Guys, if you're still fiending for more build content, our mortal enemy Charles the Humble Mechanic has his video right here, and it's honestly a doozy: ruclips.net/video/EvujdAEbe2g/видео.html
these budget challenges will _always_ be more fun to me than "expensive fast car goes fast and nothing goes wrong whatsoever; remember to like and subscribe!"
You guys are becoming my favorite automotive channel. The content this channel puts out is based, self-aware, and free from hype bs. 2 Bens and SavageGeese are the trifecta of beautiful automotive cinematography. I love it!
Wife Ben comes in and says “Honey I’m home, ohh Ben is that a Fawken turbo our Camaro?” Hubby Ben replied right away “I thought u weren’t supposed to be her until Friday?” Wife Ben repeats herself “Ben Did u turbo our Camaro” to confirm Hubby Ben justifies purchase “It was only $370 and it makes 600 puppies” Wife Ben “600! I love u Ben let me see under your hood” ❤
Ben, after working on an LS Engine do you have a new found respect for their simplicity, reliability, and their ability to make a shit ton of power? Hey this might be a bit hard considering the distance, but what about a 3 way(or 4/5 way if That Dude in Blue or Engineering Explained wanted in)competition like this with Dustin? LOL Ben, Minutes 6:30-6:38 when you were handling the exhaust pieces in the background while he was talking was hilarious. You had that confused look on your face like "WTF Is This And What Do I Do With It?" 😆
Definitely get some subframe connectors on that fbody. The t-top cars flex a lot more over the hard top versions. They're pretty cheap and really make the cars feel 10x more planted. Oh and you can box in those rear lower control arms and panhard bar with some steel plates for cheap traction improvements. Love fbody cars. Haha
the biggest compliment I can give is this is my favorite series you guys have done so far, even if it's about a catfish camaro. i love the editing, the acting, and music in this video. really well done video
tall ben is a diabetic! i saw his dexcom sensor on his arm when he was fixing the broken manifold studs! my wife uses dexcom with her t-slim insulin pump. badass hardware, and costs more than the CamEro did!
You guys can hate and trash talk on the "Camarah" but first of all modern American muscle on a budget gives you two choices. 5.0 Mustang or 93-02 LT/LS Camaro. The choice was a good one 👍. Second of all you gained a new subscriber 🤘
Ben, your content is so good. I’ve been following since your build thread on one of the zx2 forums back in the day (I was in high school so roughly 10 years ago, not sure how old you are) but love to see how far you and the channel have come! Keep it coming!
In the future, save a bunch of time and drill bits by welding nuts to broken studs or bolts. The heat from welding helps to loosen them, and you get to use a wrench to spin them out.
This build reminds me of every shitbox my friends and I put together back in highschool. Doesn't fit? Hammer it! Shitty pipe cut? Weld enough to hold it!
You know you can delete this rust and gunk from bottom of the car and its parts by just using dry ice blasting? It will be new as from factory I get that from Sarah-n-Tuned.
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No back purging huh. Lol this won’t last long for sure. I know Engine Masters showed dented headers don’t make a huge difference, but that looks like a lot of flattening. 4+4+4+4=16 diameter with 4x4=16 area, but 7+1+7+1=16 diameter yet only 7x1=7 area, so you can lose a lot smashing the pipe.
just out of curiosity, what made a turbo the choice over something like a supercharger? I'd imagine a supercharger being cheaper to put on and having better throttle response then a massive turbo which would in theory help for the autocross events and off the line for the drag race.
As a 4th Gen F-Body owner this is extremely satisfying to watch them tear out the interior and find their car has all the well known 4th Gen issues minus the window motors 😂
I like seeing how you involve others in your build. I never know how to effectively break up the work. Looks like you got "the turbo guy", "the muscle", etc
Being an electrician in the Nuclear, Industrial and Commercial industry, Electricity costs are going to go through the roof by 2035. This hard push to all electric is not good
@@HennyManTactics I mean, 99% of people just use their car as an appliance. For those people an electric car would be better. As for the enthusiasts, if people can drive around 100 year old Model Ts today with the aftermarket support the platform receives, I don't see why the interesting cars of today shouldn't get the same treatment.
If you want this thing to handle, make sure you get - 1.8" lowering springs all around ($240) - BillStein or KYB shocks ($400) - same size wheels & tires upfront as the back - Strut tower brace and swaybar ~$300 Shouldn't cost more than $1000 altogether.
8:05 MAAAANNN Y'ALL WENT WAAYY TOO HARDFIXING THOSE STUDS........ they are still protruding above the flange........ weld a nut or nut and washer to said protrusion....... if necessary use oxy-acetylene torch to heat flange, wile everything's still hot AND HAVE ALL YOUR TOOLS READY/HANDY impact that shit off within seconds....THREAD IN NEW BOLTS/STUDS ECT........ no drilling, no tapping no removing the entire manifold with each other fastener at that point being a penitential headache
as a self-proclaimed american muscle fan, i personally wouldve gone with a blower instead of a turbo, but ik you guys are more familiar with turbos, so ill let it slide XD
Definitely going to need to run a relay with that fuel pump that factory wiring is not gonna feed that hellcat pump enough voltage for it to flow the 525lph that its rated for
@@CraaaigV302 - With all due respect, I know what you're talking about better than you do. Yes, the more powerful pump needs a relay. But not because of voltage. I'm not sure if that was a typo, or you don't understand how electricity works.
If this car survives this challenge I'd love to see you turn it into a track car and see how it does. It would be like using a broom stick to paint the Mona Lisa
I know its for a temporary cheap build but I just gotta say it. Need a flex joint or pipe in your exhaust somewhere to prevent cracks from engine movement & expansion and contraction. That's all and again I know its not that serious.
Really glad you guys took the communities advice about getting into fabrication work and being more hands-on with your projects. This is the perfect low stakes build for you to cut your teeth fabricating from scratch. Really excited to see your skills develop over time. Herd it bowlth Waze.
My jeep recently had oil cooler, transmission leak, and rear caliper eject all while the jeep is a 2020 with less than 34k miles. Took jeep five weeks to repair after fighting me and denying my warranty. "The Jeep Life". Check your bolts.
Hmmm not sure how the Mustang is going to stack up here. To even be kind of close in power they'll need to do Forced injection. That Camaro already probably made 80 more hp than that 4.6, lighter weight, way better trans gearing to boot and a much beefier trans, stiffer frame, better suspension, only thing the Stang has is ground clearance... as someone who owns a S197 Mustang that sounds like it's got some balls I do not mess with similar sounding catfish camaros.. I'd rather just have fun with Hemi Challengers, and I'd love to pick up a clean WS6 one day
Just remember, a Mustang is almost ALWAYS lighter than a Camaro. You have to take that into account. Not sure what year 4.6 you are referencing as it could be a 2 valve or a 3 valve 4.6. If its the 3V then the power is comparable already, if its the 2V then yes its down on power. Now if the other dude comes rolling in with a Coyote swapped Fox or SN95, we know its rigged. He could also be doing the same thing I am, LS turbo swap in a New Edge. I will probably have about 7500 in mine as well. Even after a rebuilt 5.3 and rebuilt 4L80E. Those cars are so cheap now it makes them perfect candidates to be hacked up.
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I came to talk trash, but it looks like you guys have that covered. LOL :P
Talk Trash? "Its a good car!"👍
Oh snap! Hah!
hahah i love when VW guys talk trash on american muscle!!! (just so you know, i daily a mk3 vr6...... haha)
@@craigsawyer6453 LOL I know. I didn't really have much trash to talk HA! Im hyped for the race
@@ghomerhust HAHA All in good fun.. There is something ya gotta love about ripping a burnout or donut!!
the timeline captions are gold, whoever put those in needs a raise
I have my guess on the other asian ben
Glad to know im not the only one who appreciated them too💀💀
I'm happy to see that I wasn't the only one who appreciates it
I couldn't agree more. Its hilarious yet awesome.
It was probably asian Ben 😂😂😂
Guys, if you're still fiending for more build content, our mortal enemy Charles the Humble Mechanic has his video right here, and it's honestly a doozy: ruclips.net/video/EvujdAEbe2g/видео.html
U should have put a flex pipe in between the two banks/ in middle on the crossover pipe by oil pan
Flex pipe @10:35
You should pin this comment to the top so others can see it!
I wanna see more slapped-together builds like this. Feels so much more relatable lol
these budget challenges will _always_ be more fun to me than "expensive fast car goes fast and nothing goes wrong whatsoever; remember to like and subscribe!"
If roadkill can absolutely destroy a 800 buck chrome header and lose no power you're fine😂
I came to the comments to write this exact comment haha
Thinking the exact same thing. Haha.
I was waiting for people to try to say it's going to lose power lol
@@howlingmadmatt nah clearly many of us came here after Motortrend abandoned us and hid behind a paywall
Right? “I’ve seen tests done on this” = I also watch roadkill and engine masters
Bens friend saying “I’m Ben friends I’m here to fix it I guess” was classic 😂
You can't exactly be thrilled about extracting studs tbh
You guys are becoming my favorite automotive channel. The content this channel puts out is based, self-aware, and free from hype bs.
2 Bens and SavageGeese are the trifecta of beautiful automotive cinematography. I love it!
You know what, 1 video a week is plenty.
Good content like this is well worth a weekly wait 👍🏻
The production value of your videos has always punched way above its weight class. Best car channel on youtube right now.
“Work cut out for us…” pure gold 3:19
Ben singlehandedly tig welding an entire turbo setup for an LS is awesome. Y'all are an inspiration!
I forgot Ben could weld. Nice!
🤣
Wife Ben comes in and says “Honey I’m home, ohh Ben is that a Fawken turbo our Camaro?”
Hubby Ben replied right away “I thought u weren’t supposed to be her until Friday?”
Wife Ben repeats herself “Ben Did u turbo our Camaro” to confirm
Hubby Ben justifies purchase “It was only $370 and it makes 600 puppies”
Wife Ben “600! I love u Ben let me see under your hood”
❤
He even lied about how much it cost, just like you'd expect in that situation
geez what even is this
Ben, after working on an LS Engine do you have a new found respect for their simplicity, reliability, and their ability to make a shit ton of power? Hey this might be a bit hard considering the distance, but what about a 3 way(or 4/5 way if That Dude in Blue or Engineering Explained wanted in)competition like this with Dustin?
LOL Ben, Minutes 6:30-6:38 when you were handling the exhaust pieces in the background while he was talking was hilarious. You had that confused look on your face like "WTF Is This And What Do I Do With It?" 😆
Definitely get some subframe connectors on that fbody. The t-top cars flex a lot more over the hard top versions. They're pretty cheap and really make the cars feel 10x more planted. Oh and you can box in those rear lower control arms and panhard bar with some steel plates for cheap traction improvements. Love fbody cars. Haha
the biggest compliment I can give is this is my favorite series you guys have done so far, even if it's about a catfish camaro. i love the editing, the acting, and music in this video. really well done video
@GIVEAWAY-871 shut up
Do you guys need a drill press? I think you guys need a drill press :)
Great work! I can't wait to see how this goes!
LS untested with turbo, I'm with the Euro team on this one.
One thing you get good at in the Midwest is extracting broken exhaust hardware. You need an oxy-acetylene torch boys, it makes all the difference.
I love these "cheap build" competition builds.
SUBSCRIBED!!
Ben is more of a fabricator than I thought.
Remember to put a good filter on turbo because of autocross challenge. A lot of dirt can go inside tubo if u not protect
Hey David, slow and lots of pressure when drilling. Especially on old exhaust
Unpopular opinion but I love the way F-body’s look. Both Camaros and Firebirds of this era.
Hope yall did a hotwire kit for that pump. It needs it for the amperage draw.
Charles fan here… I think the turbo build wins 😭😭😭😭😭😭
You gotta back purge those welds, bro! 😂 #weldporn #internetknowitalls #yourbudgetbuildisntuptomystandards #imcoolerthanyou
Great job on the TIG Torch Ben! Poor Fit up has to be the hardest thing to work around.
I love tall Ben's return.
tall ben is a diabetic! i saw his dexcom sensor on his arm when he was fixing the broken manifold studs! my wife uses dexcom with her t-slim insulin pump. badass hardware, and costs more than the CamEro did!
@@ghomerhust fyi dexcom sensor doesn't always mean diabetic. Some people like to really monitor their glucose levels
"honey I'm home..........did you just turbo our Camaro?!"
Haven’t seen Ben this excited over modifying a car in awhile, probably all the clearance he not use to
You guys can hate and trash talk on the "Camarah" but first of all modern American muscle on a budget gives you two choices. 5.0 Mustang or 93-02 LT/LS Camaro. The choice was a good one 👍. Second of all you gained a new subscriber 🤘
Ben, your content is so good. I’ve been following since your build thread on one of the zx2 forums back in the day (I was in high school so roughly 10 years ago, not sure how old you are) but love to see how far you and the channel have come! Keep it coming!
Cheers David, love seeing another diabetic wrenching on cars ❤️
In the future, save a bunch of time and drill bits by welding nuts to broken studs or bolts. The heat from welding helps to loosen them, and you get to use a wrench to spin them out.
That pun at 3:20... 🤣
This is becoming a very cool and interesting series !
I’m just as shocked as tall Ben is.
Turbo on a GM platform is awesome but I’d still rather have NA.
Any thoughts on this?
NA would have been more expensive especially bigger cubes. They could always have added nitrous for a more cost effective route.
This build reminds me of every shitbox my friends and I put together back in highschool. Doesn't fit? Hammer it! Shitty pipe cut? Weld enough to hold it!
You know you can delete this rust and gunk from bottom of the car and its parts by just using dry ice blasting?
It will be new as from factory
I get that from Sarah-n-Tuned.
It's gonna blow up but sick build so far can't wait to see finished project 🙌
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No back purging huh. Lol this won’t last long for sure.
I know Engine Masters showed dented headers don’t make a huge difference, but that looks like a lot of flattening. 4+4+4+4=16 diameter with 4x4=16 area, but 7+1+7+1=16 diameter yet only 7x1=7 area, so you can lose a lot smashing the pipe.
just out of curiosity, what made a turbo the choice over something like a supercharger?
I'd imagine a supercharger being cheaper to put on and having better throttle response then a massive turbo which would in theory help for the autocross events and off the line for the drag race.
Invest in some of the matco stepped drill bit sets lol. Pricey. But worth it. Lifetime warranty on the larger too 😅
11:00 consider the fact that the motor is going to be torqueing over......make sure there is exhaust clearance for that!!
Asian Ben looks like the gay guy from My lottery Dream Home
As a 4th Gen F-Body owner this is extremely satisfying to watch them tear out the interior and find their car has all the well known 4th Gen issues minus the window motors 😂
For as big as those holes were that boy did a great job ☺️
Heavy on the fab!
Did I miss where Short Ben gained TIG welding skills?? 😄
I like seeing how you involve others in your build. I never know how to effectively break up the work. Looks like you got "the turbo guy", "the muscle", etc
I don’t think he’ll stick with GM since they made the decision to eventually go all electric. Government money makes people do strange things I guess…
All automakers are heading towards majority electric vehicles.
@@PringleSn1ffer sadly
Being an electrician in the Nuclear, Industrial and Commercial industry, Electricity costs are going to go through the roof by 2035. This hard push to all electric is not good
@@HennyManTactics I mean, 99% of people just use their car as an appliance. For those people an electric car would be better. As for the enthusiasts, if people can drive around 100 year old Model Ts today with the aftermarket support the platform receives, I don't see why the interesting cars of today shouldn't get the same treatment.
@@PringleSn1ffer because they aren’t really interesting and idk how a electric car would benefit over a gas car.
Ben's face at 6:38. 😂😂
If you want this thing to handle, make sure you get
- 1.8" lowering springs all around ($240)
- BillStein or KYB shocks ($400)
- same size wheels & tires upfront as the back
- Strut tower brace and swaybar ~$300
Shouldn't cost more than $1000 altogether.
FUN FACT: I WAS IN WISCONSIN WITH MY S2000.
Yea if I had to work on a Camaro, that’s where I would be too.
I'm expecting 10s. I'm also curious to see if the T56 will just blow up.
I've got $10 on that T56 explosioning bigly
10 bolt differential 👋 bonjour 👋
@@XxMusclecarsxX the 10 bolt doesn't last under stock power with the t56 much less a blown one...
Well this escalated quickly! I can’t wait to see the results
That hoodie string dangling over that hand chop saw. GANGSTER.
8:05 MAAAANNN Y'ALL WENT WAAYY TOO HARDFIXING THOSE STUDS........ they are still protruding above the flange........ weld a nut or nut and washer to said protrusion....... if necessary use oxy-acetylene torch to heat flange, wile everything's still hot AND HAVE ALL YOUR TOOLS READY/HANDY impact that shit off within seconds....THREAD IN NEW BOLTS/STUDS ECT........ no drilling, no tapping no removing the entire manifold with each other fastener at that point being a penitential headache
as a self-proclaimed american muscle fan, i personally wouldve gone with a blower instead of a turbo, but ik you guys are more familiar with turbos, so ill let it slide XD
Previous Owner: Now that's one BAD CAR 🤘🏽
Use some oil when you drill through thick metal, it will save you many bits.
Love these challenge episodes between the two channels, both amazing shows, keep up the great work.
great look at the turbo mod - a testament to ls potential #blown
Hopefully you will have tires that can grip the road. Stay safe out there.
I came to this channel strangely through the Cars and Bids Evo video..
I'm bingeing everything! Your build vids are great.
1:00 - Deals Gap hoodie; this man knows what's up.
It would be badass to have the down pipe go to the catback that was on it but I doubt they are going to do that 🤣🤣
Were those prices after the sponsorship reductions? You put a lot more money than 7.5k into this build!
Cheap turbo. Blow your engine, then take the perfectly good turbo and put it on a new engine, and then blow the turbo. Great job!
Please, after this, keep it and make it an autocross car.
Definitely going to need to run a relay with that fuel pump that factory wiring is not gonna feed that hellcat pump enough voltage for it to flow the 525lph that its rated for
The Hellcat doesn't have a 12 volt electrical system?
What does a relay have to do with voltage requirements?
Do your research if you don't know wat im talking about
@@CraaaigV302 - With all due respect, I know what you're talking about better than you do. Yes, the more powerful pump needs a relay. But not because of voltage. I'm not sure if that was a typo, or you don't understand how electricity works.
Lmao ok pal 😂
imo. unless you're making a track dedicated car. any performance mods that remove the AC isnt worth it. but i live in the south lol.
I would have mig welded that piping since its so crude any way.
I wonder if there is a way to make exhaust manifolds front exit to make it easier to turbo… oh yeah, just swap sides.
Love these build off series
If this car survives this challenge I'd love to see you turn it into a track car and see how it does. It would be like using a broom stick to paint the Mona Lisa
13:24 that man has been waiting for that for a lifetime :,)
HES DESCENDANT OF EREN YAEGER 😮
I know its for a temporary cheap build but I just gotta say it. Need a flex joint or pipe in your exhaust somewhere to prevent cracks from engine movement & expansion and contraction. That's all and again I know its not that serious.
G&G is going to see how ez muscle car power is compared to a civic
Turbo LS... They are way underestimating what that turbo could do on that engine lol.
really recommend cobalt drill bits
🔥🔥🔥
I looked up "quick and dirty turbo kit" and this video came up. Excellent work so far! I love it
I love this series! Keep up the challenges with Charles! These are just great!
Dang, you’re going to kill them. They just have a little 2v
Having had experience with RWD in rallyx that turbo is not going to be working in your favor lol.
invest in a a used industrial exhaust bender and just buy tubing....you guys will be soooo much happier....after the learning curve but whatever
I love these build-offs. By far my favorite content that you guys make! can't get enough.
Really glad you guys took the communities advice about getting into fabrication work and being more hands-on with your projects. This is the perfect low stakes build for you to cut your teeth fabricating from scratch. Really excited to see your skills develop over time. Herd it bowlth Waze.
Best cars on the planet!!! Love4th gen camaro's!!
Why is this giving me street outlaws vibes😂
When he came back and you told him it made 600whp immediately turned into Owen Wilson when he said wow
Can't wait to witness the boost just blow out every seal on the motor lol. This is gonna be exciting.
"Gears and Gasoline has posted" best part of my day, every single time.
I'm anxiously waiting for you to meet up with Dan and make a video together
Most jeeps are reliable after swapping all control arms, steering system, ball joints, and driveshafts. Lol!
My jeep recently had oil cooler, transmission leak, and rear caliper eject all while the jeep is a 2020 with less than 34k miles. Took jeep five weeks to repair after fighting me and denying my warranty. "The Jeep Life". Check your bolts.
I HATE welding gaps with tig but great job!
Slams the hood shut and then proceeds to look into the vents and says it still clears!! 🤣
Hmmm not sure how the Mustang is going to stack up here. To even be kind of close in power they'll need to do Forced injection. That Camaro already probably made 80 more hp than that 4.6, lighter weight, way better trans gearing to boot and a much beefier trans, stiffer frame, better suspension, only thing the Stang has is ground clearance... as someone who owns a S197 Mustang that sounds like it's got some balls I do not mess with similar sounding catfish camaros.. I'd rather just have fun with Hemi Challengers, and I'd love to pick up a clean WS6 one day
Just remember, a Mustang is almost ALWAYS lighter than a Camaro. You have to take that into account. Not sure what year 4.6 you are referencing as it could be a 2 valve or a 3 valve 4.6. If its the 3V then the power is comparable already, if its the 2V then yes its down on power. Now if the other dude comes rolling in with a Coyote swapped Fox or SN95, we know its rigged. He could also be doing the same thing I am, LS turbo swap in a New Edge. I will probably have about 7500 in mine as well. Even after a rebuilt 5.3 and rebuilt 4L80E. Those cars are so cheap now it makes them perfect candidates to be hacked up.
Watching Ben hammer the exhaust, I can see game text -1HP