@@Issam-od4pg Games could be updated and patched before live service became a thing, what they can't do however is fix the horrendous first impression.
@@SarcasticTentacle I didn't say they can update because it's a live service game, I just said they can update it period unlike the other two which didn't get many updates at all, and idk the steam reviews are starting to shift towards positive slowly, if they don't let this happen again for the full launch they might still be okay
>Battle Pass >Game as a Service model >Always online format >ROADMAP!!! >Server shut down means end of the game >"It will be good in 2 years!" Yeah uhm... No. Im out.
@@PlanetThrill i'm not buying those either .. like i can play nfs:hs or porsche unleashed in 2024 with some modern fixes and i payed ONCE for them and then played more than 3k hours each over the years ... oh and i can leave them legacy to my kids for some retro stuff for them .. i can't pay 50 euros for 2 years of bad game .. i'd rather play tdu1 offline with my install media and some patches and it's another yet better game than this that feels like just another frostbite generic nfs game with a little bad handling to make the game feel more midway between arcade and sim :)
@@PlanetThrill yeah those games aren't exactly thriving either. If you're guna put a battle pass in a game, it better be free imo. Battle pass in a paid game is insane.
@@PlanetThrill Uh, a lot of people were complaining about both NFS Unbound and Motorfest on day one. Players were pointing towards the lack of content in both games (though unfairly-so with Unbound imo) with Motorfest being the worst example in recent years. The same was being told about The Crew 2 by the way. Do we live in the same reality?
TDU SC - no mmo elements - tiny lobbies on a huge map - barely any character customization or stores - no houses - no special deliveries - no casino this doesn't feel like a tdu game
houses, special events and casino will be added later! They want to support this game for years! This game can make you 1000 times happier than a new freakin need for speeds or something else I dunno!
@@Nords_e87_130i Game makes a big deal being based in Hong Kong a country that drives on the left. And not a single RHD variant of any of the cars on the list.
Oh dude.. nothing hit me harder than when EA announced they were sunsetting the Battlefield 3 servers. Just cemented a real apathy in me about trying new games.. Ones with online components at least.
Remember when we had a plethora of solid open world racing games? It's almost hard to blame Forza Horizon for being pretty lazy the past two releases, with the lack of good competition these days
At this point I'm sick of open worlds. Give me like several mid-sized worlds like Midnight Club 3. Heck just gimme a new Midnight club because modern NFS ain't cutting it
Which Demo you talk about?...Oh you mean PC only...PS5 and Xbox where left out!...we did have the oppertunity for a playable Beta,but that came in the form of a pre-order.
ALL they had to do was remaster TDU1 and/or 2. NO ONE would’ve complained about getting those exact games with just modernized graphics & updated physics…
@@t.k3579 Nah, I always preferred a remaster of those 2 over a new tdu (mainly cuz I knew they’d never be able to make anything better). But still, I wouldn’t have minded a new sequel if they hadn’t effed it up so badly.
Review on point. How did they have pedestrians in The Crew which is 10 years old but in new games it's too much effort? How are we still limited by the same lobby and group sizes as 15 years ago? If they wanna make it so online focused, then it should be properly implemented. Cross play, no region lock, at least 16 player lobbies and 8 player groups. Throw some fun side missions in (remember the location reveal trailer right at the end, when the camera panned out from the trunk of an Aston with a suitcase in it?) and a police system and you have a great game! I personally really enjoy it already but i obviously really hope for the studio to keep updating this game with said content. FH needs a competitor!
@@Dregomz02 Exactly what I wanted to comment as well. I will avoid it for shure, unfortunately I speend soo much time on TDU1 and 2 on the old 360, I really wanted a good successor. Well that did not work out. Lost the TDU DNA, lifeless map, abysmal performance und well aged graphics, freaking battle passes coming and that always onlibe bs that does not even work from the beginning
TDU SC will go down as the biggest self sabotage in racing game history. KT had everything needed for a successful racing game. They had a passionate fanbase. Instead, they proceeded to do the polar opposite of what everyone expected. The game was revealed over 4 years before it released (equivalent of revealing Assassin's Creed Unity after Brotherhood). It was almost considered a vapourware for more than 3 years before they finally revealed gameplay in the worst way possible. KT saw that The Crew 1 vanished from the face of the Earth after 9 years and 4 months (which also includes getting delisted from players' libraries), yet they still insisted on keeping that always online DRM. KT somehow managed to make the map feel more empty than the map of an 18 year old racing game originally made for 360 that was also available on PS2. Game also runs at only 1080p when performance mode is chosen, and Series S doesn't even have performance mode. If it wasn't for Alex VII, most of us would've lost interest in this game a long time ago. Alex VII cares more about TDU SC than the publishers and developers themselves. It's a miracle that this game even managed to end up of players' hands.
@@zmmmzmmmzthis guy's has been promoting this game a lot he even showcases the supposed finished build like he's having all the backdoor access to KT's offices
Really the best analysis of this UTTER FLOP game that could've been one of the best ever and it turned out completely opposite. Real shame and still can't understand all these gamers enjoying and praising it...
It is a miracle the game even shipped. I wouldn't blame KT as much as you did. Given they're going on strike against Nacon as the game is released, I wonder how much crap they had to put up with from their publisher.
“TDU 1 and 2 were so ahead of its time”. Just like those games TDU Solar Crown is a product of its time. Whereas the 2010s (and prior of course) had games actually had effort put into them, now it’s just another intellectual property to collect digital dust. And dust it will collect given that it’s an always online game. The only way I’d imagine these companies to put effort into their games again is if there’d be another video game crash like the 80’s.
I was skeptical since the closed playtests and I feel justified now. My experience in the demo was as such: discover roads and pickups in starter car, buy a classic 'Stang and the DB11, complete discovery... and then it felt like I've seen everything. Racing is not very compelling and outside that there is only cruising - both of which I cannot do with friends due to region lock and pitiful group size. And it seems nothing has changed in full release. Major performance issues also seem here to stay. Severe lack of JDM cars in freaking HONG KONG of all places is just a kick in the nuts. The whole package has this clinical, corporate, checking-boxes feel to it. Got map, got cars, got racing events, got a little bit of story to it. But where's the soul, the vision? Horizon with all its shortcomings still has a unique atmosphere to it. Hell, even a game like CarX Street with the BS AI filler, and underwhelming handling, and mobile roots has heaps more style and flair than Solar Crown, and actually feels like made by people who are into cars. Honestly this will just be a pass for me. I'm not interested in casinos or crew battles and I feel like nothing they can add on top of v1.0 will offset the missing backbone.
I started playing TDU 2 recently after like 10 years and I realize how much I love that game even with it's flaws. It's more enjoyable than TDU SC with so much more things to do in the game world. At this point I'd love just a remaster of TDU 2 with better handling.
You can literally take pictures in the game and hang them up in your house for bloody sakes in TDU 2 which is incredible....it's both amazing and I'm grateful that will always have TDU 1 and 2 masterpieces, and also annoyed that they refuse or are incapable of simply making a new one with the exact same amazing perfect features.....I have to assume it's pure incompetence or deliberate subversion at this point because it simply makes no sense for games 10-20 years old to be objectively better then stuff now across the board. All they needed to do was have a real life location/map/ fully explorable/ place dealerships and clothing stores around the map/ modification shops/ have championship off and on road races/ licenses tests places/ and the ability to buy houses that are customizable of all types all around the island that have garages and etc. that's literally all they needed to do and instead they did essentially none of that. It simply makes no sense, and as crazy as I may sound well if ideology/agendas/and subversion is infesting Movies and tv shows now even to the point of knowingly sacrificing maximum financial gains....then have to assume a similar thing is taking place in the video game industry as well.
The sad part is... they really didn't have to do all that much. They could pretty much re-done what was already there in previous installments. But nope. Add Always-Online and... eh. And I had some hopes for it. Thanks for the review, it was really nicely done visually and was informative as well.
A real life location map that is at least comparable in size to TDU parts 1 and 2, island full of car dealership's/ clothing stores/ tune up/decal etc. shops/ houses that are fully customizable around the island to buy, garages to interact with at said houses, license tests/ off road and normal championships, all the cool side missions like picking up hitchhikers etc. etc. that's all they had to do, instead basically we get none of that.
Exactly right?! Only the thought of having to race against other people stresses me tf out. Life is so competitive in any aspect these days I just wanna kick back and do some relaxed races against AI and not have to worry about competing and giving it all, all the time...
They could of futurized TDU 1 and 2 and do the silly clan thing and kept houses and it would of been a hit, because its so different from whats out there!!! I was so excited . I played the demo for hours.. but something was missing.. TDU is missing.. TDU is missing. They should call this SOLAR CROWN LIMITED
Thank you for mentioning the radio. Didn't see anyone mention the lack of it so far. I guess the list is full of the things that previous games had or did better... I used to enjoy the music so much, and the witty commercials full of sarcasm would always get me 😂
16:46 I played Crazy Taxi on Dreamcast the other day. Why does a 25 year old game can fill an open city with people and cars on the road at locked 60FPS on a 100$ console but TDU on a 4080 can't?
I feel you! I've been playing through Midnight Club 3 & LA recently and those games both have lively cities filled with pedestrians and dense traffic. Rockstar definitely knows how to create a world. I think there's often too big of a focus on making sure games are pretty screenshot simulators that look good in marketing, instead of focusing on the actual player experience. It's all about cranking up the graphics to sell something shiny instead of creating vibrant worlds and filling them with content.
TDU SC is actually completely unfixable. They made a massive blunder immediately making a TDU game, they made it so your cars are in a menu and you can have infinite cars and just decide which ones to put on display. Thats not TDU thats Forza. I loved that every car in TDU2 mattered to me, i worked hard for them, my first Ferrari etc. you had to buy a new garage to store more cars but every car felt like YOUR car. This can never be fixed in TDU SC because if they do fix it, theyll have to take cars away from people and theyd never do that.
There is genuinely no other creator whose opinion on racing games I respect more than yours. I really appreciate videos like this, it plays a huge factor on if I buy certain games.
Even though I’ve bought the game and play it, I was still looking forward to this review. No flashy words or heightened emotions, just straight and to the point. An honest look and something with potential. Hokohoshi is the absolute best person to review a game like this.
@@markvanwalsem3201 Not at the moment wait until the end of October or November or Christmas if you want to wait longer for a sale probably but give this game a month or two
The only reason I was hyped for TDU was due to the lifestyle element it had in previous games. The rags to riches lifestyle. Not starting the game in a super car but having to work for it. If that isn’t the case why would I not just play The Crew or Forza? With no Properties, no real customization and no out of race focus it just ain’t a TDU game imo.
Exactly. They left out almost everything that made TDU unique. I also loved TDU because of the things you described. There is no reason for me to buy this game. It's a shame because racing games have become more and more bland in recent years. A proper TDU would have been a great addition to the market...
@@blankblank1257 The odometer was AT ZERO IT WAS BRAND NEW and also in no world even if its the bare shell thats also crashed is a Lancia Delta going for 20 grand
the emptiness aspect was my biggest gripe of the gameworld. low traffic density and no pedestrians on such a densely populated island? especially with such wide streets, it feels so alienating. you feel like a survivor of a zombie apocalypse
Man I’m just going to say the traffic it’s there I don’t get the point about low traffic density it’s almost impossible to drive fast without swerving through traffic
So many genres and franchises are in their golden age right now, and I feel like racing games are at their darkest of dark ages currently. Games as a service completely destroyed the single player racing game...
I was thinking the same, it does fit into the theme of the ‘solar crown’ hiring out the entire island but it fits it too well and I don’t think that leads to a fun driving environment
in my opinion, they confused the game's main focus by combining many things from their competitors. TDU was all about the unique experience which we dont get in the usual racing games as it revolves around the lifestyle point of racers. But, they did not put much effort into these areas and focused solely on beating their competitors which is not a bad thing but the game loses its uniqueness during the process. We lost garages, player houses and other features that are so unique and made earlier TDU games very popular. We do not want plenty of races or offroad challenges, we want a game where we can drive the cars at slow pace and enjoy the car's features like roof mechanism or traffic driving while looking at the scenery. even though garages and houses are returning soon, TDU already reached a critical state which makes both features almost pointless as the game never logs us in the first place. i am a little disappointed by the clunky handling of the game than its optimisation. As being a racing game fan, i really hoped this game would directly compete with FH5 for the crown. these are all my opinions and i apologise if my assumptions are not correct. hope they fix the game soon before it hits rock bottom. apologise for writing a full book as a comment😂😂
there is no meaningful progression for you to make as a player either, you're immediately a guest in a rich hotel that pays for itself. why even bother with houses? TDU2 started you off in a shitty trailer. that gave you a motivation to not only get better cars, but also raise your own status to higher levels.
@@KankaWasTaken No it didn't and stop lying you and I did it cause we had nothing better to do and found it fun there was never "motivation" its a video game not real life
I cant understand how they managed to do so much wrong. What are devs these days doing? They had the answers to the test and still failed. I was so excited for this game….its just a shame.
Let’s see what happens in 6 months time. We’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. It’s not looking good at all. Needing to be online really hurts. Let’s see. I was going to buy a next gen console just for this game but won’t be doing that at the moment.
I'm kinda glad I held off and instead picked up the OG TDU and TDU 2 (your video helped push me to finally give it a try). Def a wait for a good sale game for Solar Crown by the looks of it
Everything feels off with the game. The UI looks to generic, cheesy/awkward cutscenes/voices, not so great character customization, poorly optimized, graphics could use a revamp, and everything looking futuristic/techy. It might seem like im hating on this game but I really want it to be great. I just feel like the game doesn’t have that essence like the other tdus. It was always the small details that made tdu what it is.I also wish that they would add satellite style maps with music similar to tdu2 to the game.
I'll be honest, every racing game nowadays is always, for some godforsaken reason, trying to be a Forza Horizon game and this suffers from the same fate. Another thing I wanted to point out is that the car list feels... outdated. There's like 5 cars from 2021 or later. In my opinion, there should've atleast been something like a GR86, Ferrari 296/F8/SF90, 2024 Mustang just to name a few, but you can go on and on about this.
compared to its main rivals like forza and motorfest the car list is sad i love to see some american suvs and off roads trucks like bronco raptor and i loved to have seen some early 2000 cars and 1980 and 1990 cars i do like some part of the car like sound when they start thier engines but i do hear they have plans of adding body kits and aero down the line i do love the massive map of hki also some cars sadly have forza style copy paste engine sounds hki map compared to forza is so much better but would i reckomend the game not at this moment maybe down the line
After playing both, I got a refund for TDUSU and kept CarX Street. It's only $22 compared to $80+ for TDUSU and somehow, it can look just as good as and even in some occasions better than TDUSU without the need of a super computer even though it is essentially an upscaled mobile game. CarX Street doesn't have pedestrians either but can feel alive due to VERY HIGH traffic density which is also adjustable to your liking. The map is better overall as well as it somehow feels much bigger even though it's actually smaller. WAYYYY more customization as well as event types and things to do like delivery missions, car delivery missions, time trials, leaderboards, etc. It just has proper vibes (especially at night) that we haven't seen since the NFS Underground/Midnight Club days of the early 2000's. Legit feels like a mash of NFS Underground 2, Midnight Club and Juiced. Even though it's also an always online game (which I hate), they at least had the decency to add a "offline" mode which is essentially a solo mode for solo players to enjoy the game at their own pace aka no queing for races ever. Such a shame as I was one of the defenders of TDUSU before launch and even after the beta demo but man they REALLY blew it IMO.
I’m not picking up TDUSC. I’ll keep it on my wishlist, and maybe in a year or so if they’ve updated it a lot, I might pick it up on a big steam sale. But after playing the demo, honestly the game just isn’t that great and the release doesn’t look any better.
I criticized another channel for giving this a slight recommendation, and I'm shocked to see you doing it too. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I feel its a cash grab nowhere near what was promised. The Steam reviews reflect my experience - even without technical issues it doesn't seem halfway ready for release. But I concede that it could just be fun anyway for some people
Totally agree. Had a server issue when I was trying to buy a car, logged in the next day and I had 2 Audi's and apparently no way to get rid of one of them. I was honestly completely baffled when I found out there is no way to get rid of cars.
I disagree with Hoki's take and actually agree with yours, but calling him a shill for taking a rosier view on things says a lot less about him than it does about you.
This is literally like TDU2 its started out bad and will hopefully get better say what you want I am not willing to admit this game is gonna stay like this
From what I've noticed, the PS5 version runs like it's a PS4 and if we're talking about failed ports, it could also launch it on PS4 because it's already obvious that you can't say that PS5 doesn't have the power to run the game, it's just poorly optimized. And that's still true on PS4 too
Well all cars are tuned for street first these days. Heck my R33 GTR did 180 km/h in 3rd gear. My Civic Type R really needed to shift to make it move, no point and shooting. Can’t remember which modern Porsche I saw but it did like 120 km/h in 2nd gear.
that's exactly why I roll my eyes on games like The Crew 1 and NFS 2015 like plague back in the day, and showed little interest with Driveclub due to being one of those games that can be played offline at that time
The biggest problem for me with this new TDU is that it gives literally zero reasons to play this over Horizon, the same as The Crew Motorfest. These are all open world carfest racing games with almost no differences. If it at least had some more elements similar to the old TDUs I'd be more interested in it. Idk why all of these open world racing games goal seems to be to imitate Forza Horizon if they're just going to end up being slightly different or worse versions of it.
No, the game doesn't lack fidelity, it lacks style. It feels worse because everything is so cold, saturated and corporate looking. There's zero flare to it.
The small amount of cars from Asia is such a strange decision, especially considering they have a massive dealership dedicated to it where they just display the same two cars in different locations 😂 And then there's the progression, the always online, and various other things holding the game back. This is actually a fully fledged TDU game in that it has a really promising map which they've ruined by bad game design decisions.
"Doesn't quite live up to its predecessors" is quite the understatement considering the game has been unplayable since launch, because they decided always online was the route to go. Incompetency at its finest.
@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318 It was completely unplayable for the first couple days on all platforms, couldn't log in, and when I did finally manage to get in, the races would put me in an infinite loading screen. After that, I was okay with just cruising the map with my boyfriend, but the friends list and invites did not work. We couldn't play together, we couldn't do races, there was no way to actually play the game. We refunded. We'll come back when the game is in a deep sale, if it ever gets fixed.
It’s so jarring seeing a giant modern dense city with no pedestrians walking around. It feels like they just forgot to add people to the city but you can find people in the hotel and clubs which is weird.
It has an Alfa Romeo MiTo though 👀 The environment in general looks super pretty and I like the city setting but this is definitely one I'm going to wait for some more patches and a big sale before buying myself. I'm especially relying on the Devs to implement fixes for the optimisation and servers, I was fully expecting some server issues at launch but definitely not as bad as it actually was. The optimisation seems to be barely changed from the Demo despite what the Devs claiming it was an outdated build which is very discouraging unfortunately. Outside of fixes though I do hope they change their mind on the region locked servers too. It's quite possibly the most stupid idea for a modern game I've ever encountered especially considering that online is the focus of this title. The only thing I can think of in support of the region locked servers is a means to help with the load at launch and the weeks after but we all know that has already been a colossal failure. I also really dislike the depreciating rewards for repeating races, its cool to have a bonus for the first time and then a slightly lower amount afterwards but having it constantly decrease every time just discourages me from actually playing the game and doing the races I like. I do hope that despite the relatively poor reception to the game's launch it gets the support it deserves to improve the experience and then bring more varied content. My biggest fear with this title is that Nacon decide to cut their losses and reduce investment in the game's development or even cancel future plans completely.
had nothing against the MiTo itself but why in the God's name the models we're as accurate as Forza with JDM cars such as Nissan Silvia S15 this is more apparent with cars like Audi Q7, VW Beetle, Ford Mustang Fastback, Nissan GT-R R35 (CBA), Ferrari Enzo, and the infamous Mercedes SLK 55 AMG R171, where like I said, their models we're as impeccable as Forza when it comes to older cars
Well if the online only aspects or outreagously high system requirements weren't a deal breaker, the lack of JDMs definitely is. While it's fitting for a game made in europe to feature mostly european cars, only THREE japanese cars in a car game is completly insane to me, super cars are soulless to me. Back to Assetto.
> 3 Asian Cars > 1 happens to be hailing from the Middle East (Fenyr Supersport) > the GT-R we get in TDUSC is deprecated so hard yet priced as much as a mid class supercars like Ferrari 812 Superfast for example
Japanese cars are overrated and this is coming from a guy with a 240Z an S14 Silvia and an RX-7 Spirit R so you should maybe trust me now if you don't mind me I'm off to drive my G wagon in TDU SC
With the Stikes going on right nao, Im not surprised about hearing the the lack of quality. These devs were treated like crap and here is the result. Sad it doesnt work on the steam deck. I hope that this game doesnt wind up dead before it can actually get the chance....
Leveling takes hours, modding your car can result in Loading Save Game loops until you fix your game in steam, Disconnects, “Failed to save” message popping up every 20 seconds (especially fun in races), Graphics and reflections that are not only unrealistic but also buggy, bad optimization, 2000 different variants of the Audi R8 instead of other cars and brands, NPC’s don’t know hot to take corners in free roam and just drive into oncoming traffic, XP sometimes not being added to your level and the list goes on… this game needs a TON of work to be remotely called “Fun” Bonus : Online only so if the game servers will eventually close there will be no way to play it … NICEEEE
The truth is that this map would be perfect for an illegal street racing game, not for TDU, which had a giant paradise island as its DNA. This game misses fundamental things that differentiated TDU from the competition
Its such a shame for the way the game was launched with its server problems but besides that I find the game super fun and I'm actually addicted. Im getting the same vibes from tdusc as I did when forza horizon 2 came out.
Thats the thing, if feels like forza. Every AAA racing game released these days feels like a dogshit clone OF Forza. Online Only and Microtransactions/Season Passes Forced Multiplayer Dogshit Matchmaking No houses Obby looking bland "Festival-Themed/Inspired" "Season Update/Drip-Feeding due to incomplete mess and bugs" Mid as fukk story (ChatGPT could generate a better plotline) Honestly, I give up.
hey, just so you know, that "comically large shadow" at 8:20 ish is because of the game's implementation of temporal anti-aliasing (including temporal upscalers like dlss, fsr 2) lots of games have similar artifacting issues due to the same tech
i mean, this is what I kinda hate the most about games nowadays. i was reaaaally excited about this, i loved TDU as a kid so much, but dont even try to tell me that this game is supposed to be TDU, and dont even try to tell me that this is anywhere close to being finished so basically we waited all this time just to find out that maybe, in a couple of years, maybe this game will be "alright" i guess
Regarding the car list and the high roller life style theme, I`d argue that they have plenty of opportunities not only to add the likes of Lexus, Saleen and Cadilac (assuming there are none ingame), but with how expensive and colectable they are nowadays, they could add plenty of american cars from the 60s onwards (stuff like mustangs, camaros, chevelles and GTOs, chargers and challangers, the hemi cuda, the Daytona and superbird, or maybe the Dodge lil red express, the grand national, the various generations of corvettes and vipers, ect) or your now ultra collectable JDM heroes (like the various Skylines, the Impreza 22B, The Supra, the FC and FD RX7, some of the rarer Evos, and so many other rare JDM cars I`m blanking on). Not having a varied car list that takes both from various eras and from various regions is a massive missed opportunity, because it allows to cater to more people`s tastes, but it also allows for more even veriety, with events being either restricted or themed by country, by era, by class, ect... I`m not going to say that it`s a deal breaker to have a car list comprised mostly of euro cars, but I will say that given the situation, I`ll probably own VAG cars almost exclusively (so Audi, Porsche and Lamborghini, Bentley if any are in the game, and Bugatti if I wver get that far in), and the GTR, obviously. My starter will also most likely be the 370z.
They really fucked it up. 13 years. Dropped promises 13 years ago and a total disappointment 13 years later. I can confidently say they're not getting a penny from me and I'm done with the TDU series. Worst part? Not a surprise, given everything about the modern gaming model is fucking worthless to the consumer and caters investors over anything. Fuck em.
People was only saying that because of Forza fanboys trashing the game before release they were just defending the game but even in this state it’s the best game PlayStation players ever had as Forza Horizon rival it’s right on par in detail but as far as optimization it’s not there yet
@@redhunnid5142 this game on consoles is not close to Forza Horizon 5 in terms of graphics detail or optimisation. The console versions of Solar Crown don't come close to PC, it look worse than some 360 and Xbox One games. It barely even functions online. It has a metacritic score for PS5 of 50/100, 40/100 user score, and 2.07 out of 5 on the PS Store. How can you say this when Crew Motorfest is on PS5? And even that isnt as good as Horizon 5 in some few aspects, though it comes much closer.
That's the problem. If it says TDU on the box, I want TDU and nothing else. The rest of the game can be as good as it wants to be. They promised a TDU but didn't deliver. That's another trend I hate. Not just with games. Taking a well-known franchise and making something completely different out of it...
I have to be honest: I'm having tons of fun with the game. The AI is a bit unfair, but that's how it used to be in arcade racers of the 00s, where sometimes you had to play a race a few times to overcome AI rubberbanding and win. The game does not just gift you with dozens of cars right away, so purchasing them feels special and well-earned. There's little character customization at the start, but you earn more through winning races, again, making it feel rewarding. This might seem like I'm defending grind, but so far, there's been enough races constantly being introduced for it to never feel like I had to drive one over and over just to get money. The city is a joy to drive around. The DNA of "let's just explore for an hour" is very much preserved: there's tons of random rewards sprinkled around the map, sometimes in unusual places. The main criticisms I have against this game are: the map is way too small, and the cars are too old and few in number. I don't know whether I lucked out with the server or what, but I've only got disconnected and kicked back to the main menu once in 10 hours of playing. I've never had a server issue interrupt a race (although I've seen other players fail to finish with a "disconnected" next to their name). The infamous "Login error" screen I've seen just once, and the only thing I had to do was to press "ok" and wait 5 seconds, after which everything worked as it should have done. Finally. The "always online" aspect is garbage. If you weren't anxiously waiting for this game since 2011, probably best to wait a bit more and not buy it until the devs finally see reason and understand how much more money and brand loyalty they would get if they introduced an offline mode. The game clearly has one built in already. The core mechanics are robust. The campaign is long. The driving physics, as arcade racers go, are top-notch. There's a great game there, but I fear the damage has been already done by the botched launch.
It might just be me but the driving mechanics are a make or break thing for me. Right now, it just looks like a car is stationary and the road is being pulled underneath it like a 90s handheld game. Trying to give the illusion that the car is moving. The car is also turning left and right a huge amount at all speeds, when turning. You have to go forward when turning. Here it looks like the car travels half a meter and has already turned 90 degrees. I love playing gta iv for its car mechanics alone and couldn’t continue playing GTA v after completing the story because of the car mechanics. I love the speedometer’s look and the map turquoise and the island idea and everything. Graphics on the car look good. It just looks like its built on a gaming engine meant for demos and not triple aaas. Either that or they haven’t bothered to make the game any good. They changed the driving mechanics recently but thats not a good thing. The huge change tells me they got the most important part of the game wrong and made a big change to it. Doesn’t seem refined at all. Maybe they can refine this now but this should have been done at least 3 years ago.
Translated by Google: What driving games need is "cities" but big, dense cities. It's quite annoying that in other driving games one part is city while the rest is empty. It's fine to add vegetation, mountains, forests, towns, etc. to give variety to the map, but what we want are cities. Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown along with CarX Street both have large, dense cities.
Was excited for this game, after what I've been hearing, gonna have to pass on this. If they want to milk the customers after they purchase a mediocre racing game, no thanks, who do you think they are, EA.
Sad thing is, none of today's open world racing games go for driving realism.... We've been racing through non-existent light gates through the streets for the last 30+ years. Remember the original Test Drive from 1987?? Just two cars on an open road racing each other. Back then it was the right direction, and it should be today. But now everything is made for fckn 8yo kids.....
I think TDU is going to be one of those games that I buy when it's on sale a year or two after launch, assuming the game makes it that long. There is a handful of turn-offs for me, but most of all the online requirement and seemingly forced PvP experience(s) are the biggest reasons why I won't be buying at launch.
It's been an interesting experience so far, I feel like my money wasn't wasted on the pre-order. Definitely a challenging game to complete, wait until you see the tasks at Level 60,lol
I really hope the late game income increases somewhat, I’ve just unlocked the hypercars and figured out I’ll need to do 400+ races just to afford the one I’d like to use…
i was so excited for this ever since they first announced it, however after trying the test build from a few months back and seeing how it is now it just makes me sad. This game is a cruel joke and another confirmation that a lot of modern games don't know what they're doing and don't care about it either as long as it rakes in cash. Say what you will about CarX street and it's AI stuff which was not cool, at least the game ran somewhat well and i had fun with it and still do, for now TDU solar crown is a hard pass and i doubt that that will change, Always online already made me iffy and there's not really much to the game that could outweigh that con for me since it's not like the game really even is all that good so far and the things they've announced just feel like padding and them trying to dish up an under baked pie and call it finished. It's just such a sad thing to behold
Making a modern game that’s region locked is a JOKE. They better fix that. I played with my friends across the pond on TDU2 but I can’t do that now? Trash.
All they had to do was refine the formula TDU2 had started, no pseudo-futuristic themes or always online GAAS bullshit.
Well good thing is they have got all the time to do just that because unlike the last two games, they can update this one.(Assuming it doesn't flop)
@@Issam-od4pg Games could be updated and patched before live service became a thing, what they can't do however is fix the horrendous first impression.
@@SarcasticTentacle I didn't say they can update because it's a live service game, I just said they can update it period unlike the other two which didn't get many updates at all, and idk the steam reviews are starting to shift towards positive slowly, if they don't let this happen again for the full launch they might still be okay
Because that’s the modern era. That is the modern era just disappointment.
The old formula wasn’t built for DLCs and micro transactions
>Battle Pass
>Game as a Service model
>Always online format
>ROADMAP!!!
>Server shut down means end of the game
>"It will be good in 2 years!"
Yeah uhm... No. Im out.
The Crew Motorfest and NFS are doing the same thing, yet barely anyone complains. It’s the publishers that do stuff like this, not the developers.
Exactly. Im not waiting for the game to get good. They have had plenty of time
@@PlanetThrill i'm not buying those either .. like i can play nfs:hs or porsche unleashed in 2024 with some modern fixes and i payed ONCE for them and then played more than 3k hours each over the years ... oh and i can leave them legacy to my kids for some retro stuff for them .. i can't pay 50 euros for 2 years of bad game .. i'd rather play tdu1 offline with my install media and some patches and it's another yet better game than this that feels like just another frostbite generic nfs game with a little bad handling to make the game feel more midway between arcade and sim :)
@@PlanetThrill yeah those games aren't exactly thriving either. If you're guna put a battle pass in a game, it better be free imo. Battle pass in a paid game is insane.
@@PlanetThrill Uh, a lot of people were complaining about both NFS Unbound and Motorfest on day one. Players were pointing towards the lack of content in both games (though unfairly-so with Unbound imo) with Motorfest being the worst example in recent years.
The same was being told about The Crew 2 by the way.
Do we live in the same reality?
TDU SC
- no mmo elements
- tiny lobbies on a huge map
- barely any character customization or stores
- no houses
- no special deliveries
- no casino
this doesn't feel like a tdu game
houses, special events and casino will be added later! They want to support this game for years! This game can make you 1000 times happier than a new freakin need for speeds or something else I dunno!
@@YourShame let's be honest here: having houses etc at launch would do little from preventing TDUSC for being the Concord of racing games.
@@YourShame Who told you this? Just wondering where you got this from because if that is the case I may be getting the game in the near future.
That's because it's not
@@uvannaveen8237I think it's straight from the devs
TDU, featuring: Limited time test drives, Limited time without the game booting you, Unlimited time spent in queue
ha good one.. this is solar crown limited
@@t3truedesignssolar clown.
@@supercrash131 youre a child protecting a game? go somewhere
@@t3truedesigns what? I'm making fun of the name, solar crown as solar clown.
@@supercrash131 thought you were calling me that forgive me
For a game that takes place in east asia, it sure has an small amount of asian cars (close to none even)
Hands down that is the argument for sure
Yep! It's even weirder when you notice that most of the traffic cars are Ford Raptors and Audi TTs as well
@@Nords_e87_130i
Game makes a big deal being based in Hong Kong a country that drives on the left.
And not a single RHD variant of any of the cars on the list.
@@HokiHoshi 💀
If this is a realistic HK, Teslas would be in abundance. Haha
Remember, once the servers shut down you will end up owning memories.
Memories of the horrible launch day you mean
In other words, just play TDU Platinum.
@@TautBrigasor play a good game from a good franchise like NFS, Burnout or Forza.
@@SHVRWKor Crew Motorfest
Oh dude.. nothing hit me harder than when EA announced they were sunsetting the Battlefield 3 servers. Just cemented a real apathy in me about trying new games.. Ones with online components at least.
Remember when we had a plethora of solid open world racing games? It's almost hard to blame Forza Horizon for being pretty lazy the past two releases, with the lack of good competition these days
Horizon 4 seasonality is still unmatched anywhere. The music and campaign dropped off earlier though
At this point I'm sick of open worlds. Give me like several mid-sized worlds like Midnight Club 3. Heck just gimme a new Midnight club because modern NFS ain't cutting it
this game seriously went from 10/10 hype before the demo, to 6/10 then, and 3/10 after release lmao
It's 6/10 on steam atm
Which Demo you talk about?...Oh you mean PC only...PS5 and Xbox where left out!...we did have the oppertunity for a playable Beta,but that came in the form of a pre-order.
it's a generic 2024 racing game nothing special .. and who cares about consoles anyway, mark? nobody
@@MultiNakirpeople with consoles care about consoles. Not everyone has or wants a PC.
ALL they had to do was remaster TDU1 and/or 2. NO ONE would’ve complained about getting those exact games with just modernized graphics & updated physics…
True.
Average fanboy behavoir, screaming for a new sequel to their favourite games only to end up saying that the old ones were better lmao
@@t.k3579
Nah, I always preferred a remaster of those 2 over a new tdu (mainly cuz I knew they’d never be able to make anything better). But still, I wouldn’t have minded a new sequel if they hadn’t effed it up so badly.
@@CarsOverPeoplenah you just blinded by nostalgia don’t confuse the 2.
@@t.k3579 Relax kid, no need to generalise.
Review on point. How did they have pedestrians in The Crew which is 10 years old but in new games it's too much effort? How are we still limited by the same lobby and group sizes as 15 years ago?
If they wanna make it so online focused, then it should be properly implemented. Cross play, no region lock, at least 16 player lobbies and 8 player groups. Throw some fun side missions in (remember the location reveal trailer right at the end, when the camera panned out from the trunk of an Aston with a suitcase in it?) and a police system and you have a great game!
I personally really enjoy it already but i obviously really hope for the studio to keep updating this game with said content. FH needs a competitor!
Perfectly said
This is definitely one of those games where I'm gonna wait for a big sale a couple years down the road after they've actually finished the game
It’s ridiculous that you have to say “actually finished the game” in the first place. How lazy and disappointing the video game industry has gotten.
same hope they fix the grinding issue too by then
By that time they may already shut down the servers.
@@Dregomz02 Exactly what I wanted to comment as well. I will avoid it for shure, unfortunately I speend soo much time on TDU1 and 2 on the old 360, I really wanted a good successor. Well that did not work out.
Lost the TDU DNA, lifeless map, abysmal performance und well aged graphics, freaking battle passes coming and that always onlibe bs that does not even work from the beginning
Good on you, I was planning that but bought it the other day to support the devs 🙌
TDU SC will go down as the biggest self sabotage in racing game history.
KT had everything needed for a successful racing game. They had a passionate fanbase.
Instead, they proceeded to do the polar opposite of what everyone expected.
The game was revealed over 4 years before it released (equivalent of revealing Assassin's Creed Unity after Brotherhood).
It was almost considered a vapourware for more than 3 years before they finally revealed gameplay in the worst way possible.
KT saw that The Crew 1 vanished from the face of the Earth after 9 years and 4 months (which also includes getting delisted from players' libraries), yet they still insisted on keeping that always online DRM.
KT somehow managed to make the map feel more empty than the map of an 18 year old racing game originally made for 360 that was also available on PS2.
Game also runs at only 1080p when performance mode is chosen, and Series S doesn't even have performance mode.
If it wasn't for Alex VII, most of us would've lost interest in this game a long time ago. Alex VII cares more about TDU SC than the publishers and developers themselves.
It's a miracle that this game even managed to end up of players' hands.
What's Alex 7
@@zmmmzmmmzthis guy's has been promoting this game a lot he even showcases the supposed finished build like he's having all the backdoor access to KT's offices
Really the best analysis of this UTTER FLOP game that could've been one of the best ever and it turned out completely opposite. Real shame and still can't understand all these gamers enjoying and praising it...
@@suljo00Because it's actually a good game.
It is a miracle the game even shipped. I wouldn't blame KT as much as you did. Given they're going on strike against Nacon as the game is released, I wonder how much crap they had to put up with from their publisher.
“TDU 1 and 2 were so ahead of its time”.
Just like those games TDU Solar Crown is a product of its time.
Whereas the 2010s (and prior of course) had games actually had effort put into them, now it’s just another intellectual property to collect digital dust. And dust it will collect given that it’s an always online game.
The only way I’d imagine these companies to put effort into their games again is if there’d be another video game crash like the 80’s.
Basically it’s like any other racing game being released today and they’re using the TD brand to sell copies.
tdu solar shi is so behind of its time, 10 year old forza horizon 2 is better than this
@@dazzaMusicyou are right on the money.
Sad but true...vote with your wallets folks😉
I was skeptical since the closed playtests and I feel justified now. My experience in the demo was as such: discover roads and pickups in starter car, buy a classic 'Stang and the DB11, complete discovery... and then it felt like I've seen everything. Racing is not very compelling and outside that there is only cruising - both of which I cannot do with friends due to region lock and pitiful group size. And it seems nothing has changed in full release.
Major performance issues also seem here to stay. Severe lack of JDM cars in freaking HONG KONG of all places is just a kick in the nuts.
The whole package has this clinical, corporate, checking-boxes feel to it. Got map, got cars, got racing events, got a little bit of story to it. But where's the soul, the vision? Horizon with all its shortcomings still has a unique atmosphere to it. Hell, even a game like CarX Street with the BS AI filler, and underwhelming handling, and mobile roots has heaps more style and flair than Solar Crown, and actually feels like made by people who are into cars.
Honestly this will just be a pass for me. I'm not interested in casinos or crew battles and I feel like nothing they can add on top of v1.0 will offset the missing backbone.
Very well said
I drive around aimlessly in TDU2 and have fun not my fault you have unreasonable expectations
@@toyotacorollaaltis8613 Thanks! I like a good laugh to start the day with
I started playing TDU 2 recently after like 10 years and I realize how much I love that game even with it's flaws. It's more enjoyable than TDU SC with so much more things to do in the game world. At this point I'd love just a remaster of TDU 2 with better handling.
You can literally take pictures in the game and hang them up in your house for bloody sakes in TDU 2 which is incredible....it's both amazing and I'm grateful that will always have TDU 1 and 2 masterpieces, and also annoyed that they refuse or are incapable of simply making a new one with the exact same amazing perfect features.....I have to assume it's pure incompetence or deliberate subversion at this point because it simply makes no sense for games 10-20 years old to be objectively better then stuff now across the board. All they needed to do was have a real life location/map/ fully explorable/ place dealerships and clothing stores around the map/ modification shops/ have championship off and on road races/ licenses tests places/ and the ability to buy houses that are customizable of all types all around the island that have garages and etc. that's literally all they needed to do and instead they did essentially none of that. It simply makes no sense, and as crazy as I may sound well if ideology/agendas/and subversion is infesting Movies and tv shows now even to the point of knowingly sacrificing maximum financial gains....then have to assume a similar thing is taking place in the video game industry as well.
Test drive limited. That's exactly what it feels like compared to the last two TDUs
The sad part is... they really didn't have to do all that much. They could pretty much re-done what was already there in previous installments. But nope. Add Always-Online and... eh. And I had some hopes for it.
Thanks for the review, it was really nicely done visually and was informative as well.
A real life location map that is at least comparable in size to TDU parts 1 and 2, island full of car dealership's/ clothing stores/ tune up/decal etc. shops/ houses that are fully customizable around the island to buy, garages to interact with at said houses, license tests/ off road and normal championships, all the cool side missions like picking up hitchhikers etc. etc. that's all they had to do, instead basically we get none of that.
I absolutely hate the fact that I'm forced to do races with other people. I just wanna play this game in peace!!
Exactly right?! Only the thought of having to race against other people stresses me tf out. Life is so competitive in any aspect these days I just wanna kick back and do some relaxed races against AI and not have to worry about competing and giving it all, all the time...
You can skip waiting to play with others and just race AI.
@@slimjim35 there is still a time window for the game to throw you in a lobby. Altough it is not big
They could of futurized TDU 1 and 2 and do the silly clan thing and kept houses and it would of been a hit, because its so different from whats out there!!! I was so excited . I played the demo for hours.. but something was missing.. TDU is missing.. TDU is missing. They should call this SOLAR CROWN LIMITED
Thank you for mentioning the radio. Didn't see anyone mention the lack of it so far.
I guess the list is full of the things that previous games had or did better...
I used to enjoy the music so much, and the witty commercials full of sarcasm would always get me 😂
Your driving footage is very satisfying to look at and I can’t wait to play the game, when it gets a bit more polished!
9:40 that's wild. They made it always online and yet it's limited to 8 players lobbies.
16:46 I played Crazy Taxi on Dreamcast the other day. Why does a 25 year old game can fill an open city with people and cars on the road at locked 60FPS on a 100$ console but TDU on a 4080 can't?
I feel you! I've been playing through Midnight Club 3 & LA recently and those games both have lively cities filled with pedestrians and dense traffic. Rockstar definitely knows how to create a world.
I think there's often too big of a focus on making sure games are pretty screenshot simulators that look good in marketing, instead of focusing on the actual player experience. It's all about cranking up the graphics to sell something shiny instead of creating vibrant worlds and filling them with content.
@HokiHoshi Blame the people who are like, "please remove the pedestrian cars, they're in the way for Freeroam!"
@astreakaito5625...i also bet you didn't have any issue's according stickdrift on your 25 year old controller,sinds Sega used Hall sensor technology
TDU SC is actually completely unfixable. They made a massive blunder immediately making a TDU game, they made it so your cars are in a menu and you can have infinite cars and just decide which ones to put on display. Thats not TDU thats Forza. I loved that every car in TDU2 mattered to me, i worked hard for them, my first Ferrari etc. you had to buy a new garage to store more cars but every car felt like YOUR car. This can never be fixed in TDU SC because if they do fix it, theyll have to take cars away from people and theyd never do that.
There is genuinely no other creator whose opinion on racing games I respect more than yours. I really appreciate videos like this, it plays a huge factor on if I buy certain games.
Even though I’ve bought the game and play it, I was still looking forward to this review. No flashy words or heightened emotions, just straight and to the point. An honest look and something with potential. Hokohoshi is the absolute best person to review a game like this.
@RidgeRunner4501 would this game classify as a Worth a Buy?🤔
@@markvanwalsem3201 Not at the moment wait until the end of October or November or Christmas if you want to wait longer for a sale probably but give this game a month or two
The only reason I was hyped for TDU was due to the lifestyle element it had in previous games. The rags to riches lifestyle. Not starting the game in a super car but having to work for it. If that isn’t the case why would I not just play The Crew or Forza? With no Properties, no real customization and no out of race focus it just ain’t a TDU game imo.
Exactly. They left out almost everything that made TDU unique. I also loved TDU because of the things you described. There is no reason for me to buy this game. It's a shame because racing games have become more and more bland in recent years. A proper TDU would have been a great addition to the market...
I can confirm that you have spoken for all of us brother, this game is not TDU
YOUR STARTER CAR IN TDU2 IS WORTH MORE THAN SUPERCARS A LANCIA DELTA AIN'T CHEAP YA KNOW
@@toyotacorollaaltis8613 not in that game. u got busted up used versions at the start. you started with like 20 grand which was reasonable
@@blankblank1257 The odometer was AT ZERO IT WAS BRAND NEW and also in no world even if its the bare shell thats also crashed is a Lancia Delta going for 20 grand
the emptiness aspect was my biggest gripe of the gameworld. low traffic density and no pedestrians on such a densely populated island? especially with such wide streets, it feels so alienating. you feel like a survivor of a zombie apocalypse
Man I’m just going to say the traffic it’s there I don’t get the point about low traffic density it’s almost impossible to drive fast without swerving through traffic
As if TDU 2 didn’t feel empty and lifeless?
@@PlanetThrill that game is thirteen years old and way bigger
Outside of Midnight Club, LA Rush and Burnout, most games don’t have traffic.
@@FR0Z0NEkeys Don't forget CarX Street which allows you to toggle the traffic density
So many genres and franchises are in their golden age right now, and I feel like racing games are at their darkest of dark ages currently. Games as a service completely destroyed the single player racing game...
Hong Kong during COVID 🤣🤣
I was thinking the same, it does fit into the theme of the ‘solar crown’ hiring out the entire island but it fits it too well and I don’t think that leads to a fun driving environment
in my opinion, they confused the game's main focus by combining many things from their competitors. TDU was all about the unique experience which we dont get in the usual racing games as it revolves around the lifestyle point of racers. But, they did not put much effort into these areas and focused solely on beating their competitors which is not a bad thing but the game loses its uniqueness during the process. We lost garages, player houses and other features that are so unique and made earlier TDU games very popular. We do not want plenty of races or offroad challenges, we want a game where we can drive the cars at slow pace and enjoy the car's features like roof mechanism or traffic driving while looking at the scenery. even though garages and houses are returning soon, TDU already reached a critical state which makes both features almost pointless as the game never logs us in the first place. i am a little disappointed by the clunky handling of the game than its optimisation. As being a racing game fan, i really hoped this game would directly compete with FH5 for the crown. these are all my opinions and i apologise if my assumptions are not correct. hope they fix the game soon before it hits rock bottom. apologise for writing a full book as a comment😂😂
there is no meaningful progression for you to make as a player either, you're immediately a guest in a rich hotel that pays for itself. why even bother with houses? TDU2 started you off in a shitty trailer. that gave you a motivation to not only get better cars, but also raise your own status to higher levels.
@@KankaWasTaken the progression is in buying better cars and leveling and ranking up. The progression is fine
@@KankaWasTaken yep agree. the only status that is raising now is the server status😂😂
@@KankaWasTaken No it didn't and stop lying you and I did it cause we had nothing better to do and found it fun there was never "motivation" its a video game not real life
For a game that was probably in development for about 5 years, I was expecting more.
I cant understand how they managed to do so much wrong. What are devs these days doing? They had the answers to the test and still failed. I was so excited for this game….its just a shame.
Let’s see what happens in 6 months time. We’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. It’s not looking good at all. Needing to be online really hurts. Let’s see. I was going to buy a next gen console just for this game but won’t be doing that at the moment.
Map is wide as a sea, deep as a puddle
I'm kinda glad I held off and instead picked up the OG TDU and TDU 2 (your video helped push me to finally give it a try).
Def a wait for a good sale game for Solar Crown by the looks of it
Everything feels off with the game. The UI looks to generic, cheesy/awkward cutscenes/voices, not so great character customization, poorly optimized, graphics could use a revamp, and everything looking futuristic/techy. It might seem like im hating on this game but I really want it to be great. I just feel like the game doesn’t have that essence like the other tdus. It was always the small details that made tdu what it is.I also wish that they would add satellite style maps with music similar to tdu2 to the game.
Always online. That'll be a no then. I was hoping it would be more TDU2.
“Pregression wall” in a full price, non mmo game is wild.
10:55 lol check out that artifacting above their heads
Yep 😂 happened in all the cutscenes
I'll be honest, every racing game nowadays is always, for some godforsaken reason, trying to be a Forza Horizon game and this suffers from the same fate. Another thing I wanted to point out is that the car list feels... outdated. There's like 5 cars from 2021 or later. In my opinion, there should've atleast been something like a GR86, Ferrari 296/F8/SF90, 2024 Mustang just to name a few, but you can go on and on about this.
They should get an award for achieving the impossible: making Hong Kong look boring
Tokyo Xtreme Racer was announced and is now the hope for the non triple a racing game future. Hopefully Genki cooks up something great
Isn't TXR just racing on Japanese highways? I can see that being a good game but that idea is pretty stale.
compared to its main rivals like forza and motorfest the car list is sad i love to see some american suvs and off roads trucks like bronco raptor and i loved to have seen some early 2000 cars and 1980 and 1990 cars i do like some part of the car like sound when they start thier engines but i do hear they have plans of adding body kits and aero down the line i do love the massive map of hki also some cars sadly have forza style copy paste engine sounds hki map compared to forza is so much better but would i reckomend the game not at this moment maybe down the line
After playing both, I got a refund for TDUSU and kept CarX Street. It's only $22 compared to $80+ for TDUSU and somehow, it can look just as good as and even in some occasions better than TDUSU without the need of a super computer even though it is essentially an upscaled mobile game. CarX Street doesn't have pedestrians either but can feel alive due to VERY HIGH traffic density which is also adjustable to your liking. The map is better overall as well as it somehow feels much bigger even though it's actually smaller. WAYYYY more customization as well as event types and things to do like delivery missions, car delivery missions, time trials, leaderboards, etc. It just has proper vibes (especially at night) that we haven't seen since the NFS Underground/Midnight Club days of the early 2000's. Legit feels like a mash of NFS Underground 2, Midnight Club and Juiced. Even though it's also an always online game (which I hate), they at least had the decency to add a "offline" mode which is essentially a solo mode for solo players to enjoy the game at their own pace aka no queing for races ever. Such a shame as I was one of the defenders of TDUSU before launch and even after the beta demo but man they REALLY blew it IMO.
Test Drive Limited AF ,the map of roads is incredible and would be usable with 'Import 3 of yo Forza motors to hoon the shreddage' with next update.
Finally a review talking about the gameplay and not yappin about the server issues
I’m not picking up TDUSC. I’ll keep it on my wishlist, and maybe in a year or so if they’ve updated it a lot, I might pick it up on a big steam sale.
But after playing the demo, honestly the game just isn’t that great and the release doesn’t look any better.
I criticized another channel for giving this a slight recommendation, and I'm shocked to see you doing it too. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I feel its a cash grab nowhere near what was promised. The Steam reviews reflect my experience - even without technical issues it doesn't seem halfway ready for release. But I concede that it could just be fun anyway for some people
Totally agree. Had a server issue when I was trying to buy a car, logged in the next day and I had 2 Audi's and apparently no way to get rid of one of them. I was honestly completely baffled when I found out there is no way to get rid of cars.
The game is broken and should be ashamed for recommending it to anyone wo talking ab all the issues. Paid shill for sure.
I disagree with Hoki's take and actually agree with yours, but calling him a shill for taking a rosier view on things says a lot less about him than it does about you.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 So not mentioning all the problems while talking ab all the great things is the def of shill
This is literally like TDU2 its started out bad and will hopefully get better say what you want I am not willing to admit this game is gonna stay like this
From what I've noticed, the PS5 version runs like it's a PS4 and if we're talking about failed ports, it could also launch it on PS4 because it's already obvious that you can't say that PS5 doesn't have the power to run the game, it's just poorly optimized. And that's still true on PS4 too
It's crazy that the reflections on the cars are so bad...
The tuning features surprised me, if it wasn’t there that would be a dealbreaker for me as most cars are geared too long out of the box.
Well all cars are tuned for street first these days. Heck my R33 GTR did 180 km/h in 3rd gear. My Civic Type R really needed to shift to make it move, no point and shooting. Can’t remember which modern Porsche I saw but it did like 120 km/h in 2nd gear.
A racing game being always on is an instant no for me despite how fun it might be
that's exactly why I roll my eyes on games like The Crew 1 and NFS 2015 like plague back in the day, and showed little interest with Driveclub due to being one of those games that can be played offline at that time
The biggest problem for me with this new TDU is that it gives literally zero reasons to play this over Horizon, the same as The Crew Motorfest. These are all open world carfest racing games with almost no differences. If it at least had some more elements similar to the old TDUs I'd be more interested in it. Idk why all of these open world racing games goal seems to be to imitate Forza Horizon if they're just going to end up being slightly different or worse versions of it.
it has xbox 360 graphics
and recommended graphics card is an RTX 2080
this game is literally just devs trolling us
No, the game doesn't lack fidelity, it lacks style. It feels worse because everything is so cold, saturated and corporate looking. There's zero flare to it.
The small amount of cars from Asia is such a strange decision, especially considering they have a massive dealership dedicated to it where they just display the same two cars in different locations 😂
And then there's the progression, the always online, and various other things holding the game back.
This is actually a fully fledged TDU game in that it has a really promising map which they've ruined by bad game design decisions.
"Doesn't quite live up to its predecessors" is quite the understatement considering the game has been unplayable since launch, because they decided always online was the route to go. Incompetency at its finest.
Agreed
Unplayable on pc? Because its been working fine on ps5.
@@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318 especially awful on PS5 lol
@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318 It was completely unplayable for the first couple days on all platforms, couldn't log in, and when I did finally manage to get in, the races would put me in an infinite loading screen. After that, I was okay with just cruising the map with my boyfriend, but the friends list and invites did not work. We couldn't play together, we couldn't do races, there was no way to actually play the game. We refunded. We'll come back when the game is in a deep sale, if it ever gets fixed.
@@SyanTheNeko Exactly this, this is problem many people have been having it's not acceptable and that's why I'm glad I didn't pre-order this.
It’s so jarring seeing a giant modern dense city with no pedestrians walking around. It feels like they just forgot to add people to the city but you can find people in the hotel and clubs which is weird.
what i extremely hate is the lack of vehicles with right side driving.
Hello? is hong kong, what's up with that?
It has an Alfa Romeo MiTo though 👀
The environment in general looks super pretty and I like the city setting but this is definitely one I'm going to wait for some more patches and a big sale before buying myself.
I'm especially relying on the Devs to implement fixes for the optimisation and servers, I was fully expecting some server issues at launch but definitely not as bad as it actually was. The optimisation seems to be barely changed from the Demo despite what the Devs claiming it was an outdated build which is very discouraging unfortunately.
Outside of fixes though I do hope they change their mind on the region locked servers too. It's quite possibly the most stupid idea for a modern game I've ever encountered especially considering that online is the focus of this title.
The only thing I can think of in support of the region locked servers is a means to help with the load at launch and the weeks after but we all know that has already been a colossal failure.
I also really dislike the depreciating rewards for repeating races, its cool to have a bonus for the first time and then a slightly lower amount afterwards but having it constantly decrease every time just discourages me from actually playing the game and doing the races I like.
I do hope that despite the relatively poor reception to the game's launch it gets the support it deserves to improve the experience and then bring more varied content. My biggest fear with this title is that Nacon decide to cut their losses and reduce investment in the game's development or even cancel future plans completely.
Imagine playing so many races that the game stops paying you outright because the depreciation reached the max to payouts of 0 Cr.
had nothing against the MiTo itself but why in the God's name the models we're as accurate as Forza with JDM cars such as Nissan Silvia S15
this is more apparent with cars like Audi Q7, VW Beetle, Ford Mustang Fastback, Nissan GT-R R35 (CBA), Ferrari Enzo, and the infamous Mercedes SLK 55 AMG R171, where like I said, their models we're as impeccable as Forza when it comes to older cars
Well if the online only aspects or outreagously high system requirements weren't a deal breaker, the lack of JDMs definitely is. While it's fitting for a game made in europe to feature mostly european cars, only THREE japanese cars in a car game is completly insane to me, super cars are soulless to me. Back to Assetto.
> 3 Asian Cars
> 1 happens to be hailing from the Middle East (Fenyr Supersport)
> the GT-R we get in TDUSC is deprecated so hard yet priced as much as a mid class supercars like Ferrari 812 Superfast for example
And the map was literally always announced as the next big thing cus it was Hong Kong.. makes it even more questionable as to why theres no JDM cars
Agree but ur a weeb.
Japanese cars are overrated and this is coming from a guy with a 240Z an S14 Silvia and an RX-7 Spirit R so you should maybe trust me now if you don't mind me I'm off to drive my G wagon in TDU SC
@@toyotacorollaaltis8613 Your username and profile picture is a japanese car. Quit coping.
With the Stikes going on right nao, Im not surprised about hearing the the lack of quality. These devs were treated like crap and here is the result. Sad it doesnt work on the steam deck. I hope that this game doesnt wind up dead before it can actually get the chance....
it is sad that the only game that has full steering wheel rotation animation is driver san francisco
Leveling takes hours, modding your car can result in Loading Save Game loops until you fix your game in steam, Disconnects, “Failed to save” message popping up every 20 seconds (especially fun in races), Graphics and reflections that are not only unrealistic but also buggy, bad optimization, 2000 different variants of the Audi R8 instead of other cars and brands, NPC’s don’t know hot to take corners in free roam and just drive into oncoming traffic, XP sometimes not being added to your level and the list goes on… this game needs a TON of work to be remotely called “Fun”
Bonus : Online only so if the game servers will eventually close there will be no way to play it … NICEEEE
The truth is that this map would be perfect for an illegal street racing game, not for TDU, which had a giant paradise island as its DNA. This game misses fundamental things that differentiated TDU from the competition
Its such a shame for the way the game was launched with its server problems but besides that I find the game super fun and I'm actually addicted. Im getting the same vibes from tdusc as I did when forza horizon 2 came out.
Thats the thing, if feels like forza.
Every AAA racing game released these days feels like a dogshit clone OF Forza.
Online Only and Microtransactions/Season Passes
Forced Multiplayer
Dogshit Matchmaking
No houses
Obby looking bland
"Festival-Themed/Inspired"
"Season Update/Drip-Feeding due to incomplete mess and bugs"
Mid as fukk story (ChatGPT could generate a better plotline)
Honestly,
I give up.
Pro tip, if you hate the weird shadow below the car it can be easily fixed by turning off TAA (set FSR 2 to off)
as someone who loves to cruise around in racing/car games, i wish they would do a traffic density feature like how carx street did
Thanks, this is really good for someone who's on the fence on whether to buy it upon release or wait for future updates.
Wow what a perfect description, love ya hoki
hey, just so you know, that "comically large shadow" at 8:20 ish is because of the game's implementation of temporal anti-aliasing (including temporal upscalers like dlss, fsr 2)
lots of games have similar artifacting issues due to the same tech
i mean, this is what I kinda hate the most about games nowadays. i was reaaaally excited about this, i loved TDU as a kid so much, but dont even try to tell me that this game is supposed to be TDU, and dont even try to tell me that this is anywhere close to being finished
so basically we waited all this time just to find out that maybe, in a couple of years, maybe this game will be "alright" i guess
They had one job - give the players an authentic Test Drive experience. This feels like a lazy, disingenuous imitation
Regarding the car list and the high roller life style theme, I`d argue that they have plenty of opportunities not only to add the likes of Lexus, Saleen and Cadilac (assuming there are none ingame), but with how expensive and colectable they are nowadays, they could add plenty of american cars from the 60s onwards (stuff like mustangs, camaros, chevelles and GTOs, chargers and challangers, the hemi cuda, the Daytona and superbird, or maybe the Dodge lil red express, the grand national, the various generations of corvettes and vipers, ect) or your now ultra collectable JDM heroes (like the various Skylines, the Impreza 22B, The Supra, the FC and FD RX7, some of the rarer Evos, and so many other rare JDM cars I`m blanking on). Not having a varied car list that takes both from various eras and from various regions is a massive missed opportunity, because it allows to cater to more people`s tastes, but it also allows for more even veriety, with events being either restricted or themed by country, by era, by class, ect...
I`m not going to say that it`s a deal breaker to have a car list comprised mostly of euro cars, but I will say that given the situation, I`ll probably own VAG cars almost exclusively (so Audi, Porsche and Lamborghini, Bentley if any are in the game, and Bugatti if I wver get that far in), and the GTR, obviously. My starter will also most likely be the 370z.
They really fucked it up. 13 years. Dropped promises 13 years ago and a total disappointment 13 years later. I can confidently say they're not getting a penny from me and I'm done with the TDU series. Worst part? Not a surprise, given everything about the modern gaming model is fucking worthless to the consumer and caters investors over anything. Fuck em.
Is this the new: " your pc is nice but can it run TDU Solar Crown?" Joke?
People really claimed this game could dethrone Forza Horizon lmao
People was only saying that because of Forza fanboys trashing the game before release they were just defending the game but even in this state it’s the best game PlayStation players ever had as Forza Horizon rival it’s right on par in detail but as far as optimization it’s not there yet
@@redhunnid5142 this game on consoles is not close to Forza Horizon 5 in terms of graphics detail or optimisation. The console versions of Solar Crown don't come close to PC, it look worse than some 360 and Xbox One games. It barely even functions online. It has a metacritic score for PS5 of 50/100, 40/100 user score, and 2.07 out of 5 on the PS Store. How can you say this when Crew Motorfest is on PS5? And even that isnt as good as Horizon 5 in some few aspects, though it comes much closer.
That's the problem. If it says TDU on the box, I want TDU and nothing else. The rest of the game can be as good as it wants to be. They promised a TDU but didn't deliver. That's another trend I hate. Not just with games. Taking a well-known franchise and making something completely different out of it...
For the shadow under the car, in other racing games, if you change anti aliasing, that fixes that issue
Each time I quit the game I lose some of my progress.
I have to be honest: I'm having tons of fun with the game. The AI is a bit unfair, but that's how it used to be in arcade racers of the 00s, where sometimes you had to play a race a few times to overcome AI rubberbanding and win.
The game does not just gift you with dozens of cars right away, so purchasing them feels special and well-earned. There's little character customization at the start, but you earn more through winning races, again, making it feel rewarding. This might seem like I'm defending grind, but so far, there's been enough races constantly being introduced for it to never feel like I had to drive one over and over just to get money.
The city is a joy to drive around. The DNA of "let's just explore for an hour" is very much preserved: there's tons of random rewards sprinkled around the map, sometimes in unusual places.
The main criticisms I have against this game are: the map is way too small, and the cars are too old and few in number.
I don't know whether I lucked out with the server or what, but I've only got disconnected and kicked back to the main menu once in 10 hours of playing. I've never had a server issue interrupt a race (although I've seen other players fail to finish with a "disconnected" next to their name). The infamous "Login error" screen I've seen just once, and the only thing I had to do was to press "ok" and wait 5 seconds, after which everything worked as it should have done.
Finally. The "always online" aspect is garbage. If you weren't anxiously waiting for this game since 2011, probably best to wait a bit more and not buy it until the devs finally see reason and understand how much more money and brand loyalty they would get if they introduced an offline mode. The game clearly has one built in already. The core mechanics are robust. The campaign is long. The driving physics, as arcade racers go, are top-notch. There's a great game there, but I fear the damage has been already done by the botched launch.
They lost a purchase the moment I heard it was online only and pvp only.
It might just be me but the driving mechanics are a make or break thing for me. Right now, it just looks like a car is stationary and the road is being pulled underneath it like a 90s handheld game. Trying to give the illusion that the car is moving. The car is also turning left and right a huge amount at all speeds, when turning. You have to go forward when turning. Here it looks like the car travels half a meter and has already turned 90 degrees. I love playing gta iv for its car mechanics alone and couldn’t continue playing GTA v after completing the story because of the car mechanics. I love the speedometer’s look and the map turquoise and the island idea and everything. Graphics on the car look good. It just looks like its built on a gaming engine meant for demos and not triple aaas. Either that or they haven’t bothered to make the game any good. They changed the driving mechanics recently but thats not a good thing. The huge change tells me they got the most important part of the game wrong and made a big change to it. Doesn’t seem refined at all. Maybe they can refine this now but this should have been done at least 3 years ago.
The f i pay for my game and then i have to pay for battlepass too so i can play better? Is this some kinda of a joke?
They ignored what made a TDU game and TDU game just made a Horizon clone
I will argue that TDU1 on the Hardcore mode felt pretty realistic and nice, almost like a Forza Horizon
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What driving games need is "cities" but big, dense cities. It's quite annoying that in other driving games one part is city while the rest is empty. It's fine to add vegetation, mountains, forests, towns, etc. to give variety to the map, but what we want are cities.
Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown along with CarX Street both have large, dense cities.
I’m not buying ANY always online game after the crew.. plus you can’t mod
Was excited for this game, after what I've been hearing, gonna have to pass on this. If they want to milk the customers after they purchase a mediocre racing game, no thanks, who do you think they are, EA.
Sad thing is, none of today's open world racing games go for driving realism.... We've been racing through non-existent light gates through the streets for the last 30+ years. Remember the original Test Drive from 1987?? Just two cars on an open road racing each other. Back then it was the right direction, and it should be today. But now everything is made for fckn 8yo kids.....
None of the pros of this game outweigh the massive cons, the game sucks. Dead in a couple months
Because
There is always some old white guy that will come in nd completely ruin a videogame
Lol too unrealistic expectations bruv
Now lets say we listened to you with TDU2 then TDU2 wouldn't have been good THAT GAME STARTED BAD AS WELL AND BECAME GREAT WITH TIME
DOA
Removed from my wish list, It's just not a TDU game. All I see is another live service game with a battlepass and a roadmap that will lead to nowhere.
Game is a 3/10 at best. A soulless ash grab using the TDU name to trick people into buying the hot garbage.
I think TDU is going to be one of those games that I buy when it's on sale a year or two after launch, assuming the game makes it that long. There is a handful of turn-offs for me, but most of all the online requirement and seemingly forced PvP experience(s) are the biggest reasons why I won't be buying at launch.
Sounds are pretty good
This game is so fun! I love it!
It's been an interesting experience so far, I feel like my money wasn't wasted on the pre-order. Definitely a challenging game to complete, wait until you see the tasks at Level 60,lol
Test Drive Limited: Solar Cringe
Honestly, if we could have the handling from this game in TDU2, add some graphics enhancements mods, done, best TDU ever
this actually exist. and there is still multiplayer available via mods.
@@kennythemeat I know about the mods but handling fixed as well?
@@falmatrix2r last time i checked they talked about to do that. so i guess handling is WIP...
@@kennythemeat well I guess it’s a “race” between what comes first, updates for this game or the handling mod lol
I really hope the late game income increases somewhat, I’ve just unlocked the hypercars and figured out I’ll need to do 400+ races just to afford the one I’d like to use…
i was so excited for this ever since they first announced it, however after trying the test build from a few months back and seeing how it is now it just makes me sad. This game is a cruel joke and another confirmation that a lot of modern games don't know what they're doing and don't care about it either as long as it rakes in cash. Say what you will about CarX street and it's AI stuff which was not cool, at least the game ran somewhat well and i had fun with it and still do, for now TDU solar crown is a hard pass and i doubt that that will change, Always online already made me iffy and there's not really much to the game that could outweigh that con for me since it's not like the game really even is all that good so far and the things they've announced just feel like padding and them trying to dish up an under baked pie and call it finished. It's just such a sad thing to behold
Making a modern game that’s region locked is a JOKE. They better fix that. I played with my friends across the pond on TDU2 but I can’t do that now? Trash.