New ancient recipe VS original ancient copper recipe
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Hello Potters. In this episode we will be testing and comparing Potters choice (PC-54)
glaze Ancient copper from the Amaco company for cone 6 oxidation. If you are not in the know, Amaco discontinued this glaze a little over a year ago and has since reformulated it. This of course requires testing to see if the new recipe is just as good as the old recipe. If was a classic, let's see if this one stands the test.
Note: all tests were in the same kiln, we do both brushed and poured glazing for these tests.
Enjoy the review of Amaco's reissued Pc-54 ancient copper glaze.
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Mayco Light Flux + Old Ancient Copper is one of my favorite combos. The flux really adds so much to this glaze.
They should call it New Ancient Copper. They are both pretty, but I prefer the original. The new one seems to have a lot more brown in it, or looks a lot more brown, and it just doesn't have the depth of the original. Really love the piece that stuck to the kiln. Thanks for the video; you are so close to 100k! Hope you get it soon.
I totally agree. The new AC is nice, but it doesn't have that golden glittery effect of the original.
I can definitely see the difference in shading and I prefer the old recipe. I absolutely love the cup that you poured too much glaze on. Its stunning to me. Thanks for the stream!
Actually Brushing on the new ancient copper as we speak! You’re right, the newer version definitely looks darker, but still pretty. Thanks for the review! ❤
Tiff, so good to see you back. I'm a hand builder and you are my most favourite clay teacher. Thank you ❤.
Thanks for the comparison. I'm glad I have a whole bottle of old recipe. But, I am also glad there is something similar that is actually available. It helps greatly to know the new recipe will come out darker.
Thank you so much for this, I was wondering how the new would stack up! The new is definitely darker. but still beautiful. I now pour most of my glazes also.
For me I think that the older one is better. The new one is just a bit too dark. I know that if I make two separate loads, one in new and one in the old, the old would get more attention, and sell better. What a shame, it was one of my favourites. Thanks for doing this, great video. 😊
I agree with what your conclusions. It looks like the new recipe is also sensitive to how thick it is because those areas come out darker. So New ancient copper use porcelain or light clay body and avoid build up where it is thick.
Definitely darker now with the new formula.
Thanks heaps for sharing your tests 🤗
I totally agree!!!!
New version seems closer to Mayco copper float now. For sure it's darker then the original. Thank you for testing. I still have some old ancient copper not sure if I will get the new or just use copper float. Amaco did a good job with trying to recreate the glaze but it isn't the same. This is a great video. Thank you for this information.
That cup with your green....is fire! I'd buy that glaze lol!
I MIGHT try the new recipe once but on different clays. I love AC.
Right on time as a box of the new new just arrived!
Eyyyyyy ;)
Great review.... doing your duty to keep our fingers stained red! Thanks.
Dante try The Ceramic Shop copper flare! It's gorgeous! You can also buy it in dry form!
OG Ancient Copper is definitely lighter/brighter. On the Laogai Green, it reminds me of Black Aventurine.
Bro I've been dying for some ancient copper more than a jealous goblin
I’m sad I missed out on the OG AC. I started after it was discontinued 😢. I have a bottle of the new as well as Copper Float so I’ll give it a go. But I’m sad.
Thank you for doing this. I agree. Old AC is lighter than new AC. Fortunately I have a half bottle of the old. Several years old. It’s gotten thick. How do you recommend that I thin it AND what should the “thickness “ be for pouring it onto a piece? TIA.
Yeah the new recipe is definitely darker but I personally don't hate the new look. :P
Do you think a drop hold would help with crystal formation using the new version?
Old one is better. 😊
Not hating that black into the copper on the tea cup.
Do you have any tests that are same application, same clay, same glaze liners? Because there's a lot of variation going on.
Hi can u please say again how to get the black rim using a combo. I like the black feathered effect it makes as it moves down too. Thanks for this video. Seagirl, Aotearoa New Zealand 🐬
I clicked so fast.. lol I have a box with the new AC on some detail pieces waiting to be fired.. After seeing this, I kind of wish I had just gone with copper float.
Amaco must have paid for glazy's "target & solve" feature
You need to test apples to apples. Either pour both or brush both.
Yes, the new looks darker.
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What is that speckled clay body?
Thank you for this test. Have you tried mayco copper jade? I wonder how it compares
I haven't but let me talk to the company and maybe they'll send over one.
Yeah the old one is definitely lighter (and brighter?)
The difference in color is so really obvious side by side.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I have learned a lot from you over the years.
I’ve struggled with getting ancient copper to shine like yours. Do you do a fast cool down, ie taking the plugs out of the kiln early. I heard this may make the crystals show off their sparkle more. Is this something you’re aware of? And do you do a slow, medium or fast cook time? Also are you in a humid or dry climate? I’m in the mountain desert of Utah. Do you think this makes a difference when firing?
I too have gotten both matte and glossy results. A faster cool will result in a glossier finish and more crystals. Slower cool will give you a more matte result. I would do a medium speed firing with a fast cool. Hope this helps.
@@chrisdotdash5154 thank you. :)
I haven’t seen the ingredients for new v old but I’d bet good money the old had trace strontium in it? And the new doesn’t.
I don't like the new one as much. Nice video.
I think the new formula needs tweeking its a bit too dark.
what if fired at below cone 5+?
I prefer the new one...
The new recipe is, dare I say…not coppery enough. 😔
I think they ran out of lithium...
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