There R Mental Health Stigma in the U.K. See: Certain Parts of:- Doncaster, Hull and Scunthorpe .... See Also Places Like:- Jaywick is a coastal village in the Tendring District of Essex. ruclips.net/video/NGxWgAuWVa8/видео.html "Inside England's Most Deprived Town: The Truth". ------------------------------------------------------------ Being Sane and anything In-between is a matter of Prospective; Conjecture and Professional Opinion...... (When I say Professional; I mean Genuine Registered Chartered Clinical Psychiatrists!).......And; they R very Few and Far-Between...... [***Hopefully; NOT Hannibal Lecter,.....than U would be in Serious Trouble!***].....😁😁😁 Just because these Two Clowns Above appear:- 'Confident' in What they R Talking about.....Doe NOT mean they R Not talking Boll*cks.... Singapore is a First-World Entity;........with State-of-the-Art 21St Century Infrastructure....... It's Schools, Universities and Hospitals R World Class....The City Delivers Olympic Gold Winning Athletes and Nobel Prize Winners.... These two 'Chancers' should Just Go Home.....Start folding Suet and Lard.......Scoff a few Spuds or Something; Us East Asians R Just NOT Buying!
You see, this interviewee just gives off a calm, kind and non-arrogant vibe, WAY different from the one who wore glasses 👓. I especially love hearing his take on people not being able to understand him although he uses English and this is an English speaking country. Noticed how he did not mention Singaporeans per se but just referenced people in general. I appreciate how he mentioned mental health and sharing his experience and opinions on it being a stigma in Singapore. Thank you.
The Population of Singapore is 96% East Asian. Many of Which are from Malay and Chinese Descent! (They Only Speak:- Chinese/Hakka, Etc.) Remember the History of Singapore in the Second World War......When the Entire 05th British Army Surrendered to the Japanese without Firing a Single Shot! All 140,000 Military Personnel, surrendered....(After that; the Brits. were a Laughing Stock! In the Whole of East Asia!)......U R Not Bulletproof! U know stuff like Tenko and All that..... East Asia doesn't Really want to "Link-Up"; with the U.K. anymore.....the U.K. is Superfluous;.....(A Has-Been.....) Superpowers like China would rather link-up with the; Now...Very United Germany; France, Italy, Holland and the:- (U.S.) for Trade..... What aspect of U.K. Goods do East Asia Really Need.....The Answer is (None)! Eastern Philosophy has been around for Multiple Millennia.....Mental Health Problems among the Common Layman is Nothing New..... Unless U have something Ground Breaking to Peddle....(And this I'd Doubt....!!!); The only thing we want from the U.K. is the three Most Precious of Metals....Starting with Silver, Etc.....Capiche?! Larte Swigging, Time-Wasters......Just Go Home to Drab, Rainy Blighty.....U know it make sense......
It’s the hypocrisy of “innovative, forward thinking & having empathy” culture. But in reality nobody is truly forgiving, experienced workers hate change & love gatekeeping knowledge to ensure their own job security.
Those gate keeping knowledge are actually from across the border. They do this because they wanted to remain working and getting citizenship. Out of 10 people i came across majority around 8/10 are like this. The 2/10 that do not behave like this are entrepreneurs - they carry the traits to after they are done they will do something else and move on. These are the sort that get jobs faster because they carry different embodiment to skill sets thus they kept moving up the ladder. Those that gate keep - they rot and are even more insecure as age gets them. Avoid such folks just make sure to tio their mistake so they can be sent back usually they have alot of mistakes.
I am a Singaporean, born and raised. Mental health issues definitely are a stigma here. Life hasn't been great for me in past years, and it worsened last year when I committed suicide and the police was called and sent to the mental health institute. Since then, finding a job has been way tougher for me, I had never given up, and even opened to raising awareness about this stigma, but it is often seen as a weakness, even amongst friends and families. I respect what you are doing, and hopefully one day you can make a much bigger impact, and spread awareness to mental health stigma in Singapore.
Think the tough guy attitude is useful for helping people 'not give an F' and try be less stress. But sometimes it just doesn't work. I used to work in community mental health and there's less stigma than 2 decades ago but its still pretty out of sight out of mind for the general public. Cos the details and more severe conditions are not well known, so recognition by family/ peers/ others is already hard, and even more painful for those who are suffering. Importance of Mental Health doesn't hit people unless they themselves or loved ones start suffering from it. Think talking about it publicly without worry about self image or shame to others, will definately help raise awareness. Thank you so much!!
@@boredscientist5756 His accent is on the heavy side. Most Singaporeans are more used to US English. There's nothing wrong with using Singlish in informal situations. If you don't like can block all Singaporeans or GTFO if you're in SG.
Yup! Open up. Have a chatgroup: "I just wanna talk" 'You want to say something?" Harness listening skill not judgement. EQ + empathy + compassion. Express & choose to be happy. Everyone is different, have different perspective, opinion & what they say mean different thing to different ppl.
Mental health still has a big stigma here, but when adults ask me about this issue (mind you im just a kid getting an associates degree in psychology), I would say the problem would get better by itself, since the younger people are much more open to this. Kudos to this man for doing something I did as well on a smaller scale. It was not easy, so I cant fanthom the struggles he faces.
Many people in Singapore are comfortable communicating in english but most uses their mother tongue(Chinese, Tamil, Malay) at home. Thus we're mostly only exposed to local accents and can be hard to understand foreign accents even if you're speaking in english. I consider myself well exposed to american and british accents as i love watching a lot of american/english tv series, but when I spent a year in Australia awhile back, there were times where I found it difficult to understand them especially in the rural north region.
Jethro is a rare gem of a person…..practically an angel among men. (If you ever read this, thank you for all that you do 🙏🏻) We desperately need compassionate people like him in this cold, selfish, materialistic corner of the world. I think Asians in general have a very backward attitude towards mental health, seeing it less as an illness and more of a character flaw. Before the pandemic, I was fired from my job at Lion Air simply because one of the higher ups had heard that I was taking antidepressants and had previously had a stay at a mental health institution here, even going as far as to reprimand the person who had hired me and insinuate that I was a danger.
What your friend said about mental health being a stigma especially for men is true. But I think we are making baby steps . Like if you read a strait times article reporting about death or suicide, there is information on helpline numbers to call etc. And in my company, there is actually a helpdesk number in case you need someone to talk to. On a personal note, I believe one's mental wellness, like one's physical wellness, is one's own responsibility. I guess with time and experience, one may also have learnt some lessons or means to keep his sanity intact.
As a local, I find that Singapore is not a very compassionate society and this stems from all the years of stern governance by the PAP during the early years of nation building. Over the years, our government have made efforts to be seen as being more compassionate and genuinely helping the needy (not just giving lip service) but it is still not enough. More can be done to improve social services to reach out to every aspect of society as a whole to protect and take care of it's citizens. It will probably take another 50-60 years (barring any catastrophes) for things to improve for the betterment of every citizen.
It's a mindset. You can't make Compassion appear out of nowhere. From young, the kids are taught to fight for grades and places. Kids are brought up with their parents being replaced by foreigners or people willing to do more. We see why many Western nations are slowly rotting from within when they start to gain fake compassion and a false sense of justice. Most people aren't compassionate enough to care when their rice bowl is on the line.
Sorry for your loss. My Dad also passed on during covid, we could keep him at the parlour for 3 days for friends relatives to pay their respect before creamation on 3rd day. Is really a matter of choice.
Singapore is at the edge of extreme pragmatism. Well, during the Covid pandemic, all the more, people who died are processed more quickly and efficiently. There is no time to linger with sentiments in times like that.
@@1changi We have always been pragmatic as a whole nation, people and government!!!! That has kept the country stable, secure, well rounded, protected and economically strong and structured
I think Singapore handled Covid really well. On paper, it was in a really bad place with a high population density (about 8k people per km^2) and a very high level of public transit usage - both things that tend to drastically increase the rate of propagation of respiratory infections. But at the end of, the death rate was about 350 people per million population - about 1/10 of the rate in the USA despite the latter having far lower (about 1/50th) population density and much lower transit use.
extreme pragmatism? as opposed to extreme idealism? or extremem romanticism? extreme individual primacy? well, welcome to the east. it's not a authoritarian/commie thing. it's really just a eastern thing.
The thing about accents and dialects is what you are trying to achieve. If you want to assert a strong local identity and communicate with friends and family then a broad accent is a winner. In contrast, if you want to assert a global identity and communicate with people from many cultures and language traditions then a more neutral, straightforward fully articulated accent gets your message across more effectively. This latter language mode may not may not win you many friends at the local pub, perhaps best called 'Terran', but it will get you a long way around this lonely planet.
As per what another commenter said, I'm glad on the topic of people not understanding his English, he did not point at Singaporeans and just people here in general. I mean yes, it's funny that English is the primary language in Singapore even though a lot of people have difficulties actually using it. But a lot of people don't realize that 1 in 2 people living in Singapore are foreign born and raised regardless of their residency status. And they would have varying levels of English ability ranging from non-existent to elementary. Even Malaysians who comprise the largest foreign born residents in Singapore, English is a third or fourth language to them, most primarily will speak Malay, Mandarin and then their own Chinese dialect, before learning comprehensive English skills.
Sorry for digressing slightly from the mental illness topic. My mother in law was previously misdiagnosed as having mental problem. As she is ineducated she explained her symptoms to the Dr as being "very afraid" without any reason or cause. The Dr prescribed tranquillisers and sleeping pills that everytime we visit, she would be sleeping. Needless to say without moving a limb, she deteriorated fast. After chatting with her i felt that she may have been misunderstood. I suspected that just like me, she may have frequent heart palpitations due to a weak heart. As my condition improved with supplements recommended by my Dr, i asked her to try the same supplements. Looking at her frail condition then, my sister in law expected her to pass away earlier than my father in law. As it turns out, now 10 years later my mother in law is as lively and energetic as ever. Understanding her own condition help her treat herself with Chinese herbs/tonic too. Sometimes its worthwhile to go for a second or even third opinions. Take care everyone.
Yup, mental health is still a taboo in Singapore. Like the government sure talks about increasing mental health services and all that. However, on the ground, its a different story. Singaporeans don't even take sick leave when they are actually sick. You can see many colleagues still come to work when they are visibly ill, sniffling, coughing. The reason being, they are scared of getting penalised for being ill too many times. So, in many cases, unless the person is literally incapable of moving, they show up to work. Which then causes others to fall sick. That is the tolerance level for many employers in Singapore for physical illness. Mental illness? Mental health? Don't even think about it. You be lucky to have an employer that will allow you a 5 or 10 minute break to take a breather for your mental health. Let alone finding employers that will allow you take leave or off that you are entitled to for the sole purpose of your mental health. The worse offenders are SME employers and quite ironically government employers as well. Their bottom line is how much work can I squeeze, for the lowest pay possible, without you dropping dead. The work culture in Singapore is in a sad state. I doubt things will change anytime soon though.
My deepest condolences for your loss. I hope you are doing well. I am a local Malay Singaporean. I understand his words. I grew up around European and American expats and their children (used to live in Balmoral Park). However, I've listened to someone speaking with a Jordy/Gordy accent. It was challenging!
I remember that someone told me years ago that if you had a medical record for mental health, it would make you less competitive during your job hunting.
In Singapore, we just like to communicate in very short,straightforward questions. Eg:"eat already?" Tomorrow any appointments? Sure? Confirm with him already? So we just kepp to 2 to 3 words per sentence. If we could ask one sentence in just one word, we would too
Yes, cremation is quick if there is no 3-day funeral wake. There is hardly any time to realize what happened. To the medical people, it's just "a body". I heard it myself from a doctor who took his time coming to sign a death certificate and after flirting with the nurse.
On men’s mental health issues, i find that men usually don’t like to talk about it. Or they don’t know how to articulate their feelings. In Singapore, the typical thinking is that it must be work and the problem will do away by itself after a while. Sometimes they are not even aware that they may be in depression.
The stigma is global and is evident in Singapore as well. Frankly here the public and private mental health institutions are adequate. After COVID-19, you can claim SGD500 from medisave for depression and anxiety for example. I do not know of any country in south east asia who does this. Yes, appointments are slow, but then there is the choice of private psychiatrists that can determine life or death. Now, mental health itself is seen as a sign of weakness because the 'strong' person with a heart problem or colon cancer survivor is seen as stronger than a physically strong but mentally sick person. This is stigma number one. Without proper identification, there is also local superstition that one is being 'possessed' (hearing sounds like schizophrenia). so local of all races seek mediums ... instead of psychiatrist because the stigma is still if you see a psychiatrist it means you are 'mad'. With advancements of mental medicine, the 'madness' has been defined into many types, including the differentiate between mental disabilities (autism, ADHD etc) vs depression / anxiety vs the 'real mad' like schizophrenia. All in all the factor as STILL NOT UNDERSTOOD in this era (very sad when we can even send probes to Mars). All the doctors agree on is brain inflammation, neuro chemical imbalances and the extreme ones brain misconstructions (through imaging). so well, in short, mental health is just like any other silent killer like cancer. the sooner it is detected, accepted and then acted upon, the higher chances of regulating closer towards balancing one's life.
The shop assistants are Chinese educated and/or China Chinese or Malaysian Chinese (foreigners, same as hotel industry), so they don't understand English, let alone Yorkshire English. The first language is English but many Singaporeans are Chinese-minded, so the English is actually translated Chinese mixed with some Malay words due to proximity to Malaysia. There are also more China (don't understand English) workers than before and they can be mistaken for locals.
Sorry about the sudden loss of your late wife. I think the hot humid climate to po!lution from Indonesia jungle clearing few years ago exacerbate if we have astma, copd etc. I read a book for doctors sitting MRCGP 2 decades ago.. A professor from UK arrived in Singapore and got sudden asthma attack and disillusion at the Botanical Gdn and later died. The answer was something different prescription in UK and Singapore. I highlighted this because I have same diagnosis above and my first iitineray 3 days itinerary in Singapore is visiting the Botanical Gdn upon arrival in the morning. I also went through similar circumstance but do not recouse to depression drugs. I gradually changed my mindset.
Women have friends to talk abt it but men are different they tend to keep within themselves..n if they can open up n talk it will be easier..for themselves. Talk. N smile n have friends..holiday or cruise..just enjoy n keep stress away..74 yrs old
Singapore prides English as her first language but truth is most locals speaks garbage english.... it's just basic proficiency in speaking but littered with poor grammar and lots of mispronunciation. But either way like the asian way of things - the point is so long it's understood, it's all good.
i find that the tip to use fewer English words is just a way to help us understand better. Our main problem, at least for me, is the accent. Most of us have a pretty decent command of English, it's just the accent that throws us off most of the times. Lol try to be a teeny bit monotone and speak slower, I guess?
Also, age discriminatory terms of addressing people are used. Uncle or auntie. If you feel young, inspired, worthy, beautiful outside of your age, you will be brought down immediately with these terms of address. They don't even address people by name and just call people "uncle" or "auntie". Trying to correct this will lead to further insults on your self-worth & self-esteem.
I feel that foreigners speak English too fast, which is a test for my hearing. I think if you can slow down the speaking speed, it will be easier for the listener to understand.
Great useful interview as usual. Compliments to both. Latent degenerative mental health is causative both psychologically and chemically. Natural dysfunctional mental health is biological. Treatment at its source differs for each category. 🙏❤️🌹
In truth, English is now spoken with different tongues and accent! You have to get accustomed to the way English is spoken around the world as every city becomes more cosmopolitan! British/Queen’s English Yorkshire English Scottish English American English Canadian English Europeans speaking English Chinese speaking English Japanese speaking English Indians speaking English Vietnamese speaking English Thais speaking English Singaporeans’ Singlish Malays speaking English Australian English They all sound different spoken by different ethnicities. The well-educated ones have the privilege to speak better.
Just like Chinese language, in Singapore you have traditional English and simplified English and most locals are more accustomed to the latter 😅. Thanks for another interesting interview!
Well..Just to be clear with u.. Of course English is our first language here in Spore but do take note that 90% of Sporeans speaks good English & e other 10% would be e older generations which clearly we all knw back then..they dont learn English. Msians here still speaks average/good English thou. On top of that, now we have the influx of china, vietnam, indo & other south east asian ppl who came to Spore to either work or simply becoming a Permanent resident. Hence thats y u can see that some workers or staffs cannot understand or speak gd English when u go to the stalls, supermarket, shops or even mid or high luxury boutiques here bcoz some r not local Sporeans. No offence but hope u got some information on that. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Believing in our Creator God as an exercise of faith in, and gratitude to the One sovereign over us in power, goodness and love, is the crucial factor for us to live with meaning and purpose: this requires humility; putting aside pride, a reason per human fallibility that explains the silent, push under the rug lifestyles that jeopardize quality of life.
An expat is sent to Sgp from abroad by her or his employer who pays for the flights, accommodation, and education of any children the expat has. The expat holds an Employment Pass linked to the employer. A foreign worker is employed by someone in Sgp who's responsible for that worker's welfare and conduct. The FW holds a Work Permit linked to the agency that brought the FW into Sgp.
I think the generations of men here born during 1990s and 21st century onwards are more vulnerable to mental health issues and might talk about it plus search for help. Those born before that from the time of kampung upbringing and early public housing are not so affected by it much because they grew up a more simple and basic life, grew up on interests they learn while growing up with other kids!!! Which became their interests or hobbies they grew up with and maybe still doing now, which has occupied their mind and lives that they don't really experience or have mental health issues than those born in the later generations!!!!
@@jon3779 Nah. The expats here are in their own bubble. If you go to their country, they expect you to assimilate. Some of their behaviour are quite off-putting tbh
I understand him perfectly well, haha! Then again, I have good friends in Scotland and Ireland so I guess the Yorkshire accent is pretty easy. I hope that's not taken negatively, though. ;-) I am very sorry about your loss, mate. From your account, that's just so cruel. There was absolutely no humanity during COVID, I say!
The first half is quite irrelevant...so Singapore is small...like convenience of any city in bigger countries...nothing specific about the island's uniqueness
@3.10. Why ? Because of your Yorkshire English accent. I believe not many people in Europe too, will understand you unless you speak with a proper and clearer American accent.
Good times build soft men, and hard times kill them. There is so little parental and family time for our children of the past few generations that we, as a society, has grown soft. We no longer spend time with and teach our children the basics of life and society. They have grown up with little reinforcement of their characters and personalities that they are so susceptible to the ever changing environmental issues. Instead, we gave them lies and false hopes about excelling in education pursuits that will lead to a better life. Are we really better off now privately? I fear for the next few generations.
Sorry to hear about his wife. But typically there is a funeral wake of a few days before cremation or burial, depending on the wish of the family. Only Muslims typically have burial within a day.
He hasnt had time to properly grieve for his wife and even though grieving is a process and takes time, and a few years have passed, it still needs attending to.
If the Spore Govt. Were to accommodate every mental youth…. They will have the same problem workforce like in New Zealand. Youth in NZ lacks resilience, because society allows them. There are ALWAYS legitimate cases of mental youth. We need to be objective. Spore can’t afford to give in to the whim of youth…they have no other resources so they need a strong manpower . I think they do have help for the youth . They want to promote positive attitudes in them too
Brother let me share without to strengthen your mindset, wake up early morning to do your workout, consisting of strength training, cardio and stretching. I guarantee if you do it everyday and you will feel like a new man after 2 weeks.
@@kangkinkang not really i understand what he is saying totally!!!! And for the Aussies who have thick accents, i still understand what you are saying!!! It's all about listening carefully and patiently and even attentively about what they are saying due to their accents!!!!
@@themeaningoflifeexpert as for me, i don't really watch much local TV unless its Talking Point, In the Red Dot and a number of non-local TV shows!!!! I am usually on other channels like Australia ABC channel, BBC Lifestyle channel among others!!!! I am Singaporean but i do not speak Singlish, because from young my parents told me and my siblings it's bad English!!!!
Please share this video with anyone you think might need it ❤🙏
I appreciate both of you for promoting mental health awareness in Singapore.
It's not just Singapore. There is generally a stigma on mental health in Asia culture. We need to do better.
There is stigma in mental health everywhere in the world. Not just in Singapore or in Asia
There R Mental Health Stigma in the U.K. See: Certain Parts of:- Doncaster, Hull and Scunthorpe ....
See Also Places Like:-
Jaywick is a coastal village in the Tendring District of Essex.
ruclips.net/video/NGxWgAuWVa8/видео.html
"Inside England's Most Deprived Town: The Truth".
------------------------------------------------------------
Being Sane and anything In-between is a matter of Prospective; Conjecture and Professional Opinion......
(When I say Professional; I mean Genuine Registered Chartered Clinical Psychiatrists!).......And; they R very Few and Far-Between......
[***Hopefully; NOT Hannibal Lecter,.....than U would be in Serious Trouble!***].....😁😁😁
Just because these Two Clowns Above appear:- 'Confident' in What they R Talking about.....Doe NOT mean they R Not talking Boll*cks....
Singapore is a First-World Entity;........with State-of-the-Art 21St Century Infrastructure.......
It's Schools, Universities and Hospitals R World Class....The City Delivers Olympic Gold Winning Athletes and Nobel Prize Winners....
These two 'Chancers' should Just Go Home.....Start folding Suet and Lard.......Scoff a few Spuds or Something; Us East Asians R Just NOT Buying!
Thank you Max for the interview and Jethro for making our country better with your advocacy.
Very happy with this Max. Thank you. Will share!
The best subject you have interviewed because of the mental health angle and fragility of life. Thanks to Jethro and you, of course!
You see, this interviewee just gives off a calm, kind and non-arrogant vibe, WAY different from the one who wore glasses 👓. I especially love hearing his take on people not being able to understand him although he uses English and this is an English speaking country. Noticed how he did not mention Singaporeans per se but just referenced people in general. I appreciate how he mentioned mental health and sharing his experience and opinions on it being a stigma in Singapore. Thank you.
The Population of Singapore is 96% East Asian. Many of Which are from Malay and Chinese Descent! (They Only Speak:- Chinese/Hakka, Etc.)
Remember the History of Singapore in the Second World War......When the Entire 05th British Army Surrendered to the Japanese without Firing a Single Shot!
All 140,000 Military Personnel, surrendered....(After that; the Brits. were a Laughing Stock! In the Whole of East Asia!)......U R Not Bulletproof!
U know stuff like Tenko and All that.....
East Asia doesn't Really want to "Link-Up"; with the U.K. anymore.....the U.K. is Superfluous;.....(A Has-Been.....)
Superpowers like China would rather link-up with the; Now...Very United Germany; France, Italy, Holland and the:- (U.S.) for Trade.....
What aspect of U.K. Goods do East Asia Really Need.....The Answer is (None)!
Eastern Philosophy has been around for Multiple Millennia.....Mental Health Problems among the Common Layman is Nothing New.....
Unless U have something Ground Breaking to Peddle....(And this I'd Doubt....!!!);
The only thing we want from the U.K. is the three Most Precious of Metals....Starting with Silver, Etc.....Capiche?!
Larte Swigging, Time-Wasters......Just Go Home to Drab, Rainy Blighty.....U know it make sense......
So sorry to hear the passing of your wife. may she rest in peace😢
I am sorry to hear the sudden loss of his wife. It must have been hard to bear the pain. May god bless him and his family.
It’s the hypocrisy of “innovative, forward thinking & having empathy” culture. But in reality nobody is truly forgiving, experienced workers hate change & love gatekeeping knowledge to ensure their own job security.
Those gate keeping knowledge are actually from across the border. They do this because they wanted to remain working and getting citizenship. Out of 10 people i came across majority around 8/10 are like this. The 2/10 that do not behave like this are entrepreneurs - they carry the traits to after they are done they will do something else and move on. These are the sort that get jobs faster because they carry different embodiment to skill sets thus they kept moving up the ladder. Those that gate keep - they rot and are even more insecure as age gets them. Avoid such folks just make sure to tio their mistake so they can be sent back usually they have alot of mistakes.
Appreciate his talking about his experience with his wife's passing and what happened after. Not so easy. 😢
Too many his in your sentence🤦♀️
Sorry for your loss man… 😢
So sorry about the circumstances of your wife's passing.
Wel done max and thanks for sharing Jethro...an important topic that needs to be addressed in Singapore, Asia and globally...
15:39 Exactly, sometimes we just need someone to spend time doing something and talk but avoid the negative thoughts of mental health.
Thank you both for sharing this great video
I am a Singaporean, born and raised.
Mental health issues definitely are a stigma here.
Life hasn't been great for me in past years, and it worsened last year when I committed suicide and the police was called and sent to the mental health institute.
Since then, finding a job has been way tougher for me, I had never given up, and even opened to raising awareness about this stigma, but it is often seen as a weakness, even amongst friends and families.
I respect what you are doing, and hopefully one day you can make a much bigger impact, and spread awareness to mental health stigma in Singapore.
Positive , don’t give up .. 💪🏻💪🏻
You're not alone. I tried 3 times. Be well.
Weakness is all I see in you. Get yourself together, stop being such a cry baby or you can cry about it at home.
I was at IMH too last 2 months. Does it really affect to find job?
@@Fitria111 Based on my exp. Local SMEs do not like prolong gaps between jobs.
Better omit the gaps and do not tell colleagues abt the condition
Singapore has many foreign workers...i guess that's why it's harder for them to understand him...
Think the tough guy attitude is useful for helping people 'not give an F' and try be less stress. But sometimes it just doesn't work. I used to work in community mental health and there's less stigma than 2 decades ago but its still pretty out of sight out of mind for the general public. Cos the details and more severe conditions are not well known, so recognition by family/ peers/ others is already hard, and even more painful for those who are suffering. Importance of Mental Health doesn't hit people unless they themselves or loved ones start suffering from it. Think talking about it publicly without worry about self image or shame to others, will definately help raise awareness. Thank you so much!!
Local Singaporean here. His English is ok. I can understand his speech.
Yup even without the subtitles, I can understand him just fine.
...."His English is ok".... Are you serious? He is talking REAL English, not broken Singlish..... He is not the one having a problem here! 😂
@@boredscientist5756 its just how Singaporeans talk.
What he actually meant was his English was understandable. (“Ok”)
@@cr8815 Thank You
@@boredscientist5756 His accent is on the heavy side. Most Singaporeans are more used to US English. There's nothing wrong with using Singlish in informal situations. If you don't like can block all Singaporeans or GTFO if you're in SG.
His English is perfectly understandable
yeah you mean with the subs. gotcha
Yup! Open up.
Have a chatgroup:
"I just wanna talk"
'You want to say something?"
Harness listening skill not judgement.
EQ + empathy + compassion.
Express & choose to be happy.
Everyone is different, have different perspective, opinion & what they say mean different thing to different ppl.
Thanks max for this interview. There should be more awareness on mental health here.
Thank you for open up this issue. Make the most of what you ve got. LIVE LIFE. etc...
Good man Jethro. Great interview. Sorry for your lost
Mental health still has a big stigma here, but when adults ask me about this issue (mind you im just a kid getting an associates degree in psychology), I would say the problem would get better by itself, since the younger people are much more open to this. Kudos to this man for doing something I did as well on a smaller scale. It was not easy, so I cant fanthom the struggles he faces.
It's a good initiative you're doing sir
Many people in Singapore are comfortable communicating in english but most uses their mother tongue(Chinese, Tamil, Malay) at home. Thus we're mostly only exposed to local accents and can be hard to understand foreign accents even if you're speaking in english. I consider myself well exposed to american and british accents as i love watching a lot of american/english tv series, but when I spent a year in Australia awhile back, there were times where I found it difficult to understand them especially in the rural north region.
Jethro is a rare gem of a person…..practically an angel among men. (If you ever read this, thank you for all that you do 🙏🏻) We desperately need compassionate people like him in this cold, selfish, materialistic corner of the world.
I think Asians in general have a very backward attitude towards mental health, seeing it less as an illness and more of a character flaw. Before the pandemic, I was fired from my job at Lion Air simply because one of the higher ups had heard that I was taking antidepressants and had previously had a stay at a mental health institution here, even going as far as to reprimand the person who had hired me and insinuate that I was a danger.
What your friend said about mental health being a stigma especially for men is true. But I think we are making baby steps . Like if you read a strait times article reporting about death or suicide, there is information on helpline numbers to call etc. And in my company, there is actually a helpdesk number in case you need someone to talk to. On a personal note, I believe one's mental wellness, like one's physical wellness, is one's own responsibility. I guess with time and experience, one may also have learnt some lessons or means to keep his sanity intact.
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As a local, I find that Singapore is not a very compassionate society and this stems from all the years of stern governance by the PAP during the early years of nation building. Over the years, our government have made efforts to be seen as being more compassionate and genuinely helping the needy (not just giving lip service) but it is still not enough. More can be done to improve social services to reach out to every aspect of society as a whole to protect and take care of it's citizens. It will probably take another 50-60 years (barring any catastrophes) for things to improve for the betterment of every citizen.
@@LTeagles16 Of coz. Even the aussie gp, psychiatrist n psychologist put in more effort to understand your situation.
It's a mindset. You can't make Compassion appear out of nowhere. From young, the kids are taught to fight for grades and places. Kids are brought up with their parents being replaced by foreigners or people willing to do more.
We see why many Western nations are slowly rotting from within when they start to gain fake compassion and a false sense of justice.
Most people aren't compassionate enough to care when their rice bowl is on the line.
Sorry for your loss. My Dad also passed on during covid, we could keep him at the parlour for 3 days for friends relatives to pay their respect before creamation on 3rd day. Is really a matter of choice.
Singapore is at the edge of extreme pragmatism. Well, during the Covid pandemic, all the more, people who died are processed more quickly and efficiently. There is no time to linger with sentiments in times like that.
@@1changi We have always been pragmatic as a whole nation, people and government!!!! That has kept the country stable, secure, well rounded, protected and economically strong and structured
I think Singapore handled Covid really well. On paper, it was in a really bad place with a high population density (about 8k people per km^2) and a very high level of public transit usage - both things that tend to drastically increase the rate of propagation of respiratory infections. But at the end of, the death rate was about 350 people per million population - about 1/10 of the rate in the USA despite the latter having far lower (about 1/50th) population density and much lower transit use.
extreme pragmatism? as opposed to extreme idealism? or extremem romanticism? extreme individual primacy? well, welcome to the east. it's not a authoritarian/commie thing. it's really just a eastern thing.
Those working in restaurants/ cafes , retail shops, etc are mostly non~locals thus they don’t speak English well & therefore can’t understand you.
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The thing about accents and dialects is what you are trying to achieve. If you want to assert a strong local identity and communicate with friends and family then a broad accent is a winner. In contrast, if you want to assert a global identity and communicate with people from many cultures and language traditions then a more neutral, straightforward fully articulated accent gets your message across more effectively. This latter language mode may not may not win you many friends at the local pub, perhaps best called 'Terran', but it will get you a long way around this lonely planet.
@ianmann28 His is still alright, wait till your hear the scouse accent from Liverpool that will make it even worst completely don't understand.😂🤣🤣😲
I like Emma Watsons accent.
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Service staff are likely china Chinese or Malaysian that's why they don't understand you
True, its difficult to get Singaporean service staff as most of them are educated and able to find the type of work that suits them.
As per what another commenter said, I'm glad on the topic of people not understanding his English, he did not point at Singaporeans and just people here in general. I mean yes, it's funny that English is the primary language in Singapore even though a lot of people have difficulties actually using it.
But a lot of people don't realize that 1 in 2 people living in Singapore are foreign born and raised regardless of their residency status. And they would have varying levels of English ability ranging from non-existent to elementary. Even Malaysians who comprise the largest foreign born residents in Singapore, English is a third or fourth language to them, most primarily will speak Malay, Mandarin and then their own Chinese dialect, before learning comprehensive English skills.
Really interesting story, he seems like a lovely bloke.
Sorry for digressing slightly from the mental illness topic. My mother in law was previously misdiagnosed as having mental problem. As she is ineducated she explained her symptoms to the Dr as being "very afraid" without any reason or cause. The Dr prescribed tranquillisers and sleeping pills that everytime we visit, she would be sleeping. Needless to say without moving a limb, she deteriorated fast. After chatting with her i felt that she may have been misunderstood. I suspected that just like me, she may have frequent heart palpitations due to a weak heart. As my condition improved with supplements recommended by my Dr, i asked her to try the same supplements. Looking at her frail condition then, my sister in law expected her to pass away earlier than my father in law. As it turns out, now 10 years later my mother in law is as lively and energetic as ever. Understanding her own condition help her treat herself with Chinese herbs/tonic too. Sometimes its worthwhile to go for a second or even third opinions. Take care everyone.
Yup, mental health is still a taboo in Singapore. Like the government sure talks about increasing mental health services and all that. However, on the ground, its a different story. Singaporeans don't even take sick leave when they are actually sick. You can see many colleagues still come to work when they are visibly ill, sniffling, coughing. The reason being, they are scared of getting penalised for being ill too many times. So, in many cases, unless the person is literally incapable of moving, they show up to work. Which then causes others to fall sick.
That is the tolerance level for many employers in Singapore for physical illness. Mental illness? Mental health? Don't even think about it. You be lucky to have an employer that will allow you a 5 or 10 minute break to take a breather for your mental health. Let alone finding employers that will allow you take leave or off that you are entitled to for the sole purpose of your mental health.
The worse offenders are SME employers and quite ironically government employers as well. Their bottom line is how much work can I squeeze, for the lowest pay possible, without you dropping dead. The work culture in Singapore is in a sad state. I doubt things will change anytime soon though.
Thank you Sir for raising metal issues of men!
My deepest condolences for your loss. I hope you are doing well.
I am a local Malay Singaporean.
I understand his words.
I grew up around European and American expats and their children (used to live in Balmoral Park).
However, I've listened to someone speaking with a Jordy/Gordy accent. It was challenging!
I remember that someone told me years ago that if you had a medical record for mental health, it would make you less competitive during your job hunting.
@@donaldneo9400 For gov positions mainly. Private sector just don't declare
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@@wahoowahoo2341 This is the reality. If you're a man and poor, it's worse
In Singapore, we just like to communicate in very short,straightforward questions.
Eg:"eat already?" Tomorrow any appointments? Sure? Confirm with him already? So we just kepp to 2 to 3 words per sentence. If we could ask one sentence in just one word, we would too
Yes, cremation is quick if there is no 3-day funeral wake. There is hardly any time to realize what happened. To the medical people, it's just "a body". I heard it myself from a doctor who took his time coming to sign a death certificate and after flirting with the nurse.
On men’s mental health issues, i find that men usually don’t like to talk about it. Or they don’t know how to articulate their feelings. In Singapore, the typical thinking is that it must be work and the problem will do away by itself after a while. Sometimes they are not even aware that they may be in depression.
The stigma is global and is evident in Singapore as well. Frankly here the public and private mental health institutions are adequate. After COVID-19, you can claim SGD500 from medisave for depression and anxiety for example. I do not know of any country in south east asia who does this. Yes, appointments are slow, but then there is the choice of private psychiatrists that can determine life or death. Now, mental health itself is seen as a sign of weakness because the 'strong' person with a heart problem or colon cancer survivor is seen as stronger than a physically strong but mentally sick person. This is stigma number one. Without proper identification, there is also local superstition that one is being 'possessed' (hearing sounds like schizophrenia). so local of all races seek mediums ... instead of psychiatrist because the stigma is still if you see a psychiatrist it means you are 'mad'. With advancements of mental medicine, the 'madness' has been defined into many types, including the differentiate between mental disabilities (autism, ADHD etc) vs depression / anxiety vs the 'real mad' like schizophrenia. All in all the factor as STILL NOT UNDERSTOOD in this era (very sad when we can even send probes to Mars). All the doctors agree on is brain inflammation, neuro chemical imbalances and the extreme ones brain misconstructions (through imaging). so well, in short, mental health is just like any other silent killer like cancer. the sooner it is detected, accepted and then acted upon, the higher chances of regulating closer towards balancing one's life.
The shop assistants are Chinese educated and/or China Chinese or Malaysian Chinese (foreigners, same as hotel industry), so they don't understand English, let alone Yorkshire English. The first language is English but many Singaporeans are Chinese-minded, so the English is actually translated Chinese mixed with some Malay words due to proximity to Malaysia. There are also more China (don't understand English) workers than before and they can be mistaken for locals.
Sorry about the sudden loss of your late wife. I think the hot humid climate to po!lution from Indonesia jungle clearing few years ago exacerbate if we have astma, copd etc. I read a book for doctors sitting MRCGP 2 decades ago.. A professor from UK arrived in Singapore and got sudden asthma attack and disillusion at the Botanical Gdn and later died. The answer was something different prescription in UK and Singapore. I highlighted this because I have same diagnosis above and my first iitineray 3 days itinerary in Singapore is visiting the Botanical Gdn upon arrival in the morning.
I also went through similar circumstance but do not recouse to depression drugs. I gradually changed my mindset.
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Women have friends to talk abt it but men are different they tend to keep within themselves..n if they can open up n talk it will be easier..for themselves. Talk. N smile n have friends..holiday or cruise..just enjoy n keep stress away..74 yrs old
Hi Max there are million immigrants into Singapore. Majority of immigrants work in the service industry.
Singapore prides English as her first language but truth is most locals speaks garbage english.... it's just basic proficiency in speaking but littered with poor grammar and lots of mispronunciation. But either way like the asian way of things - the point is so long it's understood, it's all good.
@@woshilinlaobei There's nothing using Singlish in informal situations. You can block out all Singlish youtube channels if you're offput by the accent
so when we say we are english-speaking, guess we are expected to know all native accents 😮
I understand what you said coz my daughter in law come from Wales
Can understand you perfectly …..
i find that the tip to use fewer English words is just a way to help us understand better. Our main problem, at least for me, is the accent. Most of us have a pretty decent command of English, it's just the accent that throws us off most of the times. Lol try to be a teeny bit monotone and speak slower, I guess?
Of course, we understand what he's saying. English subtitles given below.
Also, age discriminatory terms of addressing people are used. Uncle or auntie. If you feel young, inspired, worthy, beautiful outside of your age, you will be brought down immediately with these terms of address. They don't even address people by name and just call people "uncle" or "auntie". Trying to correct this will lead to further insults on your self-worth & self-esteem.
Singapore all about the four the money- the 5cs. Mental health is low priority. 5cs the king
I feel that foreigners speak English too fast, which is a test for my hearing. I think if you can slow down the speaking speed, it will be easier for the listener to understand.
Great useful interview as usual. Compliments to both.
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first time here. I can hear the singaporean accent/intonation in your speech even though still very russian.
Why not try an AI Chatbot counsellor?
In Australia more men aged 20 to 45yrs are committing suicide.sad mental issues..now Australia recognising it.not too late to help the young ones
@@kathydavies4589 Its basically almost the same age range everywhere. I tried thrice myself. When we seek help, it's deemed as WEAK
If such incident hppns in Msaia, HK, you may find more stressful to manage yr late wife funeral at a slower speed dued to backlog of Cvid cases.
In truth, English is now spoken with different tongues and accent! You have to get accustomed to the way English is spoken around the world as every city becomes more cosmopolitan!
British/Queen’s English
Yorkshire English
Scottish English
American English
Canadian English
Europeans speaking English
Chinese speaking English
Japanese speaking English
Indians speaking English
Vietnamese speaking English
Thais speaking English
Singaporeans’ Singlish
Malays speaking English
Australian English
They all sound different spoken by different ethnicities. The well-educated ones have the privilege to speak better.
Come to stay in Malaysia and you will like it.
Just like Chinese language, in Singapore you have traditional English and simplified English and most locals are more accustomed to the latter 😅. Thanks for another interesting interview!
Well..Just to be clear with u..
Of course English is our first language here in Spore but do take note that 90% of Sporeans speaks good English & e other 10% would be e older generations which clearly we all knw back then..they dont learn English.
Msians here still speaks average/good English thou.
On top of that, now we have the influx of china, vietnam, indo & other south east asian ppl who came to Spore to either work or simply becoming a Permanent resident.
Hence thats y u can see that some workers or staffs cannot understand or speak gd English when u go to the stalls, supermarket, shops or even mid or high luxury boutiques here bcoz some r not local Sporeans.
No offence but hope u got some information on that.
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Believing in our Creator God as an exercise of faith in, and gratitude to the One sovereign over us in power, goodness and love, is the crucial factor for us to live with meaning and purpose: this requires humility; putting aside pride, a reason per human fallibility that explains the silent, push under the rug lifestyles that jeopardize quality of life.
Pretty appalling on how death was handled. It doesn't sound emphatatic
What's the difference between an expat and a foreign worker?
An expat is sent to Sgp from abroad by her or his employer who pays for the flights, accommodation, and education of any children the expat has. The expat holds an Employment Pass linked to the employer.
A foreign worker is employed by someone in Sgp who's responsible for that worker's welfare and conduct. The FW holds a Work Permit linked to the agency that brought the FW into Sgp.
I think the generations of men here born during 1990s and 21st century onwards are more vulnerable to mental health issues and might talk about it plus search for help. Those born before that from the time of kampung upbringing and early public housing are not so affected by it much because they grew up a more simple and basic life, grew up on interests they learn while growing up with other kids!!! Which became their interests or hobbies they grew up with and maybe still doing now, which has occupied their mind and lives that they don't really experience or have mental health issues than those born in the later generations!!!!
Sad, listed so many countries at the start but missed Malaysia. 🤣
Sad that alot of locals hate angmohs
@@jon3779 Nah. The expats here are in their own bubble. If you go to their country, they expect you to assimilate.
Some of their behaviour are quite off-putting tbh
Singlish: Got appointment or not?
his accent sounds similar to robbie williams, or am i just the only one noticing it?
Is Jethro a Leeds fan?
I understand him perfectly well, haha! Then again, I have good friends in Scotland and Ireland so I guess the Yorkshire accent is pretty easy. I hope that's not taken negatively, though. ;-)
I am very sorry about your loss, mate. From your account, that's just so cruel. There was absolutely no humanity during COVID, I say!
The first half is quite irrelevant...so Singapore is small...like convenience of any city in bigger countries...nothing specific about the island's uniqueness
@3.10. Why ? Because of your Yorkshire English accent. I believe not many people in Europe too, will understand you unless you speak with a proper and clearer American accent.
Is that a Yorkshire accent?
Yep.
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Good times build soft men, and hard times kill them.
There is so little parental and family time for our children of the past few generations that we, as a society, has grown soft. We no longer spend time with and teach our children the basics of life and society. They have grown up with little reinforcement of their characters and personalities that they are so susceptible to the ever changing environmental issues. Instead, we gave them lies and false hopes about excelling in education pursuits that will lead to a better life. Are we really better off now privately?
I fear for the next few generations.
Sorry to hear about his wife. But typically there is a funeral wake of a few days before cremation or burial, depending on the wish of the family. Only Muslims typically have burial within a day.
He hasnt had time to properly grieve for his wife and even though grieving is a process and takes time, and a few years have passed, it still needs attending to.
Mental health can cure through religious therapy and not the opposite
If the Spore Govt. Were to accommodate every mental youth…. They will have the same problem workforce like in New Zealand. Youth in NZ lacks resilience, because society allows them. There are ALWAYS legitimate cases of mental youth. We need to be objective. Spore can’t afford to give in to the whim of youth…they have no other resources so they need a strong manpower . I think they do have help for the youth . They want to promote positive attitudes in them too
wow that was depressing
Singaporen men are very stressed up. There are really too much expectations on them and too much stress from the ladies too.
That's tough hearing bout the wife. Hope he's doing better now.
Brother let me share without to strengthen your mindset, wake up early morning to do your workout, consisting of strength training, cardio and stretching. I guarantee if you do it everyday and you will feel like a new man after 2 weeks.
With many English schools in Singapore, many Singaporeans still don't know what he's saying. WTF
As an Aussie, it’s hard for me understand him too.
@@kangkinkang not really i understand what he is saying totally!!!! And for the Aussies who have thick accents, i still understand what you are saying!!! It's all about listening carefully and patiently and even attentively about what they are saying due to their accents!!!!
You watch local rubbish English shows on TV
@@themeaningoflifeexpert as for me, i don't really watch much local TV unless its Talking Point, In the Red Dot and a number of non-local TV shows!!!! I am usually on other channels like Australia ABC channel, BBC Lifestyle channel among others!!!! I am Singaporean but i do not speak Singlish, because from young my parents told me and my siblings it's bad English!!!!
@@judedecruz53 touchy little fellow aren't you? No need to get so pissed!!
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Post colonial mindset is strong with this Brit.
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Standard of English is pretty low and non standard in Singapore actually. Probably do it better written.