Federer's backhand in 2017 was terrifying. Normally, Nadal has beaten Federeri with his backhand many times throughout his career, but in 2017, I was closing my eyes when Roger hit the backhand while watching the games.
@@tdc_2021 Its always Clay where Nadal primary wins, no racket change just finaly Nadal reaching finals outside of Clay. Federer was always better than Nadal on hardcourts and grass. Djokovic is even a better example to expose this issue.
@@rickyismyuncle4485Fed was always better on hard and grass? So why did he lose 4 times in a row from 13-14 on hard, only winning 1 single set? And since then hes won the 7 times theyve played on hard and grass. From 08- early 14, Nadal was 8-3 against Fed on hard and grass. 4-0 in grass and HC slams. How is that Fed being better? And over his career, Novak never troubled Feds BH as much as Nadal.
2017 was undoubtedly one of the most breathtaking and marvellous seasons of Roger Federer in his career. A sublime comeback was accomplished by Federer in order to commence a new period. Besides, Roger Federer had reshaped the history of the tennis with AO2017 Title. It was utterly an unforgettable title in his career. Totally gaining 2 grand slam titles and 8 ATP Championships. What a scintillatin season for ROGER FEDERER!
I think one of the most impressive stats about Roger’s comeback in 2017 is that since then he won against Nadal absolutely every time they met, excluding Rolland Garros Roger finally had the perfect weapons to beat Nadal almost everywhere since then
When you see the way Fed improved against Nadal, you must wonder how did he lose all those fast court matches against this guy. Ok, the clay i can understand, but Fed lost at least 10 matches against Nadal due to nerves and his technical problems on the backhand. Against Djokovic, its simply Djokovic matching Fed in and going toe to toe with him. At least thats the case when both of them were at their best, both had the weapons to battle each other. Against Nadal, its just Nadal doing thr same thing over and over again, jaming that weak backhand of Fed. But after Fed learned to take it early and flatten it out, the whole dynamic of the rivalry changed. So "bad" matchup against Nadal, actually became a very favorable one the last few times they played outside of clay for Fed. How things can change.
Federer is my favorite player but he's not as mentally strong as Nadal and Djokovic in particular. He lost many matches he should've won simply due to nerves and mental block despite playing better than his opponent.
He lost only in 2008 Wimbledon , which can be considered a fast surface !! All others were slow surfaces , when they both played each other !! Ao 2009 was terribly slow in fact !! Ao 2014 was a bit faster !!
@@Noleka154 Those are excuses. Fed had some really bad losses against Nadal, no way arround it. Surfaces are pretty much the same for the last 20 years. He had a clear matchup and mental problem vs Nadal until he improved.
We miss seeing these two displaying some extraordinary tennis, not that we don't love the new and upcoming players. But Fed's magic with Nadal was really something else. Much like the old days of Borg vs McEnroe. Thank you Tennis TV! M
@@fraerot Yea, you're right. I guess in the media there is so much talk about Nadal Vs Fed that one gets brain washed and forgets Novak. Thanks for the good reminder. Cheers! 🙌
@@viratbaivab2990search for the Cincinnati final of 2022 and 2009 (random example). Or US Open earlier this century compared to now… They aren’t slow courts but they used to be much faster.
@@viratbaivab2990 yeah, but even at 8, I saw how he played the exact same every point no matter the score- something I very much could not do at the time😂
Djokovic fans claiming Roger won because novak was out. Well, Federer kicked his Butt at nitto and almost won wimby. With courts fast, novak has no chance. 2014 if I remember Roger beat novak in straight sets. H2h is only 4 matches in favour to djokovic, given 6 Years gap. People act as if it's between Roger and Roddick. Novak is lucky Roger peak and his is far. So all you novak fan boys shut up and don't be bad or low that your guy is not loved by anyone. He won't be. Lol
They are the most toxic fans in the history of any sport,they are just jealous that he will always be the 3rd no matter how many records he will break,you find them belittling Federer's and Nadals achievements in every video. And you perfectly mentioned what I thought about h2h,Djokovic only improved his h2h after 2015/2016 I guess and there are also many close matches which Federer lost,even then h2h is 2 matches difference between them
You just cant accept the facts... 10 years ago the stats determined who the goat was, nowadays suddenly the popularity and beauty of the game is important
Nadal should be extremely grateful that Roger was too stubborn to move to a bigger racket earlier in his career. Roger was 6-1 (plus a w/0) against Nadal after the racket change. And if it hadn't been so windy at RG in 2019 who knows what would have happened in that match if Roger had been able to play as aggressively as he had in their previously 5 meetings.
It wasn't the racket that made the difference in 2017. It was the backhand. Also, suggesting that roger could have beaten in form Nadal at RG if it was less windy is like saying Nadal would have beaten federer at wimbledon if wimbledon was played on clay. Wind is an inevitable factor on out door courts. Nadal thrives on out door courts and clay. Federer throughout his career did better on in door courts bc the lack of wind accentuates his potent serve. If you blame Fed's loss against nadal on the wind at RG, you might as well just change the tournament and say that every tournament should be played in conditions favorable to federer. (some objective comments made about fedal by a djokovic fan)
Nothing wrong with his form in Wimbledon 2019. If he had been a bit better mentally, he would have beaten Djokovic in 3 or 4 sets. Or at least he had won one of the two matchpoints
Kinda misleading to say "since 2014" when they played pretty much all of them in 2017 (one of federer's best seasons) if I'm not mistaken the only other year they played was 2015 (rafa's worst) pretty much played against each other on HC in 2 seasons since 2014
@@agl4044 Yeah but when you factor in Federer being 5 years older it should still matter. Nadal also played Federer 3 times in 2013 which was his worst season. I get it bro Federer is a bum to Nadal and Djokovic fans. I don’t even try to argue stupidity anymore
@@agl4044 actually it was one of Rafas best seasons too. Especially on hardcourts. It was indeed the first year of his career where he reached the final in both Harcourt GS
"Does make you wonder, if they make these surfaces every week, if anyone would've ever beaten this guy" - reminder to those who talk numbers all the time, what about court surface numbers eh?
@@viratbaivab2990 I think his 2017 backhand was better than his 2011-2015 one, that's how he beat Nadal everytime they met that year, usually Nadal uses his forehand top spin on Fed's backhand but that didn't work anymore. Shame Novak was injured in 2017 that could have been an interesting matchup
@@viratbaivab2990 hammered since 2011 but still went like a coward inside a cave fearing to face a 35 yo grandpa roger just to save his h2h records😂😂😂😂..Hammered since 2011 but like a coward retired in Wimbledon 2017 and lost early to chung😂.. Dont cry virat kohli..what makes u think this year would have been different // he couldn't beat a 38 yo 6-1,6,2,6-2 and still begging to roger to make unforced errors for saving his mp's😂😂... Since cincy 2018, novak has won 2 matches in only tie breakers😂😂First u should learn the meaning of getting hammered virat kohli Hammering is WTF 2019 where a 38 yo sent novak packing his bags out of WTF and also deprived from his no1 ranking Do u need any more info Virat kohli 😂😂😂
Rafa should really skipped asian swing in 2017 to focus on paris and atp finals..He really has great shot in paris because jack sock is the winner and in atp finals he could have defeated Dimitrov
Towards the end of his career Federer had solved the nadal problem (outside RG of course), and was close to solving the Djokovic problem too, Atp finals, also the Wimbledon historic match, prob bad luck on his part.
His Djokovic problem was purely a psychological problem. He had shown time and time again he had all the tools necessary to beat Nole, even during some of Nole's best years. In fact, he was the only one able to match up with him and occasionally beat the guy. Roger's mental game is no joke, but Nole's is just a whole level apart, and it became more and more obvious as the years past by that Roger couldn't beat Nole anymore on those occasions that mattered the most.
We clearly see Federer's physical talent here even at this age. If Nadal who is probably the best defender of all time can't even hit the ball back it says a lot about Federer's shots. Nobody else in history can hit so clean, accurate and powerful shots. Nobody has the skillset of Federer. Nadal and Djokovic are simply warriors, nothing more. They don't give up on the point until the opponent misses it. It's a nice mentality for a player to have, but not skill. Federer wins the point straight forward without giving his opponent the slightest chance to respond.
Please watch the last 4 games of the 2011 US Open semi-final and see Federer standing still watching Novak hit the lines. Also watch the last game in the 2015 Wimbledon final to see how Novak won the game and ended the match. Then you'll delete what you said about Novak
*6 Age Gap years ago* : With Djokovic out for 6 months.. Roger became young again.. like a dream he was back to #1.. back to playing like his best years. Roger soon woke up.. the dream was over.. Novak was back and quickly reclaimed his #1 crown.. poor much loved Federer became old again.
@@kennylolpro1868 its insecurity lol. Djokovic is great but he'll never be an icon like federer, so these guys feel the need to big him up wherever they can
@@viratbaivab2990 oh knock it off, don’t Act as if it’s not clear. When talking about Sampras do you also say „oh the 4th best player in history“ no you wouldn’t
2019 FO vs Wimby shows the difference the larger racket and neo backhand made for Roger vs Rafa. At the FO, you could see due to the clay court that Roger couldn't hit through the court and overpower Nadal with either FH OR BH, so that's easy work for Rafa as it has been against Roger always at the FO. At Wimby Roger could overpower Nadal with either stroke and beat him in 4 sets. Prior to 2017 Nadal was gaining the upper hand against Roger on even non-clay because Roger could only overpower him with the FH. So Nadal would avoid it by going his lefty FH to Roger's BH, which would rise too much and force Roger to slice it back, allowing Nadal to extend points and eventually find the angle for winners or force Roger to make an error. Roger went to the larger racket and started taking the ball earlier, on the rise, and that made all the difference as you can see on this surface but also earlier in IW or Miami. Now he can overpower Nadal with either FH or BH, and that's basically game over. Not only does he beat him, he makes it look easy.
Nobody has Federer's talent and likely will never have it again. But if you watch the Sinner-Alcaraz matches at Wimbledon or the US Open and don't see the insane talent on display then idk what to tell you. Tennis isn't over after Rafa, Novak, and Roger no matter how much I enjoy and respect the three. Players like Medvedev, Sinner, Tsitsipas, Alcaraz, Korda, Rune still show a ton of talent. You can argue their mental strength compared to champions like these and I feel like you'd have a better argument but even still players like Alcaraz have shown they have this in spades better than other generations that have come to try to test the Big Three. There's still gonna be a lot to appreciate post Big 3, lot of dynamic games and talent on display
@@sasook I feel like that's unfair to put on Alcaraz this early in his career. He had a pretty killer season last year, very winning and consistently going deep. His first full season on tour too really. Also Rune who has also just jumped to the scene. As well as Sinner who has been pretty consistent, btw also still very young, just laced with injuries over the last season nearly always losing close matches in the fourth round or quarters to top players. To say that none of them have any consistency at this point I feel is unfair. I get your point, but I'd wait to make that kind of judgement on players like Sinner and Alcaraz, especially given how young they are rn
@@AnthonyHirsch If you really wanna make that argument about the teenagers, fine. That still doesn't excuse the multiple players in their mid 20s right now that we've been touting as the supposed Next Gen for like 8 years now who all happen to be so pathetic that the tour continued to be dominated by 3 old men past their primes, one of whom _is still dominating to this day._ The fact that Djokovic & to a slightly lesser extent Nadal have dominated even more in the past few years than in their own primes speaks volumes about how weak the tour has been.
Poor federer fans pretend that this wasn’t him in his prime in 2017. It’s the only year where he genuinely had an elite backhand consistently. And it wasn’t getting exploited. Would’ve been interesting to see him play djokovic this year to see if their was finally a version of federer that could beat prime djokovic
An older Federer beat prime Djokovic plenty of times, even in 2014, 2015 and 2019, so why would 2017 have been any different, especially since Novak was so bad that year? Fed's game might have been nearer his best ever in 2017, but the one thing you cannot ignore is age. He still suffered from injuries and had to take a lot of time off throughout the season. Took the whole clay court swing off, and was injured for most of the North American swing. So, even though your tennis might be great, you still have to think about form, health, age and confidence, and those are never going to be at their highest in your mid-to-late 30s.
At the end you like who you like. But in terms of pure greatness, it's not obviously clear cut or simple that these two are in a different league. Novak has a winning head to head versus both, more weeks at number one, among other things. I enjoy all three, massive Federer fan for my whole life, but I can also appreciate and accept that Novak is one of the greatest players we have ever seen and has done amazing to catch up with both of them and show a crazy dominance over the last decade
@@ashleythomas4112 After being crushed by Novak in the 2011 Wimbledon final, Nadal became a doormat for players at Wimbledon until 2018 when he finally made it past the fourth round only to lose again to Novak in the semi-finals
@@MalekAhmed-kz3zu Yeah, he became trash at Wimbledon from 2012 to 2017. Before that he was great for years though, from 2006 to 2011 and Rafa will always be remembered as the only player to beat prime Fed in a Wimbledon final.
@@viratbaivab2990 who tf stopped Novak to play?,every player undergoes injuries, you Novak toxic fans claim every title as yours lol,Novak escaped Federer very cleverly in wimbledon when Federer was in his prime
@@viratbaivab2990 yeah lol had 2 match points at 38 and Destroyed your GOAT 2012 wimbledon right,it's not about Novak everytime dude,Nobody gives a fuck even when he wins 25 grandslams
Common, are you kidding, Grigor was clealry sick.. and gave him last few points..no win for Nadal! (I know guys, though, for western world only formal winner is important. Sorry I DENY IT. Dimitrov is winner here. F£ck the tennis rules!)
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Federer's backhand in 2017 was terrifying. Normally, Nadal has beaten Federeri with his backhand many times throughout his career, but in 2017, I was closing my eyes when Roger hit the backhand while watching the games.
@@thistagworked 2014 was when he upsized his racket head size actually.
@@Omkar529 indeed. I think he only lost to Rafa 3 times after changing his racket, and those matches were on clay
@@tdc_2021
Its always Clay where Nadal primary wins, no racket change just finaly Nadal reaching finals outside of Clay. Federer was always better than Nadal on hardcourts and grass. Djokovic is even a better example to expose this issue.
@@rickyismyuncle4485Fed was always better on hard and grass?
So why did he lose 4 times in a row from 13-14 on hard, only winning 1 single set?
And since then hes won the 7 times theyve played on hard and grass.
From 08- early 14, Nadal was 8-3 against Fed on hard and grass.
4-0 in grass and HC slams.
How is that Fed being better?
And over his career, Novak never troubled Feds BH as much as Nadal.
@@telmolicious
I dont care anymore about Goat debate, Djokovic killed the whole discussion.
2017, one of the best comebacks ever. God I miss those times.
Year when Federer owned Nadal
About *TIME!*
From a diehard Nadal fan
Yes fed was in sublime form and touch in 2017
2017 was a good year for FEDAL fans I guess. Especially for Roger fans including myself.
Probably because Djokovic was out with injury/surgery throughout the year 😔
Fedal's level is decided by whether Djokovic plays or not.
@@viratbaivab2990 shut up virat
@@viratbaivab2990 djokovic would have lost wimbeldon to Federer in 2017 and you know it
@@theaustrianart-teacher8787 I know he beat him in 14, 15 and 19 Do the math if you can.
2017 was undoubtedly one of the most breathtaking and marvellous seasons of Roger Federer in his career. A sublime comeback was accomplished by Federer in order to commence a new period. Besides, Roger Federer had reshaped the history of the tennis with AO2017 Title. It was utterly an unforgettable title in his career. Totally gaining 2 grand slam titles and 8 ATP Championships. What a scintillatin season for ROGER FEDERER!
Wow, this was an incredible performance from Federer, we don't see tennis like this much these days
Federer and 2017 was a fairytale ❤️
I think one of the most impressive stats about Roger’s comeback in 2017 is that since then he won against Nadal absolutely every time they met, excluding Rolland Garros
Roger finally had the perfect weapons to beat Nadal almost everywhere since then
2017 Federer was just the gift that keeps on giving. I will fondly remember that season forever!
2017 was 6 years ago? Feels like yesterday.
When you see the way Fed improved against Nadal, you must wonder how did he lose all those fast court matches against this guy. Ok, the clay i can understand, but Fed lost at least 10 matches against Nadal due to nerves and his technical problems on the backhand. Against Djokovic, its simply Djokovic matching Fed in and going toe to toe with him. At least thats the case when both of them were at their best, both had the weapons to battle each other. Against Nadal, its just Nadal doing thr same thing over and over again, jaming that weak backhand of Fed. But after Fed learned to take it early and flatten it out, the whole dynamic of the rivalry changed. So "bad" matchup against Nadal, actually became a very favorable one the last few times they played outside of clay for Fed. How things can change.
Federer is my favorite player but he's not as mentally strong as Nadal and Djokovic in particular.
He lost many matches he should've won simply due to nerves and mental block despite playing better than his opponent.
@@apathak34 yes true
yes true
He lost only in 2008 Wimbledon , which can be considered a fast surface !!
All others were slow surfaces , when they both played each other !!
Ao 2009 was terribly slow in fact !!
Ao 2014 was a bit faster !!
@@Noleka154 Those are excuses. Fed had some really bad losses against Nadal, no way arround it. Surfaces are pretty much the same for the last 20 years. He had a clear matchup and mental problem vs Nadal until he improved.
The great Federer's 2017 "Neo - single backhand" and deadly single backhand returns, at work.
tennis tv... come on, after 5 years you can bring more then 7 minutes highlight from that legendary match please
We miss seeing these two displaying some extraordinary tennis, not that we don't love the new and upcoming players. But Fed's magic with Nadal was really something else. Much like the old days of Borg vs McEnroe.
Thank you Tennis TV!
M
Yap and don't forget Djokovic. Some memorable marches also
@@fraerot Yea, you're right. I guess in the media there is so much talk about Nadal Vs Fed that one gets brain washed and forgets Novak. Thanks for the good reminder. Cheers! 🙌
dang this court looks fast. shame there's so little fast courts left...
only paris and shanghai in carpet
Cincinnati is still fast, US open too.
@@viratbaivab2990search for the Cincinnati final of 2022 and 2009 (random example). Or US Open earlier this century compared to now… They aren’t slow courts but they used to be much faster.
nahh at least both the AO and USO are fast, slams r more important
@@viratbaivab2990 us open 🤣🤣
The beard gave him extra power.
Pure friendship 👏👏👏
This was the first tennis match I ever watched. I was 8 and my parents wanted me to watch how Federer played, but that day I became a rafa fan
Nadal played terrible this match lol
@@viratbaivab2990 yeah, but even at 8, I saw how he played the exact same every point no matter the score- something I very much could not do at the time😂
@@gusdemis09 u a tennis player, now?
@@leonardobraynen1524 5 years and still loving it
@@gusdemis09
You should ignore both Federer and Nadal, replicate the GOAT instead.
A part of me is gone. There's a lot less joy in watching tennis now that Roger has retired.
No one could beat the 5 O'Clock shadow Federer.
LOL
more like 3 day o clock shadow
This rivalry will be missed. This stadium is missed too.
Djokovic fans claiming Roger won because novak was out. Well, Federer kicked his Butt at nitto and almost won wimby. With courts fast, novak has no chance. 2014 if I remember Roger beat novak in straight sets. H2h is only 4 matches in favour to djokovic, given 6 Years gap. People act as if it's between Roger and Roddick. Novak is lucky Roger peak and his is far. So all you novak fan boys shut up and don't be bad or low that your guy is not loved by anyone. He won't be. Lol
They are the most toxic fans in the history of any sport,they are just jealous that he will always be the 3rd no matter how many records he will break,you find them belittling Federer's and Nadals achievements in every video. And you perfectly mentioned what I thought about h2h,Djokovic only improved his h2h after 2015/2016 I guess and there are also many close matches which Federer lost,even then h2h is 2 matches difference between them
You just cant accept the facts... 10 years ago the stats determined who the goat was, nowadays suddenly the popularity and beauty of the game is important
What a long comment. Still Novak would best him every time 😂
Very accurate roger, unplayable ❤
Nadal should be extremely grateful that Roger was too stubborn to move to a bigger racket earlier in his career. Roger was 6-1 (plus a w/0) against Nadal after the racket change. And if it hadn't been so windy at RG in 2019 who knows what would have happened in that match if Roger had been able to play as aggressively as he had in their previously 5 meetings.
It wasn't the racket that made the difference in 2017. It was the backhand.
Also, suggesting that roger could have beaten in form Nadal at RG if it was less windy is like saying Nadal would have beaten federer at wimbledon if wimbledon was played on clay. Wind is an inevitable factor on out door courts. Nadal thrives on out door courts and clay. Federer throughout his career did better on in door courts bc the lack of wind accentuates his potent serve. If you blame Fed's loss against nadal on the wind at RG, you might as well just change the tournament and say that every tournament should be played in conditions favorable to federer.
(some objective comments made about fedal by a djokovic fan)
Roger has less slam than Rafa also because of windy lol
Wind is the same for both players, Rafa just handled it better.
Would’ve liked his form to continue into 2018 and Wimbledon 2019
Nothing wrong with his form in Wimbledon 2019. If he had been a bit better mentally, he would have beaten Djokovic in 3 or 4 sets. Or at least he had won one of the two matchpoints
Upload Rafa vs Federer indian wells 2013 and atp finals 2013 extended highlights
Federer totally reversed that rivalry after 2014. 6-0 H2H off clay
Kinda misleading to say "since 2014" when they played pretty much all of them in 2017 (one of federer's best seasons) if I'm not mistaken the only other year they played was 2015 (rafa's worst) pretty much played against each other on HC in 2 seasons since 2014
@@agl4044 Yeah but when you factor in Federer being 5 years older it should still matter. Nadal also played Federer 3 times in 2013 which was his worst season. I get it bro Federer is a bum to Nadal and Djokovic fans. I don’t even try to argue stupidity anymore
@@agl4044 actually it was one of Rafas best seasons too. Especially on hardcourts. It was indeed the first year of his career where he reached the final in both Harcourt GS
4 of the 6 in 2017 alone, no? AO, IW, Miami, Shanghai. Good Lord IW was a beat down!
@@lyndonchastain3181 the only claiming fed is a "bum_ here is you. Stop making stupid assumptions out of nothing, it's not healthy
"Does make you wonder, if they make these surfaces every week, if anyone would've ever beaten this guy" - reminder to those who talk numbers all the time, what about court surface numbers eh?
The 2017 Fed was even better than the 2006-2007 one imo
Lol he was the same for 2011-16 only difference was Novak playing.
@@viratbaivab2990 Hum no he was way better, even in 2019 when he was declining prime Novak needed 5 hours to beat him at Wimbledon
@@Lakers24bn My point is Federer has always been playing similar level 2011-15 he was beating everybody but lost to Novak in finals.
@@viratbaivab2990 I think his 2017 backhand was better than his 2011-2015 one, that's how he beat Nadal everytime they met that year, usually Nadal uses his forehand top spin on Fed's backhand but that didn't work anymore.
Shame Novak was injured in 2017 that could have been an interesting matchup
@@viratbaivab2990 No his backhand suddenly went super saiyan just for 2017 and then regressed again it was odd
Ai shanghai.. can you say that. That got me in stitches
I miss you Roger Federer!
Once Federer fixed that backhand, he was just the better player, funny how one shot can make a difference
It's funny how they never met in the US
Novak escaped from this grandpa version of roger by sitting at home to preserve his h2h records😂😂
Hahahah correct man! Wish Fed had won that year's US open as well!
@@212go yeah he got again injured in Montreal which really had an impact in uso
Novak would've trash this Federer 61 6 0
@@vijayendranvijay4538 He's hammered Federer since 2011 what makes you think this year would've been any different 😂
@@viratbaivab2990 hammered since 2011 but still went like a coward inside a cave fearing to face a 35 yo grandpa roger just to save his h2h records😂😂😂😂..Hammered since 2011 but like a coward retired in Wimbledon 2017 and lost early to chung😂.. Dont cry virat kohli..what makes u think this year would have been different // he couldn't beat a 38 yo 6-1,6,2,6-2 and still begging to roger to make unforced errors for saving his mp's😂😂... Since cincy 2018, novak has won 2 matches in only tie breakers😂😂First u should learn the meaning of getting hammered virat kohli
Hammering is WTF 2019 where a 38 yo sent novak packing his bags out of WTF and also deprived from his no1 ranking
Do u need any more info Virat kohli 😂😂😂
Only fitting that their last ATP match, they were in a big final whilst they were ranked 1 and 2.
Pure tennis 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
Rafa should really skipped asian swing in 2017 to focus on paris and atp finals..He really has great shot in paris because jack sock is the winner and in atp finals he could have defeated Dimitrov
Federer had Nadal's number in 2017.
I wonder what Federer and Nadal said after that 😂 they they was laughing and then they gave Federer a harder fraise 😂
Unreal tennis
I would say that the great Nadal, here, is not the same player from the baseline, compared to his younger days.
2nd best player Vs 3rd best player
Roger Federer - like a South African diamond cutter.
the last final wasn't in basel ?
Towards the end of his career Federer had solved the nadal problem (outside RG of course), and was close to solving the Djokovic problem too, Atp finals, also the Wimbledon historic match, prob bad luck on his part.
His Djokovic problem was purely a psychological problem. He had shown time and time again he had all the tools necessary to beat Nole, even during some of Nole's best years. In fact, he was the only one able to match up with him and occasionally beat the guy.
Roger's mental game is no joke, but Nole's is just a whole level apart, and it became more and more obvious as the years past by that Roger couldn't beat Nole anymore on those occasions that mattered the most.
@@jpesmarRoger is the ultimate chokerer in tennis
We clearly see Federer's physical talent here even at this age. If Nadal who is probably the best defender of all time can't even hit the ball back it says a lot about Federer's shots. Nobody else in history can hit so clean, accurate and powerful shots. Nobody has the skillset of Federer. Nadal and Djokovic are simply warriors, nothing more. They don't give up on the point until the opponent misses it. It's a nice mentality for a player to have, but not skill. Federer wins the point straight forward without giving his opponent the slightest chance to respond.
Please watch the last 4 games of the 2011 US Open semi-final and see Federer standing still watching Novak hit the lines. Also watch the last game in the 2015 Wimbledon final to see how Novak won the game and ended the match. Then you'll delete what you said about Novak
Très très fort
Looking at this makes it again VERY clear for me personally...no matter how many GS Djokovic or Nadal are winning...the "geatest" is Roger...
2019 indian wells semi final 🥲
Nothing happened there.
*6 Age Gap years ago* :
With Djokovic out for 6 months.. Roger became young again.. like a dream he was back to #1.. back to playing like his best years.
Roger soon woke up.. the dream was over.. Novak was back and quickly reclaimed his #1 crown.. poor much loved Federer became old again.
What happened to this tournament? Why no more atp 1000 in China?
human rights and they commies so yeah
Second and Third best in history...amazing players!
the first one is Lord Tomic
Why do you Serbian Djokovic Fans ALWAYS have the urge to indirectly call Djokovic the goat?? How sad are you guys…
@@kennylolpro1868 its insecurity lol. Djokovic is great but he'll never be an icon like federer, so these guys feel the need to big him up wherever they can
@@kennylolpro1868 No one even mentioned Djokovic, fedal fans are more insecure bcoz their idols are done forever, Novak has a lot to go.
@@viratbaivab2990 oh knock it off, don’t Act as if it’s not clear. When talking about Sampras do you also say „oh the 4th best player in history“ no you wouldn’t
Why didn’t Nadal try to vary his tactics??? He stuck to the same strategy!
2019 FO vs Wimby shows the difference the larger racket and neo backhand made for Roger vs Rafa. At the FO, you could see due to the clay court that Roger couldn't hit through the court and overpower Nadal with either FH OR BH, so that's easy work for Rafa as it has been against Roger always at the FO. At Wimby Roger could overpower Nadal with either stroke and beat him in 4 sets.
Prior to 2017 Nadal was gaining the upper hand against Roger on even non-clay because Roger could only overpower him with the FH. So Nadal would avoid it by going his lefty FH to Roger's BH, which would rise too much and force Roger to slice it back, allowing Nadal to extend points and eventually find the angle for winners or force Roger to make an error.
Roger went to the larger racket and started taking the ball earlier, on the rise, and that made all the difference as you can see on this surface but also earlier in IW or Miami. Now he can overpower Nadal with either FH or BH, and that's basically game over. Not only does he beat him, he makes it look easy.
I don't see any of the next next Gen equalling any of this talent. What a pity.
Nobody has Federer's talent and likely will never have it again. But if you watch the Sinner-Alcaraz matches at Wimbledon or the US Open and don't see the insane talent on display then idk what to tell you. Tennis isn't over after Rafa, Novak, and Roger no matter how much I enjoy and respect the three. Players like Medvedev, Sinner, Tsitsipas, Alcaraz, Korda, Rune still show a ton of talent. You can argue their mental strength compared to champions like these and I feel like you'd have a better argument but even still players like Alcaraz have shown they have this in spades better than other generations that have come to try to test the Big Three. There's still gonna be a lot to appreciate post Big 3, lot of dynamic games and talent on display
@@AnthonyHirschNone of them have any consistency. I disagree with you that tennis will be fine.
@@sasook I feel like that's unfair to put on Alcaraz this early in his career. He had a pretty killer season last year, very winning and consistently going deep. His first full season on tour too really. Also Rune who has also just jumped to the scene. As well as Sinner who has been pretty consistent, btw also still very young, just laced with injuries over the last season nearly always losing close matches in the fourth round or quarters to top players. To say that none of them have any consistency at this point I feel is unfair. I get your point, but I'd wait to make that kind of judgement on players like Sinner and Alcaraz, especially given how young they are rn
@@AnthonyHirsch If you really wanna make that argument about the teenagers, fine. That still doesn't excuse the multiple players in their mid 20s right now that we've been touting as the supposed Next Gen for like 8 years now who all happen to be so pathetic that the tour continued to be dominated by 3 old men past their primes, one of whom _is still dominating to this day._ The fact that Djokovic & to a slightly lesser extent Nadal have dominated even more in the past few years than in their own primes speaks volumes about how weak the tour has been.
Poor federer fans pretend that this wasn’t him in his prime in 2017. It’s the only year where he genuinely had an elite backhand consistently. And it wasn’t getting exploited. Would’ve been interesting to see him play djokovic this year to see if their was finally a version of federer that could beat prime djokovic
35 is not your prime in tennis, never has been
An older Federer beat prime Djokovic plenty of times, even in 2014, 2015 and 2019, so why would 2017 have been any different, especially since Novak was so bad that year? Fed's game might have been nearer his best ever in 2017, but the one thing you cannot ignore is age. He still suffered from injuries and had to take a lot of time off throughout the season. Took the whole clay court swing off, and was injured for most of the North American swing. So, even though your tennis might be great, you still have to think about form, health, age and confidence, and those are never going to be at their highest in your mid-to-late 30s.
Love it when nadal loses
federer beat nadal in 2017 four times!!!!
And then again at Wimbledon in 2019
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I don’t understand how some people can’t see the difference between both of them and Djoko. I really don’t.
Explain it please. I see the difference in statistics...
At the end you like who you like. But in terms of pure greatness, it's not obviously clear cut or simple that these two are in a different league. Novak has a winning head to head versus both, more weeks at number one, among other things. I enjoy all three, massive Federer fan for my whole life, but I can also appreciate and accept that Novak is one of the greatest players we have ever seen and has done amazing to catch up with both of them and show a crazy dominance over the last decade
Retired too soon. Nobody else as entertaining to watch
Nadal: king on clay, peasant on grass.
@Tino et Lolita no final since 2011
@@SebastianSaavedra28 Wow, you say it as if he wasn't close to make a final in the last 3 editions where he made 3 semis in a row...
A peasant who played 5 Wimbledon finals in a row, won it twice and ended Roger's dominant streak there. What a joke.
@@ashleythomas4112 After being crushed by Novak in the 2011 Wimbledon final, Nadal became a doormat for players at Wimbledon until 2018 when he finally made it past the fourth round only to lose again to Novak in the semi-finals
@@MalekAhmed-kz3zu Yeah, he became trash at Wimbledon from 2012 to 2017. Before that he was great for years though, from 2006 to 2011 and Rafa will always be remembered as the only player to beat prime Fed in a Wimbledon final.
Fedal doominated that year...
we all know why
Cause novak and Andy were injured
@@Anticommunism99Lol Andy. Seriously?
I'm the new federer
Honestly, depressing title
I can't stand Nadal.
when neither of them were injured 😢
😢 Cry me a river. Djokovic owns your beta champs, or should is say, gramps 🤣🤣
When Novak doesn't play these 2 magically plays at their best😅
@@viratbaivab2990 who tf stopped Novak to play?,every player undergoes injuries, you Novak toxic fans claim every title as yours lol,Novak escaped Federer very cleverly in wimbledon when Federer was in his prime
@@Dragonballhere Why would Novak ever avoid Federer, who got hammered by him 3 Wimbledon finals 🤣🤣
@@viratbaivab2990 yeah lol had 2 match points at 38 and Destroyed your GOAT 2012 wimbledon right,it's not about Novak everytime dude,Nobody gives a fuck even when he wins 25 grandslams
Common, are you kidding, Grigor was clealry sick.. and gave him last few points..no win for Nadal! (I know guys, though, for western world only formal winner is important. Sorry I DENY IT. Dimitrov is winner here. F£ck the tennis rules!)
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They took best possible advantage of injured Novak Djokovic
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Like Djokovic didn’t when Federer was old 😂😂😂
@@DeviITheGoat so Federer couldn't serve out Wimbledon 2019 coz he suddenly got old🤣🤣 served fine all match tho.
@@viratbaivab2990 yea
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Hahaha look at djokos h2h against fed in shanghai and then get back to ur comment 😂
Federer was hitting the best backhands of his career in 2017. I'm really not sure why he couldn't continue that momentum into 2018/2019
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