Some of the best fire video I’ve seen! I was surprised they hadn’t already pulled hand lines in anticipation of the fire pushing out front. You could see the smoke swirling in the windows well before the windows blew.
At least no fireman went inside like they did in Charleston furniture store fire several years ago. That has a really bad outcome. Honestly, being Chicago I expected to see a lot of older equipment because the city has been so poorly run for so long.
The water wasn't hitting the fire for some time. Two master streams was not enough for a building this size & apparently without compartmentation. Poor ventilation job too. Those display windows should've been knock out early & water applied up into the ceiling & cockloft spaces.
Any chance you have video just prior to the building flashing? It isn't often you get to watch a flashover develop through plate glass windows, so it would be a fantastic training aid if you happened to film it.
Hint: KEEP YOUR FOCUS ON THE ACTION! Instead of seeing the most dramatic moments of the fire when it breaks through the front windows, we got a picture of a fire truck moving a few feet and a yellow pickup truck being moved. You completely missed what should have been the highlight of the coverage.
Not that I need to explain my actions to you but I was trying to show the set up of the tower ladder. As soon as I saw the fire venting from the front of the building I went there immediately. Video is a sideline I am primarily a still photographer.
@@jimgriffin9924 maybe so but I shoot what I am interested in …I’m not shooting for other people. I share what I see and shoot with others but I’m primarily shooting for me and what my interests are.
@@SRResquire Of course. And you do take excellent videos. Wish I still had a photo of the truck I drove years ago as a volunteer. It was probably the world's only pink fire truck. It was an early 1950s Diamond T, which by the mid-1970s had been faded from red to pink from the sun coming through the bay door's windows. It was finally replaced in the mid-80s, not by an entirely new truck. The department took the old Diamond T chassis from under the ladder bed (It was a ladder truck, old wooden ladders, one reel of hose and 250 gallon tank), and slid a 1973 Chevy chassis under the old bed. That was still in service when I moved out of town. The firehouse is another interesting story. It originally held a horse drawn pumper. The back doors where the horses came back into the firehouse after a fire are still in place. And backing the truck in meant, and still means, backing it EXACTLY onto the spot where the beams support the floor. If you miss, the truck will go down into the basement (where the bar and card tables are located.) It's in West Haven, CT, a city of 55,000+ people. They still use a part paid part volunteer department. Also the only city in the country that I know of that, up until the 1990s, had 3 separate fire districts, and three separate departments, all independent of the city government and each other. Heaven forbid a fire came in close to a district line. My high school had a shed burn down while the Center and Allingtown firefighters battled over who should be fighting the blaze. The city tried for years to force the 3 departments to consolidate, but it didn't happen until the Allingtown district went bankrupt, and had no choice but to become part of the Center District. The last I knew, West Shore was still independent. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
@@SRResquire Great video. I just watched the long helicopter news video. Yours showed the ground level at the start of fighting the fire. One ugly fire no matter the view. Take care and stay safe.
I work in the neighborhood and someone told me that it was a car dealership sometime ago. If anyone is interested I have three brief video clips of the fire on my RUclips channel.
Zero reason to enter the building. Don't risk lives for damaged furniture. Did you not see the two brick chimneys? You don't seem to know much about reading a fire scene. Please keep paying attention and learning from professionals.
@@emt5330 Do any of you responders realize how small that fire was at the beginning? That roof wasn't compromised at all. Not unless you consider how much useless water they put on it.
after the windows blew a semi fog pattern would have been their best friend cause it would gave a wider dispersion than a master stream and would have cooled the area quicker. 15yrs in Illinois fire service.
Even those master streams would have been effective if they weren't aimed at the floor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have to make sure that any cone of water can overcome the energy of the fire or wind. That was a blast furnace coming out the front! But otherwise, you are correct.
One Engine with a full tank of onboard water, applied by responsible thinkers, could have Prevented the small fire from getting this big. This was a case of arson BY the Chicago Fire Department!
@@SRResquire i understand, I just really enjoy watching CFD on a good job like that. Im from Chicago but moved to ky where i became a Firefighter. Sucks here tho, we never have any fires, maybe once a year. In all honesty tho, if you did make fire videos you wouldn't have much competition cause you appear to know what your doin. Keep up the good work.
@@ChiraqVet You can when you shoot 4K video but I still prefer regular composed properly lit with a flash still shots which you really can’t get with Video
I mean no disrespect but I'm seeing lots of "old guys" (I'm an old guy) I suppose the fire fighting trade isn't much different than other trades, less younger people interested in learning the craft.
I'm a retired old guy from the Suburbs, my old department had 2 or 3 show up for the last hiring test...Seems to be diminished interest and people are getting on the bigger, better paying and more action departments...To my understanding Chicago is in good shape attracting new hires but not like it use to be...The Burbs are drained, like a power vacuum...
What the USA work force needs is, a strong and responsible Work Ethic! A 90-year-old with that work ethic would have gone in the front door, which they left open to feed the fire, found what was burning and put tank water on it. This fire could have been completely stopped before this video even started. Just like most fires you see on RUclips.
The FDNY couldn't have burned that building down any better than these clowns did. Afterall, the FDNY IS the worst department in the world and every one of their videos Prove that statement.
With that amount of fire and heat, foam would have had no more affect than just water did. We tried foam on a paint fire a few years ago, to no effect. It just bubbled off with all the heat.
@@jamesfraser4173 compared to JP4 JET fuel. Polystyrene and other plastic used to make mattresses burn like petroleum-based materials. That's why I suggested that. As urban firefighters we forget our resources, airports are on s mutual aid agree with most municipal fire departments. Crash trucks to great job at fires.
Porque no entraron desde el principio a controlarlo desde el interior? Mala decisión de permitir que se extienda! Q pena por el propietario del local que se consumió en su totalidad y del local de al lado..
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Some of the best fire video I’ve seen! I was surprised they hadn’t already pulled hand lines in anticipation of the fire pushing out front. You could see the smoke swirling in the windows well before the windows blew.
Too busy standing there with their hands in their pockets.
Lets park Squad 2 IN the fire building next time
I saw it as I was leaving work.
Glad you were able to get more footage than I was,
good video.
Great video, Steve.
Awesome coverage as always, thank you!
Good looking tower Chicago fd your service is deeply appreciated thanks take care best wishes to everyone who responds keep up the good work. Joe
Great video sir makes me miss the good old days.
Looked like a lot of urethane foam going up from mattresses,etc..Makes for a very hot and difficult fire.
So does a lack of water on the burning material.
Furniture store,one of the worst fires possible.
At least no fireman went inside like they did in Charleston furniture store fire several years ago. That has a really bad outcome. Honestly, being Chicago I expected to see a lot of older equipment because the city has been so poorly run for so long.
Letting it burn is the next worst thing.
Excellent video!
That fire was vicious 😖 great video ✌
That's what happens when you don't put the water on the burning stuff.
We actually used this video for training in the event we responded to a commercial structure fire
Nice
Really! Training for what? How not to fight a fire? They did absolutely nothing right!
@@JB91710 are you commenting this on every comment
@@JB91710 You just copy and paste this childish whine everywhere, don't you? Ten seconds with the deck gun and the fire should be out, right?
@jasminelindros8923 Another useless comment from jasmine.
great video..nice clear audio too
Man, that is one super hot fire! All that water going in and the fire is rages.
The water wasn't hitting the fire for some time. Two master streams was not enough for a building this size & apparently without compartmentation. Poor ventilation job too. Those display windows should've been knock out early & water applied up into the ceiling & cockloft spaces.
GREAT JOB ON THIS VID ! HOLY FLAMES ! "GO AHEAD CHICAGO " !🇺🇲
Great footage hope they can rebuild
Great video. thanks.
Any chance you have video just prior to the building flashing? It isn't often you get to watch a flashover develop through plate glass windows, so it would be a fantastic training aid if you happened to film it.
No, apparently he thought it was much more important to see the yellow pickup truck moving.
I was hoping the same thing. Damn! A missed opportunity.
That was definitely an angry fire
Great place to park the ladder. It's a fricken furniture store full of black smoke. What did they think was gonna happen???
Notice how they left the door open to feed the black smoke so it COULD flashover? 3:40
Some heavy fire when it flashed over!
That was due to a lack of water on the burning stuff.
Wow amazing.
Hint: KEEP YOUR FOCUS ON THE ACTION! Instead of seeing the most dramatic moments of the fire when it breaks through the front windows, we got a picture of a fire truck moving a few feet and a yellow pickup truck being moved. You completely missed what should have been the highlight of the coverage.
Not that I need to explain my actions to you but I was trying to show the set up of the tower ladder. As soon as I saw the fire venting from the front of the building I went there immediately. Video is a sideline I am primarily a still photographer.
@@SRResquire YOu see on eet up of a tower, you've pretty much seen every set up of a tower.
@@jimgriffin9924 maybe so but I shoot what I am interested in …I’m not shooting for other people. I share what I see and shoot with others but I’m primarily shooting for me and what my interests are.
@@SRResquire Of course. And you do take excellent videos. Wish I still had a photo of the truck I drove years ago as a volunteer. It was probably the world's only pink fire truck. It was an early 1950s Diamond T, which by the mid-1970s had been faded from red to pink from the sun coming through the bay door's windows. It was finally replaced in the mid-80s, not by an entirely new truck. The department took the old Diamond T chassis from under the ladder bed (It was a ladder truck, old wooden ladders, one reel of hose and 250 gallon tank), and slid a 1973 Chevy chassis under the old bed. That was still in service when I moved out of town. The firehouse is another interesting story. It originally held a horse drawn pumper. The back doors where the horses came back into the firehouse after a fire are still in place. And backing the truck in meant, and still means, backing it EXACTLY onto the spot where the beams support the floor. If you miss, the truck will go down into the basement (where the bar and card tables are located.) It's in West Haven, CT, a city of 55,000+ people. They still use a part paid part volunteer department. Also the only city in the country that I know of that, up until the 1990s, had 3 separate fire districts, and three separate departments, all independent of the city government and each other. Heaven forbid a fire came in close to a district line. My high school had a shed burn down while the Center and Allingtown firefighters battled over who should be fighting the blaze. The city tried for years to force the 3 departments to consolidate, but it didn't happen until the Allingtown district went bankrupt, and had no choice but to become part of the Center District. The last I knew, West Shore was still independent. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
@@SRResquire Great video. I just watched the long helicopter news video. Yours showed the ground level at the start of fighting the fire. One ugly fire no matter the view. Take care and stay safe.
I see "MOTORS" on the old facade. Must have been a car dealership at one time.
I work in the neighborhood and someone told me that it was a car dealership sometime ago.
If anyone is interested I have three brief video clips of the fire on my RUclips channel.
Did the mayor take the scba from the firefighter
Great video man! Poor firefighting tactics and management! They were only fighting a reactive fire (defensive) and not proactive (offensive).
If it's a truss roof and heavily involved, it's not worth sending people in
Zero reason to enter the building. Don't risk lives for damaged furniture. Did you not see the two brick chimneys? You don't seem to know much about reading a fire scene. Please keep paying attention and learning from professionals.
@@mattnew1773 my response should have read it's not worth sending people in.
@@emt5330 Do any of you responders realize how small that fire was at the beginning? That roof wasn't compromised at all. Not unless you consider how much useless water they put on it.
@@mattnew1773 You have no clue whatsoever, Matt!
GAS LINE IS FEEDIMG THAT FIRE. SHUT THE GAS OFF
Fire wall between the buildings seems to be working well
At 5 minutes into the video I was wondering why they weren't opening all the windows and shooting streams in. Then... 7 minutes in! Blam!
Notice how they left the door open to feed those gasses? 3:40. They were waiting and working for it to flash!
Well... that got worse! Lol. Looked pretty warm, nice footage.
A lot more than just warm lol
Is that all you have to say? How about how they didn't do a thing to stop this?
Hella Fire
Wow! Did it finally just run out of fuel?
after the windows blew a semi fog pattern would have been their best friend cause it would gave a wider dispersion than a master stream and would have cooled the area quicker. 15yrs in Illinois fire service.
Even those master streams would have been effective if they weren't aimed at the floor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have to make sure that any cone of water can overcome the energy of the fire or wind. That was a blast furnace coming out the front! But otherwise, you are correct.
Thats a very mean fire... good lord....
Almost like they wanted the whole building to burn.....😒😒
Now you're getting the picture.
I wonder if that building was originally a car dealership I caught the word motors on original signage.
what editer you use
Question ❓ Why did they back that ladder truck so close to the building? I'm sure water could have reached it from safe distance.
I think they are protecting the new truck; did you see what a POS that thing was.
@@thenussbaum44 squad 2? New Rosenbauer? That truck?
@@nubbyg9096 No that POS LTI, I think it is ladder 5.
@@thenussbaum44 I see it now. Looks like a reserve, the 5 is faded. It is a POS
Oh man would have liked to have seen that flash over.
Wouldn't we all have. Too much moving around by the photographer instead of concentrating on the fire.
That's what the departments was waiting and working for. Notice how they left the door open to feed those hot gasses. 3:40
Squad 2 might have got a little scorched
The late arriving TL got it more.
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Anyone familiar with Chicago? What kind of neighborhood is that? Good, bad, average?
It must be a real pain getting sufficient water supply to feed all those aerial apparatus!
One Engine with a full tank of onboard water, applied by responsible thinkers, could have Prevented the small fire from getting this big. This was a case of arson BY the Chicago Fire Department!
What was burning so fiercely?
Everything that they weren't getting any water on, which is everything!
Furniture stores. Always stubborn fires to put out. Lots of fuel. Wood, fabrics, plastics,
varnishes, etc.
A lot of fuel in there!!!
was this an old auto dealer at one point? so much loss
Great video
I see you missed when the trusses fell...
Insurance job?
I wished you could cover more instead of jus a few minutes.
You have to realize I am primarily a still photographer I do the video strictly as a sideline and grab what I can between still images
@@SRResquire i understand, I just really enjoy watching CFD on a good job like that. Im from Chicago but moved to ky where i became a Firefighter. Sucks here tho, we never have any fires, maybe once a year. In all honesty tho, if you did make fire videos you wouldn't have much competition cause you appear to know what your doin. Keep up the good work.
@@SRResquire correct me if im wrong but cant u pull stills from a video or is the pixel quality different.
@@ChiraqVet You can when you shoot 4K video but I still prefer regular composed properly lit with a flash still shots which you really can’t get with Video
I mean no disrespect but I'm seeing lots of "old guys" (I'm an old guy) I suppose the fire fighting trade isn't much different than other trades, less younger people interested in learning the craft.
Not worth it honestly
I'm a retired old guy from the Suburbs, my old department had 2 or 3 show up for the last hiring test...Seems to be diminished interest and people are getting on the bigger, better paying and more action departments...To my understanding Chicago is in good shape attracting new hires but not like it use to be...The Burbs are drained, like a power vacuum...
What the USA work force needs is, a strong and responsible Work Ethic! A 90-year-old with that work ethic would have gone in the front door, which they left open to feed the fire, found what was burning and put tank water on it. This fire could have been completely stopped before this video even started. Just like most fires you see on RUclips.
I think FDNY need to come out there and show them how to do a good interior attack so it don't get this far dam
This is used as a training video in some departments
The FDNY couldn't have burned that building down any better than these clowns did. Afterall, the FDNY IS the worst department in the world and every one of their videos Prove that statement.
@@jayasmrmore3687 Training for WHAT? How NOT to fight a fire?
@@JB91710 exactly. Learning from other mistakes
@@jayasmrmore3687 I would love to know what people learned from this.
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Great video, maybe some foam.
With that amount of fire and heat, foam would have had no more affect than just water did. We tried foam on a paint fire a few years ago, to no effect. It just bubbled off with all the heat.
@@jamesfraser4173 compared to JP4 JET fuel. Polystyrene and other plastic used to make mattresses burn like petroleum-based materials. That's why I suggested that. As urban firefighters we forget our resources, airports are on s mutual aid agree with most municipal fire departments. Crash trucks to great job at fires.
Maybe, get the water ON the burning material instead of the roof and floor?
Porque no entraron desde el principio a controlarlo desde el interior? Mala decisión de permitir que se extienda! Q pena por el propietario del local que se consumió en su totalidad y del local de al lado..
That was poorly handled
How so?
@@mattnew1773 Read every one of my comments here.
West coast ff do it better! Why do you still use a snorkel? Get with the times antiquated equipment!