As a mechanic I noticed the shirt and looked for this comment. The engineers at work come to me with questions I rarely go to them. Though there are some very talented ones out there.
no deceptions at all sorry if it seems that way. The increase on PPT/EDC/TDC does not "force" anything, but rather removes limits. CPU will then adjust its performance based on requirements and power/thermal constraints. As it will be pushing much harder - of course it will use much more power, that's the nature of the beast. This video is made to show all different tools used in overclocking the CPU and users can choose what they prefer to do
Just got a 5600x and found this. Have to say, your production looks great! The only thing I could ask for is make the result values on the graphs larger. Hard to see on a mobile device clearly.
Thanks, Matthew! Completely agree about the issue with graphs, on the latest video we tried adjusting them so it's easier to read the text on smaller screens. They are still not 100% to our liking so will be working on improving it. Thank you for your feedback.
The sweet spot for my Ryzen 5950x is 4.8 GHz on all cores @ 1.35V, FCLK = 1800, no SMT reaching max temp of 78 degrees. In Time Spy this achieves 16536 CPU score in the CPU test. I have tested also out of the stock with PBO achieving 14453 CPU score and and OC on all cores up to 4.65 GHz with SMT reaching 83 degrees which achieved 15703 score. Max stable OC was 4.85 but increasing the temp for 5-6 degree, so I decided it is not worth it. Great video and some very useful experience shared in the comments.
Thanks for the video. With my 5600x I already tested two stable approaches in BIOS: - manual overclock - ratio 47x, voltage 1,225V (lowest stable so far) - PBO - PPT+TDC+EDC 200 A (they dont limit anything), PBO Scalar 1x, Curve Optimizer - All cores negative -> 26 (so far the highest stable), Max Boost Clock Override 150 MHz So far similar experience, 60-70C in games, PBO sligthly higher boost (4800Mhz), max auto voltages (1,3) and a bit higher temps. But I like PBO method more since it can lower the volts during idle to 0,88V and does't keep it set .. it it is better I guess (?)
looking good there! It depends what you do, if you are pushing CPU with all core loads then I'd try to get all core OC, if not then PBO probably is better.
@@MrStoffzor improved multi-core performance, better thermals overall. When on auto my 5600x spikes to 1.4v+, and for what? +100mhz extra single core perf? I’d rather have better all core performance
@@ice1602 These spikes are really low amperage, compared to a higher amperage on lower voltages. Exactly the pbo/boost is going to get your the best performance during gaming.
Didn't really learned much of anything new cause been overclocking for awhile now but damn this is a good video for people trying to get into it. Well down.
I spent a week frustratedly trying to OC my 5800X. I started with trying to get my 3600MHZ RAM up to 3800 with 1900 on the Infinity Fabric. This seemed stable & got me an immediate improvement in framerate for Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Next, I moved to trying for a higher all-core clock on the CPU. 4.7GHz with 1.35V was stable in benchmarks, but going up to even 4.75 gave me very inconsistent results, no matter the voltage. Cinebench was fine, but CPU Mark was not. Lastly (or so I thought), I OC'd my EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080. I bumped the memory up +350 & the core +120. That's a clock of just over 2100MHz. Even with the XOC BIOS, this is all it would do. Thermals were not a problem & I put the voltage slider all the way to the right, but it wouldn't go any higher. I found stable results in Heaven, Time Spy & Port Royal. Then I had problems... trying to run games for even a few minutes caused crashes. Putting the PC to sleep once caused my BIOS to reset when I tried to wake it. After days of tweaking, I basically had to take the RAM all the way back to it's XMP setting of 3600 & have ditched the all-core OC for simply using Precision Boost Overdrive. That at least keeps my computer from randomly crashing or going into boot loops. Overall, I'm a bit frustrated that all my experience & all my guide following didn't really get me anything except days of stress & lost sleep. I'd still like to try & tweak a bit further, perhaps when drivers are a bit more mature, but maybe I just don't have great chips for overclocking. I have an overbulit cooling system, so neither my CPU or GPU are particularly constrained by thermals. They just don't seem to OC very far.
welcome to the world of overclocking :) It is not uncommon to spend days or weeks tweaking it just to settle for basic OC. it also seems you may not have had the best of luck in silicone lottery. We were lucky with the 5600x chip as it goes way above expectations. Do read up about PBO version 2, that may be something you could utilize.
Both Intel and Amd dont like people to overclock,so the implemented the so called "Boosting" this end the best enjoy in overclocking that people make in the old day,like with Cyrix chips and Athlon...
Thanks for this video. I recently got myself Asus TUF B450 + 5600X + 32GB Hyper Fury X 3200 XMP + TUF 3070 Gaming OC +AIO cooling and was able to tweak/oc a little bit and ended up with my sweet-spot of x46.5 @ 1.275 all cores boost with ~45-50C idle, ~60C-65C gaming (Cyberpunk2077) and ~70C stress (Cinebench 23 multi-core for 30 minutes); nearly silent desktop when idling or 50-70% CPU/GPU usage. Good for me.
I found this quite useful - I've had a deadlock on my cpu since I setup bios, I was being careful not to overdo it - I discovered my R5 5600x was set to a cap of 4.18GHz and cpu temp is usually quite good, my plan is to raise it to the 4.6GHz max and I didnt know the voltage changes to make that safe change, until....I found this video, so thank you
@@A2KMedia yeah it's good, ryzen master helped me boost without having to restart into bios, it's running without any bottleneck with my 3070 which is running at 2000mhz
Thanks for this video! I gave it a like. The video is not too long, is informative and the production is good. I have the 5950x and I completely agree on the thermal part. It does run hot. I think if you take the cooler off you can actually bake something on it too.
@@A2KMedia i was told to let you guys know his chip fried and he cant get online :( seems nobody told him its not safe to over volt ryzen2 and 3 over 1.4
Dude great stuff. Amazing quality video. How the hell do you only have 2.5k sub? I thought you'd have a few hundred thousands based on the quality. Liked and subbed. btw, what voltage did you use to get to 4.6/4.7 on the 5950x? and what motherboard do you have. My Tomahawk x570 load line calibration goes up to 8 so I just wanna make sure I'm using the same settings. Thanks!!
Thanks, this is really appreciated. The mobo is asus x570 hero 8 wifi, I was able to leave it at 1.35V with LLC set to 3, I think MSI would be 4 or 5, but it really depends on your chip as it could be vastly different performance.
Thanks!! Here is something for Gigabyte users: LOAD-LINE is under CPU/VRM Setting which locates at the bottom of the "tweak" menu, and I set it to "turbo". I am a heavy simulation user, so I would die for more all-core performance. A 5950X with 4.7GHz, 1.4V, Corsair 240 mm aio at 100% fan speed achieves an R20 score of 12200 while reaching 92C. That is obviously too loud and hot, so I change to 40% fan and 4.675GHz, ~1.38V. This time I can achieve 11900 which is a solid 16.7% increase and only a 3.5% under the single-core test.
Nice video. My conclusion is that aside in benchmark softwares, I don't think overclocking the 5000 series is giving much more improvement over the stock Proc, at least nothing that would really be really noticeable in real conditions...
This is silly advice, on MSI MOBO just use the Curve Optimizer from: Overclocking\Advanced CPU Configuration\AMD Overclocking\Curve Optimizer. Other MOBOs may have similar menu, just look for it. Make sure to DISABLE the PBO Limits. Then in Curve Optimizer change to ALL CORES, the SIGN to NEGATIVE and start with 30 and if not stable start lowering towards the 25. I started with 25 and was good, changed it to 30 and Windows crashed, changed to 28, good so far. What you get by using the Curve Optimizer is lower CPU Voltage (better for CPU), lower maximum W so lower TDP, lower maximum temperature under load, more clock speed. Only thing is that my 5600X is not going faster than 4649MHz even though it is cooler, thus less throttling.
Thanks for the video, I'm a chartered engineer - love the T-shirt! The takeaway is that it just isn't worth it. The performance gains are trivial but the power use / temperature rise is significant. Also concerns about chip degradation. I've been overclocking for some 30 years, from a Pentium 60 @ 66MHz and including real stars like the Celeron 300A at 464MHz and the E4300 1.8GHz C2D at 3.4GHz. Those were real night and day performance jumps, taking a budget chip to the performance levels of the then state of the art. This potential just doesn't exist with modern chips like Zen 3. I'll be leaving my 5600X stock and enjoying the very cool, quiet and efficient CPU it is.
Haha thanks! There are some use cases where it can be worth it, but for 99% users I would say it is probably not worth it as the chip is already super good
you can see if you can overclock with voltage as low as 1.2 which is even cooler than stock settings..example my 5600x is oc at 4.6 at only 1.2v staying cool all the time with no voltage spikes or heat spikes and staying 10 degrees cooler under load
Fantastic video! Very new to all of this and learned a lot from this video! Just got my first AMD cpu :D I am just gonna use it for gaming, is there nothing in BIOS i would need to change then? Thinking about this PBO etc, won't be overclocking it after watching this video :) Thanks for the great info! :D
Great and helpful video! Do you have any one off tips or advice with any specific brands of motherboards? For example, I'm going to follow this OCing guide with my 3900X on a Aorus ITX B550 board.
I'd say most brands are very similar. The thing to watch out for is the load line calibration. Read up on that for your specific motherboard as the scale they use is different.
5800x is such a hot lady, even on stock it goes 60C idle and 80C while gaming in my current setup of 3 intake, 1 outtake fans and nzxt x52 aio. I sadly need to undervolt it if I want to not have my fans go 100% all the time.
that seems a bit too warm for idle, but 80c while gaming is good, anything under 90c is good providing your fans are not full blast. Check if you have some sort of auto OC on on the motherboard.
@@A2KMedia Btw, on full stock I have it at 4.8Ghz all the time and just dips or adds a few mhz at a time. It also hovers 1.4 volts most of the time, is that normal? I probably it to normal once I get a beefier cooling solution, but I think my nzxt x52 is still good. I just don’t want all my fans on full trottle while gaming.
@@Phanthesma with 4.8 it sounds like you have performance enhancement on via bios. 1.4V too. But voltage is hard to measure as it changes multiple times per second(1000 to be exact) the monitoring tool only checks it half the time so it is likely it goes up and down but you only seeing the high value. Ryzen chips "park" the cores when not used but it will always show the last votage value that was used. just few tips to bear in mind.
hello there! I own a 5600x cpu, I have turbo mode enabled in my gigabyte b550 elite v2, when I am gaming my cpu frequency goes to 4.7ghz and my temps go from 60-65-75 degrees celcius max.My question is - is it okay for gaming to have this turbo boost enabled, is it normal to reach 4.5-4-7ghz while gaming? If it is not, is there a way for me to decrease it from 4.7 to go to like 4.4 ghz so the temps are not so high and will this deacrease or improve gaming performance? Please help me i am a total noob when it comes to hardware
I did a OC to 4500 with 1,15 voltage with my ryzen 5600x the temperature did not override 56 degrees on hwmonitor. And on ASUS software the cpu temp was at max 45 degree while benchmarking in cinebench r23. My question is is this ok? Or should I raise my voltage to 1,325 like some people have here? Btw I’m new to this OC thing.
@@A2KMedia isn’t it to good results tbh? I use Arctic’s freezer 2 240mm. I also did a reset on bios to fabric setting on cpu. It got the auto oc function. But the cpu went from 3,7-4.6 in different tasks. When in idle with 1,149 voltage. Using this current I got I got less power consumption but higher fps plus more stabile cpu. Another question is should I even clock it or left at default? I don’t know this opinion regarding OC is so sensitive. What is your thoughts on my cpu ryzen 5600x?
Nice vid. I think you need a part 2 about memory oc, it makes quite a difference. Btw. i'm a bit confused with the temperature readings on Ryzen CPU's and what are people actually using for testing. Is ryzen master the best place to get the temperature?
PBO and some additional PBO settings on the ASUS boards gives a few % (around 3%) single core, and multi core boost as far as I can tell on my system. So it's something. :P
Hey. When I want to enable PBO, Should I use 1. Load line level 3 2. PBO Fmax Enchancer 3. PBO Scalar 1-10? 4. Max CPU Clock Override ?! Would be awesome to get an answer here
I tried some PBO settings this evening, got my 5800x to run 5.05GHz boost and 4.5ish all core, here's the settings I used: Load line 3 Voltage offset - 100mV PBO scalar 3x (you can go higher, but it causes a bit of instability for me) Frequency override + 200MHz Max power: 145W TDC: 100A EDC: 160A Fmax enhancer breaks the PBO algorithm, so disable it. Also, you can punch in ridiculously high values for Max power, TDC and EDC, but for me, higher values means less performance, while lower values would actually power limit my CPU. Edit: see my CPUz validation: valid.x86.fr/vnz2p4 and 5.05GHz image: imgur.com/a/Se4cGfd
So basically: Do not OC, stock clock is already good enough. Good to know, ty xD I don't wanna crash my pc lol, I already know how to overclock my GPU and its safer too. I got the MSI 6800xt gaming x trio and gave it+4 more voltage power, set the clock speed to 2400mhz and the memory clock to 2130mhz using MSI Afterburner and Nzxt Cam.
I have managed to get 4.7 at 1.2V and im gonna stop here because thats a very sweet spot for performance/longetivity and my temps are 40c gaming, 55c stress testing and 25c idle
great video thanks for all the info! I have a question tho. My 5600x underperforms my good old 4.8Ghz i5 7600k :( gets crazy hot even when I try the default 4.5 with 1.3V you suggested, maybe starting somewhere around 4.2 with 1.2V would be safer since not everybody has good cooling :) I am still waiting for my Noctua15 so I guess the reason is either the horrible stock cooler or recently applied thermal paste. My question is what are the safe temperatures during idle and heavy benchmark(like prime95)? I don't want to cross the 90 barrier at all.
Anyone overclocking should really have some experience and good cooling as you really will struggle without it and probably would have worse results than stock. It's safe as long as you stay under 90c. if you are getting nhd15 then you will likely be fine to push it like crazy :)
@@A2KMedia I figured with default bios settings for some reason, it was applying 1.4V+ during 4.65Ghz boost causing insane temperatures. Even fixing it to all core 4.2(stable) or 4.5(not that much) with 1.2V helped me heatwise(nothing over 90). after noctua I will try to increase voltage keeping and eye on the temps to find where it gets stable :) Thanks again, great video!
About to replace my 2600k (4.7ghz) with a 5600x, glad to see I can eek some more performance out of the 5600x if i need to in a few years like I've done with my 2600k!
@@A2KMedia *excited noises* Now I've just got to pick between an x570 tomahawk or a tai chi and find ram that will clear my nh-d15, but that's half the fun!!
If I'm not planning to strictly overclock, but rather undervolt while keeping my core clocks stable at around 4.2-4.5Ghz, would I still need to set CPU load-line calibration to level 3? Or would it be okay to leave that set to auto?
@@A2KMedia Thanks for the quick reply! So, from what it looks like PBO2 will be smarter about OC and undervolting the cpu itself, better than PBO. And it seems to favor single-threaded performance over multi-threaded. Does it mean that I should make a choice between using PBO vs PBO2, or is PBO2 going to be just better than its predecessor? Also, it's not available yet right? Any info on a release date?
@@zowbaid89 its better on both, as it will greatly reduce temps which in turn will let it boost higher. pbo2 is definitely the better one. as to release - it is out already, some manufacturers like ASUS already have them implemented, others just need BIOS update.
@@A2KMedia oh really?? I have an Asus crosshair viii hero motherboard and I just updated the bios 3 days ago. I didn’t find any PBO2 option. Is it called something else in the bios? Or do I need to download a different update from another site or something? Thank you
@@zowbaid89 yep that one has it. Get latest bios and it's there. You better read up some documentation about it. It's is not explicitly called pbo2, there are a few options to select and configure.
Very Nice video, weird part for me is I didn't do what you suggested (sorry I'm new to OC so didn't know how) and yet I got 4402 score at multicore test in Cinebanch with the 5600x by using PBO and turning on all sort of Asus automatic enchantments from the bios, also set boost to max 4.85ghz, sadly I couldn't reach this score using AMD master, spend a whole day tweaking and resting the bios, I just left it this way hope its enough, my specs: 4x8gb gskill 3600 cls 16 (infinity fabric of 1.8ghz), Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING, (updated bios via usb), Also temp at full load are less then 75C using Noctua nh-d15s + Kryonaut.
@@A2KMedia R7 2700x AMD processor. Was making a joke how "far" behind I am with the current generation. 2700x was flagship for the 2000's series. Pairing it with a 2080.
I have a question; my 5950x is severely underperforming at stock, only getting an R20 MC score of 9300. PBO boosts that up to 10500, though. What do you think the issue could be? Is my chip a lemon, is my mobo causing bad results, or both? Temperatures are fine without PBO, staying under 60, even. I'm on an X570-E GAMING. If you do have any ideas, I'd be very happy to hear them!
@@MickehPuppeh that does sound similar to what I got, just as a test - set your CPU fan/cooler to full blast, run the test a few more times and see if it improves performance, if it does then it is a thermal issue.
Hi. I have done some very basic overclocking on my Intel i7-4770k, but new to AMD. I have parts (5800x cpu) and will be assembling my system later today. My primary use-case is iRacing with VR, it is known to be very much dependent on single core performance. As far as I can tell, there does not exist a great iRacing specific benchmark. In iRacing forums, single thread CPU-z score seems to be the benchmark of choice. My question, any specific tips for overclocking when I care more about single core improvements than overall/multi-core?
I'd say you will probably have enough performance out of the box and just leave it as is. If you really need the overclock then try pbo for a week and all core oc for a week and see which you prefer
helped a lot though can't understand the infinity fabric part a bit. You mentioned 1:1:1 ratio on memory clock, memory speed, and IF. This means, if for instance the memory clock is 3200mhz, then the memory speed I must put is 1600mhz and IF is 3200mhz?
thanks for kind words! not exactly. the stock IF clock is 1800. The effective memory speed of your 3200 ram is actually 1600. I would not reduce the IF below but if possible I'd aim for ram which is 3600 or 3800 speed then try to overclock IF to 1900 if possible. Hope that helps
I'm running at 4.55ghz and 1.3 volts and with nearly no testing needed... even though i imagine 4.75 Is possible, I don't find the effort and gains worth the work, so being safe is better then being sorry I'd say😂.
Wrong about one thing: Your warranty isn't voided if you OC, it is voided if you cause damage by doing OC.. The 2 things aren't the same.. Please correct this.
technically you are right, but look at it this way - you would only need warranty if something goes wrong with the part, you doing OC can cause the issue and then warranty is void. Of course if you do OC and then stop it, you may still be covered providing faults come from another cause. General advice from AMD is - changes to stock operation are not covered by warranty and we feel our statement is still important to ensure people who are not too familiar with overclocking are cautious.
I activate DOCP and it wont boot up at 3600Mhz, with the memory frequency and FCLK frequency at 3200/1600 it works but the Hyperx Predator CL17 are supposedly 3600. Is that because of the voltage that needs adjustemnt or the timings that DOCP tries? If i don't use the DOCP and i set it up manually Spped 3200Mhz, FCLK 1600 MHZ then everything works but the timings (CAS) are 22 instead of 17. Should i try to just use DOCP and adjust the voltage a little?
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I'm about to purchase an AMD Ryzen 9 5950x but I'm struggling to choose a motherboard. I really like the Asus brand and would like to stick with that . Any solid suggestions for me? My budget is around $260. I loved the vid btw, keep it up!
@@A2KMedia oh that's reassuring to hear! :) I was originally debating the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming with the Asus ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming. But there is a $120 dollar price difference between them and I don't know if it's worth it. The highest I'm willing to spend on a motherboard is $260. Is there that mid tear board that's in the sweet spot of $260 with it having qualities of being better than the B550-F? Or do you think the B550-F is good enough for everything? I appreciate your responses btw thank you it's helping me a lot! I will be a subscriber for sure.
Here I won't be able to help you. Do check out the feature set. Some of them have wifi, some have more usb C ports and so on. Check what you would need now and probably in the next 2-3 years and then buy based on that
I'm excited with my first ever pc build. All my parts r ready with d x570 crsshair impact mobo and 5900x. I've seen from known reviewer that jumping straight to the latest version update of the board affects performance (not an asus board though), and should have done series of updates in order. should i jump to flashing the bios update with v3003 or start from v2206 (or older versions than that depending on the mobo manufactured date)? if i start from v2206 (or older), should i do same flashing steps without cpu for every versions until i reach v3003? or i can do those with ez flash (from v2311). thanks and happy holidays everyone!
What temperature is max safe if its not crashing? I have 5950x, msi 360 aio, 4.5GHz 1.3V, temp slowly increasing from 85-91c at full load after few minutes then I stopped. Is going to lets say 95c safe? And is it different if I want it to run for 10h+ straight at full load
If you have it running at 95C at full load for few minutes even half hour - i'd say itsok. If on the other hand you need to run it 10h+ at a time I would turn it down.
been trying to OC my 5600x now for a day and cannot get it stable at all beyond 4.3ghz. I am using an x570 tomahawk mobo, corsair 3200mhz ram kit, an enermax 120mm tower cooler. Running prime 95 and the temps quickly spike to 108 and the computer turns off. I have percision boost on level 2 the core voltage set to 1.25. Beyond that it fails prime in about 3 mins. Maybe I just lost the lotto or there is some other setting I am missing? All in my case - Masterbox TD500 mesh white (3x front fans,1x rear fan all 120mm).
depends what you play using what settings and also at what resolution. I would say if you play most games at 1080p or 1440p then yes. at 4K if you ramp up your settings you may see some issues.
@@A2KMedia I plan to play Apex Legends at 1440p competitive settings. It should be able to handle it and also capping frames at 143 because I'm a controller player. TY for the fast reply btw
So I'm kinda new at this, but what if I wanted to use the 5950x at stock, but when used for rendering workload, I wanted to get the full use out of it, what cpu cooler would be best for this?? thank you.
@@MaxwellsUnearthly for RGB I'd say you better off go with liquid AIO. We have used fractal design celsius + 240mm and it does well, if you can go with the 360mm. They have an RGB version with prisma fans.
you can do, but its a bit of an unrealistic test these days for most users as it just tortures the CPU. normally users would only have max load for a limited time.
True life saver, now the system is running so much stable now. One problem though i have 3600mhz g skill sticks and when i set it to 3600mhz it doesnt boot at all but when i set it to 3200 it boots instantly, any tips?
It has changed a little and options opened up. While to have higher boost clock you may be ok with voltage offset, but all core OC now is very impressive too.
I would love a bit help. My 5950X underpeformer by 40% compaired to other. In R15 and R20 temp at 75. R20 get like 5600 in multi... boost jump up and down between 3.8 and 4.7-4.8. Updated bios Asus croshair hero viii (wifi) to version 3003. Can The fault be The newer bios version? Under R15/R20, it set auto volt at 1.45v. Any assistence? 🙈
@@A2KMedia so is not possible to track individual core temps with amd? I find that odd when trying to compare cores to make sure they are all within range of reach other. If that is the case, which temp sensor are you using as the overall temp? Thanks
@@shaolin95 no, not individual temps. if you use ryzen 9 then you can track individual CCDs(6 or 8 core each). We use HWinfo to monitor and here combination between tdie and average between the two CCDs.
@@A2KMedia ok interesting. Things are very different on the AMD team lol. I think it would be helpful to do a detailed Overclocking tutorial as I am sure many new INTEL people are coming to AMD with the 5000 series and feeling a bit lost like me. :)
Thanks for this video, I was able to find my sweet spot this way but I then found that the core clocks would stay up at maximum the whole time. I've heard pros and cons about this. What is the difference between doing it this way or using PBO? thanks
Overclocking is so confusing! I just got my 5800x. Is it normal for my CPU Voltage to stay at 1.45v while gaming? I look at my Ryzen Master on my second monitor it is always at 1.4 to 1.45v while playing Apex Legends. When I idle at desktop it goes back to 1 to 1.07v. When I move my cursor on desktop randomly super fast CPU Volt go up to 1.4 and stay there however long I keep my mouse moving at rapid speed. Temperature seems to be normal tho at 55 to 60c while gaming and 35-40 while idling. Is this voltage safe when gaming? Thanks in advance
so, the voltage can be very misleading as all hardware monitors check its value every 1 second, at most every half a second. The CPU modulates at 1 millisecond so it could have jumped to 1.45v and then back to 1.2v but not show you at the right time, also hw monitors report last value - what you find in gaming, some cores go to "sleep" and during that time it is likely showing 1.4v even though it is at 0. Something to check - if your temps are ok and you have not forced high voltage, then you should be alright.
i have a app i can access for my nvidia card or whatever and it gives me the option to overclock and test and it applies saying success has no problem that means i'm in the clar yeah?
I have a new 5900x on Asus x570 gaming board. Default performance was terrible limited by 140 watt. After enabling PBO my results are better but PBO is raising my cores voltage to 1.33V on 24 threads workloads and 1.488v on single threaded benchmarks... Isn't 1.488v way to much voltage for these chips?!
Lol on cinebench my score last time stock with my 5600x x570 was 10392 And right now I'm running it again and it's beating my old score Closes chips are more expensive than my whole rig I either won the lottery or something or my gear just really works well together
My R5 5600x is so stable with everything set to auto I just don't have a desire to overlock it. It jogs through most games on ultra settings anyway. Truly a phenomenal processor.
Does auto oc through ryzen master, void my warranty??? I don't want to manually overclock, I just want ryzen master the overclock for me to what is the highest I got get while still staying at a reasonable temperature. This is all for the Ryzen 9 5950X which I have purchased.
Hey, yes it would void your warranty. To be honest 5950x is crazy fast and unless you need that all core constant performance thenn leaving it at stock is probably best.
@@A2KMedia Thank you so much! Great Video!!!!! I heard that the Ryzen 9 5950X can boost single core to well above 4.9Ghz often reaching 5Ghz, I wanted to try that through ryzen master but I did not want to void my warranty.
I have the 5600x + 2x8 3200 16cl Trident Z Neo. I just see the ram at 2133 and select 3200 on Asus B550m bios. I didn't turn DOCP on, just auto mode. Is that OK to do? Do I win something turning it on?
I ran my 5 5600x at 1.3v but accidentally put in 45.00 instead of 46.00 and was hovering around 71.8 to 73.4c . This is on a hyper212 evo cooler with 1 fan @ 100%, I am adding another fan. The only reason I say all this is because I switched motherboards and remember running at 4.65 all day with not a single crash and that was when 5000 series first dropped “or around there” and I forgot how I got it there. So.. my question is. With high fidelity gaming at 1440p is a healthy cpu temp suppose to be 63 to 65c or what does one recommend?
@@A2KMedia would it really be this easy if I did 1.3v 46.00 Multiplier With temps of 70ish in cinebench 3 times without a crash. I heard you mention “ draft ready” I’m just trying to game with this machine that’s it and browse wed when needed. I’ve just never overclocked, I mean. My cpu was on another motherboard recently and the actual bios chip failed so I forgot what I did 2 years ago.
Late to the party, but i got 28% higher cinebench score by undervolting and underclocking multicore to 4.2@1.1v. My mobo has dynamic oc switch with stilettos fix for pbo. So i get single core boosts up to 4.9@1.5v (auto settings) Max temp for me is 69c, idle 42. using a dark hero 8. willing to post my bios settings for others to take advantage.
@@A2KMedia 5950x on asus dark hero viii. i run 1.111v@4300 all core oc, 4.9/5ghz single oc. basically all on auto mate. :) Temps are mid to low 40's. Max load is high 60's. h150i cooler with lm.
when i turn pbo or go to 4.2ghz oc i get max temps on cinebench r23 up to 90c but it wont go any higher than that and its stable i just dont know if those temps are safe or if should just stay away from OC, using a kraken x73
@@A2KMedia 5950x, i got to solve my issue, so in Nzxt Cam Software there is a a config to change from cpu to liquid, that helped a lot and then the other thing that helped a lot was turning both PBO and Fmax enhancer, now i can hit 4.6ghz easy and wont go any higher than 70c, anyone reading this and having this issue, try this
Hello engineer. On behalf of all mechanics, I’d like to have a word about this “never wrong” sentiment.
Haha! Love it
As a mechanic I noticed the shirt and looked for this comment. The engineers at work come to me with questions I rarely go to them. Though there are some very talented ones out there.
Buddy, it's been very hard to find such a comprehensive video on overclocking Ryzen9 CPUs. Thank you so much, you have a new subscriber!
Glad it helped! And thanks for the sub, will work hard not to let your expectations down 👍
no deceptions at all sorry if it seems that way. The increase on PPT/EDC/TDC does not "force" anything, but rather removes limits. CPU will then adjust its performance based on requirements and power/thermal constraints. As it will be pushing much harder - of course it will use much more power, that's the nature of the beast. This video is made to show all different tools used in overclocking the CPU and users can choose what they prefer to do
Just got a 5600x and found this. Have to say, your production looks great! The only thing I could ask for is make the result values on the graphs larger. Hard to see on a mobile device clearly.
Thanks, Matthew! Completely agree about the issue with graphs, on the latest video we tried adjusting them so it's easier to read the text on smaller screens. They are still not 100% to our liking so will be working on improving it. Thank you for your feedback.
You deserve more subs mate. Thank you for your time and a good advise. Thumb up!
Thanks, this is very much appreciated!
The sweet spot for my Ryzen 5950x is 4.8 GHz on all cores @ 1.35V, FCLK = 1800, no SMT reaching max temp of 78 degrees.
In Time Spy this achieves 16536 CPU score in the CPU test.
I have tested also out of the stock with PBO achieving 14453 CPU score and
and OC on all cores up to 4.65 GHz with SMT reaching 83 degrees which achieved 15703 score.
Max stable OC was 4.85 but increasing the temp for 5-6 degree, so I decided it is not worth it.
Great video and some very useful experience shared in the comments.
Very nice! Thanks for sharing
Just buy new cpu😅
Thanks for the video. With my 5600x I already tested two stable approaches in BIOS:
- manual overclock - ratio 47x, voltage 1,225V (lowest stable so far)
- PBO - PPT+TDC+EDC 200 A (they dont limit anything), PBO Scalar 1x, Curve Optimizer - All cores negative -> 26 (so far the highest stable), Max Boost Clock Override 150 MHz
So far similar experience, 60-70C in games, PBO sligthly higher boost (4800Mhz), max auto voltages (1,3) and a bit higher temps. But I like PBO method more since it can lower the volts during idle to 0,88V and does't keep it set .. it it is better I guess (?)
looking good there! It depends what you do, if you are pushing CPU with all core loads then I'd try to get all core OC, if not then PBO probably is better.
Can you send me a screenshot of what you have set on Ryzen master please. Cuz I have the 5600x too
I'm keeping my 5600x at 4.5 Ghz all-core at 1.2v for now. seems super stable so far and very cool&quiet
Very nice!
Good on you, but I never get the point of manually setting lower speed than what auto settings delivers.
@@MrStoffzor improved multi-core performance, better thermals overall. When on auto my 5600x spikes to 1.4v+, and for what? +100mhz extra single core perf? I’d rather have better all core performance
@@ice1602 These spikes are really low amperage, compared to a higher amperage on lower voltages. Exactly the pbo/boost is going to get your the best performance during gaming.
What cinebench r23 score u get?
Didn't really learned much of anything new cause been overclocking for awhile now but damn this is a good video for people trying to get into it. Well down.
It's such a great feedback! Thank you, greatly appreciated 🙂 Also, we are working on something that may actually be new to you as well - stay tuned :)
wow youre so cool what a weird flex bro
thanks man, you should have so many more subs! keep going
thanks!
I spent a week frustratedly trying to OC my 5800X.
I started with trying to get my 3600MHZ RAM up to 3800 with 1900 on the Infinity Fabric. This seemed stable & got me an immediate improvement in framerate for Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
Next, I moved to trying for a higher all-core clock on the CPU. 4.7GHz with 1.35V was stable in benchmarks, but going up to even 4.75 gave me very inconsistent results, no matter the voltage. Cinebench was fine, but CPU Mark was not.
Lastly (or so I thought), I OC'd my EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080. I bumped the memory up +350 & the core +120. That's a clock of just over 2100MHz. Even with the XOC BIOS, this is all it would do. Thermals were not a problem & I put the voltage slider all the way to the right, but it wouldn't go any higher. I found stable results in Heaven, Time Spy & Port Royal.
Then I had problems... trying to run games for even a few minutes caused crashes. Putting the PC to sleep once caused my BIOS to reset when I tried to wake it.
After days of tweaking, I basically had to take the RAM all the way back to it's XMP setting of 3600 & have ditched the all-core OC for simply using Precision Boost Overdrive. That at least keeps my computer from randomly crashing or going into boot loops.
Overall, I'm a bit frustrated that all my experience & all my guide following didn't really get me anything except days of stress & lost sleep.
I'd still like to try & tweak a bit further, perhaps when drivers are a bit more mature, but maybe I just don't have great chips for overclocking. I have an overbulit cooling system, so neither my CPU or GPU are particularly constrained by thermals. They just don't seem to OC very far.
welcome to the world of overclocking :) It is not uncommon to spend days or weeks tweaking it just to settle for basic OC. it also seems you may not have had the best of luck in silicone lottery. We were lucky with the 5600x chip as it goes way above expectations. Do read up about PBO version 2, that may be something you could utilize.
Both Intel and Amd dont like people to overclock,so the implemented the so called "Boosting" this end the best enjoy in overclocking that people make in the old day,like with Cyrix chips and Athlon...
First time I got a stable overclock . Thanks you !!!
Thanks for this video. I recently got myself Asus TUF B450 + 5600X + 32GB Hyper Fury X 3200 XMP + TUF 3070 Gaming OC +AIO cooling and was able to tweak/oc a little bit and ended up with my sweet-spot of x46.5 @ 1.275 all cores boost with ~45-50C idle, ~60C-65C gaming (Cyberpunk2077) and ~70C stress (Cinebench 23 multi-core for 30 minutes); nearly silent desktop when idling or 50-70% CPU/GPU usage. Good for me.
very nice! I like the balanced setup too
Can u guide me ? How to do on all core
I found this quite useful - I've had a deadlock on my cpu since I setup bios, I was being careful not to overdo it - I discovered my R5 5600x was set to a cap of 4.18GHz and cpu temp is usually quite good, my plan is to raise it to the 4.6GHz max and I didnt know the voltage changes to make that safe change, until....I found this video, so thank you
nice! glad you could get more performance out of it.
@@A2KMedia yeah it's good, ryzen master helped me boost without having to restart into bios, it's running without any bottleneck with my 3070 which is running at 2000mhz
Wha was the voltage that u used ?
Wow, awesome breakdown, I'm new to Ryzen overclocking so this helps getting up to speed. Subbed!
thanks for watching! good luck!
Thanks best video ever there is no overclocking video like this for the 5600x thabks 😊
Glad you liked it!
@@A2KMedia I have a result of 4.95 GHz for all cores at a voltage of 1.52v
Thanks for this video! I gave it a like. The video is not too long, is informative and the production is good. I have the 5950x and I completely agree on the thermal part. It does run hot. I think if you take the cooler off you can actually bake something on it too.
Finally got my 5900x set up. Thank you for the info. Cpuz score went from 9400 to 9890 multi.
nice! what are the temps?
@@A2KMedia i was told to let you guys know his chip fried and he cant get online :( seems nobody told him its not safe to over volt ryzen2 and 3 over 1.4
@@wtf847 oh no! let us know how he gets on with the replacement, if they take it as it is a hot topic.
Subscribed because I've managed to get my hands on a 5600x for £280 new 😮 and I'm trying to get a bit more performance :) great video my friend 👍👍
great deal! good luck with the OC and enjoy the system :)
thx from Germany for your work
but maybe you can make a second Guide for overclocking with PBO that would be nice !
Thanks for watching! With pbo I'd just max out the settings and see if you can drop the voltage offset down by 1 or 2 points
I have ryzen 7 3700x and I have it overclocked to 4.5 on all cores. Works great, gaming, streaming, and video editing.
Nice!
Dude great stuff. Amazing quality video. How the hell do you only have 2.5k sub? I thought you'd have a few hundred thousands based on the quality. Liked and subbed.
btw, what voltage did you use to get to 4.6/4.7 on the 5950x? and what motherboard do you have. My Tomahawk x570 load line calibration goes up to 8 so I just wanna make sure I'm using the same settings. Thanks!!
Thanks, this is really appreciated. The mobo is asus x570 hero 8 wifi, I was able to leave it at 1.35V with LLC set to 3, I think MSI would be 4 or 5, but it really depends on your chip as it could be vastly different performance.
Ive managed to get a stable overclock at 4.8Ghz, 1.3125 volts on my Ryzen 5 5600x
Very good!
God damn dude that’s really good for the cost of that thing
I'd probably go for medium and test from there.
@V looking really good. what is max temp?
@V very good!
Thanks!!
Here is something for Gigabyte users: LOAD-LINE is under CPU/VRM Setting which locates at the bottom of the "tweak" menu, and I set it to "turbo".
I am a heavy simulation user, so I would die for more all-core performance. A 5950X with 4.7GHz, 1.4V, Corsair 240 mm aio at 100% fan speed achieves an R20 score of 12200 while reaching 92C. That is obviously too loud and hot, so I change to 40% fan and 4.675GHz, ~1.38V. This time I can achieve 11900 which is a solid 16.7% increase and only a 3.5% under the single-core test.
Wow nice!
That is actually really helpful. Thanks for the good content :D
you are welcome!
Nice video. My conclusion is that aside in benchmark softwares, I don't think overclocking the 5000 series is giving much more improvement over the stock Proc, at least nothing that would really be really noticeable in real conditions...
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for mentioning load line calibration 🙏
Np
This is silly advice, on MSI MOBO just use the Curve Optimizer from: Overclocking\Advanced CPU Configuration\AMD Overclocking\Curve Optimizer.
Other MOBOs may have similar menu, just look for it. Make sure to DISABLE the PBO Limits. Then in Curve Optimizer change to ALL CORES, the SIGN to NEGATIVE and start with 30 and if not stable start lowering towards the 25.
I started with 25 and was good, changed it to 30 and Windows crashed, changed to 28, good so far.
What you get by using the Curve Optimizer is lower CPU Voltage (better for CPU), lower maximum W so lower TDP, lower maximum temperature under load, more clock speed.
Only thing is that my 5600X is not going faster than 4649MHz even though it is cooler, thus less throttling.
Thanks for the video, I'm a chartered engineer - love the T-shirt! The takeaway is that it just isn't worth it. The performance gains are trivial but the power use / temperature rise is significant. Also concerns about chip degradation. I've been overclocking for some 30 years, from a Pentium 60 @ 66MHz and including real stars like the Celeron 300A at 464MHz and the E4300 1.8GHz C2D at 3.4GHz. Those were real night and day performance jumps, taking a budget chip to the performance levels of the then state of the art. This potential just doesn't exist with modern chips like Zen 3. I'll be leaving my 5600X stock and enjoying the very cool, quiet and efficient CPU it is.
Haha thanks! There are some use cases where it can be worth it, but for 99% users I would say it is probably not worth it as the chip is already super good
you can see if you can overclock with voltage as low as 1.2 which is even cooler than stock settings..example my 5600x is oc at 4.6 at only 1.2v staying cool all the time with no voltage spikes or heat spikes and staying 10 degrees cooler under load
@@wtf847 this is really impressive!
Fantastic video! Very new to all of this and learned a lot from this video!
Just got my first AMD cpu :D
I am just gonna use it for gaming, is there nothing in BIOS i would need to change then?
Thinking about this PBO etc, won't be overclocking it after watching this video :)
Thanks for the great info! :D
Thanks! Just make sure to enable docp for ram oc
Great and helpful video! Do you have any one off tips or advice with any specific brands of motherboards? For example, I'm going to follow this OCing guide with my 3900X on a Aorus ITX B550 board.
I'd say most brands are very similar. The thing to watch out for is the load line calibration. Read up on that for your specific motherboard as the scale they use is different.
Really good guide and easy to follow.
We are thrilled to hear that our effort was worth it. Thank you for the useful feedback! 👍
I get my 5600X in a couple of days!!! can't wait, updating from a Intel 5930k and it's going to be a big difference!!
Oh for sure!
thanks for showing the time on thumbnail
5800x is such a hot lady, even on stock it goes 60C idle and 80C while gaming in my current setup of 3 intake, 1 outtake fans and nzxt x52 aio. I sadly need to undervolt it if I want to not have my fans go 100% all the time.
that seems a bit too warm for idle, but 80c while gaming is good, anything under 90c is good providing your fans are not full blast. Check if you have some sort of auto OC on on the motherboard.
@@A2KMedia I live in asia so it get’s pretty warm here.
@@Phanthesma same :) 28 indoors
@@A2KMedia Btw, on full stock I have it at 4.8Ghz all the time and just dips or adds a few mhz at a time. It also hovers 1.4 volts most of the time, is that normal?
I probably it to normal once I get a beefier cooling solution, but I think my nzxt x52 is still good. I just don’t want all my fans on full trottle while gaming.
@@Phanthesma with 4.8 it sounds like you have performance enhancement on via bios. 1.4V too. But voltage is hard to measure as it changes multiple times per second(1000 to be exact) the monitoring tool only checks it half the time so it is likely it goes up and down but you only seeing the high value. Ryzen chips "park" the cores when not used but it will always show the last votage value that was used. just few tips to bear in mind.
hello there! I own a 5600x cpu, I have turbo mode enabled in my gigabyte b550 elite v2, when I am gaming my cpu frequency goes to 4.7ghz and my temps go from 60-65-75 degrees celcius max.My question is - is it okay for gaming to have this turbo boost enabled, is it normal to reach 4.5-4-7ghz while gaming?
If it is not, is there a way for me to decrease it from 4.7 to go to like 4.4 ghz so the temps are not so high and will this deacrease or improve gaming performance?
Please help me i am a total noob when it comes to hardware
Hey! this is very good performance and I would not change anything. Its both fast and running very cool.
How did you set it to the turbo mode on this mainboard? I want to buy the Same Mainboard with the same cpu and want to overclock it
this processor is great! I made a video where I managed to overclock 4950 MHz. The next step is to go beyond 5GHz.
I did a OC to 4500 with 1,15 voltage with my ryzen 5600x the temperature did not override 56 degrees on hwmonitor. And on ASUS software the cpu temp was at max 45 degree while benchmarking in cinebench r23. My question is is this ok? Or should I raise my voltage to 1,325 like some people have here? Btw I’m new to this OC thing.
that is great results
@@A2KMedia isn’t it to good results tbh? I use Arctic’s freezer 2 240mm. I also did a reset on bios to fabric setting on cpu. It got the auto oc function. But the cpu went from 3,7-4.6 in different tasks. When in idle with 1,149 voltage. Using this current I got I got less power consumption but higher fps plus more stabile cpu. Another question is should I even clock it or left at default? I don’t know this opinion regarding OC is so sensitive. What is your thoughts on my cpu ryzen 5600x?
it is really good result. leave it as is
Nice vid. I think you need a part 2 about memory oc, it makes quite a difference. Btw. i'm a bit confused with the temperature readings on Ryzen CPU's and what are people actually using for testing. Is ryzen master the best place to get the temperature?
Thanks! For temps I recommend using hwinfo
PBO and some additional PBO settings on the ASUS boards gives a few % (around 3%) single core, and multi core boost as far as I can tell on my system. So it's something. :P
Hey. When I want to enable PBO, Should I use
1. Load line level 3
2. PBO Fmax Enchancer
3. PBO Scalar 1-10?
4. Max CPU Clock Override
?!
Would be awesome to get an answer here
I tried some PBO settings this evening, got my 5800x to run 5.05GHz boost and 4.5ish all core, here's the settings I used:
Load line 3
Voltage offset - 100mV
PBO scalar 3x (you can go higher, but it causes a bit of instability for me)
Frequency override + 200MHz
Max power: 145W
TDC: 100A
EDC: 160A
Fmax enhancer breaks the PBO algorithm, so disable it.
Also, you can punch in ridiculously high values for Max power, TDC and EDC, but for me, higher values means less performance, while lower values would actually power limit my CPU.
Edit: see my CPUz validation: valid.x86.fr/vnz2p4 and 5.05GHz image: imgur.com/a/Se4cGfd
For reference: my 5800x will do 4.725GHz when manually OC'd, at like 1.28V after vdroop, which also runs HOT
So basically: Do not OC, stock clock is already good enough. Good to know, ty xD
I don't wanna crash my pc lol, I already know how to overclock my GPU and its safer too. I got the MSI 6800xt gaming x trio and gave it+4 more voltage power, set the clock speed to 2400mhz and the memory clock to 2130mhz using MSI Afterburner and Nzxt Cam.
short answer - yes :)
Thanks for the video - What motherboard & Ram did you use for this?
you are very welcome. motherboard was asus x570 hero 8 wifi with klevv 3600 ram (8x2)
I have managed to get 4.7 at 1.2V and im gonna stop here because thats a very sweet spot for performance/longetivity and my temps are 40c gaming, 55c stress testing and 25c idle
wow that is nice! which chip?
mate, can you please do a comprehensive 5900x overclocking guide?
We'll see what we can do about it. At the moment we don't have it.
great video thanks for all the info! I have a question tho. My 5600x underperforms my good old 4.8Ghz i5 7600k :( gets crazy hot even when I try the default 4.5 with 1.3V you suggested, maybe starting somewhere around 4.2 with 1.2V would be safer since not everybody has good cooling :) I am still waiting for my Noctua15 so I guess the reason is either the horrible stock cooler or recently applied thermal paste. My question is what are the safe temperatures during idle and heavy benchmark(like prime95)? I don't want to cross the 90 barrier at all.
Anyone overclocking should really have some experience and good cooling as you really will struggle without it and probably would have worse results than stock. It's safe as long as you stay under 90c. if you are getting nhd15 then you will likely be fine to push it like crazy :)
@@A2KMedia I figured with default bios settings for some reason, it was applying 1.4V+ during 4.65Ghz boost causing insane temperatures. Even fixing it to all core 4.2(stable) or 4.5(not that much) with 1.2V helped me heatwise(nothing over 90). after noctua I will try to increase voltage keeping and eye on the temps to find where it gets stable :) Thanks again, great video!
@@wfaction thanks! and let me know how you get on!
On my Ryzen 5 5600 I’m already exceeding thermal limits at 4.6 GHZ what should I do ?
About to replace my 2600k (4.7ghz) with a 5600x, glad to see I can eek some more performance out of the 5600x if i need to in a few years like I've done with my 2600k!
this will be a serious upgrade. as at even clock speed this cpu will be about 30% faster than your current :)
@@A2KMedia *excited noises*
Now I've just got to pick between an x570 tomahawk or a tai chi and find ram that will clear my nh-d15, but that's half the fun!!
@@lynnmckenney1987 haha that is fun :)
If I'm not planning to strictly overclock, but rather undervolt while keeping my core clocks stable at around 4.2-4.5Ghz, would I still need to set CPU load-line calibration to level 3? Or would it be okay to leave that set to auto?
I think auto is better. By the way with 5000 series undervolt is very different. Check out pbo2
@@A2KMedia Thanks for the quick reply! So, from what it looks like PBO2 will be smarter about OC and undervolting the cpu itself, better than PBO. And it seems to favor single-threaded performance over multi-threaded. Does it mean that I should make a choice between using PBO vs PBO2, or is PBO2 going to be just better than its predecessor? Also, it's not available yet right? Any info on a release date?
@@zowbaid89 its better on both, as it will greatly reduce temps which in turn will let it boost higher. pbo2 is definitely the better one. as to release - it is out already, some manufacturers like ASUS already have them implemented, others just need BIOS update.
@@A2KMedia oh really?? I have an Asus crosshair viii hero motherboard and I just updated the bios 3 days ago. I didn’t find any PBO2 option. Is it called something else in the bios? Or do I need to download a different update from another site or something? Thank you
@@zowbaid89 yep that one has it. Get latest bios and it's there. You better read up some documentation about it. It's is not explicitly called pbo2, there are a few options to select and configure.
Most motherboards can reset bios settings if you hold "Ins" button before starting the system :)
great tip! There is also normally few pins you can short after shutting down to reset :)
Very Nice video, weird part for me is I didn't do what you suggested (sorry I'm new to OC so didn't know how) and yet I got 4402 score at multicore test in Cinebanch with the 5600x by using PBO and turning on all sort of Asus automatic enchantments from the bios, also set boost to max 4.85ghz, sadly I couldn't reach this score using AMD master, spend a whole day tweaking and resting the bios, I just left it this way hope its enough, my specs: 4x8gb gskill 3600 cls 16 (infinity fabric of 1.8ghz), Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING, (updated bios via usb), Also temp at full load are less then 75C using Noctua nh-d15s + Kryonaut.
I think that is still a pretty good score!
@@A2KMedia agreed, I sure don't feel any difference =D
Looks like Daniel Brian started a RUclips channel!
Five-time world champion in WWE? OK, I'll take that 😁
laughs in 2700x, but i love your videos, i just subbed.
Glad you like them and thanks for the sub! What did you mean by 2700x?
@@A2KMedia R7 2700x AMD processor. Was making a joke how "far" behind I am with the current generation. 2700x was flagship for the 2000's series. Pairing it with a 2080.
@@Personalinfo404 ahh my bad! 2700x is still pretty capable!
I have a question; my 5950x is severely underperforming at stock, only getting an R20 MC score of 9300. PBO boosts that up to 10500, though. What do you think the issue could be? Is my chip a lemon, is my mobo causing bad results, or both? Temperatures are fine without PBO, staying under 60, even. I'm on an X570-E GAMING. If you do have any ideas, I'd be very happy to hear them!
What kind of speeds are toy getting? Also what cooler? It staying under 60 is normal but it may just be thermally limited so it clocks down
@@A2KMedia Single core is okay, at 4.9 GHz. Multi-core is 3.5 to 3.6 GHz.
@@MickehPuppeh that does sound similar to what I got, just as a test - set your CPU fan/cooler to full blast, run the test a few more times and see if it improves performance, if it does then it is a thermal issue.
Pretty nice chip when you can say the 3090 is a bottleneck haha. Seeing as I have a 1080ti, I can leave mine stick speeds I guess 🤣
oh yeah from 1080ti this is a massive upgrade.
THIS IS AMAZING! but id like to ask what's your testing methodology for the temps also what cooler were you using?
Thanka David, the cooler in this example was a fractal design 240mm celsius+ . In terms of methodology, what exactly would you like to know?
@@A2KMedia lol you responded immediately and he still hasn't responded in a month
Sometimes RUclips doesn't notify about comments so it's probably what happened here.
Hi. I have done some very basic overclocking on my Intel i7-4770k, but new to AMD. I have parts (5800x cpu) and will be assembling my system later today. My primary use-case is iRacing with VR, it is known to be very much dependent on single core performance. As far as I can tell, there does not exist a great iRacing specific benchmark. In iRacing forums, single thread CPU-z score seems to be the benchmark of choice. My question, any specific tips for overclocking when I care more about single core improvements than overall/multi-core?
I'd say you will probably have enough performance out of the box and just leave it as is. If you really need the overclock then try pbo for a week and all core oc for a week and see which you prefer
helped a lot though can't understand the infinity fabric part a bit. You mentioned 1:1:1 ratio on memory clock, memory speed, and IF. This means, if for instance the memory clock is 3200mhz, then the memory speed I must put is 1600mhz and IF is 3200mhz?
thanks for kind words! not exactly. the stock IF clock is 1800. The effective memory speed of your 3200 ram is actually 1600. I would not reduce the IF below but if possible I'd aim for ram which is 3600 or 3800 speed then try to overclock IF to 1900 if possible. Hope that helps
@@A2KMedia Thanks. Now I get it. it was really helpful cheers for you and the channel!
@@kingniko28 you are very welcome!
Awesome video but can I ask about the circular lamp behind you?
Thank you! 😊 The light is from a Singaporean company called Near Lighting and the product name is The Orbit.
@@A2KMedia Thanks, it looks awesome in the background
It is pretty funky, yes. It can do different colours or go through rainbow mode. We have a video about it, check it out if you're interested 😊
Hi i recently got a 5900x on a dark hero. Ruining it 4.6 all cores at 1.2v. Am I really missing out or giving up a lot of performances by doing so?
I think it's fine.
I'm running at 4.55ghz and 1.3 volts and with nearly no testing needed... even though i imagine 4.75 Is possible, I don't find the effort and gains worth the work, so being safe is better then being sorry I'd say😂.
I am kinda interested in the thermal...what cooling solutions are u using as I am consider whether the cpu is overcolckable on my aircooler lol
Hey, in this one we used 240mm AIO from fractal design.
But what's the best settings in PBO FOR GAMING specifically for the ryzen 5 5600x?
Wrong about one thing:
Your warranty isn't voided if you OC, it is voided if you cause damage by doing OC.. The 2 things aren't the same.. Please correct this.
technically you are right, but look at it this way - you would only need warranty if something goes wrong with the part, you doing OC can cause the issue and then warranty is void. Of course if you do OC and then stop it, you may still be covered providing faults come from another cause. General advice from AMD is - changes to stock operation are not covered by warranty and we feel our statement is still important to ensure people who are not too familiar with overclocking are cautious.
I was already getting 200-400fps in most of my games so I decided not to overclock my R7 5800X 😂 I do appreciate how informative this video is though.
haha, 400 not enough!! need 1000! :) thanks for watching
I activate DOCP and it wont boot up at 3600Mhz, with the memory frequency and FCLK frequency at 3200/1600 it works but the Hyperx Predator CL17 are supposedly 3600. Is that because of the voltage that needs adjustemnt or the timings that DOCP tries?
If i don't use the DOCP and i set it up manually Spped 3200Mhz, FCLK 1600 MHZ then everything works but the timings (CAS) are 22 instead of 17.
Should i try to just use DOCP and adjust the voltage a little?
Docp shoukd just work. Do try to update the bios
hi, I like the circle desk lamp that you have. I'd like to get one too, can you tell me its name or a link please?
Hey :) The lamp is The Orbit and it is from a Singaporean company called Near Lighting. We did a review on it, you can check it out ruclips.net/video/ZJC_KdOC-ZM/видео.html
I'm about to purchase an AMD Ryzen 9 5950x but I'm struggling to choose a motherboard. I really like the Asus brand and would like to stick with that . Any solid suggestions for me? My budget is around $260. I loved the vid btw, keep it up!
thanks! check out asus tuf b550 or b570
@@A2KMedia Thank you for that I'll look into them! Also, quick thoughts on the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming?
I am actually using this right now in my PC, no complaints. does it match your budget though?
@@A2KMedia oh that's reassuring to hear! :) I was originally debating the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming with the Asus ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming. But there is a $120 dollar price difference between them and I don't know if it's worth it. The highest I'm willing to spend on a motherboard is $260. Is there that mid tear board that's in the sweet spot of $260 with it having qualities of being better than the B550-F? Or do you think the B550-F is good enough for everything? I appreciate your responses btw thank you it's helping me a lot! I will be a subscriber for sure.
Here I won't be able to help you. Do check out the feature set. Some of them have wifi, some have more usb C ports and so on. Check what you would need now and probably in the next 2-3 years and then buy based on that
I'm excited with my first ever pc build. All my parts r ready with d x570 crsshair impact mobo and 5900x.
I've seen from known reviewer that jumping straight to the latest version update of the board affects performance (not an asus board though), and should have done series of updates in order.
should i jump to flashing the bios update with v3003 or start from v2206 (or older versions than that depending on the mobo manufactured date)?
if i start from v2206 (or older), should i do same flashing steps without cpu for every versions until i reach v3003? or i can do those with ez flash (from v2311).
thanks and happy holidays everyone!
I normally get straight to the latest full release of the bios .
@@A2KMedia thank you so much. ill do that.
@@RG-hs3wt no problem. enjoy your build!
What temperature is max safe if its not crashing? I have 5950x, msi 360 aio, 4.5GHz 1.3V, temp slowly increasing from 85-91c at full load after few minutes then I stopped. Is going to lets say 95c safe? And is it different if I want it to run for 10h+ straight at full load
If you have it running at 95C at full load for few minutes even half hour - i'd say itsok. If on the other hand you need to run it 10h+ at a time I would turn it down.
@@A2KMedia Thank you for answer
Can you make a manual OC guide for the 5600x with various BIOS? Specifically I have MSI and I'm new to this and don't want to screw up lol
Hey, if you have not done it before and are worried - I would recommend against doing it as it can ruin your chip.
been trying to OC my 5600x now for a day and cannot get it stable at all beyond 4.3ghz. I am using an x570 tomahawk mobo, corsair 3200mhz ram kit, an enermax 120mm tower cooler. Running prime 95 and the temps quickly spike to 108 and the computer turns off. I have percision boost on level 2 the core voltage set to 1.25. Beyond that it fails prime in about 3 mins. Maybe I just lost the lotto or there is some other setting I am missing? All in my case - Masterbox TD500 mesh white (3x front fans,1x rear fan all 120mm).
It looks like you likely lost the loto as it gets really hot really quickly. Try pbo instead
5:11 should you minus cpu core voltage with pbo2 enabled. Mine is at 1.488v max with half cores at 4.9 and half at 4.8
Stock 5900x and a stock 3080 Tuf or Strix will still allow me to game and stream at the same time without any performance issues competitively right?
depends what you play using what settings and also at what resolution. I would say if you play most games at 1080p or 1440p then yes. at 4K if you ramp up your settings you may see some issues.
@@A2KMedia I plan to play Apex Legends at 1440p competitive settings. It should be able to handle it and also capping frames at 143 because I'm a controller player. TY for the fast reply btw
@@BlazeNarutoShippuden no probs, I think you will be fine with that
@@A2KMedia TY. I'm still trying my best to get the 5900x and 3080s. Amazon had a 5900x but it was impossible to add it to the cart. 😥
@@BlazeNarutoShippuden I agree it is tough. I head people got ryzen chips direct from AMD too?
So I'm kinda new at this, but what if I wanted to use the 5950x at stock, but when used for rendering workload, I wanted to get the full use out of it, what cpu cooler would be best for this?? thank you.
at stock you actually don't need anything too crazy. a Noctua NHD15 will do really well even for overclocking.
@@A2KMedia That's awesome, thank you, just one more question, is there something comparable with RGB?
@@MaxwellsUnearthly for RGB I'd say you better off go with liquid AIO. We have used fractal design celsius + 240mm and it does well, if you can go with the 360mm. They have an RGB version with prisma fans.
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Thanks!
What about the Prime95 torture test? Is that important to do after a few adjustments?
you can do, but its a bit of an unrealistic test these days for most users as it just tortures the CPU. normally users would only have max load for a limited time.
True life saver, now the system is running so much stable now. One problem though i have 3600mhz g skill sticks and when i set it to 3600mhz it doesnt boot at all but when i set it to 3200 it boots instantly, any tips?
thanks! check if you have the latest bios and on your motherboard website if the kit you have has been tested to work at 3600
@@A2KMedia The thing is it was working at 3600 without the overclocking so im stuck at that but i will check if my mobo is the latest version though!
If it was working then it's likely bios issue.
@@A2KMedia aight bet, thanks my dude.
Hope it all works out for you
What about per-CCX overclocking to get the highest sinlge-core speed and high all-core speeds?
While that still works, the ccx now is two time the size and you are better off going with pbo version 2.
@@A2KMedia Ah, I see. So it's best to use PBO and Ryzen DRAM Calculator and I should be good to go?
Yep
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Another athlete comparison, haha, I like it! Thanks, Captain! 😉
I have set my 5600x to 4.6Ghz with 1.238v stable i can't go like 4.675Ghz or higher because it crashes a lot (bsod)
Hi, I'm don't have a 5000 series but I have the 1000 series so I could be wrong. Is it better to use offset voltage to oc?
It has changed a little and options opened up. While to have higher boost clock you may be ok with voltage offset, but all core OC now is very impressive too.
Very nice work
thanks!
I would love a bit help. My 5950X underpeformer by 40% compaired to other. In R15 and R20 temp at 75.
R20 get like 5600 in multi...
boost jump up and down between 3.8 and 4.7-4.8.
Updated bios Asus croshair hero viii (wifi) to version 3003. Can The fault be The newer bios version?
Under R15/R20, it set auto volt at 1.45v.
Any assistence? 🙈
so the auto voltage seems normal, but the result isnt great. What cooler are you using?
where do you see the individual cores temp in HWInfo? I used to do that with my 9900k but cannot find it with the 5950x
Thanks
at 3:27 you can see it up top
Oh my bad I thought you asked for voltages. No individual core temps on here
@@A2KMedia so is not possible to track individual core temps with amd? I find that odd when trying to compare cores to make sure they are all within range of reach other.
If that is the case, which temp sensor are you using as the overall temp?
Thanks
@@shaolin95 no, not individual temps. if you use ryzen 9 then you can track individual CCDs(6 or 8 core each). We use HWinfo to monitor and here combination between tdie and average between the two CCDs.
@@A2KMedia ok interesting. Things are very different on the AMD team lol. I think it would be helpful to do a detailed Overclocking tutorial as I am sure many new INTEL people are coming to AMD with the 5000 series and feeling a bit lost like me. :)
Thanks for this video, I was able to find my sweet spot this way but I then found that the core clocks would stay up at maximum the whole time. I've heard pros and cons about this. What is the difference between doing it this way or using PBO? thanks
it depends on silicone lottery. Manual overclock has a more granular adjustments, but also relies on you spending the time to do the tweaks.
Overclocking is so confusing! I just got my 5800x. Is it normal for my CPU Voltage to stay at 1.45v while gaming? I look at my Ryzen Master on my second monitor it is always at 1.4 to 1.45v while playing Apex Legends. When I idle at desktop it goes back to 1 to 1.07v. When I move my cursor on desktop randomly super fast CPU Volt go up to 1.4 and stay there however long I keep my mouse moving at rapid speed. Temperature seems to be normal tho at 55 to 60c while gaming and 35-40 while idling. Is this voltage safe when gaming? Thanks in advance
so, the voltage can be very misleading as all hardware monitors check its value every 1 second, at most every half a second. The CPU modulates at 1 millisecond so it could have jumped to 1.45v and then back to 1.2v but not show you at the right time, also hw monitors report last value - what you find in gaming, some cores go to "sleep" and during that time it is likely showing 1.4v even though it is at 0.
Something to check - if your temps are ok and you have not forced high voltage, then you should be alright.
@@A2KMedia Ah I see. Thank you!
Could you please explain why exactly did you chose LLC level 3 ?
it was a bit of a trial and error, but LLC level 3 is a good point to start if you see voltage dip when pushing the cpu
i have a app i can access for my nvidia card or whatever and it gives me the option to overclock and test and it applies saying success has no problem that means i'm in the clar yeah?
I have a new 5900x on Asus x570 gaming board. Default performance was terrible limited by 140 watt. After enabling PBO my results are better but PBO is raising my cores voltage to 1.33V on 24 threads workloads and 1.488v on single threaded benchmarks... Isn't 1.488v way to much voltage for these chips?!
its pretty normal for chip to go 1.488 at single core boosts.
Lol on cinebench my score last time stock with my 5600x x570 was 10392
And right now I'm running it again and it's beating my old score
Closes chips are more expensive than my whole rig
I either won the lottery or something or my gear just really works well together
nice!
@@A2KMedia what's your multi and single scores
My R5 5600x is so stable with everything set to auto I just don't have a desire to overlock it. It jogs through most games on ultra settings anyway. Truly a phenomenal processor.
Nice! But you still have an option in the future which is awesome.
then why'd you watch the video tf
Does auto oc through ryzen master, void my warranty??? I don't want to manually overclock, I just want ryzen master the overclock for me to what is the highest I got get while still staying at a reasonable temperature. This is all for the Ryzen 9 5950X which I have purchased.
Hey, yes it would void your warranty. To be honest 5950x is crazy fast and unless you need that all core constant performance thenn leaving it at stock is probably best.
@@A2KMedia Thank you so much! Great Video!!!!! I heard that the Ryzen 9 5950X can boost single core to well above 4.9Ghz often reaching 5Ghz, I wanted to try that through ryzen master but I did not want to void my warranty.
@@thorium9190 thanks!some of them do, ours here has gone above 5GHz without any OC. It is not doing it all the time but we do see it.
I have the 5600x + 2x8 3200 16cl Trident Z Neo. I just see the ram at 2133 and select 3200 on Asus B550m bios. I didn't turn DOCP on, just auto mode. Is that OK to do? Do I win something turning it on?
I recommend using DOCP to overclock your ram to the rated speed on the box, it will likely have a significant improvement on your performance.
@@A2KMedia CPU-Z says it's running at 1600 (like it should). Should I turn DOCP on anyway?
DOCP does two things - enables the speed but also adjusts the timings. Try to do some benchmarking with both ways and see what seems to do better :)
@@A2KMedia Oh, the cl...right? Thanks for the answer.
@@A2KMedia Yeah. Comparing results in CPU-Z, It changed "Cas" from 22 to 16 now ♥ Thanks for your help.
I had an old ryzen 5 1600af that used to get 4.15ghz stable have a 5600 now haven’t tried to oc it properly yet
I ran my 5 5600x at 1.3v but accidentally put in 45.00 instead of 46.00 and was hovering around 71.8 to 73.4c . This is on a hyper212 evo cooler with 1 fan @ 100%, I am adding another fan. The only reason I say all this is because I switched motherboards and remember running at 4.65 all day with not a single crash and that was when 5000 series first dropped “or around there” and I forgot how I got it there. So.. my question is. With high fidelity gaming at 1440p is a healthy cpu temp suppose to be 63 to 65c or what does one recommend?
that looks good!
@@A2KMedia would it really be this easy if I did
1.3v
46.00
Multiplier
With temps of 70ish in cinebench 3 times without a crash. I heard you mention “ draft ready” I’m just trying to game with this machine that’s it and browse wed when needed. I’ve just never overclocked, I mean. My cpu was on another motherboard recently and the actual bios chip failed so I forgot what I did 2 years ago.
to be honest, you may not even see any impact from the OC for those tasks :)
@@A2KMedialastly, how May one know if they are “stable”
Best way is just to use it.
Late to the party, but i got 28% higher cinebench score by undervolting and underclocking multicore to 4.2@1.1v. My mobo has dynamic oc switch with stilettos fix for pbo. So i get single core boosts up to 4.9@1.5v (auto settings) Max temp for me is 69c, idle 42.
using a dark hero 8. willing to post my bios settings for others to take advantage.
very nice! please share it and also share your CPU model
I take screenshots of bios :) will do it late this evening.
@@A2KMedia 5950x on asus dark hero viii. i run 1.111v@4300 all core oc, 4.9/5ghz single oc. basically all on auto mate. :)
Temps are mid to low 40's. Max load is high 60's. h150i cooler with lm.
undervolting gain performance as well
Nice video. What voltage did you end up at for the 5600x at 4.85?
thanks! 1.35V
@@A2KMedia I'm trying hard to hit 4.8 but i'm not sure what the max voltage should be. I'm also using a 240 aio and temps are okay.
@@Wiz3742 it depends on the chip, I would try to keep it below 1.4. ideally below 1.35
@@A2KMedia What's the benefit of OC through BIOS vs through Ryzen Master?
@@ErwinLiszkowicz the biggest one is ability to tweak load line calibration, you can't do that in ryzen master.
when i turn pbo or go to 4.2ghz oc i get max temps on cinebench r23 up to 90c but it wont go any higher than that and its stable i just dont know if those temps are safe or if should just stay away from OC, using a kraken x73
90c is perfectly normal at full load. what CPU do you have?
@@A2KMedia 5950x, i got to solve my issue, so in Nzxt Cam Software there is a a config to change from cpu to liquid, that helped a lot and then the other thing that helped a lot was turning both PBO and Fmax enhancer, now i can hit 4.6ghz easy and wont go any higher than 70c, anyone reading this and having this issue, try this