Medieval Armor Reproduction Advice Dos & Don'ts + Armets & Great Bascinets
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2022
- Matt JR Lewis and I talk about dos and don'ts of medieval armor reproduction for HEMA, reenactment, living history and bohurt/HMB. Looking at specific examples also of the great bascinet, armet and other armor.
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Matt made some great points in this video, but I thought Matt was equally brilliant.
Really? I thought that Matt was much better than Matt!
@@Messihippi you say that which is fair and all but I feel as if Matt was a bit rather more astute than Matt.
There can be only one...
Please try to stick to the Matter in hand
Oh horseapples! Matt was much more interesting than Matt. I refer of course to the white guy talking about armor. Not the other one.
13:30, When he snaps the helm into place so clean and fast. Impressive, and made me smile! :)
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i think the mental “safeness” that particular armors give is a massively under appreciated aspect of combat, especially when you consider how much routing and moral played in the subject.
Yes. It's kinda like football pads. When you put those pads and helmet on it makes you feel like a tank and all of a sudden you are sprinting all-out and slamming your body into people as hard as you can without a care. You don't worry about breaking your nose or a collarbone, as you are protected. Take a look at rugby tackling vs the NFL, especially the NFL from a few years ago. Rugby guys are just as tough as football players, but they simply CAN'T launch themselves with the level of violence you see in the NFL because they would injure or kill themselves.
My point is that armoring up absolutely does make one feel nigh-invincible when participating in violent activities. I know this because I experienced it, albeit in a far less lethal endeavor.
It would be shocking to me if there wasn't a huge confidence/morale boost in being well-armored on a medieval battlefield. Being (relatively) safe from random arrows and cutting/stabbing implements is so huge. It would allow you to look at what would otherwise be deadly threats as nothing more than weeds to be cut down. A young man, with his natural young-man bravado, raised in a culture that celebrated being valiant much to a much greater degree than today, with his peers around him and his leaders encouraging him is already a potent recipe for countering fear. Now encase him in steel and he will feel unstoppable and will fight with pure aggression and maximum violence.
@@stonecoldscubasteveo4827 Give him some proof, let him have a spear or arrow nick him thru the mail and you have no fear that you can come to real harm.
you are right sir. At the same time there is the trap of feeling TOO safe and taking too many risks and making stupid mistakes the armor can help with forgiveness. A warrior must never forget, even with armor he is still human, he isnt invincible
@@gdlop Agincourt is probably a good example of this!
@@gdlop That comes down to good training.
This may be my new favorite Scholagladiatoria video. I've always wanted something for the beginner describing how to get started. My limited experience to date reflects what was said about fit or the lack there of. My interest lies in the mail, gambeson, brigandine type of armor with appropriate accoutrements and I'm hopeful you will cover this period as well. A list of resources would be helpful since new people really have no reference point from which to start. There are a number of online sources but this rarely produces satisfactory results. Better to pay more once than a lot more with multiple replacement items. I would also suggest you start with the under garments and build from there. You did cover this at the end, but if you are just getting started that's the wrong end. :) Again outstanding video, beautiful equipment.
I'm getting started with my collection soon too, and yeah any resources for that would be appreciated. Especially seeing how the usual armor sources are more limited now since most were in Ukraine.
Thanks for the kind words. To be honest this was far from comprehensive or structured , just an open discussion / toe dip. I regret that I did not mention Shoes and hoes are equally important. ALL the undergarments have to be sorted before you can get measured and they all need to be fit for purpose /specific. I'm sure if we had intended t o approch this in a more structured/formal series then it would have been laid out differently, certainly there is scope to build on this / branch out.
The discussion on arming doublets is fascinating. Getting the arm moving independently of the body can be a challenge on any piece of clothing, and so much of it comes down to quite small differences in the shape of the armscye.
Something to note is the illustration that was made for Matt Lewis' harness and arms. Matt comissioned me to create it so that he could visualise the end result of the harnerss including the sword, spears, and dagger with the surcoat on the cuirass too. Its a good idea to have an overall image of the end result of what you want, because you may think that a curtain spaulder or vambrace wing style might need to be another style. Perhaps the surcoat would need to be a jupon instead... stuff like that. Making those plans before you commit might save some money and time down the line. This can apply to any period or type of event. Even a rough sketch or photo collage can help.
Totally agree Robbie. Why I do this process for all my LH stuff. Sorry didn't give you a shout out this time. I love supporting those who have done great work for me. Its a massive video and mentioning everyone runs the risk of descending into infomercial. I think there's scope in a hypothetical future video to talk about this aspect of the process and showcase.
@@Sorrowshard Ah no worries at all! Yeah, mentioning all the craftsmen who have created your kit would be a long list of shoutouts :) Fantastic video though. I really hope you do another video with Matt in the near future!
@@robbiemcsweeney1318 I think that's the vague intention. We certainly have more to come from this first recording session 😉
I am looking at the second helmet shown. Since the pins can allow the visor to be removed, I can't help but wonder if some fighters might have had multiple visors to fit one of these. The ability to have one as shown and another with more vision and breathing for foot combat. It seems to make sense as it would still be better than no visor at all.
Certainly possible. More often than not visors are removable. There's various practical reasons for this. One of which is the option to change visors yes.
YES! One would think that a simple nose piece as in an ancient Greek helmet would offer a great deal of protection vs the amount of metal in front of one's face. I assume that knights went down not because someone dealt them a killing blow, but because they were swarmed and carried off for ransom. That fate becomes exponentially more likely as a knight tires, so in terms of statistical likelihood of the knight becoming a casualty, a smaller face shield is a net gain. Of course, if it's you, you might have a preference for "not getting stabbed in the face by a lucky pig farmer with a pointy stick" over statistics.
I don’t know of any examples in this period of history, but certainly later on armor had ‘pieces of exchange’ for different combat. The pointed nose (called a pig nose) was to deflect arrows, spears and lances.
As someone with interest and no experience, this video is so helpful. Hats off to your experience and can't wait for more.
Please make more of these, this video was ridiculously helpful and you gave me some very sound advice
I'll never be able to afford such armor, nor have a reason to really, but it's damn interesting to see the progress of the recreation of these old systems.
I'm glad to see it's come so far.
This was fantastic, thank you both.
Many years ago there was a long thread on the Armour Archive talking about the mistakes and problems of starting out as an armourer, it absolutely is still relevant and covers most of the reasons craftspeople are never on time with commissions.
Also I think I have made all the mistakes mentioned in this video and that is why I try my best to help new members to my group avoid them !
Toby Capwell in his book, if I remember correctly, notes that the majority of bascinets on english effigies probably would've had visors, but that the pivots were often not considered important enough to depict. Some probably were visorless however, though as a general trend it's unlikely a large portion of them were.
Excellent vid! Want to see many more of these collabs with Matt!
More now, gimme! 😊
Great points about different craftsmen for different pieces; theres like a meta thing happening where maybe you're discovering not only which type of armor is best for purpose, but what type of acquisition strategy is best. Oddly theres a big cross-over here with drysuits, undergarments, and technical diving harnesses.
This is wonderful and timely for me. I'm looking into a sallet and bevor, to go with my side fastening brigandine, so a discussion of helmet considerations was absolutely perfect. It's a landsknecht specific suit (I'm half Austrian/Bavarian) and it's to go with my kriegsmesser and halberd.
Fantastic video, thank you👍 I purchased some armour from India which was meant to be circa 1500 high end cuirass and faulds which clearly wasn't, but it was 2mm mild steel with straps and had the curves in the right places, so I reconfigured it, used a bit of brute force and encouragement and have something which fits a mercenary of the time... I think. I learnt my lesson though and will not go cheap again, Also, consider budget when deciding what level of soldier you want to recreate, just as then, generally speaking, the more bespoke the armour, the more it costs. The beautiful thing is that generally uniform was not a thing, so there's room for every possible configuration, as long as it's historical or near as dammit.... and even that's just my opinion. Thanks again, great collaboration 👍
Great video loved it thanks for all the hard work making these videos love them
Great discussion....really enjoy these long form videos
Beautiful video, very well done
I just love the style and design of the close helm, in my opinion they are so iconic and the pinnacle of the armourers craft.
Love that Armet, haven't seen that joint with the openings that lift up like that. Really cool.
Thank you both for the video it was really informative ⚔️
Scarey really, to think you would be face to face, or as close as you can get too your opponent. And bash, crush, stab, or bludgeon your enemy too bits.
Then you need the best Amour you can afford, fascinating really.lovelly vid again.
We all understand what a huge pain it is to record and edit such long videos but you need to understand how very much we appreciate them.
Yes, this was a toe-dip but it dipped into many aspects of armor acquisition (some of which apply today - there are tailors who can make suit jackets cut to allow you to fight without restriction for example).
Interesting that there are armorer's in Ukraine, I didn't know that. I have been finding out through honby-related RUclips videos how many such niche industries are located there. Ironic that current events could interfere with that particular niche industry.
Also, it was amusing that today, in the United States I got an ad for rifle proof body armor hosted by Kentucky Ballistics. The Great Algorithm seems to have a sense of humor.
Ukraine and Russia have a lot of great armours that have sadly parted contact.
the likes of ruclips.net/user/ArmorySmithWorkshop are good.
Rifle-proof body armour.
Ain't no such thing for people. Oh there's armour that will stop rifle rounds at longer distances but at shorter distances where more muzzle velocity is retained? Forget about it.
@@davidpnewton Never heard of level IV body armor, I take it?
@@markfergerson2145 that's an interesting discussion isn't it.
Level III body armour will stop 7.62 NATO rounds with a velocity of 2,780 ft/s. Up to six rounds thereof. Level IV body armour will stop one round and one round only.
So level III armour will deal with service rifle hits to a large degree, but it won't deal with many sniper rifles. There's also the trade-off that always comes with armour: weight and mobility.
However each and every hit will degrade the armour and concentrated fire will defeat it.
So I was indeed wrong to a degree.
@@davidpnewton Strictly speaking the "one round" spec is an absolute minimum. There's armor on the market that will stop more.
Don't feel bad about not knowing about level IV. Just as in medieval times, arms and armor evolve. They do so rather faster these days so it's harder to keep up. I only know what I know because I'm trying to be a writer and do a lot of research into the topic. There's still more I don't know that what I do know of course.
There's also still a difference between hard and soft armor just as in medieval days, plus there's now more than one kind of hard armor. Lightweight soft armor like kevlar can stop some threats heavier hard armor can't *if* it's way thicker, and ceramic armor of a given thickness can often stop threats hardened steel armor the same thickness can't, but only once.
There's also the fact that soft armor may catch the bullet but only after creating a wound full of kevlar fibers and the caught bullet for a surgeon to remove.
Modern armor tech is at least as filled with nuances and compromises as medieval armor was. Weight, cost, availability, protection level, ease of use and in many cases concealability were and still are major considerations to be weighed against each other.
I have blathered too much, but I could go on all day. ;)
Great video, a lot of info, brilliant
Im gonna have to finish this one later. Im quite fascinated
So glad I stumbled across this and all the associated channels, just because I was ch caking out one of my favourite places, The Wallace Collection, must pop up there next week for another fix!
Amazing details-- thanks.
Our pleasure!
I so like houndskull visors on armets. Some really nice helmets.
I am a fan of the 1380s or so. I wear a full maile shirt under my corrazina(breastplate back and fauld). I can really really see the reason for voiders. LOL. Although, It is much easier to wear with a single piece breastplate as again I am cutting out half the weight and a third of the armouring time for my torso. I would say that in Germany where warfare seemingly localised and almost sorta casual I think often your ability to quickly armour up, maybe more important than a massive amount of protection over the whole body.
Just received a big ole pembridge helm. Vision is really good out of the multitude of small breaths. I have a bascinet to use underneath it and intend also to get a kettle helmet.
I have always wanted a harness, but I will probably never be able to afford one. Still. Really appreciate this video, your and Matt Lewis' time. Would really appreciate a video with someone who is feminine-bodied because that's an additional hurdle.
Funnily enough, 14th-15th century armour suits women's bodies very well, as a key element is to create the 'wasp waist' look. This is more of a problem for large-bodied men, than for most women - the effect of a good arming doublet is similar to a corset.
A bit late for #Lindybeige , but we all move forward at our own pace & experience.PS you are both great tubers.
I LOVE that great bascinet. I find the style very interesting, leaving the neck safe and unburdened and allowing superior vision and breathing as it does. Seems nearly ideal for the front-fighter in formation. It sounds like hitting the floor in one and getting up comfortably may be more a question of practicing rolling or moving into position to stand up without being able to fully cast one's glance all around. I would very much like to learn more about how great basicinets fit, function, and how much one can move his head inside of one (ive already seen knyght errant's superb video). At the end of the day, it probably isn't going to be the best for dispersed combat/skirmishing or extremely chaotic situations, but within its envelope, the great bascinet is excellent. Additionally, I wonder how it compares to sallets with bevors fixed to the cuirass. Is mobility similar? If so, the great bascinet, outside of adding to overall harness weight, might be better due to the protection of the neck and how it distributes its weight.
The rest of the info was fantastic, too. Thank you both for taking the time to present your gear and thoughts to us.
Hi chap, quite a bit of stuff about Great bascinets , Including another (truly excellent) reproduction and Dr. Capwells observations from wearing one in his 1st book we mentioned in the video, and I would encourage everyone to start there.
@@mattlewis4553 Thank you, Matt! I own Toby's books and if I ever get an armor, it'll be because of him and the style will *have* to be English, ha! Here's hoping the part 3 pre-orders build up enough to have it printed soon!
Ps: maybe you'll collaborate with Mr. Easton again when your harness is finished to the standard of your superb taste 👌
@@45calibermedic Good taste is as much a blessing as a curse... My harness was 'finished' some time ago. I was never happy with it as a whole and to be completely honest the experience really ruined everyhting for me. Long story... Sadly I have had to step away and focus on other projects / periods with time/money being finite. You'll be pleased to hear ufrther calloboration with Matt is planned. Perhaps you have seen the recently published sword & scabbard video we did together ?
@@mattlewis4553 I did and I must say your scabbard are exquisite. Very inspirational for me as I plan to make a scabbard for my Albion Huskarl eventually. First one in plain wood to practice making a core and for simple storage and transport, then a good one leather-bound with nice fittings. I'm sorry about the armor, though. Your helmet is absolutely beautiful. The English style of great basicnet with less rounded skull avoids the lollipop shape that some have. I also find that on your arming sword, the bold blade/cross and geometric detail of the pommel in contrasting color delightful. I'll look forward to more!
@@45calibermedic I sold a Huskarl , but I'm sorta a third of the way into a scabbard for a heavily upgraded Baleur type H Viking sword myself. My great Bascinet is for sale as it happens.
Hello. Love this channel, thank you for your dedication to the history, craft, and art. Just wondering, do you ever design your own armour?
Do stay close to the historical shapes and design of the plates. Those shapes are the ergonomic ones, so you don't have to fight your armor as well as your opponent.
I've tried it the other way. It didn't work.
Nice. I’m looking forwards to this video. Time to press play.
Finally, the man, the myth, the legend.
If you want an on time, high quality sword Tim at Heron Armory is a go to.
This comment seems to bear no relevance to this particular video? I know Tim quite well. He's also good at Early medieval helmets too (which is vaguely relevant to the video)
The one thing you left out is to talk to people who have armor you like. Their experience will be a huge help! Also read the rules of whatever combat group you belong to. Many require a certain thickness of metal in helmets, and regulate the size of eye slots.
It's a good point . We already got upto an hour with this, its such a dense topic it could only really be covered by multiple videos and I'm certain were/if we to get into more in the series this would certainly come up.
The second helm, the armet with the beak/hounskull type look, is amazing. Who made it or where can it be purchased?
This is EXACTLY the video I need! Matt out here to save me some cash!
Thank God my Era is from 1000 to 1150...
All I need is a sturdy gambeson, a nice nasal helmet and mail (in addition to mail mittens or leather gloves).
Heavy fighting in such armor is off course not possible for safety reasons, unless you get modern underarmor.
Buying mail really is difficult, because even a cheap, off the shelf riveted haubark is several 100 euros and it's from India. You can off course do it like I plan to do (and how several of my friends do it) and make it yourself. But that might take years to complete. Several mediaval clubs in my surroundings have their own "sarwürker" - Mail smiths, who do this as a hobby.
Even mail armor needs to be well fitted to give you a proper mobility to weight ratio. I am a large guy and an off the shelf haubark is larger than I need, has not the amount of fitting in the armpits and elbows needed to give you proper mobility AND is still at 17kg.
That's why my knee long, rivited haubark will take me years to complete. But hey. That's part of the hobby isn't it.
Hats off to ! you just for fun made a butted long sleeve shirt and it took me a couple of years thanks to an intermission in armpit hell
When I learned how, buying rings commercially was not an option, so butted maille made from galvanized fencing wire was the standard. A couple friends in high school working together could turn out a vest of butted in 2 weeks over the summer vacation. Working around school/work and committing all my remaining free time to it, my butted full hauberk took about a year. At a guess, making the rings was about 1/3 - 1/2 of that time. I haven’t done any work with riveted, but maybe some day…
Hi Matt, do you know how far back that the pins on the helmet data to? I'm curious but google hasn't helped.
huge thanks.
I'd absolutely love to see an example of an English great bascinet from the late 1460s to early 1470s, I'm basing my gear on the battle of Tewkesbury timeframe but would like to do a display on knightly sports and jousting.
Have a look at the Beauchamp Pageant manuscript - there are a few examples there.
I hope I can buy some good armour someday. A modest, fairly doable goal I have for the near future is a HEMA gambeson and a heater shield from steel mastery, and a machine made chainmail tunic from ringmesh. Far from your full suit of historically accurate tailored plate and maile, but it's what I can do. And I could get more things over time.
Wonderful stuff!
As a middle-class American, my best bet for getting that holy grail 1430's Kastenbrust harness might be to be reincarnated as a wealthy 15th century German person...
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I often wonder, what is that symbol for on, many, of your shirts -- kinda a "u" partially over it's upside down copy? i.e. @ this show's 57:24.
That's the logo for UnderArmor.
surprisingly enough my first commission was started early and was finished within a week after it was started, he said a month but it may have only been 2 weeks to get to
I thought it was funny when Matt said this was a multi-part mini video series. Since Matt doesn't usually do what I would consider a mini video, at 5 to 10 minutes, I checked the length of the video and saw it was almost 1 hour long... 😂 Upon saying the length of the video I thought that that was more like what I expected 😎
So for the armet, would that style of visor be a “houndskull” type, then? Never saw one mounted on an armet, since it’s such a classically bascinet visor shape.
Kind of - some of the early armet visors are described as sparrow beak visors. Essentially yes they come from bascinet visors, but are smaller because the area they cover is smaller than a typical bascinet, because the cheek pieces cover the jawline already.
I'm pretty sure having armor made is a bit out of my price range so I guess I'm going to stick with inexpensive mail. Besides, the likelihood of my needing a full harness is a bit of a stretch. Thank you Matt and Matt for an extremely informative video.
Something I have wondered about, would it have been possible for a soldier, (Say a professional?) to have mix and match armour, different styles / different periods (Not separated by hundreds of years of course). I was thinking along the lines of a jacket from one locality, helmet from another, gloves from another etc.
I would think that that's likely! Given that the client is well travelled and particularly picky :p
Hi!!! ScholaGladiatora, What could be the best hand weapon for disrupt an alien home invasor??🤔
If he's alien enough to need a space suit, something sharp.
Or a rifle.
For some reason, I had read you were going to be joined by Matt Lucas. I am dissapointed and relieved at the same time.
"Varying degrees of late" all to true for anything custom in armor or weapons. I think my closest custom piece was 6 weeks late my worst, over a year at worst.
When armor was commissioned from a variety of specialists, how was the style and aesthetic of a suit coordinated? Were there in essence general contractors who coordinated everything?
The point being that most workshops 'were' a group of specialists overseen by a master armourer. Otherwise I tend to think you are perhaps buying xyz smiths gauntlets because you like the gauntlets he makes, abc's helmet that you saw and liked and so on. It is also going to be driven by regional style, and as it is now for a customer . If you have a clear idea of what you want you could get it made or would probaly know someone that makes something similar.
The Knight Errant channel has been dead for two years.
Makes me kinda sad.
@@Adam_okaay Me too. That was excellent content.
@@PieterBreda ironically he posts a lot on his personal fb
Although the criteria is quite different, in many ways, modern motorcyclists will share many of these pains. Although the threats to your body are much more clear and present, the difficulty of finding quality items that fit, perform the functions you want, and for a fair price is something of an dark art.
My expensive hobby's started with Motorbikes. I hear what you are saying. I do find it much easier to get bike kit. there are any number of suppliers and brands, returns are easy and once you know your sizes and 'brands' it gets much easier. When everyhting is hand made, hard to get in short order and subject to the foibles of natural materials /crafts its an order of magnitude more challenging. I do think it's less of a 'culture shock' tfor a motorcyclist and you are certainly more accustomed to discomfort ....
Look at how long armor was in use. And how wide spread. Chances are very slim that an armorer is going to know everything about the specific pieces you want.
Matt refers to the aventail being replaced with "hardened steel plates" at around the 6 minute mark, I'm really curious what the definition of "hardened steel plates" is in this historical context? When getting your armor made do you shop for a specific heat treatment?
From a historical context 'hardened' is kinda a can of worms really. 'hardened' in this case just means there has been some form of steel with sufficient carbon content used, its been hardened and heat treatment has at least been attempted. Obviously on the repro we used modern steel and a typical 'springy' heat treat. I just meant that the 'soft' ventail is replaced with rigid defence in this case. ideally hardened/treated maybe not ...
The majority of armour in c.1415 was probably iron, or the equivalent of mild steel. However, since the 1300s some of the best armour was hardened steel (carbon steel by modern standards, as you cannot quench harden mild steel). So these neck plates could be anything from iron/mild steel, to unhardened carbon steel, to hardened carbon steel in c.1415. This is covered in my recent video about armour testing with Augusto.
A question? If you are getting things done a piece at time what order do you buy them in?
It depends on the context of your question ... Here we are talking about buying a complete armour but different parts from differnt makers. You could at least hypothetically kick it all off at the same time (dependant on waiting lists) if you are talking about buying a piece at a time for budgetary constraints there isn't exactly a strict order , but some parts work together and have to be made at the same time to some degree, depending on the style/period of the armour.
Any recommendations on where to buy a arming doublet where you can visit for fittings?
In the UK ? It's kinda difficult as discussed. You could see if The Medieval Rats are taking orders. Or If you can't find anyone, AD1410 in Poland does some of the best Doublets going and gets a good result without having to be present. Youll just need to be really careful /get some help with the measuring...
The shoulders should have some ease to them; the waist rather more snug to hold your leg harness up. More comfortable than hanging that much weight from a belt.
ETA: Unless that belt is wide enough to mostly cover your abdomen when donned. This is close to a skeletonizing of an armyng-doublet, and suits bohurt type games. All the more so if you fit shoulder straps to it, medieval Sam Browne-ish. This is if your kit doesn't have voiders. But if ventilation's more important...
get a small camera with a fisheye lens to put inside helmets to show what the wearer sees--and how little. :P
Hi. I’m currently saving to buy a full harness. I do HEMA and want to use my harness in full contact fighting. I was looking at using White Rose Armouries. Can you recommend White Rose Armouries?
Dave is one of the best armourers working in the UK, old school. (There is a conversation to be had about the general state of armourers in the UK but I'm not going to get into that here) For full contact stuff , some of the Buhurt places are a good cost effective bomb proof choice IMO. It does depend on some other factors, like how quickly you want it , how long you might be willing to wait and so on.
*and budget
Thanks for the response. Willing to wait and willing to save more for long lasting high quality
Have you heard of gretirs gauntlets pcross yhe pond there and if so what do you think of them .????
They describe the type in the RUclips, without mentioning brand names. Well suited for SCA/Bohurt/rattan baton playing, and very durable.
who made your arming doublet? I have never had one I have been particularly happy with
I can recommend AD1410
@@mattlewis4553 Cool. That's actually who I as looking at. Thanks!
Hi Matt,
Thanks for this. I have some questions that are a bit off-topic, regarding the effects that wearing armor has on the wearer. I do not have any experience wearing plate armor at all.
So I am curious, if you have 100% of your situational awareness, before you put a bascinet on, roughly by what percentage would you estimated that your awareness drops, after donning the bascinet? I realize that it depends on the type of armor and the period etc., but if you were just to average suits of armor in a particular period, like say the 14th century what would the degree of lost situational awareness be, just from your Personal experience?
Then, if you were to put the visor down, how much more of that Initial 100% of situational awareness, would you estimated is lost?
I would imagine it is not just vision that you lose, but you cannot hear nearly as well either correct?
In addition, I am curious, using the same rudementary yardstick of 100%, what the same level of reduction would be for your mobility?
Finally, using the same imperfect scale of 100% when unarmored, what is the effect/impact of restricted breathing in combat on your endurance and how much would you say your longer term non-fighting endurance is imoacted by carrying the weight and bulk around all day? Cheers!
This is alot to unpack, its probably a subject for a whole conversation. There are many variables to consider and it's a context thing too, we don't grow up wearing armour we rarely wear it all day, few people train 'Hard' in/for it. So any answers are personal/subjective at best.
@@Sorrowshard Yes, I do indeed realize all of that.
It would be a huge topic to cover generally let alone adequately or exhaustively. I am only looking for some general, on-average, rough answers on the subject, that I might use as a rule of thumb.
I would also certainly never quote anything that someone said on the subject or hold them to it. All that goes beyond my purview, as I am not involved in social media, beyond watching Matt, Tod and a few others, who cover such topics.
My central focus would be for generating a somewhat realistic "look and feel" within the context of my own pen & paper RPGs, which are not for commercial use. I am far too old to go out and run around in those suits, whacking and being whacked by my friends with all sorts of medieval weapons in order to build the data points that I need.
I just would like to get a general idea.
@@manfredconnor3194 To even answer your first few questions in a broad/general terms involves a fair bit of writing/context Especially if you are thinking in terms of RPG mechanics. This is more of a forum board open topic/discussion IMO
@@Sorrowshard Well, that is like your opinion man. Maybe I will get lucky and someone else will be more forthcoming.
That Henry the eighth armour reminds me a lot of House of Dragons pauldrons. In fact, the chest piece too. Isn't that modern period, rather than medieval?
Your not pronouncing French words with French pronunciations kept knocking me out of the project I was working on while this was on. ET endings have an "ay" sound. :P
This makes me wonder how encumbering and restricting large orders of munition grade plate harness must have been when worn.
Who would you recommend if you want a good quality and functional fantasy armour?
Functional and fantasy are too often diametrically opposed.
But which fantasy do you have in mind? For instance, stay away from the playing-card hauberks from _Braveheart._ (You can't move well enough in them.)
The bots are having a field day, I see lots more of them now than I used to
Who's effigy are you getting copied for your next armor, Matt?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of the Japanese 6-in-1 mail, as opposed to the 4-in-1 design used in the rest of the world?
Japanese mail was generally used as sleeves upon the arms, with considerable decoratively treated small solid pieces approximately like scales, but always spread over the extent of the sleeves. They seemed to think of their mail more as a structure to hold these 'rafts' as they called them.
They were quite intrigued by Western mail-shirts and their 4-1 weave. They dubbed it 'southern barbarian chain.'
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Thanks for the info.
Oh wow , beautiful craftsmanship , I feel like a kid again look at these: romanticizing wearing this armor on a battlefield.
Well I now know where the 'beakie' design of the original space marine armour came from
Don’t have sex in armor. Don’t swim in armor. Don’t run downhill in armor . Don’t sunbathe in armor. Don’t shit your armor. The list is long
The most important is missing. Don't get killed in mail.
Don't have sex in armor?
Wheres the fun in that!?
Matt you need to get a second camera to film examples while to talk. Woudl have been great in this episode.
Errr Matt I know it's not your area of expertise but Gull-Wing Doors are a Mercedes thing. Lambos have... well... Lambo doors.
I've always thought that the great basinet would be built to pivot and hinge rather than being locked in place to the neck to allow the head to tilt and turn. If this were done the joints, pivot points and sliding tracks would be hidden on the inside. Am I wrong to assume that this was done?
Nearest thing is a 'standing collar' and it seems this type of locked in place construction was preferred and sticks around the longest.
@@Sorrowshard I appreciate the comment. Also, love your screen name.
@@solonaravanroth8759 Thanks. As Matt says , we're on some kinda spectrum and I gave my insta/screen name a deal of careful consideration.
My current dream kit is a 16th C jack of plates. At my age and activity level, I’m unlikely to loose enough weight to make a real go of it.
Which helmet, would you think?
I guess the visibility is needed to compensate the neck brace visibility loss
I have a question. For an English knight in the 15th century would it be historically correct to have breaths on both sides of the helmet? Or more so than other regions due to their preference for foot combat?
I’m having a commission done by Jeff Wasson himself in under 2 years. I don’t wear my helmet outside barring Halloween and don’t want to sacrifice historical authenticity to make it easier to put candy in a bag one day out of the year
Shame, mine is for sale right now ;) 15th c is a big place, armour changes significantly... Plenty of depictions of symmetrical breaths. I'd refer you to T. Capwells books for detailed refs. For me, depicting a knight who would have fought on foot at Agincourt (It was the English specialty) , the extra visibility and oxygen is a fairly compelling proposition , especially with no head mobility. ...
@@mattlewis4553 wish I could scoop up both but it’s not in the cards for me. This bascinet is going to cost nearly $6,000; I have an extremely discerning taste when it comes to armour. Thank you for the help though
@@mattlewis4553 The armet is for sale? I'm interested to know more!
@@Blasphemous1980 Not the Armet sorry. It's the Great Bascinet available.
unrelated but I think you should do some reaction videos to the armor and weapons from dark souls and elden ring
There is tweaking, there is adjusting ( you change your armour has to as well), then there is getting something completely different than what was agreed upon.
The Hell LLoyd has been and is going through, with his harness, ... lets say i would have called my attorney and had several lawsuits going. Happened on something unrelated to armour, ended up owning and having to sell a small business. Bad blood all around, as you can imagine, but some things have to be done.
So if you order your armour and wear it regularly, Will you beef up enough to outgrow your armour?
Not really no, the weight should be well distributed (and probably not as heavy as you might think...) so it's more of a tone & cardio /endurance improvement you would expect.
The real risk is porking up rarlther than beefing up... modern times.
This might be out of left field but, going through your content, a year ago you said you were working on a "gaming project" that we would enjoy. I havent found any other referenece to it! What ever happened to that?
Nikolas Lloyd, aka Lindybeige could have found this topic useful a few years ago judging by his most recent rant !
When matt is smiling he looks just like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit
I thought the head turns in the camailed pig face basc looked remarkably Muppet-like. Kermit, specifically.
they have the legs guy, he makes the legs, he'll take care of your legs, and if you don't pay in time he'll take his 5Ib hammer to your legs. He sorts out the legs.
Its arguably worse if you don't pay 'Head guy' on time...
@@Sorrowshard arguably the best fellow to have beside you in a scrap if you find yourself fighting alongside the armourers guild.
LOOK AT THIS TRICEP OF A SMITH'S RIGHT ARM!
How much in general would an English Basinett like that cost ?
Its for sale actually ...
Can you give me an idea of the price ?
@@michaelwhite8031 It owes me about £1500/$1700 In the current buying environment It's up for grabs for around £1200 /$1400
I am sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I have been trying hard to scrape the money together. I could only raise £700 so l will have to get back to you in the future to see if you still have it. Sorry.
@@michaelwhite8031 Its not exactly flying off the shelf atm chap everyone either has no money or the wrong size /shape head or vice versa. Feel free to drop me a line IF/when you have the cash It may well still be around as I'm not really pushing it.
Well the siren call of experts, I don’t know enough. Or there’s the context……
Sounds like motor racing requiring constant attention. 😀😀😀
Shame you couldn't have shown this to Lindybeige before he ordered his
Knyght Errant hasn't posted any new videos in YEARS.
RIP the queen
Show us your harness already, Matt! You've teased us for far too long!!!
99th!
Silliness, isn't it wonderful?