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I think the tolerance-test-tower broke when flexing the build plate. The remnants of the top of tower could only be there if there was something to print on.
To be fair, that something could simply be spaghetti from the parts around it. It's often enough to start printing a failed overhang or even a separate part again despite everything.
That torture toaster was made by clocks spring……dudes a genius It’s called a torture test for a reason lol it tests everything at once because it’s suppose to be hard on your printer lol
I think this is better than testing one thing at a time because when you're printing something that has those kinds of parts and features, you're going to want it to be able to meet all of those specs at the same time. You can't print it right and then go back and print the rest of it with overhangs. Either it can do both or it can't
Remember when i first got my printer, this was one of the first models I printed the first day I set it up. Took 35 hours and ran out of filament because I used the tiny spool that came with the printer, so it was also my first multi color print. Not only did it test the printer, it also tested my patience 😂
I think that the torture toaster is a good general test to see what might need to be tested with a more specific test, or to be something to keep in mind
Benchy does the same thing faster and with less chance of complete failure telling you nothing at all. But like you said, you really need more targeted tests to go beyond “there might be a problem”
I don't understand your criticism of "it tests too many things". Each test is self-contained, as long as it can fit on the print bed, it can test as many things as it wants.
I think it's a better one than the short ones, because how well your printer works off the print bed is really important if you're making anything with vertical height, and the length of time is good check for overheating issues and such before a large print
The coin tolerance test looks so fraudulent haha, the result from the torture toaster seems much more accurate. There's absolutely no way that the 0.05 has THAT much play, it should be super tight in there.
In the video he said 0.5 not .05. Even with that it still doesn't make sense because obviously .1 is tighter than .5... So of course it could fail at .1....
@@RedEp1taph He misspoke in this video. That IS supposed to be 0.05mm, and you can see for yourself in the short just before this one on his channel where he shows it. Also wtf is he talking about when he says "the torture toaster tests too many things at once." Thats the whole point of the toaster. Like, okay bro if you get a nice print in place mechanism that has tight tolerances and overhangs you're just not gonna print it since you can't achieve both tolerance and overhangs???
I think it’s a good baseline test. Like others have stated it tests everything. If there’s a certain aspect that failed, you could probably find a specific test for that to see if it was a failure if the previous test, or your machine.
Yes it is a good test because it tests a lot of different things, one thing that is not so good about it is that its hard to see underline issues as it only mostly test clearances and overhang.
I'd rather have multiple things tested at once because I use multiple functions of the printer on any one design. I rarely have a design that only needs good tolerance of one kind
its probably good, but if there's any issues, such as the fusion there, i'd say print something else specifically meant to test that from your printer. the toaster shows you some things that might be of issue and allows you to zero in on things to see how far they can go
I do like the torture toaster because it's more like a real print. It may fail a tolerance test that a tolerance coin would have passed. It's not for tuning one thing, for me it's to show what sort of results you might get on a real print.
A test needs at least 10 prints and even then its not really statistically relevant. So whatever works and can print the most tests with the least filament is best. Speed of printing is secondary in this use.
I believe the "purpose" is actually to be a test all, if you're needing to do "all the things at the same time then that's the test you'd want to do. If you're specifically trying for tolerance then the tolerance disc would be fine
k-1 is a good printer, but problems may start after the 24th marathon. the probability of failure of the temperature sensor is about 40%, problems with supply, the thermal barrier of the boiler during prolonged heating but lets through plastic, the plastic sensor fails in 10% of printers and a lot of small problems, we have k-1 in our company that just came out and I VERY VERY hope that they fixed critical issues
This feels like the set up to the intro to a infomercial but I have nothing to compare this comment to since I am putting babies first printer together as I type this.
5 hour for tinny tiny toaster (TTT). That's pretty much the same amount of time I printed my Vegita's bust model about 6.5cm tall. 3D printing is fun but you gotta have immeasurable patience.
You know 0.5 is larger than 0.1, right? Surely that 0.1 didn't work is a sign the tolerance test works. "I don't like the result so the test must be wrong" lol
As a one time print it's fine. But you really want a print to test one thing and be small. That way it's fast to print and wastes as little filament as possible. Perhaps after you have it fully adjusted, print the toaster to test everything at once.
Two things I've noticed about a majority of 3d printing videos/shorts is: they're almost always torture test videos(benchy, toaster, coin) or they're recycling waste from said tests. It gives people just casually watching the impression these things make junk most of the time and the videos rarely showcase anything neat/useful.
The toaster test is better than a single tolerance test. Just because you can have low tolerance on something literally made for that test, doesn't mean you can actually use that low of a tolerance for something practical
It’s weird the antennas were dropping pretty quickly. I feel like it should definitely be connecting better. I think I flew that far on the first iteration of the HDZero Whoop vtx.
For everyone who is saying "0.5 is bigger than 0.1", if you look up the model he printed on Thingiverse "Tolerance Coin", it says in the description all of the values are 1/100mm. So apparently that is 0.05mm.
Couple of things: 1) The transition PLA is probably a lot like "silk" PLAs in that the current/stock hotend needs a slower print speed for better control of the depositing filament. I dunno why it is this way; I'm sure one of my cloned selves can spend their week/month exploring the reason. I don't have the time, though. 2) Five hours? May I ask what slicer and settings you used, please? I'm running mine now and Orca is saying 7.5 hours. Thank you.
The toaster is a more accurate test, if you are printing a complex model you'd find your print fused at 0.1 and that is much more valuable than how small can you get on a testing coin.
His other videos usually have a comment saying recommend printer...I'll try to find the links Edit: if you go back to the speed test video a couple videos back he states his favorite beginner printer and favorite mid size printer
My favorite cheap beginner printer is the Kingroon KP3S Pro: amzn.to/40NWmg5 It is cheap and can easily be upgraded to learn more about printing. For a little bit more the Longer LK4X: amzn.to/3Eq9KNa This one has some nice upgrades and features for not much more money, but it isn't a super fast printer. For a high end printer the Creality K1 is really great machine at an impressive price: store.creality.com/products/k1-speedy-3d-printer?aid=JJ
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Would you give the k1 away in a giveaway or is it to good to get rid of?
Huh, I thought 3d printers would be way more expensive
@@SmallMediumFat Do you have a 3d printer or should I ask is a printer coming?
@@PrintedByJohn I haven't purchased one yet because I thought they would be at least 1k or over 🙃 but I might consider buying one in the future
Ooo
I think the tolerance-test-tower broke when flexing the build plate. The remnants of the top of tower could only be there if there was something to print on.
To be fair, that something could simply be spaghetti from the parts around it. It's often enough to start printing a failed overhang or even a separate part again despite everything.
@@EgorKaskader I would think he would have mentioned the spaghetti or we would have seen it.
@@xsvforce3335I think "it failed" counts as mentioning it, shorts don't have enough time to go into every detail
When he breaks it off the plate you can see the towers that are missing snapped off
There are parts of the print that would’ve had to be printed in mid air for it to have been a failed print
That torture toaster was made by clocks spring……dudes a genius
It’s called a torture test for a reason lol it tests everything at once because it’s suppose to be hard on your printer lol
Similar to torture testing a computer
Why use lol twice
@@fabo-desu lol they were probably in the zone lolol
@@554drago wtf is lolol. Ok my first language isn’t English, so lol here lmao there just doesn’t make any sense to me. That or I’m just dumb.
@@fabo-desu"lol" is supposed to mean "laughing out loud" but it's used for expressing different things now
I think this is better than testing one thing at a time because when you're printing something that has those kinds of parts and features, you're going to want it to be able to meet all of those specs at the same time. You can't print it right and then go back and print the rest of it with overhangs. Either it can do both or it can't
I was about to say this exact thing
Remember when i first got my printer, this was one of the first models I printed the first day I set it up. Took 35 hours and ran out of filament because I used the tiny spool that came with the printer, so it was also my first multi color print. Not only did it test the printer, it also tested my patience 😂
I think that the torture toaster is a good general test to see what might need to be tested with a more specific test, or to be something to keep in mind
Benchy does the same thing faster and with less chance of complete failure telling you nothing at all. But like you said, you really need more targeted tests to go beyond “there might be a problem”
@@heyspookyboogie644I love it when my benchy tests the tolerance on my printer
0.5 is larger (more loose tolerence).
There is 0.5 mm of play which is 5 times more loose then 0.1 mm, which is tighter.
He meant 0.05
@@duhsq no he didn't, it says 0.5 on the coin which goes from 3.0 to 0.5
0.5 mm is bigger than 0.1 mm, so yea no shit it handled it fine
Was just about to say the same.
its actually 0.05 he just said it worng but you can see on the coin
@@fabiofanf3e813 didn’t say that to me
@@fabiofanf3e813 it says 0.5 on there but yeah that's the lowest on the coin. it goes from 3.0 to 0.5
@@yoeriw7099there is no point on 05, but its confusing bc on the 3.0 and 1.0 is a point. So mayby its a printing mistake
.1 is smaller then .5
That was my thought
Fr lmao
Than
He said .05 I believe
@malta7406 wym you believe? The video is right there you can just watch it lol he says 0.5
I don't understand your criticism of "it tests too many things".
Each test is self-contained, as long as it can fit on the print bed, it can test as many things as it wants.
💯%! The dude sounded like a straight up hater clown with that statement 😂
This is by far one of the best tests a 3D printer can perform.
He meant that because it tests so many things the total print time is very long. So if one fails, it’s a big effort to do iterative tests.
I think it's a better one than the short ones, because how well your printer works off the print bed is really important if you're making anything with vertical height, and the length of time is good check for overheating issues and such before a large print
The coin tolerance test looks so fraudulent haha, the result from the torture toaster seems much more accurate. There's absolutely no way that the 0.05 has THAT much play, it should be super tight in there.
What kind of 3d printer produced 0.05 tolerance!?
Still tough 0.5 should be pretty tight you're right
In the video he said 0.5 not .05. Even with that it still doesn't make sense because obviously .1 is tighter than .5... So of course it could fail at .1....
@@RedEp1taph He misspoke in this video. That IS supposed to be 0.05mm, and you can see for yourself in the short just before this one on his channel where he shows it. Also wtf is he talking about when he says "the torture toaster tests too many things at once." Thats the whole point of the toaster. Like, okay bro if you get a nice print in place mechanism that has tight tolerances and overhangs you're just not gonna print it since you can't achieve both tolerance and overhangs???
@@jxdinglol No he didn't you can see the imprint on the plastic "0.5"
@@Khaynizzle7 Yeah and by that logic the number next to it would be 3.0, which is ridiculous. A 3.0mm gap would make the piece fall out.
I still can't believe it just prints like that. At first I thought you had to print all the parts then assemble.
*This is one of my first tests on the Prusa MK3, with 0.4mm nozzle and PLA. Came out absolutely perfectly. **_Happy Printing!_*
I watched this whole video with not a single clue as to what was happening the entire time. And I'm gonna watch it again.
Isn’t 0.5 bigger than 0.1? So that makes sense
0.05
@@duhsqthat’s not right. it’s not testing a gap that small.
@@duhsq he literally said "zero point five"
I think it’s a good baseline test. Like others have stated it tests everything. If there’s a certain aspect that failed, you could probably find a specific test for that to see if it was a failure if the previous test, or your machine.
Wouldn't vertical and horizontal tolerance be different?
I don't know anything about 3D printing but the little pink toaster with gears looks cute!
I'd say the tolarance has something to do with vertical and horizontal printing (but that's just my guesse, I don't own a 3d printer)
it does, but the thing with tolerance tests is you can just change your extrusion multiplier and make it looser
Yes it is a good test because it tests a lot of different things, one thing that is not so good about it is that its hard to see underline issues as it only mostly test clearances and overhang.
“Bright pink with a little bit of blue”
WHAT!!? That’s just pink
i think it is a good test. a good filament needs to pass every test every time without fail, no matter how challenging the print may be
It certainly is a good tester. Thanks for developing these tests.
I'd rather have multiple things tested at once because I use multiple functions of the printer on any one design. I rarely have a design that only needs good tolerance of one kind
All i know is, i shoulda got into 3d printing like my teacher wanted me to get into in highschool 😩 this is some really cool stuff here
I dont know anything about 3d printing, but I love this toaster.
Never knew about 3D printer tolerance tests - cool!!
well the test is great for a quick general overview, what it’s made for
That’s actually pretty creative
its probably good, but if there's any issues, such as the fusion there, i'd say print something else specifically meant to test that from your printer. the toaster shows you some things that might be of issue and allows you to zero in on things to see how far they can go
I do like the torture toaster because it's more like a real print. It may fail a tolerance test that a tolerance coin would have passed. It's not for tuning one thing, for me it's to show what sort of results you might get on a real print.
the k1's Precision Is incredible
Keep the toaster! ❤
That is awesome! Love the color
Bruh you know 0.5 is bigger than .1 no?
I think he meant .05 but maybe not because that would be tiny
@@RightSideRising ain't no way that would work lol 3d printers are generally not anywhere near that accurate I think he meant up instead of down
@@RightSideRising nah the coin says 0.5 as well
For me it was the update that helped didnt play on my xbox s x with my headset for years
This seems like an infinitely better test than a benchy lol
A test needs at least 10 prints and even then its not really statistically relevant. So whatever works and can print the most tests with the least filament is best. Speed of printing is secondary in this use.
“My torture test tested too many things at once” isn’t that the point of a torture test Lmao it’s supposed to be overkill 😂
A large part of my job is testing 3d printers this would be so cool
Totally no bias but the toaster is cool
Haha it is pretty cool, for a toaster...
I believe the "purpose" is actually to be a test all, if you're needing to do "all the things at the same time then that's the test you'd want to do. If you're specifically trying for tolerance then the tolerance disc would be fine
Torture toaster is good for a final benchmark so you can show it off, NOT for diagnosing problems. It's a cute desk toy with stats for nerds.
that's a really nice model for fidgeting
A resin printer would toast any competitor.
k-1 is a good printer, but problems may start after the 24th marathon. the probability of failure of the temperature sensor is about 40%, problems with supply, the thermal barrier of the boiler during prolonged heating but lets through plastic, the plastic sensor fails in 10% of printers and a lot of small problems, we have k-1 in our company that just came out and I VERY VERY hope that they fixed critical issues
Helps yes, that's a great test!
If a k1 does 5 hours for this print, I will keep doing benchy’s on my Ender 3
I personally think the Benchy is a better quick test!
those sanps were satisfiying
Bro you mad over 5 hours 😂😂😂 i had to reprint stuff that last 16-48 hours and some times i waste an entire 2.2 spool messing around
This feels like the set up to the intro to a infomercial but I have nothing to compare this comment to since I am putting babies first printer together as I type this.
I feel this. I print rc planes on an ender 3 V2, 22 hours for a fuselage is a fairly normal print time to me know🤣
Pls get a company that 3D prints to print one of these it would be really interesting
Idk anything about printing but it's cool!
That's so cool 😭 It looks like a Barbie toaster, or "torture toaster" 😭
I'm confused. The tolerance coin was successful down to only 0.5, but the toaster was successful down to 0.2.
That seems right.
5 hour for tinny tiny toaster (TTT). That's pretty much the same amount of time I printed my Vegita's bust model about 6.5cm tall. 3D printing is fun but you gotta have immeasurable patience.
In Guantanamo, its just a regular toaster.
Anything is cooler than that little boat people keep making ...
the blue looks exactly like my dad
bisexual torture toaster
yes
yes
no
Torture toaster is brilliant
You know 0.5 is larger than 0.1, right? Surely that 0.1 didn't work is a sign the tolerance test works.
"I don't like the result so the test must be wrong" lol
As a one time print it's fine. But you really want a print to test one thing and be small. That way it's fast to print and wastes as little filament as possible. Perhaps after you have it fully adjusted, print the toaster to test everything at once.
Hadn't thought of that. However, I will now drill this method before my next toaster FOR SURE! Thank you, Fellow YouTubian.
when a print fails for the fifth time I'm gonna threaten to do this to it
So it turns out 0.2 is the new minimum here.
Today is the torture toasture time!
I came here looking to see some toast beg for mercy. Shenanigans!
I like the Torture Toaster but it takes a long time to print and uses a ton of filament.
Two things I've noticed about a majority of 3d printing videos/shorts is: they're almost always torture test videos(benchy, toaster, coin) or they're recycling waste from said tests. It gives people just casually watching the impression these things make junk most of the time and the videos rarely showcase anything neat/useful.
.05mm*
Love that green hexagon thing. Got a link to the model?
The toaster test is better than a single tolerance test. Just because you can have low tolerance on something literally made for that test, doesn't mean you can actually use that low of a tolerance for something practical
I would say it is a "fun" test for your printer. But there are better and more accurate tests that don't take as long between adjustments.
So true!
It’s fun to play with👍
I call a torture toaster Tuesday
I think it’s a 9.5/10 due to one of the tolerance towers breaking
This is cool, so id say yes
Yes I think it is a good test
It’s weird the antennas were dropping pretty quickly. I feel like it should definitely be connecting better. I think I flew that far on the first iteration of the HDZero Whoop vtx.
For everyone who is saying "0.5 is bigger than 0.1", if you look up the model he printed on Thingiverse "Tolerance Coin", it says in the description all of the values are 1/100mm. So apparently that is 0.05mm.
Couple of things: 1) The transition PLA is probably a lot like "silk" PLAs in that the current/stock hotend needs a slower print speed for better control of the depositing filament. I dunno why it is this way; I'm sure one of my cloned selves can spend their week/month exploring the reason. I don't have the time, though.
2) Five hours? May I ask what slicer and settings you used, please? I'm running mine now and Orca is saying 7.5 hours. Thank you.
What do you do with you projects that misprint, don’t work, or are just not worth keeping?
“Creality” sounds like an MK finisher lol
What print speed did you have it?
Outer Wall: 200mm/s
Inner Wall: 300mm/s
Infill: 300mm/s
Travel Speed: 500mm/s
@@JJShankles wtf? Isn't it normal to have it for example at 30mm/s the outer wall? That's ridiculus speed
@@nombre652 normally yes (around 60mm/s), but that's what makes this printer so special
@@JJShankles holy crap
Any tips on printing with abs on the k1? I'm getting a lot of warping no matter what I try. Thanks 😊
I haven't had issues when using the ABS profile, and a little bit of glue stick helps a lot for me with difficult filaments
Its a good allaround test but definitely u should do separate tests for everyting on their own because as u said it doesnt always work in every way.
Yes its an end result test of individual testing of each tolerance. Gears, over hang, joint, internal parts.
Yes
I like the fact how of the first tokerance test for opening the toster fails you are suddently not worthy enough to see the other results XD
The toaster is a more accurate test, if you are printing a complex model you'd find your print fused at 0.1 and that is much more valuable than how small can you get on a testing coin.
That's magenta, light pink with a little bit of blue is magenta
I can't believe how many people have successfully figured out 5 is a larger number than 1😂
Hey @JJ Shankles what 3D printer do you recommend for beginners?
His other videos usually have a comment saying recommend printer...I'll try to find the links
Edit: if you go back to the speed test video a couple videos back he states his favorite beginner printer and favorite mid size printer
My favorite cheap beginner printer is the Kingroon KP3S Pro: amzn.to/40NWmg5
It is cheap and can easily be upgraded to learn more about printing.
For a little bit more the Longer LK4X: amzn.to/3Eq9KNa
This one has some nice upgrades and features for not much more money, but it isn't a super fast printer.
For a high end printer the Creality K1 is really great machine at an impressive price: store.creality.com/products/k1-speedy-3d-printer?aid=JJ
@@JJShankles thank you so much!
We should all call this toaster TTT because you know
Have you done this with a FlashForge Adventurer 5M?
Yes ❤
I wish I could torture test my 3D printer, but then I remember it is unable to print in 17 pieces
misheard "it comes off the build plate easily, and the gears move sleazily"
Tests depend on requirements, so it might be a good test