Choosing Between Money and Passion at Work - Jocko Willink

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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    Excerpt from JOCKOPODCAST 151

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  • @thedarkknight646
    @thedarkknight646 4 года назад +30

    I can see what he’s saying. When I first started training kickboxing and mma as a hobby I loved it. I’d go every class but then when I started competing it was less about having fun and learning new things to “this is a job” “someone is training hard to hurt me in front of my family and friends” “I want to win” “I don’t want to lose” I want to put on a good show” “I could possibly die”. Completely changed my mindset on training. And that’s why I have a ton of respect for pro fighters when it all comes down to it (yes even mctapper to an extent) To decide to try and make a living going from training camp to training camp is very taxing physically and on the psyche.

  • @napieracz
    @napieracz 4 года назад +58

    Wow you just hit the nail on the head with the consumerism. I have a job that i don"t really enjoy and i tend to reward myself for doing it :) yeah probably a lot of people do, it's a trap really. You really got me thinking on this

    • @bman6198
      @bman6198 4 года назад +5

      Im guilty of it. Just started a new job that pays more with a lot more room to earn, I found myself foolishly buying things that werent necessary. Its important to stay mentally sound

  • @MrIchbins666
    @MrIchbins666 4 года назад +234

    There is a golden way between money and passion. Look at Echo''s bicep and just be happy .

    • @fioree2532
      @fioree2532 4 года назад +6

      bene ebos I wasn’t the only one who noticed his humungous biceps lol

    • @TheNunakun
      @TheNunakun 4 года назад +4

      I zone into those guns every episode I watch. Goals

    • @calebfederico1318
      @calebfederico1318 4 года назад +1

      Amen!!

    • @calebfederico1318
      @calebfederico1318 4 года назад +1

      Does bother me though I cant see forearm.

    • @id-10-terror7
      @id-10-terror7 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂😂

  • @ironpig701
    @ironpig701 3 года назад

    Not passionate about work but it pays excellent. So I can take my pay and live a great life outside of work. Work hard. Play harder. Echo Charles is spot on with spending. Its why so many are in debt.

  • @willmcgregor7184
    @willmcgregor7184 4 года назад +3

    People don’t get it that your spending determines how you spend your life (how much you work to pay for the gadgets etc) & how little free time you might have.

  • @iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743
    @iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743 4 года назад +250

    I still don't understand Echo's muscles.

    • @TrevMill
      @TrevMill 4 года назад +15

      I just noticed this for the first time and was scrolling to see if I was the only one. I usually listen while I'm driving so I've never seen Captain Striation's arms before.

    • @CaptainMoroniP
      @CaptainMoroniP 4 года назад +42

      It could be said he has striations tattooed on his biceps. But, his left bicep has a law degree and would sue for defamation.

    • @JeffDonnelly
      @JeffDonnelly 4 года назад +2

      Daniel Larkin 😂

    • @스텔-c6o
      @스텔-c6o 4 года назад +6

      looks like the human anatomical model showingmuscles noskin

    • @doorshotel
      @doorshotel 4 года назад

      They're insane.

  • @joeythechin8870
    @joeythechin8870 4 года назад +1

    DO WHAT YOU LOVE AND THE MONEY WILL FOLLOW!!!

  • @eheld27
    @eheld27 7 месяцев назад

    24 year old and just been made redundant from a job I don’t like (scaffolding) I don’t know what else to do because I’m trained in that job and now I’ve got no qualifications to do anything else.
    Why’s life so hard man

  • @sris154
    @sris154 4 года назад +1

    Eye opening video🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @ralphholiman7401
    @ralphholiman7401 4 года назад +1

    Get a job doing something you love, and you will never work a day in your life. But, I understand about killing your hobby. Before I became a federal agent, I loved shooting. After 21 years of having to do regular combat shooting training on a constant basis (and, as echo pointed out, having to do it all day on days I didn’t feel like doing it) ., I really didn’t feel like going out and shooting for fun, anymore. Now, ten years retired, I’m finally getting back into recreational shooting.

  • @chefe2152
    @chefe2152 Год назад

    I pursued my passion for 24 years cooking,I loved but made not so great salary,until I become Executive Chef, started to make good money,but really can't stand my job now,I do it because it pays well now,so my passion became burned.
    I'm starting new path course to change my career soon.

  • @robertsutton3001
    @robertsutton3001 4 года назад +6

    Hey jocko could we handle China? Looks like we might need to have to one day.

  • @dennislogan6781
    @dennislogan6781 4 года назад

    Another thing about work is that it is great for getting rid of bad habits. Think you eat too much pizza, work at a pizza place and within a year you will be sick of the sight of pizza.

  • @CleenisNOThere
    @CleenisNOThere 3 года назад

    I choose money

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      @AnnaFed015 3 года назад

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  • @ronsouther
    @ronsouther 4 года назад +1

    A business is the hobby + jobs that you don’t enjoy, like bookkeeping, regulatory compliance, crappy customers, mastering advertising, etc... The hobby part is great, the rest is the drain.

  • @edgehodl4832
    @edgehodl4832 4 года назад +1

    i went for the money and got engineering degree (never cared about engineering before), will hit 1 mil networth by 40, im 35 now. my personal advice to young people, dont care about passion, always follow the cash.

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад +1

      tell us another joke . plus I could take ur money . mommy couldn’t stop me.

  • @wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg
    @wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg 4 года назад +1

    Man, I wish you were around talking about this sort of stuff 10 years ago.
    At that time, who was around? Less Brown. Tony Robbins. "Follow your heart." "Chase your passion."
    I didn't have good role models. Those were the only guys who I could look for regarding changing my life for the better.
    If I ever met those guys alone, I'll make sure to break their noses and give them a permanent speech impairment. How many lives have they screwed up besides mine?

    • @OtakuOlly999
      @OtakuOlly999 2 года назад

      It worked for them. Can’t blame anyone not even yourself on that one

  • @richardcastro8876
    @richardcastro8876 4 года назад

    What if you have neither

  • @alexanderbutler2989
    @alexanderbutler2989 4 года назад +1

    dont ask jock a "is this better than that" question.
    hes just going to say both. both is good.

  • @dm20422
    @dm20422 4 года назад

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @obadiahscave
    @obadiahscave 4 года назад +2

    Money always corrupts the heart and soul..
    Maybe not immediately, but over some time the heart and soul gets corrupted...
    It's just human nature...

  • @seychellesman1delta
    @seychellesman1delta 4 года назад

    Do you in one move

  • @zeuslamak3651
    @zeuslamak3651 4 года назад

    How are Echo Charles arms so big? wtf??

  • @klauecortius6460
    @klauecortius6460 4 года назад

    Anyone think this guy looks like Mr Sark? 😂

  • @seychellesman1delta
    @seychellesman1delta 4 года назад

    But can't shoot straight

  • @CaseyBurnsInvesting
    @CaseyBurnsInvesting 4 года назад +322

    If you must, work at a mindless job and relentlessly pursue your passions outside that job until it makes you money.

    • @CaseyBurnsInvesting
      @CaseyBurnsInvesting 4 года назад +6

      Dan G
      Exactly, I’ve been able to put countless hours into business building because I’m not on call when I get off work. In addition, I can literally be in a near sleep state and still do my repetitive job. This allows me to brainstorm for my business and read audiobooks on the job.

    • @kaiyan1573
      @kaiyan1573 4 года назад +6

      @@CaseyBurnsInvesting 100 percent, I'm a pilot hoping to transition to the film industry. Hope things go well!

    • @CaseyBurnsInvesting
      @CaseyBurnsInvesting 4 года назад +1

      kai yan
      Keep grinding my man, soon you’ll be there and wonder why you ever doubted.

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      I threw them a curve ball bub! hopefully it saves someone’s life . and I don’t even want a penny for it.

    • @shannonisokay7276
      @shannonisokay7276 3 года назад +1

      Definitely agree with the mindless part when the job is mentally draining it’s the worst

  • @TheCoffeeNut711
    @TheCoffeeNut711 4 года назад +118

    If you don't have money you can't do what you are passionate about.
    My passion is writing, my job is an electrician. With enough smart investments I can retire and write full time and hopefully make it as a writer

    • @kchuaw4500
      @kchuaw4500 2 года назад +3

      Some paper and a pen will not cost you too much money ;)

    • @hewhohasnoname4842
      @hewhohasnoname4842 Год назад +2

      @@kchuaw4500 The time will

    • @xlxl1762
      @xlxl1762 Год назад +2

      @@kchuaw4500 And who’s gonna pay his bills?

    • @fernandoabascal6295
      @fernandoabascal6295 Год назад +1

      OR you can become a copywritter and do a ton of money. Now.

    • @fernandoabascal6295
      @fernandoabascal6295 Год назад +1

      I just gave you the key my friend.

  • @shannonisokay7276
    @shannonisokay7276 3 года назад +38

    I make about $1500 less a month now that I’ve switched to a career that makes me feel whole but I no longer drive home at night and have the urge to drive into a tree. I switched to this career and for the first time in my life I’ve also learned to set boundaries and not always be a yes man. All that changed was the career and yes I’m not as financially stable but when I had money. I didn’t even have time or energy to spend it anyway 🤷‍♀️

    • @shannonisokay7276
      @shannonisokay7276 3 года назад +1

      Also it’s not my only hobby or passion so I still have 2 inexpensive fulfilling hobbies. Maybe that helped ?

    • @sterlthepearl1000
      @sterlthepearl1000 Год назад +1

      What's your career now @shannon is okay?

    • @fernandoabascal6295
      @fernandoabascal6295 Год назад +1

      So whats the conclusion???

  • @charleshurstreinvention3959
    @charleshurstreinvention3959 2 года назад +36

    This is key--assessment of what is half of your waking life. This is my weekly topic for my own subscribers. Career. One thing that can really bring a person into depression is 40 hours a week of hating their job. The job is literally almost half of the waking life. The problem many people have is that they have a craving for security. The person will tolerate being unhappy if that is their normality. People would rather have secure bitterness than the fear of stepping off the cliff. The fact is that you can change your career anytime. At 40 or 50. I once knew a car salesman of 30 years who did really well but started to hate his job--so became a nurse at 57. He is now a travel contractor. His friends told him he would be 57 by the time he got licensed as an RN. He told them he would be 57 anyway. So he will now spend the next ten years doing something he likes instead of something he hates. But you have to decide if it is life on the sea you hate or just that ship you're traveling on. In other words--do you hate your trade or just the company you're at? But whatever you aren't happy with you must change and continue to advance yourself. Hope this helps someone---Charles.

  • @greyman6353
    @greyman6353 4 года назад +158

    Jocko speaks like a warrior sage who knows secrets and gives it to you without the sugar coating.

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      I just described exactly who Putin is ...on another thread. no sugar coating. yup Murica has it coming. but why should we suffer because of greedy and stupid people? that’s my problem. people came at me like a herd of sheep on my channel. all 157 pounds of me. this country needs a clean up or it won’t last. long term happiness vs short term satisfaction.

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      see what happens when u make people mad ? bad things can happen. I’m not in any mood to hear anything. I’m a warrior. never make someone like me mad .

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      I doxed one guy and his entire family for talkin to much and taking a RUclips “ beef” way to far. he never showed up to meet me in person to face the music but kept running his mouth with vids about me and talking about my family ..so I doxed his mom.and everyone in his family acted I was done arguing because they did the harassment crap and acted like I disappeared from RUclips (I’m elusive anyways) ..so I signed in as his dead brother who his subs weren’t even aware of and he didn’t know who i was ( my roommates friends and bro were messing with him too this youtuber idiot ) . he had no idea the dirt we had on him and we were posting their addresses everywhere even his phone number and license plate ...now he doesn’t troll people or sic his trolls on anyone like he did a few years back. I wouldn’t care if some crazy person kills the rest of his family. that’s how mean I get. he wouldn’t have gotten away with the first thing he said online in person . and they were talking for two years. trying to spread propaganda that’s bs well he asked for it . who was triggered? over my roommate calling him a “ bitch” in his comment section because he is one. 😂😜 I’m just the guy that beat them at their own game while working and dealing with the death of my best friend and first cuz..she died on NEW Year’s Day ...in hospice of leukemia and I was there trying to keep my uncle calm . I wanted to kill that guy slowly but there’s law. oh well still left him broken. what u think about dat bub?

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      acting tough from 1200 miles away ...they were very annoying. over one comment not kissing up to him from my roommate ??? wow . talking smack for two years with thousands of trolls?! psssft!! 😂cool story bro? 😂😜 who wouldn’t at least wanna knock his grill out of his head?! ya know! u don’t get gangster like that bub? my family does.

    • @kevinz2738
      @kevinz2738 4 года назад +4

      @@crazymacedonianboi
      Holly shit there really are some interestingly weird people on the internet...

  • @saved03
    @saved03 4 года назад +78

    Seems like you guys should have had Mike Rowe in the studio to answer that question. His advice is to not follow your passion. Follow opportunities and find you passion within those opportunities. His did a PragerU video on this issue.

    • @dragon7590
      @dragon7590 4 года назад +6

      I was just gonna quote Mike. I ended up doing just that in following my opportunities and being so grateful every day for those.

  • @cmx8450
    @cmx8450 4 года назад +212

    Man Im 17 and Ive been thinking about this alot this came at the Perfect time

    • @fioree2532
      @fioree2532 4 года назад +3

      Emre Sherif good luck bud, I’m 21 and I’ve finally found what I’m good at that makes money, I don’t know what it means but I’m sure you’ll find what you’re happy with that will make you something💪

    • @imthefunnyguy5467
      @imthefunnyguy5467 4 года назад +8

      I'm 20 and still figuring it out myself my advice is to try your hand at a bunch of different stuff. See if you're good at math, communication, politics, sports, music, writing, business, etc.

    • @fioree2532
      @fioree2532 4 года назад

      Dan G totally agree

    • @skyrim654
      @skyrim654 4 года назад +18

      I'm 27 and still searching. All I can tell you, is dont give up. You'll have curve balls, and shitty years. But just keep going. I'm sure one day we'll find the way.

    • @revdevstudios
      @revdevstudios 4 года назад +3

      @@CoopMauKona Hey man, if this was your experience so be it, but this is not the case for everyone. I agree you should be realistic about things, but you don't want regret. If you truly think you want to be a music teacher I think you should try it out early on and learn for yourself.

  • @barnesrm76
    @barnesrm76 4 года назад +18

    Work to live, dont live to work. Been there done that and its not worth it. In my 44 years on this earth more money has never made me happier, ever. I think its important to keep an open mind and be honest with yourself about what you are and arent willing to accept in your life. Opportunities abound but are often missed by folks whos thinking has become too narrow. I made it a point to try out all the different occupations I thought I might be interested in to see what each was all about. This allowed me to expand my skill set while deciding if that career path was right for me. We do kids a great disservice with that whole 'what do you want to be when you grow up?' nonsense. Its fine to remain focused once your eye is on the prize, but life doesnt care about your goals so you need to be able to adapt, which a lot of young kids are unable or unwilling to do because it doesnt fit with their 5 year plan. And always remember that life is too important to be taken seriously. My 2 cents
    Semper Gumby

  • @AaronALopez-ov7sn
    @AaronALopez-ov7sn 4 года назад +59

    Be Determined no matter what. I will never let anyone tell me different. I love my dirty gritty job because it makes us stronger mentally. Which is so important to me. I love pain, grit, dirt, ect.

    • @EducationEvolved-E2
      @EducationEvolved-E2 4 года назад +3

      I understand this. I've had a relatively easy life, making me less mentally resilient. Though I may be formidable with concepts, I'm lacking elsewhere.

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      I didn’t notice Nick 😂😜when people post things it gives me a picture of who they r . Putin did it ...he studied our reaction to 9/11. it probably wasn’t that hard to influence this election especially with Hilary running against the ugly puppet . some broke Macedonian kids made six figures over that summer just to mess with u gullible things. I love the internet omg

    • @FreekFreeksma
      @FreekFreeksma 2 года назад

      @@crazymacedonianboi damn what did you smoke

  • @af3007
    @af3007 4 года назад +60

    echo got tiger stripes on his arms

  • @bryanramirez1280
    @bryanramirez1280 3 года назад +15

    Summary:
    The reason we enjoy our hobbies is partially because we get to do it for fun, not all the time or money. Look at your life situation, and see if you can have both a life of passion and money, this doesn't mean to have money and passion from work, but instead maybe have the money come from your job and your passion outside your job. As your financial situation improves, you can dedicate less and less time to work for money and more time towards a mission or passion that you value. The main key to make this work out, is to avoid becoming a slave to to money by instead mastering it.

    • @emirhasan46
      @emirhasan46 2 года назад

      What do you mean by “becoming a slave to the money” and “mastering it” ? I didn’t quite understand

    • @24kLifestyle
      @24kLifestyle 8 месяцев назад

      yes please explain the mastering money part?

  • @maximusbrandon9971
    @maximusbrandon9971 4 года назад +55

    4:45 he basically explains 99% of overseas contractors. IT IS SO SAD. We make hundreds of thousands in just a couple of years and these men don't even have houses.

    • @dexm2010
      @dexm2010 4 года назад +2

      @ Maximus Brandon Yup....It sure is fun while it lasts though.

    • @maximusbrandon9971
      @maximusbrandon9971 4 года назад +5

      @@dexm2010 Enough money to have every hooker in Dubai lol

    • @ZangerAI
      @ZangerAI 4 года назад +5

      Peer pressure has a lot to do with that too, I suppose

    • @davidh1927
      @davidh1927 4 года назад +2

      Yup...been there and know so many who have done the same....or spend it on building a Thai girl a home and lose it to her ..

    • @tti4919
      @tti4919 4 года назад +2

      Any job openings

  • @hitandruncommentor
    @hitandruncommentor 4 года назад +12

    Why choose? Do both. I am an amateur writer, I’ve been writing for twenty years and love it, but there is no money in it unless you can pay for editing and cover art. So I’m working a boring job that pays well, I have paid off my school loans, my car loans, and am track to retire in 5 years. And I still have the time to write and will have the money to succeed as a writer. Be practical, but don’t give up your dreams.

  • @TheB1nary
    @TheB1nary Год назад +7

    I've worked in IT for 25 years. Passionate about it - but I am also passionate about things outside of IT. Find something you are passionate about -- when work gets you down and introduces stress, your passion for what you are doing will carry you through. The problem comes when people look at the pay a career offers without being passionate about the thing for its own sake. That's a road to disaster.

  • @contactrfp
    @contactrfp 4 года назад +18

    There is a continuum between a job you are passionate about and a job you absolutely hate. You may not find a high paying job that you love but you don’t have to settle for something you really hate either. If you can find something that you like reasonably well, with good pay and benefits, a decent boss, hours that fit your lifestyle, etc; you should be in good shape.

  • @nellynuz42069
    @nellynuz42069 3 года назад +4

    I play music for people. I am passionate about it. I wouldn't change it for anything. I love what I do. I am good at it.I still need money... I need to make a living.

  • @piotr.kaczmarski
    @piotr.kaczmarski 2 года назад +2

    Jocko thinks that if he works 12 hours a day then everybody could.
    Well, Jocko, not everybody's like you, buddy;)
    One example does not make a rule.

  • @hwhitley93
    @hwhitley93 4 года назад +3

    Became a truck driver at 21 I absolutely hate it but the money supports my family and I work 70+ hour weeks I hate it

  • @bobjackson7516
    @bobjackson7516 4 года назад +9

    Late 80s: I made my hobby, my passion, my career.
    Today: I feel like I've sold my soul. I've learned that people suck, and hate my job.

    • @theamericanforester
      @theamericanforester 2 года назад

      How do you mean? 40 years later?

    • @bobjackson7516
      @bobjackson7516 2 года назад

      @@theamericanforester Well, it's pretty self-explanatory. Which part wasn't i clear on?
      I've since got a new job. MUCH happier now, but still prefer to not be around people.

  • @igorkizejev4967
    @igorkizejev4967 2 года назад +5

    I am trying to be a DJ and Producer, still have a day job at the same time- but believe me, there is a massive difference between people that do it as a hobby, and the difference between those doing it as a career. The level of actual work both in the studio and outside the studio- social media, website, youtube, soundcloud, possibly merch.. etc, not the same as making music and DJing for fun in the bedroom.

  • @sethballance
    @sethballance 4 года назад +34

    I love hearing jocko talk about finance. I'd listen to that podcast too

  • @jotarokujo9242
    @jotarokujo9242 3 года назад +5

    follow your passion to the extent to which you can afford it

  • @EmilioYepez
    @EmilioYepez 4 года назад +6

    I have found that money can corrupt if what you are doing isn’t meaningful. If what you do isn’t meaningful to you and is simply transactional, it will make you very unhappy and sap the very life out of whatever you are doing. Maybe the answer to this question is to first find purpose, then find meaningful work, work hard and stay disciplined; that could offer a healthy balance and lead to a very fulfilling life.

    • @edgehodl4832
      @edgehodl4832 4 года назад

      bad advice cause you making too complicated, young person is easily confused. play safe, get stem degree, get good safe job like engineering, make alot of money, retire by age 40, easy, done. none of that philosophical mambo jambo

    • @falconslays2740
      @falconslays2740 4 года назад

      Edge HODL Lol your advice is bad. Not everyone is satisfied or happy working a job they don't like or care about for 40 years, just because it's "safe".

    • @Hej344
      @Hej344 Год назад

      @@edgehodl4832 then I would like to ask you if you think your advice is good. If your retirement money is finished, then how are you going to survive?

  • @schiltz371
    @schiltz371 4 года назад +2

    What a couple of negative Nancy’s!
    We all have to work no matter what, so why not make a hobby into a job? Can it get repetitive, sure like anything else can. It’s all about your attitude and drive. You can choose to be happy or miserable in your situation. If you loose your passion, any job WILL suck. Working for yourself has more positives than negatives by a country mile in my experience. A hobby turned into a full time job is a added bonus to me. If this was a bad idea, we wouldn’t have successful car builders, artist, architects, you name it. The only caveat is is you will have to work for it, but what’s new?

  • @from1978
    @from1978 4 года назад +2

    Passion for sure. I think when you're sitting around shitting your pants in the later years, you'd be more happy knowing you did what you love.

  • @javiergardeazabal4307
    @javiergardeazabal4307 4 года назад +14

    I’ve been waiting to hear something like this. Thank you.

  • @littleripper312
    @littleripper312 4 года назад +6

    My hobby became my career and I don't regret it but what I learnt is that work is work. I do more of it and it's harder but it's also far more satisfying being self employed.

  • @lmv2.787
    @lmv2.787 4 года назад +7

    This is so true. One of my good friends loves motorcycles but became a car mechanic. He told me he became a car mechanic because he didn't want to lose is love of motorcycles by working on them all day.

  • @hamothemagnif8529
    @hamothemagnif8529 4 года назад +6

    If you scrape by doing something that you love, what do you do when you’re older and want a home and family? I couldn’t answer that question so I chose mindless job with a future while doing passion projects during free time.

  • @silascochran9705
    @silascochran9705 4 года назад +10

    This was a good one not that all of your podcasts aren't but I love to cook I can make phenomenal food I do not want to make it my living because I cannot will not cook good food under pressure but when I take my time I'm a master it is a hobby it is how I eat🏝🐊🦅🇺🇸👍

  • @josephabraham4058
    @josephabraham4058 4 года назад +3

    What is your advice to someone who is just dead on the inside. I'm not passionate about much of anything - including life.

    • @marka9261
      @marka9261 4 года назад +3

      get rid of depression

    • @modernart7392
      @modernart7392 4 года назад +3

      Start going to church and pray.

  • @peacecrafttrue
    @peacecrafttrue 4 года назад +8

    I hate gaming now, so that's a good thing, but it happened with my bonsai and music too. I don't even want to sit down and draw frames for my comic anymore. I miss having a few hobbies I found fun, and the $ can't compensate for that. I will not let that happen with smithing. This is an underrated lesson. Thank you.

  • @e.e.8589
    @e.e.8589 4 года назад +5

    Dont (just) go where the money is. Follow your heart and be willing to suffer. Often times there is a different approach to your passion. For example if you like fighting, you dont have to be a professional MMA fighter, maybe its better for you to join the army or work in law enforcement.

  • @foodbizztalk919
    @foodbizztalk919 4 года назад +7

    Very insightful, best to do the things you love whilst at the same time doing what you can to earn a living, or you can discipline yourself enough to do what you don't like for a period of time so you eventually can do what you do live

  • @DavidM-lj5yv
    @DavidM-lj5yv 4 года назад +5

    I worked for a large company for 20 years. Four years ago I went off on my own. I'm 46yo now, and although I'm making 2/3 of what I made at my large company 8 years ago at age 38, it was the BEST move I ever made becoming my own boss. Quality of life has improved 10x. I really love what I do now-- I never loved what I did before. And I will continue to grow as the years go on. As always, great presentation.

  • @ScattMatt3000
    @ScattMatt3000 9 месяцев назад +1

    There could be a few potential concerns with this scenario. First, it's important for an instructor to maintain a positive and inclusive attitude towards students of all levels, including beginners. Singling out white belts or expressing a reluctance to teach them may create an atmosphere of exclusion or discourage new students from joining.
    Secondly, if the instructor has been running their own practice for six years, it's expected that they have developed a level of expertise. Part of being an instructor is guiding students at various skill levels, including teaching fundamental techniques like armlocks. Refusing to teach white belts might limit the instructor's ability to share their knowledge and contribute to the growth of their students.
    Lastly, if the instructor no longer wants to teach certain techniques or work with specific student levels, it may be worth considering whether they need to reevaluate their role as an instructor or seek additional training opportunities to further develop their skills and instructional methods.

  • @spookycrossaint5519
    @spookycrossaint5519 4 года назад +5

    Here's one thing that helped me choosing jobs and what I wanna do when I become an adult.
    You are in the middle of an intersections between two paths.On your left is a job that pays well but takes years to get (for example for me it's being a general surgeon) ,on the right is something you've always dreamed of or a job that you've admired and showed a whole lot of intrest but dosent pay as well (firefighter) you have two paths to choose. Now you have all the money in the world right now and you have to choose, what is your passion which one do you want to do more and if your thought leans to the left or right then that's what you choose and that's the right choice. You do what you want without the thought of money , "a man only needs so much money the rest is for showing off". Do what you love and not what you have to for money. Now this is only for kids or teen maybe for adults who have struggle choosing what they want to do in life. Money is temporarily and won't buy a second of time.

  • @AZTigerMMA
    @AZTigerMMA 4 года назад +2

    Money!!!!!! I’ve done the inverse ! Do not make my mistake !!!! Get a high paying job all work is work!!!!! Make enough money that you CAN make the jump if you want !!!!!!

  • @jamesbradford1153
    @jamesbradford1153 4 года назад +4

    Here's a third way of looking at it: that job that pays more and sets you up in the future will also require more time and energy, and may leave you drained to the point that you won't even have anything left to pour into your passion. The more you push your passion to the side the more likely it will stay that way. Something you bullshit around with a few hours a month. You will most definitely regret it, and won't be happy in either the short or the long term, in my opinion.
    BUT, if you can be methodical and realistic with how much time and energy you can allocate throughout the day to each task, you might be able to make it work. I would just be cautious as to over-reaching and trying to bulldoze your way through it all because you know what's harder than trying to build one career path for yourself? Trying to build two. Or trying to build three. Etc... You can only thin yourself out so far. As a rule of thumb, you should expect to have to put 40 hours into your passion ON TOP of the 40 hours you are already putting into your job. That's about 80 hours a week, not including all of your other priorities (commute, cleaning, cooking, maybe you have kids to take care of, etc etc). Even the highest-performing human beings in the world cap out at around 100 hours of pure work per week (not counting special short-term situations like crunch time in the coding/gaming industry, or navy seal bootcamp, etc). For average human beings, regular every-day people, I would venture to say that 80-90 hours a week of pure work is probably about their max limit. The most important thing, imo, is calculating every single hour of the week you can afford to spend on each task, and building a plan from there. We all only get 24 hours a day, 168 hours a week. Just my two cents.

  • @ExasBits
    @ExasBits 4 года назад +4

    I never understood the dopamine response to consumerism until now.

    • @ExasBits
      @ExasBits 4 года назад +1

      crazymacedonianboi 1903 - Says the guy that uses “ur” instead of you’re, doesn’t capitalize at the start of the sentence, can’t be bothered to use punctuation either and mocks someone for learning something new. Yes, I’m being petty to but you seem bored. I’m bored at the moment to. I figured I could indulge you with a response to pass the time. I probably shouldnt but I would feel bad leaving you hanging.
      I left some grammar and spelling errors in my message for you to pick apart if you need a writing prompt to reply. Stay safe. I am being sincere about that.

    • @ExasBits
      @ExasBits 4 года назад +1

      crazymacedonianboi 1903 your a fascinating human

    • @crazymacedonianboi
      @crazymacedonianboi 4 года назад

      that’s what they say 😂😜 it’s all good dude. my bad for being a dick . I was in a bad mood . cyber fist bump? 👊

  • @AudraT
    @AudraT Год назад +1

    Anything thing you can have "fun" spending money on is things that are wise investments and can give some kind of return. Property/larger property is good. Property is a great investment but you can do things on that property that you love, such as put a woodworking shop up, raise chickens, grow a garden. Not only are they things you enjoy but you could turn all that into income, especially if times get hard. Organic eggs at the store are between $6 - $9 per dozen. Also, good tools are a good investment. You might buy it because you enjoy building on the side but if times get rough those high quality tools can open up a lot of potential to build something people want/need or be a handyman or something.

  • @hueyfreeman7865
    @hueyfreeman7865 4 года назад +4

    buying clothing, hurts like a mofo
    buying video games, is fun and awesome

  • @benrosauer297
    @benrosauer297 4 года назад +5

    Thank you Jocko, this video was very helpful for a situation in my life

  • @aptknifethrowerguy8342
    @aptknifethrowerguy8342 4 года назад +2

    bowling was a great hobby then i got very good at it and tried it as a living in the pba....took 2 years hated my hobby...havent picked up a ball in 20 years

  • @blackbeard0074
    @blackbeard0074 4 года назад +3

    Well, if ur passion is expensive then you need to have alot of money lol

  • @mriegger
    @mriegger 4 года назад +3

    6:17 Jocko is a great conversationalist: I'll take your basket weaving example and run with it.

  • @Thanatos_1313
    @Thanatos_1313 4 года назад +4

    I also think people forget how much work goes into making a passion into a living. I am a writer, every day I get up and write and edit before and after work. A lot of times I have to say no to going out with friends because I have to work on my 'passion' but to me writing is a craft, not so much a passion. The passion is storytelling, the work is the writing part, and people have this mindset of passion being all about enjoyment and happiness. Sure, sometimes, I am happy at my craft mostly when I see one of my books done, but sitting down hours after hours to work, not always the best part of my day.

    • @Luke-ih1oc
      @Luke-ih1oc 4 года назад +2

      Sure; no one said that your hobby has to be 100% enjoyable or that you can't attempt to monetize it to some degree. As long as you have balance I think that's what's important.

    • @julianbartley7766
      @julianbartley7766 3 дня назад +2

      Yup absolutely still tho fo realz otherwise your life will go completely boring tho but it costs tho to be that way tho of what I've actually learned from kobe bryant's mamba mentality tho still so yeah and of not living a normal life with the sacrifices that come along wit it but the thing is your juss doing what you really want to do with your life still tho so yeah that's it.❤😊

  • @johnprentice1474
    @johnprentice1474 4 года назад +2

    I play guitar because I love it. I work my job because my kids need a home and food. Put things in their proper place.

  • @ronmixiejosalva2323
    @ronmixiejosalva2323 3 года назад +1

    I'm thinking about going back on board because I'm a merchant sailor for the money. But I don't enjoy the job. It's just that I earn a lot more.
    I really dream of becoming a fire fighter, but the salary is not that big compared to what I earn if I work on board. I'm 28 now and I only have 2 more years for me to decide.

  • @ricfair7549
    @ricfair7549 4 года назад +3

    Cal Newport's book, "So Good They Can't Ignore You" explores a similar question by interviewing people across many different careers. Funnily enough, the conclusion the book comes to can almost be boiled down to, "Discipline = Freedom"

  • @magcitrate
    @magcitrate Год назад +1

    Make money 1st, escape the matrix, then do what u want.

  • @Chief_Fou
    @Chief_Fou 4 года назад +1

    I hate when ppl just wait their turn to speak but then reply with complete useless bs

  • @ThoughtsEqualLife
    @ThoughtsEqualLife Год назад +1

    The most miserable people I know in life have the most $

  • @ossacatiastril4834
    @ossacatiastril4834 4 года назад +2

    Echo charles is the guy who picks basketweaving in DnD XD

  • @michael567jober
    @michael567jober 3 года назад

    I just want to make enough money to pay my bills, not break my back, not work long crazy hours and have plenty of time to enjoy my earnings. I work so much that I don’t even have time to spend it. I can’t even hit the gym and or play my ps4 cause I work so much

  • @justinfreeman4614
    @justinfreeman4614 4 года назад +3

    I like it when Echo talks at least as much as Jocko. That doesn't happen every episode.

  • @littleripper312
    @littleripper312 4 года назад +1

    I think where people get confused here is they think less money is the same thing as not enough money. If you can make enough money to live off of at your passion you should be doing that and over time trying to make as much as you can. If you can't make enough money to live off of or at least in the near future then it's not really a career and more of a hobby.

  • @ToffeeAppleBandLTD
    @ToffeeAppleBandLTD 4 года назад +1

    Military is a prime example. You do it out of passion it does not pay well. Trust me I know.

  • @RandyKish
    @RandyKish 4 года назад +2

    @Jokko Willink - Dude, I am in the third decade of my career and you are spot on. Its really hard to make your job your hobby. I was an NCAA Tennis player and grew to hate it to the point I hung up the racket. But, I loved my jobs (at times), and was able to capitalize on it. Luckily, I also met people in my career who have experience like those who trained you. But we all burn out at times and have delusions. I've draged myself to the paycheck for the junk job (no car/house), but a daughter's education to build for... either way, you speak truth. You are in SD, a SEAL, connected to my brother and friends. How can I say thank you in person? Just so WIZ knows the Kevin Bacon 6 degrees is really 2?

  • @BradPitbull
    @BradPitbull 4 года назад +6

    Will you be our next president after the Corona civil war???
    And will you ban SKINNY KNEES???

  • @Relbl
    @Relbl 4 года назад +1

    Your first expense every month (or payday) should be to put 10% of your gross into savings

  • @Brian-hg3gt
    @Brian-hg3gt 4 года назад +12

    Needed this, Trynna figure out what I’mma do with my life 😂

  • @saltyp123
    @saltyp123 4 года назад +1

    Medical theory on Echo's muscles......I personally have larger biceps/arms than normal (not bragging)....They have always been developed and bigger than the other person I work out with and doing the same work outs. I had to get elbow surgery and they had to do an arm block...when they ultrasound my armpit they found I had 2 arteries pumping blood into my arm---they checked the other side because it's sort of rare but also not un-common and same story. So my theory is that Echo has 4 arteries in each arm pumping blood into those things.

  • @liamcollins9563
    @liamcollins9563 4 года назад +2

    100% with the "click to create" phenomenon. I think Jocko is dead on with that.

  • @AtlantiXYL
    @AtlantiXYL 4 года назад +1

    Another thing is to blow money on stupid things to impress people you dont even like. Dont do that

  • @enochbrown8178
    @enochbrown8178 4 года назад +1

    Hey, are Echo's arms are crazy huge or what?! Jocko's right on point, as usual. You may be passionate about something, but how would you like doing it all day long or can you even do it all day long? And, can you pay the bills, put a down payment on a house, or get health insurance. If you can't see these things happening, then it's time for a big-time reality check. I like to say it like this: you may want to be a priest because you really have a heart to help people - and kudos to you, by the way - but the downside is that it's not an easy life. It's a life of poverty and total sacrifice and you don't get a lot of breaks from human misery. Also, there is the ever present fact of life that we all need sex as adults. How do you solve THAT conundrum? My point: you truly have to count the cost no matter what you decide to do in life even if you happen to be "passionate" about it.

  • @jupiterjunk
    @jupiterjunk 4 года назад +1

    @Jocko Podcast
    .
    Mornin' boyz'!
    Jocko and Charles; what advice you'd give someone with a family to support, but their job appears to be wrecking their life? Also, when do you two know it's time to change jobs?
    .
    One of my co-workers, and best friends in the world, is struggling with stress as work. He was promoted into a position that he was reluctant to take, but the money is VERY good.
    Over the past two years, I've watched work stress push him to his breaking point. He's lost most of his hair and has put on plenty of stress pounds. We talk daily, at length, and he now finds himself, pushing 50 and in a job that he doesn;t feel he can replace.
    What can I do to help my best friend?
    .
    Everyone wakes up, once in a while, and says "God... I don't want to go to work today."
    If I find myself saying that more than once, every two weeks, I do a re-evaluation of my situation. I look to see if there is anything that I can change at my work place, or life, to make the job better.
    Afterwards, if I find myself saying it more than once a week,I pull-up stakes and find another job. I even go so far as to give my 2-weeks without even having another job to go to. I find this self-induced state of emergency helps me focus better (ADHD much?) and I've always landed on my feet.
    How do you handle this in your lives?
    .
    Thank you both, for all of the hard work you and your team does to put these podcasts together.
    v/r
    Kev

  • @nathankahrsprofessional
    @nathankahrsprofessional 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for reassuring me I made the best decision from me and my upcoming family.

  • @Toastymontage
    @Toastymontage 3 года назад +1

    Good conversation.
    A point I feel like I should add to Echos closing idea is I’m someone who likes to be self sufficient and in doing so I realize what goes into the production of a lot of items. What frustrates me about spending money is corporation’s putting a ridiculous price on cheap items like car parts for example that only cost a pocket full of change to make, but cost an arm and a leg for the average consumer to buy.... lol capitalism I wouldn’t trade it though!

  • @padmanabh7031
    @padmanabh7031 4 года назад +1

    Man....echo's body does not go with his voice...

  • @ronsouther
    @ronsouther 4 года назад +1

    Excellent point...clicking and buying simulates creating something from nothing. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @adamstanley2752
    @adamstanley2752 Год назад

    The other issue with trying to monetize your passion is that sometimes we aren’t necessarily good at what we are passionate about. Just bc we love to do something doesn’t mean we’re good at it therefore will never make money at it.

  • @curtisvaughan8217
    @curtisvaughan8217 4 года назад +1

    Free land and homes for all! Accepting new citizen in so called bc!
    Please I need help finding new settlers, my native allies are waiting for you!

  • @brettlaw4346
    @brettlaw4346 4 года назад +1

    This is a paradigm issue. Those who live in the world of classical computing operate in binary. Those of us that are a bit more quantum can see a choice as AND/BOTH and use that option to more quickly come to the desired outcome. There is one reason you might have to choose between money and passion, that would be that you're not good enough to operate in a quantum paradigm or that the quantum solution is incompatible with your desired end state. In which case, that is a choice. You also have the choice to reject the inputs and wait for a better option. Also, know that in sequence problems are harder to solve the farther they go along, in traditional gauntlet fashion. Also, be aware of the secretary problem.

  • @UserName-ii1ce
    @UserName-ii1ce 3 года назад +1

    Hey I'm in x ray tech school too. This vid was a huge deciding factor in my educational and career path. My commjnity college X-ray program made me realize I love biology