Orange Rocker 15 and Brent Hinds Terror - What's the Difference?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Orange just released two amps that look pretty much identical... so what is the difference? Let's find out!
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I’m still waiting for a Matt Pike signature amp
That's where you make a mountain out of all available Orange amps and turn them up full :D
Matamp GT120 MV is the closest you’re going to get for a while
Or some Laney in a basement somewhere
@@notryan1502 The first video I found about the amp was by a dude wearing a Sleep cap. Immediately knew I found the right one. :D
Yes
Actually surprised there isnt one
10/10 for room mic!
In the higher gain settings, the BH sounds more open, less compressed, which I like. I expected to like the Rocker 15 more. As long as the cleans are the same, I think the BH sounds marginally better.
Surprisingly the BH inspired by marshall JCM 800-ish tone
I just bought the Brent Hinds Terror and I love it! Pretty damn mean and clean in my opinion
The Rocker 15 can get into the metal territory if it's pushed hard enough. Both great affordable amps will probably work great in a mix with the right settings and whatnot.
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Great caparison! I have a Brent Hinds incoming. After Watching your video I'm very confident I made the right choice.
Sounds like the BH version has more presence built in. Will probably work very well in the mix if you're playing loud rock music (like Mastodon). I like it!
I think the Brent Hindes Terror sounded a little better and more like a big amp somehow. I really like it.
My favorite voiced Orange amp is the OR50 though.
Another great video. And we do appreciate the room mics and attention to detail you put in to these.
Thank you
Can we get a jim root terror vs Brent hinds also?
that exacly what i want :D
Jim root is way nastier, different tubes and higher gain
it's essentially JCM800 vs Rockerverb at that point
The exact question i had rolling around in my head since the Rocker 15 was introduced. TY.
No better way to say FU to the customer than not including a simple one button footswitch with your 2-channel amp.
I can tell the difference, one clearly smells of peaches. The other of forest pine. Am I right?
Might be. I would say B.H. Terror has a more saturated low-end.
I have the Brent Hinds Terror(With Nos Telefunken EL84’s, and assorted preamp tubes) and I just ordered a Rocker 15 Terror as well...I play a stereo setup with an Xotic Stereo X Blender...That switching pedal allows me to run 3 amps at the same time! The 3rd output is an always on affair, while the left and right channels are controlled by stomp switches...So I can either use it as an a b type affair, or do an a b y setup with both amps running at the same time! This is why I’m really excited to get the Rocker 15 Terror...Though the differences may be small, when you put them both together, the different nuances of the two amps will blend and create a “whole is greater than the sum of it parts” type of deal!
I actually had a Wildwood Custom Friedman Pink Taco as my second of 3 amps(using a Tube modded Marshall tsl60 for my 3rd amp) The Friedman was an absolute beast, a True Tone monster... Only problem was that it was a single channel amp...So the cleans were very compromised:/ If I was always just jamming out with amp distortion all day, I most definitely would have kept the Friedman...But I really need a true clean channel, as I use a lot of fuzz, distortion and od/distortion pedals, and the Friedman just didn’t sound right when using them...I was actually blown away by the one knob clean channel on the Hinds, to my ears, it’s voiced perfectly!!(I have all my guitars modified with mostly SD Custom Shop pickups, and Klein’s for my G&L Legacy Strat and for the Fender Tele(Epic Esquire Bridge and “Early 50’s Neck” neck pickups...Both are Alnico 3 and around 7.6-7.7 k... So they are rock and Heavy Blues Tele pickups! Not country twang crap...I respect country and their playing, but I just hate the “twang,” no offense meant to country lovers, it’s just a personal preference kinda thing!)Sorry to go off on a tangent, but the point is that great pickups will bring great tone! You truly get what you give! Don’t have any stock or “low quality” pickups anymore, but if you have a problem with the Hinds clean channel, my bet would be with the pickups or the harness...Les Pauls, Tele’, Strats, p90s(both vintage from my 58 LP Special and from a Fano Alt DeFacto ML6 all sound amazing! Even a G&L Tribute Jerry Cantrell Rampage sounds like a beast since I had a Custom Shop JB made...Lol it’s my “Metal” Guitar!) I cant wait for the Rocker 15 Terror to arrive...I’ve got a bunch of nos tubes to try out to find the right balance of in your face distortion and also clarity in said distortion...That’s what’s been impressive, high gain without turning into mud!! I don’t think you can go wrong with either, on the contrary, I think that both are needed to be joined together to make one epic soundscape!! I’ll definitely be posting vids when I get them together!(already have vids of the Hinds, and the departed Friedman!) I can hardly contain myself in anticipation of the Rocker 15 Terror arriving!! Oh btw, I found the Hinds Seemed to pair better with a Celestion Gold Alnico, Hoping the 15 Terror will be good with the Jensen Jet Tornado Stealth 65 in the other 1x12 cab I’m using...May switch it out with either the Fane F70 or Celestion Vintage 30 I have in the 2x12 cab I use for the Marshall...Anyways, great review! Definitely nothing to dissuade me from either amp, I think they both sound great with their slightly different voicings!
A clean boost tightens the bottom end of the Rocker right up, opens up the sound so it’s closer to the Hinds, but doesn’t sound quite as harsh.
Orange Crush Pro CR120 Head review please. This underrated amp needs the Henning touch.
second that
How do these amps sound compared to the Tremonti MT15?
Rocker sounded slightly brighter on the clean channel
Having tried both in a music shop, I'd say the natural channel on the Rocker 15 sounds more crisp, bright and defined, while on the dirty channel, the Brent Hinds sounds more defined. The Brent Hinds has a savage gain, albeit within a rather short range.
I wonder how much would including a foot switch hike up the price? When Orange puts two or more channels on an amp and not include the foot switch, I don't think "they are cost conscious", I think "they are greedy bastards targeting cheap bastards".
I ve played both and the Brent Hinds sounded much brighter ,to bright for my ear .Maybe he’s lost some highs from ear bashing .Anyway went with the rocker 15 . This was a great review btw , thank you .
Man, do a comparison between the Jim Root Terror vs. Brent Hinds Terror? I'm looking for one of them! :D
I know this is a 3 year old video but the loudness was so different on both amps. Were you sure you had the switches on the back set to the same setting as well?
The headroom/bedroom switch is what really changes the volume. This is coming from someone that owns the Bret Hinds.
Everybody wanted to know and listen that. You nailled it! Tks
4:45 the difference in bass response was clearly audible, even through RUclips compression. Not your imagination.
The Brent Hind's amp sounds like my fulltone OCD through a clean channel. That's a complement! Love the ocd, therefore love this amp.
I prefer the BH myself, which, knowing my ear, probably means the Rocker is better for the way I actually play. But the BH I would consider buying if/when I buy an amp in the future.
Henning, could you do an a/b/c comparison of the rocker terror/BH terror/OR15?
I got the Bhinds Orange. It is fantastic. I want the rocker 30 soooo bad for some more headroom on the cleans for playing with a drummer.
It's like comparing the Jim Root to the Dark Terrorist, same, but different.Again, the Jim Root had less gain and more highs and mids and was more in your face with that gritty rock sound. It appears the Hinds terror is voiced along the same lines and in my less than humble opinion would actually make a much better professional amp for recording and gigging. Not to say that the Rocker 15 lacks in any way, but it suits my needs and tastes much Mo' betta. I have the Rocker 32 and use it as a head going into a PP212 and a Blackstar mk2 212 for stereo without those lame assed Orange speakers. Great review, as usual :)
As much as I like the Brent Hinds, I would probably get the Rocker. I like running fuzz pedals through a slightly dirty channel. It seems it would be hard to get that from the Hinds model.
Nice work on this video! Obviously a different gain structure. Have you ever thought that quite possibly the only difference on these signature orange heads is the gain structure?
Loving the orange terror heads! Was lucky enough to pick up a mint condition Tiny terror a year ago! Btw love the vids & binge watched all the orange vids last year! 😁
The rocker 15 head is more my thing. Excellent demo :)
What I found from the "everything to 12 o' clock" comparison is that the Brent Hinds has a little bit more low end and more mid-presence while the Rocker 15 has a little bit less gain and more dynamic clarity. The Rocker 15 is more true to the original Tiny Terror with a slight bias mod, while the Brent Hinds is more related to the Rocker 30.
Rocker 15 terror and Victory VX Kraken in stereo is pretty much my ultimate metal setup. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The Orange or15 has the save
Same board as the Brent Hinds so maybe compare those as well !
I was sold on the Rocker 15 for sure.. Until I watched this. Now I'm thinking the BH will compliment my Orange Vintage 30 cab better. Fuck.
I was totally not sold on the Brent Hinds, until I saw this. I have a hand-made cab with a Heritage 30 in it, and I am thinking the Hinds will kill through it.
Would love to see comparison of Joyo Meteor against Orange Rocker. I have a Meteor and love it. People say that its closer to a Rockerverb than the Terror.
Brent Hinds Terror sound more "Marshall", more clarity on mid. and higt freq. but you can easily change the eq with the pot or with some OD pedal...they are basically the same! Same price, same features, same valves...I choose Brent Hinds Terror only because it's....SAVAGE! Honestly I don't give a shit because I already have a Dark Terror so...in my opinion best Terror version EVER!
mercuryfaith hinds is slightly dearer I thought
Hi Dude, I have as well DT but lack crunch and clean channel (good for pedals). To manage with it, I thought about getting R15 or BH and inserting DT pre-amp into theirs effects loop as third channel using A/B switch. Have you thought or tried something like this?
Yes, the Dark Terror has the gain going to the proverbial '11' that the Rocker 15 Terror or Brent Hinds Terror can't get.
skilak13 too bad the DT doesnt have two channels, for the videos i do think i prefer the dt distortion, but i think the rocker 15 dirt channel alone is more versatile than the dt
My opinion the Rocker is the better rock amp for me...I’d like to see you compare the Rocker 15 Terror and the Dark Terror and the Jim Root Dark Terror!! I have the OR15H and the Rockerverb 100 MK III I love them both far more than my Marshall 100 watt head!! Like to see the terror’s compared!!? Thanks nice job!! 🙏👍🏻🤘🏻
Great review, thanks !
I have the original rocker 30,the natural channel has one stage of gain,power amp distortion only,no eq.
This makes an awesome pedal platform,I'm assuming the same would apply to these rocker 15's.
Pedal demo into the natural channel would be great.
Man that framus looks like a beast of a guitar
Just on an initial listen, I would think the rocker 15 high gain tones would sit back more in any mix, live or recording, and would possibly need more eq to stand out. The Brent hinds maybe has a little more clarity at the higher gain settings. Both sound great though.
I can sense more mids in the BH. Bark. The Rocker 15 is a little more Fendery when clean.
Thank you so very much for this
Dang it, I think I ordered the wrong one. Other “difference” videos failed to pull out much noticeable difference. Wow, the Creamback cab sounds way better than the V30s too.
Man the difference is so small in person you’ll be stoked for the one you bought. No worries
I am usually not an animal guy, but that little kitty is just adorable...
it almost sounds like you had the Bedroom switch on for the Rocker 15 Terror.
Rocker has better tone imho. Excellent with vintage30
I like the Brent Heinz, but the “normal” Terror-Rocker is awesome as well - isn’t it?
Would be great to watch a CR120H review!
...by the way 😬
Rocker is classic Orange, BH's is more Marshall sounding to me.
Classic rock: Rocker 15 - Modern rock: Brent Hinds.
Great work always enjoy your videos what do you think of Laney amps
IMHO the rocker seems warmer on the dirt channel. Almost no difference in the clean, as HP said...a bit more low end.
I prefer the Rocker...
Anyone who knows how it behave with fuzzes and muffs?
Very useful comparison, thanks for posting. Seeing as you‘ve also demoed the Getaway driver pedal, how similar to those two is it? I‘m asking because I‘ll be buying a „British-but-rather-Marshall-than-Vox voiced“ 15-30 watts amp in the next months, and I‘m thinking of going Victory V40 plus pedals instead of the usual suspects (Mini Jubilee, Vic V22, Laney VC30, Reußenzehn EL34, R15T, BHT, possibly the new Origin 20).
the V40 is really not a british voiced amp if you ask me... good amp, but not british
EytschPi42 Hmmm yeeeah, somewhat, it‘s not difficult to get it to sound like the more sophisticated cousin of a JTM45, but it certainly doesn‘t do 1959SL or 2203 grit & bite. It‘s a good „pedal amp“ in any case, and I‘d run it with, say, a Super Crunch Box for (souped-up) Plexi/JCM800 kinda sounds and a Getaway Driver for those goopy, slighty-low-end fuzzy Orange tones.
would you consider reviewing the Orange CR 120?
The Rocker 15 has a bit less bass on the cleans. The BH is fatter for sure, even with the OD. Both sound great.
On the overdrive channel, there is no contest, for me. The Brent Hinds, easily. The R15 sounds tighter and smaller..more compressed on all examples. The Bren Hinds Terror is just much more interesting, to me.
Can I get the clean of the rocker and the distortion of Bh? Lol .. bh sounds very marshally voiced, and I already have a dsl so it seems like rocker it is
the clean channels are exactly the same circuit wise sooooo
@@TinkerToneworks yes, but clearly one is chimier than the other one
@@antonioalbares that's probably down to individual componential tolerances between units
@@TinkerToneworks so you sent me on a rabit hole and I found a video where they explain they made the clean channel brighter based on consumers feedback from previous amps.
I'd love to see you review the Harley Benton Mighty-5TH - i know you're friends with the Thomann guy, so maybe that can be arranged? Anyway - nice job as always!
it already arrived
Damn! You're too fast for me. Awesome!
I love the sound of the Rocker. The Brent Hinds is not my thing though.
Any idea if this can do a reasonably good ambient clean? Obviously with verb and delay. I love the tone of Orange gain, and I am so stoked that there is finally a 2-channel Orange that I can almost afford.
yes.. I think it can do that nicely
Wow, thanks Henning! I am a big fan, and t's awesome to get a response from you! :)
You're HILARIOUS!!
Do you think the B. Hinds would pair with my Evh stealth? I have the evh 4x12
Aby pedal, I want an Orange amp, but they all sound so good
Yes that would sound killer!
The volumes and gain knobs are not matching. The rocker gain and volume was turned down by a significant amount. Absolute fail to compare equally that way.
The OR 15 demolishes both of these amps. The only drawback is lack of channel switching.
I Love Brents ...
Prefer the cleans on the Rocker but the dirty channel on the B Hinds. Now, do I need versatility over the amount of gain enough to give up that JMP tone?
Kyle but the cleans are the same
Hey.. .I know it is not part of this video.. but you still keeping that Revv 100P?
it is MINE
I bet he licked it.
That's what she said!!!
#HP42
Orange Jim Root vs. Orange Brent Hinds pla
The Brent Hinds makes the regular Rocker sound like a toy when it comes to the gain channel. I love how open the Brent Hinds sounds.
Jesse Kerley not really it just barks more but it just a matter of taste, i prefer the rocker 15 but i was about to get the bhinds today but they went out of stock in minutes :(
Would be interesting if to know what type of Tubes are used in both of these amps ?
motorrebell 3 ECC83, 1 ECC81. Same in both
And a pair of EL84 of course
jim root vs brent hinds PLEASE
Grammar/Knowledge=Who/What/Where/When=Logic/Understanding=Why=Rhetoric/Wisdom=How.
change 3 capacitors values and turn one into the other :D gotta love marketing! Gonna keep my OR50 :D
This is kinda modern vs vintage as tones go
Brent!
No NAMM videos this year?
Room mic,awesome,that's how it's going to sound at home for most!
Henning. May I borrow Your Orange ? I’ll be close by. Sort Of. End of February I’ll be in Switzerland(French part). I’ll return it before I go back to Canada......trust me😁
Orange th series review please!!!
Outro tune?
bh reminds me of a thunderverb vibe…
it's supposed to be a JCM800 inspired preamp section with a very much Orange power section
How many more Orange videos are you gonna make?
As many as it takes. I still need to see a Orange Crush Pro CR120 video.
I own a CR120 and man it sounds good
What do you do for a living? How many more times do you plan to do that? WTF?
eytsh pi42 you looks like inspector from COBRA movie... :)
Or a fancier Freddie K before the owen ? :)
Brent hinds definitely sounded darker
Brent's sounds crispier to me...
Thumbs just because of the Kitty
be great if you showed them through say three or four diff speakers alnico creamback green and v30
sure it would be great, but who goes through that in a demo/review? Who has that setup?
we go through that with you, and bruno, and you owe it to yourself to own those speakers, tart :) sell some guitars buy the speakers x
Ah, it's that Music Man Majesty that I thought was a Fibenare .oops Nice guitars.
Do I care? No...but I do appreciate the "In the room" sound, because Im a bedroom player, so is what ill be playing, Im not a studio player
this dude sounds like klaus from american dad
bret's is darker sounding
there's deff a difference lol
Rocker: mush fizz
Brent: barky mush fizz
30 seconds in and i am confused as hell ... i'm outtie ✌
Let's face it, they are absolutely Identical. Anyone who hears a difference is kidding themselves.
Same damn amp...
Gain stages are completely different. They are not the same amp.
You didn’t watch the video...
I couldn't hear a damn difference...
Mister Knight Owl you didn’t hear the difference in the dirty channel? If not then it’s simple, the amp isn’t for you is all.
I agree. I'm sure it's quality stuff for those who use it, but at a certain point distortion just turns into white noise in my ears and I can't hear a difference, lol.
After hearing this I can't see why anyone would want an Orange amp.
Alex Breyer could say that about anything you simply don’t like...