"Why do you find it so hard to believe?" "Why do you find it so easy?" "IT'S NEVER BEEN EASY!" Maaaaan, Terry O Quinn (Locke) and Matthew Fox (Jack) are just so good together! That whole scene is honestly one of my fav moments in the whole show. Great reaction to a great episode!
My read on Jack's reaction to Desmond is that he's letting himself acknowledge for the first time that this is really Desmond -- who in their previous encounter changed his life so profoundly when he was in his darkest hour by simply suggesting that he try to save her -- and that this cannot possibly be a mere coincidence now, meeting this man a second time. He puts the gun down, goes back inside, allows Locke to finally convince him to push the button.
I love that you remembered the compass Locke gave to Sayid that was "broken". Another interesting moment to remember is when Locke and Boone found the hatch, Boone wanted to go back to camp but Locke wanted to continue and said "can't you feel this?", he was feeling in his inside the electromagnetism coming from below.
Remember back in S1, Locke was talking to that woman on the phone, and he was calling her 'Helen?' I've always assumed that wasn't her real name, that he asked her to use that name with him.
Don’t forget that the scene with him speaking to the sex worker, is AFTER his injury. And after his relationship with Helen. ;) You are correct in that he asked her to allow him to call her Helen. Remembrance of his past relationship with the real Helen.
"This guy and Susan need to team up." I laughed. 😂 Here in the UK, these first three episodes aired one after another for the premiere. Me and my friends joked about how we'd seen Desmond holding Locke at gunpoint three times in one night.
Yes, they totally suit each other...they've always been my 2 most despised characters in the entire show. Wow, that's weird, I have no memory at all of these first 3 episodes airing back to back. On Channel 4?
@@Wannabe_Baby Curiouser and curiouser...I didn't even have E4 then and I know I didn't miss out on this episode. They must have repeated it on Channel 4 during the week or something.
This is the first time I've ever seen anyone discuss whether or not Helen's 'leap of faith' method is the best way to go. Really enjoyed your deliberations on it. With some addictions (such as alcohol) it's vital to slowly reduce, but going cold turkey may be more effective with other addictions. I don't think John would have been able to slowly reduce his night time 'stalking' visits...dragging the pain out would have only increased its intensity. Imo, Helen did the right thing.
If I had been Jack, I would never have pushed the button. It's one thing to have faith, it's another to ask, even almost force, a person who doesn't share it to follow it. If Locke wants to push the button, let him do it, or find a new Boone to do it.
I agree in principle, but I feel that Locke was only trying to help Jack here, in the same way that he helped Charlie with the drugs or Boone with his unhealthy Shannon obsession. None of his methods have been very orthodox (to say the least!) but, as we saw with Charlie and Boone, these methods got the job done. Locke believes that they are all there for a reason and is trying to help Jack to open his mind to things he doesn't understand (good luck, Locke 😉).
@@letsrock1729 It's weird that it's the more obsessed of the two who thinks he should help the less obsessed. Locke can believe what he wants and let others believe what they want. But this is apparently impossible for him.
@@youtpfpm6097 Well, I don't know about that 😉 Jack has an equally obsessive nature (the two of them are like peas in a pod!), but just about different things.
@@letsrock1729 For the hatch, and therefore the button, Locke is much more obsessed. Who decided to keep the secret, even at the cost of Boone's "sacrifice"? Who decides to go down to the hatch after having said he would wait? It's Locke, not Jack. So to push the button, Locke could very well have done it himself, as Jack says. No need to put pressure on him. That of Locke's finger is sufficient. 😂
@@youtpfpm6097 Oh yes, Locke is obviously the most obsessed about the hatch 😁 (Jack's obsessions play out elsewhere.) But I still believe that, despite Locke's hatch obsession, he was trying to help Jack take a leap of faith, just as Helen had once helped him to do this (and he hadn't wanted to either). Locke believes that taking a leap of faith will help to 'heal' Jack in some way...and I have to say that I think he's right .
I don't think I make a mistake, but in my memories, Vince was back already at the final of the first season, he swam in the sea after the raft... So Vince was here, already
Shannon was searching for Vince in the S2 premiere when Walt appeared in the jungle in front of her. But I agree that Vincent being "missing" was not actually important (except to Shannon).
@@jlilley73 Oh yes ! Thank you to remind me where we're at in the story... Only one episode a week is definitely not enough... So, I guess Locke could easily use his high frequency whistle, to call Vince and then it would have been back... But I bet Shannon does not want to ask to John Locke to use it because she considers Locke as the one who killed Boone And Locke could not see Vince was missing as he is part of the people who decided to live in the cave while Shannon wanted to stay on the beach (which is not very clever as if I was her, I would go where the doctor is, and especially if I have a severe asthma)
02:10 - 03:07 *THIS!* 02:27 - 02:38 S8 of GoT,is that you? 05:37 - 05:42 You know what's the most funny part is? I interpreted this dialouge as:"I like bold guys." "I'm not bald." "I can wait.😘"🤣 09:42 - 09:52 In effetti...😅 09:53 - 10:01 Oh,yes,there _is_ a film... 11:06 - 11:12 🦢 13:51 - 13:52 Yes... 13:53 Yes...! 13:53 - 13:57 Yes! 13:57 - 13:59 YES! 14:00 - 14:03 Oh. I thought you recognized the actress from somewhere else.😅The 1st time I saw her was in"Lost"but,after that,she popped out in a lot of other stuff and I always identified her as the-woman-from-"Lost"-with-Sanzo's-eyes.
It's advised you occasionally re-watch the orientation video, NOT a version you'll find on RUclips though, just the version in the actual episode. We all watched that dozens of times during the run of the show when we needed to remember details.
If Helen was more patient with John, it wouldn't make as good a story. It's written just like it should be. Confrontation, friction, makes good tv. If everything is sunflowers blue skies and baby kittens, nobody will watch it.
Watching Buffy required a decent amount of "I understand that this character is acting this way because it's necessary for the episode/season, and I will try not to hold it against them". LOST requires it too, but not quite as much, imo.
Why would you want a relationship with someone that was so consumed with their pain and anger (although understandable) that they’d choose that life, instead of the loving and fulfilling life you wanted to share with them? I can’t say I blame her.
Ok Jack's stance on this problem is the rational one, keep pushing until you learn something more, it might be important or not. It's Locke that made this about faith with his usual manipulation
I think this chapter has a serious error, if not, someone correct me. In chapter 1x4, Lockhe was already in a wheelchair and was only a client of Helen's, however in this chapter it is before he was in a wheelchair, and he is already with Helen?
The woman Locke spoke to in 1x4 is a sex photo worker who's name isn't actually Helen, but John calls her Helen cause clearly John and the Helen he meets in this episode break up sometime in the future (cause we see he's alone in Walkabout) and so John starts calling a sex phone worker and calls her Helen. I hope this explanation clears that up
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Locke's flashbacks are like watching someone who's already been beaten to the ground then get kicked repeatedly in the stomach.
They are the only flashbacks that I skip everytime, I can't stand rewatching him suffer again and again 😢
"Why do you find it so hard to believe?" "Why do you find it so easy?" "IT'S NEVER BEEN EASY!" Maaaaan, Terry O Quinn (Locke) and Matthew Fox (Jack) are just so good together! That whole scene is honestly one of my fav moments in the whole show. Great reaction to a great episode!
The Locke & Jack scenes are at the top for my favorite moments of the show.
One of my favorite interactions in show.
My read on Jack's reaction to Desmond is that he's letting himself acknowledge for the first time that this is really Desmond -- who in their previous encounter changed his life so profoundly when he was in his darkest hour by simply suggesting that he try to save her -- and that this cannot possibly be a mere coincidence now, meeting this man a second time. He puts the gun down, goes back inside, allows Locke to finally convince him to push the button.
You're right in your intro. Well lit night scenes are a lost art...
I love that you remembered the compass Locke gave to Sayid that was "broken". Another interesting moment to remember is when Locke and Boone found the hatch, Boone wanted to go back to camp but Locke wanted to continue and said "can't you feel this?", he was feeling in his inside the electromagnetism coming from below.
Remember back in S1, Locke was talking to that woman on the phone, and he was calling her 'Helen?' I've always assumed that wasn't her real name, that he asked her to use that name with him.
It's possible. However, I assumed he especially choose a woman named Helen from a list of sex call operators or maybe ads.
Don’t forget that the scene with him speaking to the sex worker, is AFTER his injury. And after his relationship with Helen. ;) You are correct in that he asked her to allow him to call her Helen. Remembrance of his past relationship with the real Helen.
"This guy and Susan need to team up." I laughed. 😂
Here in the UK, these first three episodes aired one after another for the premiere. Me and my friends joked about how we'd seen Desmond holding Locke at gunpoint three times in one night.
Yes, they totally suit each other...they've always been my 2 most despised characters in the entire show.
Wow, that's weird, I have no memory at all of these first 3 episodes airing back to back. On Channel 4?
@@letsrock1729 They did the first two on Channel 4, then the third one on E4.
@@Wannabe_Baby Curiouser and curiouser...I didn't even have E4 then and I know I didn't miss out on this episode. They must have repeated it on Channel 4 during the week or something.
Locke, Desmond, and Sawyer were my 3 favorites
11:36 "and will be for the next 540 days."
540 is the sum of The Numbers, multiplied by 5.
This is the first time I've ever seen anyone discuss whether or not Helen's 'leap of faith' method is the best way to go. Really enjoyed your deliberations on it. With some addictions (such as alcohol) it's vital to slowly reduce, but going cold turkey may be more effective with other addictions.
I don't think John would have been able to slowly reduce his night time 'stalking' visits...dragging the pain out would have only increased its intensity. Imo, Helen did the right thing.
FYI: Helen, John's girlfriend, played Peg Bundy on Married with Children 👍
And Leela on Futurama, and ... some main character on Sons of Anarchy 😅 Katey Sagal, she's the best
@@jlilley73Gemma.
we need 3 chapters per week because you are awesome
12:40 all excellent questions
New Scoobie here to enjoy my favorite show of all time on YT... you deserve the watch time! Love it all! 💯❤️
Great video as always 😊👍🐾💜
Ana Lucia has arrived!
love your reactions! keep going
If I had been Jack, I would never have pushed the button. It's one thing to have faith, it's another to ask, even almost force, a person who doesn't share it to follow it. If Locke wants to push the button, let him do it, or find a new Boone to do it.
I agree in principle, but I feel that Locke was only trying to help Jack here, in the same way that he helped Charlie with the drugs or Boone with his unhealthy Shannon obsession.
None of his methods have been very orthodox (to say the least!) but, as we saw with Charlie and Boone, these methods got the job done.
Locke believes that they are all there for a reason and is trying to help Jack to open his mind to things he doesn't understand (good luck, Locke 😉).
@@letsrock1729 It's weird that it's the more obsessed of the two who thinks he should help the less obsessed. Locke can believe what he wants and let others believe what they want. But this is apparently impossible for him.
@@youtpfpm6097 Well, I don't know about that 😉 Jack has an equally obsessive nature (the two of them are like peas in a pod!), but just about different things.
@@letsrock1729 For the hatch, and therefore the button, Locke is much more obsessed. Who decided to keep the secret, even at the cost of Boone's "sacrifice"? Who decides to go down to the hatch after having said he would wait? It's Locke, not Jack. So to push the button, Locke could very well have done it himself, as Jack says. No need to put pressure on him. That of Locke's finger is sufficient. 😂
@@youtpfpm6097 Oh yes, Locke is obviously the most obsessed about the hatch 😁 (Jack's obsessions play out elsewhere.)
But I still believe that, despite Locke's hatch obsession, he was trying to help Jack take a leap of faith, just as Helen had once helped him to do this (and he hadn't wanted to either). Locke believes that taking a leap of faith will help to 'heal' Jack in some way...and I have to say that I think he's right .
Jack told Ana Lucia that he was no longer married. He told Desmond that he married her, but crying, because he is no longer married
I don't think I make a mistake, but in my memories, Vince was back already at the final of the first season, he swam in the sea after the raft... So Vince was here, already
Shannon was searching for Vince in the S2 premiere when Walt appeared in the jungle in front of her. But I agree that Vincent being "missing" was not actually important (except to Shannon).
@@jlilley73 Oh yes ! Thank you to remind me where we're at in the story... Only one episode a week is definitely not enough... So, I guess Locke could easily use his high frequency whistle, to call Vince and then it would have been back... But I bet Shannon does not want to ask to John Locke to use it because she considers Locke as the one who killed Boone
And Locke could not see Vince was missing as he is part of the people who decided to live in the cave while Shannon wanted to stay on the beach (which is not very clever as if I was her, I would go where the doctor is, and especially if I have a severe asthma)
02:10 - 03:07 *THIS!* 02:27 - 02:38 S8 of GoT,is that you?
05:37 - 05:42 You know what's the most funny part is? I interpreted this dialouge as:"I like bold guys." "I'm not bald." "I can wait.😘"🤣
09:42 - 09:52 In effetti...😅 09:53 - 10:01 Oh,yes,there _is_ a film... 11:06 - 11:12 🦢 13:51 - 13:52 Yes... 13:53 Yes...! 13:53 - 13:57 Yes! 13:57 - 13:59 YES! 14:00 - 14:03 Oh. I thought you recognized the actress from somewhere else.😅The 1st time I saw her was in"Lost"but,after that,she popped out in a lot of other stuff and I always identified her as the-woman-from-"Lost"-with-Sanzo's-eyes.
If you like Helen on this show, you might want to react to Sons of Anarchy....
4+8+15+16+23+42=108.
108 minutes
It's advised you occasionally re-watch the orientation video, NOT a version you'll find on RUclips though, just the version in the actual episode. We all watched that dozens of times during the run of the show when we needed to remember details.
If Helen was more patient with John, it wouldn't make as good a story. It's written just like it should be. Confrontation, friction, makes good tv. If everything is sunflowers blue skies and baby kittens, nobody will watch it.
Watching Buffy required a decent amount of "I understand that this character is acting this way because it's necessary for the episode/season, and I will try not to hold it against them".
LOST requires it too, but not quite as much, imo.
Why would you want a relationship with someone that was so consumed with their pain and anger (although understandable) that they’d choose that life, instead of the loving and fulfilling life you wanted to share with them? I can’t say I blame her.
Lockes dad is the worst person on this show.
Ok Jack's stance on this problem is the rational one, keep pushing until you learn something more, it might be important or not. It's Locke that made this about faith with his usual manipulation
Yes. Jack held Desmond at gun point while screaming, rationally 🙄
I think this chapter has a serious error, if not, someone correct me.
In chapter 1x4, Lockhe was already in a wheelchair and was only a client of Helen's, however in this chapter it is before he was in a wheelchair, and he is already with Helen?
The woman Locke spoke to in 1x4 is a sex photo worker who's name isn't actually Helen, but John calls her Helen cause clearly John and the Helen he meets in this episode break up sometime in the future (cause we see he's alone in Walkabout) and so John starts calling a sex phone worker and calls her Helen. I hope this explanation clears that up
@@pretentiousn3rd Great, thank you
Hi TheLexiCrowd
I asked you this question in my comment under your last Game Of Thrones video, but you didn't write a reply to me so I ask it to you here, hoping you will : Will we have a chance to have in a near future more than 1 episode a week of Lost ?
Thank you very much in advance for your answer
No, because on his patreon he only reacts 1 per week. She watches all the series the same way
@@joselopezforque8745 Ah ok, but maybe he can watch more episodes a week, that way, she'll do it so 😄 and everybody will be happy ☺☺☺☺☺☺
@@elodie2404 But she wouldn't be happy, she already explained why she only sees one a week