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I say this with all due respect but also knowing that we both know what being in ohio is like- People saying "people in the midwest are the best people" can only be A. Conservatives glad that they have people around them that are ignorant enough to stay conservative in the isolation of rural/rural adjacent living. or B. A cope because we all know being stuck in the midwest is fucking miserable because there's simultaneously everything but really nothing to do in the most extreme ways. Everything is either available but too far away, or what IS available sucks dick.
The thing is it used to be that nobody liked these kind of people even in the church but now everyone not like this are leaving, only the cringe lords remain.
@@n0etic_f0x Converts to a religion are some of the most dedicated and usually fundamentalist while those leaving religion are the least dedicated/attached. Religions use this as a filter to have a increasingly dedicated following that would do anything for it - thus why we are seeing a rise in fundamentalism and religious extremism, it is religion's natural course.
"We welcome the outcast", while RZ goes onto describe predatory behavior targeting emotionally vulnerable people. His kind are dangerous, it's no wonder SA is so popular for them, they have the gall to wonder why their breed is dying.
I found this guy before he got big when he made a legitimately pretty cool video comparing all the christian denominations. I’ve been subbed out of a sense of dark curiosity ever since.
Dude, I loved that denominations video because it was genuinely well researched and presented, like it could be a real educational tool. It wasn't until the last minute or so that he drops that insanely sexist and homophobic stuff, and it's like... Why do you have to be like that?
@@LundunDansquawhile I agree that most American Christianity is that way. Not all are. There are some that do not such as many non-denominational churches. I personally think basing your beliefs around a sky fairy is silly.
@@ObliviousMalodi nope. People don’t get to claim Christianity and go “well those stories we don’t listen to” when all the rest do and use the “nice” christians as shields to claim unjust persecution. The “nice” ones are just as complicit in Christianity’s crimes and bigotry. Religion is a cancer.
He comes across to me as someone who has been taken advantage of by the religion. A lot of people can be frustrating or even infuriating to listen to, but this is just kind of heartbreaking. It's like listening to a grooming victim talk about all the gifts the groomer gives them.
When he said that there weren't any christians at his high school, i bet he just means that there weren't any "true" christians, in his eyes, that is, there weren't any evangelical born-again christians. I bet he tried to start a "christian club", but none of the other more moderate christian kids wanted to make one with him because he was so weird and obsessive about it.
Excuse me, is this the cult? Oh no! We just want you to prey on the loneliness of those around you to compel them to join our... Yeah... this is the cult
"I don't like the mental health movement." he forgot to add "Because mentally healthy people don't seek religion to fill the gaps in their lives if there aren't any gaps to fill"
Id recommend watching essoterica's videos on the origins of the storm war diety that eventually turns into the old testament's "God". Really shows just how christianity is just a religion amongst other religions, no matter how special Christians think they are
Weird how my clinical depression symptoms were overwhelming during my time as an active churchgoer in my early adulthood, but it's been a long time since I have been active or depressed as well. Correlation may not be causation, but...
If you think about it the Golden Rule is kind of just the inverse of the Eye for an Eye philosophy so, really not that groundbreaking. Kind of like the idea of infinity; it is just a matter of seeing something that will eventually end but going, 'nah.'
Wow, he gets close to actually bringing up a good point when he points out that people are missing community because churches used to be the only one a lot of people had. Maybe we shouldn't center our entire social culture around your backwards superstition and we should make some other communal spaces.
Why did RUclips recommend me a video with a guy who multiple times calls my religion and my brothers who practice it freaks? Is the recommendation system broken or something
He’s calling this zoomer guy, who is obsessive, bigoted and condescending a freak because he’s acting like one. Yes he criticises the religion, but not the people in it, well maybe some of the more extreme people… And nah the recommendation system is just basic sometimes, it’s probably just because the topic is religion and the title of the video itself is pretty neutral.
Your stance on atheism is strangely restrictive. I cannot believe in any higher being or power (or similar), so I'm an atheist. My knowledge about Christianity is just a nice bonus, and I don't think we should require it for someone to not be a "fake atheist" Also "thou shalt not kill" isn't Jesus, it's one of the ten commandments, so old testament stuff
"building churches in minecraft and talking about christianity" sounds like the kind of shit i would do as a kid just to convince my mom to let me play a video game on sunday (i was raised mormon)
7:35 I always get a little bit thrown whenever I hear people just outright say “the left is satanic” like Redeemed Zoomer does right here And how dismissively he says it too like holy shit. I genuinely don’t see how he could be friends with anyone he sees as leftist purely because of how much obvious contempt for the *concept* of them he has
A rather sociopathic view of other people. The religious mind virus that causes its hosts to see only other people as more potential hosts for its propogation.
If Christianity is uniquely suited to building healthy communities, how come other (apparently wrong) religions, such as Islam and Judaism build communities which are just as strong, if not stronger? Why do cults also tend to create a powerful sense of community? Could it be that we, as humans, have social needs, and religions and similar groups hijack these social spaces to spread and control people? That, maybe, finding likeminded individuals feels good, no matter if they’re religious or not?
This should be epic AF. Christian ideas of friendship are... bad. The thing is they are bad and an adorably naive way. You have to be very into women but also totally averse to sex and it is hilarious. The worst part is it stays like this until you are twenty-five this stuff is so weird.
I remember ruining a friendship as a former christian child (no longer either of those lol) because I kept trying to convince my pagan friend to convert and not just accept her how she was with her beliefs. So yeah, christian ideas of friendship are kinda f'd
@@KalinTheZola see I was the heretic. Just be nice to the people and talk about how happy you are so they know Christians are not evil. I was told to preach to them but I didn’t want to because I knew they don’t want to hear from the Bible. It’s why none of them could make friends who are explicitly not Christians. It just became Bible Bible Bible after a while and people would just ignore them. One thing I notice has changed is there are many Christians who have said after you are preached to once move on that was never preached prior to me hearing it about three years ago and now it’s fairly common. I think so many people have told them to just leave them alone that they are giving up. They are seeing less Christians so they can’t give people as much time as used to.
@@n0etic_f0x ngl I was just (in tears) legitimately terrified my friend was going to burn in hell. I really think that is such a potentially damaging thing to convince children of.
@@KalinTheZola Oh definitely. It’s why I was so fervent against using the Bible, it makes it into a sales pitch and people tune out. I would watch the interest fall from them and it would just start depressing me because they just got pushed further away from Christianity. I never thought of asking what was really happening from their perspective but once I saw that it was all over. Oh they see us as we see all other religions… why though? Oh it’s because we act just like them! Wait… wait. No this is not supposed to be a possible conclusion… oh no. Well… this sucks if we are just like Islam and Islam is false… oh, well that was a waste of time.
@@n0etic_f0x religious beliefs, especially ones that are so steeped in the actual culture to the point that even people who aren't Christian in the us are likely raised to be "culturally" Christian, those seem to inevitably lead down that path. I'm never going to tell someone to not follow their religious beliefs (I mean as long as they're not hurting people with it) but especially as someone who grew up in that environment, it's nothing more than socially accepted lunacy that does potentially irreparable harm to the psyche of those who grow up under it, particularly the worst aspects of it.
Why does Redeemed Zoomer hate the "mental health movement," and what does he mean by the "mental health movement" anyway? I ask so I don't have to watch one of his videos and give him views he doesn't deserve.
bruh that channel is one of the memes of all time, at least they found a way to connect video games to christianity, if this was 20 years ago that zoomer nerd would be called a devil worshiping satanist
This guy is building churches in survival mode because doing it in creative would be playing God
I'm from Ohio. Saying "the people in the Midwest are the best people" is meaningless drivel.
I say this with all due respect but also knowing that we both know what being in ohio is like- People saying "people in the midwest are the best people" can only be
A. Conservatives glad that they have people around them that are ignorant enough to stay conservative in the isolation of rural/rural adjacent living.
or
B. A cope because we all know being stuck in the midwest is fucking miserable because there's simultaneously everything but really nothing to do in the most extreme ways. Everything is either available but too far away, or what IS available sucks dick.
as a Mississippian, I totally agree! Everyone knows Canadians are the best! 😅
@@EpicWinNoobAnother Ohioan co-sign here
Redeemed Zoomer truly does serve as a cautionary tale for what happens when you convert to Christianity
The thing is it used to be that nobody liked these kind of people even in the church but now everyone not like this are leaving, only the cringe lords remain.
@@n0etic_f0x Converts to a religion are some of the most dedicated and usually fundamentalist while those leaving religion are the least dedicated/attached. Religions use this as a filter to have a increasingly dedicated following that would do anything for it - thus why we are seeing a rise in fundamentalism and religious extremism, it is religion's natural course.
He didn’t convert. His dumb ass was raised that way. His lies about being an atheist are very easy to spot.
"My high school was the cliquiest environment I've ever been in" and my cat's breath smells like cat food
This kid hyperfixates on Christianity like it's a fandom he's in. Like this is only a bit more obnoxious than how I am about Bloodborne.
But like, Bloodborne is actually cool
Bloodborne has the better architecture.
Fun fact about that guy .He only became christian because people in middle school.
They kept on making fun of his voice.
I can sympathize
It IS funny to me hearing his accent coming out despite his efforts to hide it.
But I'm also from jersey.
"We welcome the outcast", while RZ goes onto describe predatory behavior targeting emotionally vulnerable people. His kind are dangerous, it's no wonder SA is so popular for them, they have the gall to wonder why their breed is dying.
also while talking about how you should shame gay people if you love them
I found this guy before he got big when he made a legitimately pretty cool video comparing all the christian denominations. I’ve been subbed out of a sense of dark curiosity ever since.
Dude, I loved that denominations video because it was genuinely well researched and presented, like it could be a real educational tool. It wasn't until the last minute or so that he drops that insanely sexist and homophobic stuff, and it's like... Why do you have to be like that?
NO WAY IT WAS THAT GUY FUCK
@@joshb6132because he is religious. It’s part of their whole thing.
@@LundunDansquawhile I agree that most American Christianity is that way. Not all are. There are some that do not such as many non-denominational churches. I personally think basing your beliefs around a sky fairy is silly.
@@ObliviousMalodi nope. People don’t get to claim Christianity and go “well those stories we don’t listen to” when all the rest do and use the “nice” christians as shields to claim unjust persecution. The “nice” ones are just as complicit in Christianity’s crimes and bigotry. Religion is a cancer.
He comes across to me as someone who has been taken advantage of by the religion. A lot of people can be frustrating or even infuriating to listen to, but this is just kind of heartbreaking. It's like listening to a grooming victim talk about all the gifts the groomer gives them.
When he said that there weren't any christians at his high school, i bet he just means that there weren't any "true" christians, in his eyes, that is, there weren't any evangelical born-again christians. I bet he tried to start a "christian club", but none of the other more moderate christian kids wanted to make one with him because he was so weird and obsessive about it.
Yeah a community all right
A community of covering up atrocities against children
If Moral Orel was a Minecraft RUclipsr
Excuse me, is this the cult?
Oh no! We just want you to prey on the loneliness of those around you to compel them to join our...
Yeah... this is the cult
"I don't like the mental health movement." he forgot to add "Because mentally healthy people don't seek religion to fill the gaps in their lives if there aren't any gaps to fill"
dude, at that camp you were their mark and you fell for it head over heels.
I’d forgotten that I was here for this. Shows how much of an impact this Christian leaves.
"were we build churches in minecraft " is possibly the most pathetic sentence ever spoken
The only covenantal benefits I want are energy sword swords, plasma guns, and FTL spaceships.
"That looks good bud" kilt me
Fuck he sounds like whatifalthist but with a way less interesting gimmick.
He's inclusive like the borg.
Id recommend watching essoterica's videos on the origins of the storm war diety that eventually turns into the old testament's "God". Really shows just how christianity is just a religion amongst other religions, no matter how special Christians think they are
Was that a doraleous and associates reference? Because I WOOD like to hear more of those
I think he needs to move on from his bad highschool experiences.
People are sad, it must be because they don't think like me!
I joined a cult because they all were super nice to me and offered me a glass of Kool Aid!
Weird how my clinical depression symptoms were overwhelming during my time as an active churchgoer in my early adulthood, but it's been a long time since I have been active or depressed as well. Correlation may not be causation, but...
By that same logic, I would be healed with religion because I was raised non-religious and have been clinically deperessed since i was 8 yeas old.
34:26 Jake’s been a bit of a gossip lately by this guy’s definition. But I would say it was perfectly justified.
If you think about it the Golden Rule is kind of just the inverse of the Eye for an Eye philosophy so, really not that groundbreaking. Kind of like the idea of infinity; it is just a matter of seeing something that will eventually end but going, 'nah.'
i am dying, redeemed zoomer's missives on society killed me, let it be known
This has a puberty voice like xanderhal. Lol
30:00 Blessed are the Eunuchs is pretty damn profound
Wow, he gets close to actually bringing up a good point when he points out that people are missing community because churches used to be the only one a lot of people had. Maybe we shouldn't center our entire social culture around your backwards superstition and we should make some other communal spaces.
“Blessed are the poor.” It’s in the Bible. That means HELP THEM.
This guy made an entire video “debunking” atheist arguments by literally just saying “idk so it gotta be god”.
As a midwesterner, FCA is right there bro
Why did RUclips recommend me a video with a guy who multiple times calls my religion and my brothers who practice it freaks? Is the recommendation system broken or something
He’s calling this zoomer guy, who is obsessive, bigoted and condescending a freak because he’s acting like one. Yes he criticises the religion, but not the people in it, well maybe some of the more extreme people…
And nah the recommendation system is just basic sometimes, it’s probably just because the topic is religion and the title of the video itself is pretty neutral.
@@The_fastfreddy You religion and beliefs ARE ridiculous and nonsensical. Invisible Sky Wizard isn't real.
16:58 people were nice to me is a decent reason to switch to a different sect of Christianity but to change faiths all together? It is indeed strange.
Is this Whatifalthist's alt
"You should welcome the outcasts!"
"Okay, come on in LGBTQ+ community"
"EW! NOT THOSE OUTCASTS!'
17:30 Debt = sin
I support old and decrepit jake
Nature vs Nutcase
Your stance on atheism is strangely restrictive. I cannot believe in any higher being or power (or similar), so I'm an atheist. My knowledge about Christianity is just a nice bonus, and I don't think we should require it for someone to not be a "fake atheist"
Also "thou shalt not kill" isn't Jesus, it's one of the ten commandments, so old testament stuff
God is good and the devil is evil
Neither one is real, mate.
aww, give him a chance. He's just a lil guy :3
Cool story, bro.
@@Noname72105 God and the devil are real fool
@@secutorprimus okay
Cobs out for jesus
"building churches in minecraft and talking about christianity" sounds like the kind of shit i would do as a kid just to convince my mom to let me play a video game on sunday (i was raised mormon)
He actually shuts the server down on Sunday so you can't make that excuse. He's also anti-Mormon.
"Where we build churches in MineCraft and talk about Christianity." Is the most youth pastor thing I've heard.
I remember a vbs week when I was a kid, the whole week was minecraft themed.
7:35
I always get a little bit thrown whenever I hear people just outright say “the left is satanic” like Redeemed Zoomer does right here
And how dismissively he says it too like holy shit. I genuinely don’t see how he could be friends with anyone he sees as leftist purely because of how much obvious contempt for the *concept* of them he has
I never thought I'd live to witness someone with less charisma than Whatifalthist 😵💫
less charisma but the same inability to understand history and sociology. Same bibledweeb way of speaking too.
He's essentially reducing friends to a commodity, seeing them more as points on a scorecard than as people. I'm sure that will end well.
A rather sociopathic view of other people.
The religious mind virus that causes its hosts to see only other people as more potential hosts for its propogation.
If Christianity is uniquely suited to building healthy communities, how come other (apparently wrong) religions, such as Islam and Judaism build communities which are just as strong, if not stronger? Why do cults also tend to create a powerful sense of community?
Could it be that we, as humans, have social needs, and religions and similar groups hijack these social spaces to spread and control people? That, maybe, finding likeminded individuals feels good, no matter if they’re religious or not?
He is very smarmy and condescending. That's why he didn't have any friends in high school.
This should be epic AF. Christian ideas of friendship are... bad. The thing is they are bad and an adorably naive way. You have to be very into women but also totally averse to sex and it is hilarious.
The worst part is it stays like this until you are twenty-five this stuff is so weird.
I remember ruining a friendship as a former christian child (no longer either of those lol) because I kept trying to convince my pagan friend to convert and not just accept her how she was with her beliefs. So yeah, christian ideas of friendship are kinda f'd
@@KalinTheZola see I was the heretic. Just be nice to the people and talk about how happy you are so they know Christians are not evil.
I was told to preach to them but I didn’t want to because I knew they don’t want to hear from the Bible. It’s why none of them could make friends who are explicitly not Christians. It just became Bible Bible Bible after a while and people would just ignore them.
One thing I notice has changed is there are many Christians who have said after you are preached to once move on that was never preached prior to me hearing it about three years ago and now it’s fairly common.
I think so many people have told them to just leave them alone that they are giving up. They are seeing less Christians so they can’t give people as much time as used to.
@@n0etic_f0x ngl I was just (in tears) legitimately terrified my friend was going to burn in hell. I really think that is such a potentially damaging thing to convince children of.
@@KalinTheZola Oh definitely. It’s why I was so fervent against using the Bible, it makes it into a sales pitch and people tune out. I would watch the interest fall from them and it would just start depressing me because they just got pushed further away from Christianity.
I never thought of asking what was really happening from their perspective but once I saw that it was all over.
Oh they see us as we see all other religions… why though? Oh it’s because we act just like them! Wait… wait. No this is not supposed to be a possible conclusion… oh no.
Well… this sucks if we are just like Islam and Islam is false… oh, well that was a waste of time.
@@n0etic_f0x religious beliefs, especially ones that are so steeped in the actual culture to the point that even people who aren't Christian in the us are likely raised to be "culturally" Christian, those seem to inevitably lead down that path.
I'm never going to tell someone to not follow their religious beliefs (I mean as long as they're not hurting people with it) but especially as someone who grew up in that environment, it's nothing more than socially accepted lunacy that does potentially irreparable harm to the psyche of those who grow up under it, particularly the worst aspects of it.
"We live for the next life, not this fallen world." This sums up my issues with christianity pretty well. Its so gross to teach people this.
Actual Jake, as opposed to pretend Jake
Why does Redeemed Zoomer hate the "mental health movement," and what does he mean by the "mental health movement" anyway? I ask so I don't have to watch one of his videos and give him views he doesn't deserve.
22:49 Is he related to Ben Shapiro? Kinda sounds like him.
bruh that channel is one of the memes of all time, at least they found a way to connect video games to christianity, if this was 20 years ago that zoomer nerd would be called a devil worshiping satanist
The music in his video sounds like the music from every strategy game released in the 90s.
"gen z is the most depressed generation in history" now we know thats not fucking true.
Unfortunately at least according to sheer numbers that part was actually true, our mental health isn’t doing so great
Lmfaooo no fucking way
omg is this guy 19?
I wonder if when bros clearing put trees in minecraft if he eats the apple it drops...
Could I have tax benefits instead of covenatal benefits please, my guy?
Are any of those campers still his friend?
Ok, but an animated series of mad max like Warriors coming up with religion through the horrors of war to justify it sounds awesome.
"War monkeys" is a bad ass title
Speaking as someone from the Midwest, I agree with him. The people in the midwest are the best.