I love the sweetly bright sound of this instrument. So often, Steinways have a great "American" sound, but not so sweet as this Grotrian Steinway. THis is a terrific piano!
I once had a Moore & Moore upright concert piano which had a fine tone like that, unfortunately it was not of the same quality as German piano and the action was quite heavy. There used to be so many British makes, sadly all gone now!
Hello David, sorry I don't get time to answer comments much. By the way, thanks for the link to the over-underdamped piano on your site; really interesting to see the overs extending to the lower tenor too. We use various lubricants though I usually use Protek CLP as it's something I have with me; the main point of course is that the lubricant doesn't run down to the dampers! Really appreciate your comments. Marcus
@@RobertsPianos I'm convinced that lubrication really does make a difference. I also find it really helps string rendering on some of those old unrestored Bechstein grands that have a wide expanse of understring felt (actually cloth material on a slim wooden batten) between tuning pins and agraffes. Often the strings have bitten deep into the material and the surface of the strings is not that smooth. Now, can I ask if you know anything about the strange wires on the bass dozen dampers of an old Bechstein upright, shown about three-quarters of the way down the Bechstein page of my site www.davidboyce.co.uk/bechstein.php They have not been fly dampers; they terminate in a coil and there is no sign whatever of anything ever having been attached. John Delacour thought they might be "counterbalance wires" intended by their momentum to help the dampers settle better on the strings.
Thank you for this video Marcus. Can you please tell me why does my upright piano keeps on resonating after the dampers fall back? I think its the bass strings that keep resonating a bit. Its in perfect condition, but some bass strings buzz a bit and keep resonating as I said. You know any fix for this?
WombatwarriorHun I’d say it sounds like the dampers need regulation. If the dampers on one of the bi-chords is favoring one note over the other, the one that’s getting less of the damper can continue to resonate
M's Compositions sometimes when i slowly let go the key and let the damper fall back slowly, it makes the strimg buzz for a second. Its unnoticable while playing. How much is a damper regulation? Can a piano technician do it when tuning the piano?
WombatwarriorHun the buzzing could be a sign that the bass strings need to be replaced, which is around $600, but you should talk to a technician as just a good damper regulation should be what you need. Work like that goes by an hourly rate which varies from Technician to Technician, normal hourly rate is 1/2 of what a tuning costs, which varies depending on location. I’d imagine you wouldn’t spend much more than $100 or so
The quality of tone of these old german pianos seems unbeatable. Beautiful. Perfect.
I love the sweetly bright sound of this instrument. So often, Steinways have a great "American" sound, but not so sweet as this Grotrian Steinway. THis is a terrific piano!
I just restored a 124 from 1920. Really exceptional sound especially amazing bass!
I once had a Moore & Moore upright concert piano which had a fine tone like that, unfortunately it was not of the same quality as German piano and the action was quite heavy. There used to be so many British makes, sadly all gone now!
We had several pianos by Rogers. The grand was very much like a Bechstein in tone.
If you have had it what do you think of the Steinway model 1098 upright?
For lubricating the string bearing points, do you prefer Protek CLP, Protek Prolube, or something else?
Hello David, sorry I don't get time to answer comments much. By the way, thanks for the link to the over-underdamped piano on your site; really interesting to see the overs extending to the lower tenor too.
We use various lubricants though I usually use Protek CLP as it's something I have with me; the main point of course is that the lubricant doesn't run down to the dampers! Really appreciate your comments. Marcus
@@RobertsPianos I'm convinced that lubrication really does make a difference. I also find it really helps string rendering on some of those old unrestored Bechstein grands that have a wide expanse of understring felt (actually cloth material on a slim wooden batten) between tuning pins and agraffes. Often the strings have bitten deep into the material and the surface of the strings is not that smooth. Now, can I ask if you know anything about the strange wires on the bass dozen dampers of an old Bechstein upright, shown about three-quarters of the way down the Bechstein page of my site www.davidboyce.co.uk/bechstein.php They have not been fly dampers; they terminate in a coil and there is no sign whatever of anything ever having been attached. John Delacour thought they might be "counterbalance wires" intended by their momentum to help the dampers settle better on the strings.
Thank you for this video Marcus.
Can you please tell me why does my upright piano keeps on resonating after the dampers fall back? I think its the bass strings that keep resonating a bit.
Its in perfect condition, but some bass strings buzz a bit and keep resonating as I said.
You know any fix for this?
WombatwarriorHun I’d say it sounds like the dampers need regulation. If the dampers on one of the bi-chords is favoring one note over the other, the one that’s getting less of the damper can continue to resonate
M's Compositions sometimes when i slowly let go the key and let the damper fall back slowly, it makes the strimg buzz for a second. Its unnoticable while playing.
How much is a damper regulation?
Can a piano technician do it when tuning the piano?
WombatwarriorHun the buzzing could be a sign that the bass strings need to be replaced, which is around $600, but you should talk to a technician as just a good damper regulation should be what you need. Work like that goes by an hourly rate which varies from Technician to Technician, normal hourly rate is 1/2 of what a tuning costs, which varies depending on location. I’d imagine you wouldn’t spend much more than $100 or so