A huge issue with the modern/netherrealm mk stories is the bad guys are unbelievably pathetic and always lose all of a sudden despite being constantly told how undefeatable and strong they are Goro especially in the comics I feel bad for him lol
Yeah you’re not wrong. Goro got bodied in the comic mainly to make Kotal Kahn look strong, which is fine, but why does it have to be an OG legend like Goro 🤷♂️
character chapters ruin the powerscaling. street fighter 5 did this well with letting us play with the bad guys aswell. tekken 8 also did this. mk just needs to write a story and not give people plotarmor for 1 chapter. some fights legit never made sense even in mk9 (the best one). sonja beating bi han? sonja beating kitana and jade in a 2v1? cyber sub beating goro and kintaro in a 2v1 and ermac right after? like sub is a beast but those 3 are insane aswell lorewise.
Kung Lao : "Imagine no Mortal Kombat" Goro: "It isn't hard to do" Kung Lao : "No need for violence and beatings" Goro : "And no fatalities too" Both : "Imagine all the realms... living life in peace"
The reason Motaro was a minotaur in Armageddon was because it was deemed too difficult to animate him as a centaur in 3D graphics. This is why he's never been playable or fought against again after Armageddon, not even in MK9, while the rest of the Trilogy-era characters were, except Chameleon and Khameleon. Which is a shame, because it would be nice to be able to play as Motaro in all of his centaur glory again.
And now it's basically considered a waste of time to redevelop an entire engine just for one character. If there's ever another sprite-based MK game, putting Motaro in it will be a piece of cake, but even with my limited knowledge of 3D animation I know just how much of a pain in the ass it would be to put him in a game with 3D models, and how much development time that would potentially waste only for everybody and their dog to find every glitch and flaw with it on day one.
@@reloadpsi Doesn't help that he'd need unique animations for each fatality because of his unique skeleton. The shokan _kind_ of get away with it, but you can see how the animators don't really account for the extra limbs.
@@SlimeBlueMS And I would rather not have that awkward exception. Having one specific character that can't take a Fatality would just feel off -- at that point you might as well cut them entirely.
I’m glad my boy Moloch got some love. I was expecting this video to just shit on him for being a bland character which admittedly he is, but his purpose was to just introduce his race and be intimidated. You can say the same for Kintaro and Motaro who, just like Moloch, haven’t really done much in the lore. Big ups for Moloch love 👏🏽 Also, I would say Hsu Hao, Kobra and Hotaru are forgotten. MK fans, for better or worse, always bring them up. I personally would love to see them make a comeback in a new, interesting and fresh way.
Moloch was legit terrifying when the game came out. Both him and Onaga just had that... "Oh shit, it just got real!" Vibe to them. You're trapped inside a single room with no way out, and you *have* to face them. Add onto that they could wreck you with ease. MK really lacks moments like that these days, I think.
Goro is in MK1 as a Kameo, Motaro is in MK1 as a Kameo...come on now, Kintaro HAS to be playable! If Sheeva's playable AGAIN instead of Kintaro, I'm gonna be so pissed.
I swear Midway era of MK give so many bosses in MK games. For sub-boss we have Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, and Moloch. For final boss we have Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Onaga, Blaze, and Dark Kahn. Then come NRS era of MK...they just make Kronika. The rest is just a repeat the same bosses. Even MK1 just repeat Shang Tsung again, literally after we just see him as the main villain in MK11 Aftermath. Seriously NRS doesn't have any creative idea to create new boss now...
@@claysoggyfriesagreed…STRONGLY! The fact motaro can reflect ur own projectiles back @ u & the ability 2 teleport is the KEY part of why he’s so broken.
I’ve never successfully defeated Kintaro without using cheat codes. “All the good ones end in O” ;) great video, as always! Have you thought about ranking which game had the best in-game secrets? That could be fun!
If one is a novice then kintaro is harder than motaro If you learn how to defeat kintaro and learn his AI then he’s still hard but easier than motaro Reason being is motaro is easier to land hits on but he does it on purpose to allow you to drop your guard which in turn allows him To Defeat you turning the fight around quickly he did that a lot He lets you think he’s just letting himself be beaten this is easy then he just grabs you teleports beams you repeats 😒 so while he may be slightly Less savage than kintaro,motaro is smarter in kombat in terms of using strategy to win like I just mentioned MOTARO LETS HIMSELF BE HIT before he goes in for the win himself with kintaro he is savage so you nvr drop your guard Motaro Getting strategy to drop your guard and then using strategy and teleports and speed is a hard to predict combination that’s a lot harder to predict and thus counter than kintaro Hardest thing about kintaro is his teleport stomp but once you learn to counter it you master it and it allows you to defeat him Motaros teleport isn’t an attack it’s just a teleport so less threatnint than kintaros teleport stomp in that way but motaros teleport is meant to do just that evade attacks but he uses it to fool you teleporting constantly faster than ki taros stomp and it is meant to confuse you and part of motaros strategy to win and even if you know what he’s doing it’s hard to predict where he will end on screen and harder to counter bcuz of it Point being that once you learn to master countering kintaro he is t as hard but g even doing the same with motaro it only gets you so far Kintaro Is initially harder if you have no idea how to properly win but once you learn kintaro and motaro Motaro is harder
I thought about it but there’s not much to say. Plus Shao Kahn will always be a boss character to me and I wanted to wait to cover him in a boss tier list.
On the arcade, the only person I could beat Motaro with was sheeva, using only the stomp. He seemed to have no response to it. Using any other character, Motaro was broken.
Motaro was easy because of the stun he takes off of uppercut ended combos so the ninjas and Kitana to name a few made him a chump. Goro and Kintaro plagued me in their original games and mk9
I like Moloch. I like how he fights with a giant wrecking ball in his hand, I like his little donkey-like tail, I like his third eye,I like how he and Drahmin are kinda BFFs. He's cute. He does his best.
miss the days mk actually gave us BS subbosses and bosses and not the weak playable versions or even no bosses like mk1. hell ed if you wanna make em playable just keep em playable in arcade mode and maybe story mode, give us the bs power for a while and keep em outta multiplayer.
4:04 Imagine if Kung Lao initiated a new war between Shokan and Edenia. If I were Kitana, I would have him jailed for years. He could've waited till Goro was back in Outworld. No wonder she prefers Liu Kang lol.
Personally I prefer Kintaro to Goro, sadly they didn't give him the same spotlight. My favorite overall boss would be Motaro. What a beast. Also yes, him being a minotaur instead of a centaur just somehow didn't work for me.
@@FAiRWAYx There's also another thing, I kind of think that their respective animations (Kintaro and Motaro) played a role in how good they looked in older games. The sporadic hand movements of both of them kind of looked menacing, while when they included them in more recent games, they just looked tame somehow. Less of a boss, more of a regular fighter.
MK1 (2024) Goro looks so bad. they made him so much smaller, he just looks like a middle aged 6'2" guy who works out a little more than average (and happens to have 4 arms)
@FractalSpaces Ghostball just reflects off of him and hits you 🤔 I could still beat him with Noob by running in and drilling him with the kick string though.
Im suprised how many people dont know how to cheese moloch. Use Johnny Cage, nunchucks, mash one button (i forget which one, the one with the 4 hit combo) Its an infinite against moloch since moloch cant be knocked down.
Goro and Kintaro should be considered two sides of the same coin They are a package deal Both are awesome and basically the same Goro is the primary Kintaro is the level up
It's just as well not to include her. Despite being a sub-boss she played like a normal character and didn't have boss mechanics like the others did. She was just the closest thing to a sub-boss you could get from the female roster. MK can use a proper female sub-boss, and in the new era it might be cool to see Cetrion or an adult Ferra step into the role... or maybe an even nastier and more powerful D'vorah.
Yeah that’s a good point. I probably should’ve clarified combining two pre-existing characters into one playable character, but you’re not wrong with Ferra/Torr.
Kintaro is super S. I spent years trying to beat that boss and only did so once by a flukk and then got wasted by the final boss. Also, HOW THE FUCK IS HE DODGING THAT OFFSCREEN JUMP BY HOPPING AWAY? FFS, He always hit me no matter what with that jump, even if I did hop away.
Is it kinda weird that I mostly just want Motaro to stay a side character like he was in mk1? While it would be amazing to play him again, I feel like bringing him back in his full playable glory will result in nrs nerfing him to hell and back, and making him a jobber like Goro and Kintaro in mk9.
I will say this as many times as I need to: there is not a more intimidating sub-boss that MK4 Goro and MK3 Motaro. The way they look in those games is just insanely good. For that alone I would put them together in S Tier. Also, also, why is it that your voice sounds so familiar?
I bought mk4 two months ago he is a lot harder in mk4 than in original mk1 at least the mk1 home ports like snes genesis The arcade mk1 was far harder and closer to what mk4 goro was But home console mk1 goro was pathetic 😂 lol Mk4 goro brought him to mk3 motaro difficulty level and you’re right These are the two hardest subbosses Kintaro CAN BE the hardest If you’re a player that doesn’t learn to master battling kintaro but once you properly learn to counter him he becomes easier than motaro bcuz even learning motaro he is still hard to counter even if you kno what hhe w doing he’s just too fast I enjoy mk3 motaro and mk4 goro I also enjoyed quan chi in mk mythologies He was the sub boss of mk4 in arcade and im sure he was probably harder then other normal characters in terms of difficulty setting at least egen ir not we much as goro I want to say where shao Kahn was having armor shinnok could y even be hurt but that’s a story for another day loll
I would put Motaro on par with Goro just because he’s just as big, if not bigger, than Goro and had a unique set of moves that made him much harder to fight against than Goro or Kintaro. The Minotaur idea isn’t bad as an excuse to work around the horse body programming but it was poorly executed, they could’ve said that they’re required to perform a ritual to keep their bodies or something. I also think that Moloch could just be another character than a boss character unless they made him bigger, bulkier, and do some kind of special move that makes the player unresponsive or trigger a berserk mode.
@@FAiRWAYx If they said that their ancestors were the ones who gave humans the exposure to a half man and half horse or bull monster is then it would help.
I just classify Shao Kahn more as a primary boss so it felt wrong breaking him down as a sub-boss, but obviously Darkseid and Shao Kahn are iconic in their own right
Kintaro in my opinion looks more deadly and imposing than goro. And feel like he should be more of a higher ranking character with more of a deadly aura. He looks awesome in mk2
Something that I found funny, and somewhat hypocritical when it comes to the MK fanbase at large, which was brought up in this video. Motaro is introduced in MK3, having killed Johnny Cage as a way of building up his credibility. Fans are just okay with this fact, you never hear outrage. Fast forward to MKX and MK11, where it's a similar situation with D'Vorah. New character introduced, gets some kills to her name to build credibility as a villainous character, and it gets the complete opposite reaction 😂
How old are you like 12 and basing all your opinion on the latest version of the sub boss?have you even played any of the games that these sub bosses debut in? Let me give you the run down as 35 year old OG MK player play against motaro it'll take you 2 maybe 3 tries to beat him play agianst goro maybe 10 max but play against kintaro I'll give you 50 tries and then tell me hes not the real S tier sub boss he's more difficult than shao Kahn in that game...and your ranking on difficulty is an obvious lie so stop the cap
In all of gaming history or at least from my perspective, Goro is the ultimate end game boss. After I beat him, the fight after him was cake. No other game has caused that kind of anxiety for me when facing an NPC in a duel or fight. Deathstroke comes close but only for the theatrics..
I loved the old school big Sub bosses from MK, but MKX-1 has really dropped the ball on subbosses. MK1 technically doesn't even have a subboss, instead using a mirror match as a next to last fight.
Kintaro WAS the hardest IF you didn’t learn the AI in mk2 and even if you did he was still hard but to be fair he WAS more predictable than motaro. Motaros teleport was not a retaliation move unlike kintaros stomp however the teleport stomp can be punished it’s just hard to do so but it can be done and as far as motaros teleport it’s a lot less “punishable” and a lot more effective for him bcuz I think it’s main purpose is to fool you and confuse you whiicbin itself Is what can lead motaro to defeat you. Once you learn how to defeat kintaro he becomes easier than motaro..then motaro becomes the hardest however motaros teleport happens instantly so again it’s easier to wound motaro and land hits bcuz he allows himself to be hit by you on purpose unlike motaro but that’s part of motaros game to allow you to Wound him in order for you to let your guard down and then he grabs you throws you teleports and repeats then blasts you to death lol motaro uses a lot more strategy to win than kintaro and more than ppl realize. He lets himself be beat up on purpose to get you to Let your guard down which is when he tends to strike and that’s when he punishes You. Motaro was hard but honestly moloch was terribly hard bcuz unlike kintaro and predicting AI you just had to weaken moloch fair and square and that was hard there bi easy way to beat moloch the others rely on what you’re going to do to strike back moloch just punishes you regardless he’s annoying and I don’t like him but he’s hard to beat and the hardest to predict
One can wipe the floor with Goro as Lui Kang Goro in MK1 (arcade) by spamming fire balls and flying kicks, cheap I know! But not as cheap as MK 1&2 CPU
I like Moloch i dont care what anyone says. Hes like one of the Gorognites from Small Soldiers. He has a cool chilling Howl, he has a cool ball as a weapon and looks like a mutated hulking Donkey with 3 glowing eyes XD
Shang Tsung was the best fight in MK9 imo. Shao Kahn was just cheap and all you have to do to best Kintaro or Goro is just stay on their back. Shang Tsung was the the best test of the player's skill and the most fun.
I get all the bosses that end up as sub-bosses in Armageddon aren't added to this list, but it would be cool to see how onaga, Scorpion, Shao Khan, Shinnok, and the deadly alliance shape up against these 5
I think MK 9 Shang sung should have been in sub bosses even though he is 2 fights before the boss I think what defines a sub boss is a character that is not as strong as a boss but stronger than the average characters you have fought during the tower which i think he is.
Motaro was the bane of my existence growing up. I was poor. And i had a super nintendo all the way up till i got a ps2. And mk3 was one of 3 games i had.mk3 Motaro and shao kahn are burned into my memory forever
Which sub-boss haunted your dreams? ⬇️⬇️
Unless it's fanart, none of them.
All final bosses next please
Motaro..
I said all final bosses next please
Moloch in deadly alliance can be easily beaten with Sonya I would always die and switch to her and beat him first try with her weapons
Growing up my brother always told me goro had 8 butts and for some reason i never doubted it
Lmao
Thats because he does
Mine told me he had two "D"s
Anatomy of Shokans is terrifying...
😂
I love how Goro and the other shokans were animated with stop motion! It kinda gives them an old-school horror vibe
Absolutely!!
A huge issue with the modern/netherrealm mk stories is the bad guys are unbelievably pathetic and always lose all of a sudden despite being constantly told how undefeatable and strong they are
Goro especially in the comics I feel bad for him lol
Yeah you’re not wrong. Goro got bodied in the comic mainly to make Kotal Kahn look strong, which is fine, but why does it have to be an OG legend like Goro 🤷♂️
@FAiRWAYx Then Kotal got jobbed in X and 11. Bro lost to Kung Jin.
@@czar9341 the storytelling is not this series’ strong suit
character chapters ruin the powerscaling. street fighter 5 did this well with letting us play with the bad guys aswell. tekken 8 also did this. mk just needs to write a story and not give people plotarmor for 1 chapter. some fights legit never made sense even in mk9 (the best one). sonja beating bi han? sonja beating kitana and jade in a 2v1? cyber sub beating goro and kintaro in a 2v1 and ermac right after? like sub is a beast but those 3 are insane aswell lorewise.
MK Gold Goro and Kung Lao having truce was so dumb. Goro: “hey thanks for cutting me…let’s be friends.” Might as well of been that outcome. Lol
Those cut scenes are comedy, though. 😂
Friendship!?
I always had it interesting to make peace with villains or rivals
Kung Lao : "Imagine no Mortal Kombat"
Goro: "It isn't hard to do"
Kung Lao : "No need for violence and beatings"
Goro : "And no fatalities too"
Both : "Imagine all the realms... living life in peace"
Goro initially had the upper “hands” against Kotal
Goro seems like a nice guy. Polite, loyal, honorable. He's misunderstood.
He did turn good briefly!
He 's a prince after all
The reason Motaro was a minotaur in Armageddon was because it was deemed too difficult to animate him as a centaur in 3D graphics. This is why he's never been playable or fought against again after Armageddon, not even in MK9, while the rest of the Trilogy-era characters were, except Chameleon and Khameleon. Which is a shame, because it would be nice to be able to play as Motaro in all of his centaur glory again.
They could figure it out I think based on how incredible games look nowadays
And now it's basically considered a waste of time to redevelop an entire engine just for one character.
If there's ever another sprite-based MK game, putting Motaro in it will be a piece of cake, but even with my limited knowledge of 3D animation I know just how much of a pain in the ass it would be to put him in a game with 3D models, and how much development time that would potentially waste only for everybody and their dog to find every glitch and flaw with it on day one.
@@reloadpsi Doesn't help that he'd need unique animations for each fatality because of his unique skeleton. The shokan _kind_ of get away with it, but you can see how the animators don't really account for the extra limbs.
Or do what they did in mk3; you can't do fatalities on him.
I'd rather that small sacrifice rather than... well... never playing as him again
@@SlimeBlueMS And I would rather not have that awkward exception. Having one specific character that can't take a Fatality would just feel off -- at that point you might as well cut them entirely.
I’m glad my boy Moloch got some love. I was expecting this video to just shit on him for being a bland character which admittedly he is, but his purpose was to just introduce his race and be intimidated. You can say the same for Kintaro and Motaro who, just like Moloch, haven’t really done much in the lore. Big ups for Moloch love 👏🏽
Also, I would say Hsu Hao, Kobra and Hotaru are forgotten. MK fans, for better or worse, always bring them up. I personally would love to see them make a comeback in a new, interesting and fresh way.
Yeah I should’ve clarified that I meant forgotten by the developers, not the fandom. I think Moloch gets a bad rap but he’s pretty cool
Moloch was legit terrifying when the game came out. Both him and Onaga just had that...
"Oh shit, it just got real!" Vibe to them. You're trapped inside a single room with no way out, and you *have* to face them. Add onto that they could wreck you with ease.
MK really lacks moments like that these days, I think.
Motaro is still my favorite sub boss other than Goro. Plus Motaro was one of the few good things about MK3
Absolutely
There were many things cool about MK3
Say it with me:
Put Kintaro In MK1 Already!
I agree! Goro's in MKX, Sheeva is in MK11, so Kintaro has to be in MK1!
No
Goro is in MK1 as a Kameo, Motaro is in MK1 as a Kameo...come on now, Kintaro HAS to be playable! If Sheeva's playable AGAIN instead of Kintaro, I'm gonna be so pissed.
I swear Midway era of MK give so many bosses in MK games. For sub-boss we have Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, and Moloch. For final boss we have Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Onaga, Blaze, and Dark Kahn. Then come NRS era of MK...they just make Kronika. The rest is just a repeat the same bosses. Even MK1 just repeat Shang Tsung again, literally after we just see him as the main villain in MK11 Aftermath. Seriously NRS doesn't have any creative idea to create new boss now...
Really shows the lack of creativity with Kronika and MK1's "Deadly Alliance."
They don't feel like bosses, more so glorified jobbers.
The NRS sub boss is wokeness used against the player.
Noob Smoke was a non-monster sub boss because the final boss of that game was a monster.
Yeah that makes sense
how did he not realize that?! Noob Smoke are A tier EASILY.
motaro is playable through a code in mk3 og same with shao except only against other people
I don't think there is no boss in videogame history as broken as Motaro
He was the better version of Goro
i think shang tsung reading all of your inputs before you even hit him might be MORE broken
@@altide8784 Better as in more broken
@@claysoggyfriesagreed…STRONGLY! The fact motaro can reflect ur own projectiles back @ u & the ability 2 teleport is the KEY part of why he’s so broken.
Goro is a character I think belongs in every MK. Such an iconic design.
Agreed
Kintaro's design in MK 11 was the best
Such a sick cameo
You say "design" I say ".png"
And Goro's.
@@ATAS18. Goro's redesign as a corpse?
@@BBoy4040 Yes.
Now they make all these legendary sub bosses into henchmen punching bags for the heroes to beat
They have their moments, but yeah, it’s a sad state for sub-bosses.
Sadly that’s just how the story mode is going to go in almost all fighting games
I’ve never successfully defeated Kintaro without using cheat codes. “All the good ones end in O” ;) great video, as always! Have you thought about ranking which game had the best in-game secrets? That could be fun!
Love that idea!
I wish MK respected it's sub bosses more. Kintaro was a straight up jobber in the lore.
Yeah, dying to two Kombat Kids is a rough way to go
Great tier list, Final Boss tier list next
It’s on the list 100%
I tried to defeat Kintaro in Mortal Kombat 2 but he was too strong for me
Took me forever lol
ALL TOO EASY.
Anyway yeah I cheesed with subzero spam and dodged a lot to defeat Kintaro in MKII.
If one is a novice then kintaro is harder than motaro
If you learn how to defeat kintaro and learn his AI then he’s still hard but easier than motaro
Reason being is motaro is easier to land hits on but he does it on purpose to allow you to drop your guard which in turn allows him
To
Defeat you turning the fight around quickly he did that a lot
He lets you think he’s just letting himself be beaten this is easy then he just grabs you teleports beams you repeats 😒 so while he may be slightly
Less savage than kintaro,motaro is smarter in kombat in terms of using strategy to win like I just mentioned MOTARO LETS HIMSELF BE HIT before he goes in for the win himself with kintaro he is savage so you nvr drop your guard
Motaro
Getting strategy to drop your guard and then using strategy and teleports and speed is a hard to predict combination that’s a lot harder to predict and thus counter than kintaro
Hardest thing about kintaro is his teleport stomp but once you learn to counter it you master it and it allows you to defeat him
Motaros teleport isn’t an attack it’s just a teleport so less threatnint than kintaros teleport stomp in that way but motaros teleport is meant to do just that evade attacks but he uses it to fool you teleporting constantly faster than ki taros stomp and it is meant to confuse you and part of motaros strategy to win and even if you know what he’s doing it’s hard to predict where he will end on screen and harder to counter bcuz of it
Point being that once you learn to master countering kintaro he is t as hard but g even doing the same with motaro it only gets you so far
Kintaro
Is initially harder if you have no idea how to properly win but once you learn kintaro and motaro
Motaro is harder
Just jump straight up and kick his super stomp
Motaro would have been a perfect Final Boss
For sure
Too much good content I have no choice but to sub!
My Rankings:
5. Noob/Smoke
4. Motaro
3. Molock (Underrated ASF!)
2. Kintaro
1. Goro
Very nice!
You listed motaro twice and left off kintaro
@@secondchances1232 oops edited
You should've added Darkseid and Shao Kahn from MK vs DCU since you fight them before Dark Khan .
I thought about it but there’s not much to say. Plus Shao Kahn will always be a boss character to me and I wanted to wait to cover him in a boss tier list.
Kintaro's best design is MK2, no doubt. His design didn't translate well to 3D models, the cameo in MK11 maybe is the exception.
Yeah the MK11 model deserved a shout in this video
Kintaro made the arcade machines a fortune in MK2. He was an absolute nightmare!! Motaro was a close second.
The AI alone made them a fortune 😂
@@FAiRWAYx yep. That rigged AI when you try and uppercut them and you always get thrown. Ugh...
Yes! I only put Kintaro at the top because you could do the kick cheat on Motaro. Kintaro was a beast in MK2
On the arcade, the only person I could beat Motaro with was sheeva, using only the stomp. He seemed to have no response to it. Using any other character, Motaro was broken.
I tried using Sheeva in the Arcade Kollection and it did not work out well for me
Motaro was easy because of the stun he takes off of uppercut ended combos so the ninjas and Kitana to name a few made him a chump. Goro and Kintaro plagued me in their original games and mk9
I like Moloch. I like how he fights with a giant wrecking ball in his hand, I like his little donkey-like tail, I like his third eye,I like how he and Drahmin are kinda BFFs. He's cute. He does his best.
MK2 was the best version of Kintaro. I feel like he got smaller and nerfed after the comics billed his sub-race as inferior to goros
Only the lore masters remember his dialogue with Kitana in MKX
The most difficult top:
1. Moloch in the hardest difficulty
2. Kintaro
3. Goro
4. Motaro
Kintaro is one of my all time favorite mk characters, wish he was in more games
miss the days mk actually gave us BS subbosses and bosses and not the weak playable versions or even no bosses like mk1. hell ed if you wanna make em playable just keep em playable in arcade mode and maybe story mode, give us the bs power for a while and keep em outta multiplayer.
Good List but for me.
First Kintaro
Second Goro
Third Noob-Smoke
fourth Motaro
Last Moloch
Motaro last?!
Bruh ain't no way
@@FAiRWAYx I ment to say 4th Motaro and Moloch last. Let me go fix that.
@@targetcj4894 not bad
4:04 Imagine if Kung Lao initiated a new war between Shokan and Edenia. If I were Kitana, I would have him jailed for years. He could've waited till Goro was back in Outworld. No wonder she prefers Liu Kang lol.
Lmao just tossing hats like nobody’s business
Personally I prefer Kintaro to Goro, sadly they didn't give him the same spotlight. My favorite overall boss would be Motaro. What a beast. Also yes, him being a minotaur instead of a centaur just somehow didn't work for me.
Yeah I get why they did it but I was not a fan
@@FAiRWAYx There's also another thing, I kind of think that their respective animations (Kintaro and Motaro) played a role in how good they looked in older games. The sporadic hand movements of both of them kind of looked menacing, while when they included them in more recent games, they just looked tame somehow. Less of a boss, more of a regular fighter.
@@PhoeniXBG definitely less menacing in recent games 100%
i feel like in mortal kombat lore, in the arcade era and the modern reboot era, Many of the characters skills are hardly on display. Not just Goro.
Yeah probably because it’s challenging to convey in 8-bit/16-bit with minimal cutscenes/story modes etc.
I've never seen this molock until now , his ok , nothing special or scary at all , Goro ,Kintaro and Motaro was scary in the arcades
MK1 (2024) Goro looks so bad. they made him so much smaller, he just looks like a middle aged 6'2" guy who works out a little more than average (and happens to have 4 arms)
I don’t think he looks that bad but it’s certainly not his best look
@5:47 weakened Shao Kahn eh? Explains a lot for unchained and Armageddon😅...
I remember being a kid , the only way I could beat moloch, was by spamming him with nunchucks by Johnny cage
😂
Motaro was pretty easy for me especially as scorpion and human smoke!
for me as noob, just psamming ghostball and doing combos iirc
I used Cyber Smoke and it took me a while to beat him. Perhaps I should’ve tried other characters lmao
@FractalSpaces Ghostball just reflects off of him and hits you 🤔
I could still beat him with Noob by running in and drilling him with the kick string though.
@@umbrascitor2079 ahh yes, but i vividly remember hitting him with it. must've been a modified copy, since i had found it off the play store.
Ive just noticed that Kanos voice sounds an awful lot like Jack Sparrows lol
Goro is the GOAT Sub-boss. Motaro was the most difficult IMO but Goro TERRIFIED as a child. I wasnt even afraid to fight Shang Tsung after him. 😂😂
Even though he turned into Goro haha
Wasnt Sheeva a sub boss in MKA?
There were way too many sub-bosses in MKA to count
No, she wasn't. Sub bosses were Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, Shao Kahn, Moloch or Onaga in MKA
@@damientaylor7480 she was a sub boss in Armageddon on the female only tower
@@johnnymullins1331 there was no all female tower
I love how goro is a beast in game but a jobber in the storyline outside of maybe mk1
I was appalled by how badly they nerfed him in the 2021 movie. It was pathetic.
Im suprised how many people dont know how to cheese moloch. Use Johnny Cage, nunchucks, mash one button (i forget which one, the one with the 4 hit combo) Its an infinite against moloch since moloch cant be knocked down.
Did not know this!
Goro and Kintaro should be considered two sides of the same coin
They are a package deal
Both are awesome and basically the same
Goro is the primary
Kintaro is the level up
Goro is just far more established, but I mostly agree
Why does this guy ignore 11? Idc if goro was dead, it still needs to be mentioned.
What’s there to say?
Shang tsung as the sub sub boss in mk2 always gave a hard time. I could beat kintaro in mk2 easier.
It was the opposite for me. Even knowing the cheap stuff I had trouble with Kintaro
When you babilty Kintaro, you will uncover that Kintaro is the best :)
Personally motaro is S cuz he did scare me as a little kid
Subbed, zero. gonna scorpion all your videos and get over here..
I know, that was terrible.
Love it! 😂
False noob and smoke came in trilogy first along with a bunch of other characters
What?
What about Sheeva? She was the sub boss for the female ladder in Armageddon
Most sources I found had like a bunch of different sub-bosses for MKA so I just ignored it entirely
It's just as well not to include her. Despite being a sub-boss she played like a normal character and didn't have boss mechanics like the others did. She was just the closest thing to a sub-boss you could get from the female roster.
MK can use a proper female sub-boss, and in the new era it might be cool to see Cetrion or an adult Ferra step into the role... or maybe an even nastier and more powerful D'vorah.
Poo Gore I was defeated by Johnny Cage not Lu Kane so stop lying and or shut your mouth
You’re just wrong, but that’s fine ✌️
noob/smoke use to kick the shit out of me when I was a kid
Yeah he was actually pretty tough but not compared to the others
I found goro harder than shang tuang he was the true final boss in orignal mk1 to me
Both were very tough for me, especially Shang with the skulls.
31:56 not true, the second is Ferra/Torr
Yeah that’s a good point. I probably should’ve clarified combining two pre-existing characters into one playable character, but you’re not wrong with Ferra/Torr.
Kintaro is super S. I spent years trying to beat that boss and only did so once by a flukk and then got wasted by the final boss. Also, HOW THE FUCK IS HE DODGING THAT OFFSCREEN JUMP BY HOPPING AWAY? FFS, He always hit me no matter what with that jump, even if I did hop away.
GORO!!!
catGORO
GORObuthorse!
GOROdragon
man MK has such variety!
Is it kinda weird that I mostly just want Motaro to stay a side character like he was in mk1? While it would be amazing to play him again, I feel like bringing him back in his full playable glory will result in nrs nerfing him to hell and back, and making him a jobber like Goro and Kintaro in mk9.
I just don’t see how they can make him playable and have it be good. I think he’s the perfect Kameo character.
Motaro gave me nightmares on UMK. I found it harder than Shao Kahn.
I thought that and then I played Shao Kahn again and had serious trouble lol
I will say this as many times as I need to: there is not a more intimidating sub-boss that MK4 Goro and MK3 Motaro. The way they look in those games is just insanely good. For that alone I would put them together in S Tier.
Also, also, why is it that your voice sounds so familiar?
Yeah I wish we saw more of Motaro to warrant S tier, but he’s close. Perhaps I have a generic voice haha I’m not sure
Well, I don't know about generic but it makes for a great voice-over to hear
I bought mk4 two months ago he is a lot harder in mk4 than in original mk1 at least the mk1 home ports like snes genesis
The arcade mk1 was far harder and closer to what mk4 goro was
But home console mk1 goro was pathetic 😂 lol
Mk4 goro brought him to mk3 motaro difficulty level and you’re right
These are the two hardest subbosses
Kintaro CAN BE the hardest If you’re a player that doesn’t learn to master battling kintaro but once you properly learn to counter him he becomes easier than motaro bcuz even learning motaro he is still hard to counter even if you kno what hhe w doing he’s just too fast
I enjoy mk3 motaro and mk4 goro
I also enjoyed quan chi in mk mythologies
He was the sub boss of mk4 in arcade and im sure he was probably harder then other normal characters in terms of difficulty setting at least egen ir not we much as goro
I want to say where shao Kahn was having armor shinnok could y even be hurt but that’s a story for another day loll
Kintaro gave my cousins a time on
The SNES years ago
Amazing how we can revisit the game in 2024 and still have trouble lol
@@FAiRWAYx right.
@@FAiRWAYx it was when he jumped
In the air and stomp on you.
Hey plz mkx variant community posts
I got you
5:21 the power of friendship...
I would put Motaro on par with Goro just because he’s just as big, if not bigger, than Goro and had a unique set of moves that made him much harder to fight against than Goro or Kintaro. The Minotaur idea isn’t bad as an excuse to work around the horse body programming but it was poorly executed, they could’ve said that they’re required to perform a ritual to keep their bodies or something. I also think that Moloch could just be another character than a boss character unless they made him bigger, bulkier, and do some kind of special move that makes the player unresponsive or trigger a berserk mode.
I thought Motaro looked fine as a Minotaur, but the explanation was weak. If Motaro was more established I would’ve put him in S
@@FAiRWAYx If they said that their ancestors were the ones who gave humans the exposure to a half man and half horse or bull monster is then it would help.
Why the hell they stop putting sun bosses in
No clue but I hope they come back
Man ive always love Kung Lao's ending in MK4
I wonder what you think of both shao Kahn & darkseid in dcu? Since I’m not sure if they count as a sub boss since you fight both before dark-Kahn.
I just classify Shao Kahn more as a primary boss so it felt wrong breaking him down as a sub-boss, but obviously Darkseid and Shao Kahn are iconic in their own right
Motaro was the most rage inducing mf...dude was WORSE than Shao in UMK3
I thought that at first but Shao Kahn is a menace
@@FAiRWAYx man having to fight those two back to back.....I went through a few controllers lol
@@khaosking2937 Same here lmao
Motaro is definitely ahead of Kintaro. His cry alone gave me nightmares.
Nightmare fuel for sure
Kintaro in my opinion looks more deadly and imposing than goro. And feel like he should be more of a higher ranking character with more of a deadly aura.
He looks awesome in mk2
Goro is just more developed and treated slightly better in the lore, albeit not by much lol
MK 3 Motaro and Mk4 Goro is the most broken one
Yeah they're insane
Kintaro for mk1 (as a fighter)
Mk 9 had the best bosses. Their goro and kintaro, plus their shao Kahn was peak.
Yeah, you’re not wrong
They made Cyrax and Sektor female, and Cyrax is African, how many African Ninjas do you guys remember hearing about?😂
Something that I found funny, and somewhat hypocritical when it comes to the MK fanbase at large, which was brought up in this video.
Motaro is introduced in MK3, having killed Johnny Cage as a way of building up his credibility. Fans are just okay with this fact, you never hear outrage. Fast forward to MKX and MK11, where it's a similar situation with D'Vorah. New character introduced, gets some kills to her name to build credibility as a villainous character, and it gets the complete opposite reaction 😂
Kintaro is my all time favorite! I even named my cat after him.😂
How old are you like 12 and basing all your opinion on the latest version of the sub boss?have you even played any of the games that these sub bosses debut in? Let me give you the run down as 35 year old OG MK player play against motaro it'll take you 2 maybe 3 tries to beat him play agianst goro maybe 10 max but play against kintaro I'll give you 50 tries and then tell me hes not the real S tier sub boss he's more difficult than shao Kahn in that game...and your ranking on difficulty is an obvious lie so stop the cap
In all of gaming history or at least from my perspective, Goro is the ultimate end game boss. After I beat him, the fight after him was cake. No other game has caused that kind of anxiety for me when facing an NPC in a duel or fight. Deathstroke comes close but only for the theatrics..
I loved the old school big Sub bosses from MK, but MKX-1 has really dropped the ball on subbosses. MK1 technically doesn't even have a subboss, instead using a mirror match as a next to last fight.
Kintaro WAS the hardest IF you didn’t learn the AI in mk2 and even if you did he was still hard but to be fair he WAS more predictable than motaro. Motaros teleport was not a retaliation move unlike kintaros stomp however the teleport stomp can be punished it’s just hard to do so but it can be done and as far as motaros teleport it’s a lot less “punishable” and a lot more effective for him bcuz I think it’s main purpose is to fool you and confuse you whiicbin itself
Is what can lead motaro to defeat you.
Once you learn how to defeat kintaro he becomes easier than motaro..then motaro becomes the hardest however motaros teleport happens instantly so again it’s easier to wound motaro and land hits bcuz he allows himself to be hit by you on purpose unlike motaro but that’s part of motaros game to allow you to
Wound him in order for you to let your guard down and then he grabs you throws you teleports and repeats then blasts you to death lol motaro uses a lot more strategy to win than kintaro and more than ppl realize. He lets himself be beat up on purpose to get you to
Let your guard down which is when he tends to strike and that’s when he punishes
You. Motaro was hard but honestly moloch was terribly hard bcuz unlike kintaro and predicting AI you just had to weaken moloch fair and square and that was hard there bi easy way to beat moloch the others rely on what you’re going to do to strike back moloch just punishes you regardless he’s annoying and I don’t like him but he’s hard to beat and the hardest to predict
Yeah Motaro was unpredictable, which made him a pain to beat
One can wipe the floor with Goro as Lui Kang Goro in MK1 (arcade) by spamming fire balls and flying kicks, cheap I know! But not as cheap as MK 1&2 CPU
I like Moloch i dont care what anyone says. Hes like one of the Gorognites from Small Soldiers. He has a cool chilling Howl, he has a cool ball as a weapon and looks like a mutated hulking Donkey with 3 glowing eyes XD
Shang Tsung was the best fight in MK9 imo. Shao Kahn was just cheap and all you have to do to best Kintaro or Goro is just stay on their back. Shang Tsung was the the best test of the player's skill and the most fun.
D Tier?
Sheeva...
I get all the bosses that end up as sub-bosses in Armageddon aren't added to this list, but it would be cool to see how onaga, Scorpion, Shao Khan, Shinnok, and the deadly alliance shape up against these 5
21:00 the longer it went on the more scary he looks
Lmao
I think MK 9 Shang sung should have been in sub bosses even though he is 2 fights before the boss I think what defines a sub boss is a character that is not as strong as a boss but stronger than the average characters you have fought during the tower which i think he is.
No one's list are ever as legit as yours
Thanks bro ❤️
Great video. Nice clips and editing, audio too!
Motaro was the bane of my existence growing up. I was poor. And i had a super nintendo all the way up till i got a ps2. And mk3 was one of 3 games i had.mk3 Motaro and shao kahn are burned into my memory forever
Same here, but I think it made our generation stronger lmao
MK comics = bullshit. Bullshit to make money by selling it to bullshit eaters
Motaro in mk3 was the hardest. Constantly spamming teleport and no projectiles could hit him, making most special moves useless
If you didnt know, johny cage was killed off becouse his irl actor for the game endorsed a different fighting game, bloodstorm
I feel like Kintaro was tougher than Goro, but maybe that's just me?! 🤷♂️