Double The Moxes, Double The Fun | Vintage Cube Draft

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  • Опубликовано: 22 мар 2024
  • Two-Mox decks are always a treat, and this one turned out very nicely.
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  • @Hopkins0316
    @Hopkins0316 4 месяца назад +46

    My favorite/least favorite thing LSV does in drafting is "man I hope I get lands"
    Next pack: 2 lands he wants.
    Him: "hmmm let's take this nonland"
    lol

    • @rodrigoarcher2938
      @rodrigoarcher2938 4 месяца назад +3

      dont get me started with the ''if i draw whatever card i can def turn this around and w....ohhhh draw myself a time walk'' lmao

    • @Promatim
      @Promatim 4 месяца назад +19

      The Ignoble I get, because it taps for black and accelerates, but the Chariot pick had my eyes popping out of their sockets.

    • @r2dezki
      @r2dezki 4 месяца назад

      I swear he's trolling with these picks

  • @clintUofR08
    @clintUofR08 4 месяца назад +51

    To this day, LSV is just about to take a land. Any minute now. For real, the next land we see...

    • @Vermilio893
      @Vermilio893 4 месяца назад +3

      Incredible foresight on LSV's part to avoid taking all those duels considering that game 2

  • @mtgpackrat7945
    @mtgpackrat7945 4 месяца назад +4

    I love that 7 drop Nissa. Severely underrated.

  • @trentjones5881
    @trentjones5881 4 месяца назад +11

    Thank you Lsv for all you do! Knowing every day at noon there will be some quality mtg cube action is awesome for the folks who can’t play anymore but like having the entertainment! Keep cranking out the content it’s badass seeing your channel go for a few thousand to tens of thousands in such a short time.

  • @Jos_V
    @Jos_V 4 месяца назад +29

    I'm surprised at how low LSV is picking lands these last couple of drafts, it used to be he'd pick duals a lot higher, and his mana bases have really suffered for it. is this an artifact of team drafting, but i don't know if the lsv of a year ago would have passed trop and bayou .

    • @leebosley5984
      @leebosley5984 4 месяца назад +5

      His mana dorks helped fix and he only really went two-colors here.

    • @andymion
      @andymion 4 месяца назад +6

      I've been thinking this for a while as well. I miss the LSV that would care about "being able to cast his spells". And then the constant "I could use some lands" mid pack 3 these last few weeks, usually after passing a bunch of them. Sorry, you dug your own grave there Luis.

    • @mylesrobinson6513
      @mylesrobinson6513 4 месяца назад +4

      I think a part of the logic might be that there are more lands (including fetchable lands) than there used to be e.g. triomes. So it feels like you can get lands later, even though they aren't as good as the original duals.
      I could see that it might have gone too far the other way though and lands are not valued as highly as they should be at the moment.

    • @kkpratt
      @kkpratt 4 месяца назад +7

      It wasn't that he "went" 2-colors. He was forced to cut strong black cards because he didn't have the mana to support them.

  • @kkpratt
    @kkpratt 4 месяца назад +28

    It was really hard to watch premium duals go by in order to take our 26th and 27th playables.

  • @thomasstone3480
    @thomasstone3480 4 месяца назад +61

    one of these days i'm gonna figure out how to open these without seeing the title so i can have no idea of what's coming

    • @jaceee4154
      @jaceee4154 4 месяца назад +14

      Im waiting for the day the thumbnail is just flat out wrong lmao

    • @andrewwatts6974
      @andrewwatts6974 4 месяца назад

      Same​@@jaceee4154

    • @koalaofdoom
      @koalaofdoom 4 месяца назад +6

      One of the older German magic sites used to do that. No preview, and they'd also always have the videos be 2 hours, so you can't see how well they do/how fast it goes. I much prefer that to the thumbnails. Where's the fun in knowing exactly what to expect?

    • @mtgjrod7760
      @mtgjrod7760 4 месяца назад +8

      Every day I open RUclips around this time, close my eyes before it loads, tap where the newest video will be, swipe up to scroll past the title and comments, open my eyes, maximize the video.
      Works like 70% of the time.

    • @Sidnv
      @Sidnv 4 месяца назад +2

      @@koalaofdoom Unfortunately, the youtube algorithm is pretty unfavorable to artificially inflating video length, so that practice has gone out of favor. I liked it too.

  • @fjordojustice
    @fjordojustice 4 месяца назад +3

    I feel like match 1 against Tom counted as bullying. Tapping out for big artifacts vs oops! all disenchants.

  • @josephbilling3886
    @josephbilling3886 4 месяца назад +7

    I hope LSV puts some more respect on nissa acended animist after this draft. I feel like he sleeps on that card a lot and I think its really good

  • @danielhall9050
    @danielhall9050 4 месяца назад +13

    Skull clamp over reprive, top 50 list is in shambles rn

  • @almogdov
    @almogdov 4 месяца назад

    LSV with 15 basics in a cube. What a world

  • @jobu71x
    @jobu71x 2 месяца назад

    I love that there was a potential play of thieving skydiver a blightsteel

  • @moaf2padventures757
    @moaf2padventures757 4 месяца назад +2

    great point about decent-ish 1 toughness creatures like skydiver and rec sage becoming really great when you already have skullclamp.

  • @codetaku
    @codetaku 4 месяца назад +4

    I'm actually surprised they haven't errata'd currency converter yet, because as-worded it actually should let you put opponents' cards into your graveyard if you steal it lol. Should say "Put a card *you* exiled with Currency Converter into your graveyard." Since there shouldn't be a way to exile opponents' cards that way.
    Alternatively, they could make the card slightly more powerful to steal than what it currently is, and change the text to "Put a card exiled with Currency Converter into its owner's graveyard."

    • @JonaxII
      @JonaxII 4 месяца назад

      That's just in the longer background text. You can try to put that opponent card into your yard all you want, the game rules just won't do it and won't let you activate. Like how you can try and draw cards from your graveyard all you want because "brainstorm doesn't specify from where to draw", but the rules just won't let you. Unless you cheat, obviously.

    • @jainabraina
      @jainabraina 4 месяца назад

      Per CR, If you try to put a card you don't own in your graveyard, it goes to its owner's graveyard instead.

    • @Anusien
      @Anusien 4 месяца назад

      @@JonaxIIputting the card into the graveyard is part of the effect, not the cost. You can activate it.

  • @nobodyhere22500
    @nobodyhere22500 4 месяца назад +4

    My favorite thing to do on Saturday night is watch LSV build a deck with 23 slots in a 40 card deck dedicated to lands/early mana and then do a shot whenever he complains about flooding. 🍹

    • @bricelory9534
      @bricelory9534 4 месяца назад

      When he said he was good with effectively 18 lands, I sighed.

  • @tylercousens3467
    @tylercousens3467 4 месяца назад

    LSV drafting a badass green stompy deck is awesome! It reminds me of the good ol' cube days when he would 1st pick 'windmill slam' a sulfuric vortex or goblin guide and force mono red

  • @filiphajduk1580
    @filiphajduk1580 4 месяца назад +1

    Liking the new hair style. In one of the next video tell us about your favorite trophies in the background. Keep up the great content!

  • @geefron
    @geefron 4 месяца назад +3

    40:20 shout out to Mini-Jace

  • @roarmalf
    @roarmalf 4 месяца назад

    Really solid deck, I enjoy watching the beat down every once in a while.

  • @gragrim
    @gragrim 4 месяца назад

    I mean, LSV getting beat by gut.. what a gut-shot

  • @jordancaldwell2208
    @jordancaldwell2208 4 месяца назад

    LSV: "If I drew the othe-"
    *Draws his 2nd Mox*
    Day 513: LSV has surpassed predicting his draws and is now telepathically communicating with his deck.

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 4 месяца назад

    Now this is a mana deck! Well done!

  • @AlmostSkillfull
    @AlmostSkillfull 4 месяца назад +1

    If this isn't a craterhoof deck then what is exactly? Only ever natural order?

  • @ericfgaming
    @ericfgaming 4 месяца назад +1

    I think rule 400.3 means you can use currency converter on cards you don't own, and as a replacement effect they will go to the correct graveyard, amd tou still get the bonus.

    • @JonaxII
      @JonaxII 4 месяца назад

      That generally applies to resolving abilities, tho. From 602.2 we can see that activating an ability if you can't pay the cost simply doesn't work, and we can't pay the cost of putting an opponents' card into our graveyard, because it just can't be put there.
      A bit like that Narset/Sylvan Library interaction.

    • @Anusien
      @Anusien 4 месяца назад

      @@JonaxIIputting the card into the graveyard is not part of the cost.

  • @daa0
    @daa0 4 месяца назад

    Great vid!
    Where can I find your cube list? Is it the LSVCube list on Cubecobra?
    I see it has more than the usual 540 cards, I don't know if that is right or it is not properly updated.
    Thanks for the content!

  • @dcsmoot
    @dcsmoot 4 месяца назад +1

    Is it moxen or moxes? (semi) serious question.

  • @folkesverdrupnygren5073
    @folkesverdrupnygren5073 4 месяца назад +2

    59:15, LSV shows the restraint of a true professional 🤌

  • @georgea4124
    @georgea4124 4 месяца назад

    Any consideration for Aluren in the cube? There are a lot of interesting

  • @stefanvitale4850
    @stefanvitale4850 4 месяца назад

    Solid video

  • @Nathan-wq6uj
    @Nathan-wq6uj 4 месяца назад

    46:15 Juulz, Stellar Pup!

  • @jonesdarryn1
    @jonesdarryn1 4 месяца назад

    one thing ive noticed about ur card selection from last few months is if they dont have an extreme draw you usually win

  • @matke743
    @matke743 4 месяца назад

    Taking that Chariot over Bayou with million threats already, where is LSV and what did you do to him? xD

  • @friendofsinners5025
    @friendofsinners5025 4 месяца назад

    I mean…is it even power if it’s not Time Walk? Jk, will watch after work, gl LSV.

  • @justineells7518
    @justineells7518 4 месяца назад +2

    "I really want a few more lands"...passes every land. Lol 🤦‍♂️

  • @andrewjames4786
    @andrewjames4786 4 месяца назад

    Passing Demonic Tutor is crazy

  • @Anusien
    @Anusien 4 месяца назад

    He’s just playing around Winds of Abandon.

  • @michaelhuston9694
    @michaelhuston9694 4 месяца назад

    Woot

  • @newscoulomb3705
    @newscoulomb3705 4 месяца назад

    No one ever respects Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy without Basalt Monolith, even when running 7 non-land mana producers. I think I'd run it over Cobra in this deck.

  • @todcharlie1168
    @todcharlie1168 4 месяца назад +1

    Could easily wheel the green cards and taken the lands in pack 3

  • @andrewstephan7700
    @andrewstephan7700 3 месяца назад

    "man i really need some lands" proceeds to take all spells... 🤦

  • @swampybwoy
    @swampybwoy 4 месяца назад

    5:22 here here here in the

  • @user-mf4sc8im8y
    @user-mf4sc8im8y 4 месяца назад

    Lsv hating rock colors hurts my soul lol

  • @Moxadonis
    @Moxadonis 4 месяца назад

    Where's Opposition in the cube?

  • @corysicard5929
    @corysicard5929 Месяц назад

    badlands over EWit when you have skullclamp!?!??!

  • @mattwilliamsonguitar
    @mattwilliamsonguitar 4 месяца назад +4

    Not playing Craterhoof with that much mana coming from creatures makes me sad

    • @Kendal411
      @Kendal411 4 месяца назад +1

      If hoof can't even make it in a deck like this, then maybe it's time to put the old guy out to pasture.

    • @danielhall9050
      @danielhall9050 4 месяца назад

      He's ok with natural order, the only other good targets are Atraxa and maybe woodfal primus @@Kendal411

    • @Pedun42
      @Pedun42 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Kendal411 It might have just been a blind spot for LSV, earmarking the card for natural order only in his brain or something

    • @Anusien
      @Anusien 4 месяца назад

      He said that he didn’t think he made enough mana to cast it.

    • @mattwilliamsonguitar
      @mattwilliamsonguitar 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@Anusien I guess I just disagree with that logic. He had four 1cmc mana dorks, a lotus cobra, Nissa, and double mox. Hoof isn't like 10+ mana, it's 8. It's weird that Atraxa is considered castable at 7 with 4 colored pips but Craterhoof isn't at 8 and mono color (yes triple green is rough but not for this deck).

  • @666Metalbassist
    @666Metalbassist 4 месяца назад +1

    First

  • @Mr.BigNate
    @Mr.BigNate 4 месяца назад +1

    Second

  • @the1bmc1
    @the1bmc1 4 месяца назад

    It’s been a while since we’ve seen Sandy dog in a pod. Is he ok?

  • @turbobrew
    @turbobrew 4 месяца назад +1

    Chariot over dual land 🤡

  • @subtleknife1
    @subtleknife1 4 месяца назад

    I won a local RCQ today with 27 lands esper legends and it kinda felt like I was cheating. When >10 of your lands are also relevant spells (often costing 1-2 mana) it feels like you’ve gamed the system a bit.

  • @GPEGEMGTM3
    @GPEGEMGTM3 4 месяца назад

    Some of lsv’s decks are just asking to have flooded draws…

  • @dougisacat
    @dougisacat 4 месяца назад

    I was screaming at my phone, take the darkslick take the dark slick, and as much as I want noble like, u sea is better there imo

    • @dougisacat
      @dougisacat 4 месяца назад

      Omg he just passed the bayou…. I CANT

  • @cesarramon4636
    @cesarramon4636 4 месяца назад

    .

  • @subtol
    @subtol 4 месяца назад

    painful draft, this deck could have been so much better with some land picks :[

  • @Zii_Vii
    @Zii_Vii 4 месяца назад

    Man I hear what you've been saying on the land grant topic for a while now, but the truth is the card is the mid af and in most cases, a useless card, let alone something you would actively pick. I hear you, I really do. The last 12 times you said it. But it just doesn't do anything. At best it's a land drop and at worst it's completely unplayable.

    • @thomasstone3480
      @thomasstone3480 4 месяца назад

      yeah what larger utility could there be from a free spell that fixes your colors and is a land drop you can pitch to force of vigor or endurance

    • @phelandiller4066
      @phelandiller4066 4 месяца назад

      ​@@thomasstone3480Also free spell for storm fringe upsidd

    • @Zii_Vii
      @Zii_Vii 4 месяца назад

      @@thomasstone3480 I hear you, just like I heard lsv. Those scenarios DO exist, but you're looking at it in a vacuum instead of in the vintage cube. Besides, it rarely does any of the shit your describing. You cut this for Llanowar elves 99% of the time. Somehow vault+key isn't good enough, but land grant+endurance is? Cmon now.

    • @thomasstone3480
      @thomasstone3480 4 месяца назад

      it's not competing for a slot with elves it's competing with a basic

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  4 месяца назад +1

      I don’t understand - compare this to basic forest and it’s usually not close (though does depend on the deck)

  • @thegrindfather
    @thegrindfather 4 месяца назад

    only reason to NOT pick DT is...................there are none, either you use it or u hate pick it always, not angry, just disappointed

  • @briank6795
    @briank6795 4 месяца назад

    Too fast

  • @StarksCards
    @StarksCards 4 месяца назад +1

    LSV' o Clock ⏰️ ✨️

  • @fatdogwiggle
    @fatdogwiggle 4 месяца назад

    watching you pass those lands is painful