So we're dodgy chairman. Hence bosman ruling. Because players out of contract still had their former chairman controlling where they weren't, and they were paid a pittance.
Bless him, he tried very hard but ultimately failed to portray himself as anything other than a parasite feeding on the sport. Nevermind caps on agents fees let the players pay them.
The entire time i just kept imagining what this agents life was like. What his typical work days are like. Seems like one of the best jobs with huge upside for minimal work. Or at the least it gets much easier over time- just dickn around on ur phone all day during the transfer window and besides that… the other months of the year.. you just do… not much really
@@CimbomFanFictionDefinitely alot more to it than just dicking around on your phone and I can imagine alot more work than you think goes into the transfer negotiations and contract extensions all year round but they do get paid ridiculously well for what they do and they are only interested in getting their client the best deal possible just so they get more money.
@@rfurms it would make a huge difference and it would be up to the clubs to band together to ensure that that doesn’t happen. None of them like having to pay agents and probably resent the whole situation so it’s in their interest.
Simon consistently comes across as a scummy ex owner. Agents have to protect and maximise your money. It's their job. Don't be pissed someone does their job well. If it was your money/contract, you would get yourself the most competitive agent you could
They'll never challenge Simon on this topic because all agents truly care about is money. They can make up any excuse or reasoning they want but all they're really interested in is how much money they can make out of the game.. and of bloody course they should pay tax!
@@jasondwumfuo2147 because when money is the sole motivation, there is a temptation to push a player into a move he doesn't want and is not in his best interests just to get a cut of the fee...
The agent got his %, that's what he's in it for. The clubs should hire an agent to take care of all the players at the club, no percentages, no deceit, agent paid by the club, everyone working for the players best interest.
@@CptQuakers At least they wouldn't squeeze the clubs for fees, they wouldn't start rumours to raise value of players thus getting a higher fee, and if a player wants to leave a club and he's been transferlisted, it would be in the club's best interest to offload him, the better the players has performed at the club, the more willing the club would be to get him a good deal. You wouldn't get a Sancho situation, either he would have to buckle down or he would request a transfer, if the latter is the case it would be in the club's interest to offload him.
Did the agent just say that a player is not an employee of the club. What a disgraceful response, after paying millions of pounds in transfer fees to another club and paying wages to the player and he's not an employee. FIFA need to 'force' new rules on agents. Now i can see why sancho hasn't apologised, sancho is being badly advised.
Simon trying to compare European football to the nfl is just delusional. Premier league puts a nfl style hard salary cap in, and the European clubs will just ignore their nice lil cap and premier league will lose value because their teams won’t be as competitive. The NFL can cap salaries because there’s nowhere else to play gridiron football except them, and their owners were incredibly savvy to collective bargain for the cap decades ago instead fighting free agency the way Major League Baseball did.
Mr Jarman is making too much of his importance within a transfer. He should accept that he is doing this job for many reasons, and when those reasons are exhausted, i.e. when the player is contractually under the terms and conditions of his new club, he as an agent, does not have any financial or legal right to be involved anymore. If the purchasing club paid the agent as an employee, then Mr Jarman can dispute what he likes, but after decades of his like not having that club to agent relationship, then he should stop creating reasons that will never exist to be involved post sales of a player.
Wrong, players are closest to their agents and turn to them for advise both in the good and the bad times. The relationship is a unique one and when players go through difficult patches it's normally the agents, family and friends that pull them through, not the clubs.
I am not disputing the emotional attachment that you say a player has with its agent. I am disputing the agents rights to tell a club what to do with their business once the player is offically signed and paid for with the club.
@Eric76 Spot on. As was argued in the show earlier today, the club pays the player and the contract of employment is signed with the club. The agent is effectively nicking a living by making the player more expensive for the club. Its obvious that the reason the agent wants close involvement after a transfer is to constantly be in their ear looking for the next move.
Why do players not pay the agent? Why should a club? Utter nonsense system. Why should a club pay a guy to negotiate for somebody else? Lawyers represent their clients? Who pays them? If the player is your client, why does the club pay?
No he didn't lol and I doubt you could understand the complexities of the discussion to make such a conclusion. When the differences between the American market to the European one was brought up Simon just ignored it and gave no intelligent answer.
Pretty hard to take an agent seriously who says they want to do the best for their clients when the clients they've chosen to serve are the most privileged people on the planet plus have the naivety of youth to exploit. Go waste your breath somewhere else.
This ffp is fairly new, the big six have an advantage over the amount of money they spent before this rule, sad we have to stick to watching only the big six succeed and the rest remain out of them, this guy Richard Masters is hand in glove with the big 6
Bang on, it's totally corrupt. And let's not forget, it still wasn't enough for them was it ? Sly twats were trying to create their own breakaway league too.
@@phoenixrisin5848 shocking how the rest of the english clubs accepted to this rule and did not strike against it, the rest of the teams even the lower division teams must come together to abolish this rule and make this so called big six play on a level playing field, they benifited from sales of their players to the Saudi league, got paid more than the player fees and want to put a cap on Saudi funds.
I'm sure you were cheering it on when they brought it in. People who were paying attention said it was a scam. A wolf in sheep's clothing pretending to be about protecting clubs going bankrupt.
@@phoenixrisin5848the state of refereeing and the fa in general. Can you blame them wanting to break away? Best league and shittest/corrupt/bias/inept refs and governing body.
Given the way the past few weeks have gone and the comments from managers and all related to FFP, all that with what happened to Everton, it looks like the January window will become redundant. Doesn't look there will be that much movement with the top clubs, and it looks like it'll turn into a loan window more than a transfer window.
Agents are used to bring in players and get rid of players. Chairmen are greasing the palms parents to get an advantage while crying they have to use them. Chairmen are hypocrites.
The future of Football is Team Caps like NA. Also once you are contracted as a player you cannot leave until you are a free agent. If not FFP is all rubbish and nothing will change
God, agents are so slimy. Then again, they’re just trying to make a living I can’t fault the guy for that but they’re saturating the market with unreasonably high numbers for avg players and for their cut of the pie.
The simple question for the agent is this. Who employs the agent ? So if it’s the footballer, why does he not pay the agent. The clubs are now expected too
Players should pay the agent fees not the club. Now the clubs pay the signing fee, transfer fee, agent fee, paying the family too. New houses all around etc
We all know most agents objective is making a lot of money , however they’re necessary because teams used to have a hold on players lives Simon won’t talk about that dark side , there are a good agents who care about the career of their clients Bas well
Agents are the worst thing in football giving over rated players and their inflated egos with wages spiraling out of control. I can forsee the bubble going burst because of the greed thats is the catalyst that will ultimately finsh fans football
End of the day, agents profits from when a player move place. They don’t want Whats best for the player, they want the best for themselves and they often have a very limited set of players. ”I want the best for my client” is such a cop out. They will have whatever behaviour which transfers a player from one place to another, cause in its their interest to do so.
The football club is the employer The footballer is an employee. The agent is no different from a Union representative. And you we all know how companies dislike unions ?
I find agents are the leaches that should be kicked out of football. They bring nothing to the game and should be shutdown. Ultimately clubs pay for everything. Ince a clyb sign a player the pkayer works for the club not the agent
What a ridiculous argument . Each party is representing their best business interests . Completely normal in any business. And the fact that one is getting screwed more in taxes so the other should also ,is just forgetting who the real problem is .
Association's could really help by educating players family members give them the knowledge and the power to help the players then we could rid football of these agents
Football clubs should be run in a pyramid system Owner Manager player Agents But even the agent should be employed by the player and only get involved when a club is selling the player
The American model of sport has loads of problems but the way agents work isn't 1 of them. The agents work for the players. They get paid by the players not clubs. They get a percentage of the wages they secure and that's it(6 or 10% I beleive).
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Whenever I see "Football Agent" and "Simon Jordan" in the same sentence, I know sparks will fly. I'm here for it 🤣💥
there was a few eye rolls behind those glasses😄
why do all football agents give off "arms dealer" vibes?
Same kind of people
@@Phuqarf arms dealers arent that bad
Lot's of sniff, sniff action to go with it.
Ghetto...init 🤷♂️
Mobile phone sales man vibes to me 😂
Agents have a huge part in destroying this game.
So we're dodgy chairman. Hence bosman ruling. Because players out of contract still had their former chairman controlling where they weren't, and they were paid a pittance.
A lot but I think they have a place for the lower leagues where clubs are bigger than the players and use them
Not the only ones
@phil. a “pittance” are you having a laff. I would be ecstatic to earn 10% of their “pittance “🤷♂️
This guy was definitely a used car salesman in another life.
Or Tony Parker
Simon was a phone salesman
Micheal Beale ?
Bless him, he tried very hard but ultimately failed to portray himself as anything other than a parasite feeding on the sport. Nevermind caps on agents fees let the players pay them.
The entire time i just kept imagining what this agents life was like. What his typical work days are like. Seems like one of the best jobs with huge upside for minimal work. Or at the least it gets much easier over time- just dickn around on ur phone all day during the transfer window and besides that… the other months of the year.. you just do… not much really
@@CimbomFanFictionDefinitely alot more to it than just dicking around on your phone and I can imagine alot more work than you think goes into the transfer negotiations and contract extensions all year round but they do get paid ridiculously well for what they do and they are only interested in getting their client the best deal possible just so they get more money.
Players paying them wouldn't change a thing. The players would just command more from the club to compensate their own losses
@@rfurms it would make a huge difference and it would be up to the clubs to band together to ensure that that doesn’t happen. None of them like having to pay agents and probably resent the whole situation so it’s in their interest.
Agents always look so scummy, surprise surprsie.
Simon consistently comes across as a scummy ex owner. Agents have to protect and maximise your money. It's their job. Don't be pissed someone does their job well. If it was your money/contract, you would get yourself the most competitive agent you could
@@MrSleeplessnightsHas Simon been sleeping with your husband again or something 🤷♂️🤣
This agent looks like Sean Connery
@@United-h7h Sean Connery with downs 🤷♂️🙄
They'll never challenge Simon on this topic because all agents truly care about is money. They can make up any excuse or reasoning they want but all they're really interested in is how much money they can make out of the game.. and of bloody course they should pay tax!
and you saw that here in the last 30 seconds...
I don’t understand… what’s the issue with money being a motivation for the work that you do?
@@jasondwumfuo2147 because when money is the sole motivation, there is a temptation to push a player into a move he doesn't want and is not in his best interests just to get a cut of the fee...
This agent screams DODGY af
Agent has "coke dealer vibes"......throw in "wanna buy a passport"....and "need some girls?".....vibes.
Poor grubby little agents have to take an exam, please 😂😂😂
So should chairman who cant balance their books
Just as the interview gets interesting it ends Simon get him on your podcast I was enjoying that
Hopefully we’ll learn something too
Agents tax should be called "Leech tax"
🧐
And it should be 95%.
So everyone else gets taxed and they don't they know they're stealing a living. Self employed too. SMH.
Mino riola was one of the worst things to happen to football
His clients would disagree
I'd sack the agent personally - he got Danjuma 2 moves where he hasn't played lol
The agent got his %, that's what he's in it for. The clubs should hire an agent to take care of all the players at the club, no percentages, no deceit, agent paid by the club, everyone working for the players best interest.
@@freethis222 Great point lol the agent got paid
If the manager isnt using them, that's a manager issue
@@freethis222oh yeah an agent working at a club would definitely have the players interests at heart.
@@CptQuakers At least they wouldn't squeeze the clubs for fees, they wouldn't start rumours to raise value of players thus getting a higher fee, and if a player wants to leave a club and he's been transferlisted, it would be in the club's best interest to offload him, the better the players has performed at the club, the more willing the club would be to get him a good deal. You wouldn't get a Sancho situation, either he would have to buckle down or he would request a transfer, if the latter is the case it would be in the club's interest to offload him.
Football agents should have been banned from football years ago
Simon is right - when a player is sold - UR JOB IS DONE - ur gone - ur not required
Simon Jordan is refusing to be challenged 😂😂😂
Wow.Simon allowed him to talk. Thats how it should be. This was a good interview. Salute to both men
Football agents always come across like dodgy second hand car salesmen.😂😂😂
"best version of themselves" 😂
Basically , if they are outperforming their contract, it should be renegotiation
Just like Jesse Lingard and Paul Pogba
That’s how an agent should operate.
Did the agent just say that a player is not an employee of the club. What a disgraceful response, after paying millions of pounds in transfer fees to another club and paying wages to the player and he's not an employee. FIFA need to 'force' new rules on agents. Now i can see why sancho hasn't apologised, sancho is being badly advised.
Jims cheshire cat smile as they go at it towards the end is priceless
Also players should pay for agents fees are not clubs
agents are like NHS managers overpaid not needed but deluded and over confident
Ya can tell this agent is a slime ball
That agent makes my skin crawl
Simon trying to compare European football to the nfl is just delusional. Premier league puts a nfl style hard salary cap in, and the European clubs will just ignore their nice lil cap and premier league will lose value because their teams won’t be as competitive.
The NFL can cap salaries because there’s nowhere else to play gridiron football except them, and their owners were incredibly savvy to collective bargain for the cap decades ago instead fighting free agency the way Major League Baseball did.
Don't think you understood 🙈🤣
Well said
Try listening.
Mr Jarman is making too much of his importance within a transfer. He should accept that he is doing this job for many reasons, and when those reasons are exhausted, i.e. when the player is contractually under the terms and conditions of his new club, he as an agent, does not have any financial or legal right to be involved anymore. If the purchasing club paid the agent as an employee, then Mr Jarman can dispute what he likes, but after decades of his like not having that club to agent relationship, then he should stop creating reasons that will never exist to be involved post sales of a player.
Wrong, players are closest to their agents and turn to them for advise both in the good and the bad times. The relationship is a unique one and when players go through difficult patches it's normally the agents, family and friends that pull them through, not the clubs.
@@MichaelJarman-m9bYou're an agent, right ? 😂
I am not disputing the emotional attachment that you say a player has with its agent. I am disputing the agents rights to tell a club what to do with their business once the player is offically signed and paid for with the club.
Stop the nonsense these owners don’t want to pay players. This is why you have so many legends on TV now.
@Eric76 Spot on. As was argued in the show earlier today, the club pays the player and the contract of employment is signed with the club. The agent is effectively nicking a living by making the player more expensive for the club.
Its obvious that the reason the agent wants close involvement after a transfer is to constantly be in their ear looking for the next move.
Agents are shop stewards
He give's off sleazeball vibes
It's All About The Money Honey
Why do players not pay the agent? Why should a club? Utter nonsense system. Why should a club pay a guy to negotiate for somebody else? Lawyers represent their clients? Who pays them? If the player is your client, why does the club pay?
I own a small tech biz around the insurance space and agents are the worst, totally useless and cash sinks
Not gonna lie out of all the agents I’ve ever seen , this one seems the most genuine and honest . May be wrong but he seems normal - ish
Oh my god, what a CLASH!
Simons a boss, I love this man!
Simon wiped the floor with him...
No he didn't lol and I doubt you could understand the complexities of the discussion to make such a conclusion. When the differences between the American market to the European one was brought up Simon just ignored it and gave no intelligent answer.
@hiddensword9387 Ok, coward 🙄
This guy gave me car sales man vibes ughhh
That was an interesting video - Please do that again - it was a great insight behinde the scenes.
Pretty hard to take an agent seriously who says they want to do the best for their clients when the clients they've chosen to serve are the most privileged people on the planet plus have the naivety of youth to exploit. Go waste your breath somewhere else.
Simon should have Michael on his podcast. Would be a great watch.
How come some players uses lawyers and not agents - do not see the need for agents
Bu bu bu bu but I took an exam to be an agent 😂😂😂😂 dear oh dear oh dear.......
This ffp is fairly new, the big six have an advantage over the amount of money they spent before this rule, sad we have to stick to watching only the big six succeed and the rest remain out of them, this guy Richard Masters is hand in glove with the big 6
Bang on, it's totally corrupt. And let's not forget, it still wasn't enough for them was it ? Sly twats were trying to create their own breakaway league too.
@@phoenixrisin5848 shocking how the rest of the english clubs accepted to this rule and did not strike against it, the rest of the teams even the lower division teams must come together to abolish this rule and make this so called big six play on a level playing field, they benifited from sales of their players to the Saudi league, got paid more than the player fees and want to put a cap on Saudi funds.
I'm sure you were cheering it on when they brought it in. People who were paying attention said it was a scam. A wolf in sheep's clothing pretending to be about protecting clubs going bankrupt.
@@russellward4624
I certainly wasn't mate, saw through it straight away.
@@phoenixrisin5848the state of refereeing and the fa in general. Can you blame them wanting to break away? Best league and shittest/corrupt/bias/inept refs and governing body.
Get them out
Simon used to own a football club you know 🙄
Got a job yet, little Benny?!
@@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 🤷🏿♂️
Given the way the past few weeks have gone and the comments from managers and all related to FFP, all that with what happened to Everton, it looks like the January window will become redundant. Doesn't look there will be that much movement with the top clubs, and it looks like it'll turn into a loan window more than a transfer window.
We have to take an exam 😂
I don’t understand why the clubs pay the agent and not the player. They’re representing the player
Agents are used to bring in players and get rid of players. Chairmen are greasing the palms parents to get an advantage while crying they have to use them. Chairmen are hypocrites.
Agents are real reason why footballers ase so cocky these days.
😂 who is this muppet, "because I took an exam" 😂Do me a favour!
That's a good point, players take more money out of the game than anyone else..
Agents are not needed at all its a con
The future of Football is Team Caps like NA. Also once you are contracted as a player you cannot leave until you are a free agent. If not FFP is all rubbish and nothing will change
How can there legally be conversations with clubs unless Everton give permission to the player ?
Blah blah blah. Your disdain is well placed Simon
God, agents are so slimy. Then again, they’re just trying to make a living I can’t fault the guy for that but they’re saturating the market with unreasonably high numbers for avg players and for their cut of the pie.
The simple question for the agent is this.
Who employs the agent ?
So if it’s the footballer, why does he not pay the agent.
The clubs are now expected too
Players should pay the agent fees not the club. Now the clubs pay the signing fee, transfer fee, agent fee, paying the family too. New houses all around etc
Team Simon all the way .
We all know most agents objective is making a lot of money , however they’re necessary because teams used to have a hold on players lives Simon won’t talk about that dark side , there are a good agents who care about the career of their clients Bas well
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Gobble gobble gobble slurp slurp slurp
Shut up Simon 😅😅
Sir LFC Spectre and Sir Simon Jordan = top LADS Proper Clobber 💯 Facts 👌
@@GamerFrisco Sir GamerFrisco = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
It's okay talking about players pushing for a move- but clubs are just as guilty for pushing players out before the contract finishes
I love Jordan he is the truth!
jim is always cooking peoples 😅
The January window is in the winter and the summer window happens in the sunmer.
fans all think that agents take too much out of the game
The only rational solution is to implement a salary cap. A salary cap would control players and agents.
For me, it's simple...players pay the agent, not the club's!
agents caused players wages to go up now clubs spend 90% to players its crazy
Where would you rather the money go? The billionaire owners? Those are the 2 choices.
nailed him on the tax issue. argument over...
Players should pay the agent parasite
Agents are the worst thing in football giving over rated players and their inflated egos with wages spiraling out of control. I can forsee the bubble going burst because of the greed thats is the catalyst that will ultimately finsh fans football
Agents are divisive and don't always act in the players best interests
End of the day, agents profits from when a player move place. They don’t want Whats best for the player, they want the best for themselves and they often have a very limited set of players. ”I want the best for my client” is such a cop out. They will have whatever behaviour which transfers a player from one place to another, cause in its their interest to do so.
He has a Porche Cayenne outside with a Parking ticket on double yellows with lots of gear in the back! 😂
Just when it's getting interesting Jim shuts it down
😂😂 I done an exam.
Simon really does talk such nonsense
Simon Jordan the most intelligent sport caster right now man is so brilliant wow 😯
FFPs a con job.projects the big clubs and stifles the ambition of so called “smaller “ clubs.
What is FFP? Sorry for my ignorance
Financial Fair Play
The football club is the employer
The footballer is an employee.
The agent is no different from a Union representative.
And you we all know how companies dislike unions ?
Ain't that AJ's mate?
I find agents are the leaches that should be kicked out of football. They bring nothing to the game and should be shutdown. Ultimately clubs pay for everything. Ince a clyb sign a player the pkayer works for the club not the agent
The agents all about the money nothing more nothing Less
Agents are the worst thing about football. End of.
What a ridiculous argument . Each party is representing their best business interests . Completely normal in any business. And the fact that one is getting screwed more in taxes so the other should also ,is just forgetting who the real problem is .
How many agents benefited and the players didn’t I ask myself
its hardwork he said lol? what recounting the millions ??????
Association's could really help by educating players family members give them the knowledge and the power to help the players then we could rid football of these agents
Jordan isn’t an owner!
Not so smug after being schooled by Mr Jordan 👏👏👏
Football clubs should be run in a pyramid system
Owner
Manager
player
Agents
But even the agent should be employed by the player and only get involved when a club is selling the player
The American model of sport has loads of problems but the way agents work isn't 1 of them. The agents work for the players. They get paid by the players not clubs. They get a percentage of the wages they secure and that's it(6 or 10% I beleive).
that thing he did with his mouth he's dodgy as
Football agents are part of the game and the vast majority do their best to represent their clients interests.. SJ understandably has been bitten
Agents are a parasite
I don't know what's worse, the football agent or Jordan's jacket.
Brilliant jacket
Agent:
Footballers take money out of the game
SJ needn’t have stressed