I appreciate this video for its message of producing results that are good enough. As a beginner I'm confident I can do this and that makes me feel much better about where I am on the journey.
An excellent watch, as I'm putting together several SM Kill Teams. Great tips for keeping down the amount of painting work, compared to going all-out on a display piece. Thanks, Vince!
Great Video! Truly the best way I have seen to use contrast! But that is what I expect from the man who has over 1000 videos and truly helps us all to be more realistic in this obsessive hobby. Your the best! Thanks!!
that's funny since I decided to speed jump to my "Imperium" -every month a lot of Space Marine and stuff like that- collection started ! fun and priceless as usual, THX you roxx !
Whaaaat... Did I hear Deecal instead of Dehkul? Twice!? It makes me smile every time the Dehkul pronunciation ends up in a video. Not judging, just in morning ❤️❤️ RIP Dehkul
@@billdefranza4927 he purposely mispronounces things to trigger people and he enjoys it. And it gets people to post things like this comment which increases engagement for the video algorithm. I'm being 100% serious here.
@@billdefranza4927 I'm sure it's mostly to ruffle feathers, though if you want to be pedantic (I do), it is closer to the french root word décalcomanie or décalquer. So if you you skip the T on merlot, you can say dehkul at your leisure.
@VinceVenturella, you just came for my whole legion. I never felt so attacked by some one I admire so much, hurt my feelings big time. Thanks for the video
Love the Imperial Fist!! I like these different time frame videos. My personal sweet spot is somewhere between 2-4 hours. Would love to see more of your takes on doing a model in that time.
Raven Guard can still be decently fun to paint I think. I shift mine more into the blue like you suggest. The odd white helmet or arm helps too, and some heavy weathering makes it interesting enough. The latter are not necessarily viable for speedpainting though, admittedly. But then, I usually spend way too much time on my armies anyway.
“Going full Richard Grey on this one”, got me laughing. Really nice job in a short amount of time. I’d love to see a way to tackle 2-3 colour minis in a speedpaint, like e.g. sororitas. I guess it’s all in picking the right under shade (under highlight?) colour and then just colouring in.
Make up brushes FTW! Seriously, using Value Sketching to achieve under painted weathering with inks/contrast paints is an awesome way to get decent tabletop ready models onto the battlefield quickly! Always great content Vince.
Very very cool! I'd really love to see this same video basically, but WITH an airbrush instead. Love to see what the zenithal brings, and smooth panels more.
Great vi6as always, though I dont play the games I do love a space marine and you've helped me in looking at others. I've done ultra but want to do the wolfs and indomitous marines. I've put my flat dry brushes aside for the jess the heck out of and bought a set of maje up brushes thanks to you and ninjon.
In a future video, I suggest you compare a single application of raw contrast to your multiple thin application technique. It would be cool to see the visual improvement.
I use a similar approach when I need to speed paint. Although I tend tonuse contrast paints more as glazes. I wick the extra moisture off on a paper towel, and it leaves a wonderful smooth transparent look.
Oh my God I'm so glad I watched this video because well one it's not the dollar stores Dollar general brand and I know because just yesterday I bought some from there and since the drive home up until now I'm worried and wondered if they would be sufficient and was about to chill out 20 bucks for just a couple of name brand "makeup brushes"
The video's great, as usually, but I wanted to comment in particular that your ordering of the legions is pretty much spot on. In particular I would definitely put the Blood Angels, Imperial Fists and White Scars as the top three (not sure I could order them).
I've been using your display Imperial Fist tutorial to paint my IF army and love the results but I have been considering switching from Iyanden Yellow to the new Imperial Fist yellow to pump up the brightness. Seeing these results and hearing your enthusiasm with the new color, I think I need to give it a try.
Very nice and funny video. I'd like to see the traitor legions next. And then an airbrush version for all of them 😉 Btw, there is no boring legion, because they are all Alpha Legion in disguise😁
Watched!❤ Remember the time Vince invented double slapchop? Lol It seems that every time a new “technique” becomes popular, I find something very similar in one of your old videos 😂
I really liked the White Scar marine. Personally, I don't get what people see in the banana marines, but to each his own. The rough stippling definitely provides a much different look than the standard, crisp, and very clean marines we see on the box art. Thanks for the video.
You opened up with most boring to least. I was like great ultramarine joke? Like the Chad you are you start with the all black and flavorless legions. Super agree!
Richard grey has been doing a bunch of recipes for imperial fist with the new contrast paints, its some fun ways of doing it there to, and this was great with them all. I could not do a model in 20min and be happy with it , but still fun to see
Oh, also, I would have love to have heard why you chose each undercolor, particularly how it would relate to the final color. I noticed you used brown, ivory, cold blue, etc. I guess you did to some degree, like the two blacks, making one cold and one warm, but I was fascinated in the final run about some of the choices (like brown.)
I'd love to see a vid where you speed paint more imperial fists in different ways and kind of compare them. So different base coats etc. I know if you use a pepto bismal pink as a base then white as your top down highlight you get this really nice orange. I've seen goobertown post about that originally but I was letting my 3 year old paint a few figs the other day and she did that on accident and it was just one of the nicest oranges I've seen and it made me really want to find more ways to apply that
First time I can say "I painted a miniature better than Vince did". Ok second time, first one was when you showed your painting history and your old minis :D.
I heard "the most boring loyalist space marine legion..." and my El Ranchero tortilla chip stuck unchewed out of my mouth as I frowned and knew my Raven Guard were coming first. LUL To be fair, I'm painting my as a successor SIMPLY because I want to put color on them.
Love seeing tips and tricks related to Contrast paints! Curious how you feel about the drybrushing you showcased here vs. airbrush zenithal highlighting? Is one "better" than the other when it comes to speed-painting? I tend to avoid drybrushing because it feels more monotonous to me for some reason, but I can't help but look at your results and be impressed with how "bright" things can look compared to a standard airbrush zenithal. Thanks again.
You could have used a pink under shade, then ivory highlight to give the Imperial Fist an orange shading after the yellow contrast was added. That usually comes out pretty well.
Question. This is how I paint a speed painted grim dark. But how can I go back and improve my army, a white and green 40k death guard? Also do people pay for that style in commissions? People at the FLGS like my paint job and I could use a little money.
If people are willing to pay, then you're good. Most of the time, it's just a matter of people wanting to get some paint on the models. :) - As to improvement, you certainly can, you can always go back and add more shading and highlighting.
I don't care what anyone else says, your list is pretty good. and the only good black armored space marine is deathwatch. fight me, heretics. definitely need to play more with mixing medium into speed paints, and man oh man are those yellows pretty. ^_^
always appreciate your videos. Can't say Ill be embracing these techniques though. The result isn't good enough IMO for tabletop. That Ultramarine and the Iron Hands were probably the exception. I'd say an hour per model is the minimum, probably 3 hours for me because I paint so slowly. One thing I should take away from this video is actually trying to paint fast. See what I can get done in an hour if I really push.
ik u just did a SM speed paint but could you do a guide for super trim heavy models? I play CSM and tsons and its a huge pain painting all that trim even for run of the mill front line troops. Im wondering if you know any tips or tricks that could help out with "speed"" painting them
Your top 3 is my top 3! Not so familiar with the lore, so basing that solely on the color scheme's. Have been enjoying painting space marines just to practice yellow red and white. Experimenting with different undershades and having a lot of fun.
Interesting stuff Vince. Rather than drybrush why don't you just do a rattle can zenithal (or airbrush). Would be a lot quick that the drybrush. Also for some legions, like Ultramarines. Macragge Blue rattle can does 80% of the work then it's just black, gold and silver with red lens and you're done!!
The point here was to keep it as base simple as possible and lower all barriers of entry. Assume they have a black rattle can and brush. The issue with something like a rattle can blue (and I’ve talked about single color priming before) is you don’t get the built in contrast you get with this method (or an airbrush or similar) :)
Great work as usual. As a future video idea, what about hobby cheating video about painting chrome figures?. Such as Marvel Silver Surfer or Hajime Sorayama's robot artwork. Personally I can not find much information about the topic than "use a chrome paint.".
Not related to this video, sorry, but would love to see a video in the future with a guide to basing like what you did for your Leagues if Votann Champion that just got featured on WarCom! Rusty scrap piles is exactly what I want to do for my next army (Genestealer Cults).
Hey Vince, do you think you could do a guide for efficiently painting minis with a halved/quartered color scheme? I'm very comfortable using the airbrush for army painting but my Marines Errant take forever trying to block in the two colors carefully by hand instead
Agree that the RG and IH are boring. The only cool black marines have crosses on their shoulders! The coolest Chapter from the coolest Legion But as always, a great job. First thing i thought when I heard you say 20 min per marine was "airbrush". A great no airbrush tutorial, and they do look good, especially for the time involved.
Thank you for this! I have been trying to find a quicker method for black FOREVER....Would you recommend this method with an airbrush instead of dry brushing for the first layer (the drybrush after priming)?
Come on Vince my 2 armies 30 an 40k of Iron Hands are legit when u add in the cybernetics servo arms an so on there is alot u can do with black u taught me alot of it. 😆 Just had to say
Great video - for thinning the contrast with contrast medium, is the reason for that to make the contrast effect a bit more subtle, but still give good coverage? So you don't get as extreme areas of shade that may need to be brightened up as much? Edit: nvm, was explained later on, ty!
Hey Vince, interesting video. have you thought about next steps if you wanted to use this speed paint as a starting point to then improve at a later date? what would they be? Can the roughness of the look be improved upon? would it be easier to just re-paint it from scratch? love all your HC videos by the way 👍
In fairness -- My favorite aspect of the Horus Heresy game is that the Imperial Fists are put back into the spotlight as the "Poster Boys," rather than all the boring Ultras of WH40k. (Dons flame-proof suit)
Hey Vince, curious, after applying the first layers of stippling, would I achieve the same outcome by applying the contrast colors with an airbrush with two coats? Or do you get more of the 'worn' and 'grim' appearance on the model with a regular brush? Thanks for making me smile today, have a good one!
@Vince Venturella Have you used the vallejo xpress medium? If so how does it compare to citadel? Can't find any info anywhere and I trust you the most
How would you rate the other yellows in the range? I picked up some Ironjawz and have been satisfied with it, but wonder how it compares to Imp Fist and Bad Moon.
Loved the video as ever, plenty of ideas to take away from this; but somehow the contrast colours didn't give the hue I wanted to see - is it just me or did the Blood Angel look too magenta and the Imperial Fist look too cold a yellow instead of a warmer more orangey yellow. Maybe undercoating in deep orange/brown mixture highlight to pale orange and then ivory might have warmed both up?
You mentioned that Imperial Fist would be one of the top 4-5 new paints from the contrast (+Shade?) range. So, what WOULD be your picks? (I just picked up an assortment, let's see how I did. Also, IF Yellow was the first one I picked.)
So my favorite new contrasts, imperial fist yellow, Baal Red, Magma orange, Leviathan Purple, striking scorpion green, Garaghaks sewer and ratling grime.
@@VinceVenturella I get a B+ in this game that doesnt mean anything. But I picked IF Yellow, Baal Red, Magma Orange, Garaghaks Sewer, Ratling grime, Doomfire Magenta and Karandras Green.
Really enjoyed this one, as I have almost a 2nd house worth of Salamanders still in grey. I was thinking of doing the 2nd army, or maybe some of the “older elements” like their tanks and leviathan dreads in old school Salamanders mottled yellow and black. Do you think the imperial fist method shown here and then free handing the black over top would work, or is there another idea that might work better?
Great job. Glad to see the salamanders made it to the cool tier of marines ^^ Quick question: do you think that this general approach (in particular drybrushing highlight then using contrast paint) can be a valuable basis for display models if applied more carefully, or is it really just a speed painting technique not worth using if we plan to spend several hours on a model ?
I’ve mentioned it a few other places, but new red, orange, all the yellows, striking scorpion green, the magenta and leviathan purple, garaghaks sewer and ratling grime
Hey Vince: I've been loving using Makeup brushes for dry brushing and stippling recently, but I've found that it's really really difficult to clean the brushes afterwards. They have SO MANY BRISTLES that color keeps staying deep in the brush long after I think it's clean. Do you have any advice?
Hi Vince,do you heard about the Pollonais painting studio " Den of Imagination",so what do you think about it and why not to do the same kind of company painting minis in the USA or maybe it still exist... Is it a good opportunaty for a pro painter like you to collaborate with such studios,please let me know,thanks,cheers from France!
I have come to realise I just don't like Contrast paints even for speed painting jobs. The tiding is an issue but even without that things feel...washed out. Base+Shade+Drybrush highlight, then details I think gives a much better overall result and takes only a tiny bit longer and...if you use a suitably coloured primer (thank you Montana Gold!) it might even be faster overall.
"AT AT AT AT AT" -The Martians from "Mars Attacks", but also me because Raven Guard are the best. Would you recommend the new contrast paints for creating chromatic blacks (HINT HINT for a reupload + apology /s)? Edit: Hashtag team white Aquila Partial credit for only doing one shoulder pad in company colors...but the wrong side
Teeerribly disappointed, that you didn't paint the most faithful, most interesting and most trustworthy of the Loyalist Marines, the very dependable Alpha Legion! 🙃
Raven Guard player here and I can confirm we have a very boring paint scheme. It is so boring that it burnt my desire to paint for a while. I just got back into it with my orks for 40k and Ironjawz for sigmar.
Hey Vince. Thanks for the video. I’m trying to do an imperial fist army but I’m having trouble sourcing transfers for them. GW sells them for Horus heresy but not for 40K. Is there a trick to this or has everyone just been free handing their chapter symbols?
This was pretty nice. i'm always looking for anything to speed up painting just to get it over with faster. I'm guessing this might not work super great if you are trying for a half and half scheme. my inner masochist has been coming up and bugging me to try that on my own space marines when they get updated. maybe if one half is a super boring color like black. While i can't argue on Raven guard having a boring scheme I will disagree on most boring lore.
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I appreciate this video for its message of producing results that are good enough. As a beginner I'm confident I can do this and that makes me feel much better about where I am on the journey.
An excellent watch, as I'm putting together several SM Kill Teams. Great tips for keeping down the amount of painting work, compared to going all-out on a display piece. Thanks, Vince!
Great Video! Truly the best way I have seen to use contrast! But that is what I expect from the man who has over 1000 videos and truly helps us all to be more realistic in this obsessive hobby. Your the best! Thanks!!
that's funny since I decided to speed jump to my "Imperium" -every month a lot of Space Marine and stuff like that- collection started ! fun and priceless as usual, THX you roxx !
Whaaaat... Did I hear Deecal instead of Dehkul? Twice!? It makes me smile every time the Dehkul pronunciation ends up in a video. Not judging, just in morning ❤️❤️ RIP Dehkul
Yeah, where did 'dehkul' come from?
@@billdefranza4927 he purposely mispronounces things to trigger people and he enjoys it. And it gets people to post things like this comment which increases engagement for the video algorithm. I'm being 100% serious here.
@@billdefranza4927 I'm sure it's mostly to ruffle feathers, though if you want to be pedantic (I do), it is closer to the french root word décalcomanie or décalquer. So if you you skip the T on merlot, you can say dehkul at your leisure.
@VinceVenturella, you just came for my whole legion. I never felt so attacked by some one I admire so much, hurt my feelings big time. Thanks for the video
i would love to see this video with air brushes =D 1st video of yours i have seen really liked it !
That was fun to watch. I hope you do the traitor legions next!
Love the Imperial Fist!! I like these different time frame videos. My personal sweet spot is somewhere between 2-4 hours. Would love to see more of your takes on doing a model in that time.
This was quite an undertaking! Very cool to see how you approached each color scheme. Thanks for the awesome content, Vince!
Great video for getting minis on the table!
Raven Guard can still be decently fun to paint I think. I shift mine more into the blue like you suggest.
The odd white helmet or arm helps too, and some heavy weathering makes it interesting enough.
The latter are not necessarily viable for speedpainting though, admittedly. But then, I usually spend way too much time on my armies anyway.
I am very impressed with how the reds and yellows came out. Like legit looked good not just speed painted.
I would pay eleventy billion JonBucks to see this same video using Gitz and Spiders. I love your "just the facts, bro" teaching style. Thanks Vince!
“Going full Richard Grey on this one”, got me laughing. Really nice job in a short amount of time. I’d love to see a way to tackle 2-3 colour minis in a speedpaint, like e.g. sororitas. I guess it’s all in picking the right under shade (under highlight?) colour and then just colouring in.
Make up brushes FTW! Seriously, using Value Sketching to achieve under painted weathering with inks/contrast paints is an awesome way to get decent tabletop ready models onto the battlefield quickly! Always great content Vince.
Thanks Vince!
Very very cool! I'd really love to see this same video basically, but WITH an airbrush instead. Love to see what the zenithal brings, and smooth panels more.
Thanks for all the videos 👍
This was such an amazing video. And one I totally can understand how to use. Thank you! Can't wait to implement it.myself!
Black is “boredom in paint form” - a quote for the ages.
Its days like this that i don't envy your job.
Thanks for the video and the game, totally enjoying your game.
Great vi6as always, though I dont play the games I do love a space marine and you've helped me in looking at others. I've done ultra but want to do the wolfs and indomitous marines. I've put my flat dry brushes aside for the jess the heck out of and bought a set of maje up brushes thanks to you and ninjon.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
You are the goat, sir!
Great video as always!
In a future video, I suggest you compare a single application of raw contrast to your multiple thin application technique. It would be cool to see the visual improvement.
26:27 was about to comment similar to going "full Richard Grey" 😄
I use a similar approach when I need to speed paint. Although I tend tonuse contrast paints more as glazes. I wick the extra moisture off on a paper towel, and it leaves a wonderful smooth transparent look.
This was just an excuse to do a Space Marine tier-list video, hm? ;)
I just bought a box of intercessors a few weeks ago to do something like this myself, albeit with oils. Great video :)
nice, I keep thinking about trying that, but have too many other projects to try. good luck!
This heretic wants to see some chaos marines! Love the video vince
Oh my God I'm so glad I watched this video because well one it's not the dollar stores Dollar general brand and I know because just yesterday I bought some from there and since the drive home up until now I'm worried and wondered if they would be sufficient and was about to chill out 20 bucks for just a couple of name brand "makeup brushes"
People underestimate the potency of a colour wash over black, super fast and simple and reads even from a distance.
Shadow base coat for the Imperials fists could be done as a light-medium pinkish orange.
Absolutely.
The video's great, as usually, but I wanted to comment in particular that your ordering of the legions is pretty much spot on. In particular I would definitely put the Blood Angels, Imperial Fists and White Scars as the top three (not sure I could order them).
Love the cobra Kai sticker.😆👌👍🏽
No mercy. :)
I've been using your display Imperial Fist tutorial to paint my IF army and love the results but I have been considering switching from Iyanden Yellow to the new Imperial Fist yellow to pump up the brightness. Seeing these results and hearing your enthusiasm with the new color, I think I need to give it a try.
Very nice and funny video. I'd like to see the traitor legions next. And then an airbrush version for all of them 😉
Btw, there is no boring legion, because they are all Alpha Legion in disguise😁
Watched!❤
Remember the time Vince invented double slapchop? Lol
It seems that every time a new “technique” becomes popular, I find something very similar in one of your old videos 😂
It's like I saw the future. 😂
Really awesome video!! BUT: there is no better and cooler chapter than SALAMANDERS!!! Vulkan LIVES!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
😉😜😎
I really liked the White Scar marine. Personally, I don't get what people see in the banana marines, but to each his own. The rough stippling definitely provides a much different look than the standard, crisp, and very clean marines we see on the box art. Thanks for the video.
You opened up with most boring to least. I was like great ultramarine joke? Like the Chad you are you start with the all black and flavorless legions. Super agree!
8:43 thats because you are correct
Richard grey has been doing a bunch of recipes for imperial fist with the new contrast paints, its some fun ways of doing it there to, and this was great with them all. I could not do a model in 20min and be happy with it , but still fun to see
Oh, also, I would have love to have heard why you chose each undercolor, particularly how it would relate to the final color. I noticed you used brown, ivory, cold blue, etc. I guess you did to some degree, like the two blacks, making one cold and one warm, but I was fascinated in the final run about some of the choices (like brown.)
Basically laying down some neutral but appropriate tones that would give a nice temperature to thr color above, feels like a whole video for sure.
Those minis are definitely painted
Better than not painted. ;)
I'd love to see a vid where you speed paint more imperial fists in different ways and kind of compare them. So different base coats etc. I know if you use a pepto bismal pink as a base then white as your top down highlight you get this really nice orange.
I've seen goobertown post about that originally but I was letting my 3 year old paint a few figs the other day and she did that on accident and it was just one of the nicest oranges I've seen and it made me really want to find more ways to apply that
First time I can say "I painted a miniature better than Vince did". Ok second time, first one was when you showed your painting history and your old minis :D.
Unlikely. 😂 🤣
Probably your last! 😂
Seems strange not seeing red gun casings for the Dark Angels. Great tips throughout though.
I heard "the most boring loyalist space marine legion..." and my El Ranchero tortilla chip stuck unchewed out of my mouth as I frowned and knew my Raven Guard were coming first. LUL To be fair, I'm painting my as a successor SIMPLY because I want to put color on them.
Vince my man! Not all heroes wear capes huh? Well this one wears an apron..
Love seeing tips and tricks related to Contrast paints! Curious how you feel about the drybrushing you showcased here vs. airbrush zenithal highlighting? Is one "better" than the other when it comes to speed-painting? I tend to avoid drybrushing because it feels more monotonous to me for some reason, but I can't help but look at your results and be impressed with how "bright" things can look compared to a standard airbrush zenithal. Thanks again.
The drybrush gets you higher opacity faster, but has less softness to the transition.
Cool video
Ah I see - Vince left Alpha Legion out because he’s already done a painting guide for them
Exactly!
Great Video!
Now do all 40k Chapters... :P
You could have used a pink under shade, then ivory highlight to give the Imperial Fist an orange shading after the yellow contrast was added. That usually comes out pretty well.
Honestly I forget that Raven Guard even exist sometimes. No argument from me.
Question. This is how I paint a speed painted grim dark. But how can I go back and improve my army, a white and green 40k death guard? Also do people pay for that style in commissions? People at the FLGS like my paint job and I could use a little money.
If people are willing to pay, then you're good. Most of the time, it's just a matter of people wanting to get some paint on the models. :) - As to improvement, you certainly can, you can always go back and add more shading and highlighting.
I don't care what anyone else says, your list is pretty good. and the only good black armored space marine is deathwatch. fight me, heretics.
definitely need to play more with mixing medium into speed paints, and man oh man are those yellows pretty. ^_^
always appreciate your videos. Can't say Ill be embracing these techniques though. The result isn't good enough IMO for tabletop. That Ultramarine and the Iron Hands were probably the exception.
I'd say an hour per model is the minimum, probably 3 hours for me because I paint so slowly.
One thing I should take away from this video is actually trying to paint fast. See what I can get done in an hour if I really push.
ik u just did a SM speed paint but could you do a guide for super trim heavy models? I play CSM and tsons and its a huge pain painting all that trim even for run of the mill front line troops. Im wondering if you know any tips or tricks that could help out with "speed"" painting them
I have some bad news for you…I’ll see what I can do, but honestly, there just isn’t many cheats around it. That trim always takes forever.
Your top 3 is my top 3! Not so familiar with the lore, so basing that solely on the color scheme's. Have been enjoying painting space marines just to practice yellow red and white. Experimenting with different undershades and having a lot of fun.
Interesting stuff Vince. Rather than drybrush why don't you just do a rattle can zenithal (or airbrush). Would be a lot quick that the drybrush. Also for some legions, like Ultramarines. Macragge Blue rattle can does 80% of the work then it's just black, gold and silver with red lens and you're done!!
The point here was to keep it as base simple as possible and lower all barriers of entry. Assume they have a black rattle can and brush. The issue with something like a rattle can blue (and I’ve talked about single color priming before) is you don’t get the built in contrast you get with this method (or an airbrush or similar) :)
Great work as usual. As a future video idea, what about hobby cheating video about painting chrome figures?. Such as Marvel Silver Surfer or Hajime Sorayama's robot artwork. Personally I can not find much information about the topic than "use a chrome paint.".
That’s sky earth NMM, it’s complicated to say the least, but worth a video. :)
Not related to this video, sorry, but would love to see a video in the future with a guide to basing like what you did for your Leagues if Votann Champion that just got featured on WarCom! Rusty scrap piles is exactly what I want to do for my next army (Genestealer Cults).
You won't have to wait too long on this...
Hey Vince, do you think you could do a guide for efficiently painting minis with a halved/quartered color scheme? I'm very comfortable using the airbrush for army painting but my Marines Errant take forever trying to block in the two colors carefully by hand instead
My simple answer is don’t do that. ;) - that being said, I’ll see what I can do. :)
@@VinceVenturella as always you are wise in spades haha! If you do end up with any tips to share I will be eager to hear them :)
Agree that the RG and IH are boring. The only cool black marines have crosses on their shoulders! The coolest Chapter from the coolest Legion
But as always, a great job. First thing i thought when I heard you say 20 min per marine was "airbrush". A great no airbrush tutorial, and they do look good, especially for the time involved.
Thank you for this! I have been trying to find a quicker method for black FOREVER....Would you recommend this method with an airbrush instead of dry brushing for the first layer (the drybrush after priming)?
Yep, that’s the faster way, I wanted to keep it absolutely simple here. :)
Come on Vince my 2 armies 30 an 40k of Iron Hands are legit when u add in the cybernetics servo arms an so on there is alot u can do with black u taught me alot of it.
😆 Just had to say
Great video - for thinning the contrast with contrast medium, is the reason for that to make the contrast effect a bit more subtle, but still give good coverage? So you don't get as extreme areas of shade that may need to be brightened up as much?
Edit: nvm, was explained later on, ty!
Hey Vince, interesting video.
have you thought about next steps if you wanted to use this speed paint as a starting point to then improve at a later date? what would they be? Can the roughness of the look be improved upon? would it be easier to just re-paint it from scratch?
love all your HC videos by the way 👍
Oh sure, you could just add some more highlights, glaze shadows, basically, you could go wherever you want from here
How dothe white edges survive the black? Is it the contrast - ness,or just avoiding the edges?
Contrast-ness
Thanks for the video. How would you describe the difference between Black Templar and Black Legion?
The original has a little brown and isn't quite black, the new is more solid neutral black.
@@VinceVenturella Thanks!
In fairness -- My favorite aspect of the Horus Heresy game is that the Imperial Fists are put back into the spotlight as the "Poster Boys," rather than all the boring Ultras of WH40k.
(Dons flame-proof suit)
I'm gonna be honest, the Ultramarines would be a lot less hated if their armor was a little darker blue. They just hurt to look at sometimes.
@@YOOT_JJ they would just be Crimson Fists then
Hey Vince, curious, after applying the first layers of stippling, would I achieve the same outcome by applying the contrast colors with an airbrush with two coats? Or do you get more of the 'worn' and 'grim' appearance on the model with a regular brush?
Thanks for making me smile today, have a good one!
Nope, the airbrush would be better, but I wanted to keep this simple.
@Vince Venturella Have you used the vallejo xpress medium? If so how does it compare to citadel? Can't find any info anywhere and I trust you the most
I haven't tried it, I will have to give it a try and report back.
@@VinceVenturella youre the best!
How would you rate the other yellows in the range? I picked up some Ironjawz and have been satisfied with it, but wonder how it compares to Imp Fist and Bad Moon.
Honestly, I love all three. IF is my fav, but they are all wonderful
Loved the video as ever, plenty of ideas to take away from this; but somehow the contrast colours didn't give the hue I wanted to see - is it just me or did the Blood Angel look too magenta and the Imperial Fist look too cold a yellow instead of a warmer more orangey yellow. Maybe undercoating in deep orange/brown mixture highlight to pale orange and then ivory might have warmed both up?
Yes, those exact tones can be pretty easily varied to taste by shifting the undershade.
Is the Vallejo Steel color you use an airbrush color? It looks really good so i was trying to find it and all i can see is the airbrush paint.
Yes, it says airbrush but it works for either. I have several videos of it in action on the channel including a review of all steel paints.
Cool video although was the 20 mins including drying time or if not how did you speed it up? I find it can take a while
Hair dryer to speed it up. :)
3:1 contrast:what for contrast thinning?
Contrast medium.
Thanks Vince! Does the two coat thinned down contrast paint work on vehicles to a spur the patchiness?
It can make it better, but it will still be patchy, on those large flat spaces, there won’t be too much to completely remove it.
@@VinceVenturella Just thinking about painting a whole army with this method. Thanks!
You mentioned that Imperial Fist would be one of the top 4-5 new paints from the contrast (+Shade?) range. So, what WOULD be your picks? (I just picked up an assortment, let's see how I did. Also, IF Yellow was the first one I picked.)
So my favorite new contrasts, imperial fist yellow, Baal Red, Magma orange, Leviathan Purple, striking scorpion green, Garaghaks sewer and ratling grime.
@@VinceVenturella I get a B+ in this game that doesnt mean anything. But I picked IF Yellow, Baal Red, Magma Orange, Garaghaks Sewer, Ratling grime, Doomfire Magenta and Karandras Green.
Really enjoyed this one, as I have almost a 2nd house worth of Salamanders still in grey. I was thinking of doing the 2nd army, or maybe some of the “older elements” like their tanks and leviathan dreads in old school Salamanders mottled yellow and black. Do you think the imperial fist method shown here and then free handing the black over top would work, or is there another idea that might work better?
I think that would work fine, not sure there would be a quicker way for a scheme like that
Great job. Glad to see the salamanders made it to the cool tier of marines ^^
Quick question: do you think that this general approach (in particular drybrushing highlight then using contrast paint) can be a valuable basis for display models if applied more carefully, or is it really just a speed painting technique not worth using if we plan to spend several hours on a model ?
It could be a base to get things toned, but you’d need a fair amount of work on top of it.
31:00 can you name the rest of your favorites of the new contrast colors?
I’ve mentioned it a few other places, but new red, orange, all the yellows, striking scorpion green, the magenta and leviathan purple, garaghaks sewer and ratling grime
Hey Vince: I've been loving using Makeup brushes for dry brushing and stippling recently, but I've found that it's really really difficult to clean the brushes afterwards. They have SO MANY BRISTLES that color keeps staying deep in the brush long after I think it's clean. Do you have any advice?
Winsor and Newton brush restorer will get the gunk out. Then just clean it with soap.
@@VinceVenturella perfect, thank you!
Hi Vince,do you heard about the Pollonais painting studio " Den of Imagination",so what do you think about it and why not to do the same kind of company painting minis in the USA or maybe it still exist...
Is it a good opportunaty for a pro painter like you to collaborate with such studios,please let me know,thanks,cheers from France!
I’m familiar, they do some cool stuff
I have come to realise I just don't like Contrast paints even for speed painting jobs. The tiding is an issue but even without that things feel...washed out. Base+Shade+Drybrush highlight, then details I think gives a much better overall result and takes only a tiny bit longer and...if you use a suitably coloured primer (thank you Montana Gold!) it might even be faster overall.
No issue, no workflow is for everyone. :)
"AT AT AT AT AT" -The Martians from "Mars Attacks", but also me because Raven Guard are the best. Would you recommend the new contrast paints for creating chromatic blacks (HINT HINT for a reupload + apology /s)?
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Hashtag team white Aquila
Partial credit for only doing one shoulder pad in company colors...but the wrong side
Something like the imperial fist yellow and leviathan purple plus maybe a touch of the Ork flesh could produce a nice color.
21:46 *...than a light color next to a light color
Do you use some kind of dampening pad before you put paint on drybrush?
Nope, just a paper towel.
Teeerribly disappointed, that you didn't paint the most faithful, most interesting and most trustworthy of the Loyalist Marines, the very dependable Alpha Legion! 🙃
I did a whole video dedicated to them. They, as the most loyal, deserved their own stuff. ;)
Raven Guard player here and I can confirm we have a very boring paint scheme. It is so boring that it burnt my desire to paint for a while. I just got back into it with my orks for 40k and Ironjawz for sigmar.
Hey Vince. Thanks for the video. I’m trying to do an imperial fist army but I’m having trouble sourcing transfers for them. GW sells them for Horus heresy but not for 40K. Is there a trick to this or has everyone just been free handing their chapter symbols?
I am mostly free handing them or borrowing 30k, not that different
This was pretty nice. i'm always looking for anything to speed up painting just to get it over with faster. I'm guessing this might not work super great if you are trying for a half and half scheme. my inner masochist has been coming up and bugging me to try that on my own space marines when they get updated. maybe if one half is a super boring color like black. While i can't argue on Raven guard having a boring scheme I will disagree on most boring lore.
"everything about them is not interesting" LMAO
Vince does the slap chop method correctly?
He been doing videos about transparent paint/ink over a value sketch loooooooooong before someone called it slap chop. :)
@@brkfstfd was a joke!
@@StackingLimit Oh I totally figured, it just amuses me that sketch style stuff is now widely known as slap chop because of 1 video.