Thank you for this review. You are so thorough it is very much appreciated! I went and bought this same bike, just 2 days in and still learning it, but it is an amazing bike! As a former road bike cyclist with very bad knees, this has me back out on the road and I couldn’t be happier!!
I’m still waiting for the next gen Vado SL - hopefully it’ll be SUUUUUUUPER Lite ….. surely someone can get the weight in the 25-29 pound range without sacrificing battery/motor performance …… let’s go engineers!!
What a great looking bike Court. I've had 3 Specialized bikes (leg bikes) in the past, Stumpjumper, Full Suspension Epic and a Hybrid, really liked them all. I love the sporty build on this, I ride a bit of urban but love to jump curbs and hit some dirt as well and this looks to be perfect for that type of riding. If our family could go down to one car I would surely consider this. Great review!
Hey, thanks Matthew! I love the new aesthetic and feel that their racks, fenders, accessory mounting, touch points, and now the battery are top notch. Gotta love the USB-C port. Lots of attention to detail and a great app!
I've had 3 Stromers an love this last one ST2 Sport belt drive an Stermy Archer 5 speed. I had 100 miles on it last fall an last ride my problems started. 20% left on battery after near 50 miles an battery wouldn't come out. Rich at Crazy Lennys got it out an found a sliver of steel on a connection. That solved that problem but then a wire came out may have been omni. Madison 350 miles away. Then I fell an display again wouldn't come on. My brother in law found two connections pulled out of omni. The shifter cable was stressed the way it was laid out an was stretched about a half inch. It now runs but in 5 gear all the time an in 2nd assist stuck their. Saw a wire that had copper showing. Wires binding on each other. I love the quite power of that bike an can accelerate sitting on seat going up one of the steepest hills in town. They keep telling me to bring it in like I live across the street. What would you do ? Is Stromer on their way out. You don't have any new reviews. Darrell
This is the review I’ve been waiting for! Have a Gen1 Vado4 and interested in this Gen2 version. Will wait for the belt drive to be available. Shame it’s down on torque from my version.
Yeah, but if you get the 5.0 Vado with the belt and Enviolo Automatiq it would offer 90nm of torque. The 3.0 is 50nm and the 4.0 (shown in my video) is 70nm. Perhaps you’ll end up with the same torque!
@@ElectricBikeReview Yes, I’d been looking at the specs and would need the new 5 to be closest the the torque of my 4. But I think even it is slightly down in comparison. However I think I used the Turbo mode only once all of last year so doubt I’d notice!
My wife and I recently purchased two new e bikes. We both turned 69 this year and want to buy a couple of new helmets. What brand, type, and model would you recommend? We live in the Midwest and mainly use the e bikes when camping. Secondly would you recommend a suspension seat post? If so what brand and model? We have had hip and knee replacements. You provide just an outstanding UTube channel! Your comments are really helpful! Thanks for everything you do!
Hi Don! That’s a pretty great question, but too broad to answer off the cuff. Perhaps we could chat about it. Email me at electricbikereview at gmail and maybe we can setup a quick phone chat so I can hear more about your needs, price range etc.
Hi Court, really enjoy your quality content. Can you please do a full review on the Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra FS Pro 2? Really interested in your assessment of this Canadian emtb. Ideally, I'd like to see you test one with the supplementary range extender battery.
Great reviews, you're tremendous resource for those of us shopping. I've really narrowed my search to the Specialized Vado Turbo 4 but was curious if you felt the Trek Allant 7+ was comparable? Between the two, what's your preference? Thank you!
It seems I missed the recent 1st round of preorders for the belt drive version of this ebike. I’d really like to buy a red 4.0 or 5.0 with a belt drive, but local bike shops near me can’t even order them. The bike shops told me my likely only chance to buy one will be to order from Specialized online during their tiny preorder windows, and have the bike shipped to my local bike shop for assembly.
Yeah, the Brose motors tend to be some of the smoothest and quietest! My ride time with this bike was a bit limited, and it was a windy day, but I’m glad you got a food feel from the footage I did capture :)
Honestly, it has been so long since I rode the other Vado (and I’ve tested so many bikes in between), it’s difficult to say whether there is much of a geometry change. The tires are different, and I like them. The motor is similar if not the same, the app has gotten better, I like the new displays a lot. Hope this helps :)
Thank you so much for your reviews of this and the Como 3.0 IGH. I've been debating between the Como 3.0 IGH and the Vado 3.0 IGH step through and honestly those two bikes looking almost identical in specs and it was really confusing the difference between them is but this review and your Como review really helped clarify a lot of things. Obviously you're reviewing the 4.0 here so there are things that don't apply but you were so thorough with both of them I can kind of extrapolate what the Vado 3.0 IGH step through would be like. Right now I'm really leaning towards the Vado over the Como. The Vado just looks a little more robust and I like the handlebar situation better.
Curt, I just purchased a 5.0 turbo vado. I find the range estimator on the mastermind computer to be very inaccurate. Really disappointing for a bike at this price point. What was your experience?
A little odd with stand down that the forks didn't turn left as they would have if on normal surface so that the wheel was not in the way removing battery. Maybe I missed comment where wheel was going to be positioned & done intentionally to hit the fender when releasing the battery, Then left that way. Previous review by Specialized of the Vado and Como, internal gearing, step less shifting with Enviolo IGH, gear selection from a traffic stop was epic. Belt drive will be the way. Still not convinced with action of any of these designed front telescopic forks reaction to bumps. Appears to have too much internal stiction to respond. Springs too stiff, oil air not set up right? I'll need to find local shop to try show room floor test. A little rear suspension would be nice as well. Can't wait for review by anyone coming out of store with gallon of milk and typical items for breakfast with grocery tote bag, and now what, no saddle bags, so try to secure to rear rack or sling bag over handle bars. And hope it doesn't fail on first bump. Granted backpack is option. But a pitstop for six pack of beer for NFL is needed as well. Fans waiting are brutal. Cheers
Thanks for the review. Looking between this and the new Como 4.0 or a 3.0 with the IGH for my wife and I. I’m about to pull the trigger on the new Como but I like the Vados looks more.
After only a few hundred dry miles from new I discovered pit marks on the chrome stanchions of my Vado 4.0 2022. Specialized told me to ask my dealer to put in a warranty claim to SR Suntour but they say rust is not covered under warranty. I am not impressed that a brand new £4000 bike can suffer rust despite never actually getting wet (UK weather is poor but I've never had this happen before) and that it is not covered by warranty. BEWARE !
Hey Mike! Glad you found the video useful, I do like this bike and this brand a lot. I don't actually own an ebike at the moment (though I've owned many over the years). I only own one regular bike right now, and it's my five year old Specialized Stumpjumper mountain bike :D
Didn't see any UL sticker on the battery; so I guess it isn't. Seems that Specialized has until late August this year to sell or remove all it's E-bikes in NYC. Can't understand why a big company like them hasn't had the UL certifications done on their E-bikes.
I just got my wife the Vado 4.0 Turbo SL step-through. Absolutely awesome bike, but I think it's kind of lame that it doesn't come with the TCD. $4,000 bike and they wanna get another $90 out of you. Come on.
Very nice bike.. Just wish it had an adjustable front stem to get the perfect handlebar position.. For that price they should make an adjustable stem available.. (at least I don't think its adjustable).. BTW.. Court you do a great job with your reviews.. You are the best!!
@@kartenalexos8348 Thanks for the info Karten.. I am glad that the handle bars are adjustable .. and they should be at that price.. Thanks for letting me know..
@@cward2986 When I talk about an adjustable stem.. I have seen stems that are adjustable.. I have one on my bike. I mean adjustable in every way.. Make the handlebars higher or lower.. and you can make the handlebars closer to the rider or farther away from the rider. So you can get a custom adjustment that is perfect and comfortable for every rider. I can't believe that more bikes don't have an adjustable stem.. most bikes don't have an adjustable stem and that forces the rider to have only one position for the handle bars. And that one position, unfortunately, could be uncomfortable for the rider.
i appreciate that you are going in to troubles to get these bikes to review them, but you are spending so much time telling us about the bike parts, which we can actually check out on the website. We are interested more on the way that the bike rides especially in difficult conditions, like hills, rough road, is the 70 NM enough? would 90 be better in areas with hills? How does this gearing system compares with shimano traditional gears....and more important technical staff. Not everyone has 4000$ dollars to buy a bicycle, its worth as much as a second hand car, so its actually a replacement in a way. So the more we know the easier to get an idea if it suits us or not. We don't really care to know so much about its looks. Don't take me wrong, you seem like a nice man, its just my opinion and where I live, I have no access to bikes like that and my area is full of hills. I need 35 minutes a day to ride to work and back.
Seems nice, but I read the Brose motors are not really reliable and consume more battery power than other motors, thus limiting the range. Also, that motor does not sound quieter than Yamaha motors. What do you think?
Wow, a competitive eBike from Specialized. This is essentially a clone of the Gazelle Medeo T10+, priced similarly, but with lower torque, non-Bosch system (shift detection), no cafe lock, a lot less suspension travel, smaller wheels and tires, only dual piston calipers, and much heavier.
Gazelle has been doing an excellent job, it’s nice to have competition and I think both companies are making an exciting hybrid. I agree that the Bosch sensors and ecosystem is very tough to beat!
Specialized Vado 4 offers much more than Gazelle Amedeo T10+. 710Wh battery vs 500Wh only. Prob the best on board computer display with best app control I have seen compared to Bosch system atleast. 80mm travel fork on Vado 4 vs 63mm on Gazelle, suspension seat post vs no suspension post, 11 speed derailleur vs 10 speed, miles ahead rear rack with integrated rear lights that look sleek with MIK HD rack system built in with 27KG limit, built in theft alarm and ability to lock bike and disable motor with a pin code and lifetime warranty on the frame. USB type C charging port.
His reviews are better than others...hits all the important points (though he may get overexcited with reflective tire sidewalls LOL), other ebike video presenters are hands-everywhere crazy compared to Court!
Wow, I get sea sick at 21:30. Wrong direction on the sidewalk, through the cars, through the grass, all at massive speed. I'll go to the Efteling if I want that feeling.... (the Dutch equivalent of Disney Land). Why don't you just ride it on the road as a motor cycle? At 1/3rd the lane width on the left of the lane. On that lush green strip behind housing you will catapult kids on scooters and moms with buggy's.
I believe that the bike path is only on that one side of the road, which is a very large and busy one like a highway. I scouted the trails, and it was not busy because this was a very cold day (despite the sunshine), but I appreciate your feedback. I had very limited time with this bike and used my footage to and from the park as part of the ride test. Will try to be safer next time.
5k .. gas, insurance, registration, can’t even ride on trails or grass hahaha If all your doing is riding around town and don’t need to go over 30 mph.. get a 4k ebike
I just bought one of these!! Your reviews have been f***ing clutch! I really appreciate how thorough and honest you are with all of your reviews.
Thank you for this review. You are so thorough it is very much appreciated! I went and bought this same bike, just 2 days in and still learning it, but it is an amazing bike! As a former road bike cyclist with very bad knees, this has me back out on the road and I couldn’t be happier!!
Getting ready to pull the trigger, any regrets? Any advise for a new purchaser? Thanks in advance!!
I got that bike in red a month ago and absolutely love it! I have had a couple other ebikes but this bike is by far the best!
I've said it once at this point, but holy milkmaids, your reviews are so in depth, I love it.
Wonderful review....getting ready to purchase this bike. Feel like a kid at Christmas!
I’m still waiting for the next gen Vado SL - hopefully it’ll be SUUUUUUUPER Lite ….. surely someone can get the weight in the 25-29 pound range without sacrificing battery/motor performance …… let’s go engineers!!
That sounds awesome :D the SL line is one of my favorites on the whole industry. They’re actually quite fast and satisfying.
Great review. I am looking at the Turbo Vado 4 so informative
What a great looking bike Court. I've had 3 Specialized bikes (leg bikes) in the past, Stumpjumper, Full Suspension Epic and a Hybrid, really liked them all. I love the sporty build on this, I ride a bit of urban but love to jump curbs and hit some dirt as well and this looks to be perfect for that type of riding. If our family could go down to one car I would surely consider this. Great review!
Hey, thanks Matthew! I love the new aesthetic and feel that their racks, fenders, accessory mounting, touch points, and now the battery are top notch. Gotta love the USB-C port. Lots of attention to detail and a great app!
Wow- You're exceptionally thorough- thanks a ton!
I've had 3 Stromers an love this last one ST2 Sport belt drive an Stermy Archer 5 speed. I had 100 miles on it last fall an last ride my problems started. 20% left on battery after near 50 miles an battery wouldn't come out. Rich at Crazy Lennys got it out an found a sliver of steel on a connection. That solved that problem but then a wire came out may have been omni. Madison 350 miles away. Then I fell an display again wouldn't come on. My brother in law found two connections pulled out of omni. The shifter cable was stressed the way it was laid out an was stretched about a half inch. It now runs but in 5 gear all the time an in 2nd assist stuck their. Saw a wire that had copper showing. Wires binding on each other. I love the quite power of that bike an can accelerate sitting on seat going up one of the steepest hills in town. They keep telling me to bring it in like I live across the street. What would you do ? Is Stromer on their way out. You don't have any new reviews. Darrell
This is the review I’ve been waiting for! Have a Gen1 Vado4 and interested in this Gen2 version. Will wait for the belt drive to be available. Shame it’s down on torque from my version.
Yeah, but if you get the 5.0 Vado with the belt and Enviolo Automatiq it would offer 90nm of torque. The 3.0 is 50nm and the 4.0 (shown in my video) is 70nm. Perhaps you’ll end up with the same torque!
@@ElectricBikeReview Yes, I’d been looking at the specs and would need the new 5 to be closest the the torque of my 4. But I think even it is slightly down in comparison. However I think I used the Turbo mode only once all of last year so doubt I’d notice!
Starting to research E.Bikes for the wife and I. Thank you for the information, great job 👍🏽
Dollar for Dollar best ebikes available.
Yeah, I agree. Really loving the new displays, app, fenders, racks, and battery design that Specialized is using on their bikes :)
Really glad to see that you are still doing the videos! And very successful at that!
Thanks Cort! You’re the best eBike Reviewer.
Specialized uses Brose motors, smooth as butter and no noise.
They also use MAHLE motors for the SL models, and they’re great in my opinion.
Gotta love real fenders 🚲🤟😎
Right on Braxton! I’d say they are the best in the whole industry right now.
My wife and I recently purchased two new e bikes. We both turned 69 this year and want to buy a couple of new helmets. What brand, type, and model would you recommend? We live in the Midwest and mainly use the e bikes when camping. Secondly would you recommend a suspension seat post? If so what brand and model? We have had hip and knee replacements. You provide just an outstanding UTube channel! Your comments are really helpful! Thanks for everything you do!
Hi Don! That’s a pretty great question, but too broad to answer off the cuff. Perhaps we could chat about it. Email me at electricbikereview at gmail and maybe we can setup a quick phone chat so I can hear more about your needs, price range etc.
Hi Court, really enjoy your quality content. Can you please do a full review on the Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra FS Pro 2? Really interested in your assessment of this Canadian emtb. Ideally, I'd like to see you test one with the supplementary range extender battery.
Great reviews, you're tremendous resource for those of us shopping. I've really narrowed my search to the Specialized Vado Turbo 4 but was curious if you felt the Trek Allant 7+ was comparable? Between the two, what's your preference?
Thank you!
It seems I missed the recent 1st round of preorders for the belt drive version of this ebike. I’d really like to buy a red 4.0 or 5.0 with a belt drive, but local bike shops near me can’t even order them. The bike shops told me my likely only chance to buy one will be to order from Specialized online during their tiny preorder windows, and have the bike shipped to my local bike shop for assembly.
Interesting, thanks foe the feedback about availability! I hope you’re able to get one, and I love the red color too :)
This Bike Gives me the old school lowrider biker vibes i want one but the top bottle holder I’d use for my JBL FLIP 6 💯
I’d like to know where you can buy a 45km/h Vado in Canada. Here in Calgary they are limited to 32km/h. Thanks. Very well done videos!!
That is a quiet motor Court...
Yeah, the Brose motors tend to be some of the smoothest and quietest! My ride time with this bike was a bit limited, and it was a windy day, but I’m glad you got a food feel from the footage I did capture :)
Hi Court, as far as the handling compared to last years, if the much of a difference and if so how?
Thanks Court for your countless well done reviews.
Honestly, it has been so long since I rode the other Vado (and I’ve tested so many bikes in between), it’s difficult to say whether there is much of a geometry change. The tires are different, and I like them. The motor is similar if not the same, the app has gotten better, I like the new displays a lot. Hope this helps :)
Thank you so much for your reviews of this and the Como 3.0 IGH. I've been debating between the Como 3.0 IGH and the Vado 3.0 IGH step through and honestly those two bikes looking almost identical in specs and it was really confusing the difference between them is but this review and your Como review really helped clarify a lot of things. Obviously you're reviewing the 4.0 here so there are things that don't apply but you were so thorough with both of them I can kind of extrapolate what the Vado 3.0 IGH step through would be like. Right now I'm really leaning towards the Vado over the Como. The Vado just looks a little more robust and I like the handlebar situation better.
Curt, I just purchased a 5.0 turbo vado. I find the range estimator on the mastermind computer to be very inaccurate. Really disappointing for a bike at this price point. What was your experience?
A little odd with stand down that the forks didn't turn left as they would have if on normal surface
so that the wheel was not in the way removing battery.
Maybe I missed comment where wheel was going to be positioned & done intentionally to hit the fender
when releasing the battery, Then left that way.
Previous review by Specialized of the Vado and Como, internal gearing, step less shifting
with Enviolo IGH, gear selection from a traffic stop was epic. Belt drive will be the way.
Still not convinced with action of any of these designed front telescopic forks reaction to bumps.
Appears to have too much internal stiction to respond. Springs too stiff, oil air not set up right?
I'll need to find local shop to try show room floor test. A little rear suspension would be nice as well.
Can't wait for review by anyone coming out of store with gallon of milk and typical items for breakfast
with grocery tote bag, and now what, no saddle bags, so try to secure to rear rack or sling bag over handle bars.
And hope it doesn't fail on first bump. Granted backpack is option.
But a pitstop for six pack of beer for NFL is needed as well. Fans waiting are brutal.
Cheers
Thanks for the review. Looking between this and the new Como 4.0 or a 3.0 with the IGH for my wife and I. I’m about to pull the trigger on the new Como but I like the Vados looks more.
I just picked up the union 2 super fun ebike
After only a few hundred dry miles from new I discovered pit marks on the chrome stanchions of my Vado 4.0 2022. Specialized told me to ask my dealer to put in a warranty claim to SR Suntour but they say rust is not covered under warranty. I am not impressed that a brand new £4000 bike can suffer rust despite never actually getting wet (UK weather is poor but I've never had this happen before) and that it is not covered by warranty. BEWARE !
Great information. Specialize is pricey but may be worth it. What kind of ebike do you own? Thanks
Hey Mike! Glad you found the video useful, I do like this bike and this brand a lot. I don't actually own an ebike at the moment (though I've owned many over the years). I only own one regular bike right now, and it's my five year old Specialized Stumpjumper mountain bike :D
Thank you :)
Didn't see any UL sticker on the battery; so I guess it isn't. Seems that Specialized has until late August this year to sell or remove all it's E-bikes in NYC. Can't understand why a big company like them hasn't had the UL certifications done on their E-bikes.
I just got my wife the Vado 4.0 Turbo SL step-through. Absolutely awesome bike, but I think it's kind of lame that it doesn't come with the TCD. $4,000 bike and they wanna get another $90 out of you. Come on.
How does she still like it?
I’m looking to getting the white 2.0 it has 1000 miles on it there asking $1300 , does that seam like a good price?
I just bought one… please help my hub when coasting seems really LOUD. Is this normal??? Thank you in advance for any responses ❤️
Very nice bike.. Just wish it had an adjustable front stem to get the perfect handlebar position.. For that price they should make an adjustable stem available.. (at least I don't think its adjustable).. BTW.. Court you do a great job with your reviews.. You are the best!!
When I talked to customer service, they said handle bars are adjustable
@@kartenalexos8348 Thanks for the info Karten.. I am glad that the handle bars are adjustable .. and they should be at that price.. Thanks for letting me know..
Adjustable in what way? The stem does not appear to have an adjustable angle.
@@cward2986 When I talk about an adjustable stem.. I have seen stems that are adjustable.. I have one on my bike. I mean adjustable in every way.. Make the handlebars higher or lower.. and you can make the handlebars closer to the rider or farther away from the rider. So you can get a custom adjustment that is perfect and comfortable for every rider. I can't believe that more bikes don't have an adjustable stem.. most bikes don't have an adjustable stem and that forces the rider to have only one position for the handle bars. And that one position, unfortunately, could be uncomfortable for the rider.
I wish they made one without the front suspension.
the specialized website says the front chain ring has 48 teeth, not 40 as mentioned here. Which is correct?
Very, very good video 👌
Can I pair a garmin Varia with the computer? I know the Vado 5.0 has it standard, but I assume they both actually use the same computer for 2022.
+1 same question. I’d prefer the 5.0 but they are no longer available anywhere.
Why doesn’t it have the horn like the 2.0
i appreciate that you are going in to troubles to get these bikes to review them, but you are spending so much time telling us about the bike parts, which we can actually check out on the website. We are interested more on the way that the bike rides especially in difficult conditions, like hills, rough road, is the 70 NM enough? would 90 be better in areas with hills? How does this gearing system compares with shimano traditional gears....and more important technical staff. Not everyone has 4000$ dollars to buy a bicycle, its worth as much as a second hand car, so its actually a replacement in a way. So the more we know the easier to get an idea if it suits us or not. We don't really care to know so much about its looks. Don't take me wrong, you seem like a nice man, its just my opinion and where I live, I have no access to bikes like that and my area is full of hills. I need 35 minutes a day to ride to work and back.
Can you swap that rear magnet on the disc to hack the speed? 😂
Seems nice, but I read the Brose motors are not really reliable and consume more battery power than other motors, thus limiting the range. Also, that motor does not sound quieter than Yamaha motors. What do you think?
DO THE TEROOOOO
I think I did! Is this the one? electricbikereview.com/specialized/turbo-tero-4-0-eq/
What do people put on the lower bar. I couldn't fit a water bottle holder.
there is a tiny tool kit... why bother though? or a Tire Pump?
I mounted an Abus Bordo 6100c folding lock bracket and lock.
Wow, a competitive eBike from Specialized. This is essentially a clone of the Gazelle Medeo T10+, priced similarly, but with lower torque, non-Bosch system (shift detection), no cafe lock, a lot less suspension travel, smaller wheels and tires, only dual piston calipers, and much heavier.
Gazelle has been doing an excellent job, it’s nice to have competition and I think both companies are making an exciting hybrid. I agree that the Bosch sensors and ecosystem is very tough to beat!
Specialized Vado 4 offers much more than Gazelle Amedeo T10+. 710Wh battery vs 500Wh only. Prob the best on board computer display with best app control I have seen compared to Bosch system atleast. 80mm travel fork on Vado 4 vs 63mm on Gazelle, suspension seat post vs no suspension post, 11 speed derailleur vs 10 speed, miles ahead rear rack with integrated rear lights that look sleek with MIK HD rack system built in with 27KG limit, built in theft alarm and ability to lock bike and disable motor with a pin code and lifetime warranty on the frame. USB type C charging port.
Km?
Seems to me, the bottom bottle would be unusable. No space.
1 amp USB charge port outdated, will not charge the latest phones that need 2 amps
Really funny, when talking how clean this bike is did you see the cabling in the front? When this cabling means clean to you, you really missed it!
Can any of these guys talk without their hands?
His reviews are better than others...hits all the important points (though he may get overexcited with reflective tire sidewalls LOL), other ebike video presenters are hands-everywhere crazy compared to Court!
Wow, I get sea sick at 21:30. Wrong direction on the sidewalk, through the cars, through the grass, all at massive speed. I'll go to the Efteling if I want that feeling.... (the Dutch equivalent of Disney Land). Why don't you just ride it on the road as a motor cycle? At 1/3rd the lane width on the left of the lane. On that lush green strip behind housing you will catapult kids on scooters and moms with buggy's.
I believe that the bike path is only on that one side of the road, which is a very large and busy one like a highway. I scouted the trails, and it was not busy because this was a very cold day (despite the sunshine), but I appreciate your feedback. I had very limited time with this bike and used my footage to and from the park as part of the ride test. Will try to be safer next time.
But it's so heavy!
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For $4k buy a motorcycle. Hahaaaa
5k .. gas, insurance, registration, can’t even ride on trails or grass hahaha
If all your doing is riding around town and don’t need to go over 30 mph.. get a 4k ebike