tests - you need to start a league table and give them a score.
Also, you can use the Easee Installers apps to create sites directly in the app. This allows you to use your phones RFID writer to write all configs directly to the white RFID tag in the wall mount.
Wish you were in North America. It’s often rare to see someone take pride in their work as you do.
Thanks a lot
This charger is perfect for domestic use as well, but it's not really designed for the UK market, and your regulations( Hence the lacking PEN fault detection). To get the most out of this charger you need to link it aginst the Tibber smart app( Tibber is a electricity provider on the Norwegian market) and install the Tibber Pulse( monitoring device for domestic installations). That way you charge during the periods of the day when electricity is cheap, and the pulse and Easee charger communicates and makes sure that your main fuse is not overloaded :)
Thanks for sharing
The next charger for you to install and test have to be the zaptec charger, which is another charger made in Norway... :-)
15.06 so basically if I just buy a charger I can drive around and look for blank installs and just pop the cover off and get a free charge!
Thanks for the heads up!
Only if they are stupid enough to leave the system like that and live.
@@horatiupogoreanu6422 Yes, but he has the robot and the code.
Would be easy to have a spare unit on site for a commercial install. So if a charger goes down you can just swap it out easily until you can get it looked at.
Yeah thats a good point
@@artisanelectrics Our work installed about 50 of these for our fleet of nissan E-NV200s we use, so far no issues anywhere (other than a few cases with limited supply to the house meaning using the timer functions were essential, as cooking + charging together tripped the standard 50A main fuse in the house, simply using the app to drop the max feed to the van also reduces that issue, and still plenty time for overnight charging.
Makes a change you usually find people dumping their rubbish in other people's skips not removing it!! Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Loving the mask ;) At least the weather held off for most of it! Have a good weekend.
Thanks, you too!
Finally a test of easee, fun to watch. With mine, there was a small padlock included that you can mount under the lid. I do not have wifi so I use the built-in mobile broadband that is in the box at no extra cost. In Sweden, this is one of the cheapest chargers, but still the one with perhaps the most features built-in. Very satisfied after one year of use.
Coming from east coast of Canada I'm cringing at using laminated strand board outside. Get some pressure treated wood for this so it doesn't rot / attract insects. But otherwise that looks like a smart little compact unit. You could even likely custom 3d print faceplates for it too.
You should "paint" your backboard with some Yacht Varnish, that should stop it from absorbing water.
Can these chargers be installed on a looped supply then or does that still need to be un-looped?
Thanks again for for sharing your information !
I like the idea of the baseplate. If the company releases a better version in the next few years you can just pop the old one off and a new one on.
As soon as it has pen fault detection built in it will be a good option going forward.
Sounds like a good system.
Do "guests" need to install the app to charge? Or is unlocking with RFID enough?
I'm an IT guy but certainly not an electrician this would be a fairly easy install for me. I think the average customer would have problems installing this one vs the other ones you've installed. I dow however like the RFID feature. I wear a RDID ring and this would be great and would prevent a neighbor from trying to use this when I'm not home.
Here's a suggestion for the wood you installed. To me this looks like interior wood so consider replacing it with pressure treated lumber later. If you're going to use it then buy a really good exterior sealant and/or paint. Wood like that will breakdown over time and with the type of environment you have over there it will deteriorate fast.
Basic question : Could you put in 3 units on a single phase with 100amp main fuse ?
wood is OSB or orientated strand board will eventually succumb to moisture if you don't seal the cut edges , pva would do
Thanks for a great and informative video! Would you recommend getting this over the Tesla wall charger for a model 3?
Is it OK to leave a home charger on the wall outside in the open like that? Rain won't mess it up? Or do you need to get a special one that is designed to be outside rather than inside?
Thanks Jordan for another interesting video.
I mush prefer a tethered charger my self. Also calling it a robot is a bit misleading ha ha was expecting it to do all the work for you
Hi Jordan l’m thinking of getting one of these Easse Chargers, been recommended by an EVO Installer, you stated that you would provide an update in a few weeks, what’s your verdiit?
26:40 : Regarding fault detections:
Majority of of Norwegian homes have IT or TT , TN is only common in newly build neighborhoods.
Just had one of these fitted yesterday, as they're being installed for free for electric Motability car owners, and can confirm that it has PEN fault detection now, as it threw this error about 2 hours after being installed. Has been resolved now though :-)
These chargers look like a great idea for new Builds and install the robot as and when its needed 👍
Apart from that retaining screw, is there anything to stop anyone pinching the charger? It probably wouldn’t be much use without the ability to register it, but still a pain and cost if it is stolen.
You can attach a padlock on top of the robot (inside the enclosure) which would block anyone from pushing it up an off off the backplate.
This is the charger that I'm looking at for our flat allocated space. 4g connection is a big win for us.
We need 32a or 40a MCB only for this charger s it has built in RCD ? Can we fit with 40 Amp single pole RCBO?
Do you have a video on how to setup the equalizer?
What a great product.
Very useful information here. I'm looking at the lower-spec 'home' model as part of my checks before taking the EV plunge.
Have you ever done an install where the unit itself is in the garage and the Type 2 port is actually split/spurred into 2 wires ... where one wire goes to one side of the garage (and is then fed through the wall to an external-wall-mounted Type 2 'dock/port') and the other wire goes to the opposite side of the garage (and is then fed through the wall to another external-wall-mounted Type 2 'dock/port')?
I can't garage a car (garage is way too small) but I'd like the wall unit inside - and have the ability to plug in a Type 2 cable from the outside - from either side of the garage using one or the other wall mounted ports - without needing to go into the garage. I'd just enable the charge via an app (or the car planner/some other way).
I'm using this charger to charge my Tesla Model S with 230V 3fas 32A, main fuse 50A, charger fuse 40A and 10mm2 cable. All with in the 20% safety spec. Topping out at 8.6kW with 243V.
I also have three of those currently we only have one car a Zoe, three-phase 32A 400V so 22kW charging... 50A three-phase main fuses that are basically unused to anything else.
These Easee chargers are the best. Or at least gives the "most bang for the buck".
The backboard looked like OBS / Sterling Board. From my experience even with the edges sealed water will still get into it and it will start to swell, delaminate and generally look a mess. Perhaps a plastic backboard would have been a better option
When you install multiple units, how do the communicate for load sharing? Do they use their own local network or do you need to link them with a data cable?
I think it works wirelessly
10:41 - Could the gland fit pointing inwards?
Any chance you could do a video on '2022 chargers you are happy to recommend'
When your only customer is the CEO of Artisan Electrics himself
very nice, looks sleek and indeed easy in many ways ... however I'm puzzled, why is this called a "robot", it has absolutely nothing "robotic" about it :)
Great video, great channel, keep it up!
Ive fitted a couple of those chargers now, great piece of kit, have you tried the proteus consumer unit with pen fault bulti in yet ?
Thanks for the video I'm going to be fitting these chargers soon...👍
Great videos Jordan. So would you say that the hypervolt is your favourite ev charger now.
Did RUclips finally bully you into not drilling more holes in the wall? 😂
Missed a chance for a click bait title here - "RUclips makes Jordan get wood" 😂 😂
LOL
Also instead of that bit of wood(looks abit naff) could you install that metal plate sheet with holes in( like the stuff you hang tools on?) and then bolt the different charges to that? save you drilling holes in wall
While the rain was falling you could have prepared the OSB wood...rounding the corners and sealing (or painting) it...especially the edges...would have been good.
It would make it look better and have the added benefit of keeping future water ingress from happening.
Honestly, I much preferred the Hypervolt unit for a domestic wall box Jordan.
Glad to see you have fitted a backer board - at last !.
An "off cut" of marine ply would be a better longer term option.
Will John returning to team - "Nice".
Have to install pen fault detection matt e device with this, try not lose that tool to remove the cover, dont know how you would loop out of the device with two cables when you want to run the cabling bottom entry. I think installing a zappi is easier imo.
3:13 - That is a small piece of OSB. I'll be interested to see what magic you perform on that to avoid papier-mache the next text it rains.
Ahahahha great video ! We need Artisan Skip Supplies merchandise
Does it come with in built pen fault protection ?
No it doesn't
But today is does, doesnt it? -it says so in the manual!
Great video mate keep it up always love the content, hope ur having a great weekend 👍.
Thanks, you too!
You finally took on my suggestion of a backing board 😁.
an artisan miracle! 😂😂😂 jk jordan, great find on the board! save the swiss cheese wall! (you should fill the olde holes i think!)
He’ll need to drill at least one more hole to do Cory’s brickdust-trick to hide the filled holes
7:33 sorry but to say this as a pro electrician is a total no go. how does the customer test if pen fault protection runs properly after mountign the berry on the plate?
Even being generous and say you charging at 8 amps for you to charge from 20% to 80% would take over 17 hours. I don’t think your tenants would be very happy to share charging at currents that low. However 21 amps is a respectable charge rate giving you recharge times around 6 hours per vehicle you might get both your vehicles charged overnight. Sounds perfect for your situation. I think this product in a tenant share situation, is only good enough to get your vehicle across town to the nearest Supercharger. Did you know that the regenerative braking can actually recharge your Tesla. If you can convince someone to tow your Tesla for about 25 miles at 70 m/hr. Of course the vehicle doing the towing will only be getting about 5 miles to the gallon. Great presentation, you made feel right at home. Happy charging!
HEY I see your installing a “Massive Solar “ array, I hope it is yours you need one.
Standing off the OSB board would make it so that it could be rear entry and then not worry about screws / lags getting into the brick. Easy stand offs are small 1" PVC pipe cuts run screw thru them. Some nice epoxy paint would make the OSB last a lot longer! OSB doesn't do good with water. I am assuming the Mrs of the house won't like the big chunk of wood on the side of 'her' house! 😁😁👍
I've just ordered an EV via Motability. Their charge point is being done by Easee so I'm wondering it I'll be getting something similar.
What security features does it have? Once its been set up does that stop someone else from using it? I’d be paranoid that someone could just buy a backplate and take my robot!
probs nothing stopping anyone takining it just like nest doorbells. the main deterrent is the fact they become paperweights if stolen due to serial numbers and account pairing. its like stealing an iphone
As Alitrix says, without your login info, or RFID chip, you can't start the charger. Also ours came with a small padlock to lock the front facia to the baseplate. Not high-security, but stops someone just popping it off and walking off on way home from pub. (Reminds me, must make sure I know where that key is) If someone tries to simply unplug from your car to charge theirs, as soo as the cable disconnects, it turns off, so needs re-started via app or RFID.
“Maybe it’s both!” 😂😂😂
It is a good practise to drill holes in the mortar, that allows an easy repair repointing the brickwork. Filling in the bricks is not so easy.
Just wondering. It's easy to mount. But also "easy to dismount"? It seems so. Just put screwdriver underneath.. and click.. so when it's mounted on place more or less open... No risk it will be gone when you wake up in the morning?
You can lock the chargeberry to the backplate with a pad lock, and even if a thief would get their hands on one, it won't work without a pin code :)
As you disconnected the CT's is there anything to limit the charger so you do not blow the service fuse?
I would like to know this as well?
This seems like any standard EVSE installation and setup. Same style install as Tesla Wall connector with the exception that the cable is modular.
Do you know what energy meters are compatible with BMW Wallbox Connect? I eas searching in BMW web, but no news.
Great channel and videos!!
No idea
Have these chargers got PEN fault protection built in yet, ? Great vid !
nope they dont!
What's your recommendation now? Hypervolt or Easee?
I think the hardware of the Easee looks better as does features like load balancing between devices....but their customer support is almost non existent - particularly stark when compared to Hypervolt.
Hypervolt is best option for most situations but Easee is good if you need load balancing or in commercial situations
@@artisanelectrics What load balancing solution did you use when installing two Hypervolts in that residential property?
Hypervolt say they will support load balancing in a future update (not sure if they’ll use Bluetooth or cloud to coordinate).
Used two CT clamps to do load management on each charge point
@@artisanelectrics Would that mean first come first serve (in terms of power) for the chargers?
12:45 no water in there, that isn't the IP rated part of the unit, as you can see your hand through the vents. The lock in piece is the only IP rated part.
yes
Maybe you could take off the charger and put on the blanking plate when you're away from home for weeks to prevent unauthorised usage, unless you have locking at the source or app.
I have a series 1 Leaf with the smaller battery but with the optional 6Kw charger. Since I bought it I have used the 13 a/h socket in the garage. It roughly charges about 10% capacity per hour. I have thought about having a 7Kw wall charger fitted to my house but all the ones I see reviewed seem so complicated. I am of the older generation, I don't have a smart phone even. Why can't I buy a simple to use wall charger with no app needed which I can just plug into without a wi-fi cloud set up. Is there such model out there for us "ludites"?
So I think the reason is that if you want a discount front the government, the device has to be passed as a smart device, as in internet connected. So I'd suggest most companies go this way when designing it.
I am surprised they don't use a proper cable gland which compresses on the cable give the sensitivity of the unit . The rubber nibble seems abit Heath Robinson how can you accurately cut that to wire dimeter??
There’s a special tool to remove the cover.
Yeah thanks I figured that out right at the end LOL
artisan vader! 😂😂
nice diddy gadget... tbh, i like 😊
For the nipple type grommets, drop it in a cup of boiling water while your drinking you tea, then a bit of silicone spray on the cable and it should stretch and slide over and form a nice tight perfect seal. 👍
That awkward moment when you realise you should've read the instructions before you started the install... lol. Still, makes for good entertainment.
Meanwhile - serious point - I don't have an EV at the moment but may consider one in the near future and so have been reading some info online regarding home charge points. Some of which says that new rules dictate that you're supposed to have an earth rod (TT) installed in addition to PME?? Just so you understand, I'm not an electrician and would obviously be getting a professional install, but I'm interested in this issue none the less.
I'm in Scotland, and have TN-C-S on my incoming mains. If I was having a home charger installed, it would be directly on an outside wall of the house. The consumer unit is on the same wall inside, so esentially back to back with the charger.