I bought a used oxy/acetylene rig with my first pay check from my first real job back in 1965 and I have never regretted it. It was something I always wanted and I built a lot of projects with it. I still gas weld once in a while. To me , it's like tig welding. It should be the first type of process learned in welding school.
Gas welding is a great technique teacher. I only started welding 3 years ago but I was first taught with gas and learned how to control a puddle. Not to mention it is very meditative. I would do more of it on my own time if acetylene wasn't so expensive.
Been a gas welder for over 45 years. My dad hooked me with the smell of the torch when repairing the fuselage of his Piper Cub. I've been a long time tig welder too but I still love to pick up my Smith's airline or Meco torch and run beads.
I've used a Smith Airline torch for years, but just got a Meco Midget and was welding with it today. Those things are a dream to hold and use! Hardly any weight at all. I still love the Smith torch I have, but I have to say that the Meco unit is really a neat little torch!
Took a welding class from an old timer years ago. Everybody started with the torch until they were proficient before proceeding to stick, mig and tig. Best welding class I ever had.
same here, worked as a full time fabricator for a while, and it was amazing how many guys my age and younger had never picked up a torch except for cutting, and these were guys who had been to welding school.
More oxy fuel videos please. When I first started learning on old timer put me on the brazing bench for 2 weeks. The slow speed is great when you're learning. Filling holes and caping tubes teaches heat control. You learn the hand motions etc. Best 2 weeks of learning I've ever gotten.
I'm 69 and first learned O-A welding many years ago. Moving to stick and Heliarc was relatively easy, since O-A teaches puddle and heat control. I, too, made many things with O-A welding and brazing and still use my torch and Heliarc set-up. Making things helps relax body and mind plus I made a very good living when times were tough. Good vid, good weld and good teaching!
Greatest thing Bob is to get all that old school knowledge onto RUclips. Thanks! Clean parts and a perfect flame under an old master yields some mighty fine results.
Thanks for showing this, Bob. Like a lot of folks, when I learned to weld in high school in the late '60s we were taught oxy-acetylene welding, brazing and cutting, and stick welding 'cause that's about all there was. I hadn't touched a torch for about 30 years until I picked up a used rig about a year ago and it's amazing how quickly it came back. Welding with a torch is a really good way to learn puddle control, applicable to just about any technique.
Really appreciated. I’ve been welding with gas since I worked at a garage in 1985. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the weld pool, and the benefits of watching someone else and how they move the heat. That’s great footage. I know I appreciated it. Coming back to welding without filler is a real boon for me. You’ve got skill and I just picked up a bit watching. Thanks
I had my optometrist make me glasses so that the sharpest area is at my weld puddle distance. They work great!!! And I use tri-focals everywhere else. I started gas welding in the 60s. Learning puddle control is 90% of welding anyway. All the other processes were easy to learn. Us older folks have a lot to teach the kids!!! I'm retired, but still weld for fun (gas, tig and stick). Great video, Bob.
At trade school we had to learn to do gas welding and brazing. Some guys complained that they would never need to use this method. We started on 1/8" plate and finished up on 1/2" plate. Still a great skill to have.
Bob you have inspired me to break out my gas welding equipment and step back to when I learned to weld 30 years ago. I have not done gas welding in about 15 years, everything now is TIG welded. Oxy Acetylene is only used for heating and cutting today and its a shame it was a fun way to weld.
mr. moffett i was watching your videos while practicing for quite a while, and then as welding is, i got it. i saw it. i understood what i was seeing. i went out iron working! as life is, now a coulpe 2 tree years later im back in school. im at another welding school advancing my skills. watching your videos was a big part of learning.
Hi Bob, Thank you so much for posting this. As a home gamer, I OA weld exclusively these days (only gear I have). I too learned OA first in HS in the 80's and had to master puddle control before being allowed to move on to stick. It was years after high school before I touch my first MIG welder. I saw a "study" online a year or two ago in which a community college tried to evaluate the efficacy of "bothering" to teach OA in their program. They evaluated two groups of students in terms of "ability to learn MIG." The two groups were those that learned OA first and those that went straight to MIG. They found little difference between the two groups and concluded OA was not bringing anything to the table. I think that was the wrong test though. If they wanted to evaluate OA's value in prepping students for a more "modern" process, I think the test should be TIG, not MIG. In any case, as a non-pro welder, I think OA has a very important place in training programs (and in practical use). I'd really like to hear your thoughts on what is apparently happening in programs dropping OA and especially that "study" concluding the process did not benefit students for learning MIG. Thanks again for the great demo.
Bob, you are the master welder with out a doubt! Great example of how to torch weld, i learn something from every video even after being a welder for many years, thanks for sharing your skills.
heck yeah man, I started on OA just because it was cheap and sounded pretty versitile. Learned a lot on that process. I spent about 2 years only working with OA, and finally ponied up the cash for a tig welder and when I switched over to tig it was super easy. I really honestly believe OA is the best way to learn welding, not just because it teaches fundamentals but also because it teaches patience and finesse. I'd love to see more of these videos.
I went to welding school for 2 yrs 1969-71. When shop part started , we were fortunate that the welding machines hadn't arrived, although we didn't think so at the time. So for several weeks we learned how to Oxy-Acetylene weld. I am now 68 yrs old and retired and thankful I had the chance to learn this first. Keep up the great job. Thanks for the video.
This cat never fails to amaze me. Whichever way, he choose's... Taking us to where the Metal meets the Heat. A true master at his craft. Thanks again Bobby & much Aloha!
Mr Moffet you are the man! Great weld! It was not that long ago (yes it was) that in my high school class all we started with was oxyfuel welding, in a small town out in California. Now I'm 35 and after getting certs in structural steel and pipe welding I still go back every now and then and dust off that oxyfuel just for "old times sake" lol.
brought back memories. starting out gas welding as an apprentice, it was up to us to practice at lunch times. it reminded me of how relaxing gas welding can be, except when you are having to do it in position off a stepladder. so versatile. the old, steel pipe we had here in nz, you could heat up 15mm pipe and free bend it. would come out better then from using the press.
I’ve seen a lot of gas welding videos. This one was by far the best. Excellent camera work and MOST IMPORTANTLY the best torch work I’ve seen so far. Awesome “stack o’ dimes” sir!
Was just gas welding this afternoon, great timing. Your welds look much better than mine. I enjoy gas welding, like to see more videos on it. Thank You Bob.
I've never had the chance to try gas welding, my local college didn't do any (!), so it's great to see this demo and I'm impressed by the quality of that weld. Great demo, thanks.
Thanks for replying to my comment - question about gas welding body panels ! I read some articles written by older gentlemen active in the restoration business and they said they preferred gas welding to tig welding on body panels because the gas welds were not as hard and were easier to , when necessary, to hammer into a finished shape.
Thanks Bob, beautiful bead. Haven't gas welded in a thousand years but it was the first welding process I ever tried and I loved it. Unlike arc welding it's a silent process, very easy to control and kind of relaxing. No one uses it anymore which I think is a shame. Closest thing to TIG in a lot of respects. Yes you dump a lot of heat into your base metal and it has the propensity to cause thinner metals to warp but just so easy to control the weld puddle.
As a sertified welder in South Africa i do alot of welding when i am off.... I am a Paramedic. didnt go into the trade that much. My Trade is fitter and turner.... I love my Stick welder. thats the cheapest welding you can get in this part of the world. Theral and Heluim gas wil cost you alot. .since i find this channel i learned alot.. things that was left out in school or things i forgot.. kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND VIDEOS
That's the first welding process I learned in Vocational welding school in 1978 lots of hours spent in the booth welding different joints and getting graded on my performance..Thanks for sharing
Add me to the old guys list. I came up through the apprentice class as a shipboard pipefitter working as a civilian at the Naval Shipyard in Long Beach Calif. Union job, we did a lot of Oxy/Ace brazing, but no welding, that was the welder's job. We fit the pipe and the welders welded it. There was no gas welding, so while I can silver braze with the best of them, I never learned to gas weld. I have a gas rig, I think I am going to give gas welding a shot. Oh, I have a flux core wire feed welder, but I'm much more comfortable with gas. Thanks for your excellent video, you got me motivated! I would love to see more videos on Gas Welding...
Great video. This type of welding was my first many years ago. I'll be trying to bring this to the young men at work who can't think outside the box on how to get things done. Thank You so much.
Another great video...I was teaching a welding school grad today how to gas weld and to solder/braze as well. They never even taught the kids the basics..very sad...either way, it was fun....his brazing looked better than mine ! Lol....thanks again for your videos ! Great job from a master !
we're working on oxy-torch welding and cutting in my industrial mechanics course and it is an art form and takes a lot of practice. You are very knowledgeable and i'd like too see more videos like this. Your tig videos are awesome and if you could do oxy-torch welding and maybe even some cutting that'd be very interesting to watch and see what techniques and tips other people have
Back in the early 80’s in the USAF, we welded a lot with acetylene. Both welding and brazing. I used to give my younger people 20 gage and watch them squirm until they got it. The pride on their faces when they did, priceless. TIG? Anyone can do it after a few tries.
We still use this process here in Ireland on pipe up to about 3 1/2" - 4" , we find it quicker and cheeper than a stick weld or tig weld , unlike yourself we use a bigger tip and add rod
Good video. Brought back memories of my dad doing A/O welding in the back yard when I was a kid. Haven't seen anyone do it in a while. thanks for sharing.
That really worked for me! I'm trying to teach this stuff in a small way (short courses, community ed. kind of thing) and keep clamoring for this technique as an introduction. It makes so much sense! Make a puddle, move it around. You know! I find that there's a universal idea that welding is like glue, I want to overcome this right at the beginning. The natural thing is to get a MIG machine, put some spatter all over something and call it welded. Also, I love torches, and find that a lot of kids do, too. The torch is so handy and versatile and quick (quick to put into action) I think it will never be obsolete.
I think Oxy A is one of the best tools to have. You can use it to weld, cut, bend, heat, and I'm sure a whole bunch of other things. I dont know about anybody else but I sure would love to see and learn more on it. Great video and great weld.
All of the other welding videos I've seen so far show techniques using 220V MIG or TIG equipment. I only have access to 110V MIG and it doesn't seem like there's much I can do with it, or I haven't yet found the right videos to watch. Anyway, as much as I enjoy watching and learning from them, I'll never be able to practice what I'm learning. I do however, have an oxy-acetylene set up and after seeing this video, am very optimistic. I mean you welded up a beautiful outside joint with no filler rod! That's huge to me!
Hello Bob, I do a bit of gas welding when restoring motor cars and also wear bi focal glasses. The only way I could weld with goggles were to drop them down right to the end of my nose, it worked but was uncomfortable. The answer was what you used that is a full face green tinted mask. No problems at all now.
Great video! 9th grade high school metal shop the first welding we did was oxy acetylene then arc. I still remember the first time i heard a POP turning off the touch acetylene first. I can still feel the warm stick oven on a cold day. I have 3 grown sons. None of them had a metal shop at their high school. Sad. I thought I missed out because my school stopped offering motocross a few years before I got there.
Thanks Bob for going old school with us! You just showed many of your viewers something beautiful that they have never before seen. When I attended The Hobart Institute of Welding Technology almost 20 years ago the first class for every student was oxygen acetylene welding, cutting and brazing. That was a 30 day course back then. Where I work we have some very sensitive and expensive parts that we hard surface with oxygen acetylene process. The hard face is crack sensitive and has a very dissimilar melting temperature from the base metal. The welds must be X-ray quality and dilution must be held to a minimum. The old torch is the only way to go on these parts. Maybe you will braze in a future video?
Bob all your welding videos are a huge inspiration. I wish I could take your welding courses and learn as much as possible from you. Unfortunately I live out in California so it's not possible. I really enjoy your videos though, thank you!
I'm in California as well. While I would also love to take a course from Bob the welder, there are some great programs for beginning welders. I learn from some really great welders at my local community college.
that's quite cool, i like how we can see the entire weld pool without the intense light of an arc obstructing and masking it, i know the biggest problem for me when i was introduced to welding in high school was seeing what the crap i was doing with that intense arc. i think this is gonna be my go-to way to weld stuff from now on wherever possible
Nice. You don't see that very often. Oxy-acetylene welding was my first introduction to welding back in the 80s. With a filler rod or coat hanger or what ever there aren't many small jobs that you can't weld with this method.
I learned oxy/actelene in high school. Been doing it for 50 years. Jus bought my first mig welder. A Miller 215. Hope I like it. I mostly weld 16 gauge square tubing.
Bob, this video is quite helpful. As a really old guy, I'm now optimistic that I can gradually learn to gas weld in remaining lifetimes. BTW, just wait until you need trifocal safety glasses.
As far as vision goes, I've had good results by getting my latest prescription, and talking to the optician about it. They can make all kinds of glasses that I never thought of. They can be made for the working distance you want, for example. It's a pain to change over, but it's worse to not be able to see. Then you can put the magnifiers in your goggles or helmet, and there it is! It also could be mentioned that the high-tech automatic goggles (from Korea, I think Miller sells them, they're like automatic sunglasses) come with a little insert and you can have prescription lenses put in there. And you look like you're in the FUTURE. Among other things, I think having all the vision stuff in order helps you to resist the temptation to stick your face up close to the arc. Anyway, great stuff, and I definitely want to see more gas welding.
Recent update: I''ve always thought this process was slow to get going, lots of heat into the general project, everything turns read and so on... it recently came up in an educational setting... I realized that I've always been lazy to change the tip! A student was remarking on how long it took to get a puddle... We just went up ONE tip size, and look out! It was a new day! I've seen similar demonstrations in TIG-welding, where more Amps yields less total heat damage because the operation is so much faster. It was like that. I'm sure I've seen a chart for this, connecting tip sizes to gage of work? Anyway, I'll pay more attention to this going forward.
Cool! I love old school stuff! When I went to school for welding you had to learn oxy acetylene welding and cutting before you could move on to anything else. If I remember the terminology we even got to play around with some old school carbon arc welding!
Thanks for this excellent video. I just retired from engineering and bought a torch. oxy-acetylene means I don't need to rewire my garage and since I'm planning to move, it means my welder is totally portable. If there's more to cover, I'd like to see more oxy-acetylene videos.
It's a lost art almost, I learned to gas weld in high school before any other process and I think it made learning arc, mig and tig easier. I do a fair amount of all styles regularly but I guess I enjoy gas mostly since it was my first. Good video
i am one of those old timers at 63. Only processes the Air Force taught were Oxy/Act and Arc for us A/C guys. I have welded many a large things with these processes almost every day. I am a 100 percent disabled vet on early social security and do well on that. Oxy gave great basics to start with. Hence have purchased an old MIG machine about 20 years ago which I picked up quickly. I thought it was something new to the marketplace then. I want to buy a TIG soon. My question Bob is that the TIG process looks so simular to Oxy/Act in running the puddle. Am I way off base? By the way sir, I appreciate you taking your time to educate us here on U Tube. I enjoy it very much. Respectfully Submitted Harold Watkins
Not at all off base. I teach OFW and GTAW in the same semester because of the same hand eye skill set. Great question. Hope I answered ok. Thank you for the feedback and support. Much appreciated. B
Nice demo Bob. I was very impressed with your friends weld on such thin metal - didn't notice any warping. Most people today scoff if you mention oxy welding but I, like you, learned on it and I really like it. Yes it's slower than the other processes but that's what I like about it. It's just so easy to control and see. No smoke, sparks, etc. and when you're finished there's no slag to remove and the weld looks perfect. My eyes aren't what they used to be and sometimes I have trouble seeing the weld puddles with MIG or stick if the lighting isn't good but with gas I have no issues.
Hey Bob, I wear bifocal glasses and found that it don't work well with my cheap helmet. so i had reading glasses made to match the lower part of the bifocals and they work great for welding.
Thanks Bob, that was very informative, and actually exciting to watch how the weld puddle flowed! Made my day, agree wholeheartedly with Paul Greenlee !
Good lesson. Iron worker welder always learning and studying. Professional development every day, and willing to invest! Not many do. Good stuff to learn. I'll practice in my home shop. I appreciate it. Looking to step out on my own a bit.
Thanks Bob, never saw that done. I was always told you had to use a filler rod. Still learning but have used a tig that way on thin stainless with out filler.
I've only been welding for 2 years now but I offen cut with oxy acetylene I'd like to try this, I can tell by watching you weld it that your getting sufficient penetration, I've always known that you can weld in such a fashion but never seen it demonstrated like this. I do think your right by using a smaller tip and not thumping to much heat in to give yourselve better control. Thanks
I have two oxi-acetylene setups that I have always used just for cutting, mostly old cars that sat in the dirt too long. I was really impressed with your video and since I have an unused welding torch I might give a try at making metals join together instead of just hacking stuff up. Can you (or anyone) recommend a video about metal compatibility or dangers like what I have heard about galvanized steel? Great informative video, thanks!
Looks like a tig weld because they are very similar processes, really. Electric flame(arc) vs combustion flame. Correct me if I'm wrong. Watched an old craftsman somewhere on youtube do an oxy acetylene repair on an aluminum aircraft wheel fairing. No a/c necessary. Great video as usual. Keep on keeping it real, Bob.
That's really great. I am trying to learn welding and am trying to get into TIG. I like a challenge but I do feel like doing some Gas Welding would be a good step to just get a better feel of the puddle.
fantastic video Bob and crew. I too am an old timer, but I can't wear Bi-focals to weld, makes me sick. most guys started with flame welding, except me. My dad was a Welder and trained me with E6010. probably the most difficult rod to learn with, but it did end up making me a better welder in the end. when I took welding classes and the teacher had me gas weld there was a smaller learning curve. I don't know if I would recommend it for others. because it was very discouraging at times. I didn't have a choice. that was 42 years ago. I love every moment of my 42 years welding trying to make it to 100 year welding...
I had my optometrist make me glasses so that the sharpest area is at my weld puddle distance. They work great!!! And I use tri-focals every where else.
Hi Bob, Oxy acetylene and TIG are very similar techniques in my view, just a different heat source. We didn't have all the "rod" options for varying strengths and materials in the old days either. Our only choices back then were O/A and BIG stick welders, the little home welder didn't exist back in the 1950's. O/A is still useful if you dont have power in a paddock or on a job site. And it's still used for brazing and silver solder by plumbing and HV trades. I can relate to your vision problem. If you think bi focals are bad you need to try progressive lenses - you feel like your head is on a spring! I've ditched the standard arc welding helmet for the biggest window I could get, because I would regularly hit the line on the bifocals and could see nothing. Keep up the great videos.
That was cool ALSO I have watched several tutorials most of the men had real attitudes and started to turn me off of welding But you was real calm Thanks Teach
I would love to learn how to gas weld like this. Really cool to watch. I have only used mig welders in the past and really want to learn to gas weld. Thx ....Paul
WOW thats great. thanks. when i started wedling my boss told me about doing what he called aircraft gas welding. that the aircraft shops here in Wichita would NOT hire you if you wasnt taught aircraft gas welding they would not hire you. but i wasnt able to learn that from him.
When I learned to weld, gas welding in my opinion was more enjoyable. Even after learning Mig and Tig seeing the bead you create from whip with just a torch and no dip that's finesse. I'm only 24 but I'm not sure why oxy-acetylene isn't as popular, I rarely see it on site, and majority of the people I ask frown upon it, either it's due to the difficulty or some other factor is involved.
I've been welding 14 gauge outside corners with my MIG and having a challenging time of it. The joints are 48" long and there are four of them. Its good to see this process, but I think it would be too slow for me. Good video!
Yes, I did start using that and it was easier. Still fitting up these thin metals is a challenge and burning through is a problem. But the .023 wire did help.
Tack it in the required number of places. Make a weld you can comfortably do without burning through (1/4 to 1/2 inch) on the left side welding from right to left (assuming you are right handed). Then back up the same amount (1/4 to 1/2 inch) and weld to the previous weld... repeat until finished.
thats exactly how I was taught to gas weld, a gate lock box. funny I was at my local shop, having some banter, the young lads said they never been taught it.
I bought a used oxy/acetylene rig with my first pay check from my first real job back in 1965 and I have never regretted it. It was something I always wanted and I built a lot of projects with it. I still gas weld once in a while. To me , it's like tig welding. It should be the first type of process learned in welding school.
Gas welding is a great technique teacher. I only started welding 3 years ago but I was first taught with gas and learned how to control a puddle. Not to mention it is very meditative. I would do more of it on my own time if acetylene wasn't so expensive.
That’s why I loved to weld with gas! It was meditative, full focus! Very good for my adhd- mind 😂
is it more expensive than electric welding?
You really can't beat a teacher that truly loves the subject he's teaching!
Been a gas welder for over 45 years. My dad hooked me with the smell of the torch when repairing the fuselage of his Piper Cub. I've been a long time tig welder too but I still love to pick up my Smith's airline or Meco torch and run beads.
I've used a Smith Airline torch for years, but just got a Meco Midget and was welding with it today. Those things are a dream to hold and use! Hardly any weight at all. I still love the Smith torch I have, but I have to say that the Meco unit is really a neat little torch!
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Took a welding class from an old timer years ago. Everybody started with the torch until they were proficient before proceeding to stick, mig and tig. Best welding class I ever had.
same here, worked as a full time fabricator for a while, and it was amazing how many guys my age and younger had never picked up a torch except for cutting, and these were guys who had been to welding school.
More oxy fuel videos please. When I first started learning on old timer put me on the brazing bench for 2 weeks. The slow speed is great when you're learning. Filling holes and caping tubes teaches heat control. You learn the hand motions etc. Best 2 weeks of learning I've ever gotten.
I'm 69 and first learned O-A welding many years ago. Moving to stick and Heliarc was relatively easy, since O-A teaches puddle and heat control. I, too, made many things with O-A welding and brazing and still use my torch and Heliarc set-up. Making things helps relax body and mind plus I made a very good living when times were tough. Good vid, good weld and good teaching!
Those welds are amazing, after trying oxy acetylene welding I didn’t think it was possible to be this consistent.
Greatest thing Bob is to get all that old school knowledge onto RUclips. Thanks! Clean parts and a perfect flame under an old master yields some mighty fine results.
Thanks for showing this, Bob. Like a lot of folks, when I learned to weld in high school in the late '60s we were taught oxy-acetylene welding, brazing and cutting, and stick welding 'cause that's about all there was. I hadn't touched a torch for about 30 years until I picked up a used rig about a year ago and it's amazing how quickly it came back. Welding with a torch is a really good way to learn puddle control, applicable to just about any technique.
Really appreciated. I’ve been welding with gas since I worked at a garage in 1985. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the weld pool, and the benefits of watching someone else and how they move the heat. That’s great footage. I know I appreciated it. Coming back to welding without filler is a real boon for me. You’ve got skill and I just picked up a bit watching. Thanks
Bob you are by far the humblest master craftsman I have ever watched. What a pleasure, and it goes without saying your work is excellent.
I had my optometrist make me glasses so that the sharpest area is at my weld puddle distance. They work great!!! And I use tri-focals everywhere else. I started gas welding in the 60s. Learning puddle control is 90% of welding anyway. All the other processes were easy to learn. Us older folks have a lot to teach the kids!!! I'm retired, but still weld for fun (gas, tig and stick). Great video, Bob.
At trade school we had to learn to do gas welding and brazing. Some guys complained that they would never need to use this method. We started on 1/8" plate and finished up on 1/2" plate. Still a great skill to have.
Bob you have inspired me to break out my gas welding equipment and step back to when I learned to weld 30 years ago. I have not done gas welding in about 15 years, everything now is TIG welded. Oxy Acetylene is only used for heating and cutting today and its a shame it was a fun way to weld.
mr. moffett i was watching your videos while practicing for quite a while, and then as welding is, i got it. i saw it. i understood what i was seeing. i went out iron working! as life is, now a coulpe 2 tree years later im back in school. im at another welding school advancing my skills. watching your videos was a big part of learning.
Hi Bob, Thank you so much for posting this. As a home gamer, I OA weld exclusively these days (only gear I have). I too learned OA first in HS in the 80's and had to master puddle control before being allowed to move on to stick. It was years after high school before I touch my first MIG welder.
I saw a "study" online a year or two ago in which a community college tried to evaluate the efficacy of "bothering" to teach OA in their program. They evaluated two groups of students in terms of "ability to learn MIG." The two groups were those that learned OA first and those that went straight to MIG.
They found little difference between the two groups and concluded OA was not bringing anything to the table. I think that was the wrong test though. If they wanted to evaluate OA's value in prepping students for a more "modern" process, I think the test should be TIG, not MIG.
In any case, as a non-pro welder, I think OA has a very important place in training programs (and in practical use). I'd really like to hear your thoughts on what is apparently happening in programs dropping OA and especially that "study" concluding the process did not benefit students for learning MIG.
Thanks again for the great demo.
I’m not old I’m 16 but first thing I learned how to weld on was infact gas and call me crazy but I prefer it over other welders
Agreed man I'm 16 too I just looooove oxy acetylene I can do it all you name it 1f 2f 3f 4f out side corners etc.
I took welding in high-school 16 years ago and absolutely loved oxy welding
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Bob, you are the master welder with out a doubt! Great example of how to torch weld, i learn something from every video even after being a welder for many years, thanks for sharing your skills.
heck yeah man, I started on OA just because it was cheap and sounded pretty versitile. Learned a lot on that process. I spent about 2 years only working with OA, and finally ponied up the cash for a tig welder and when I switched over to tig it was super easy. I really honestly believe OA is the best way to learn welding, not just because it teaches fundamentals but also because it teaches patience and finesse. I'd love to see more of these videos.
I went to welding school for 2 yrs 1969-71. When shop part started , we were fortunate that the welding machines hadn't arrived, although we didn't think so at the time. So for several weeks we learned how to Oxy-Acetylene weld. I am now 68 yrs old and retired and thankful I had the chance to learn this first.
Keep up the great job. Thanks for the video.
This cat never fails to amaze me. Whichever way, he choose's... Taking us to where the Metal meets the Heat. A true master at his craft. Thanks again Bobby & much Aloha!
Mr Moffet you are the man! Great weld! It was not that long ago (yes it was) that in my high school class all we started with was oxyfuel welding, in a small town out in California. Now I'm 35 and after getting certs in structural steel and pipe welding I still go back every now and then and dust off that oxyfuel just for "old times sake" lol.
brought back memories. starting out gas welding as an apprentice, it was up to us to practice at lunch times. it reminded me of how relaxing gas welding can be, except when you are having to do it in position off a stepladder. so versatile. the old, steel pipe we had here in nz, you could heat up 15mm pipe and free bend it. would come out better then from using the press.
back in 92 when i started out, thats the first thing we learned before we ever began stick welding. 👍
That’s what I’m learning right now in 2020, I’m 14 btw
I’ve seen a lot of gas welding videos.
This one was by far the best. Excellent camera work and MOST IMPORTANTLY the best torch work I’ve seen so far.
Awesome “stack o’ dimes” sir!
Was just gas welding this afternoon, great timing. Your welds look much better than mine. I enjoy gas welding, like to see more videos on it. Thank You Bob.
Outstanding bead. That's an impressive weld.
perversely good
Yes Weld-done..
It's easy to do also, and no power needed, so out on the farm etc nothing beats it !!
Hey George, I each all your vids as well.
Great stuff the pair of you.
I've never had the chance to try gas welding, my local college didn't do any (!), so it's great to see this demo and I'm impressed by the quality of that weld. Great demo, thanks.
Thanks for replying to my comment - question about gas welding body panels ! I read some articles written by older gentlemen active in the restoration business and they said they preferred gas welding to tig welding on body panels because the gas welds were not as hard and were easier to , when necessary, to hammer into a finished shape.
Thanks Bob, beautiful bead. Haven't gas welded in a thousand years but it was the first welding process I ever tried and I loved it. Unlike arc welding it's a silent process, very easy to control and kind of relaxing. No one uses it anymore which I think is a shame. Closest thing to TIG in a lot of respects. Yes you dump a lot of heat into your base metal and it has the propensity to cause thinner metals to warp but just so easy to control the weld puddle.
at 86 now, when I was working, this was everyday stuff! When I see guys on youtube so call 'welding' 20 gauge with mig, I have to smile!
As a sertified welder in South Africa i do alot of welding when i am off.... I am a Paramedic. didnt go into the trade that much. My Trade is fitter and turner.... I love my Stick welder. thats the cheapest welding you can get in this part of the world. Theral and Heluim gas wil cost you alot. .since i find this channel i learned alot.. things that was left out in school or things i forgot.. kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND VIDEOS
This is the first process I learned. Very useful and no power required!
Beautiful ! I forgot all about gas welding. It's only been 45 years since I learned. Time for some refresher practice.
That's the first welding process I learned in Vocational welding school in 1978 lots of hours spent in the booth welding different joints and getting graded on my performance..Thanks for sharing
i first learned this Oxy welding in middle school industrial arts class back in 1984. This is an excellent video.
Add me to the old guys list. I came up through the apprentice class as a shipboard pipefitter working as a civilian at the Naval Shipyard in Long Beach Calif. Union job, we did a lot of Oxy/Ace brazing, but no welding, that was the welder's job. We fit the pipe and the welders welded it. There was no gas welding, so while I can silver braze with the best of them, I never learned to gas weld. I have a gas rig, I think I am going to give gas welding a shot. Oh, I have a flux core wire feed welder, but I'm much more comfortable with gas. Thanks for your excellent video, you got me motivated!
I would love to see more videos on Gas Welding...
Great video. This type of welding was my first many years ago. I'll be trying to bring this to the young men at work who can't think outside the box on how to get things done. Thank You so much.
Another great video...I was teaching a welding school grad today how to gas weld and to solder/braze as well. They never even taught the kids the basics..very sad...either way, it was fun....his brazing looked better than mine ! Lol....thanks again for your videos ! Great job from a master !
we're working on oxy-torch welding and cutting in my industrial mechanics course and it is an art form and takes a lot of practice. You are very knowledgeable and i'd like too see more videos like this. Your tig videos are awesome and if you could do oxy-torch welding and maybe even some cutting that'd be very interesting to watch and see what techniques and tips other people have
Back in the early 80’s in the USAF, we welded a lot with acetylene. Both welding and brazing. I used to give my younger people 20 gage and watch them squirm until they got it. The pride on their faces when they did, priceless. TIG? Anyone can do it after a few tries.
Worked with a pipe welder .He welded his 2 inch with gas man was he fast and no failure. A skill we are losing. Love the show
We still use this process here in Ireland on pipe up to about 3 1/2" - 4" , we find it quicker and cheeper than a stick weld or tig weld , unlike yourself we use a bigger tip and add rod
Same here in Los Angeles. Gas distribution up to 4”
Good video. Brought back memories of my dad doing A/O welding in the back yard when I was a kid. Haven't seen anyone do it in a while. thanks for sharing.
That really worked for me! I'm trying to teach this stuff in a small way (short courses, community ed. kind of thing) and keep clamoring for this technique as an introduction. It makes so much sense! Make a puddle, move it around. You know! I find that there's a universal idea that welding is like glue, I want to overcome this right at the beginning. The natural thing is to get a MIG machine, put some spatter all over something and call it welded. Also, I love torches, and find that a lot of kids do, too. The torch is so handy and versatile and quick (quick to put into action) I think it will never be obsolete.
Bob moffat...you are one of the best i saw..i'm also a welder from Philippines and i salute you
I think Oxy A is one of the best tools to have. You can use it to weld, cut, bend, heat, and I'm sure a whole bunch of other things. I dont know about anybody else but I sure would love to see and learn more on it. Great video and great weld.
Just getting in to gas welding and it helps to see what good results and a great technique look like.
All of the other welding videos I've seen so far show techniques using 220V MIG or TIG equipment. I only have access to 110V MIG and it doesn't seem like there's much I can do with it, or I haven't yet found the right videos to watch. Anyway, as much as I enjoy watching and learning from them, I'll never be able to practice what I'm learning. I do however, have an oxy-acetylene set up and after seeing this video, am very optimistic. I mean you welded up a beautiful outside joint with no filler rod! That's huge to me!
Hello Bob,
I do a bit of gas welding when restoring motor cars and also wear bi focal glasses. The only way I could weld with goggles were to drop them down right to the end of my nose, it worked but was uncomfortable. The answer was what you used that is a full face green tinted mask.
No problems at all now.
I’m not an old guy but I just started welding school and these videos are super helpful
Another great video excellent camera work. It was the first process as kids we had to learn before Stick welding.
thank you for that, not everybody can afford a proper electric welder, this shows how to get it done the right way without breaking the bank.
Great video!
9th grade high school metal shop the first welding we did was oxy acetylene then arc. I still remember the first time i heard a POP turning off the touch acetylene first. I can still feel the warm stick oven on a cold day. I have 3 grown sons. None of them had a metal shop at their high school. Sad. I thought I missed out because my school stopped offering motocross a few years before I got there.
Thanks Bob for going old school with us! You just showed many of your viewers something beautiful that they have never before seen. When I attended The Hobart Institute of Welding Technology almost 20 years ago the first class for every student was oxygen acetylene welding, cutting and brazing. That was a 30 day course back then. Where I work we have some very sensitive and expensive parts that we hard surface with oxygen acetylene process. The hard face is crack sensitive and has a very dissimilar melting temperature from the base metal. The welds must be X-ray quality and dilution must be held to a minimum. The old torch is the only way to go on these parts. Maybe you will braze in a future video?
It's on the list. We generally release requests in order they come in, but I believe this one is scheduled for May 1.
Boy Bob I did not think I would ever be called a oldtimer! I learned to gas weld in 1955 in my dads shop.
Bob all your welding videos are a huge inspiration. I wish I could take your welding courses and learn as much as possible from you. Unfortunately I live out in California so it's not possible. I really enjoy your videos though, thank you!
Wayne T it's possible. I travel well..
+Bob Moffatt is it bad that all I want to do is just stick welding I want to learn it all
I'm in California as well. While I would also love to take a course from Bob the welder, there are some great programs for beginning welders. I learn from some really great welders at my local community college.
We do stuff like this in school
that's quite cool, i like how we can see the entire weld pool without the intense light of an arc obstructing and masking it, i know the biggest problem for me when i was introduced to welding in high school was seeing what the crap i was doing with that intense arc. i think this is gonna be my go-to way to weld stuff from now on wherever possible
Nice. You don't see that very often. Oxy-acetylene welding was my first introduction to welding back in the 80s. With a filler rod or coat hanger or what ever there aren't many small jobs that you can't weld with this method.
I learned oxy/actelene in high school. Been doing it for 50 years. Jus bought my first mig welder. A Miller 215. Hope I like it. I mostly weld 16 gauge square tubing.
Bob, this video is quite helpful. As a really old guy, I'm now optimistic that I can gradually learn to gas weld in remaining lifetimes. BTW, just wait until you need trifocal safety glasses.
This fella has what it takes to be a great teacher!
As far as vision goes, I've had good results by getting my latest prescription, and talking to the optician about it. They can make all kinds of glasses that I never thought of. They can be made for the working distance you want, for example. It's a pain to change over, but it's worse to not be able to see. Then you can put the magnifiers in your goggles or helmet, and there it is! It also could be mentioned that the high-tech automatic goggles (from Korea, I think Miller sells them, they're like automatic sunglasses) come with a little insert and you can have prescription lenses put in there. And you look like you're in the FUTURE. Among other things, I think having all the vision stuff in order helps you to resist the temptation to stick your face up close to the arc. Anyway, great stuff, and I definitely want to see more gas welding.
One of the most seamless welds I ever made was with oxy-acetelyne, that was last week and it was my third or so time using it.
Recent update: I''ve always thought this process was slow to get going, lots of heat into the general project, everything turns read and so on... it recently came up in an educational setting... I realized that I've always been lazy to change the tip! A student was remarking on how long it took to get a puddle... We just went up ONE tip size, and look out! It was a new day! I've seen similar demonstrations in TIG-welding, where more Amps yields less total heat damage because the operation is so much faster. It was like that. I'm sure I've seen a chart for this, connecting tip sizes to gage of work? Anyway, I'll pay more attention to this going forward.
Cool! I love old school stuff! When I went to school for welding you had to learn oxy acetylene welding and cutting before you could move on to anything else. If I remember the terminology we even got to play around with some old school carbon arc welding!
Thanks for this excellent video. I just retired from engineering and bought a torch. oxy-acetylene means I don't need to rewire my garage and since I'm planning to move, it means my welder is totally portable. If there's more to cover, I'd like to see more oxy-acetylene videos.
It's a lost art almost, I learned to gas weld in high school before any other process and I think it made learning arc, mig and tig easier. I do a fair amount of all styles regularly but I guess I enjoy gas mostly since it was my first. Good video
You know what, i'm actually thinking about getting into it!!
i am one of those old timers at 63. Only processes the Air Force taught were Oxy/Act and Arc for us A/C guys. I have welded many a large things with these processes almost every day. I am a 100 percent disabled vet on early social security and do well on that. Oxy gave great basics to start with. Hence have purchased an old MIG machine about 20 years ago which I picked up quickly. I thought it was something new to the marketplace then. I want to buy a TIG soon.
My question Bob is that the TIG process looks so simular to Oxy/Act in running the puddle. Am I way off base?
By the way sir, I appreciate you taking your time to educate us here on U Tube. I enjoy it very much.
Respectfully Submitted
Harold Watkins
Not at all off base. I teach OFW and GTAW in the same semester because of the same hand eye skill set. Great question. Hope I answered ok.
Thank you for the feedback and support. Much appreciated. B
I've learned a lot from RUclips about welding. I thought tig welding would be too complicated but it's not as bad as I thought.
Nice demo Bob. I was very impressed with your friends weld on such thin metal - didn't notice any warping. Most people today scoff if you mention oxy welding but I, like you, learned on it and I really like it. Yes it's slower than the other processes but that's what I like about it. It's just so easy to control and see. No smoke, sparks, etc. and when you're finished there's no slag to remove and the weld looks perfect. My eyes aren't what they used to be and sometimes I have trouble seeing the weld puddles with MIG or stick if the lighting isn't good but with gas I have no issues.
We ALL wanted to see the back side.
Nothing to see. I wasn't trying to achieve penetration to the backside. When I open one up and use filler metal, I'll give it a go.
Anything your welding with the oxy/acetylene process will not need full penetration any way. Usually sheetmetal.
All you will see is a clean 90 deg inside corner
Hey Bob, I wear bifocal glasses and found that it don't work well with my cheap helmet. so i had reading glasses made to match the lower part of the bifocals and they work great for welding.
Thanks Bob, that was very informative, and actually exciting to watch how the weld puddle flowed! Made my day, agree wholeheartedly with Paul Greenlee !
Good lesson. Iron worker welder always learning and studying. Professional development every day, and willing to invest! Not many do. Good stuff to learn. I'll practice in my home shop. I appreciate it. Looking to step out on my own a bit.
Thanks Bob, never saw that done. I was always told you had to use a filler rod. Still learning but have used a tig that way on thin stainless with out filler.
It's the same as Tig, just a flame instead of an arc
I've only been welding for 2 years now but I offen cut with oxy acetylene I'd like to try this, I can tell by watching you weld it that your getting sufficient penetration, I've always known that you can weld in such a fashion but never seen it demonstrated like this. I do think your right by using a smaller tip and not thumping to much heat in to give yourselve better control. Thanks
I have two oxi-acetylene setups that I have always used just for cutting, mostly old cars that sat in the dirt too long. I was really impressed with your video and since I have an unused welding torch I might give a try at making metals join together instead of just hacking stuff up. Can you (or anyone) recommend a video about metal compatibility or dangers like what I have heard about galvanized steel? Great informative video, thanks!
i been welding long time but i never stop learning , thank you ser
Looks like a tig weld because they are very similar processes, really. Electric flame(arc) vs combustion flame. Correct me if I'm wrong. Watched an old craftsman somewhere on youtube do an oxy acetylene repair on an aluminum aircraft wheel fairing. No a/c necessary. Great video as usual. Keep on keeping it real, Bob.
Wow! I have OA for cutting. I had no idea you could weld so nicely with just gas. Awesome demonstration
this is a good method to get started from nothing right up to building major / critical shop tools
That's really great. I am trying to learn welding and am trying to get into TIG. I like a challenge but I do feel like doing some Gas Welding would be a good step to just get a better feel of the puddle.
fantastic video Bob and crew. I too am an old timer, but I can't wear Bi-focals to weld, makes me sick. most guys started with flame welding, except me. My dad was a Welder and trained me with E6010. probably the most difficult rod to learn with, but it did end up making me a better welder in the end. when I took welding classes and the teacher had me gas weld there was a smaller learning curve. I don't know if I would recommend it for others. because it was very discouraging at times. I didn't have a choice. that was 42 years ago. I love every moment of my 42 years welding trying to make it to 100 year welding...
I had my optometrist make me glasses so that the sharpest area is at my weld puddle distance. They work great!!! And I use tri-focals every where else.
Tough rod to start with (6010). Still find it a tough rod to use, like a mini volcano
This was totally cool. I remember being taught this back in 1971-3. GJ!
You me making me feel old. My first welding instruction was oxy acetylene welding back in the 60's.
Hi Bob,
Oxy acetylene and TIG are very similar techniques in my view, just a different heat source.
We didn't have all the "rod" options for varying strengths and materials in the old days either. Our only choices back then were O/A and BIG stick welders, the little home welder didn't exist back in the 1950's.
O/A is still useful if you dont have power in a paddock or on a job site. And it's still used for brazing and silver solder by plumbing and HV trades.
I can relate to your vision problem. If you think bi focals are bad you need to try progressive lenses - you feel like your head is on a spring! I've ditched the standard arc welding helmet for the biggest window I could get, because I would regularly hit the line on the bifocals and could see nothing.
Keep up the great videos.
You can cut with O/A also.
Yes indeed. Here's a video we did a few weeks ago on O/A cutting: ruclips.net/video/xZAAmgfjr-0/видео.html
Think so?
m.ruclips.net/video/aF1Srs_e1Aw/видео.html
That was cool
ALSO
I have watched several tutorials most of the men had real attitudes
and started to turn me off of welding
But you was real calm
Thanks Teach
I would love to learn how to gas weld like this. Really cool to watch. I have only used mig welders in the past and really want to learn to gas weld. Thx ....Paul
WOW thats great. thanks. when i started wedling my boss told me about doing what he called aircraft gas welding. that the aircraft shops here in Wichita would NOT hire you if you wasnt taught aircraft gas welding they would not hire you. but i wasnt able to learn that from him.
Great video, I learned to gas weld better after I learned to TIG weld. I guess heat management is the deal. Thanks
Inspirational video. Well done Bob. Superb job and great teaching.
When I learned to weld, gas welding in my opinion was more enjoyable. Even after learning Mig and Tig seeing the bead you create from whip with just a torch and no dip that's finesse. I'm only 24 but I'm not sure why oxy-acetylene isn't as popular, I rarely see it on site, and majority of the people I ask frown upon it, either it's due to the difficulty or some other factor is involved.
i love the production quality of this content
That's awesome. I have heard of the torch being the "poor man's TIG." That shows why.
I don't even weld but I subbed anyway. This is very intriguing and something I hope to learn someday before I retire from my current career.
I've been welding 14 gauge outside corners with my MIG and having a challenging time of it. The joints are 48" long and there are four of them. Its good to see this process, but I think it would be too slow for me.
Good video!
Are you using the tiniest wire (.023)... it makes a lot of difference.
Yes, I did start using that and it was easier. Still fitting up these thin metals is a challenge and burning through is a problem. But the .023 wire did help.
Tack it in the required number of places. Make a weld you can comfortably do without burning through (1/4 to 1/2 inch) on the left side welding from right to left (assuming you are right handed). Then back up the same amount (1/4 to 1/2 inch) and weld to the previous weld... repeat until finished.
thats exactly how I was taught to gas weld, a gate lock box. funny I was at my local shop, having some banter, the young lads said they never been taught it.
Thanks Bob. You are a great teacher.