MESBG TIER LIST: Good LOTR factions | MIDDLE EARTH STRATEGY BATTLE GAME

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • Tiers lists are our thing, so here's another one.
    This time we look over the good factions from the lord of the rings army book.
    obviously everything we say is always correct (especially our thoughts on Glorfindel) but please tell us on the comments your thoughts.
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  • @TylerStein-p4i
    @TylerStein-p4i 2 месяца назад +10

    I appreciate the shout out boys! You're still wrong about Glorfindel but I forgive you. Thanks for the content, always entertaining

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +2

      No problem mate, happy to have someone so blatantly wrong in our comments ❤️
      -Liam

  • @ReganSmash83
    @ReganSmash83 2 месяца назад +13

    The lack of Minas Tirith legions is an absolute crime

    • @KharnTheBtrayer
      @KharnTheBtrayer 2 месяца назад +5

      Really surprised there's not a defenders of MT list similar to defenders of HD where you take theoden and Gandalf and get mixed army list or something like that

    • @brandonkirk6498
      @brandonkirk6498 2 месяца назад

      Preach brother

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +5

      Hopefully a semi decent one comes in the new supplement.
      Hell do an appendix in it and give Gondor a Minas Tirth defence legion at the end Jesus
      -Liam

    • @connorpowell8970
      @connorpowell8970 2 месяца назад +2

      An Osgiliath Legion with S4 veterans let’s goooo

  • @robbiecarroll5383
    @robbiecarroll5383 2 месяца назад +1

    That was me!!! 8:25 that was me!!😂😂 Patty showed me the comments he sent xD and i mean every word lads thank you for your work and all your videos! You have helped me list build and impove my game play thanks to you tier list breakdowns and content! Love your work!

  • @joshmortimer3433
    @joshmortimer3433 2 месяца назад +1

    Great tier list, appreciate you doing it. Lothlorien is my favourite faction...which 2 brothers you ask... Haldir and Orophin (those 3 attacks are amazing on 85 points) are my favourite, especially at low point battles. But Rumil is also amazing. All 3 are fun to play with great special rules.

  • @sebastiencarrieres8825
    @sebastiencarrieres8825 2 месяца назад +4

    I like running Treebeard (with Merry and Pippin) with a Shire army. They are searching for the Entwives instead of helping Rohan!
    Ironically, hobbits lose the forest creature special rule because they follow Treebeard...

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Makes total sense doesn't it 😂
      -Liam

    • @sebastiencarrieres8825
      @sebastiencarrieres8825 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen I guess they are more careful to not hurt the saplings...

  • @darraghcornally8900
    @darraghcornally8900 2 месяца назад +2

    I was wondering if that video would get taken down 😂 glad I caught it in time. Twas relatable gold

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      I wish we could have kept it up, but now it's a good little inside joke to those of us who know 😉
      -Liam

  • @Elhimir
    @Elhimir 2 месяца назад +3

    Keep the shout outs coming

  • @BigWill501st
    @BigWill501st 2 месяца назад +2

    I absolutely love your channel and look forward to these videos! But can we possibly look into adding time stamps? Would be so helpful for trying to find where you left off. Thanks!!!

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Sorry mate, we both work basically full-time don't really have the time to do that and edit and film videos on top, the timestamps are actually super time consuming, only ever had the time to do it on our legions video basically
      -Liam

    • @joshuaorourke1976
      @joshuaorourke1976 2 месяца назад +2

      William be a Hero of Legend and add timestamps for us in a comment!

  • @thecreeperkingplays
    @thecreeperkingplays 2 месяца назад

    I completely agree with Khazad-dum and I think the issue is, they are a faction that can be easily fixed. Maybe adding a generic drum hero or a *taskmaster* hero would work, make Balin less points or give him an addition special rule or 3 attacks and 3 wounds.

  • @Four_Farthings_Gaming
    @Four_Farthings_Gaming 2 месяца назад

    Ingold/Madril combo is one of the best hero combos in the game. March my shield wall up to middle objective, or the most optimal choke point and challenge your opponent to get you off of it.

  • @grimgrauman7650
    @grimgrauman7650 2 месяца назад +3

    Kazad-dum has some really good units: Kings-Champion, Dwarf King kazad-guard and Vault wardens. The regular Warriors are also good. The Army bonus is good but not great (reroll 1 is really good with high strength, and it is also on the heros)
    But for some reason they still have a difficult time. 😢

    • @MathieuVuylsteke
      @MathieuVuylsteke 2 месяца назад +1

      well the reason is pretty obvious, it's the 5" movement and no access to cavalry

    • @kylemckiernan1445
      @kylemckiernan1445 2 месяца назад

      Most heroes only have 2 might too

    • @noahtremblay2676
      @noahtremblay2676 2 месяца назад

      No spears

    • @grimgrauman7650
      @grimgrauman7650 2 месяца назад

      @@noahtremblay2676 vault warden. Your spears are Vault wardens

    • @yaketysaks
      @yaketysaks 2 месяца назад

      Low might, slow moving, no mounted heroes

  • @darchensol5112
    @darchensol5112 2 месяца назад

    for fiefdoms i didn't twig this for ages but duinhirs special rule does actually do something. in a green list with the army bonus duinhir Also gives reroll 1s to himself as well as the black root archers. its like imrahil becoming a banner for himself.

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +1

      I guess that's something, but also still practically nothing, still doesn't actually effect more than those models in the army unlike every other * rule 😂
      -Liam

  • @ki5u
    @ki5u 2 месяца назад +1

    legolas can not only win a shooting war on his own, he can win a whole game on his own. Just wounding a leader and winning by 1 vp

  • @kylemckiernan1445
    @kylemckiernan1445 2 месяца назад +2

    Rank the supplemental books as a whole, what they brought to competitive play and the narrative play

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +1

      sick Idea honestly, might have to do it
      -Liam

    • @kylemckiernan1445
      @kylemckiernan1445 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen nice, but wait for Arnor to come out!

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Nah we will release the video same day the supplement drops and won't have the arnor one in it

    • @kylemckiernan1445
      @kylemckiernan1445 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen 😂 you always have the best timing

  • @EdwardEast-x1j
    @EdwardEast-x1j 2 месяца назад

    Wooow, big drop for angmar! I was right, but no spoilers! I shall wait for your video to see your review. But sexy things are coming!

  • @xenosophont
    @xenosophont 2 месяца назад +4

    Not only is this channel redpilled on the suckage of Glorfindel (and Elrohir) unlike those serious business competitive channels, but also redpilled on the meta value of LINDIR? You guys are next level visionary 4D chess MESBG maestros!
    P.S. I actually tried Lindir with Elrond and Lady of Light (a.k.a. "spooky Galadriel") recently at 700 and I gotta admit that magic rez aura stacking with Fortify Spirit and the free Will he grants his boss was pretty sweet against the good old bullshit shutdown magic. That 1 Might really sucks but big E and the LoL has 6 between them so 7 was just fine at 700pts (especially with Foresight)

    • @ClaymoreLinx
      @ClaymoreLinx 2 месяца назад

      Solid comment all around. Slinder is way more slick than people give him credit for.

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +2

      We just speaking the truth others don't want to hear. #sheeple 🤣
      Lindir is genuinely so underrated.
      I can see why you don't taking 90% of the time but that other 10% when you do.
      Brother slappps
      -Sean

    • @xenosophont
      @xenosophont 2 месяца назад

      ​@@NoobsandMen Both Lindir and Gildor would have slapped so hard with just one more Might point. Having 1 Might should really be reserved for Minor Heroes and stuff like Dunedain Rangers. I would even settle for +1 A on Lindir (makes a lot of sense on a model that can be given Heavy Armour & Horse) but some of the profiles in this game are just nonsensically bonkers without any rhyme/reason. Why the 3 Will on Lindir?

  • @davidmartin9839
    @davidmartin9839 2 месяца назад

    When you do Boz, Banner and single bolt thrower... Do you take swift reload or not?

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Yeah absolutely, single bolt Thrower should have swift reload
      -Liam

  • @siremilcrane
    @siremilcrane 2 месяца назад +1

    The sign of a good vs great loth player is knowing when to 2 hand

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +2

      Clearly the answer is 100% of the time
      -Sean

    • @Dryan91
      @Dryan91 2 месяца назад

      ​@NoobsandMen literally the answer

  • @93broome
    @93broome 7 дней назад

    You haven't got the new erebor reclaimed list on here with old dain and thorin stonhelm :(

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  6 дней назад

      They're basically the same as regular reclaimed/iron hills honestly

  • @ein-euro-rimjobber2304
    @ein-euro-rimjobber2304 21 день назад

    What is the third faction you are ranking? I cant understand it because the one dude is always laughing and called it garbage

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  20 дней назад

      Rangers faction mate

    • @ein-euro-rimjobber2304
      @ein-euro-rimjobber2304 20 дней назад

      ​@@NoobsandMenthanks :3 i am a bit deaf, so i have my problems with understanding and looking at the subtitles

  • @AdventureDan90
    @AdventureDan90 2 месяца назад

    Why is Glorfindel considered naf? his stats seem good, what am I missing?

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      He's too expensive and doesn't have any additional killing power, he'll hit a d7+ model and bounce off. When all he's bringing to the table is being a fighting hero and he can't even do that very well, it's bad. Sure he's f7 and very magic resistant but doesn't matter if he can't actually kill the model he wins the fight against
      -Liam

    • @AdventureDan90
      @AdventureDan90 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen ah ok, thank you for replying, I just bought him and some knights, elrond and the two brothers so now I think I won't get much from him😬I like his pose though so at least he'll be good to paint 😁

  • @729060
    @729060 2 месяца назад +1

    Rohan would be S if they were green with Rivendell so you could take Elrond for the priority

    • @BigWill501st
      @BigWill501st 2 месяца назад

      That’s a great point. Would be insane.

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +1

      Rohan just needs a f6 hero or two, or a reworked of the fight value system. The f5 meta has killed them honestly.
      -Liam

  • @jmaccsarmiesofArda
    @jmaccsarmiesofArda 2 месяца назад +3

    If loth dont win this ill be ragin. Haldir and the 4th brother called "Mounted captain"

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Glad we didn't get you ragin mate 😘
      -Liam

  • @xavierlemaire7620
    @xavierlemaire7620 2 месяца назад

    Arnor really should be higher than hobbits. The horde out potential is insane if you consider almost a 3rd of them will get the save, and the defense and the spears on everyone 🤢

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Said like someone who hasn't versed a solid hobbit army me thinks 😂
      -Liam

    • @xavierlemaire7620
      @xavierlemaire7620 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen Arnor winning ardacon masters proves my point 😇

  • @Four_Farthings_Gaming
    @Four_Farthings_Gaming 2 месяца назад

    I used to respect Liam’s opinion so much… until he didn’t immediately bin the stormcaller

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад

      Enchanted blades is okay 😅
      -Liam

    • @Four_Farthings_Gaming
      @Four_Farthings_Gaming 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen but is it worth 60 points to get it off maybe twice a game? Especially in Lothlorien?

    • @NoobsandMen
      @NoobsandMen  2 месяца назад +1

      Not at all 😂

    • @Four_Farthings_Gaming
      @Four_Farthings_Gaming 2 месяца назад

      @@NoobsandMen 😭