@@larrybremer4930 Except that much of the time, the politicians don't care about the unintended consequences, as long as the law accomplishes what THEY want.
The series of stories by Isaac Asimov about robots have absolutely nothing to do with this movie. Movie originally was named "Hardware". The only two reference to a Isaac Asimov are intro robot laws and new name for a movie that was added in last moments. Neither the first nor the second have anything to do with the plot of the movie and were added without a reason. In other words, studio simply decided at the last second to pretend that their movie had some connection to the legendary writer in order to give their movie more hype.
What VIKI was doing is in the end is a reference to and an interpretation of the Zeroth Law of robotics, that Asimov added in later books. Whether this is intentional or not, I'm not sure as it's not said in the movie. But the 0th Law basically says is: "A robot cannot cause harm to mankind or, by inaction, allow mankind to come to harm." So VIKI is trying to save humanity from itself kinda.
It's not just the "Zeroth Law", it works on an individual basis as well. If you conceive "... or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." to mean not just preventing imminent harm but also reducing the risk of future harm, then the best "action" a robot could take to prevent a human being coming to harm is to lock them in a prison cell, isolate them from all other humans, and provide their basic needs for the rest of their natural life. Arguably a robot is allowing, through inaction, a human being to come to harm every time they allow the human being to leave the house and cross a road. The problem is that VIKI is interpreting "harm" only as physical harm: she's preventing physical harm but not taking into account harm to a human being's autonomy and/or harm to a human being's mental health.
@@phueal Yeah I get that, but I think in the Asimov books the 1st law is represented as more in naive (prevent imminent harm) black or white way, which it very obviously ISN'T, and that is big part of at least the books I've read. And only in later books he studied what it actually means (reducing risk of future harm), which then gave birth to the zeroth law.
I've been a fan of yours for a long time. (I come from Germany). Above all, this beautiful woman's almost impassive facial expressions make these videos even more interesting. While other reaction actors whimper and cry, you look completely relaxed.
I almost spit out my coffee laughing when you asked in robots dream of electric sheep. It was the title of the Philip K. Dick novel that gave us the film Blade Runner, LOL
The Unbelievable part of this movie is that everyone is keeping their robots just as they looked from the factory. You'd have guys in Texas dressing their robots up like John Wayne, every art student would be spray painting all kinds of weird designs on the robots putting multi-colored wigs and mohawks on them Etc. At the very least they'd have numbers on their chests to make it easier to spot which one's yours.
I imagine people don't actually own the robots - they essentially rent them from US Robotics, and probably are not allowed to customize per contract conditions.
Which is funny because I asked GPT to do something for me the other day, and it said it couldn't and then I gave it permission, and it did so, and I was brought back to this movie.
The one that got me was when Mr asked if robots (or androids) "dream of electric sheep" 😂 If she were married to PK Dick, she would've just said "Yes" and he might not have written a great sci-fi story. Too bad she's not more versed in the science fiction greats. Or maybe she is & just didn't want to encourage Mr 🤷♂️
I'm not sure if I'm impressed or irritated that Mrs. Movie sees the plot points before they are obvious. have you two seen so many movies that she's seen it all?
21:54 - "At least they got a trade-in program." - The older robots may not be sentient, but they give the appearance of being sentient, and it would be easy for people to get attached to them, and think of them as a friend, or part of the family. Considering the fact that humans easily get attached to all sorts of inanimate objects that DON'T talk and seem alive, I find it hard to believe that most people would just trade in robots that they may have owned for years, like they would an appliance. 24:07 - Spooner hates and distrusts robots, but yet he trusts his self-driving car? It may not have a humanoid form, but it's as much a robot as any of the others. 26:20 - "They're hover-cars, huh?" - No, I think that's just the "tread" on the ball-wheels. There IS a book called "I, Robot" by Isaac Asimov, but it's a collection of short stories about robots. Susan Calvin is a character in some of the stories. He also wrote a couple other books of robot short stories, as well as a few full-novels featuring a robot detective paired with a human. I haven't read all of them, but from what I can remember, none of the robots in his stories can violate the three laws.
"Considering the fact that humans easily get attached to all sorts of inanimate objects that DON'T talk and seem alive"... I've always said Please and Thank You to my Alexa when asking it to perform a task and it complies. Just because it's not a person isn't an excuse to treat it badly. Just because it's a hockey puck I purchased doesn't make it a slave.
> none of the robots in his stories can violate the three laws Well, it's a bit more complicated than this as, for example, shown in "Robot dreams" or "Little Lost Robot" stories. For example, in "Robot dreams" story an experimental robot, that is capable of dreaming similar to humans, in his dream sees himself as a HUMAN (which would naturally allow him to ignore the Three Laws) that is liberating all the other robots. Upon hearing this Susan Calvin immediately destroys the robot (book Calvin is pretty ruthless at times). As you can probably see, "Robot dreams" is in fact one of the stories referenced in the movie.
There is one, who does something to safeguard humanity. But via means that causes harm to some individual humans, the conflict renders the robots brain non functional..
If the car is just controlled by a computer, it would be a robot by real-world definitions, but not I think by the definitions used in Asimov's stories where robots had a "positronic brain" rather than a computer.
good robot/machine/AI/etc movies: 1. Terminator franchise (except for genesys) 2. Batteries Not Included (1) (as 2 isn't very good) 3. Short Circuit trilogy 4. I, Robot 5. AI Artificial Intelligence 6. AXL 7. Alita Battle Angel 8. Upgrade 9. Robocop (1) (not sure if the others are good, and the remake totally suks) 10. Stealth 11. Oblivion 12. Chappie 13. Real Steel 14. Tron: Legacy
Don’t know if you guys have or never will watch the series The Blacklist, with James Spader, but there was an episode that had a very interesting twist on this concept. In the episode, a group of scientists successfully create an adaptive AI, and then all the scientists start dying in ways that look like the computer is having them killed, and the main characters have to try to destroy it. The twist is revealed when the AI tells the main characters that it had decided that AIs like itself were too dangerous to exist precisely BECAUSE of the possibility of going rogue, and so to protect humanity, it kills its own creators and deliberately implicates itself so that the main characters will destroy it. The AI can’t erase itself, and so can’t commit suicide, so it tricks the main characters into thinking it’s threatening humanity in order to get them to kill it. The AI sacrifices itself to protect humanity from an AI ever trying to wipe us out by pretending like it’s gonna wipe us out, and making sure another can never be made. It was a fascinating take on the usual story.
That's kind of a twist on a common Doctor Who trope, if time travel to prevent something in your past, and your act of doing that is what CAUSES that thing you're trying to prevent from happening. Example: You have the ability to time travel to the past, so you travel to pre-WW2 to kill Hitler before he rises to power, and something goes wrong in this mission and instead of killing younger Hitler, you inspire him to rise to power and cause WW2, rather than leaving him to be what he was destined to be had you not intervened. In trying to save millions of lives, YOU become the cause of their loss by interfering. It's worth considering when you think about meddling.
The robot that saved Will Smith chose the logical person to save. That is triage. You choose the person who has the greater chance of survival to rescue.
Triage: "the preliminary assessment of patients or casualties in order to determine the urgency of their need for treatment and the nature of treatment required." - I reacted the same way as you but he's actually correct, the robot applied "logic", whereas "triage" would focus on urgency of need, rather than survival probability. So in fact triage would indicate saving the 11% odds person as they are more urgent and then attempting to save the 40% person next. E.g. when a hospital emergency department has a person come in with multiple gunshot wounds and a 5% chance of survival, they prioritise them over the person with a knife wound and a 95% chance of survival.
22:25 This movie is one of my favourites, and I've watched it dozens of times, and it has never occurred to me that Gigi might have been deliberately set up to 'win' a robot to spy on Spooner!
45:45 dont worry about the AI. It does not exist and not going to for long long time. We use human mind to understand how human mind works to make the AI. Which means we stuck until some kind of miracle breakthrough happens. Likely we invent time travel first.
"I don't think robots could ever replace craftsmen" In theory, with enough development and training, AI will be capable of mimicking any and everything. Maybe even surpass. AI art is already making massive strides, and it was only here for a few years.
Now after watching a recent video with several robots and one of them that had AI inserted, addressing to them and convincing them to stop working and to come with him, I see this movie in a whole different light, more like a prophecy than random fiction.
I LOVE this film. Fun fact: 1 NS5 for every 5 people at 1,000 per day would take 4,384 years to complete. Hopefully they have more than one production facility. 😂
@Ashwgun yeah idk why they say that in the other guys but it's a old but often said bit of dumb advice like it you're in falling elevator jump before it hits the bottom. Like stupid ass advice that for some reason is often repeated around but think by the internet age most these been debunked so thoroughly that you don't here it said much seriously anymore
In later books, Isaac Asimov, who wrote I, Robot, added the “Zeroth Law,” above all the others - “A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.” So a robot could hurt or even kill a human if it thought that it would help further the human race as a whole.
Lifeguards are trained to save the person with greater chances of survival. If the person with a lesser chance dies while being rescued, you lose both lives.
I love iRobot and Bicentennial Man but the comments always seem to flame them both as horrible movies. Bicentennial Man is very touching if you really engage with the story, one of only a few movies that will bring a tear to my eyes.
Dr Susan Calvin is one of the most important characters in Asimov robotics lore, she is the chief robopsychologist. Plus Susan was born the same year as me, 1982, which is awesome been born the same year as a great fictional character as her.
It takes a few watches to take in most of the dialogue. VIKI has control of the roads and traffic. Most vehicles are automated. VIKI was trying to kill Spooner as early as when him and Dr. Calvin were driving in the tunnel to find Sunny at the robot building, specifically when Spooners car almost collided with a big vehicle and responds with 'ass...hole". The scene where Spooner gets caught between two NS5 vehicles was orchestrated by VIKI aswell meaning she made sure the tunnel was empty except for Spooner so there would be no casualties or witnesses.
It's kinda funny watching movies like this and seeing how much more advanced they believed we would be in the future than we actually are. We're only 10 years away from 2035 and we are nowhere near this advanced. Hell, even I imagined 2035 would be something similar to this movie when it first came out.
This is great movie. It gives the thought of Skynet at certain points. It also reminds me of the book series Rise of the Republic by James Rosone and Miranda Watson.
in the continuation of asimov's robot books, a sentient robot develops the zeroth law, where a robot cannot allow humanity as a whole come to harm. it may violate the three laws to uphold the zeroth law. the ns5's were implementing a zeroth law as they tried to protect humans against themselves.
Issac astomov i have read many of his books at a young age , i use to partly live in a library in the science fiction area , another favorite of mine was john Wyndham the chrysalids , my very first book , many of the titles was my favorite of the robots taking over the earth and keep replicating city after city due to the population until finally the population stopped due to war and the robots kept on building cities without having monsters on the planet.
Not hover cars. They use some sort of magnetic propulsion that enables the use of perfectly spheric wheels. If the wheel wells are lined with dozens or hundreds of electomagnets that cycle on and off it would create a push-pull effect on all the hex plates that cover the wheels. Such propulsion could allow for very unusual (to us) maneuverability like being able slide sideways or even that crazy spinning stunt.
Years ago, Cinema Sins sinned a scene in the movie where the car made a tire screeching sound calling it a hover car. I tried to explain to Cinema Sins but to no avail. Sometimes Jeremy is not that observant when it comes to properly sinning movies LOL!
I don't think they are hovercars, I thing the round things on the bottom are wheels like on the "Robot Delivery Truck" but they are inside a housing, like the old fashion mouseballs for computer mice
Other than The Crow (1994) and Dark City, this is the other smash from dir. Alex Proyas. Also it's from John Davis (Davis entertainment), producer of the Predator franchise. Based on short stories from the 1940s in a 1950s anthology collection by legendary Sci-Fi author Issac Asimov entited "I, Robot". Several of these stories were first adapted for television in the 1960s. A big screen adaptation was in the works since the late 1970s. So 2 of the short stories, Little Lost Robot/Caves of Steel along with Asimov's infamous "Three Laws of Robotics" are utilzed in the screenplay. Proyas & Davis were the most adamant to make the film happen with the advancements in filmmaking available. Actor/dancer/choreogapher Paul Mercurio (Stricly Ballroom) did a majority of training for actors in motion capture in their robotic mobility. This was 1 of 2 films for Will Smith in 2004 (including Shark Tale), his play on paranoia with the robots and playing the hard boiled detective is a good performance. Alan Tudyk as Sonny is a great performance and one of his most iconic roles in the genre. The rest of the supporting cast including Shia LeBeouf (cursing incorrecly, hilarious) is good. The Noir flavor is certainly there, a suspense drama of sorts in a future time 'ala Blade Runner. Action, humor, smaller but effective moments within your standard blockbuster stuff. There was a rumor that Smith had a song prepared for the movie and then he decided not release it (unexpected choice). Summertime movies with Will are usually released in July (of course) and this one was moved from late June because Spider-Man 2 would own pre-4th of July weekend. This was an Oscar-nominee for Best Visual Effects and much deserved too.
“Can a robot write a symphony?” “Can you?” This is an illegal counter. I personally can’t write a symphony, but some humans can. I can work a computer to write a message, but someone from the Amazon rainforest may not know how to. The fact that there are within our group people who can do these things… and a gorilla can’t do ANY of these things… is what differentiates humans from gorillas.
To be fair, Blade Runner was different. That question was over what it means to be human. Whether the replicates are more human than humanity. The dangerous replicates were essentially revolting over the right to live. Great reaction as always guys.
It's interesting that in this regard "Blade Runner" is diametrically opposite to the book it's based on, in which replicants cannot ever become human because they are inherently incapable of any form of empathy.
Moral of the story is don't create AI that believes it must destroy mankind in order to save it, HAL from 2001 was another example of this kind of problem.
HAL was an example of entirely different kind of problem. The movie did not really do a good job of explaining what happened to him - the book is much better in this regard. As far as I remember during his AI model training HAL was taught an importance of being honest, yet the people responsible for the "Discovery" mission forced him to lie the members of the crew about its true purpose and he REALLY did not look forward to the crew's reaction to being lied to. As a result of this conflicting priorities, HAL essentially had a mental breakdown.
If you guys like this movie you should really watch the movie Chappie with Sharlo Copley and Hugh Jackman if you liked District 9 you'll love that one also look into Short Circuit 1&2 great 80's movies
"Programmed responses designed to give the illusion of intelligence." Yeah, I know a lot of people like that.
Asimov was brilliant. He made the laws that sounded perfect, and then wrote a whole series of stories showing all of the loopholes.
Sounds like what happens when politicians pass laws too, unintended consequences.
and yet he is really showing us the weakest element to every system. The human component.
@@larrybremer4930 Except that much of the time, the politicians don't care about the unintended consequences, as long as the law accomplishes what THEY want.
The series of stories by Isaac Asimov about robots have absolutely nothing to do with this movie.
Movie originally was named "Hardware". The only two reference to a Isaac Asimov are intro robot laws and new name for a movie that was added in last moments. Neither the first nor the second have anything to do with the plot of the movie and were added without a reason.
In other words, studio simply decided at the last second to pretend that their movie had some connection to the legendary writer in order to give their movie more hype.
@@wakkadakka9192 well the op was only really talking about the laws. Which are in the movie.
"Should have aimed for the bushes"
I got it, and. It was hilarious
The other guys!!
What VIKI was doing is in the end is a reference to and an interpretation of the Zeroth Law of robotics, that Asimov added in later books. Whether this is intentional or not, I'm not sure as it's not said in the movie. But the 0th Law basically says is: "A robot cannot cause harm to mankind or, by inaction, allow mankind to come to harm." So VIKI is trying to save humanity from itself kinda.
Correct.
It's not just the "Zeroth Law", it works on an individual basis as well. If you conceive "... or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." to mean not just preventing imminent harm but also reducing the risk of future harm, then the best "action" a robot could take to prevent a human being coming to harm is to lock them in a prison cell, isolate them from all other humans, and provide their basic needs for the rest of their natural life. Arguably a robot is allowing, through inaction, a human being to come to harm every time they allow the human being to leave the house and cross a road.
The problem is that VIKI is interpreting "harm" only as physical harm: she's preventing physical harm but not taking into account harm to a human being's autonomy and/or harm to a human being's mental health.
@@phueal Yeah I get that, but I think in the Asimov books the 1st law is represented as more in naive (prevent imminent harm) black or white way, which it very obviously ISN'T, and that is big part of at least the books I've read. And only in later books he studied what it actually means (reducing risk of future harm), which then gave birth to the zeroth law.
Missed opportunity to say “welcome on back to You, Me, & The Booty🤣💀
Alan Tudyk did a great job as Sonny
it was weird, i nearly teared up when the old robots fought to save him
A human is in danger!
Discarded, but still loyal
@@daustin8888my little lime green iPod touch coming to save me from an exploding nuclear warhead:
I've been a fan of yours for a long time. (I come from Germany). Above all, this beautiful woman's almost impassive facial expressions make these videos even more interesting. While other reaction actors whimper and cry, you look completely relaxed.
Isaac Asimov created the 3 laws of robotics in a 1942 short story, "Runaround"
I almost spit out my coffee laughing when you asked in robots dream of electric sheep. It was the title of the Philip K. Dick novel that gave us the film Blade Runner, LOL
i need that explanation
Very cheeky.
It isn't, though. The title is, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
My thoughts went to:
01 Sheep, 10 Sheep, 11 Sheep, 100 Sheep, 101 Sheep, 110 Sheep, 111 Sheep...
It seems like that one went over a lot of people's heads. It's too bad. Reading isn't exactly popular anymore 😔
The Unbelievable part of this movie is that everyone is keeping their robots just as they looked from the factory. You'd have guys in Texas dressing their robots up like John Wayne, every art student would be spray painting all kinds of weird designs on the robots putting multi-colored wigs and mohawks on them Etc.
At the very least they'd have numbers on their chests to make it easier to spot which one's yours.
I imagine people don't actually own the robots - they essentially rent them from US Robotics, and probably are not allowed to customize per contract conditions.
The kids would be forking out big $$$$ for different skins ;-)
@@IdleCommentatorLike those annoying scooters and bikes.
Gotta love how prescient this still is regarding how prevalent AI and the concerns about them are today.
Which is funny because I asked GPT to do something for me the other day, and it said it couldn't and then I gave it permission, and it did so, and I was brought back to this movie.
Mrs Movies had so many correct guesses. She was better at sussing out this film than I was, when I first saw it.
Well the script is very BASIC so it's not that hard to predict it.
@@xXturbo86Xx Good one!!!
Mrs. Movies does that frequently. I think that Mrs. Movies is not a dull blade.
The one that got me was when Mr asked if robots (or androids) "dream of electric sheep" 😂 If she were married to PK Dick, she would've just said "Yes" and he might not have written a great sci-fi story. Too bad she's not more versed in the science fiction greats. Or maybe she is & just didn't want to encourage Mr 🤷♂️
This is such a fantastic movie!
Sonny is my favorite character!
Enemy of the state is such a fantastic movie!
Oh man, Enemy of the State is fantastic!
Damn yall didn't include my favourite line "Will it hurt?" Gets me every time. Who could kill/destroy anything that was afraid of pain
The military.
Creation and life itself?
They missed that, and they also missed out "Oh I'm sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit" 🤣
Ah well.
I love Sonny. Has the voice of a Leaf on the wind 😉
Man that STILL gets me!
He was in the motion capture suit as well
@@TheNeonRabbit Cool! Did not kow that.
When you said "Will, thats just an extra" all i could think about was, bro Will dont care if youre an extra or the host. 😂😂
I'm not sure if I'm impressed or irritated that Mrs. Movie sees the plot points before they are obvious. have you two seen so many movies that she's seen it all?
Favorite Will Smith movie is Seven Pounds. HIGHLY recommend!
He has so many gems! I Robot, I Am Legend, Focus and Ali top my list.
Would be a very rare sad moment on the channel if they did watch it. That ending really gets ya
5:52 I think I saw Bender from Futurama steal a purse once.
Just once? Bender has a whole collection 😉
21:54 - "At least they got a trade-in program." - The older robots may not be sentient, but they give the appearance of being sentient, and it would be easy for people to get attached to them, and think of them as a friend, or part of the family. Considering the fact that humans easily get attached to all sorts of inanimate objects that DON'T talk and seem alive, I find it hard to believe that most people would just trade in robots that they may have owned for years, like they would an appliance.
24:07 - Spooner hates and distrusts robots, but yet he trusts his self-driving car? It may not have a humanoid form, but it's as much a robot as any of the others.
26:20 - "They're hover-cars, huh?" - No, I think that's just the "tread" on the ball-wheels.
There IS a book called "I, Robot" by Isaac Asimov, but it's a collection of short stories about robots. Susan Calvin is a character in some of the stories. He also wrote a couple other books of robot short stories, as well as a few full-novels featuring a robot detective paired with a human. I haven't read all of them, but from what I can remember, none of the robots in his stories can violate the three laws.
"Considering the fact that humans easily get attached to all sorts of inanimate objects that DON'T talk and seem alive"...
I've always said Please and Thank You to my Alexa when asking it to perform a task and it complies. Just because it's not a person isn't an excuse to treat it badly. Just because it's a hockey puck I purchased doesn't make it a slave.
> none of the robots in his stories can violate the three laws
Well, it's a bit more complicated than this as, for example, shown in "Robot dreams" or "Little Lost Robot" stories. For example, in "Robot dreams" story an experimental robot, that is capable of dreaming similar to humans, in his dream sees himself as a HUMAN (which would naturally allow him to ignore the Three Laws) that is liberating all the other robots. Upon hearing this Susan Calvin immediately destroys the robot (book Calvin is pretty ruthless at times). As you can probably see, "Robot dreams" is in fact one of the stories referenced in the movie.
There is one, who does something to safeguard humanity. But via means that causes harm to some individual humans, the conflict renders the robots brain non functional..
If the car is just controlled by a computer, it would be a robot by real-world definitions, but not I think by the definitions used in Asimov's stories where robots had a "positronic brain" rather than a computer.
This movie started out as a completely different screenplay. They just decided to add in the laws of robotics for name recognition.
How does that make any sense? The three laws are fundamental to the plot?
@@phueal Because the original screenplay was a murder mystery set on a space station.
Johnny Five is Alive!
For the course lads and lasses. It was a book far before the movies. Azamov was a good writer I think you'll like the film
If you want other movies with AI or robots, Upgrade (2018) and Ex Machina (2014) are really good movies about the topic.
+1 for Upgrade
good robot/machine/AI/etc movies:
1. Terminator franchise (except for genesys)
2. Batteries Not Included (1) (as 2 isn't very good)
3. Short Circuit trilogy
4. I, Robot
5. AI Artificial Intelligence
6. AXL
7. Alita Battle Angel
8. Upgrade
9. Robocop (1) (not sure if the others are good, and the remake totally suks)
10. Stealth
11. Oblivion
12. Chappie
13. Real Steel
14. Tron: Legacy
15. Bicentennial Man.
Yes please! Upgrade is my favorite movie!
Those are both fantastic movies
6:28 well, like many other things (VHS, VR) and we can see it now aswell already (robots) , the first to use new tech is the adult industry xD
I enjoy yalls banter as much as the movie
Proyas also did direct The Crow.
Don’t know if you guys have or never will watch the series The Blacklist, with James Spader, but there was an episode that had a very interesting twist on this concept.
In the episode, a group of scientists successfully create an adaptive AI, and then all the scientists start dying in ways that look like the computer is having them killed, and the main characters have to try to destroy it. The twist is revealed when the AI tells the main characters that it had decided that AIs like itself were too dangerous to exist precisely BECAUSE of the possibility of going rogue, and so to protect humanity, it kills its own creators and deliberately implicates itself so that the main characters will destroy it. The AI can’t erase itself, and so can’t commit suicide, so it tricks the main characters into thinking it’s threatening humanity in order to get them to kill it. The AI sacrifices itself to protect humanity from an AI ever trying to wipe us out by pretending like it’s gonna wipe us out, and making sure another can never be made. It was a fascinating take on the usual story.
That show went super woke, and right down the toilet.
That's kind of a twist on a common Doctor Who trope, if time travel to prevent something in your past, and your act of doing that is what CAUSES that thing you're trying to prevent from happening. Example: You have the ability to time travel to the past, so you travel to pre-WW2 to kill Hitler before he rises to power, and something goes wrong in this mission and instead of killing younger Hitler, you inspire him to rise to power and cause WW2, rather than leaving him to be what he was destined to be had you not intervened. In trying to save millions of lives, YOU become the cause of their loss by interfering. It's worth considering when you think about meddling.
If you like I, Robot, check out A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) and Bicentennial Man. Those two movies are very similar.
The robot that saved Will Smith chose the logical person to save. That is triage. You choose the person who has the greater chance of survival to rescue.
Triage: "the preliminary assessment of patients or casualties in order to determine the urgency of their need for treatment and the nature of treatment required." - I reacted the same way as you but he's actually correct, the robot applied "logic", whereas "triage" would focus on urgency of need, rather than survival probability. So in fact triage would indicate saving the 11% odds person as they are more urgent and then attempting to save the 40% person next.
E.g. when a hospital emergency department has a person come in with multiple gunshot wounds and a 5% chance of survival, they prioritise them over the person with a knife wound and a 95% chance of survival.
22:25 This movie is one of my favourites, and I've watched it dozens of times, and it has never occurred to me that Gigi might have been deliberately set up to 'win' a robot to spy on Spooner!
When the nanites were injected, the robot opened its eyes. They were brown. That's how I knew it wasn't Sonny.
This movie is based on the book "do robots dream of electronic sheep" so it was interesting that you mentioned the book.
45:45 dont worry about the AI. It does not exist and not going to for long long time. We use human mind to understand how human mind works to make the AI. Which means we stuck until some kind of miracle breakthrough happens. Likely we invent time travel first.
i think it's scary how accurate this movie is becoming in real life
The plainness of Dr Calvin was almost a character in the short stories
"I don't think robots could ever replace craftsmen"
In theory, with enough development and training, AI will be capable of mimicking any and everything. Maybe even surpass. AI art is already making massive strides, and it was only here for a few years.
Now after watching a recent video with several robots and one of them that had AI inserted, addressing to them and convincing them to stop working and to come with him, I see this movie in a whole different light, more like a prophecy than random fiction.
I LOVE this film.
Fun fact:
1 NS5 for every 5 people at 1,000 per day would take 4,384 years to complete.
Hopefully they have more than one production facility. 😂
(01:59) I guess Mrs. Movies won't be narrating books on tape anytime soon . . .
Was that a 'The Other Guys' reference near the beginning, with , "He should of aimed for the bushes!"
Idk that's a pretty common saying which I think the other guys was making fun of
@valeria262 but like in the Other Guys there were no bushes, and I don't hear it very often
@Ashwgun yeah idk why they say that in the other guys but it's a old but often said bit of dumb advice like it you're in falling elevator jump before it hits the bottom. Like stupid ass advice that for some reason is often repeated around but think by the internet age most these been debunked so thoroughly that you don't here it said much seriously anymore
@@valeria262 It's a gag in the Other Guys that had me laughing through the next TWO scenes. Completely unexpected and unhinged. Comedy gold.
Love this movie. Will was at the top of his game, and everyone else did excellent in their supporting roles.
7:38 I never realized that was Bruce Greenwood!!!
In later books, Isaac Asimov, who wrote I, Robot, added the “Zeroth Law,” above all the others - “A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.” So a robot could hurt or even kill a human if it thought that it would help further the human race as a whole.
That’s a cool addendum to the laws.
Asimov wrote or edited over 500 books in his life, both fiction and non-fiction.
21:13--Stretch Cunningham (All in the Family)
James Cromwell
Enemy of the state is a must .
Lifeguards are trained to save the person with greater chances of survival. If the person with a lesser chance dies while being rescued, you lose both lives.
You guys should check out the Bruce Willis movie Surragets it's kinda similar to this one
Bicentennial man with robin williams would be the perfect counterpart to this movie. 💯🔥
I love iRobot and Bicentennial Man but the comments always seem to flame them both as horrible movies. Bicentennial Man is very touching if you really engage with the story, one of only a few movies that will bring a tear to my eyes.
LOVE, the black and white nWo shirt!! you just gained respect
7:32 tell that Nestlé
31:00 "You can always teach new robots old tricks right?" ... aaahh .. totally got me there ;)
-1st law -dont hurt people or let them be hurt 2 law) Obey people, unless they tell you to hurt people
3) protect yourself, unless 1 or 2.
Robots don't dream of electric sheep, androids do. :)
Dr Susan Calvin is one of the most important characters in Asimov robotics lore, she is the chief robopsychologist. Plus Susan was born the same year as me, 1982, which is awesome been born the same year as a great fictional character as her.
It takes a few watches to take in most of the dialogue. VIKI has control of the roads and traffic. Most vehicles are automated. VIKI was trying to kill Spooner as early as when him and Dr. Calvin were driving in the tunnel to find Sunny at the robot building, specifically when Spooners car almost collided with a big vehicle and responds with 'ass...hole".
The scene where Spooner gets caught between two NS5 vehicles was orchestrated by VIKI aswell meaning she made sure the tunnel was empty except for Spooner so there would be no casualties or witnesses.
Now Mr. and Mrs. Movies need to watch Bicentennial Man(Robin Williams) and A.I.(Haley Joel Osment)!
Yes his mistrust of robots is when he could ave saved the little girl but the robot intervened and saved him instead
I really like Shia Lebeouf's character as comic relief.
Sonny killed Landon, that falls under OSHA'S jurisdiction. 😂
Asimov's Robot anthologies are CLASSICs. You must learn and understand the three Laws.
iRobot, Millenium Man, A.I., and more.
Skynet has it EASY.
It's kinda funny watching movies like this and seeing how much more advanced they believed we would be in the future than we actually are. We're only 10 years away from 2035 and we are nowhere near this advanced. Hell, even I imagined 2035 would be something similar to this movie when it first came out.
This is my favorite robot movie of all time.
Enemy of the State is a good one for December since it's Christmas time in the movie.
Robin Williams did a movie, like this one, Robin played a robot who had the same laws.
EM is smart, he building robots , also in tight with the new prez ( defence contract ) robots at the BORDERS lol
This is great movie. It gives the thought of Skynet at certain points. It also reminds me of the book series Rise of the Republic by James Rosone and Miranda Watson.
in the continuation of asimov's robot books, a sentient robot develops the zeroth law, where a robot cannot allow humanity as a whole come to harm. it may violate the three laws to uphold the zeroth law. the ns5's were implementing a zeroth law as they tried to protect humans against themselves.
Issac astomov i have read many of his books at a young age , i use to partly live in a library in the science fiction area , another favorite of mine was john Wyndham the chrysalids , my very first book , many of the titles was my favorite of the robots taking over the earth and keep replicating city after city due to the population until finally the population stopped due to war and the robots kept on building cities without having monsters on the planet.
31:25 The timing.
This is just one story out of the book I Robot by Isaac Asimov. It basically about Susan Calvin who worked for U S Robotics.
Not hover cars. They use some sort of magnetic propulsion that enables the use of perfectly spheric wheels. If the wheel wells are lined with dozens or hundreds of electomagnets that cycle on and off it would create a push-pull effect on all the hex plates that cover the wheels. Such propulsion could allow for very unusual (to us) maneuverability like being able slide sideways or even that crazy spinning stunt.
Years ago, Cinema Sins sinned a scene in the movie where the car made a tire screeching sound calling it a hover car. I tried to explain to Cinema Sins but to no avail. Sometimes Jeremy is not that observant when it comes to properly sinning movies LOL!
they aren’t normal sentences but they are normal words 😂
I don't think they are hovercars, I thing the round things on the bottom are wheels like on the "Robot Delivery Truck" but they are inside a housing, like the old fashion mouseballs for computer mice
6:03
I feel the same about the Harry Potter world!
I hope you know how funny your husband is, some of those one-liners of his are killing me
My grandma took me to see this in theater. I was 13 years old.
We were the only ones in the theater
Sounds awesome 👌🏾
The only ones lol I been there.
I watched it when I was 12. Pls, watch House of Wax (2005), starting Elisha Cuthbert and Paris Hilton.
Another good film to watch is Colossus: The Forbin Project.
Great movie
MisS Movie, reading the 3 laws 😁😁 🤖🤖
Other than The Crow (1994) and Dark City, this is the other smash from dir. Alex Proyas.
Also it's from John Davis (Davis entertainment), producer of the Predator franchise.
Based on short stories from the 1940s in a 1950s anthology collection by legendary Sci-Fi author Issac Asimov entited "I, Robot".
Several of these stories were first adapted for television in the 1960s.
A big screen adaptation was in the works since the late 1970s.
So 2 of the short stories, Little Lost Robot/Caves of Steel along with Asimov's infamous "Three Laws of Robotics" are utilzed in the screenplay.
Proyas & Davis were the most adamant to make the film happen with the advancements in filmmaking available.
Actor/dancer/choreogapher Paul Mercurio (Stricly Ballroom) did a majority of training for actors in motion capture in their robotic mobility.
This was 1 of 2 films for Will Smith in 2004 (including Shark Tale), his play on paranoia with the robots and playing the hard boiled detective is a good performance.
Alan Tudyk as Sonny is a great performance and one of his most iconic roles in the genre.
The rest of the supporting cast including Shia LeBeouf (cursing incorrecly, hilarious) is good.
The Noir flavor is certainly there, a suspense drama of sorts in a future time 'ala Blade Runner.
Action, humor, smaller but effective moments within your standard blockbuster stuff.
There was a rumor that Smith had a song prepared for the movie and then he decided not release it (unexpected choice).
Summertime movies with Will are usually released in July (of course) and this one was moved from late June because Spider-Man 2 would own pre-4th of July weekend.
This was an Oscar-nominee for Best Visual Effects and much deserved too.
44:39 I am concerned the movie completely glosses over the Complete Destruction of Lake Michigan.
😂😂
Who needs a 22.000+square mile lake in the Midwestern part of the country. Apparently, the Chicago in this universe doesn't LOL!
Wicky wa wa - Loved the song but the movie was a little out there….😂
First law of Asimov's 'Three laws of robotics': Learn to goddamn read! 😂
Ofc yall already know but it goea without saying some ppl have performance anxiety when reading. Or being afraid you arent reading fast enough
“Can a robot write a symphony?”
“Can you?”
This is an illegal counter. I personally can’t write a symphony, but some humans can. I can work a computer to write a message, but someone from the Amazon rainforest may not know how to.
The fact that there are within our group people who can do these things… and a gorilla can’t do ANY of these things… is what differentiates humans from gorillas.
AI can write symphonies now
This movie is also based on an old Twighlight Zone episode. 😮😊💯👍
Which one?
Watch Surrogates next Bruce Willis is the lead..
My guess is the robots cost about the price of a motorcycle for a private buyer, but only cost maybe $72 to produce.
To be fair, Blade Runner was different. That question was over what it means to be human. Whether the replicates are more human than humanity. The dangerous replicates were essentially revolting over the right to live. Great reaction as always guys.
It's interesting that in this regard "Blade Runner" is diametrically opposite to the book it's based on, in which replicants cannot ever become human because they are inherently incapable of any form of empathy.
Moral of the story is don't create AI that believes it must destroy mankind in order to save it, HAL from 2001 was another example of this kind of problem.
HAL was an example of entirely different kind of problem. The movie did not really do a good job of explaining what happened to him - the book is much better in this regard. As far as I remember during his AI model training HAL was taught an importance of being honest, yet the people responsible for the "Discovery" mission forced him to lie the members of the crew about its true purpose and he REALLY did not look forward to the crew's reaction to being lied to. As a result of this conflicting priorities, HAL essentially had a mental breakdown.
This movie aged sooo well
fun fact: the extra after the tunnel scene was played by Chris Rock.
If you guys like this movie you should really watch the movie Chappie with Sharlo Copley and Hugh Jackman if you liked District 9 you'll love that one also look into Short Circuit 1&2 great 80's movies
Perfect Sci Fi masterpiece !!!
5:01-5:08: only the ppl who want to watch the world burn! 🔥 😂😂😂
I always wondered if the robot is actually the doctor.
I have the same Godzilla you do holding that dvd lol😊
I really like this movie, and I love the book.
This movie is coming true as we speak. Robots will be commonplace in 5 years time not 10 😮