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Due to their micro-channel skin-cooling system, I wonder how difficult it will be to replace damaged body panels? I suppose this can't be answered until their design is finalized. Thanks for another video about the Aptera! It's the vehicle (and electric car company) I'm most excited about.
Good question! I'm sure there will be just a few points from which the coolant can enter and exit the body of the vehicle. A system like this wouldn't add much complexity for replacing the shell.
@@apterareboot1555 Yep I figure there will be o-rings where body panels meet, or since it's looking like it will be a monocoque type body anything more than a fender bender (side pod bender?) will be a total loss anyway since the structure of the survival cell will be compromised.
Excellent video and ot highlights a critical design challenge I think still exists for the Aptera. I pre-ordered and truly hope that the vehicle will perform well and safely in my area that is about 83 F all year .
If they are relying on skin cooling, it seems like a paint job with a high albedo (ie white) is critical for ensuring the coolant doesn't heat up on hot summer days.
.. you could probably also consider or try using supercapacitors (there are existing packages already, by Kilowatt Labs) instead of the Li-Ion batteries. Such packages of supercaps are more robust, less complicated, and in case of an accident can be discharged completely in microseconds..
I imagine that is true but Someone out there is probably going to figure out a way to stress test Aptera by perhaps taking it to the drag strip and run back to back quarters mile all day at full speed. If you think they won't, just think about the journalist putting weights and doing all types of of insane things to show you can make a Tesla drive without a driver in the seat.
I guess it depends on the battery but a few cars now are keeping the batteries at a certain temperature. I know my battery cooling / heat system kicks in randomly even when the car is off to maintain battery temperature within band.
@@anydaynow01 Hmm! Are you sure? Battery heating reduces charging efficiency badly and is normally only Used in Winter temperatures. Or is IT your AC using the battery as a heatsink to save power om cooling the cabin? In that case IT is a clever way to use the heat capacity of the battery pack and at the same time keep the batteries in the temperature zone, but running when parked unplugged, that is nuts??
@@Tore_Lund Well the batteries do need to be maintained either way so EVs never really "turn off" like a computer. It's more they just go to sleep like your phone when you press the power button. Since consumers have the expectation of the battery holding up as long as the car, the battery must be maintained 24/7 just like roads have to be constantly monitored for damage. Maintenance isn't fun and nobody wants to do it, but it is 100% necessary in the complex AM world of actual machines we live in. We all wish we could live in the FM world of "fucking magic" where you can jump in the transport tube alla Futurama and them step on a hyperloop to your job in Colorado in 2 hours, but that's not the world we live in.
Actually, the case of rupture of the skin cooling circuit in case of accident is a common engineering problem "in principle" and not verbatim. There are numerous solutions which would allow it to be only partially affected in case of rupture no matter how extensive. I am confident Aptera designers have already considered a number of those. The solutions at hand may be architectural, mechanical, and derived from the core technology itself. The bloodstream is a good source of inspiration.
I see the skin cooling as effective for on the go especially at highway speeds, but it does lead to some questions of sitting in the sun in the summer or the idea of the chassis getting damaged. Many cars will get in at least one crash in their life span and not sure how good an idea of running the coolant through the chassis in that way would be a perfect solution. I guess if it's deep enough in the frame of the car it could work but then I imagine the heat transfer would be much weaker. It's cool idea but I think just using a standard heat pump might be the better solution for the time being.
The A/C compressor is still fairly standard if a 400 volt dc hermetic compressor is conventional. It is just a new form for the condenser compared to usual automotive practice. Boats have used hull cooled condensers for some time.
@@n.brucenelson5920 yeah but I could more understand that with a boat as water has a high heat saturation so using it for cooling is pretty effective. Especially since water temperatures rarely ever pass 85 degrees as it takes so much more energy to heat up water.
@@Skylancer727 You are correct about the difference in heat capacity between air and water. However, by using the skin of the bottom of the vehicle, Aptera has vastly more area available for heat exchange. The last company I worked for had a heat exchanger made of thin stainless steel tubing, which has much less thermal conductivity than copper. None the less, we had vastly better performance compared to conventional soft copper tubing heat exchangers, because we were able to greatly increase the length, and thus the surface area.
"but it does lead to some questions of sitting in the sun in the summer" If you're sitting still, the batteries aren't releasing energy, and so they're not heating up.
@@phillycheesetake batteries produce heat in the act of charging and the selling point of the car is it having solar panels to charge when sitting in the sun. Plus heat is the number one cause of lithium ion cell degradation. Safe limitations for lithium ion is less than 45C when charging (about 113F) which is fully possible on hot days where the battery is also making heat, and over 60C when discharging. Heat alters the atomic structure of the cells ruining some of the cell's storage capacity and increasing the risk of a failed cell. Note though that the cold while it does hurt a battery in the moment is only temporary degraded performance. Heat on the otherhand permanently hurts the cell.
I'm no expert in car designs or anything but what if the coolant liquid channel runs through the bottom skin of the vehicle? Just below the battery pack. So even if a car crashes it from the side, it won't damage the liquid channels. Maybe not as efficient cooling but maybe safer in a crash. Also may need an insulated layer in between the battery and the channels
The more surface area that is used the more efficient would be the cooling system. I'm sure the team at Aptera will find an appropriate balance between safety and performance.
@@apterareboot1555 say they use their coolant under high pressure. There exist valves that only open if both sides have a significant (unusably high) pressure. That might fix coolant loss from big ruptures!. but it wont help against small ruptures. also added complexity additional parts additional potential failures
Nice presentation and explanation of the EV cooling systems. I think that is still early to see what the issues might be with skin cooling. It obviously has a great advantage with aerodynamics, and efficiency. Many airplanes have used fuselage skin cooling, and i just wonder how thermally conductive the composition body shell will be for heat dissipation, and how the wrap will do with possible condensation issues. Aptera could split the cooling channels for redundancy, or have one set up for battery and electronics cooling, and one for cabin A/C, and have the ability to switch on the fly to the other cooling channel if there is a loss in coolant in the other one.
Thank you for the feedback. It's definitely very early and I am sure the team at Aptera has already taken my concern into consideration so for all I know this is not an issue at all.
@@apterareboot1555 Yeah, I am certain that they will work out (or are working out) any issues in this design/development stage as the Aptera approaches production later this year. It is good that we are asking these questions as reservation holders and future Aptera owners, and I look forward to learning how the skilled Aptera engineering team resolves the various cooling and heating issues for batteries, electronics, and passengers.
I wouldn't be too concerned with loosing cooling during an accident unless the motors fail to shut off. There will be residual heat but deformation or damage to the cells would be a bigger concern. Plus with other EVs the radiator / condenser is usually in the front or they have cooling channels running throughout so they would loose their heat sink in many wrecks also.
How does Aptera cool the batteries when the cars sitting in the sun charging? Some EVs have fans kick on. In an air cooled setup how is this possible? As for heat management, will the glass have UV protect to stop the AMC Pacer effect?
Aptera grants right to repair. The service documents will be open sourced so any independent service agent will have the information and parts available to do service, as well the owners themselves.
Aptera is categorized as an autocyle which would be treated more like a motorcycle than a car in most jurisdictions. Are motorcycles also required to have front license plates as well?
aaaah, aptera cars are considered an autocycle... i know front plates are not mandatory on 2 wheels vehicles, like motorbikes, but as aptera has 3, so, i don't know. Also, the European plate is quite long and not very wide, so I don't know if it would fit on the back.
@@flof173 You can not arbitrarly fit a normal license plate on the Aptera without introducing turbulence especially om the front. I drove an enclosed delta trike EV in the 90' and IT was registred as a motorcycle, i.e. I could Park IT om the sidewalk. The difference was in the classification: Helmet exempt, but with mandatory seat belt. Still only rear MC plate required which measures 25x20 cm. Ideally a regular EU car license plate, which you Also legally have the option to put on a motorcycle, should fit between the brakelights, measures 45x10cm, without sticking out?
I think the difficult European problem is not the plate number, but the dimensions. Aptera is too wide to be able to register as an autocycle in Europe. It won't get permission to import unless homolongation experts work on it and resolve the issue.
I've invested in this company but I wonder what kind of service life an auto-cycle has. It seems to me the micro channels will have service life problems and I heard on another Aptera video the batteries are rated at only 200k.
"Aptera plans to use traditional cooling system in their vehicles while developing their skin cooling system." Where did you get this information from? I am not aware of it.
I am hoping for your final comment (initially resorting to traditional radiator cooling system, allowing them further time to develop their envelope cooling system. Aside from the issue of accident caused leakage, I am concerned with interior space temperature control with the envelope radiator concept. Imagine cruising down a highway in the summer afternoon with 100 F ambient outside temp. I don't want to be cooked with the added heat transferred from the battery and motors to the surrounding shell of the car. I'd rather that heat be routed outside of the car as in traditional radiator systems. A traditional radiator system allows for better control of coolant temperature. Also, if the planned micro-channels throughout the body are tubular, the coolant is being cooled on only one side (the outside) of the body shell and the air-flow is parallel to the coolant channels (rather than direct/perpendicular to the coolant channels as in the radiator). The radiator presents several channels to direct airflow and all sides of each channel is being cooled. The radiator also helps to move the center of gravity more towards the front between the front wheels. The radiator system is much easier to replace, maintain, and control, is simpler, most cost effective, and has far less points of failure/leakage (due to simple dings and bump damage). I would not mind at all to have an air-hole under the front nose of the body that is vented up to the radiator. I hope their Beta test mule (with the radiator) allows them to reconsider... As for heating, (I live in colder climate - BC Canada), a heat pump will not suffice. Can they give us a small butane/propane heater? Such a system's CO2 footprint would be so small. If the Aptera can nail both heating and cooling, it would be totally ideal. Without adequate interior climate control, this would really impact the utility/demand for this EV.
Me too: a) Worried about heat from the skin adding to interior cabin heat in July on Barstow to Vegas in hot sun and 110F ambient temp (the skin idea is cooking the passengers more than being cooled), b) while there's technically more surface area for skin idea, air flow is on one side and is flowing parallel to the heated liquid (less than 30% surface contact with cooling air, whereas, a typical radiator allows cooling air to be directed perpendicularly to the radiator where it runs over 75% of the surface of the tubes containing the coolant. Also a radiator stacks the "finning" blades in a more ideal configuration for cooling. c) a traditional radiator system allows easier routing of heated air via user controls to either vent the heated air away from the interior (during hot/sunny days), or routed to interior heater radiators (during freezing outside cold temps). In addition to the other mentioned concerns (crash damage leaks, added complexity and maintenance, etc), I hope my reserved Aptera has a traditional radiator (even if there's a vent under the nose of the vehicle cut out to allow air to the radiator).
Capacitors = NonChemical Batteries = No overheating or freezing concerns. With room-temperature superconductors requiring just a few small capacitors to replace all those dirty, smelly, bulky, heavy, dangerous, expensive batteries, that ingenious skin cooling thermal management system used mostly for battery cooing could be instead dedicated mostly to cabin environment control.
Better Choice for Heat Management Optical Diodes = light or infrared heat can only travel in one direction. HOES ( Holographical Optical ElementS ) coupled to Fiber Optics = more efficient, smaller, less weight, most durable, longer life. High Brightness Holocopiers make manufacturing optical temperature management systems far faster & far less expensive than your "Mind Blowing Skin Cooling Thermal Management System".
With Optical Thermal Management : Car wrecks would be less dangerous without hot fluids. Body repair would be less complicated & less expensive. Fiber Optic embedded "Smart Structures" could instantly assess vehicle damage and suggest appropriate safe maneuvers.
Older auto mechanics are thrilled about the introduction of easier to work on vehicles. That was Nicola Tesla's genius / Tesla Turbine. Aptera appears to be the best choice so far / fewer parts. Use the best technologies & keep it simple.
2 issues with supercapacitors/Ultracapacitors. Expensive and low energy density. Supercapacitor/Ultracapacitors do seem to extend battery life and they also do a much better job storing energy for regenerative breaking though. Maybe Aptera will find some function for capacitors but I don't think they can currently be used as the primary energy storage medium for now.
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Due to their micro-channel skin-cooling system, I wonder how difficult it will be to replace damaged body panels? I suppose this can't be answered until their design is finalized. Thanks for another video about the Aptera! It's the vehicle (and electric car company) I'm most excited about.
Good question! I'm sure there will be just a few points from which the coolant can enter and exit the body of the vehicle. A system like this wouldn't add much complexity for replacing the shell.
@@apterareboot1555 That's reassuring! I'm excited to learn more about how all their systems work in detail as they near production.
@@apterareboot1555 Yep I figure there will be o-rings where body panels meet, or since it's looking like it will be a monocoque type body anything more than a fender bender (side pod bender?) will be a total loss anyway since the structure of the survival cell will be compromised.
Dealing with battery heat and life is definitely what I am anxious to hear about as a person in Phoenix that would love an Aptera.
Excellent video and ot highlights a critical design challenge I think still exists for the Aptera.
I pre-ordered and truly hope that the vehicle will perform well and safely in my area that is about 83 F all year .
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Awesome I love it and can't wait to own one
If they are relying on skin cooling, it seems like a paint job with a high albedo (ie white) is critical for ensuring the coolant doesn't heat up on hot summer days.
Love it! Hope to get one!
I wonder how this affects roof solar panels.
.. you could probably also consider or try using supercapacitors (there are existing packages already, by Kilowatt Labs) instead of the Li-Ion batteries. Such packages of supercaps are more robust, less complicated, and in case of an accident can be discharged completely in microseconds..
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- The Fuel Tank of Tomorrow - A Super Capacitor?
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Very interesting. I learned something. Thanks!
With a consumption of only 100Wh/km, battery cooling should not be needed when driving, but only when fast charging?
I imagine that is true but Someone out there is probably going to figure out a way to stress test Aptera by perhaps taking it to the drag strip and run back to back quarters mile all day at full speed.
If you think they won't, just think about the journalist putting weights and doing all types of of insane things to show you can make a Tesla drive without a driver in the seat.
I guess it depends on the battery but a few cars now are keeping the batteries at a certain temperature. I know my battery cooling / heat system kicks in randomly even when the car is off to maintain battery temperature within band.
@@anydaynow01 Hmm! Are you sure? Battery heating reduces charging efficiency badly and is normally only Used in Winter temperatures. Or is IT your AC using the battery as a heatsink to save power om cooling the cabin? In that case IT is a clever way to use the heat capacity of the battery pack and at the same time keep the batteries in the temperature zone, but running when parked unplugged, that is nuts??
@@Tore_Lund Well the batteries do need to be maintained either way so EVs never really "turn off" like a computer. It's more they just go to sleep like your phone when you press the power button. Since consumers have the expectation of the battery holding up as long as the car, the battery must be maintained 24/7 just like roads have to be constantly monitored for damage.
Maintenance isn't fun and nobody wants to do it, but it is 100% necessary in the complex AM world of actual machines we live in. We all wish we could live in the FM world of "fucking magic" where you can jump in the transport tube alla Futurama and them step on a hyperloop to your job in Colorado in 2 hours, but that's not the world we live in.
Actually, the case of rupture of the skin cooling circuit in case of accident is a common engineering problem "in principle" and not verbatim. There are numerous solutions which would allow it to be only partially affected in case of rupture no matter how extensive. I am confident Aptera designers have already considered a number of those. The solutions at hand may be architectural, mechanical, and derived from the core technology itself. The bloodstream is a good source of inspiration.
What about the opposite in frozen weather? Can a car electric heater supply the necessary therms to keep the batteries "comfortable"?
I see the skin cooling as effective for on the go especially at highway speeds, but it does lead to some questions of sitting in the sun in the summer or the idea of the chassis getting damaged. Many cars will get in at least one crash in their life span and not sure how good an idea of running the coolant through the chassis in that way would be a perfect solution. I guess if it's deep enough in the frame of the car it could work but then I imagine the heat transfer would be much weaker.
It's cool idea but I think just using a standard heat pump might be the better solution for the time being.
The A/C compressor is still fairly standard if a 400 volt dc hermetic compressor is conventional. It is just a new form for the condenser compared to usual automotive practice. Boats have used hull cooled condensers for some time.
@@n.brucenelson5920 yeah but I could more understand that with a boat as water has a high heat saturation so using it for cooling is pretty effective. Especially since water temperatures rarely ever pass 85 degrees as it takes so much more energy to heat up water.
@@Skylancer727 You are correct about the difference in heat capacity between air and water.
However, by using the skin of the bottom of the vehicle, Aptera has vastly more area available for heat exchange.
The last company I worked for had a heat exchanger made of thin stainless steel tubing, which has much less thermal conductivity than copper. None the less, we had vastly better performance compared to conventional soft copper tubing heat exchangers, because we were able to greatly increase the length, and thus the surface area.
"but it does lead to some questions of sitting in the sun in the summer"
If you're sitting still, the batteries aren't releasing energy, and so they're not heating up.
@@phillycheesetake batteries produce heat in the act of charging and the selling point of the car is it having solar panels to charge when sitting in the sun.
Plus heat is the number one cause of lithium ion cell degradation. Safe limitations for lithium ion is less than 45C when charging (about 113F) which is fully possible on hot days where the battery is also making heat, and over 60C when discharging. Heat alters the atomic structure of the cells ruining some of the cell's storage capacity and increasing the risk of a failed cell.
Note though that the cold while it does hurt a battery in the moment is only temporary degraded performance. Heat on the otherhand permanently hurts the cell.
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I'm no expert in car designs or anything but what if the coolant liquid channel runs through the bottom skin of the vehicle? Just below the battery pack. So even if a car crashes it from the side, it won't damage the liquid channels. Maybe not as efficient cooling but maybe safer in a crash. Also may need an insulated layer in between the battery and the channels
The more surface area that is used the more efficient would be the cooling system. I'm sure the team at Aptera will find an appropriate balance between safety and performance.
@@apterareboot1555 say they use their coolant under high pressure. There exist valves that only open if both sides have a significant (unusably high) pressure. That might fix coolant loss from big ruptures!. but it wont help against small ruptures.
also added complexity
additional parts
additional potential failures
So how well will an Aptera do in desert conditions on a slow uphill climb that does not allow much air to pass over the passive skin cooling plate?
Nice presentation and explanation of the EV cooling systems. I think that is still early to see what the issues might be with skin cooling. It obviously has a great advantage with aerodynamics, and efficiency. Many airplanes have used fuselage skin cooling, and i just wonder how thermally conductive the composition body shell will be for heat dissipation, and how the wrap will do with possible condensation issues. Aptera could split the cooling channels for redundancy, or have one set up for battery and electronics cooling, and one for cabin A/C, and have the ability to switch on the fly to the other cooling channel if there is a loss in coolant in the other one.
Thank you for the feedback. It's definitely very early and I am sure the team at Aptera has already taken my concern into consideration so for all I know this is not an issue at all.
@@apterareboot1555 Yeah, I am certain that they will work out (or are working out) any issues in this design/development stage as the Aptera approaches production later this year. It is good that we are asking these questions as reservation holders and future Aptera owners, and I look forward to learning how the skilled Aptera engineering team resolves the various cooling and heating issues for batteries, electronics, and passengers.
I wouldn't be too concerned with loosing cooling during an accident unless the motors fail to shut off. There will be residual heat but deformation or damage to the cells would be a bigger concern. Plus with other EVs the radiator / condenser is usually in the front or they have cooling channels running throughout so they would loose their heat sink in many wrecks also.
Great info and thanks!
How does Aptera cool the batteries when the cars sitting in the sun charging? Some EVs have fans kick on. In an air cooled setup how is this possible?
As for heat management, will the glass have UV protect to stop the AMC Pacer effect?
Where will you get your Aptera serviced??
Aptera grants right to repair. The service documents will be open sourced so any independent service agent will have the information and parts available to do service, as well the owners themselves.
They also say they will have a kind of field service team who will talk you through the repairs or come to you if needed.
I can’t wait!!!
Do they have a HVAC all ready working ?
Yes. The reversing valve for heat is not yet available in a fully tested form with sufficient lead time for initial production.
Will Aptera design a car that we can drive in Europe, because on the front number plate...
Aptera is categorized as an autocyle which would be treated more like a motorcycle than a car in most jurisdictions. Are motorcycles also required to have front license plates as well?
aaaah, aptera cars are considered an autocycle... i know front plates are not mandatory on 2 wheels vehicles, like motorbikes, but as aptera has 3, so, i don't know. Also, the European plate is quite long and not very wide, so I don't know if it would fit on the back.
@@flof173 You can not arbitrarly fit a normal license plate on the Aptera without introducing turbulence especially om the front. I drove an enclosed delta trike EV in the 90' and IT was registred as a motorcycle, i.e. I could Park IT om the sidewalk. The difference was in the classification: Helmet exempt, but with mandatory seat belt. Still only rear MC plate required which measures 25x20 cm. Ideally a regular EU car license plate, which you Also legally have the option to put on a motorcycle, should fit between the brakelights, measures 45x10cm, without sticking out?
@@Tore_Lund ok thanks !
I think the difficult European problem is not the plate number, but the dimensions. Aptera is too wide to be able to register as an autocycle in Europe. It won't get permission to import unless homolongation experts work on it and resolve the issue.
Graphene-infused coolant could significantly improve thermal conductivity.
I've invested in this company but I wonder what kind of service life an auto-cycle has. It seems to me the micro channels will have service life problems and I heard on another Aptera video the batteries are rated at only 200k.
200k miles ? That's pretty good.
"Aptera plans to use traditional cooling system in their vehicles while developing their skin cooling system."
Where did you get this information from? I am not aware of it.
I am hoping for your final comment (initially resorting to traditional radiator cooling system, allowing them further time to develop their envelope cooling system. Aside from the issue of accident caused leakage, I am concerned with interior space temperature control with the envelope radiator concept. Imagine cruising down a highway in the summer afternoon with 100 F ambient outside temp. I don't want to be cooked with the added heat transferred from the battery and motors to the surrounding shell of the car. I'd rather that heat be routed outside of the car as in traditional radiator systems. A traditional radiator system allows for better control of coolant temperature. Also, if the planned micro-channels throughout the body are tubular, the coolant is being cooled on only one side (the outside) of the body shell and the air-flow is parallel to the coolant channels (rather than direct/perpendicular to the coolant channels as in the radiator). The radiator presents several channels to direct airflow and all sides of each channel is being cooled. The radiator also helps to move the center of gravity more towards the front between the front wheels. The radiator system is much easier to replace, maintain, and control, is simpler, most cost effective, and has far less points of failure/leakage (due to simple dings and bump damage). I would not mind at all to have an air-hole under the front nose of the body that is vented up to the radiator. I hope their Beta test mule (with the radiator) allows them to reconsider...
As for heating, (I live in colder climate - BC Canada), a heat pump will not suffice. Can they give us a small butane/propane heater? Such a system's CO2 footprint would be so small.
If the Aptera can nail both heating and cooling, it would be totally ideal. Without adequate interior climate control, this would really impact the utility/demand for this EV.
I think they should go with the standard cooling system .
Me too: a) Worried about heat from the skin adding to interior cabin heat in July on Barstow to Vegas in hot sun and 110F ambient temp (the skin idea is cooking the passengers more than being cooled), b) while there's technically more surface area for skin idea, air flow is on one side and is flowing parallel to the heated liquid (less than 30% surface contact with cooling air, whereas, a typical radiator allows cooling air to be directed perpendicularly to the radiator where it runs over 75% of the surface of the tubes containing the coolant. Also a radiator stacks the "finning" blades in a more ideal configuration for cooling. c) a traditional radiator system allows easier routing of heated air via user controls to either vent the heated air away from the interior (during hot/sunny days), or routed to interior heater radiators (during freezing outside cold temps). In addition to the other mentioned concerns (crash damage leaks, added complexity and maintenance, etc), I hope my reserved Aptera has a traditional radiator (even if there's a vent under the nose of the vehicle cut out to allow air to the radiator).
@@a5-30-31cts my thoughts exactly
but I don't have the mental energy to express it as well as you . 😆
I’m a little worried about the seat being comfortable enough.
It's always hard to get a bucket seat that fits the size of your bucket.
2 years later and they still did not proof it works
They did proof it not works, on a NBC news item where it overheated going up a shallow hill 😂
Aptera air conditioning for passengers.
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hardly mind blowing... cool tho
Capacitors = NonChemical Batteries = No overheating or freezing concerns.
With room-temperature superconductors requiring just a few small capacitors
to replace all those dirty, smelly, bulky, heavy, dangerous, expensive batteries,
that ingenious skin cooling thermal management system used mostly for battery cooing
could be instead dedicated mostly to cabin environment control.
Better Choice for Heat Management
Optical Diodes = light or infrared heat can only travel in one direction.
HOES ( Holographical Optical ElementS ) coupled to Fiber Optics
= more efficient, smaller, less weight, most durable, longer life.
High Brightness Holocopiers make manufacturing optical temperature management systems
far faster & far less expensive than your "Mind Blowing Skin Cooling Thermal Management System".
With Optical Thermal Management :
Car wrecks would be less dangerous without hot fluids.
Body repair would be less complicated & less expensive.
Fiber Optic embedded "Smart Structures" could instantly
assess vehicle damage and suggest appropriate safe maneuvers.
Older auto mechanics are thrilled about the introduction of
easier to work on vehicles. That was Nicola Tesla's genius / Tesla Turbine.
Aptera appears to be the best choice so far / fewer parts.
Use the best technologies & keep it simple.
Aptera is certainly interested in such tech when and if it becomes available in commodity pricing and quantity.
2 issues with supercapacitors/Ultracapacitors. Expensive and low energy density. Supercapacitor/Ultracapacitors do seem to extend battery life and they also do a much better job storing energy for regenerative breaking though. Maybe Aptera will find some function for capacitors but I don't think they can currently be used as the primary energy storage medium for now.