0:00 Max says LeBron has hurt Steph’s legacy. 3:00 Stephen A. on LeBron’s legacy. 5:30 Stephen A. asks Max what their records are when they face each other.
What’s funny is that in 2015, no other player on the warriors averaged over 17 ppg (besides Steph). Curry should have been finals mvp in 2015. Iguodala won it by... defending Lebron well?? Bron averaged well over 30. Curry is the main reason they won the chip that year. Klay was barely an all-star. Draymond wasn’t an all-star just a bunch of role players and still won the chip. What about 2013? When Stephen Curry basically single handedly beat the nuggets in the first round. Nuggets were the 3rd seed while the warriors were the 6th. Second round he took the Spurs to 6 games. That same Spurs team almost beat Miami in 6 if Ray Allen didn’t hit that shot. Wade and Bosh become underrated. LeBron did have a super team in Miami. Yet lost in 2011 against dirk and had a worse meltdown than Steph had in 2016. Also, Steph had an MCL sprain that was severe and yet he didn’t play as bad as LeBron did in 2011 when LeBron was healthy. So Curry already took the warriors to the playoffs without an all star or superstar (2013 and 2014) so he really doesn’t have anything else to prove. Also, this year the warriors are like 2-7 without Curry. If he didn’t injure his tailbone they would most likely be 5th seed right now. Curry should be this years mvp. And the fact that without Curry this warriors team Is basically the same team last year that had one of the worst records in nba history is just amazing.
Espn im watching you..tell everyone about kobes highest scoring game, 81 points, on his 666th game scoring 66.67 of teams points with his team scoring 122 points total on 1/22 yes january 22nd. Coincidence my behind. And kobe bean bryant is 81 in gematria. Your secret code has been decrypted. I see the games you all are playing and im exposing it to the masses. We are waking up to whats going on. You cant stop the truth seekers.
@@559jessyr thanks. Gematria effect news is the name of the youtube channel to search to get more details on Whats going in the world and how its all connected.
Imagine MJ playing against the 2nd best player of his generation (KD), the 3rd best of his generation (Curry), the 2nd best shooter of his generation (Klay) and a 1x DPOY (Draymond). That would be something like Karl malone, Olajuwon, Reggie Miller and David Robinson, this is what Lebron faced, MJ never faced anything close to that.
He’s right tho lol. Especially after he made Steph blow a 3-1 lead. Lebron has been constantly hurting Steph’s legacy even tho he’s lost most of the time, which is insane.
@@onestopshop1222 Lol what? Curry is draining clutch 3s in his games this season. Some of the teams won't allow him to shoot clutch 3s and tripled/quadrupled him in clutch moments. Also, Warriors before are destroying teams so they doesn't really have much close games but if they do, Curry still have clutch moments. If you are saying he's not clutch because of that Finals against Toronto, then why people calling Dame clutch if he hasn't even experienced Finals?
@@thisiseliasm4645 Keep in mind Lebron didnt have Kyrie and Love, so he was double, triple teammed everytime, 40% FG is decent, especialy when you score 36points.
@@Anthonydu01630 Exactly just completely ignores those other factors lmao. But I bet if it were someone like Kobe avg 36 a series on 40% he wouldn’t have said anything
Exactly, lebron and curry having there heated moments, then there great friendship moments is what everyone wants to see in the nba, these guys are perfect for eachother and it doesn’t matter who wins or losses it’s just great to see them play against eachother
MAX GOT 1 THING IN ALL CONVERSATION LEBRON WON AND BEAT 73-9 GSW THATS WHY HES BETTER THAN STEPH AND DONT COUNT LEBRON LOSE 3 TIMES TO GSW WITH A SWEEP AND ALL 3 LOSE OF LEBRON NOT EVEN GO TO 7 GAMES AND THINK LEBRON IS MUCH BETTER TO MJ WHO IS 100% WIN RATE IN THE FINALS ALL WIN IN 6 GAMES BELOW AND LEBRON GOT SWEEP 2 TIMES IN HIS FINALS CAREER AND ALMOST FOUT TIMES SWEEP HE JUST GOT 1 WIN TO 5 GAMES LEBRON NOT EVEN CLOSE TO KOBE MUCH MORE TO MJ
@@Shemzinho absolutely not😂😂 Especially after Kendrick Perkins (who was on that Cavs team)was on the show and told Max the game plan was to let Andre shoot open shots so long as Steph didnt get any. For Max to sit there with a stupid smile and double down made me lose respect for him.
Imagine MJ playing against the 2nd best player of his generation (KD), the 3rd best of his generation (Curry), the 2nd best shooter of his generation (Klay) and a 1x DPOY (Draymond). That would be something like Karl malone, Olajuwon, Reggie Miller and David Robinson, this is what Lebron faced, MJ never faced anything close to that.
Ooh… I haven’t watched this one yet, but I’m thinking about having a drinking game where we drink everytime max says, “fate of the universe on the line, “conductor of the greatest offense”, “didn’t score a single point”, etc lol
Steph's legacy is changing the game as we know it, being the greatest shooter of all-time & being the greatest player that wore the Golden State jersey. Not LeBron nor anyone could ever hurt that
@@jerry1192 except thats decided by analysts and journalists , like Max. They've admitted to be naking decisions based on the narrative. 2015 is a great example
@@jerry1192 Curry took a backseat to manage all the egos in golden state. He knew that ddurant wanted his buckets, and to be "that" guy. Curry valued overall team success rather than individual success.
@@jerry1192 KD is probably the most skilled and talented ever for any team he played on but its because he joined the warriors when they were already champions that it takes away. If he joined them and made them champions along side steph instead of after they were aleady champs than hed easily be up there. Wilt or Steph is the greatest warrior and KD is the most skilled warrior.
@@indeeditsryu9579 KD has never really been that type of guy just like curry hes near impossible to guard except curry is nearly unstoppable from the 3 as where KD is nearly unstoppable everywhere on the floor. Only ego on GS would be draymond but he isnt someone who needs the ball which is perfect. KD, Curry, and Klay are all pass and shoot which is what made them unstoppable.
Steph Curry: Has a individual season better than his unanimous mvp season and put his team in place to make the playoffs despite their injuries Max: The 2016 finals decided that Steph will never be a great player. James harden and Dame NEVER disappear like that
without steph there would be no splash bros!!! without steph there would be no 73 win warriors team which attracted kevin durant. without steph there would be no kd in the warriors and no team in the west could stand up against lebron and kyrie. lebron would've had 7 rings and 7 finals mvps along with his accolades and numbers which would give him unfair advantage over jordan
actually i can argue steph helped his legacy bc lebrons cleveland win is the most iconic nba championship of recnt history and if lebron didnt beat a 73-9 team even though he might have more rings proabaly not 7 casue of injuries they wouldnt be as impressive as a 3-1 comeback
Steph came out of nowhere and created a championship team which beat Bron once without KD, almost twice, attracted a superstar in KD to Warriors, and beat Bron twice. 3-1 record against Bron in the finals. If anything, it's the other way around!
@@colewrld901 So the team in 2015 who won- Steph, Klay, Green, Barnes WERE ALL DRAFTED. Not bought. Warriors made great draft decisions, not our fault that Cleveland didn't!
@@stephencurryarchive6670 they did, but kyrie and love were both hurt and theys till went to 6 games, if kyrie and love played the cavs would have won in 6 games
With all due respect, KD joined a 73 win team, a team that went to 2 straight finals and won 1, a team that has Stephen Curry won back to back MVP as one with a unanimous MVP. That team was really really good even without KD. Look at the team records when KD didn't play and Steph played and vice versa then talk about the impact.
3 rings + 2 scoring titles + 2 MVPs + greatest shooter + a man who changed a game + multiple all time records Sorry Max, the only thing that is hurt is your brain 😂
@@jhacebuckley5204 are you crazy? Have you seen his finals averages? They are better than a lot fmvps in the past. Everybody and their mama know that steph was robbed in 2015 and there was a legitimate argument for 2018. HE WAS NOT CARRIED, so giving the situation, how not having a finals mvp makes his rings invalid??
@@welin07wm First and foremost. 2015 was never Currys. The warriors were down in the series 2-1. They had to put igoudala in to stop lebron to win the finals. If igoudala never locked up lebron. The cavaliers would of won. Yes his rings are kinda tainted when you look up that he's the only multiple time mvp without a finals mvp. Meaning you are the most valuable player on your team, but on the biggest stage your team outperforms you ????
Similar situation with cavs n the 73 win warriors. That team was compromised with injuries, but they NEVER mention that when it's brought up. Only that their king came back from a 3/1 deficit. Look now, LeBron broke safety protocol but they are allowing him to play next game. If that isn't telling you something, nothing will.
Durant - LeBron Curry - Kyrie Klay - Korver/Jr Smith Green - Tristan thompson Iguadala - Kevin love That's a pretty even match up what's the excuse when they say golden state beat Cleveland because of Kevin Durant??
Max is dogging Curry out like this because it’s more than likely the warriors are getting blown out tomorrow so he’s gonna look like such a genius and Curry is gonna look like a overrated player.
Don’t let them play you steph curry deserves nothing but respect from nba fans he put a hurt franchise in his shoulders and made them proud and I’m a laker fan who’s lived all his life in La and works for The staples center currently
& he brings up kyrie n love missing the finals then doesnt mention them when referring to lbj beating the 73 win squad. But mentions curry supporting cast. He acts like lebron did it alone.
He didn’t get schooled Max just saying if Kd never came in the picture Bron would of just kept beating Curry. KD is the one who altered Lebron’s legacy. He too great of a player to join Steph & Klay. That’s the one of the top 5 scorers all time and the two greatest shooters of all time in their PRIMES. Bron and Kyrie couldn’t even do it
@@felipe5955 Not to diminish KD’s impact. It’s a head up convo on Steph and Bron. Bron is in “the Goat” convo, Steph is in a different convo (Greatest Shooter of all time). It’s a Reggie Miller vs MJ conversation. It’s their legacy, meaning whatever impression they leave behind. Steph has taken more away from the debate MJ/Lebron debate than Lebron did for Steph/Ray Allen. Steven A is dead on. Max got lost in the best player side. I love Steph. Born and bread Dubs fan (Bay Native), but Max is wrong and he knows it. It’s on his face when Steven A starts talking. 💯
Imagine MJ playing against the 2nd best player of his generation (KD), the 3rd best of his generation (Curry), the 2nd best shooter of his generation (Klay) and a 1x DPOY (Draymond). That would be something like Karl malone, Olajuwon, Reggie Miller and David Robinson, this is what Lebron faced, MJ never faced anything close to that.
@@Anthonydu01630 Not arguing that though. I agree. But they’re two different conversations. Lebron’s Goat legacy was impacted more by Steph, than Lebron’s impact on Steph’s legacy as the greatest shooter. Steph isn’t in the MJ/Lebron Goat convo.
The reason why is cuz he feels that the 2016 season is still hanging over Curry’s head. It’s still something that applies to Curry’s legacy today. Curry hasn’t had pure redemption from that, cuz he needed KD to win championships after losing that series, and he was never the “guy” to win the chip, which 2016 was that season for him to win being the guy with no questions asked. It’s a valid argument, but to be fair, on either side of the coin, there’s not a wrong answer. Curry could’ve been the potential GOAT after 2016 but he ended up losing that opportunity which hurts his legacy, but still, Curry’s legacy is amazing no matter which perspective you look at it.
@@ademalic7903 Warriors in 2019 could've won in 2019 or atleast forced a game 7 if it wasnt for klay going down in game 6, and steph was averaging 30.5 that series, he was THAT dude in that finals series. Also, after the warriors lost 2016, they didnt need KD, they needed to make small adjustments because they lost by 1 possesion. In fact, KD was only the icing on the cake more than anything, he got open looks because of Steph and Klay which made him more dangerous.
And what Max said about who-ever coming out of the West would have beaten Lebron is a dumb joke. In 2015, had it not been GS, Lebron would have beaten that Rockets team with Harden and Dwight Howard even without Love and Kyrie. And in 2017 I would give Lebron a great shot to win had it not been against GS but the Spurs.
@@edilsonperengue3669 how can it be a “super team” when both of the players that joined Lebron on the Cavs hadn’t even been to the playoffs before? Kyrie was getting lottery picks every year before Lebron and K. Love was no where near the playoffs either. You want to say Miami was a super team well then sure but the Cavs weren’t by any stretch of the imagination. KD joining the Warriors is a Super Duper team and pretty much an all star team on its own.
@@geraldmunoz8491 both Kyrie and K. Love were all-star/super star talents on the Cavs. Plus the cavs had a good bench. Then add LeBron and you have a super team. Its pretty clear dude open your eyes
SAS you lie... GSW were not Steph team MAX is right... GSW have to bring KD as rescuer to overcome Lebron Lebron was not even with Kyrie Irvin Sorry SAS Cavaliers was Lebron Team...but GSW were not the team of Steph GSW were a collective team...
@@robgotit You can’t bring up injuries in 2016 when the year prior the Warriors faced a Cavaliers team missing their two best players next to LeBron lol Injuries happen. Draymond getting suspended was his fault for amounting so many technical fouls.. not to mention the game he missed LeBron dropped 45 and when he came back Bron dropped 45 again😂 and there was still another game after and the Warriors still lost. 2015 Bron took them to 6 literally by himself, 2016 Cavs won 2017-2018 people don’t like to count them because KD joined and at the beginning of those seasons it was already obvious the Warriors were going to win the Chip.
@@AllBackends Im bringing up 2016 because of 2015 if the 2015 isn't legit then 2016 isn't. The tech on Draymond wasn't warranted based on the stakes. Bogut was legit out and curry and igoudala were playing hurt. Lastly if 2017-2018 dont count then should 2012 and 2013 count or is it only when its against lebron
@@robgotit What kinda sense does that make? That doesn’t even correlate why shouldn’t 2012 or 2013 count? People weren’t saying well the Heat are winning it all there’s no competition lmfao Mavs beat the Heat and so did the Spurs.. None of those teams including the Heat were a 73-9 team with Two Superstars in Kd and Curry, All-Star in Klay arguably one of the greatest shooters of all time and Draymond a former DPYO and All-Star when Warriors are healthy..
@@Jjj-zz7bz I think Max was absolutely right tbh; any other superstar other than lebron james on the cavs and the warriors probably win 4-5 chips in a row and steph curry ENTERS the discussion as the GOAT. Now curry is considered the best shooter, best warrior, etc, but hes not discussed in the GOAT discussion when he very well could've been
@@ramiamer5607 But they really weren’t unbeatable until they got Kd. If it wasn’t for the Warriors Lebron would have 6 or 7 rings. I can see both sides of the argument honestly
@@Jjj-zz7bz not really. They Warriors learn their lesson about overvaluing the regular season, take their time, and return a lot more healthy than they were. They got to game 7 with the splash bros building a brick house - so idk man
If Draymond haven't got suspended in the 2016 Finals for literally doing nothing, the Warriors could have got a three-peat. Instead, they lost and LeBron could have not won the Finals that season. Finals Draymond was actually better than Klay or sometimes Steph at one time.
So One good game means draymond should win fmvp.. but if Steph has an off game the media uses Any excuse to not give him the award. Steph should’ve been fmvp in 2015 and 2018 if we’re being honest
Max is so wrong about the comment of if Bron didn’t have Kyrie and KLove against any team that came out of the west 2015 he still would’ve lost. The Warriors played the Rockets in the WCF that year when it was just James by himself, 2015 Bron would’ve destroyed that Rockets team
@@zamirgopackgo6817 facts ppl called him the goat after 2016 acting like that didnt make up for the atrocious choke job that was 2011 to even out his legacy
What’s funny is that in 2015, no other player on the warriors averaged over 17 ppg (besides Steph). Curry should have been finals mvp in 2015. Iguodala won it by... defending Lebron well?? Bron averaged well over 30. Curry is the main reason they won the chip that year. Klay was barely an all-star. Draymond wasn’t an all-star just a bunch of role players and still won the chip. What about 2013? When Stephen Curry basically single handedly beat the nuggets in the first round. Nuggets were the 3rd seed while the warriors were the 6th. Second round he took the Spurs to 6 games. That same Spurs team almost beat Miami in 6 if Ray Allen didn’t hit that shot. Wade and Bosh become underrated. LeBron did have a super team in Miami. Yet lost in 2011 against dirk and had a worse meltdown than Steph had in 2016. Also, Steph had an MCL sprain that was severe and yet he didn’t play as bad as LeBron did in 2011 when LeBron was healthy. So Curry already took the warriors to the playoffs without an all star or superstar (2013 and 2014) so he really doesn’t have anything else to prove. Also, this year the warriors are like 2-7 without Curry. If he didn’t injure his tailbone they would most likely be 5th seed right now. Curry should be this years mvp. And the fact that without Curry this warriors team Is basically the same team last year that had one of the worst records in nba history is just amazing.
Dude is a beast he may or may not steal an mvp from jokic, some may claim he stole from bron. He gonna go down as top 10 or top 20 all time. If anything this has been a nice ending to bron career, curry played the bad/good guy to lebron’s reign. It’s been awesome actually. We didn’t get to see bron vs Kobe in finals but we got a chance see curry and bron for 4 finals?! Awesome. Loved every minute of it
6:15 SAS got Max here. Max kept saying KD was the reason warriors won against Lebron after he joined them but doesnt agree that KD and westbrook could beat the same team. Meaning that Steph isn't nothing. Steph DID hurt Lebron's legacy
In recent years, finals mvp was given to lebron or the player who could guard him well. (2014 Kawhi, 2015 Iggy) That's why Steph couldn't get it even once.
Reverse. Also: I love how Max gives a Synopsis on the 2015 Finals, but doesn’t tell any details about the 2016 Finals, like idk; Steph injured, Iggy Injured in Game 5, Bogut out, & of course the weakest Suspension I’ve ever seen, that happened to be instigated by LBJ.
Steph got injured only in the Finals? Or the whole playoffs? Iggy was injured in Game 5 where the series was 3-1 right? Bogut was averaging what during the series? Oh and Draymond being suspended was weak because? Should we discount the nut-kicking incidents? And didnt he come back in Game 6?
@@noreenhannahgabriel9410 Steph was injured before the Finals that year, I don't know when it happened but I know it impacted him in the series against the Thunder. If it wasn't for Klay Thompson they would have missed the Finals.
Stephen a has a point about the warriors keeping LeBron from winning more but max explains the circumstances and explains why LeBrons legacy wasn’t hugely affected by losing because of the circumstances
2 of them with superteams cuz they had kd like imagine being a 73 win team and adding an mvp just to beat the 🐏 and 1 of them when Kyrie and Kevin love were injured and LeBron also came back from a 3-1 lead to a 73 win
@@ArchanaSingh-ji1gb cry cry cry... hahaha. last time I checked, Steph is not "the Chosen" "The prodigy" not on Sports Illustrated Front Cover. Steph never recruited by college teams, did not go straight to NBA, nor a household name when playing his first few years then Boom, 2014 happen! So yeah, cry all u want, no one is saying Steph is better than Lebron but he has his number. Its 3-1. 😆😆😆 I see 3-1 jokes coming. hahaha
SAS is leaving out the context of KD joining the Warriors. In SAS case, you can technically say Iggy a lesser player to Steph; ruined LeBron's legacy by beating him 3 times and winning finals MVP. As it maybe true without all the context it still sounds silly...
SAS point makes sense though. Because the only reason GSW was in a position to get KD was because of Steph. The system was still tailored to Steph's game even with the addition of KD. Steph wasnt the best player but he was still the most important piece on the team. When he didn't play they didn't even look the same. Spacing was off and KD used a lot more isos. In there last season with KD they overused iso ball. That was part of the reason the clippers could take them to 7 games. KD wanted to show he was that guy and doing that made games closers than they had to be. Using Iguodola and Steph comparison doesn't work. One was and still is the focal point of an offense. While the other one was a reliable role player you could count on to make big plays and play defense.
Curry is the reason GS was a championship contender that attracted KD. If Dirk was able to beat LeBron and the loaded Heat, why couldn't LeBron beat GS ?
@@micahkiyimba8641 The difference is. Lebron chocked that series and underperformed. If Lebron played like his regular self that series, the mavs wouldve gotten swept.
Every time I hear Max say this about Curry and the 73 W season, I never understand how nobody mentions the fact that Curry was playing hurt and got knee surgery after the finals. The iconic video of Lebron slapping Curry’s shot while standing over him makes more sense when you realize he literally needed knee surgery. But 🍵 🐸
@@Tech-cy9yo Not really because it started with Steph and Bron wouldn’t because even if KD didn’t go to GS, GS was gonna get rid of half of their team regardless after that finals performance and would’ve gone after other players and would’ve been motivated to get back them.
Max needs to chill man 😂😂 We know Curry messed up Brons legacy.. and Bron is even lucky, cause Warriors could have would have 3-peated and then the narrative would’ve been even more crazy
@@bbbllsels2773 Cry more hater lmao KD is a trophy they got when they spanked the Thunder on 2016 WCF. Warriors earned KD from winning againts Thunder not given. 😂
0:00 Max says LeBron has hurt Steph’s legacy.
3:00 Stephen A. on LeBron’s legacy.
5:30 Stephen A. asks Max what their records are when they face each other.
What’s funny is that in 2015, no other player on the warriors averaged over 17 ppg (besides Steph). Curry should have been finals mvp in 2015. Iguodala won it by... defending Lebron well?? Bron averaged well over 30. Curry is the main reason they won the chip that year. Klay was barely an all-star. Draymond wasn’t an all-star just a bunch of role players and still won the chip.
What about 2013?
When Stephen Curry basically single handedly beat the nuggets in the first round. Nuggets were the 3rd seed while the warriors were the 6th. Second round he took the Spurs to 6 games. That same Spurs team almost beat Miami in 6 if Ray Allen didn’t hit that shot.
Wade and Bosh become underrated. LeBron did have a super team in Miami. Yet lost in 2011 against dirk and had a worse meltdown than Steph had in 2016.
Also, Steph had an MCL sprain that was severe and yet he didn’t play as bad as LeBron did in 2011 when LeBron was healthy.
So Curry already took the warriors to the playoffs without an all star or superstar (2013 and 2014) so he really doesn’t have anything else to prove.
Also, this year the warriors are like 2-7 without Curry. If he didn’t injure his tailbone they would most likely be 5th seed right now. Curry should be this years mvp. And the fact that without Curry this warriors team Is basically the same team last year that had one of the worst records in nba history is just amazing.
@@559jessyr took the words out my mouth
Espn im watching you..tell everyone about kobes highest scoring game, 81 points, on his 666th game scoring 66.67 of teams points with his team scoring 122 points total on 1/22 yes january 22nd. Coincidence my behind. And kobe bean bryant is 81 in gematria. Your secret code has been decrypted. I see the games you all are playing and im exposing it to the masses. We are waking up to whats going on. You cant stop the truth seekers.
@@JamilMusicLoverSingleton I’ll spread this too
@@559jessyr thanks. Gematria effect news is the name of the youtube channel to search to get more details on Whats going in the world and how its all connected.
The only thing that hurt Curry's legacy was
*I G U O D A L A*
igudala is the best player according to someone
Iguodala better than LeFailure
@@zamirgopackgo6817 you might be right
@@michaelosakwe4129 im always right
Iggy and KD carried curry
TO BE VERY HONEST , BOTH OF THEM HAVE HURT EACH OTHER'S LEGACY
Tbh very honest both of them are owned by KD
@@zamirgopackgo6817 didn't KD blow a 3-1 lead to curry and have to join him💀 and loose to bron in the finals
@@zamirgopackgo6817 If anything Steph own KD... beat him and made him wanna come play with him.
@@samribz3320 If KD is better than curry why can't he beat curry. And during that time durant harden curry and Westbrook are the same age
*To be very honest
Don’t let social media melt your brain. 👍
The only person who's hurting Steph's legacy is Max.
Yep
No cap if stephen a praises curry or anyone else praises him max always needs to bring another player in f*ck off
HAHAHAAA
Max can't hurt anyone's legacy except his own (Considering he has one)
1:17 I felt the same way listening to Max🤦🏽♂️ Tbh I wanted to punch max in the face on Real time for talkn blasphemous
Wouldnt expect anything from the person who would iggy over steph to shoot for the fate of the universe 😂
Imagine MJ playing against the 2nd best player of his generation (KD), the 3rd best of his generation (Curry), the 2nd best shooter of his generation (Klay) and a 1x DPOY (Draymond). That would be something like Karl malone, Olajuwon, Reggie Miller and David Robinson, this is what Lebron faced, MJ never faced anything close to that.
@@Anthonydu01630 2 centers a pf and a sg lmao yeah no.
He’s right tho lol. Especially after he made Steph blow a 3-1 lead. Lebron has been constantly hurting Steph’s legacy even tho he’s lost most of the time, which is insane.
@@leultrainstinct406 curry hurts lebrons legacy...
@@leultrainstinct406 Bron would have 7 rings if it wasn’t for curry...curry has hurt bron legacy also💀
This is like saying magic and bird hurt each other’s legacy which wasn’t the case. Their back and forth in winning titles enhanced their legacies
It's best to tune Max out least you get brain damage..
I liked the part wherer SAS finally told told us that Stephen Curry is the greatest shooter God ever created.
AMEN 🏀
Don't ever forget that
Did you know that he can shoot from the parking lot too😂
Also, Dell Curry is not god.
Best 3 point shooter yes. Greatest SHOOTER?
Stephen curry shouldn't even be in the nba
This man ignores every other steph playoff series
Because CurFraud's legacy is saved by KD
@@zamirgopackgo6817 Kd legacy got saved by curry dumbfuck
Because Lebron won all his rings without all nba players
@@aryanvenkata3047 Why didn't Durant win a championship before joining Curry? Curry won a championship before KD got there.
@@treesnclips5845 So your saying D-Wade, Anthony Davis, and Kyrie are not All-NBA Players? Are you kidding me?
I wouldn't be surprised if Max said, "I rather have Rudy Gobert take a game tying 3pt over Curry".
🤣😂 Fr, bruh says some wild ish.
Hahahah,
underated comment
curry wouldnt make it.. he aint clutch
@@onestopshop1222 Lol what? Curry is draining clutch 3s in his games this season. Some of the teams won't allow him to shoot clutch 3s and tripled/quadrupled him in clutch moments. Also, Warriors before are destroying teams so they doesn't really have much close games but if they do, Curry still have clutch moments. If you are saying he's not clutch because of that Finals against Toronto, then why people calling Dame clutch if he hasn't even experienced Finals?
4:48 Molly looking at Max like a snack 😂
😂
I know it’s a joke but she was ready to capitalize on his mishap.
She is gorgeous when silent. But the second she speaks... 🤦🏾🤦🏾 All downhill from there
😂. Just for that. I'm going to save this video for spank bank
@@joehick6227 u aint gotta lie bro. U saving it cuz of max🤤🤤
I love how they gave igoudala finals mvp for holding bron to like 36 a game lol
On 40% from the field. Not impressive.
His shooting percentage went down when guarded by iggy don’t forget that part.
@@thisiseliasm4645 Keep in mind Lebron didnt have Kyrie and Love, so he was double, triple teammed everytime, 40% FG is decent, especialy when you score 36points.
@@Anthonydu01630 Exactly just completely ignores those other factors lmao. But I bet if it were someone like Kobe avg 36 a series on 40% he wouldn’t have said anything
@@Anthonydu01630 Yes but just scoring points doesn’t make you deserve MVP. Curry should’ve been MVP in 2015.
I would say they helped each other's legacy...A good rivalry does that...
Exactly
Until KD intervened
LeBum is a fraud, KD embarrassed him twice in the finals
That's a good point
neither need to prove
I think kd need to prove
I don’t see them hurting, I see them helping. The fact that they have beat each other - greats beating greats is what we want to see!
Much like Bird and Johnson or Bird and Thomas
Precisely
Ya... but basketball is a TEAM sport. Lebron and Steph couldn't have helped or hurt each others' legacy on their own.
perfect comment!
Exactly, lebron and curry having there heated moments, then there great friendship moments is what everyone wants to see in the nba, these guys are perfect for eachother and it doesn’t matter who wins or losses it’s just great to see them play against eachother
Im sure Max doesn't hate the bullies that tortured him in high school more than he hates Steph curry
MAX GOT 1 THING IN ALL CONVERSATION LEBRON WON AND BEAT 73-9 GSW THATS WHY HES BETTER THAN STEPH AND DONT COUNT LEBRON LOSE 3 TIMES TO GSW WITH A SWEEP AND ALL 3 LOSE OF LEBRON NOT EVEN GO TO 7 GAMES AND THINK LEBRON IS MUCH BETTER TO MJ WHO IS 100% WIN RATE IN THE FINALS ALL WIN IN 6 GAMES BELOW AND LEBRON GOT SWEEP 2 TIMES IN HIS FINALS CAREER AND ALMOST FOUT TIMES SWEEP HE JUST GOT 1 WIN TO 5 GAMES LEBRON NOT EVEN CLOSE TO KOBE MUCH MORE TO MJ
@@doomaverion218 dude get off the coke
Steph beats Lebron 3 times out of 4 Finals.
Max- "Lebron hurt Steph's legacy."
0 finals mvp
@@BrotherAcee snubbed twice
@@BrotherAcee where is yours at
@@ScumBA445 in my trophy case
@@christianmorgan5956 once actually...KD earned his
Max Kellerman hates Steph Curry because analytics can't explain what he does
I think he loss big cash on that 73 win team
@code cheated out of the first and the one in 2018, Steph was statically better than iggy and KD but context is irrelevant nowadays
@@Artemistt_ Steph was never better statistically better than kd in the finals did u even look at their numbers lbvs?
@@lilblast7745 He outplayed KD 3 of the 4 games in the 2018 finals
@@Artemistt_ Lol Curry fanboys are so delusional.
SAS is having Flashbacks of when he was with Skip Bayless...
Bruh, dude not even listening. I feel bad cause he's getting arrogant. Makes me not want to watch anymore
@@leclark5067 bye then 👋
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@@leclark5067 espn and the nba are partners
@@rebel8247 no, espn has rights of use. Judging by your lack of videos, you don't
Who else just waiting for Stephen A to talk about kwame brown later😭😭
Nah that would give all the smoke free marketing. Espn don’t play that
Kwame got his finger on the trigger. He already killed Becky Barnes 😅
This what u waiting for lol
😂😂
Who??
😭" u slick Stephen A., u good. If I'm not sitting here, u get away with that nonsense". Max...mannnn
From this day on, if the topic is about Steph and max is on the show, I know not to take the topic serious.
The Iguodala meme didn't change your mind???
@@Shemzinho absolutely not😂😂
Especially after Kendrick Perkins (who was on that Cavs team)was on the show and told Max the game plan was to let Andre shoot open shots so long as Steph didnt get any.
For Max to sit there with a stupid smile and double down made me lose respect for him.
@@johnkttraining I remember that. A man with principles, I respect you bro
@@seriustraco revisionist history strikes again
@@seriustraco someone's hurt lmaoooooooo no one's reading that soliloquy bruh
“i am actually great when i’m going up against you...... you’re right, you’re great yo even stay in a conversation with me” 😂😂
😂
as a warriors fan, stephen a is always speaking for me 😭😭😭😂
Lmao same here
Lmao same here
Exactly. He loves those "brothas". They really special lol.
Same.Stephen is the real warriors hero.🤣
Imagine MJ playing against the 2nd best player of his generation (KD), the 3rd best of his generation (Curry), the 2nd best shooter of his generation (Klay) and a 1x DPOY (Draymond). That would be something like Karl malone, Olajuwon, Reggie Miller and David Robinson, this is what Lebron faced, MJ never faced anything close to that.
We all gonna just ignore that Molly said "records are statistics of events"?
Shes so dumb 😂😂😂😭
😂😂😂
Idiot😂
😂😂😂
Lol
Ooh… I haven’t watched this one yet, but I’m thinking about having a drinking game where we drink everytime max says, “fate of the universe on the line, “conductor of the greatest offense”, “didn’t score a single point”, etc lol
Yooo Stephen A's face had me weak for like the first 2 minutes😂😂😂
Steph's legacy is changing the game as we know it, being the greatest shooter of all-time & being the greatest player that wore the Golden State jersey. Not LeBron nor anyone could ever hurt that
Some say KD was the greatest player to ever play in golden state. And to Max's point, Steph never won a finals MVP. That's something to think about.
@@jerry1192 except thats decided by analysts and journalists , like Max. They've admitted to be naking decisions based on the narrative. 2015 is a great example
@@jerry1192 Curry took a backseat to manage all the egos in golden state. He knew that ddurant wanted his buckets, and to be "that" guy. Curry valued overall team success rather than individual success.
@@jerry1192 KD is probably the most skilled and talented ever for any team he played on but its because he joined the warriors when they were already champions that it takes away. If he joined them and made them champions along side steph instead of after they were aleady champs than hed easily be up there. Wilt or Steph is the greatest warrior and KD is the most skilled warrior.
@@indeeditsryu9579 KD has never really been that type of guy just like curry hes near impossible to guard except curry is nearly unstoppable from the 3 as where KD is nearly unstoppable everywhere on the floor. Only ego on GS would be draymond but he isnt someone who needs the ball which is perfect. KD, Curry, and Klay are all pass and shoot which is what made them unstoppable.
“Well first of all, *sigh* ... Not only are you wrong, blasphemous, and utterly ridiculous..”
😂
LMFAO
Steph Curry: Has a individual season better than his unanimous mvp season and put his team in place to make the playoffs despite their injuries
Max: The 2016 finals decided that Steph will never be a great player. James harden and Dame NEVER disappear like that
Max is a idiot
funny thing is, Curry has better playoff stats in almost every major category than Lillard. Max only watches highlights
Exactly.... Seems Max existence is to be against Curry and try to belittle him...😂😂
I’m beginning to hate Max like all he does now is hate on Curry like bro Steph is better than magic.
Fax
The 16 warriors were injured too just like the 15 cavs so...
Lol who!?? The Cavs didn't have love and kyrie for most of the finals. Which player on the warriors was equivalent to those two.
@@snakeplay Steph was hurt and so was Iggy
@@lewisjones3345 iggy and steph hurt?! this is dumb af lol they were fully healthy pls
I agree - they cancel each other out. 2017 was supposed to be a fair fight - the KD happened…
Max right always
without steph there would be no splash bros!!! without steph there would be no 73 win warriors team which attracted kevin durant. without steph there would be no kd in the warriors and no team in the west could stand up against lebron and kyrie. lebron would've had 7 rings and 7 finals mvps along with his accolades and numbers which would give him unfair advantage over jordan
And now that's precisely how Steph hurt brons legacy
Without klay and steph
actually i can argue steph helped his legacy bc lebrons cleveland win is the most iconic nba championship of recnt history and if lebron didnt beat a 73-9 team even though he might have more rings proabaly not 7 casue of injuries they wouldnt be as impressive as a 3-1 comeback
Same could be said about Klay, Draymond, and Iggy.
FAX
Max is turning into Nick Wright before our very eyes.
Pendejo
Fr
Whos that?
@@handsomedevil254 it's not even worth knowing lol
He's becoming truly unwatchable smfh
Remember when LeBron said he couldn't win his current guys and half the team got traded at the deadline....That happened twice
Because he is LeFraud
2018 and 2019?
that actually hasn’t happened twice. and the Cavs were playing absolutely horrible by their standards when it happened. so it made sense
@@100ovrbatmanbron7It did happen twice. He's talking about 2017 and 2018.
@@zamirgopackgo6817 man just shut up you casual
“Those weren’t steph curry teams”💀💀💀I’m weak 😭😭
The same way Andre won the mvp just for checking LeBron is the exact same reason Leonard won his against LeBron
Steph came out of nowhere and created a championship team which beat Bron once without KD, almost twice, attracted a superstar in KD to Warriors, and beat Bron twice. 3-1 record against Bron in the finals. If anything, it's the other way around!
Too long me no read
Beating LeBron with no help in 2015 and adding KD for cheap rings in 2017 and 2018 isn't that impressive. KD hurt stephs legacy
@@zamirgopackgo6817Packers fans can't read anyways
@@colewrld901 So the team in 2015 who won- Steph, Klay, Green, Barnes WERE ALL DRAFTED. Not bought. Warriors made great draft decisions, not our fault that Cleveland didn't!
@@stephencurryarchive6670 they did, but kyrie and love were both hurt and theys till went to 6 games, if kyrie and love played the cavs would have won in 6 games
Also, Steph Curry did not choke most of the time in the finals!!!! Beside few games, he had All-Time performances!!!!
Exactly but people just ignore this
He never had 8 in a finals game 🤫
When u getting doubled and tripled team in every playoffs u gonna have a couple/few bad games 🤷🏾♂️ ijs
Exactly, everyone making it seem like he was a role player in the finals cause he ain’t win FMVP
@@YoungJr2011 when has steph ever been doubled in a finals game
The look on Stephen A’s face says it all lol
With all due respect, KD joined a 73 win team, a team that went to 2 straight finals and won 1, a team that has Stephen Curry won back to back MVP as one with a unanimous MVP. That team was really really good even without KD.
Look at the team records when KD didn't play and Steph played and vice versa then talk about the impact.
SAS and Skip know how to disagree without saying a word 😂
3 rings + 2 scoring titles + 2 MVPs + greatest shooter + a man who changed a game + multiple all time records
Sorry Max, the only thing that is hurt is your brain 😂
0 finals mvp kinda makes the rings irrelevant.
Max is a fool..Someone needs to put this man in his place
@@jhacebuckley5204 are you crazy? Have you seen his finals averages? They are better than a lot fmvps in the past. Everybody and their mama know that steph was robbed in 2015 and there was a legitimate argument for 2018. HE WAS NOT CARRIED, so giving the situation, how not having a finals mvp makes his rings invalid??
@@welin07wm First and foremost. 2015 was never Currys. The warriors were down in the series 2-1. They had to put igoudala in to stop lebron to win the finals. If igoudala never locked up lebron. The cavaliers would of won.
Yes his rings are kinda tainted when you look up that he's the only multiple time mvp without a finals mvp. Meaning you are the most valuable player on your team, but on the biggest stage your team outperforms you ????
@@jhacebuckley5204 You're right. I just talked to Steph and he agrees. He wants your address so he can FedEx those irrelevant rings to you.
That look from SAS 00:50 priceless.
how has LeBron hurt Steph's legacy when LeBron is literally 1-3 against the man LMAOOO max delusional as always
Context my dude
Take KD off the team and that record ain’t the same
Typical morons result based analysis ignoring the fact that curry always had the better team and wasn’t even the best player on the court
@Keandré Sutton you acting like in 2017 LeBron didn't have kyrie love and Thompson and didn't sweep thru the east like the warriors did in the west
If KD didn’t join the Warriors then LeBron would have 5 maybe 6 rings by now
Max spitting nothing but facts this episode
Max after kawhi beat an Injured warriors team: "best player in the world"
Similar situation with cavs n the 73 win warriors. That team was compromised with injuries, but they NEVER mention that when it's brought up. Only that their king came back from a 3/1 deficit. Look now, LeBron broke safety protocol but they are allowing him to play next game. If that isn't telling you something, nothing will.
I guarantee you Curry drops 50 on Lebron Wednesday
Nah kcp will lock him down, curry only shoot 33% from 3 against kcp in his career
I’ll bet that. Got cashapp
Yeah but what about the rest of the team???
And loses 😐
I wish but he probably go 2/18 from three and Warriors lose by 30. Lakers are the most stacked team in nba. It's a mismatch.
Max hates Steph. Every time he talks about Steph he clearly shows the hate he has for him
At about the 5 minute mark I honestly couldn't tell you what they're arguing about anymore.
This was a great segment I need the rest of it
Durant - LeBron
Curry - Kyrie
Klay - Korver/Jr Smith
Green - Tristan thompson
Iguadala - Kevin love
That's a pretty even match up what's the excuse when they say golden state beat Cleveland because of Kevin Durant??
Actually SAS hurts Max’s Legacy 😅😅
sas hurts his own legacy lately
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Max is dogging Curry out like this because it’s more than likely the warriors are getting blown out tomorrow so he’s gonna look like such a genius and Curry is gonna look like a overrated player.
At this point i think Max just hate Steph.
Don’t let them play you steph curry deserves nothing but respect from nba fans he put a hurt franchise in his shoulders and made them proud and I’m a laker fan who’s lived all his life in La and works for The staples center currently
See how max didn’t mention draymond miss game 5 and bogat was out for game 7 and iggy was hurt after game 6...
& he brings up kyrie n love missing the finals then doesnt mention them when referring to lbj beating the 73 win squad. But mentions curry supporting cast. He acts like lebron did it alone.
Max knows he just got schooled again. 🤣🤣🤣
He didn’t get schooled Max just saying if Kd never came in the picture Bron would of just kept beating Curry. KD is the one who altered Lebron’s legacy. He too great of a player to join Steph & Klay. That’s the one of the top 5 scorers all time and the two greatest shooters of all time in their PRIMES. Bron and Kyrie couldn’t even do it
@@felipe5955 Not to diminish KD’s impact. It’s a head up convo on Steph and Bron. Bron is in “the Goat” convo, Steph is in a different convo (Greatest Shooter of all time). It’s a Reggie Miller vs MJ conversation. It’s their legacy, meaning whatever impression they leave behind. Steph has taken more away from the debate MJ/Lebron debate than Lebron did for Steph/Ray Allen.
Steven A is dead on. Max got lost in the best player side. I love Steph. Born and bread Dubs fan (Bay Native), but Max is wrong and he knows it. It’s on his face when Steven A starts talking. 💯
@Pierre Corley He lost though. That doesn’t do anything to help him in the GOAT debate. If he won those final, then yeah.
Imagine MJ playing against the 2nd best player of his generation (KD), the 3rd best of his generation (Curry), the 2nd best shooter of his generation (Klay) and a 1x DPOY (Draymond). That would be something like Karl malone, Olajuwon, Reggie Miller and David Robinson, this is what Lebron faced, MJ never faced anything close to that.
@@Anthonydu01630 Not arguing that though. I agree. But they’re two different conversations. Lebron’s Goat legacy was impacted more by Steph, than Lebron’s impact on Steph’s legacy as the greatest shooter. Steph isn’t in the MJ/Lebron Goat convo.
Their legacies are intertwined. Some of their greatest accomplishments have come against each other.
Best rivalry since Bird and Magic. It helps both of their legacies to me
Max's only argument - "I call it as I see it , I always update myself " and then he goes ahead and contradicts himself
Max KellerBum should retire
The reason why is cuz he feels that the 2016 season is still hanging over Curry’s head. It’s still something that applies to Curry’s legacy today. Curry hasn’t had pure redemption from that, cuz he needed KD to win championships after losing that series, and he was never the “guy” to win the chip, which 2016 was that season for him to win being the guy with no questions asked.
It’s a valid argument, but to be fair, on either side of the coin, there’s not a wrong answer. Curry could’ve been the potential GOAT after 2016 but he ended up losing that opportunity which hurts his legacy, but still, Curry’s legacy is amazing no matter which perspective you look at it.
@@ademalic7903 Warriors in 2019 could've won in 2019 or atleast forced a game 7 if it wasnt for klay going down in game 6, and steph was averaging 30.5 that series, he was THAT dude in that finals series. Also, after the warriors lost 2016, they didnt need KD, they needed to make small adjustments because they lost by 1 possesion. In fact, KD was only the icing on the cake more than anything, he got open looks because of Steph and Klay which made him more dangerous.
@@glorp7833 so what are you arguing? What’s your point?
And what Max said about who-ever coming out of the West would have beaten Lebron is a dumb joke. In 2015, had it not been GS, Lebron would have beaten that Rockets team with Harden and Dwight Howard even without Love and Kyrie. And in 2017 I would give Lebron a great shot to win had it not been against GS but the Spurs.
Stephen be schooling max so much 😹 and im all for it LMFAOOO
Lebron and Steph just help solidify Michael Jordan's GOAT status.
Lebron and steph don’t play against plumbers
@@SlickGriminals so your saying that Karl Malone John Stockton magic Charles Barkley Clyde drexler Gary Payton are plumbers
I get Max's point, but at the end of the day, it's been an awesome rivalry. Both have been in each other's way at some point thru each other's career.
LeSellout should stick to politics
@@zamirgopackgo6817 weird that it bothers you that much, man. Let that man live his life lol we talking basketball.
Bruh if wasn’t for steph curry lebron would have like 7 or 8 rings now..
If it wasn’t for KD joining GS he would easily have 6 or 7 and would probably still be in Cleveland.
@@geraldmunoz8491 the cavs were already a superteam before the warriors made their own...
@@edilsonperengue3669 how can it be a “super team” when both of the players that joined Lebron on the Cavs hadn’t even been to the playoffs before? Kyrie was getting lottery picks every year before Lebron and K. Love was no where near the playoffs either. You want to say Miami was a super team well then sure but the Cavs weren’t by any stretch of the imagination. KD joining the Warriors is a Super Duper team and pretty much an all star team on its own.
@@geraldmunoz8491 pretty sure neither klay or dramond makes playoffs by them self either.
@@geraldmunoz8491 both Kyrie and K. Love were all-star/super star talents on the Cavs. Plus the cavs had a good bench. Then add LeBron and you have a super team. Its pretty clear dude open your eyes
Stephen A just killed Max 😂 l, max just be talking because he wants to hear himself
The opposite actually. Stephen A got bodied.
@@ucheozo7093 Nope! Max got bodied n belittled himself, he basketball takes are trash, he just wants to listen to himself talk on live TV
No he didn't. Stephen A is just being ignorant tbh.
@@KingDicksonK Nah, y'all just ignorant
@@boyzaya15 yes he did
SAS
you lie...
GSW were not Steph team MAX is right...
GSW have to bring KD as rescuer to overcome Lebron
Lebron was not even with Kyrie Irvin
Sorry SAS Cavaliers was Lebron Team...but GSW were not
the team of Steph
GSW were a collective team...
Those 2:10 seconds of max just sums up his basket ball knowledge and hatred towards steph.
I get how he hates on steph and was off topic but nothing he said was wrong 😂 golden state is 0-1 basically vs a bron team with decent talent.
@@marquisjones560 why do 2015,2017,2018 not count
but 2016 curry,igoudala were playing hurt, bogut was out for gm 5-7 and draymond got suspended
@@robgotit You can’t bring up injuries in 2016 when the year prior the Warriors faced a Cavaliers team missing their two best players next to LeBron lol Injuries happen. Draymond getting suspended was his fault for amounting so many technical fouls.. not to mention the game he missed LeBron dropped 45 and when he came back Bron dropped 45 again😂 and there was still another game after and the Warriors still lost. 2015 Bron took them to 6 literally by himself, 2016 Cavs won 2017-2018 people don’t like to count them because KD joined and at the beginning of those seasons it was already obvious the Warriors were going to win the Chip.
@@AllBackends Im bringing up 2016 because of 2015 if the 2015 isn't legit then 2016 isn't. The tech on Draymond wasn't warranted based on the stakes. Bogut was legit out and curry and igoudala were playing hurt. Lastly if 2017-2018 dont count then should 2012 and 2013 count or is it only when its against lebron
@@robgotit What kinda sense does that make? That doesn’t even correlate why shouldn’t 2012 or 2013 count? People weren’t saying well the Heat are winning it all there’s no competition lmfao Mavs beat the Heat and so did the Spurs.. None of those teams including the Heat were a 73-9 team with Two Superstars in Kd and Curry, All-Star in Klay arguably one of the greatest shooters of all time and Draymond a former DPYO and All-Star when Warriors are healthy..
God I love seeing max demoralized when all 3 are in the room
@False Theory Max was wrong here
@False Theory HA! MAX KNOWS VERY LITTLE OUTSIDE OF BOXING CUT IT OUT
@@Jjj-zz7bz I think Max was absolutely right tbh; any other superstar other than lebron james on the cavs and the warriors probably win 4-5 chips in a row and steph curry ENTERS the discussion as the GOAT. Now curry is considered the best shooter, best warrior, etc, but hes not discussed in the GOAT discussion when he very well could've been
@@ramiamer5607 But they really weren’t unbeatable until they got Kd. If it wasn’t for the Warriors Lebron would have 6 or 7 rings. I can see both sides of the argument honestly
@@Jjj-zz7bz not really. They Warriors learn their lesson about overvaluing the regular season, take their time, and return a lot more healthy than they were. They got to game 7 with the splash bros building a brick house - so idk man
If Draymond haven't got suspended in the 2016 Finals for literally doing nothing, the Warriors could have got a three-peat. Instead, they lost and LeBron could have not won the Finals that season. Finals Draymond was actually better than Klay or sometimes Steph at one time.
People forget that in G7 of the 2016 Finals Draymond Green had 32 points, 15 rebounds, 9 assists, shot 11/15fg and went 6/8 from 3pt!!
Exactly!
I remember that and also him being suspended for Game 5 which was the reason it went to Game 7
So One good game means draymond should win fmvp..
but if Steph has an off game the media uses Any excuse to not give him the award. Steph should’ve been fmvp in 2015 and 2018 if we’re being honest
Thats the least he couldve done after costing us Game 5 with his antics.
I don’t
ESPN BETTER FIRE MAX KELLERMAN AND GIVE A CONTRACT TO MATT BARNES.
Max is so wrong about the comment of if Bron didn’t have Kyrie and KLove against any team that came out of the west 2015 he still would’ve lost. The Warriors played the Rockets in the WCF that year when it was just James by himself, 2015 Bron would’ve destroyed that Rockets team
Stephen A when max is talking:
👁👄👁
Bruh, dude not even listening. I feel bad cause he's getting arrogant. Makes me not want to watch anymore
That sas disrespect Max every chance he got. Thinks he knows everything better then Max
@@roireznic5534 he does
More like the other way around.
CurFraud > LeFailure
@@zamirgopackgo6817 Touch grass
Oh, so Steph is 3-1 vs Bron in the Finals but LeBron hurt his legacy
Steph was a role player though
LeBron is the fake GOAT. The NBA wants the Lakers in the finals for views
They want LeBron to 3 peat so he can be the GOAT
@@zamirgopackgo6817 facts ppl called him the goat after 2016 acting like that didnt make up for the atrocious choke job that was 2011 to even out his legacy
Brah
No finals mvps for steph
What’s funny is that in 2015, no other player on the warriors averaged over 17 ppg (besides Steph). Curry should have been finals mvp in 2015. Iguodala won it by... defending Lebron well?? Bron averaged well over 30. Curry is the main reason they won the chip that year. Klay was barely an all-star. Draymond wasn’t an all-star just a bunch of role players and still won the chip.
What about 2013?
When Stephen Curry basically single handedly beat the nuggets in the first round. Nuggets were the 3rd seed while the warriors were the 6th. Second round he took the Spurs to 6 games. That same Spurs team almost beat Miami in 6 if Ray Allen didn’t hit that shot.
Wade and Bosh become underrated. LeBron did have a super team in Miami. Yet lost in 2011 against dirk and had a worse meltdown than Steph had in 2016.
Also, Steph had an MCL sprain that was severe and yet he didn’t play as bad as LeBron did in 2011 when LeBron was healthy.
So Curry already took the warriors to the playoffs without an all star or superstar (2013 and 2014) so he really doesn’t have anything else to prove.
Also, this year the warriors are like 2-7 without Curry. If he didn’t injure his tailbone they would most likely be 5th seed right now. Curry should be this years mvp. And the fact that without Curry this warriors team Is basically the same team last year that had one of the worst records in nba history is just amazing.
We have reporters who hate on Brady. We then have Max who hates on Steph lol
I think it is blatantly obvious that Max hates Steph
Dude is a beast he may or may not steal an mvp from jokic, some may claim he stole from bron. He gonna go down as top 10 or top 20 all time. If anything this has been a nice ending to bron career, curry played the bad/good guy to lebron’s reign. It’s been awesome actually. We didn’t get to see bron vs Kobe in finals but we got a chance see curry and bron for 4 finals?! Awesome. Loved every minute of it
Max is clearly high. Hurt Steph's legacy? FOH 😂
6:15 SAS got Max here.
Max kept saying KD was the reason warriors won against Lebron after he joined them but doesnt agree that KD and westbrook could beat the same team. Meaning that Steph isn't nothing. Steph DID hurt Lebron's legacy
How'd this turn into an MJ versus Lebron legacy debate 😂
Max is obsessed with Steph omg
This was actually a really good debate from Sas and Max! Both made excellent points and arguments
Hi Good Morning Max Stephen A What Will You Do If The Golden State Beats La Lakers
In recent years, finals mvp was given to lebron or the player who could guard him well. (2014 Kawhi, 2015 Iggy) That's why Steph couldn't get it even once.
Coincidence. And also politics at the same time
great point.
Finally a good question and a good debate.
Reverse.
Also: I love how Max gives a Synopsis on the 2015 Finals, but doesn’t tell any details about the 2016 Finals, like idk; Steph injured, Iggy Injured in Game 5, Bogut out, & of course the weakest Suspension I’ve ever seen, that happened to be instigated by LBJ.
Steph got injured only in the Finals? Or the whole playoffs? Iggy was injured in Game 5 where the series was 3-1 right? Bogut was averaging what during the series? Oh and Draymond being suspended was weak because? Should we discount the nut-kicking incidents? And didnt he come back in Game 6?
@@noreenhannahgabriel9410 Steph was injured before the Finals that year, I don't know when it happened but I know it impacted him in the series against the Thunder. If it wasn't for Klay Thompson they would have missed the Finals.
You didn't see amare stoudemire getting suspended for walking on the court? Western conference finals. That was the weakest suspension, if you saw it
Right
they havent hurt each others' legacies, they have made them better
Does He Ever Think Of His Own Legacy How'd he's gonna face his grandkids 😂😂
Ngl I have no idea what Max was talking about😭
Stephen a has a point about the warriors keeping LeBron from winning more but max explains the circumstances and explains why LeBrons legacy wasn’t hugely affected by losing because of the circumstances
thank you underrated comment
steph has 3 rings against lebron...
2 of them with superteams cuz they had kd like imagine being a 73 win team and adding an mvp just to beat the 🐏 and 1 of them when Kyrie and Kevin love were injured and LeBron also came back from a 3-1 lead to a 73 win
cavs was a superteam with kyrie love lebron smith
@@ArchanaSingh-ji1gb 2016 LeBron only won because warriors were injured
@@ArchanaSingh-ji1gb cry cry cry... hahaha. last time I checked, Steph is not "the Chosen" "The prodigy" not on Sports Illustrated Front Cover. Steph never recruited by college teams, did not go straight to NBA, nor a household name when playing his first few years then Boom, 2014 happen! So yeah, cry all u want, no one is saying Steph is better than Lebron but he has his number. Its 3-1. 😆😆😆 I see 3-1 jokes coming. hahaha
Max what did Steph Curry do to you .......
SAS is leaving out the context of KD joining the Warriors. In SAS case, you can technically say Iggy a lesser player to Steph; ruined LeBron's legacy by beating him 3 times and winning finals MVP. As it maybe true without all the context it still sounds silly...
Bruh, dude not even listening. I feel bad cause he's getting arrogant. Makes me not want to watch anymore
SAS point makes sense though. Because the only reason GSW was in a position to get KD was because of Steph. The system was still tailored to Steph's game even with the addition of KD. Steph wasnt the best player but he was still the most important piece on the team. When he didn't play they didn't even look the same. Spacing was off and KD used a lot more isos. In there last season with KD they overused iso ball. That was part of the reason the clippers could take them to 7 games. KD wanted to show he was that guy and doing that made games closers than they had to be. Using Iguodola and Steph comparison doesn't work. One was and still is the focal point of an offense. While the other one was a reliable role player you could count on to make big plays and play defense.
Curry is the reason GS was a championship contender that attracted KD. If Dirk was able to beat LeBron and the loaded Heat, why couldn't LeBron beat GS ?
@@micahkiyimba8641 good point there
@@micahkiyimba8641 The difference is. Lebron chocked that series and underperformed. If Lebron played like his regular self that series, the mavs wouldve gotten swept.
Every time I hear Max say this about Curry and the 73 W season, I never understand how nobody mentions the fact that Curry was playing hurt and got knee surgery after the finals. The iconic video of Lebron slapping Curry’s shot while standing over him makes more sense when you realize he literally needed knee surgery. But 🍵 🐸
Molly hates Max so much 😂
Sometimes I wonder about Max 😂. They both hurt each other legacies, but they had a great rivalry tho and still accomplished a lot.
KD ruined lebrons legacy not steph 😂 lebron would've 3 peated if KD didn't join
@@Tech-cy9yo Not really because it started with Steph and Bron wouldn’t because even if KD didn’t go to GS, GS was gonna get rid of half of their team regardless after that finals performance and would’ve gone after other players and would’ve been motivated to get back them.
Max needs to chill man 😂😂 We know Curry messed up Brons legacy.. and Bron is even lucky, cause Warriors could have would have 3-peated and then the narrative would’ve been even more crazy
Yeah with the help of Kevin Durant.
@@bbbllsels2773 Cry more hater lmao KD is a trophy they got when they spanked the Thunder on 2016 WCF. Warriors earned KD from winning againts Thunder not given. 😂
Other way around if anything. LeBron would be the clear 🐐 if the Cavs played the Rockets or OKC
LeBum is a failure in my book
LMAO, Cavs would've gotten swept either way.
@@magodtrick3166 what no 🤣
@D23 keep hating. I wanna see you make 10 straight finals and accomplish what he has 🤡
Lebron has never been close to the goat and will never be
Everytime when I see SAS and Curry in one sentence i know SAS will say „Steph Curry is the greatest shooter god ever created“
When Max Kellerman got kicked off of First Take. 😆😆😆😆😆