Ravel PAVANE for a dead PRINCESS - Analysis tutorial

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @SonataSecrets
    @SonataSecrets  2 года назад +10

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  • @davidstringer8711
    @davidstringer8711 2 года назад +41

    As a 71 yo who has been playing only 6 years, I want to let you know how much I am enjoying your brilliant theory analyses!! I learn so much and in such an interesting way. Well done!!

  • @neutral_puma845
    @neutral_puma845 4 года назад +92

    Thank you for this. You should do more Ravel , you're brilliant with him!

  • @adriancohen9911
    @adriancohen9911 4 года назад +47

    Bravo! This is a great starting point for any amateur classical pianist looking to play this beautiful piece. Henrik does a great job on discussing the form and harmony, and he has some very helpful tips for technique and fingering. Although is 20 minutes, it moves along at a steady pace, and Henrik plays everything while he explains, so it's very engaging, and I felt that it was very worthwhile to watch the entire video. Henrik has some great insights on the emotional character of the piece and its history, and the sheet music overlay is very helpful also. Thanks for a great tutorial on this piece, Henrik!

  • @bobanderson3134
    @bobanderson3134 4 года назад +31

    Loved the analogy at the end about the registers, what a unique interpretation!

  • @colinspill9271
    @colinspill9271 4 года назад +24

    Love this piece, it's always nice to get deeper into analysing.
    Btw I noticed that Ravel and Debussy often write things on the sheet that cannot really be translated, it actually makes me glad to be french to understand things like "en élargissant" ; "d'une sonorité large" or in Debussy's Children corner "doux et un peu gauche"

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +14

      Yes, Ravel and Debussy insist on writing everything in French and not the normal music Italian. I have only school French but that's helpful enough.

    • @ruthiebelle1
      @ruthiebelle1 3 года назад +3

      I found this just wanting to hear the Pavane. It is totally fascinating, and I don’t have a piano anymore. Who is this gentleman and marvelous musician?
      I absolutely loved his insights and manner of explanation. Great teacher.

  • @olivierherment1188
    @olivierherment1188 Год назад +1

    Thank You. I am not pianist but it's so benefit to watch your video

  • @vegetator
    @vegetator 4 года назад +5

    Hello from Korea
    I really appreciate this video
    Thanks

  • @PianistStefanBoetel
    @PianistStefanBoetel 4 года назад +10

    Looking for student's repertoire. This is a true gem, thank you, Henrik!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +2

      Thanks! (although I would say this is still for quite advanced students)

    • @PianistStefanBoetel
      @PianistStefanBoetel 4 года назад +2

      @@SonataSecrets Yes, she plays currently La Cathedrale by Debussy. La Pavane would be a good sequel.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +4

      In that case definitely!

  • @handznet
    @handznet Год назад +3

    This is just an insanely beautiful piece. Also when orchestrated

  • @henryahlstrom896
    @henryahlstrom896 Год назад +1

    i am so glad I found this guidance for Ravel's Pavane. What is missing for me in this guidance is a bit more on how to use the pedal.

  • @hatchegg80
    @hatchegg80 Год назад +1

    thank you, i've never been so excited about learning a piece!

  • @TheAlbiCollier
    @TheAlbiCollier 3 месяца назад +2

    Such a mesmerising piece! Thank you for your explinations.

  • @robertgainer2783
    @robertgainer2783 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very useful video. The candles were rather superfluous, but the musical content was excellent. Thank you!

  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong1281 2 года назад +2

    These videos with their insightful and highly professional presentations are each and every one as much a gem as the piece of music under examination.

  • @phaserfull
    @phaserfull Год назад +1

    I always loved this music. . . .now better than before, thanks for your job.

  • @chino_jap0nes
    @chino_jap0nes 3 года назад +5

    I learned some basic music theory a while back, so I can follow your analyses for the most part. I’ve been getting more and more into classical and your videos, among others, have really been opening my mind (really my ears) to form and the more intricate details of this music. Details the average listener would never consider.
    I really think these kinds of videos have a lot of potential to get people into classical music. it’d be great if some organization funded them, I’d say a city’s orchestra/music department or something but from the little bit I know most of them struggle to begin with. Maybe if a population of classical enthusiasts could be educated and developed then the funding party/ies could see some returns and invest even more but who knows. So in this case it would fall on us, the viewers. I can’t at the moment but I promise that when I can I’ll definitely contribute to y’all’s channels.
    Awesome video btw, I’ve only watched this and the gymnopedies 1 analyses but I have a lot more to watch. When you look at Ravel again please analyze Forlane from le tombeau de couperin, it’s absolutely beautiful and has a nightmarish twist near the end that just kills me!

  • @benwinstanleymusic
    @benwinstanleymusic 6 месяцев назад +2

    Incredible video, thank you so much! One of my favourite pieces of music ever, it's so haunting and I always find myself coming back to it. You're a really wonderful teacher, and your love for the music really shines through. Have a great day :))

  • @jarrodsio
    @jarrodsio 7 месяцев назад +1

    thank you for the excellent playing and explanation.

  • @irinatsernikova3043
    @irinatsernikova3043 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you! Very interesting

  • @gabrielrueda9085
    @gabrielrueda9085 2 месяца назад +1

    grate work. thanks

  • @gnuzz
    @gnuzz 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love the sound of your piano, jealous!

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 4 года назад +9

    Damn, this was very helpful because I will have to learn that piece for my piano test so I can enter in the Superior Conservatory.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +4

      Thanks! I wish you good luck with the test! (and suggest a lot of only right hand practice for the melody+chords sections ;)

    • @Ivan_1791
      @Ivan_1791 4 года назад +1

      @@SonataSecrets Thanks. :)

  • @dehrk9024
    @dehrk9024 20 дней назад

    beautiful peice & beautiful person explaining it

  • @dehrk9024
    @dehrk9024 20 дней назад

    i just heard this on spotify, looked up the midi and played it, and now im the first time understanding that you can disect a peice like that and all these notes have theory and names... :O

  • @leonsolo01
    @leonsolo01 2 года назад +2

    Fascinating

  • @jerrys_milk
    @jerrys_milk 4 года назад +3

    This is so great! I'm lucky that you posted this lovely analysis a week before I started learning this piece!!

  • @marilynchapman2697
    @marilynchapman2697 3 года назад +2

    I absolutely loved your tutorial. I am working on this piece - a long time favourite.

  • @tahabirben8649
    @tahabirben8649 Год назад +1

    Amazing interpretation. Thank you

  • @janetwitman
    @janetwitman 2 года назад +1

    I so enjoyed your presentation, Henrik!

  • @fionanogawa1730
    @fionanogawa1730 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for such inspiring teaching

  • @emilerose1424
    @emilerose1424 2 года назад +2

    Beautifully done! Well and clearly explained. Keep it up!

  • @dehrk9024
    @dehrk9024 20 дней назад

    it is REALLY BEAUTIFUL indeed!

  • @alexwang9650
    @alexwang9650 2 года назад +1

    All of your videos are very informative. I like the history and non music parts a lot!

  • @JPVillalobos27
    @JPVillalobos27 Месяц назад

    Really great analysis. Thank you!

  • @hyun6369
    @hyun6369 Год назад +1

    thank you so much!!

  • @LuliLulu
    @LuliLulu 4 года назад +3

    I love your channel Im learning a lot on my favourite pieces even though I am not from a musical background 😌 thank you

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад

      Thanks, I'm so happy to hear that! :)

  • @tomphson94
    @tomphson94 3 года назад +1

    where were you this all time? great video and great piece of music. Thanks!

  • @mobinakhajehnezhad9237
    @mobinakhajehnezhad9237 2 года назад +1

    so wonderful and useful .... thanks for explaining it in the best way.

  • @paolovolante
    @paolovolante 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great! Thanks...

  • @jukeskei655
    @jukeskei655 3 года назад

    Excellent analysis now its more clear beside those who are more confused
    From South Africa

  • @shshsho28
    @shshsho28 2 года назад +2

    Amazing content! I love this🥺 Thank you for this great lesson

  • @mizukioyama7892
    @mizukioyama7892 3 года назад +1

    So wonderfully explained. Very helpful. I just started working on this piece a few weeks ago and am in love!

  • @nicholasbouloukos
    @nicholasbouloukos 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this! Wonderfully played and explained. I think your clear explanations of the chord movements and functions make it easier for a wider variety of players to relate to the tutorial. Great job

  • @gertzpalma
    @gertzpalma Год назад +1

    THANKS!

  • @tomarmstrong1281
    @tomarmstrong1281 3 года назад +2

    You are a very accomplished pianist. Your deep knowledge of the subject is fascinating, musicians and non-musicians alike.

  • @mattiascross1417
    @mattiascross1417 4 года назад +2

    Thankyou for this great video! Amazing how Ravel used Jazz before Jazz was invented

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +1

      I realized when editing that it's called jazz harmony but not when I was recording... :p
      Yeah, he was early with it. He also wrote a "Blues" as the 2nd movement of his violin sonata, right in the middle of the styles.

    • @mattiascross1417
      @mattiascross1417 4 года назад +1

      @@SonataSecrets I'll have to learn it for piano! XD

  • @davidkettlewell829
    @davidkettlewell829 3 года назад +2

    I am a former classical vocalist, world level expert on some instruments, and currently studying to become a composer. Your videos are such a great help to me...I learn about structure of music, technique of play, and artistic presentation. Thank you so much for these videos. I did not attend music school...and you see, I learn from you.

  • @Jbgoat
    @Jbgoat 4 года назад +2

    very interesting analysis !

  • @meestweeduizend8893
    @meestweeduizend8893 8 месяцев назад +1

    I know the video was uploaded 3 years ago, but does anyone know why there are crosses through the lowest notes of the right hand in the “reprenez le movement” part?

  • @mariannegast4391
    @mariannegast4391 4 года назад +2

    great playing as well, very poised

  • @fisiolg
    @fisiolg 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for these pedagogical insights about a piece that I have loved for a long time and want to master one day.

  • @Dreamwalker44
    @Dreamwalker44 4 года назад +1

    I really dont know anything about playing music but your analysis videos about the music i like is really interesting to me.^^ (also the parts where you state similarities with him, Debussy and Satie here were just so correct in my opinion. I love these three composers so much ^_^)

  • @luigivercotti6410
    @luigivercotti6410 3 года назад +3

    6:32 actually, half-diminished 7th (the one with the ø)

  • @pollytan6030
    @pollytan6030 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, Mr. Kilhamn. You are a wonderful teacher. Now I'll be able to appreciate this piece of music much, much more.

  • @savo1599
    @savo1599 3 года назад

    So much appreciation ❤️🌹

  • @cylnx4174
    @cylnx4174 4 года назад +1

    Great video! Thanks for uploading :)

  • @jonnierman3954
    @jonnierman3954 4 года назад +1

    So great!!!

  • @lm9091
    @lm9091 4 года назад +2

    Amazing analysis as Always! It would be awesome if you could do an analysis on his Miroir "Oiseaux tristes"

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Lucas! I played Oiseaux tristes in my academy audition program back in the days but I haven't touched it since for some reason. It's a really cool, wierd piece...

  • @damoon57
    @damoon57 4 года назад +1

    I enjoy watching your videos ☀️💗

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад

      Glad you like them! :)

    • @damoon57
      @damoon57 4 года назад

      @@SonataSecrets do you have a video about Chopin etude op 10 no 1 !? About the harmony progression

  • @MegaTafira
    @MegaTafira 4 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @reynaldochua539
    @reynaldochua539 4 года назад +1

    Nice!

  • @jamesonrichards5105
    @jamesonrichards5105 3 года назад +4

    What is grief if not love preserving.

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 4 года назад +3

    I've never heard this piece by Ravel. But it is a nice piece. The slow dance feel and countervoices reminds me of the Baroque Sarabande.
    Sarabande from Bach's French Suite in C minor: ruclips.net/video/yTKdtfk5j4Q/видео.html
    Sarabande from Bach's French Suite in D minor: ruclips.net/video/Nts2mU6uYoA/видео.html
    I know that some later composers such as Chopin were greatly influenced by Bach and the Baroque Period in general. I wonder if Ravel is also one of those who was greatly influenced by the Baroque Period.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +1

      Yes, I suppose the Sarabande is somewhat similar to the Pavane. Ravel was definately inspired by the old masters and style, especially in Le Tombeau de Couperin - only movements in Baroque forms and dances (Prelude, Menuet, Fugue, Toccata, Riguadon)

  • @Hailey_Paige_1937
    @Hailey_Paige_1937 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much! Ravel is my favorite composer. I’ve only heard this piece in its orchestral arrangement, so it was fantastic to listen to the solo piano arrangement finally! I loved your interpretation! Would you be willing to analyze.”Jeux D’eau” or one of the Movements from the ”Ma Mére l’Oye” Suite? I’d also love it if you did Debussy’s ”The Hills of Anacapri” or ”The Girl With Flaxen Hair.” ☺️

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Hailey! Yes, I didn't even mention the orchestra version that Ravel did later, it's like two different filters on the same music.
      You are extremely lucky, one of the Debussy pieces will come on Friday!

  • @Corwin0974
    @Corwin0974 4 года назад

    Fantastic video...

  • @josephineford9886
    @josephineford9886 3 года назад +1

    I like the way you explain things very interesting, are you a professional musician?

  • @morhywaden
    @morhywaden 2 года назад +1

    Dear Henrik, you indicate the redistribution of the dotted notes in the third appearance of the theme. i.e. played in a left hand chord. I also do that. I am not an accomplished pianist and find this composition technically challenging. In this section I resort to crossing my left hand to play the A, then right hand to play the F sharp and G . Two bars later I adopt the same method i.e. C with the left hand, A and G with R.H. This is probably wrong for reasons I am not musical enough to understand and I think it must disturb the melodic line. Thanks for all your tuition. Tony, U.K.

  • @atmadeepmukherjee5550
    @atmadeepmukherjee5550 3 года назад +3

    Good evening sir. I am Atmadeep. I have a suggestion. Can you please do an analysis of all the pieces in Gaspard de la Nuit? I know it is very hard, but nothing is hard for you.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 года назад +3

      You are lucky with this one, I'm actually planning to do Ondine and Le Gibet very soon! But Scarbo is not in my repertoire unfortunately.

  • @TheMotherOfBambi
    @TheMotherOfBambi 3 года назад

    Your piano sounds great! Well done on that audio, the microphones sound amazing. What mics do you use?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 года назад

      Thanks! It's a pair of Oktava MK-012 closer to the piano, mixed with some auduo från a Zoom H6 a bit away.

  • @Momentvm
    @Momentvm 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, Henrik, for such a brilliant analysis and interpretation. I love to learn from your videos. By the way, is it me, or this piece sounds like jazz?

    • @fallhaunt1952
      @fallhaunt1952 3 года назад +1

      it does! it used major 7th chords

    • @jeremy8473
      @jeremy8473 2 года назад +1

      Maurice Ravel both influenced jazz and was influenced by jazz himself!

  • @ianstukenborg437
    @ianstukenborg437 2 года назад +1

    Well, thanks for this! So it's not that tough on piano? Lol..i just played through the Jack Marshall arrangement of it for solo guitar. That was about the most disturbingly difficult thing that I've ever done while sitting on my butt! Lol i can't imagine trying to get it up to ten without flaw...

  • @jaeminko4286
    @jaeminko4286 3 года назад +1

    Hello! I love this piece, and as a beginner-intermediate-ish level I thought this piece would be a nice challenge for me to learn. However, I found it very hard to express the pianos and pianissimos throughout this piece - I sometimes rely on left pedal for doing that, but I really struggle voicing the "tres lointain" part. Suggestions?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 года назад +1

      Hi! It's actually a quite challenging piece, but mostly for when the theme returns for the 2nd and 3rd time. The "tres lointain" part has the challenge of voicing within the right hand as you correctly identify, and I can only say that I feel a strong imbalance in the hand when playing - very much in contact with the key and "fleshy" on the melody line and as lightly as possible on the chord notes. This type of technique comes with many years of practicing and getting more and more comfortable with different textures like this. It's very similar in Schubert's impromptu in G flat major too. It's not too hard to find the notes, but forming them is harder...

    • @jaeminko4286
      @jaeminko4286 3 года назад

      @@SonataSecrets Thanks! My teacher told me to play the melody part with my fingertips and the middle voice with "flat" fingers, but I guess that's still a challenge. Love this piece so much, but maybe it's a better idea for me to learn something else in the meantime. Thanks for the answer!

  • @AbnormaalTsi
    @AbnormaalTsi 4 года назад +2

    it might be my imagination, but is your piano a steinsgraeber and sohnes? I have one, and it looks exactly like mine haha. By the way, this a piece I have always loved ever since I started playing the piano. Music has really enriched my life, and its weird to think that I only discovered the piano less than three years. I will come back to this video in the future, thanks as always Henrik

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад

      It's probably close but it's another old German: Rönisch.
      This piece was an early promise for me too (in my case 15-20 years ago...)

    • @AbnormaalTsi
      @AbnormaalTsi 3 года назад

      @@SonataSecrets I came back to this video dear Henrik. I have a summer recital soon where I will play a selection of some of my favorite pieces. I'll be playing Debusy's reverie, Grieg's Arietta & Notturno and Chopin's Valse minute and Valse no.3. But I just couldn't help but to maybe attempt learning this piece! What other dreamy pieces for the piano do you like Henrik?

  • @kencarter6481
    @kencarter6481 2 года назад +1

    I can see your a jordan peterson fan.
    is that maps of meaning in the background? 2:50

  • @gailastrologo9712
    @gailastrologo9712 3 года назад

    What can you say about the pitch,melody,harmony,and timbre of this beautiful master piece of Maurice Ravel?

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 4 года назад +1

    😮👏

  • @JonGreenMusic
    @JonGreenMusic 3 года назад +2

    I came here because I was befudled by the doubling of the same note in two hands. I noticed you crossed out those notes. What is the story behind those notes?

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 года назад +2

      Yes, so the reason it can sometimes be the same note in both hands is if both hands follow a line that uses that note, and in order to show that that note is part of both lines, it can be written like that. However in practice it makes no sense to play the same note with two hands sowe may choose which one feels most comfortable or natural. That's what my crossings mean, that I chose the other hand :)

    • @JonGreenMusic
      @JonGreenMusic 3 года назад +1

      @@SonataSecrets thank you!

  • @jsswift87
    @jsswift87 2 года назад +3

    "Fermata so I can change the page"

  • @jehe7253
    @jehe7253 2 года назад

    Can someone explain to me what he says at 13:20 to 13:35?

  • @리히엘-t4d
    @리히엘-t4d 2 года назад

    17:57 I'm practicing, but this part is so hard that I'm stuck.

  • @Kent6494
    @Kent6494 11 месяцев назад

  • @romeoperrin7524
    @romeoperrin7524 2 месяца назад

    A 6:45 it is false
    It is -7b5 not diminished 7

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 4 года назад +1

    Can you add subtitles in your videos to Portuguese, Spanish or German ?. Sorry for my ignorance, I'm a new follower on the channel.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  4 года назад +2

      Hmm I can look into it... it will be autotranslate in that case.

  • @freddoliveira
    @freddoliveira 10 месяцев назад

    ...

  • @pabloheredia4378
    @pabloheredia4378 Год назад +1

    You're confusing D major and minor with G

  • @dehrk9024
    @dehrk9024 20 дней назад

    i love the useless stickfiguer xd

  • @mariedurand5474
    @mariedurand5474 2 года назад

    Il est un peu coincé ce type

  • @vaxx2007
    @vaxx2007 5 месяцев назад

    dude, what a shame to explain smth about this piece with no legato in melody. including intonation, delayed notes and all what makes it being so beautiful. you play it like showing to a child in 3rd year of a music school