1543 Self charging battery generates electricity from moisture in the air
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I made at least 40 such thermo electric generators and Thermo galvanic cells using evaporation by endothermic means as well as various engines & motors whilst still at school over 50 ago, and if I had your depth of scientific knowledge and workshop at my disposal would have tens of thousands more by now. Keep up the good work there are not many this ilk left.
Love it Robert and to all y’all that generate ideas , as how Robert wants is awesome. The nay sayers , douses!! Y’all keep at it I’m loving this stuff
I'm very happy to be your follower keep going Robert, i have so much to learn from you and your channel, incredible work. All my respect, sincerly, Thank you again.
that is an awesome thing to say - thank you for taking the time and trouble to say it - all the best
This is extremely interesting, thank you so much.
Thanks for sharing. Got to get the paper and then make one!
go for it - it really is super easy once you have the GO
hada.....tell them where you saw it first! (he was on twitter wih me during the mcullough call)
Brilliant, thanks for sharing.
Why are we discussing the minut amount of sweat moisture when there is a ton of moisture Outdoors
lol - that is a very good point lol
@@kingmasterlord though I bet those guys would use solar
@@kingmasterlord yup. I mean by now we are still close to the sun, so why not solar?
Never seen people in a rave in the 90's 🤣🤣
@@rfarrer7685 or the sweaty big guys in a 90s mosh pit
Thanks, I remember a few years ago a system had self recharging blocks of special laminated layers that one put in a geothermal shed; enough power generated to take notice but I was skeptical. But this seems along similar lines. Generating electricity with no moving parts, save nature transferring heat and moisture. Thanks
yeah - it's basically a heat engine shuttling protons
@@ThinkingandTinkering how does it work with a capacitor in parallel 🤔 it was the phrase electron shuffler a cap would either dull that out or increase it if it has a detrimental effect try inductance
@@dononebullen a guy posted that tank in rackmount. His channel is still up. But he died right after that vid < ...ah, I remember: pmg4hybrid
More awesome stuff from the man himself! Thanks for sharing Rob! Just while I am here I recall you doing an extremely interesting video on a strange capacitor that stored 10000 times more charge than it should. You explained the reason was a series of tiny micro structures in the material where the charge could gather. I have been pouring through your videos to try and find what that materials actually was but since the videos have been re uploaded I don't seem to be able to find it. Would you perhaps do a quick 3 min video on the significance of those structures when it comes to storing charge again please? I have seen some novel methods of creating these structures like lasering an acrylic sheet to form micro needles and then pouring in some sort of polymer like silicon and making a mold of sorts but I would like to use a natural material if possible!
you would like the nano cavity work of pof. Garrett modell of the university of colorado boulder
Ahh. So this is how they will keep the implanted microchip charged. Nice.
it wouldn't work in the blood stream it needs to dry as well as get wet
@@ThinkingandTinkering I am sure they will make an Oyster Perpetual edition.
@@YawnGod Robert is correct. We are actually using simple thermocouple devices.
Oops. Did I say that out loud?
@@TimeSurfer206 Nice. My comment to you was automatically censored.
Take that, the future.
Thanks
I wonder if addng silica to the mix would help the Perfomance as i have been able to generate good voltage from wet silica when activated carbon touching the silica and gettin voltage across the silica and carbon.
Please can you do a video on creating borophene-
Being kind to each other, now that’s a lovely notion. 👏
A new way to enjoy a hot sweaty day at the beach with your calculator in Australia.
the fun never ends lol
Awesome!
yeah I thought so too mate
Interesting. I think the "PMMG4HYBRID" generator uses similar chemistry. But the moisture collecting is boosted with baked Sodium chloride and / or Calcium chloride.
yeah his graphene modules probably do so, but he died unfortunately last year
@@fidelcatsro6948 oh that's sad. He had some very interesting concepts happening that had me intrigued . Sounds about right in being same concept as they were low trickle power.
intersting - thanks for sharing
the world trembles as Australia harnesses the power of the armpit 😋.
Those Australians have a lot of time to sit around thinking. Some of the smartest ones have been doing it for more than 100,000 years. They become super efficiency lifestyles . Could exist in the harshest conditions for months at a time where others would perish within hours !
lol - those crazy crazy antipodeans lol
Brilliant.
Thanks so much!! So interesting. I think I just saw a guy who was able to diy one of these over on an AlienScientist Live stream. I’ll have to check which one it was. He made tube batteries that put out voltage as long as a wet paper towel sits on top of the tubes.
sounds interesting - cheers
If you covered a RV/Motor home with this, I wonder how much power you could potentially get from it day after day. Love this video.
nice thought - cheers
Unlike solar cells, with these you can stack 3D as many layers as is practical.
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Would it be possible to use the heat generated by a motor to pass water vapour through a tube/hose that's had its interior coated with this material and have top up's when the air's not so moist?
The thought of being nice to people makes me sweat as well. XD
lol
GO GO GO. :) Nice find Mate
cheers mate
I can tell by the inside of that Teacup - this man once served in the Army lol
If 10 minutes in HCA changes the surface, could you substitute soaking it in Coca-Cola for, say, a few hours (days?) and get similar results?
I would imagine it would
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Can you paint some on a panel and put a north and south magnet around. see what it dose. ????
That power generation is on par with an earth battery or beta voltaic battery, but smaller than the first and far cheaper than the second.
you can combine them with earth battery tech. newer cells use galfenol nanoparticles to convert ground infrasound to electrical energy. combined with water batteries you get more amperage
indeed mate
I noticed this myself when making some different batteries, you don't actually need graphene oxide to make this happen, lots of different batteries can exibit "evaporation-saturation power generation"
My current project, I'm using crushed charcoal on one electrode and titatium dioxide mixed with prussian blue and pva glue on the other electrode.
It will function as a DSSC (dye sensitised solar cell) when in the sunlight, but out of the sunlight, the oxidation of the prussian blue will cause the solar cell to function as a battery when the light is gone until all of the prussian blue turns to prussian white, at which point adding in sunlight will turn the prussian white back to prussian blue.
But prussian blue is also reactive with moisture, so the cell should also generate with varying moisture levels as well.
Going to make a video on it when I perfect my cell. It's going to be 3d printable, so when I'm done, I'll share the design.
i look forward to it mate - cheers nd thnks for sharing
Now that is an interesting concept!
......... I wonder if there is a future in internal use for this? Maybe powering a pacemaker from the wetness from you blood (I am sure other bodily fluids could also be used)
I doubt it mate - it also needs to dry
@@ThinkingandTinkering So, skin mounted? It could be like a 21c tattoo ;o) It could work well with some of the biometric implants they are playing with now.
Could you say cover a ocean side pier and get power from the waves constantly wetting then drying it?
I suppose you could
In the practical video, @4:20, am I seeing correctly that the cells were fully submerged in h2o in the plastic tub?
no - the bowl is there to stop excess water from getting on the bench - water is being blown over them by the mister that you can see
@@ThinkingandTinkering thanks, the reflection of the overhead light on the surface of the accumulated water tripped me up.
Also, ➕ 10 points for the Dalek mug...
How is the working ink Inc. Coming along? Where can I get an update e-mail?
How about the application of painting a submarine or boat bottom with it and using the energy to power the boats motor?
it needs to get wet and to dry mate
Looking forward to mass production!
This is the way forward. So battery only is discharged when dry. How quick does battery charge up when moisture is present? Is this an advanced version of the rain water generator. Basically taking charge from moisture and storing it.
Just thinking Robert. Could you encase the one side of battery so it stays dry. Does the reaction of moisture to battery to produce energy have a reaction like heat so Moisture evaporates off cell to make dry. What happens if cell immersed one side in water? Could you do a DIY mock up and test some of these theories of mine. I have ideas but always have trouble putting them into practice. I am the "what if" person lol
Check my math. A96'''x96'' area will generate some 2.8 and change? What would the energy density be? Just asking. Thx Bobby.
I bought a flashlight that was similar to this. you wet the battery and it runs until it dries out. Then you rehydrate it and off you go. It said in the docs about it is good for 200 charges and then you have to replace the battery. Not sure if it was exactly the same chemical make up but it was at least a similar process. I did return it to the retailer because the replacement battery was very expensive for the durable life and I felt it needed more development to be a useful product.
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Do you have an actual DIY for this?
Low charge options for battery banks... Any type of micro generator that is easy and consistent. Have you made the Tritium generator yet Robert? Use low watt solar panels with some little Tritium samples in the mail! Do it on video!
Does this battery continue to produce electricity as long as it is wet?
Or is there a point when it has to be allowed to dry out?
I'm thinking that coupling it with a wet sponge or other similar water absorbing device would give you a longer period of electricity.
It would be nice if they could get it sensitive enough to create electricity strictly from the humidity in the air.
It would be a boon for electrical production in locations near large bodies of water that have days of high humidity.
it will need to dry out - it is a heat engine really
It's not strong enough to generate any kind of mains power.
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"It's not strong enough to generate any kind of mains power."
Neither is a single battery.
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lol awesome
The moisture wicked up by the Oasis blocks u used earlier would be a long life cell....????
yes it would I think
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Terrific especially as we mostly live in a moist country and moist house’s.
yep - damp is a constant and consistent problem in the UK - now it can be a solution!
Yes I know that company and the projects that they make. Active RFID market will be good for that battery.
awesome
Pacemaker batteries, and internal receivers for implanted devices, I can think of several uses.
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link to the whitepaper is missing??
it's in the video time stamp 2:49
Cant wait till they make it a module, an self powered sensor for vending machines that turns on only when there is human present by measuring moisture levels
cool
Coat the bottom , and sides ... and top, heck just everywhere it won't be in the way. Put it on a boat 🚢
a. boat would be a really good place - the sails too!
I have a similar idea, but it's not a battery but a triboelectric nano generator powered by evaporation. Interesting. Mine is probably lower power, but cheaper and easier to make.
Use Paper with the moisture; e.g. your other video; P.S. you can get paper suites and knickers
I would use paper too
Where's the paper link?
Great video!!! Now we are getting somewhere. Now here is the big question in my mind. Could we rather than coat glass, coat a surface on one side of a celluloid material and it still work? If so, could we not use the paper cell to drive the hydrogen needed for this graphene oxide cell? In other words, make a complimentary system between the 2 to produce a system in which the paper cell would make current while charging the graphene oxide cell. The cell becomes saturated with runoff hydrogen then it produces current. As its current is drawn off during it's discharge phase it too would have oxygen and hydrogen runoff then feeding the celluloid cell to produce even more current. Making a continually perpetuating current from one to the other using the same water fuel. The biggest problem I see with this is the collector on the side coated with the oxide would have to be porous. I guess a possibility would be to impregnate the cellulose side with a glucose layer. May have just found my summer project. Thanks again for this wonderful video.
One critical flaw with your design
@@PetraKann Oh I am sure there are many flaws, besides it's not a design it's an experiment. Notice I said "big question in my mind" and would it work or not. I have no idea whether it would work or not. Now with that said there is one critical flaw in your statement. What is the critical flaw that you claim with a theoretical experiment never been attempted design concept? That's what a technical person calls "working out the bugs". So don't claim a flaw without naming said flaw. I know without doubt that there are many flaws to potentially have to work through. Now which of these have you spotted?
@@PetraKann Any input would be nice as I may just try to build this theoretical cell. You see something in this that is a flaw. Ok, what is it? Don't just claim something and not back it up with evidence.
I guess I need to clarify what I am proposing as a possibility and why. The paper cell is pretty much a proton pump and the oxide cell appears to be an electron pump. Both with opposing charges. In an energy system, the energy produced is the difference between the charges at opposing ends of the spectrum. So what if it were possible to marry the two cells in someway to compliment each other? Can it feasibly be done? Honestly I have no idea. But it might be fun and would surely be a learning experience even if it failed miserably. Hell, I would be happy to just build them so that they work individually. If they worked together it would be a big bonus.
that sounds like an awesome summer project mate - I think your thinking is spot on and you are asking the right kinds of questions. If it was me I would combine it with the paper too - I think the only reason the current collector materials chosen were chosen just because they could be sure there was no faradaic contribution from those materials. Petra Kann's comment I found annoying - it is no use at all and only does one thing - it says look at me how smart am I - nothing else - if Petra had included the issue they thought was there - well then it would have been an awesome comment - but just to say that as far as I am concerned is to say nothing of value.
Waoow!!! 😂Awesome!!!!
I agree mate
This sounds really interesting but the idea that I would have would be could you play this on a side of a boat higher than the water level than the boat would normally be and then you could also add solar panels to that boat which would make it more self-reliant then just simply using solar panels on a boat.
Or maybe just simply add this to a already existing Hydro generator to increase the proficiency of it, you would still be using the same amount of water to generate power but you would be more efficient with how much energy you restore
@James Cunliffe yes but that's a video game however I think something like this could be interesting in real life. Another cool idea could be taking this technology into a diesel vehicle because one of the things it would create would be water which could power the battery passively
nice idea thanks for sharing mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering I live in Florida so another idea for this technology could be placing a cover over a pool both to make it stay clean for longer and act as a giant battery
Use your Graphene Oxide in a Volta Pile. Then compare it to the Dendera Egyptian Light Bulb and also to the Cambodian Temple Spiers.
i wonder if theres something to having a liquid metal flowing through a magnetic field to produce electricity.
yes - it's magnetohydrodynamics
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Has this battery come into daily use? Or it's like a new invention?
2:22 As a teenager, I can confirm that this is true.
lol
seems like a great fit for low power fitness trackers. quite a bit of surface area on the band for moisture collection.
The real secret to so called free energy is a sharp gradient, and something that can catch it in time.
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Well done, but sweat? This is possibly the second opportunity in less than a week in which you have uncharacteristically not mentioned the use of urine for electrical storage or production. Great video.
lol - well it needs slow moisture uptake and it needs to dry out too - it's more like a heat engine I think as opposed to a water electrolyte battery - I just copied the research paper title really
Potential roof material??
for sure
7:35, random smoke from the left. No reaction :P
Cup of tea or a ciggy moist likely !
my cigarette
You cannot get the materials for hobby chemisty research I would like try this
you can buy graphene oxide on eBay!
@@ThinkingandTinkering thanks I will look into this
I watch your videos but I have some questions long time ago I thought you put tinfoil in roof and it charged a battery ?? Than you put two fans together one powered the other to make electricity if you put two or three would you make enough electricity too run the first one or more electricity?? Than you ran water through a turbine so what would happen if you put another one ro two under it to make more electricity?? I would love to try this out but have lost use of my right hand don't know if I will get the use back of my hand so hope you can look into it THANK YOU
I wonder if this could be breath powered.
yes it could
It might work on low powered tracking transmitters on animals, there is a huge market in Africa.
nice suggestion mate
I was the first to creat this type of Generator. I talked to ETH Universität in Zürich Switzerland. Now this thing is poppiing up in Australia?🤔😭
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A self charging battery that makes electricity from the air? Isn't that the description of a nylon carpet?
now with graphene and hematene!
go for it
Sulphuric acid is nearly impossible in many countries to come by unfortunately.
Look in a car battery.
@@timothyjohnson1511 well yes but I was rather spoilt I guess by access to analytical grade chemicals when I was in the lab game.
Let's hope they make it into self heating winter clothing before gas prices go up again.
A few push ups and jump ups and chin ups are truly amazing and fast way to self heating along with insulating clothing . Us humans are amazing energy converters !
indeed mate
Robert could this be made with (SODIUM SILICATE ADSONBENT and DIAMETRIC EARTH) and then sprayed on in thin layers until the thickness you desire is achieved? If this is possible then you could spray and build any thickness desired where it could be used in the Shower Room and KITCHEN plus Cloths dryer MECHINE EXOUST allowing Moister to spread over Battery Surface even the outside of your Home to construct a very large Battery that could maybe run most or all the power needs of your Home. Maybe each Brick or Building Block for Foundation, also House Siding and Roofing. Maybe even Driveway. What do you think?
Great ideas.. I would simply put a panel (like a wall pannel), that collects the moisture & generates electricity..it has been done
Hi Murray. I love your videos and really appreciate your dedication to free energy solutions. I am working on a project to combine a passive all year round greenhouse with an underground cooling chamber (for growing mushrooms); to create a climate (heat and air) exchanger. I am combining some of the technologies you have brought to light with some concepts/materials made by RUclipsr NightHawkInLight; infrared paint and PCMs.
I have have been wondering if you could offer some insights or alternative solutions whereby the moisture formed or this dramatic temperature difference itself can be utilised to create a barrier/wall between both rooms or harnesses excess energy? I was looking into Piezoelectricity and I found this video here. Before I rack your brain too much, are there any tips you can recommend for how I might be able to experiment in creating such a 'vapour' barrier or any other ways I might be able to trap any excess energy in the build design?
So i wonder if it would this be practical to have structure to collect moisture in the desert nighttime aswell as charge some batteries . That would be super amazing if that could be incorporated into that existing technology .Seems like just a humid environment would provide a sufficient energy for yellow leds lighting up known foggy roadways and cycle paths where the fog is the actual detector as well as the energy producer!
that is a cool idea mate
This sound allot like a very sensitive capacitor.
Interesting but only useful for very, very, very low power items.
Prince Andrew would have trouble charging this type of battery. 😐
this could be woven into clothes, possibly charge small wearable devices, will have to look into this a little deeper.
you are dead right there mate
I haven't made graphite oxide yeah because I was a little nervous about the whole situation even though I have rigged up a wonderful product made in the UK it's a chiller made by grant industrial? Grant instruments? I can't remember at this point their exact name I know it's a grant chiller and it's one of the best men so I know that I have the proper equipment to keep this very cold and safe but I keep on thinking back to when I made potassium chlorate and I was doing a compound that actually and you're going to shudder adds a substantial amount of sulfur to the chlorate compound. If you know what that does you would be very terrified to know that I had about 1000 grams of it.
To give you an idea of the explosive nature of this compound if you mix these two with some sort of sugar compound and take a pea sized lump of it and hit it with a hammer it will shatter the hammer head possibly killing you and setting up all the car alarms for six blocks.
I had this gingerly mix by making a very low powered Tumblr where I could tumble it right in a beaker very slowly NA had taken the compound ought to carry away and dropped it on my feet it slipped out of my hands I almost had a heart attack the only reason why it didn't blow up was that I hadn't added the sulfur yet I had only done the glucose and didn't realize it. If I would've had an entire 1000 milliliter beaker full of this it would have blown my entire house up I would have been dead instantly and ever since then I've been shy about doing anything with any dangerous chemicals now of course in hindsight I have learned if I have to work with explosive product do it a tiny bit at a time and keep everything in the four corners of my labs separate
I'm shaking right now just thinking of that happening because anything can happen you can be as careful as careful can be and something unexpected can ruin your whole life.
So compared to that very foolish thing that I did by making that compound making graphite oxide is pretty tame especially when I have the chiller in place I have made a water bath specialized with coil glass tubes that run chiller solution through it I can actually freeze water in that cooling dish if I cranked the thing up too high so I could actually do this process inside in a fume hood without really worrying too much.
When I'm doing something dangerous or toxic like working with phenolic plastic recipes or whatnot I run through the entire process mentally five or ten times thinking of everything that could possibly go wrong. Call me paranoid i probably AM but at this point I'd rather be safe than sorry.
NO!
The 'water' is the vector for the Aether.
don't shout it is rude - I get it you think water is the vector for the ether - I disagree
@@ThinkingandTinkering I concur with you. Plasma is the first phase state of matter, plasma is a transformer, it transforms Aetheric fluid/still magnetic light, into Matter, by means of perturbation(s).
@James Cunliffe without the negative you cannot realize the positive, and everything would be in Stasis. This "Zero Point" is where all Potentia resides, you can call it The Aetheric Fluid/Akashic records/Still magnetic light, or whatever term fits.
"Energy derives from both the plus and negative." - Metallica, Eye of The Beholder.
Currently, due to Claude Shannon, we use a dipole/binary system of Code, either on or off(0 or 1). However "Nature" does not operate on a binary system, it operates on a Triptych Code (-1,0,+1).
@James Cunliffe no such things as particles, only perturbations.
There exists implosion, compression and explosion (-1,0,+1). This is explained by rapid bifurcation, fractal replication, and repulsion. If this process is fast enough it causes cavitation (sonoluminescence). Rapid cavitation pulsing results in plasma production which can be controlled by using magnetism, see ITER Tokamak and W7X Stellarator. By utilizing Alfven's principles of magnetohydrodynamics, it is possible to create a "sun" (an Aetheric fluid generator and Matter transformer) - Amun Ra.
@James Cunliffe Do you mean Angkor Wat ?
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men in black entered the chat...we need vigilante guards stationed at Robert's lab from now on..we can use these to charge up ultracapacitors which then trigger step up modules that can be used to pulse-charge banks of batteries 🐱👍🏿
@James Cunliffe
Viva elecricity revolution ☝️
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soo 0.032 watss if energy
Was that per cm²
If so 1m² is x 10000 which makes it 320.0 Watts. Back of a watch bout 2cm² so 0.128 Watts. What you want is these cells to charge an internal capacitor/ cell too. So when dry watch or device still works
I suggest anyone doing this construct a lab first. The kitchen is no place for it.
what is a lab but a room you do 'lab' stuff in
As If the calculator has 820va lol 🤔
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Little current not electricity sir.
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Shhhh the Canadian dictatorship will accuse me of being a terrorist for watching this!
LOL - batteries running like B.O. - LOL
. rather a stinky Solution.!
indeed lol
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Why are you ignoring the energy of the earth? there is ample amounts
I fyi think about it this is energy of the earth - it hooks into the rain cycle
All variations of the same thing
yes they are
To be fair you should always say.. MILLIVOLTS and MILLIWATTS and explain it's basically NOTHING.
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If you put word 'simple' in front of the name it can be called a 'smeg'!
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First 🥇🏅🏆🥇 great job 👍🤓
awesome mate and cheers
it was tech they took from me. prof. mcullough called for replication of my water battery on twitter then UNSW took it
I see
@@ThinkingandTinkering he works at the university of Plymouth doing interesting work on quantitative inertia (QI) he does alot of space science and thought they would be good for robotic probes.
Thanks
oh wow - thank you - the super thanks is well appreciated