A huge issue with the modern/netherrealm mk stories is the bad guys are unbelievably pathetic and always lose all of a sudden despite being constantly told how undefeatable and strong they are Goro especially in the comics I feel bad for him lol
Yeah you’re not wrong. Goro got bodied in the comic mainly to make Kotal Kahn look strong, which is fine, but why does it have to be an OG legend like Goro 🤷♂️
character chapters ruin the powerscaling. street fighter 5 did this well with letting us play with the bad guys aswell. tekken 8 also did this. mk just needs to write a story and not give people plotarmor for 1 chapter. some fights legit never made sense even in mk9 (the best one). sonja beating bi han? sonja beating kitana and jade in a 2v1? cyber sub beating goro and kintaro in a 2v1 and ermac right after? like sub is a beast but those 3 are insane aswell lorewise.
The reason Motaro was a minotaur in Armageddon was because it was deemed too difficult to animate him as a centaur in 3D graphics. This is why he's never been playable or fought against again after Armageddon, not even in MK9, while the rest of the Trilogy-era characters were, except Chameleon and Khameleon. Which is a shame, because it would be nice to be able to play as Motaro in all of his centaur glory again.
And now it's basically considered a waste of time to redevelop an entire engine just for one character. If there's ever another sprite-based MK game, putting Motaro in it will be a piece of cake, but even with my limited knowledge of 3D animation I know just how much of a pain in the ass it would be to put him in a game with 3D models, and how much development time that would potentially waste only for everybody and their dog to find every glitch and flaw with it on day one.
@@reloadpsi Doesn't help that he'd need unique animations for each fatality because of his unique skeleton. The shokan _kind_ of get away with it, but you can see how the animators don't really account for the extra limbs.
@@SlimeBlueMS And I would rather not have that awkward exception. Having one specific character that can't take a Fatality would just feel off -- at that point you might as well cut them entirely.
I’m glad my boy Moloch got some love. I was expecting this video to just shit on him for being a bland character which admittedly he is, but his purpose was to just introduce his race and be intimidated. You can say the same for Kintaro and Motaro who, just like Moloch, haven’t really done much in the lore. Big ups for Moloch love 👏🏽 Also, I would say Hsu Hao, Kobra and Hotaru are forgotten. MK fans, for better or worse, always bring them up. I personally would love to see them make a comeback in a new, interesting and fresh way.
Moloch was legit terrifying when the game came out. Both him and Onaga just had that... "Oh shit, it just got real!" Vibe to them. You're trapped inside a single room with no way out, and you *have* to face them. Add onto that they could wreck you with ease. MK really lacks moments like that these days, I think.
I’ve never successfully defeated Kintaro without using cheat codes. “All the good ones end in O” ;) great video, as always! Have you thought about ranking which game had the best in-game secrets? That could be fun!
I like Moloch. I like how he fights with a giant wrecking ball in his hand, I like his little donkey-like tail, I like his third eye,I like how he and Drahmin are kinda BFFs. He's cute. He does his best.
Kung Lao : "Imagine no Mortal Kombat" Goro: "It isn't hard to do" Kung Lao : "No need for violence and beatings" Goro : "And no fatalities too" Both : "Imagine all the realms... living life in peace"
I swear Midway era of MK give so many bosses in MK games. For sub-boss we have Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, and Moloch. For final boss we have Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Onaga, Blaze, and Dark Kahn. Then come NRS era of MK...they just make Kronika. The rest is just a repeat the same bosses. Even MK1 just repeat Shang Tsung again, literally after we just see him as the main villain in MK11 Aftermath. Seriously NRS doesn't have any creative idea to create new boss now...
Goro is in MK1 as a Kameo, Motaro is in MK1 as a Kameo...come on now, Kintaro HAS to be playable! If Sheeva's playable AGAIN instead of Kintaro, I'm gonna be so pissed.
@@claysoggyfriesagreed…STRONGLY! The fact motaro can reflect ur own projectiles back @ u & the ability 2 teleport is the KEY part of why he’s so broken.
On the arcade, the only person I could beat Motaro with was sheeva, using only the stomp. He seemed to have no response to it. Using any other character, Motaro was broken.
Personally I prefer Kintaro to Goro, sadly they didn't give him the same spotlight. My favorite overall boss would be Motaro. What a beast. Also yes, him being a minotaur instead of a centaur just somehow didn't work for me.
@@FAiRWAYx There's also another thing, I kind of think that their respective animations (Kintaro and Motaro) played a role in how good they looked in older games. The sporadic hand movements of both of them kind of looked menacing, while when they included them in more recent games, they just looked tame somehow. Less of a boss, more of a regular fighter.
If one is a novice then kintaro is harder than motaro If you learn how to defeat kintaro and learn his AI then he’s still hard but easier than motaro Reason being is motaro is easier to land hits on but he does it on purpose to allow you to drop your guard which in turn allows him To Defeat you turning the fight around quickly he did that a lot He lets you think he’s just letting himself be beaten this is easy then he just grabs you teleports beams you repeats 😒 so while he may be slightly Less savage than kintaro,motaro is smarter in kombat in terms of using strategy to win like I just mentioned MOTARO LETS HIMSELF BE HIT before he goes in for the win himself with kintaro he is savage so you nvr drop your guard Motaro Getting strategy to drop your guard and then using strategy and teleports and speed is a hard to predict combination that’s a lot harder to predict and thus counter than kintaro Hardest thing about kintaro is his teleport stomp but once you learn to counter it you master it and it allows you to defeat him Motaros teleport isn’t an attack it’s just a teleport so less threatnint than kintaros teleport stomp in that way but motaros teleport is meant to do just that evade attacks but he uses it to fool you teleporting constantly faster than ki taros stomp and it is meant to confuse you and part of motaros strategy to win and even if you know what he’s doing it’s hard to predict where he will end on screen and harder to counter bcuz of it Point being that once you learn to master countering kintaro he is t as hard but g even doing the same with motaro it only gets you so far Kintaro Is initially harder if you have no idea how to properly win but once you learn kintaro and motaro Motaro is harder
Growing up playing Deadly Alliance, Moloch was definitely a challenge for me and I dreaded facing him because I couldnt ever win. However at some point in my frustration I discovered an unfair way to easily beat him. Using Mavado I kept spamming his hooksword sweep attack which Moloch couldn't block. In later years even with other characters, I found Moloch to actually be very easy. He is a pretty slow attacker so as long as you do a pattern like "hit hit hit block" over and over again, you can kick his ass. Only his grab is unblockable but the damage isnt that bad especially if only lands one to two on you in a single round
I thought about it but there’s not much to say. Plus Shao Kahn will always be a boss character to me and I wanted to wait to cover him in a boss tier list.
I want to mention Why Noob-Smoke is actually because of cut content where you have tag teams but due to limitations they kept Noob Saibot and Smoke together It's very interesting
I get all the bosses that end up as sub-bosses in Armageddon aren't added to this list, but it would be cool to see how onaga, Scorpion, Shao Khan, Shinnok, and the deadly alliance shape up against these 5
Im suprised how many people dont know how to cheese moloch. Use Johnny Cage, nunchucks, mash one button (i forget which one, the one with the 4 hit combo) Its an infinite against moloch since moloch cant be knocked down.
4:04 Imagine if Kung Lao initiated a new war between Shokan and Edenia. If I were Kitana, I would have him jailed for years. He could've waited till Goro was back in Outworld. No wonder she prefers Liu Kang lol.
Motaro was the bane of my existence growing up. I was poor. And i had a super nintendo all the way up till i got a ps2. And mk3 was one of 3 games i had.mk3 Motaro and shao kahn are burned into my memory forever
I would put Motaro on par with Goro just because he’s just as big, if not bigger, than Goro and had a unique set of moves that made him much harder to fight against than Goro or Kintaro. The Minotaur idea isn’t bad as an excuse to work around the horse body programming but it was poorly executed, they could’ve said that they’re required to perform a ritual to keep their bodies or something. I also think that Moloch could just be another character than a boss character unless they made him bigger, bulkier, and do some kind of special move that makes the player unresponsive or trigger a berserk mode.
@@FAiRWAYx If they said that their ancestors were the ones who gave humans the exposure to a half man and half horse or bull monster is then it would help.
I can't think about Motaro without thinking of his appearance in the movie Mortal Kombat: Annihilation. And for me that brings him down at least two tiers for making me think about the movie Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.
Another thing about Motaro in MK3 - MK Trilogy that wasn't mentioned - projectile attacks don't work against him. They either go through him, or they reflect off. It's another thing that makes his fights such a pain in the ass 😅
Fun list for sure and I think not only the original nature of Goro but his impact is really fitting as the only S tier sub boss of the series as everyone is held to his standard afterwards truly a perfect character. I think Kintaro and Motaro being a is about right as they could be just as difficult but as the series went on sadly fell by the wayside do to changes not only in tech but creative direction which the gaming industry is currently dealing with. Molack while not my favorite from being from the PS2 era which didn't give us a ton of good things in the grand scheme definitely was a tough fight and B is about right. Noob Smoke were so unmemorable I forgot they were even a sub boss but that's more to do with Deception being a really bad game storywise so C is being kind but fair as it's two on one.
Yeah Goro is just in a league of his own for sure and I think A tier was perfectly designed for Kintaro/Motaro. They just did not get as much love as the big guy.
I will say this as many times as I need to: there is not a more intimidating sub-boss that MK4 Goro and MK3 Motaro. The way they look in those games is just insanely good. For that alone I would put them together in S Tier. Also, also, why is it that your voice sounds so familiar?
I bought mk4 two months ago he is a lot harder in mk4 than in original mk1 at least the mk1 home ports like snes genesis The arcade mk1 was far harder and closer to what mk4 goro was But home console mk1 goro was pathetic 😂 lol Mk4 goro brought him to mk3 motaro difficulty level and you’re right These are the two hardest subbosses Kintaro CAN BE the hardest If you’re a player that doesn’t learn to master battling kintaro but once you properly learn to counter him he becomes easier than motaro bcuz even learning motaro he is still hard to counter even if you kno what hhe w doing he’s just too fast I enjoy mk3 motaro and mk4 goro I also enjoyed quan chi in mk mythologies He was the sub boss of mk4 in arcade and im sure he was probably harder then other normal characters in terms of difficulty setting at least egen ir not we much as goro I want to say where shao Kahn was having armor shinnok could y even be hurt but that’s a story for another day loll
It's always amusing to see people asking to bring Motaro back for the current games. You just have to picture all the in game mechanics and features and how Motaros unique biology breaks all of it.
@FractalSpaces Ghostball just reflects off of him and hits you 🤔 I could still beat him with Noob by running in and drilling him with the kick string though.
Motaro was easy because of the stun he takes off of uppercut ended combos so the ninjas and Kitana to name a few made him a chump. Goro and Kintaro plagued me in their original games and mk9
Goro isn't just a MK staple but came early enough that he inspired sub bosses in games in general. Even just the idea of sub bosses is something Goro almost single handedly (or four handedly, lol) represented alone. You also forgot that you can't use projectiles against Motaro in MK3, in fact they reflect right back at you.
In all of gaming history or at least from my perspective, Goro is the ultimate end game boss. After I beat him, the fight after him was cake. No other game has caused that kind of anxiety for me when facing an NPC in a duel or fight. Deathstroke comes close but only for the theatrics..
I just classify Shao Kahn more as a primary boss so it felt wrong breaking him down as a sub-boss, but obviously Darkseid and Shao Kahn are iconic in their own right
Kintaro in my opinion looks more deadly and imposing than goro. And feel like he should be more of a higher ranking character with more of a deadly aura. He looks awesome in mk2
miss the days mk actually gave us BS subbosses and bosses and not the weak playable versions or even no bosses like mk1. hell ed if you wanna make em playable just keep em playable in arcade mode and maybe story mode, give us the bs power for a while and keep em outta multiplayer.
It's just as well not to include her. Despite being a sub-boss she played like a normal character and didn't have boss mechanics like the others did. She was just the closest thing to a sub-boss you could get from the female roster. MK can use a proper female sub-boss, and in the new era it might be cool to see Cetrion or an adult Ferra step into the role... or maybe an even nastier and more powerful D'vorah.
Which sub-boss haunted your dreams? ⬇️⬇️
Unless it's fanart, none of them.
All final bosses next please
Motaro..
I said all final bosses next please
Moloch in deadly alliance can be easily beaten with Sonya I would always die and switch to her and beat him first try with her weapons
Growing up my brother always told me goro had 8 butts and for some reason i never doubted it
Lmao
Thats because he does
Mine told me he had two "D"s
Anatomy of Shokans is terrifying...
😂
I love how Goro and the other shokans were animated with stop motion! It kinda gives them an old-school horror vibe
Absolutely!!
Goro seems like a nice guy. Polite, loyal, honorable. He's misunderstood.
He did turn good briefly!
He 's a prince after all
A huge issue with the modern/netherrealm mk stories is the bad guys are unbelievably pathetic and always lose all of a sudden despite being constantly told how undefeatable and strong they are
Goro especially in the comics I feel bad for him lol
Yeah you’re not wrong. Goro got bodied in the comic mainly to make Kotal Kahn look strong, which is fine, but why does it have to be an OG legend like Goro 🤷♂️
@FAiRWAYx Then Kotal got jobbed in X and 11. Bro lost to Kung Jin.
@@czar9341 the storytelling is not this series’ strong suit
character chapters ruin the powerscaling. street fighter 5 did this well with letting us play with the bad guys aswell. tekken 8 also did this. mk just needs to write a story and not give people plotarmor for 1 chapter. some fights legit never made sense even in mk9 (the best one). sonja beating bi han? sonja beating kitana and jade in a 2v1? cyber sub beating goro and kintaro in a 2v1 and ermac right after? like sub is a beast but those 3 are insane aswell lorewise.
Goro is a character I think belongs in every MK. Such an iconic design.
Agreed
I've always thought the same, he is so iconic to MK!
The reason Motaro was a minotaur in Armageddon was because it was deemed too difficult to animate him as a centaur in 3D graphics. This is why he's never been playable or fought against again after Armageddon, not even in MK9, while the rest of the Trilogy-era characters were, except Chameleon and Khameleon. Which is a shame, because it would be nice to be able to play as Motaro in all of his centaur glory again.
They could figure it out I think based on how incredible games look nowadays
And now it's basically considered a waste of time to redevelop an entire engine just for one character.
If there's ever another sprite-based MK game, putting Motaro in it will be a piece of cake, but even with my limited knowledge of 3D animation I know just how much of a pain in the ass it would be to put him in a game with 3D models, and how much development time that would potentially waste only for everybody and their dog to find every glitch and flaw with it on day one.
@@reloadpsi Doesn't help that he'd need unique animations for each fatality because of his unique skeleton. The shokan _kind_ of get away with it, but you can see how the animators don't really account for the extra limbs.
Or do what they did in mk3; you can't do fatalities on him.
I'd rather that small sacrifice rather than... well... never playing as him again
@@SlimeBlueMS And I would rather not have that awkward exception. Having one specific character that can't take a Fatality would just feel off -- at that point you might as well cut them entirely.
I’m glad my boy Moloch got some love. I was expecting this video to just shit on him for being a bland character which admittedly he is, but his purpose was to just introduce his race and be intimidated. You can say the same for Kintaro and Motaro who, just like Moloch, haven’t really done much in the lore. Big ups for Moloch love 👏🏽
Also, I would say Hsu Hao, Kobra and Hotaru are forgotten. MK fans, for better or worse, always bring them up. I personally would love to see them make a comeback in a new, interesting and fresh way.
Yeah I should’ve clarified that I meant forgotten by the developers, not the fandom. I think Moloch gets a bad rap but he’s pretty cool
Moloch was legit terrifying when the game came out. Both him and Onaga just had that...
"Oh shit, it just got real!" Vibe to them. You're trapped inside a single room with no way out, and you *have* to face them. Add onto that they could wreck you with ease.
MK really lacks moments like that these days, I think.
Now they make all these legendary sub bosses into henchmen punching bags for the heroes to beat
They have their moments, but yeah, it’s a sad state for sub-bosses.
Sadly that’s just how the story mode is going to go in almost all fighting games
Noob Smoke was a non-monster sub boss because the final boss of that game was a monster.
Yeah that makes sense
how did he not realize that?! Noob Smoke are A tier EASILY.
I’ve never successfully defeated Kintaro without using cheat codes. “All the good ones end in O” ;) great video, as always! Have you thought about ranking which game had the best in-game secrets? That could be fun!
Love that idea!
motaro is playable through a code in mk3 og same with shao except only against other people
I like Moloch. I like how he fights with a giant wrecking ball in his hand, I like his little donkey-like tail, I like his third eye,I like how he and Drahmin are kinda BFFs. He's cute. He does his best.
You referenced the OG game and the OG movie.
I subscribed!
MK Gold Goro and Kung Lao having truce was so dumb. Goro: “hey thanks for cutting me…let’s be friends.” Might as well of been that outcome. Lol
Those cut scenes are comedy, though. 😂
Friendship!?
I always had it interesting to make peace with villains or rivals
Kung Lao : "Imagine no Mortal Kombat"
Goro: "It isn't hard to do"
Kung Lao : "No need for violence and beatings"
Goro : "And no fatalities too"
Both : "Imagine all the realms... living life in peace"
@@legefyFriendship again?
Motaro is still my favorite sub boss other than Goro. Plus Motaro was one of the few good things about MK3
Absolutely
There were many things cool about MK3
Kintaro's design in MK 11 was the best
Such a sick cameo
You say "design" I say ".png"
And Goro's.
@@ATAS18. Goro's redesign as a corpse?
@@BBoy4040 Yes.
Too much good content I have no choice but to sub!
I swear Midway era of MK give so many bosses in MK games. For sub-boss we have Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, and Moloch. For final boss we have Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok, Quan Chi, Onaga, Blaze, and Dark Kahn. Then come NRS era of MK...they just make Kronika. The rest is just a repeat the same bosses. Even MK1 just repeat Shang Tsung again, literally after we just see him as the main villain in MK11 Aftermath. Seriously NRS doesn't have any creative idea to create new boss now...
Really shows the lack of creativity with Kronika and MK1's "Deadly Alliance."
They don't feel like bosses, more so glorified jobbers.
The NRS sub boss is wokeness used against the player.
Goro initially had the upper “hands” against Kotal
Kintaro made the arcade machines a fortune in MK2. He was an absolute nightmare!! Motaro was a close second.
The AI alone made them a fortune 😂
@@FAiRWAYx yep. That rigged AI when you try and uppercut them and you always get thrown. Ugh...
Yes! I only put Kintaro at the top because you could do the kick cheat on Motaro. Kintaro was a beast in MK2
Say it with me:
Put Kintaro In MK1 Already!
I agree! Goro's in MKX, Sheeva is in MK11, so Kintaro has to be in MK1!
No
Goro is in MK1 as a Kameo, Motaro is in MK1 as a Kameo...come on now, Kintaro HAS to be playable! If Sheeva's playable AGAIN instead of Kintaro, I'm gonna be so pissed.
Ya except make him less cat like.
My Rankings:
5. Noob/Smoke
4. Motaro
3. Molock (Underrated ASF!)
2. Kintaro
1. Goro
Very nice!
You listed motaro twice and left off kintaro
@@secondchances1232 oops edited
Great video. Nice clips and editing, audio too!
I don't think there is no boss in videogame history as broken as Motaro
He was the better version of Goro
i think shang tsung reading all of your inputs before you even hit him might be MORE broken
@@altide8784 Better as in more broken
@@claysoggyfriesagreed…STRONGLY! The fact motaro can reflect ur own projectiles back @ u & the ability 2 teleport is the KEY part of why he’s so broken.
On the arcade, the only person I could beat Motaro with was sheeva, using only the stomp. He seemed to have no response to it. Using any other character, Motaro was broken.
I tried using Sheeva in the Arcade Kollection and it did not work out well for me
I love how goro is a beast in game but a jobber in the storyline outside of maybe mk1
I was appalled by how badly they nerfed him in the 2021 movie. It was pathetic.
Great tier list, Final Boss tier list next
It’s on the list 100%
Personally I prefer Kintaro to Goro, sadly they didn't give him the same spotlight. My favorite overall boss would be Motaro. What a beast. Also yes, him being a minotaur instead of a centaur just somehow didn't work for me.
Yeah I get why they did it but I was not a fan
@@FAiRWAYx There's also another thing, I kind of think that their respective animations (Kintaro and Motaro) played a role in how good they looked in older games. The sporadic hand movements of both of them kind of looked menacing, while when they included them in more recent games, they just looked tame somehow. Less of a boss, more of a regular fighter.
@@PhoeniXBG definitely less menacing in recent games 100%
Noob founding Smoke after Saibot left him is so funny 😂
😂😂
Kintaro's best design is MK2, no doubt. His design didn't translate well to 3D models, the cameo in MK11 maybe is the exception.
Yeah the MK11 model deserved a shout in this video
I tried to defeat Kintaro in Mortal Kombat 2 but he was too strong for me
Took me forever lol
If one is a novice then kintaro is harder than motaro
If you learn how to defeat kintaro and learn his AI then he’s still hard but easier than motaro
Reason being is motaro is easier to land hits on but he does it on purpose to allow you to drop your guard which in turn allows him
To
Defeat you turning the fight around quickly he did that a lot
He lets you think he’s just letting himself be beaten this is easy then he just grabs you teleports beams you repeats 😒 so while he may be slightly
Less savage than kintaro,motaro is smarter in kombat in terms of using strategy to win like I just mentioned MOTARO LETS HIMSELF BE HIT before he goes in for the win himself with kintaro he is savage so you nvr drop your guard
Motaro
Getting strategy to drop your guard and then using strategy and teleports and speed is a hard to predict combination that’s a lot harder to predict and thus counter than kintaro
Hardest thing about kintaro is his teleport stomp but once you learn to counter it you master it and it allows you to defeat him
Motaros teleport isn’t an attack it’s just a teleport so less threatnint than kintaros teleport stomp in that way but motaros teleport is meant to do just that evade attacks but he uses it to fool you teleporting constantly faster than ki taros stomp and it is meant to confuse you and part of motaros strategy to win and even if you know what he’s doing it’s hard to predict where he will end on screen and harder to counter bcuz of it
Point being that once you learn to master countering kintaro he is t as hard but g even doing the same with motaro it only gets you so far
Kintaro
Is initially harder if you have no idea how to properly win but once you learn kintaro and motaro
Motaro is harder
Just jump straight up and kick his super stomp
Holy cow.......
The conversation between Goro, Kitana and Kung Lao is funny asf
It’s probably the most low key and least funny of the MK4 endings, check out the other ones, they get insane
MK2 was the best version of Kintaro. I feel like he got smaller and nerfed after the comics billed his sub-race as inferior to goros
Only the lore masters remember his dialogue with Kitana in MKX
This was a pretty good video brother
@5:47 weakened Shao Kahn eh? Explains a lot for unchained and Armageddon😅...
Motaro would have been a perfect Final Boss
For sure
Motaro is the strongest tho especially with hits..... His kick literally almost takes off half your health bar
Man ive always love Kung Lao's ending in MK4
I miss the old RUclips where you didnt need to hide the gore in the video. But your video is still great
The most difficult top:
1. Moloch in the hardest difficulty
2. Kintaro
3. Goro
4. Motaro
Growing up playing Deadly Alliance, Moloch was definitely a challenge for me and I dreaded facing him because I couldnt ever win. However at some point in my frustration I discovered an unfair way to easily beat him. Using Mavado I kept spamming his hooksword sweep attack which Moloch couldn't block.
In later years even with other characters, I found Moloch to actually be very easy. He is a pretty slow attacker so as long as you do a pattern like "hit hit hit block" over and over again, you can kick his ass. Only his grab is unblockable but the damage isnt that bad especially if only lands one to two on you in a single round
4:30 E A R T H M A N
i feel like in mortal kombat lore, in the arcade era and the modern reboot era, Many of the characters skills are hardly on display. Not just Goro.
Yeah probably because it’s challenging to convey in 8-bit/16-bit with minimal cutscenes/story modes etc.
You should've added Darkseid and Shao Kahn from MK vs DCU since you fight them before Dark Khan .
I thought about it but there’s not much to say. Plus Shao Kahn will always be a boss character to me and I wanted to wait to cover him in a boss tier list.
Maan, I absolutely love Motaro, i was thinking that he's some boss like shao but grew up and saw completely different thing
Kintaro is my all time favorite! I even named my cat after him.😂
Would love to see a tier list of all of the games.
👀
I want to mention
Why Noob-Smoke is actually because of cut content where you have tag teams but due to limitations they kept Noob Saibot and Smoke together
It's very interesting
Motaro is definitely ahead of Kintaro. His cry alone gave me nightmares.
Nightmare fuel for sure
Ive just noticed that Kanos voice sounds an awful lot like Jack Sparrows lol
5:21 the power of friendship...
I get all the bosses that end up as sub-bosses in Armageddon aren't added to this list, but it would be cool to see how onaga, Scorpion, Shao Khan, Shinnok, and the deadly alliance shape up against these 5
Im suprised how many people dont know how to cheese moloch. Use Johnny Cage, nunchucks, mash one button (i forget which one, the one with the 4 hit combo) Its an infinite against moloch since moloch cant be knocked down.
Did not know this!
4:04 Imagine if Kung Lao initiated a new war between Shokan and Edenia. If I were Kitana, I would have him jailed for years. He could've waited till Goro was back in Outworld. No wonder she prefers Liu Kang lol.
Lmao just tossing hats like nobody’s business
I wish MK respected it's sub bosses more. Kintaro was a straight up jobber in the lore.
Yeah, dying to two Kombat Kids is a rough way to go
Goro is the GOAT Sub-boss. Motaro was the most difficult IMO but Goro TERRIFIED as a child. I wasnt even afraid to fight Shang Tsung after him. 😂😂
Even though he turned into Goro haha
Motaro was the bane of my existence growing up. I was poor. And i had a super nintendo all the way up till i got a ps2. And mk3 was one of 3 games i had.mk3 Motaro and shao kahn are burned into my memory forever
Same here, but I think it made our generation stronger lmao
I've never seen this molock until now , his ok , nothing special or scary at all , Goro ,Kintaro and Motaro was scary in the arcades
Motaro gave me nightmares on UMK. I found it harder than Shao Kahn.
I thought that and then I played Shao Kahn again and had serious trouble lol
I would put Motaro on par with Goro just because he’s just as big, if not bigger, than Goro and had a unique set of moves that made him much harder to fight against than Goro or Kintaro. The Minotaur idea isn’t bad as an excuse to work around the horse body programming but it was poorly executed, they could’ve said that they’re required to perform a ritual to keep their bodies or something. I also think that Moloch could just be another character than a boss character unless they made him bigger, bulkier, and do some kind of special move that makes the player unresponsive or trigger a berserk mode.
I thought Motaro looked fine as a Minotaur, but the explanation was weak. If Motaro was more established I would’ve put him in S
@@FAiRWAYx If they said that their ancestors were the ones who gave humans the exposure to a half man and half horse or bull monster is then it would help.
Do a tier list on the characters in the special forces group.
With Kombat Kids?
@@FAiRWAYx cyrax, kenshi and johnny cage also count as being part of S.F. cyrax was part of it in the original timeline.
I can't think about Motaro without thinking of his appearance in the movie Mortal Kombat: Annihilation. And for me that brings him down at least two tiers for making me think about the movie Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.
Lmao that’s fair
21:00 the longer it went on the more scary he looks
Lmao
Good List but for me.
First Kintaro
Second Goro
Third Noob-Smoke
fourth Motaro
Last Moloch
Motaro last?!
Bruh ain't no way
@@FAiRWAYx I ment to say 4th Motaro and Moloch last. Let me go fix that.
@@targetcj4894 not bad
Another thing about Motaro in MK3 - MK Trilogy that wasn't mentioned - projectile attacks don't work against him.
They either go through him, or they reflect off. It's another thing that makes his fights such a pain in the ass 😅
Yes very true
Fun list for sure and I think not only the original nature of Goro but his impact is really fitting as the only S tier sub boss of the series as everyone is held to his standard afterwards truly a perfect character.
I think Kintaro and Motaro being a is about right as they could be just as difficult but as the series went on sadly fell by the wayside do to changes not only in tech but creative direction which the gaming industry is currently dealing with.
Molack while not my favorite from being from the PS2 era which didn't give us a ton of good things in the grand scheme definitely was a tough fight and B is about right.
Noob Smoke were so unmemorable I forgot they were even a sub boss but that's more to do with Deception being a really bad game storywise so C is being kind but fair as it's two on one.
Yeah Goro is just in a league of his own for sure and I think A tier was perfectly designed for Kintaro/Motaro. They just did not get as much love as the big guy.
15:13 "but followed a similar path, ultimately being spammed by jump kicks"
I will say this as many times as I need to: there is not a more intimidating sub-boss that MK4 Goro and MK3 Motaro. The way they look in those games is just insanely good. For that alone I would put them together in S Tier.
Also, also, why is it that your voice sounds so familiar?
Yeah I wish we saw more of Motaro to warrant S tier, but he’s close. Perhaps I have a generic voice haha I’m not sure
Well, I don't know about generic but it makes for a great voice-over to hear
I bought mk4 two months ago he is a lot harder in mk4 than in original mk1 at least the mk1 home ports like snes genesis
The arcade mk1 was far harder and closer to what mk4 goro was
But home console mk1 goro was pathetic 😂 lol
Mk4 goro brought him to mk3 motaro difficulty level and you’re right
These are the two hardest subbosses
Kintaro CAN BE the hardest If you’re a player that doesn’t learn to master battling kintaro but once you properly learn to counter him he becomes easier than motaro bcuz even learning motaro he is still hard to counter even if you kno what hhe w doing he’s just too fast
I enjoy mk3 motaro and mk4 goro
I also enjoyed quan chi in mk mythologies
He was the sub boss of mk4 in arcade and im sure he was probably harder then other normal characters in terms of difficulty setting at least egen ir not we much as goro
I want to say where shao Kahn was having armor shinnok could y even be hurt but that’s a story for another day loll
It's always amusing to see people asking to bring Motaro back for the current games.
You just have to picture all the in game mechanics and features and how Motaros unique biology breaks all of it.
Motaro was pretty easy for me especially as scorpion and human smoke!
for me as noob, just psamming ghostball and doing combos iirc
I used Cyber Smoke and it took me a while to beat him. Perhaps I should’ve tried other characters lmao
@FractalSpaces Ghostball just reflects off of him and hits you 🤔
I could still beat him with Noob by running in and drilling him with the kick string though.
@@umbrascitor2079 ahh yes, but i vividly remember hitting him with it. must've been a modified copy, since i had found it off the play store.
Kintaro playable as dlc in mk1 that must finally happen he needs a run
I agree but with Goro and Motaro there it seems unlikely
The biggest pain for me when fighting motoro was the fact that projectiles don't work on him. So that forces you to get up close and personal.
I jump kicked until I finally beat him lmao
Kintaro is one of my all time favorite mk characters, wish he was in more games
I’m smiling from ear to ear reading these comments. You guys are amazing!
Motaro was easy because of the stun he takes off of uppercut ended combos so the ninjas and Kitana to name a few made him a chump. Goro and Kintaro plagued me in their original games and mk9
Kintaro for mk1 (as a fighter)
Wish they did an Armageddon game again. With all the old fighters. J remember playing as every character on there with my cousin spending hrs playing.
With a multiverse in play it’s definitely possible
All the characters older you mean
@@pagodebregaeforro2803 why would I want them older?
Goro isn't just a MK staple but came early enough that he inspired sub bosses in games in general. Even just the idea of sub bosses is something Goro almost single handedly (or four handedly, lol) represented alone.
You also forgot that you can't use projectiles against Motaro in MK3, in fact they reflect right back at you.
Yeah I realized that when Smoke’s spear wouldn’t work on him 😂
In all of gaming history or at least from my perspective, Goro is the ultimate end game boss. After I beat him, the fight after him was cake. No other game has caused that kind of anxiety for me when facing an NPC in a duel or fight. Deathstroke comes close but only for the theatrics..
I wonder what you think of both shao Kahn & darkseid in dcu? Since I’m not sure if they count as a sub boss since you fight both before dark-Kahn.
I just classify Shao Kahn more as a primary boss so it felt wrong breaking him down as a sub-boss, but obviously Darkseid and Shao Kahn are iconic in their own right
I think Kintaro being more Catlike made him distinct from Goro, and showed the true differences between their tribes
Kintaro in my opinion looks more deadly and imposing than goro. And feel like he should be more of a higher ranking character with more of a deadly aura.
He looks awesome in mk2
Goro is just more developed and treated slightly better in the lore, albeit not by much lol
Kintaro was sick
I know mkx and higher games go for a more realistic muscular build, but I feel like kintaros and goros mk9 builds were perfect
Yeah MK11 Kintaro looked great also
Goro goes from the toughest most intimidating villain to General Shao’s bodyguard….NRS just loves sticking to their roots lol
Sadge
Goro is so powerful he could chain someone up WITH NO ARMS
If you didnt know, johny cage was killed off becouse his irl actor for the game endorsed a different fighting game, bloodstorm
You give Mortal Kombat the respect it deserves! #MortalKombatendbosses #Mortalkombat
I still have no idea how I beat Goro at 7 years old, I can't even beat him now
You failed to mention that Kintaro makes a cameo appearance in MK11 as one of Shang Tsung's fatalities where he sends Kintaro's soul into his opponent
Yes I did fail to mention that. It’s pretty damn cool, too.
miss the days mk actually gave us BS subbosses and bosses and not the weak playable versions or even no bosses like mk1. hell ed if you wanna make em playable just keep em playable in arcade mode and maybe story mode, give us the bs power for a while and keep em outta multiplayer.
When you babilty Kintaro, you will uncover that Kintaro is the best :)
MK2 Kintaro was deadly and sometimes the cpu was a lot harder than the usual fight.
Loved the originals for the mega drive, now i only like deception n shaolin monks for ps2
“quarter consuming battle” LMAO
What about Sheeva? She was the sub boss for the female ladder in Armageddon
Most sources I found had like a bunch of different sub-bosses for MKA so I just ignored it entirely
It's just as well not to include her. Despite being a sub-boss she played like a normal character and didn't have boss mechanics like the others did. She was just the closest thing to a sub-boss you could get from the female roster.
MK can use a proper female sub-boss, and in the new era it might be cool to see Cetrion or an adult Ferra step into the role... or maybe an even nastier and more powerful D'vorah.
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Kollector: ARE YOU FUCKING IGNORING ME-
No one's list are ever as legit as yours
Thanks bro ❤️
Why does this guy ignore 11? Idc if goro was dead, it still needs to be mentioned.
What’s there to say?