For the cotton harvester, I think it's important that you can eject an unfinished bail of cotton from the Case Harvester. The JD you can not. I've been left high and dry on contracts because I couldn't deliver all the cotton since the JD Harvester had 9,954 L still in the tank.
Yeah same, worked 2 hours on a contract Whit the JD cotton harvester. I brought the bales to the sell point but couldn’t complete the contract because the left cotton. Had the cancel it, what a shame :(
@@Boaz_963 I wish the game would also apply "Missing crops" penalty (which we see at the end of contract payment view but it is nonexistent tbf). They should add an option to end a contract early and still get a payment of how much work you have done, so it doesn't go to waste like this. I just bought JD Harvester today and was disappointed when my tank was at %80. Then I found a mod which had fast harvesters although they had the same problem as JD. I guess I am going to have to go with Case Harvester too.
@@christophermartin5742what you can always do is find another cotton contract use the next field to finish your bail then complete the first contract. You can then cancel the new one.
The Man 4x4 truck should've been in your list. It can act as a tractor. Its usually the first thing i purchase on a playthrough. Cheapest 500 hp tractor you can get. Though slightly limited. I usually get it so I can run that 8m subsoiler without wasting all my money on one tractor early on
Best vehicle in hundreds is MAN simi-truck. It has truck mount in the middle, and trailer mount in the rear. So it can attach most of the equipment and works on fields, like cultivation.
There's one piece of equipment I buy in every savegame which is the small amazone fert spreader with 42m working width. It makes it's money so quickly doing fert contracts that it's a must buy imo
Agreed. I usually buy it along with the lindtrac small tractor because its maneuverable with quad steering and just send it off to do fertilizing contracts with AI helper/courseplay.
The Hardi Rubicon has an advantage over the smaller one you picked, it can raise its boom high enough to go over rows of olives and grapes, that is 14 rows in one pass
my favorite rig is the Man 4x4. you can hook up farm equipment and pull all the trailers. the Man has a shorter wall base you can turn it tighter and get it into smaller areas when pulling a semi trailer
dude the MAN truck is TOP TIER, it can hook up to a ball hitch, pintle hitch, 5th wheel, AND it has a PTO! And it can pull the same weight as the other 90k trucks. PLUS the offroad tires make it great on the fields for those realism players. No other semi in the game comes with that many features
Great video, love hearing about some of these underrated pieces! That is a great callout on the Helianthus headers, I never noticed that they run 50% faster, and I'm doing a sunflower map right now! For planting, I stopped buying the Kinze 4905 because it requires liquid fertilizer, at least to run it with a worker (maybe this isn't the case anymore?). I always just buy two of the smaller 12m Kinze 3665 run both of them in parallel with Courseplay. The smaller Kinze costs $11625 per meter of planting width and can run behind a well equipped medium tractor (MF 8S for example). The large Kinze costs $13708 per meter, requires a large upfront investment, and requires a large tractor to pull it.
The MAN trucks can be used for farm work... so I usually end up going with one of them early on to pull around equipment because they have so much horsepower and PTO in the front and rear.
The planter capacity is a total with seed and fertilizer together. It will not hold that much seed. It’s deceiving and can be disappointing on larger fields.
I am a big fan of the John Deere 7R - only large tractor with a front loader, has a belly weight so with the Albut Bale King very easy to move 4 bales in one go, can run narrows, reasonably quick, and enough HP to run wide seeders/planters, rollers, and either spreader as well as plow. Great row crop or dairy tractor.
I quite like the Dalbo MaxiCut mulcher. It's 5.8m compared to the TMC 610, which is 6m, but the Dalbo runs 50% faster so you end up getting more work done. As you pointed out with the windrowers, working width isn't everything.
I like the Case ll cotton hsrvestor over the John deer one just because when your done harvesting, you and even the AI can unload the full harvested field on the Case ll. The John deer doesn't let you unload the unfinished cotton harvest. So you don't get to complete the contract sadly
I like the MAN truck just because its very versatile, can take a lot of different types of trailers. The The Fendt Favorit is a great little tractor, lots of horsepower and versatility for the price. The Ventor 4150 just because the folding/unfolding and harvesting animations are so awesome, only reason i do potatoes.
And the MAN truck has a PTO that way it can also pull the anderson bale trailers or other farming equipment if needed. But as I'm mostly playing european maps where I would have hard times getting the US trucks around corners I never even tried if they can use PTO equipment as well...
I started with the 1000 Vario and now feel proud that I made a good choice! Then I realized I could reroll starts on farm manager mode until I hit it in the used vehicle shop. Got that with the biggest engine and twin wheels for 209k! NOW I am finally ready to start :)
Two more best in category items: For headers, the Case IH/New Holland 3162 TerraFlex/SuperFlex Draper - you can fold it and then it becomes its own trailer. No need to load and unload the header from a separate trailer and remember where you placed that. The game doesn't mention it in the "combinations" list, but you can also attach it to other large harvesters. For example I'm using it with the Claas Lexion 8900. And for trailers, the Krampe SKS 30/1050 because it has the 2nd biggest capacity and can store ANYTHING (except liquids).
Oh and my personal favorite early/mid game jack of all trades tractor is the JCB fasttrac 4220. It drives 65kph, has all wheel steering, front loader, thin tires, front 3 point and front pto. Basically the only reason why you would need to buy a second tractor is heavy equipment with huge power requirements.
I think my favorite mod tractor is the AGCO 1000 - similar to the Fendt 1000 - the mod includes that version, the Jenz-Fendt and the Challenger colors. And it has enough lighting to rival a small sun, so great for those pitch black nights on an Oxy map!
I agree. I did a test one day to compare all versions of the Fendt 1000 base game and mods on console. For some reason the AGCO 1000 mod just performs way better, like from what I notice it has more torque, or just a a better gearbox. It just pulls heavy loads way better than all the 1000s Also has the best customization, and best value. I just wish it had the tire option of the Fendt 1000 US mod
John Deere 7R 350 is my go-to base game tractor. Throw the BKT rear duals on it, the center weight and a loader and it's a do-all tractor for any mid sized farm. 388hp for 300k with all that versatility? Yes please!
The MAN TGS has a power output at the rear so you can use trailers liker seeders/planters, spreaders, etc etc.. i use it instead of lagre tractors, since it's 100+k cheaper than a lagre tractor with the same horsepower :)
Favorite piece of equipment is the Challenger large tractor. There's no real benefit to it over others, not the highest horsepower, not the heaviest, not the fastest, just absolutely love the looks of it.
Awesome video, helps me out a lot as a new player. Do you have vids on whats a great way/clever or route to make tons of money quick? (not cheating) maybe even reusing the crops to other sources after harvesting them, example: Such as barley for chicken feed & then using the straw from it to make money or for bedding.
Silage bales my friend. The payouts are large and consistent. You don't have to replant grass, it regrows multiple times a year, and the equipment to get started is fairly inexpensive. Make sure to get a bale autoloader trailer though, otherwise you will go a little bit crazy trying to manipulate bales.
Correct me if I'm wrong but with the windower, i get the math behind it being almost 20. But that's with 2 passes of the length of the field. So if you went by trips up and down the field, wouldn't that bigger ones still win? Because 2 passes with the larger one say 15m would be 30m's right?
Yea bigger ones are still faster but they require mpre momey, horsepower and there windrows actually will have less total grass so bailing is slower :)
Honestly, i use a modded version of the base game stuff, If i can. The bale loaders are the only thing i might use if Idon't use an autoloading trailer.
I like the Fendt 900 more. Little bit more maneuverable than the 1000, same top speed. Has reverse drive control too. I’ve not found much of a use for that though!
Back when they introduced it, they had a mower you could put the front mower on the rear mower. With that set up and a baler behind you could work silage really fast. That was in FS17 if my memory is correct
Great video, Rigitrack electric tractor is the greatest piece of machinery you can buy. 68,000$ for 75 hp. You'll be surprised that it can actually operate anything up to 120HP requirement on flat ground. I was forced to use it in an all electric farm and actually love this stupid little tractor, so much torque because of electric. JCB all the way for med+large tractor
The MAN truck is the omly one I think you are wrong with here, given you will play with a truck doing cultivation and stuff like that. it has a pto. so you can run a lot off equipment that a tractor at the same price can not, you have a 130 000 "tractor" with 500 horsepower.
plus the Mack superliners 0 to 51 (top speed) is only better than the anthem from my tests (Mack pinnacle 15.76s 0 to 51mph Mack anthem 18.19s 0 to 51mph MAN TGS 12.23s 0 to 51mph Mack superliner 16.00 0 to 51mph ) its longer than the MAN so no tight turns. and its better to get the pinnacle because you don't need 500 hp there's really no difference between them.
I like themost 6 mtr width equitmen. ( dutch guy here) when it come to tractors i give my preference to the deutz and jcb ones for mid sized as for small tractors I mostly go for deutz, mf, valtra. And for big ones I mostly use the claas, jcb or fendt. For trucks I go for the man, for harvesters I like the new holland one . The spayer I use the same one. This only if I work with in-game machinery. Mostly when it comes to mods I try to use all gaints mods. And ohter mods are csz pack the small case spayer and the lizard plow that you can buy in 6 mtr or 9 mtr width. And the rest of my mods are only maps.
A thought regarding the 1050 Vario: You make the point that it's good value for money, but if you do the math, it costs 709.86/hp. I would propose the 1167 Vario MT in its place, which is rated at 673hp, and only costs 667.9/hp.
Fair enough not many if you're only playing base game, but I tend to play using base game and all of the Giants mods, and there's a few implements between their mods and the base game that do get *very* close.
The John Deere picker's price reflects the real-world advantages it has over the Case, and it should be noted that market share in cotton combines is dominated by John Deere's round-baler because of the efficiency and the reduction in labor and machinery as a result of the Deere picker's technology. Because the game does not require cotton modules to be treated as they are in the real world, that advantage in-game is wasted. Thus the price is poorly reflected. That said, I prefer the Deere because it is a continuous harvester, and on large fields can save significant amounts of real time. The 770 mod (I believe) provides the wider header as well, making it a genuine win over the Case even considering prices. A large cotton field and the requisite industry buildings will more than pay for the extra cost of the harvester, and I get that part of the process done much faster and can move on to further prepping the field for planting the next season.
The problem I find with almost every base game semi that Giants has provided is...Their traction is terrible and way off. You can have an empty trailer, be parked on the side of field next to the road, or in the headland, with just a little incline, the truck has a hard time taking off, it spins way to easily. Sometimes it can't even take off at all, the newer Volvo from the Platinum DLC is terrible. If you're on hard pack ground or a road surface, and have a load on, I'm sorry, but a real tractor / trailer is not going to have this poor of traction.
For the cotton harvester, I think it's important that you can eject an unfinished bail of cotton from the Case Harvester. The JD you can not. I've been left high and dry on contracts because I couldn't deliver all the cotton since the JD Harvester had 9,954 L still in the tank.
Yeah same, worked 2 hours on a contract Whit the JD cotton harvester. I brought the bales to the sell point but couldn’t complete the contract because the left cotton. Had the cancel it, what a shame :(
I can’t fold and unfold cotton harvesters, I have to hire workers so they unfold it then fire them but it doesn’t fold
@@Boaz_963 I wish the game would also apply "Missing crops" penalty (which we see at the end of contract payment view but it is nonexistent tbf). They should add an option to end a contract early and still get a payment of how much work you have done, so it doesn't go to waste like this. I just bought JD Harvester today and was disappointed when my tank was at %80. Then I found a mod which had fast harvesters although they had the same problem as JD. I guess I am going to have to go with Case Harvester too.
4 hours wasted here-😂
@@christophermartin5742what you can always do is find another cotton contract use the next field to finish your bail then complete the first contract. You can then cancel the new one.
The Man 4x4 truck should've been in your list. It can act as a tractor. Its usually the first thing i purchase on a playthrough. Cheapest 500 hp tractor you can get. Though slightly limited. I usually get it so I can run that 8m subsoiler without wasting all my money on one tractor early on
Man's agro trucks are absolutely amazing in game and irl 💪
quite cheaty for me
Best vehicle in hundreds is MAN simi-truck. It has truck mount in the middle, and trailer mount in the rear. So it can attach most of the equipment and works on fields, like cultivation.
@@bryanleong8233it shouldn’t
@@neonwhitea.1548 Eventually we will buy USED large tractors, it feels more real.
There's one piece of equipment I buy in every savegame which is the small amazone fert spreader with 42m working width. It makes it's money so quickly doing fert contracts that it's a must buy imo
That was my first fertilize spreader and I stuck with it, I also have an extra tank with it to hold more.
Agreed. I usually buy it along with the lindtrac small tractor because its maneuverable with quad steering and just send it off to do fertilizing contracts with AI helper/courseplay.
The Hardi Rubicon has an advantage over the smaller one you picked, it can raise its boom high enough to go over rows of olives and grapes, that is 14 rows in one pass
my favorite rig is the Man 4x4. you can hook up farm equipment and pull all the trailers. the Man has a shorter wall base you can turn it tighter and get it into smaller areas when pulling a semi trailer
Jaysus that’s some yoke haiii roll on silage 2k24🤟🏻🤠🤠🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
dude the MAN truck is TOP TIER, it can hook up to a ball hitch, pintle hitch, 5th wheel, AND it has a PTO! And it can pull the same weight as the other 90k trucks. PLUS the offroad tires make it great on the fields for those realism players. No other semi in the game comes with that many features
Great video, love hearing about some of these underrated pieces! That is a great callout on the Helianthus headers, I never noticed that they run 50% faster, and I'm doing a sunflower map right now! For planting, I stopped buying the Kinze 4905 because it requires liquid fertilizer, at least to run it with a worker (maybe this isn't the case anymore?). I always just buy two of the smaller 12m Kinze 3665 run both of them in parallel with Courseplay. The smaller Kinze costs $11625 per meter of planting width and can run behind a well equipped medium tractor (MF 8S for example). The large Kinze costs $13708 per meter, requires a large upfront investment, and requires a large tractor to pull it.
The MAN trucks can be used for farm work... so I usually end up going with one of them early on to pull around equipment because they have so much horsepower and PTO in the front and rear.
The planter capacity is a total with seed and fertilizer together. It will not hold that much seed. It’s deceiving and can be disappointing on larger fields.
I noticed the same thing a few days ago, was partially disappointed 😅
I am a big fan of the John Deere 7R - only large tractor with a front loader, has a belly weight so with the Albut Bale King very easy to move 4 bales in one go, can run narrows, reasonably quick, and enough HP to run wide seeders/planters, rollers, and either spreader as well as plow. Great row crop or dairy tractor.
I believe the 8R also has a front loader attachment.
@@Guythatplaysjalopy 8RX has it so classic 8R does
I quite like the Dalbo MaxiCut mulcher. It's 5.8m compared to the TMC 610, which is 6m, but the Dalbo runs 50% faster so you end up getting more work done. As you pointed out with the windrowers, working width isn't everything.
I like the Case ll cotton hsrvestor over the John deer one just because when your done harvesting, you and even the AI can unload the full harvested field on the Case ll. The John deer doesn't let you unload the unfinished cotton harvest. So you don't get to complete the contract sadly
I like the MAN truck just because its very versatile, can take a lot of different types of trailers. The The Fendt Favorit is a great little tractor, lots of horsepower and versatility for the price. The Ventor 4150 just because the folding/unfolding and harvesting animations are so awesome, only reason i do potatoes.
And the MAN truck has a PTO that way it can also pull the anderson bale trailers or other farming equipment if needed. But as I'm mostly playing european maps where I would have hard times getting the US trucks around corners I never even tried if they can use PTO equipment as well...
My favorite base game planter is either the Kinze 3665 or the Tempo L 16. Their affordable and the Kinze direct drills
Great video, great information. Thank you.
I started with the 1000 Vario and now feel proud that I made a good choice! Then I realized I could reroll starts on farm manager mode until I hit it in the used vehicle shop. Got that with the biggest engine and twin wheels for 209k! NOW I am finally ready to start :)
Thank you for your videos you do a great job many many thanks
Two more best in category items:
For headers, the Case IH/New Holland 3162 TerraFlex/SuperFlex Draper - you can fold it and then it becomes its own trailer. No need to load and unload the header from a separate trailer and remember where you placed that. The game doesn't mention it in the "combinations" list, but you can also attach it to other large harvesters. For example I'm using it with the Claas Lexion 8900.
And for trailers, the Krampe SKS 30/1050 because it has the 2nd biggest capacity and can store ANYTHING (except liquids).
Oh and my personal favorite early/mid game jack of all trades tractor is the JCB fasttrac 4220. It drives 65kph, has all wheel steering, front loader, thin tires, front 3 point and front pto. Basically the only reason why you would need to buy a second tractor is heavy equipment with huge power requirements.
I think my favorite mod tractor is the AGCO 1000 - similar to the Fendt 1000 - the mod includes that version, the Jenz-Fendt and the Challenger colors. And it has enough lighting to rival a small sun, so great for those pitch black nights on an Oxy map!
I agree. I did a test one day to compare all versions of the Fendt 1000 base game and mods on console. For some reason the AGCO 1000 mod just performs way better, like from what I notice it has more torque, or just a a better gearbox. It just pulls heavy loads way better than all the 1000s Also has the best customization, and best value. I just wish it had the tire option of the Fendt 1000 US mod
are u talking about the mod AGCO Vario 1000 US Series or Agco 1000 Series mod?
@@baptistep5558 Agco 1000 Series by Ahran Modding - he's been doing it since FS17.
Dont forget that the red case cotton machine can also empty partial bales. The other can not.
Thx for sharing, greetings from Belgium
John Deere 7R 350 is my go-to base game tractor. Throw the BKT rear duals on it, the center weight and a loader and it's a do-all tractor for any mid sized farm.
388hp for 300k with all that versatility? Yes please!
There was missing a medium tractor option. What would be the best med tractor?
I agree 100 percent with all of those, especially the fendt 1000 is my favorite tractor been using it forever
The MAN TGS has a power output at the rear so you can use trailers liker seeders/planters, spreaders, etc etc.. i use it instead of lagre tractors, since it's 100+k cheaper than a lagre tractor with the same horsepower :)
Moar! 😂 best 2, from each category, beginner equipment/vehicles and best 2 endgame preferences, mods included ❤
Favorite piece of equipment is the Challenger large tractor. There's no real benefit to it over others, not the highest horsepower, not the heaviest, not the fastest, just absolutely love the looks of it.
JD 6r is my go to tractor. Easy to get early on and with Upto 300 hp it’ll work untill the later stages of the game.
Awesome video, helps me out a lot as a new player. Do you have vids on whats a great way/clever or route to make tons of money quick? (not cheating) maybe even reusing the crops to other sources after harvesting them, example: Such as barley for chicken feed & then using the straw from it to make money or for bedding.
Silage bales my friend. The payouts are large and consistent. You don't have to replant grass, it regrows multiple times a year, and the equipment to get started is fairly inexpensive. Make sure to get a bale autoloader trailer though, otherwise you will go a little bit crazy trying to manipulate bales.
@@kr46428 i definitely bought the auto loader. Just need to save for a field now to purchase
Correct me if I'm wrong but with the windower, i get the math behind it being almost 20. But that's with 2 passes of the length of the field. So if you went by trips up and down the field, wouldn't that bigger ones still win? Because 2 passes with the larger one say 15m would be 30m's right?
Yea bigger ones are still faster but they require mpre momey, horsepower and there windrows actually will have less total grass so bailing is slower :)
Honestly, i use a modded version of the base game stuff, If i can. The bale loaders are the only thing i might use if Idon't use an autoloading trailer.
I like the Fendt 900 more. Little bit more maneuverable than the 1000, same top speed. Has reverse drive control too. I’ve not found much of a use for that though!
Back when they introduced it, they had a mower you could put the front mower on the rear mower. With that set up and a baler behind you could work silage really fast. That was in FS17 if my memory is correct
@@gercobosch2870 in 19 there was a mod for that too.
What's your favorite wheel loader, skidsteer and pick up in base game ?
when I was moving pallets around, I used the tracked New Holland skidsteer. It's very manuevable and can lift 1000L pallet with ease.
My go to tractors are massey fergusons mainly cause i grew up around then
Great video, Rigitrack electric tractor is the greatest piece of machinery you can buy. 68,000$ for 75 hp. You'll be surprised that it can actually operate anything up to 120HP requirement on flat ground. I was forced to use it in an all electric farm and actually love this stupid little tractor, so much torque because of electric. JCB all the way for med+large tractor
The MAN truck is the omly one I think you are wrong with here, given you will play with a truck doing cultivation and stuff like that. it has a pto. so you can run a lot off equipment that a tractor at the same price can not, you have a 130 000 "tractor" with 500 horsepower.
plus the Mack superliners 0 to 51 (top speed) is only better than the anthem from my tests
(Mack pinnacle 15.76s 0 to 51mph
Mack anthem 18.19s 0 to 51mph
MAN TGS 12.23s 0 to 51mph
Mack superliner 16.00 0 to 51mph )
its longer than the MAN so no tight turns. and its better to get the pinnacle because you don't need 500 hp there's really no difference between them.
100% agree on Fendt 1000.
Once again: SHOTS FIRED!!!!!
My favorite equipment base game has got to be the Mack SuperLiner
You should make another one of those. Including newer equipment (new packs and DLCs) as well as GIANTS Software mods in the modhub.
I like themost 6 mtr width equitmen. ( dutch guy here) when it come to tractors i give my preference to the deutz and jcb ones for mid sized as for small tractors I mostly go for deutz, mf, valtra. And for big ones I mostly use the claas, jcb or fendt. For trucks I go for the man, for harvesters I like the new holland one .
The spayer I use the same one.
This only if I work with in-game machinery.
Mostly when it comes to mods I try to use all gaints mods.
And ohter mods are csz pack the small case spayer and the lizard plow that you can buy in 6 mtr or 9 mtr width. And the rest of my mods are only maps.
Fent 1050 black beauty.
The MAN is actually really good it can do a lot it can even operate most tractor attachments even pull a plow
The Mack super liner is my go to cargo carrier whatever I put on it it powers through.
Avoid the Four Stack, the alignment of the bales is a lot more picky and so it really slows down picking them up.
I like all cases
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A thought regarding the 1050 Vario:
You make the point that it's good value for money, but if you do the math, it costs 709.86/hp.
I would propose the 1167 Vario MT in its place, which is rated at 673hp, and only costs 667.9/hp.
Are there any tools in the game that needs 673 hp?
Fair enough not many if you're only playing base game, but I tend to play using base game and all of the Giants mods, and there's a few implements between their mods and the base game that do get *very* close.
Saw 1050, liked video. Will all JCB stuff be in the least favourite video?
jcb are the best wym
T6 newholland I find is good tractor start with lots houses power still small where use for lots things
The John Deere picker's price reflects the real-world advantages it has over the Case, and it should be noted that market share in cotton combines is dominated by John Deere's round-baler because of the efficiency and the reduction in labor and machinery as a result of the Deere picker's technology. Because the game does not require cotton modules to be treated as they are in the real world, that advantage in-game is wasted. Thus the price is poorly reflected.
That said, I prefer the Deere because it is a continuous harvester, and on large fields can save significant amounts of real time. The 770 mod (I believe) provides the wider header as well, making it a genuine win over the Case even considering prices. A large cotton field and the requisite industry buildings will more than pay for the extra cost of the harvester, and I get that part of the process done much faster and can move on to further prepping the field for planting the next season.
best small tractor is the class +200 hp
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Farm Cop ask Dj how come John Deer don't have their own header trailer for there own equipment . It's hard dealing with different kind of trailer
The problem I find with almost every base game semi that Giants has provided is...Their traction is terrible and way off. You can have an empty trailer, be parked on the side of field next to the road, or in the headland, with just a little incline, the truck has a hard time taking off, it spins way to easily. Sometimes it can't even take off at all, the newer Volvo from the Platinum DLC is terrible. If you're on hard pack ground or a road surface, and have a load on, I'm sorry, but a real tractor / trailer is not going to have this poor of traction.
Anyone that plays multiplayer, looking for another player? Adult, relaxed, just looking to do some regular farming with other people.
plowing 9m subsoiler 17km/h, 320hp
DO you not like JOHN DEERE? John Deere is the best brand on the markey Case comes in second place
"Base Game" just means no mods?
Yes!
Why are you talking in mph it's 2023
Haha what does it being 2023 have to do with it? I live in the US so thats the speed measurement we use :)