The three times that what are called beaver are shown, the pictures are of nutria or coypu. The white muzzles and whiskers give them away, as the beaver has a black muzzle and whiskers. The size of the nutrias in Oregon has decreased a great deal over the last half-century. There were probably several subspecies of them introduced from their native South America and a larger strain may have established itself first and then smaller subspecies won out over time. In 1967, I found a nutria that had just been killed by a dog near the Willamette River. Using my salmon scales, I found that it weighed 77 pounds. The nutria that I have been seeing over the years since, have been much smaller and tend to be less blackish and more brownish in color than those very large ones of the past.
Isn't that the Rough Water Training Area for the CG where the Columbia River enters the Pacific? I've watched video's of the CG surfing waves with those Rescue Boat's... I'm retired Navy and I've seen my share but THAT was pretty wild if I do say so myself...😉
Hah! @ 12:00 Queen of the West Used to work on that ship Definitely a job that helped me seek more of a connection with my Oregonian roots and history. I love this State In spite of social and political ills, It's core is still amazing to me
If Washington Irving knew what the government and utility companies did, in the name of the economy, he would be rolling in his grave. Shame on those that would destroy our precious life giving earth.
Astoria ♥️ had 3 NDE the longest flatline was 17 min 3 sec and now know of a past life in Astoria and it is a magical place. continuous dreams of Astoria in my sleep, I was a bar pilot...
Astoria is a great little town.I have lived here for just about 60 years and the population is still reading around 10,000.The gillneters are just about unheard of anymore.The goverment has run the fishing Industry into the ground.
Astoria is where the movie Kindergarten Cop with Arnold Schwarzenegger was filmed,,, But more important Astoria is where Donald MaLarky of Band Of Brothers was born and lived
I WAS BORN HERE BUT I WAS ADOPTED IN NORTH CAROLINA , I NEVER GOT TO GROW UP IN ASTORIA BECAUSE MY PARENTS LEFT NOT TOO LONG AFTER I WAS BORN TO GO TO N.C., I ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE ASTORIA AND NOW I AM 60 YEARS OLD LIVING IN LOUISIANA. I HOPE BEFORE I LEAVE THIS WORLD THAT I WILL GET TO GO TO SEE ASTORIA.
sheryl reyes I was adopted here too and I've lived here all my life and if you can't get there in person I have pictures of many beautiful places and I wouldn't mind sharing them with someone that would like to see them
I HOPE FOR YOU THAT AT LEAST IF NOT GOING CAN BE GRATEFUL FOR THOSE WHO BROUGHT THE VIDEO TO YOU ITS THE ONLY WAY I TRAVEL DEAR ITS THE SAFE CHEAP WAY TO GO... YOU TUBE IT THERE....HAHA I HAVE CAPS LOCK ON TOO, JUST A COINCIDENCE ENJOY LOUISIANNA TOO MAKE A VID!
sheryl reyes - I was born in Astoria and go back to visit whenever I can. I hope you get to visit. Astoria must be experienced to be fully appreciated, especially in the winter.
I was born near the outer banks but moved to Astoria soon after. I've been all around including LA. Astoria is one of the few towns on the West coast worth seeing. Do not go in the winter. May-October and September is probably best after the kids are back in school. Water gets up to 60 in the summer. I live out here now and miss the southeast and the warm water and warmer people. Enjoy what you have but visit Astoria if you get a chance, central Cali is nice too, other than that you're not missing anything.
Astoria is an ancient place. This video doesn't have much of the facts straight, then again the entire narrative concerning the history of us all is pretty shaky at best.
Fun Fact- Astoria Oregon is where after only a short telephone discussion with Colleen at the Astoria Chamber of Commerce, the world-famous philanthropist Niles Standish decided to establish his revolutionary community-integrated rehabilitation facility Lollypop House!
All the timber being cut there is being exported to Asia, ex-Weyerhauser exec. told us. Once factory ships started catching and canning at sea...the Astoria economy collapsed! I took a walk around the boatyard there and there are hundreds of old rotting hulks...reminiscent of good times gone forever...
bullshit..astorias economic downturn had nothing to do with factory ships..it declined because the state restricted salmon fishng so severely. you did not see :hundreds of rotting hulks:: anywhere in Astoiria
I'll blame the Californians for anything I want to and nobody gives a fuck what the natives thought when the Europeans came to settle on their land so why even bring it up. And, yes, this is my way of attempting to prevent what you call sociocultural evolution and I call gentrification. So stay in California with your own kind and leave us the hell alone.
***** Gentrification sucks. It misplaces people. Why you think that is something good proves you're just some tweezerbeak who thinks he's better than anyone else. Im here to tell you that you're not, capiche?
@@thegodhoward8037 Were are you now? Astoria has bout 10 ,000 people ,Its wet in the winter , very Plesant in the summer 65 to 75 And they made a lot of movies in Astoria , ITS VERY PRETTY Very green ..
@@joshualunsford8511 I know that's what makes this comment so good but not a single like lol I thought it was a funny comment I guess no one agreed with me
Astorias’ history began long before your story did. Begin this history lesson where it started, the men that went over the top of the mountain, and came down and built Fort Astoria. My great great, great grandmother was the princess of the chief of the Clatsop tribe.
If you go to Astoria , unfortunately you will not have much to see. Most of the stores are closed up and the town is dying. I noticed this the last time I was there in 2018. This was BEFORE COVID-19 of course. I can't imagine what its like now.
We're doing alright. Business are constantly closing down, just to have another one open up in it's place. I live in Astoria and i have a hard time keeping track of the new stores.
Right about the time of the Goonies movie I was a kirby guy. 1985 86 87 we sold a lot of kirby's. Especially in Longview across the river... I never met such warm welcoming folks and I went all over. We took over the jacuzzi suites at the seaside hotel and ran phone girls and salesmen. And the ABC volleyball tournament went off and it was like one big party everywhere... really wonderful hobbits in their holes all over the place
I used to sell Kirby vacuums as well for one of my first jobs. Never had much luck selling an $1800 vacuum when you can get a decent one for $80. Though, they are top-notch cleaning machines.
Grew up there over fifty years ago......it was very cool with very cool people...the last ten or 15 years, though, its been turned into a tourist trap, the cool people and families that lived there are gone and we have a bunch of assholes from California, the midwest and east coast who have moved here and fucked it all up. Too bad, it really was the place to be in the 1950s-60s &70s
I hope that im not bothering you to much by asking if you knew my grandparents, you see my grandmother Blanch Enlund people called her peggy and my grandfather David Enlund lived there for many years. Peggy was head of Toast Masrers and attended the First Presbyterian Church and organized the Scandinavian festivals for many years. Grandpa David Was a Tug boat captian for many years and his tug The Peacock is in the Maritime Museum, wich i have yet to have ever been there to see in my 48 years of life......
Assholes from the mid-west? Most of the people in the mid-west are far nicer than you folks out west, not to mention the complete lack of customer service, no public restrooms, etc. You guys really know how to treat people like crap! Your attitude is just more evidence.
Why don’t you talk about the Astoria group that came over the mountains with John Astoria and Joseph Gervais with his wife and others that begins before the rest of this, so why are you leaving this out?
It's sad all American history is about progress moving in and destroying a place. I work in habitat restoration and we try to rebuild salmon habitat on the Columbia River. All anyone cares about is the dollar
And now it's 2020 and let the sea lions, seals eat up the salmon. All they want because they won't kill the damn things. I remember 30 years ago the first sea lion, in the Columbia. I told my wife at the time someone needs to kill that son of a bitch. now there's thousands eating up the salmon and the sturgeon... they say they don't eat sturgeon I was at Bonneville watching those damn things eating breakfast. big sturgeon big one's.
Sadly, the homeless alcoholics, meth & heroin addicts are now taking over the sidewalks & parks, having filled Seattle & Portland to overflowing. The NW corner of the state of Oregon...badly needs an "enema"...
They spent the winter in a fort they built, and prepared for the return trip in the spring. The purpose of the expedition was to document the territory, its people, and its fauna and flora. Their work is recorded in their journals.
Cut the sanctimonious soy talk.. Look up kennewick man.. a european skull found on the columbia river years ago.. it predated natives by thousands of years. We don't own the land, we just live on it until someone else takes it from us. Enjoy the ride, and quit virtue signalling!
Lisa’s Chi Chi Chan - Everyone born anywhere in the Americas is a native American, as far as I am concerned. The Amerinds fought each other over land too, you know.
No one lived here before people crossed the land bridge from Asia. You could say those first Americans "stole" the region from the fish and buffalo if you want to take that psuedo-logic. People were fighting over land in America and across the world and still do when they don't trade and seek the objective truth. Be thankful for the Western enlightenment and do some research on the reality of all humanity.
this is a damn lie its los angeles has been a city in the west since the early 1500's and so have many other california cities like san francisco san diego santa rosa sacramento. So this publisher cant say that astoria is the oldest american city when there were other american cities before it thank you :)
Adrian Navarro - It says “oldest American settlement west of the Rocky Mountains.” California was not settled by Americans (meaning U.S. citizens) until after the Mexican-American war in 1848.
John Lee what does that have to do with his comment? Is Florida west of the Rockies? Are you being sarcastic and I look stupid now? I just can’t tell anymore
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Thanks for sharing this video. Whether we like it or not, history is history and it is to be recognized to help shape a better tomorrow.
I went to Tongue Point Job Corps Center '96 through '97. Love this unique little corner of the worlds - never knowing its history
I did to , late 79 80 and 81 I liked it a lot , Im from Astoria
Did you ever visit or work at Lollypop House, the Tongue Point Job Corps Centre used to recruit a lot of its staff and even a few of its in-patients?
I lived there from 1978 until 1985 and had Absolutely No idea what enormous history it has, but Americans think that it’s best known for the Goonies
Such a beautiful little city.
I was there last week on a fishing trip. Absolute beautiful place.
Did you ever go in the west hills of Astoria? Its one of the prettiest places i have ever scene. I was born in Astoria in 1960
@@theodoreritola7641 I don't think so. We were mainly there to go fishing. We did go up to a tower that over looked a large area.
@@jdmjdm2094 OOOO The Astor Colum 164 steps I have been up it maybe 4 or 5 times
The animals shown at 3:51 and 4:29 and 5:37 , are not beaver. They are nutria. Nutria were not even introduced to Oregon until the 1930's.
Yeah, how could anyone try to pass off a nutria for a beaver? It's kinda insulting. Good show otherwise, though.
3:51 specifies beaver and "other fur bearing animals." At 5:37 if you look closer the thick tail is a beaver.
@@matthewpeterson1030 there the Lewis an Clark river never hear of the Lewis river
The three times that what are called beaver are shown, the pictures are of nutria or coypu. The white muzzles and whiskers give them away, as the beaver has a black muzzle and whiskers. The size of the nutrias in Oregon has decreased a great deal over the last half-century. There were probably several subspecies of them introduced from their native South America and a larger strain may have established itself first and then smaller subspecies won out over time. In 1967, I found a nutria that had just been killed by a dog near the Willamette River. Using my salmon scales, I found that it weighed 77 pounds. The nutria that I have been seeing over the years since, have been much smaller and tend to be less blackish and more brownish in color than those very large ones of the past.
My favorite place to vacation. Perfect distance to the beach too
I spent many a day on Coast Guard Motor Life Boats in that area. Miss that!
Isn't that the Rough Water Training Area for the CG where the Columbia River enters the Pacific? I've watched video's of the CG surfing waves with those Rescue Boat's...
I'm retired Navy and I've seen my share but THAT was pretty wild if I do say so myself...😉
Great video
Hah!
@ 12:00
Queen of the West
Used to work on that ship
Definitely a job that helped me seek more of a connection with my Oregonian roots and history.
I love this State
In spite of social and political ills,
It's core is still amazing to me
I can't believe they snuck a video camera into the 1800s. Idk how they did it, but the footage is amazing!
Wow, I lived there after my beautiful daughter was born.. 1977. Met one of my best friends.
If Washington Irving knew what the government and utility companies did, in the name of the economy, he would be rolling in his grave. Shame on those that would destroy our precious life giving earth.
Astoria ♥️ had 3 NDE the longest flatline was 17 min 3 sec and now know of a past life in Astoria and it is a magical place. continuous dreams of Astoria in my sleep, I was a bar pilot...
Were you ever a resident of Lollypop House in Astoria Oregon in any of your dreams?
Astoria is a great little town.I have lived here for just about 60 years and the population is still reading around 10,000.The gillneters are just about unheard of anymore.The goverment has run the fishing Industry into the ground.
Human greed and the fishing industry did that.
Logging runoff, industrial and sewage pollution, overfishing and huge upstream dams are what have destroyed the salmon.
that's to bad. Astoria is the most beautiful place in the world our government became Marxist/ communist.
@@lindastonebraker2512 communist
@@tylerjohnson221 communist
Astoria is where the movie Kindergarten Cop with Arnold Schwarzenegger was filmed,,, But more important Astoria is where Donald MaLarky of Band Of Brothers was born and lived
I WAS BORN HERE BUT I WAS ADOPTED IN NORTH CAROLINA , I NEVER GOT TO GROW UP IN ASTORIA BECAUSE MY PARENTS LEFT NOT TOO LONG AFTER I WAS BORN TO GO TO N.C., I ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE ASTORIA AND NOW I AM 60 YEARS OLD LIVING IN LOUISIANA. I HOPE BEFORE I LEAVE THIS WORLD THAT I WILL GET TO GO TO SEE ASTORIA.
sheryl reyes I was adopted here too and I've lived here all my life and if you can't get there in person I have pictures of many beautiful places and I wouldn't mind sharing them with someone that would like to see them
I HOPE FOR YOU THAT AT LEAST IF NOT GOING CAN BE GRATEFUL FOR THOSE WHO BROUGHT THE VIDEO TO YOU ITS THE ONLY WAY I TRAVEL DEAR ITS THE SAFE CHEAP WAY TO GO... YOU TUBE IT THERE....HAHA I HAVE CAPS LOCK ON TOO, JUST A COINCIDENCE ENJOY LOUISIANNA TOO MAKE A VID!
sheryl reyes - I was born in Astoria and go back to visit whenever I can. I hope you get to visit. Astoria must be experienced to be fully appreciated, especially in the winter.
I was born near the outer banks but moved to Astoria soon after. I've been all around including LA. Astoria is one of the few towns on the West coast worth seeing. Do not go in the winter. May-October and September is probably best after the kids are back in school. Water gets up to 60 in the summer. I live out here now and miss the southeast and the warm water and warmer people. Enjoy what you have but visit Astoria if you get a chance, central Cali is nice too, other than that you're not missing anything.
I love it this documentary really !
I was born in Astoria and I was today years old when I realized who it was named after lol
Got my degree in oceanography there in the seventies. Great little town.
Until I visited the old cannery wharf I didn't understand the reference by Ace Ventura when he said "Bumble bee Tuna" !! lol
One eyed willie better have a mention in this video
Thank u
Astoria is an ancient place. This video doesn't have much of the facts straight, then again the entire narrative concerning the history of us all is pretty shaky at best.
What does this video have that's not correct? The credits state that a historian was involved with making this documentary.
Paintings of the only sunny day of the year
Fun Fact- Astoria Oregon is where after only a short telephone discussion with Colleen at the Astoria Chamber of Commerce, the world-famous philanthropist Niles Standish decided to establish his revolutionary community-integrated rehabilitation facility Lollypop House!
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All the timber being cut there is being exported to Asia, ex-Weyerhauser exec. told us. Once factory ships started catching and canning at sea...the Astoria economy collapsed! I took a walk around the boatyard there and there are hundreds of old rotting hulks...reminiscent of good times gone forever...
bullshit..astorias economic downturn had nothing to do with factory ships..it declined because the state restricted salmon fishng so severely. you did not see :hundreds of rotting hulks:: anywhere in Astoiria
crickets
@@BlankUberEverybody hey what's it like in astoria? I was born there but never got to stick around
@@thegodhoward8037 it's beautiful
BlankUberEverybody Just out of curiosity, what is it that shaped your opinion on Astoria?
I'll blame the Californians for anything I want to and nobody gives a fuck what the natives thought when the Europeans came to settle on their land so why even bring it up. And, yes, this is my way of attempting to prevent what you call sociocultural evolution and I call gentrification. So stay in California with your own kind and leave us the hell alone.
***** Gentrification sucks. It misplaces people. Why you think that is something good proves you're just some tweezerbeak who thinks he's better than anyone else. Im here to tell you that you're not, capiche?
BlankUberEverybody Californians defacate on your soul
they dont even know I exist...until it's too late.
BlankUberEverybody you definitely don't have a spouse Huh....
I was born there but never got to stay I really want to go and see what it's like there
I was to in 1960 , I have lived there off and on around 20 years
@@theodoreritola7641 I'm back in Oregon now but I'm still working to go back to Astoria
@@thegodhoward8037 Were are you now? Astoria has bout 10 ,000 people ,Its wet in the winter , very Plesant in the summer 65 to 75 And they made a lot of movies in Astoria , ITS VERY PRETTY Very green ..
And very old ,But kept up well
@@theodoreritola7641 I'm currently outside Salem trying to find work since I just got here about a week ago
Built some houses in Astoria back in ought six an ought seven before the great recession
This comment could work for two different centuries:)
@@joshualunsford8511 I know that's what makes this comment so good but not a single like lol I thought it was a funny comment I guess no one agreed with me
@@joshualunsford8511 an I really did help build some house up there back on 06-07 before the great recession hit
They act like they discovered it but there was people already there!!!
Everyone knows that and always has. They discovered it *for Europeans*. We don't have a shared history.
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2:32, Robert Gray discovers the Columbia River.
Matter of fact, I took a walk today on the Sandy there is. (no fish) like there used to be..
You're not kidding!!! I fish the Sandy frequently and rarely do I see a fish. Sad at best.
Hell Ye my state ;'3
Willapa Bay oysters
Hey Willis 👍
Astorias’ history began long before your story did. Begin this history lesson where it started, the men that went over the top of the mountain, and came down and built Fort Astoria. My great great, great grandmother was the princess of the chief of the Clatsop tribe.
I live there
This hurts...
If you go to Astoria , unfortunately you will not have much to see. Most of the stores are closed up and the town is dying. I noticed this the last time I was there in 2018. This was BEFORE COVID-19 of course. I can't imagine what its like now.
We're doing alright. Business are constantly closing down, just to have another one open up in it's place. I live in Astoria and i have a hard time keeping track of the new stores.
Unfortunately its not the town it used to be.
@@oregonwanderer Stuff changes. That's life
@@gregbors8364 Yep. Thats for sure. At 60 years old I know that. LOL
No more salmon.
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Right about the time of the Goonies movie I was a kirby guy. 1985 86 87 we sold a lot of kirby's. Especially in Longview across the river... I never met such warm welcoming folks and I went all over. We took over the jacuzzi suites at the seaside hotel and ran phone girls and salesmen. And the ABC volleyball tournament went off and it was like one big party everywhere... really wonderful hobbits in their holes all over the place
P.O.S. you is !!!!
I used to sell Kirby vacuums as well for one of my first jobs. Never had much luck selling an $1800 vacuum when you can get a decent one for $80. Though, they are top-notch cleaning machines.
Shame what they did to the native people, salmon populations, and animal populations
shame what you did to the people who lived before you where you live...
You mean improved it, or outlawed the Native slave trade.
communist. I know exactly that is what you are!!! Karl Marx ideology split divide and shame to manipulate...
Grew up there over fifty years ago......it was very cool with very cool people...the last ten or 15 years, though, its been turned into a tourist trap, the cool people and families that lived there are gone and we have a bunch of assholes from California, the midwest and east coast who have moved here and fucked it all up. Too bad, it really was the place to be in the 1950s-60s &70s
So TRUE !! THE WORTHLESS SHIT FROM CALIFORNIA AND THE EAST COAST ARE THE VILE EFFLUANT SEWER SPUE THAT WRECKS THE WORLD !!!
Yep, it's become one of the 8 libtard counties in Oregon. Crawling with junkies and homeless people along with Cali/Portlandia douche bags.
I hope that im not bothering you to much by asking if you knew my grandparents, you see my grandmother Blanch Enlund people called her peggy and my grandfather David Enlund lived there for many years. Peggy was head of Toast Masrers and attended the First Presbyterian Church and organized the Scandinavian festivals for many years. Grandpa David Was a Tug boat captian for many years and his tug The Peacock is in the Maritime Museum, wich i have yet to have ever been there to see in my 48 years of life......
now now now...let's not group the good people of the midwest in with the California and east coast assholes....
Assholes from the mid-west? Most of the people in the mid-west are far nicer than you folks out west, not to mention the complete lack of customer service, no public restrooms, etc. You guys really know how to treat people like crap! Your attitude is just more evidence.
I live about an hour from there. RAIN all the time..no thanks.
tell everybody you see. rains everyday, don't move here.
@@sb1806 every single day
As If it was the word of the day aughhhh. Heu heu he.
Why don’t you talk about the Astoria group that came over the mountains with John Astoria and Joseph Gervais with his wife and others that begins before the rest of this, so why are you leaving this out?
It's sad all American history is about progress moving in and destroying a place. I work in habitat restoration and we try to rebuild salmon habitat on the Columbia River. All anyone cares about is the dollar
Agreed. Greed is the motivation for most everything. The western US would be completely different without it.
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And now it's 2020 and let the sea lions, seals eat up the salmon. All they want because they won't kill the damn things. I remember 30 years ago the first sea lion, in the Columbia. I told my wife at the time someone needs to kill that son of a bitch. now there's thousands eating up the salmon and the sturgeon... they say they don't eat sturgeon I was at Bonneville watching those damn things eating breakfast. big sturgeon big one's.
Sadly, the homeless alcoholics, meth & heroin addicts are now taking over the sidewalks & parks, having filled Seattle & Portland to overflowing.
The NW corner of the state of Oregon...badly needs an "enema"...
The Liberals are taking root... 🙄
The Earth is Flat, not a globe.
True story.
Germs are really demons
Why isnt the MOON FLAT?
His-story. What a joke. What the hell did Lewis and Clark really do for the year they were out hear? Or was it longer????
What are you implying? You can easily Google what they did.
They spent the winter in a fort they built, and prepared for the return trip in the spring. The purpose of the expedition was to document the territory, its people, and its fauna and flora. Their work is recorded in their journals.
It should read “An Adventure in stealing Land from the Native Americans”
Cut the sanctimonious soy talk.. Look up kennewick man.. a european skull found on the columbia river years ago.. it predated natives by thousands of years.
We don't own the land, we just live on it until someone else takes it from us. Enjoy the ride, and quit virtue signalling!
@@pujabelgian , actually it was found through DNA testing that Kennewick Man was most certainly related to Native Americans.
Lisa’s Chi Chi Chan - Everyone born anywhere in the Americas is a native American, as far as I am concerned. The Amerinds fought each other over land too, you know.
Nah, it should be called, "Lisa's chi chis are $10,000 worth of Chinese silicone".
No one lived here before people crossed the land bridge from Asia. You could say those first Americans "stole" the region from the fish and buffalo if you want to take that psuedo-logic. People were fighting over land in America and across the world and still do when they don't trade and seek the objective truth. Be thankful for the Western enlightenment and do some research on the reality of all humanity.
Honestly Lewis and Clark the Astorias think they were a gay couple the end lol.
Sal Hernandez - No. Only idiots thnk that.
If they were gay that would have made Astoria far better. Thx
this is a damn lie its los angeles has been a city in the west since the early 1500's and so have many other california cities like san francisco san diego santa rosa sacramento. So this publisher cant say that astoria is the oldest american city when there were other american cities before it thank you :)
Adrian Navarro - It says “oldest American settlement west of the Rocky Mountains.” California was not settled by Americans (meaning U.S. citizens) until after the Mexican-American war in 1848.
Adrian flashing his towering ignorance.
The oldest continuously occupied settlement anywhere in N. America - St. Augustine, Florida.
Those are jerk ass mexi towns, way before territory or statehood ...
You jerk ass clown....
John Lee what does that have to do with his comment? Is Florida west of the Rockies? Are you being sarcastic and I look stupid now? I just can’t tell anymore
@@JohnLee-io1ne Since when is Florida west of the Rockies??
Greed
Total lie.
No mention of the Hudsons Bay Company and its foothold in Astoria, this is a terrible historical video.
]Most of the material is wrong.
this is a BS video almost all is wrong. I know I live here.
Yet you haven’t pointed out one error. I was born there. Name one thing.
Whats wrong bout it?