@@jorgee_pena No its the mere fact that he feels like chugging it despite not really wanting it because he probably wouldn't want to waste it. His concern around wasting it probably comes from his family not having access to a lot of wealth growing up.
Logan taught greg probably the most important lesson of his life here. If you have leverage, use it, and know exactly what you want and dont compromise.
And Greg used the advice afterwards in Season 4 when he fired people on the zoom, confronted Shiv who kept bothering Tom on election day, and even had an opportunity to talk to Mecken who becomes a president by representing ATN.
It's funny and sad how Greg is basically the only one Logan gives real, honest advice to. All the other kids get nuggets of wisdom wrapped up in thick layers of insincerity and manipulation, but for Greg he's just like, "Hey kid, you did good. You held out for a better deal, and now that better deal is here. Put yourself together and figure out what you want, and if it's not something insane, I'll give it to you." Logan's a better dad to his grand-nephew than he is to his own damn kids.
I feel like Logan goes to the level of the kid in question. He knows his kids are flawed, but he balances barbs with what he thinks the need to hear and do. He knows they are capable to varying degrees, so he gives them no more than he has to. With Greg, he knows he's a retriever puppy personified. He talks to him with more granularity and kindness because he knows that's what Greg needs.
i love the line delivery as he struggles to get out each word as he slowly realizes the absurdity of what he's saying while trying to make it sound normal and professional
The dude wrangled his way up from puking inside a costume at an amusement park to the elbow of the CEO in a couple of years. He was a great negotiator.
The thing is, even drunk and inexperienced, Greg negotiates better than the kids most of the time. They are weighed down by their ambitions and desperate fight to overcome one another -- but Greg simply wants as much as he can have. Not entirely unlike Logan.
Thats because his kids have infinite wants, ie they want it all, so are essentially impossible to negotiate with. So Logan doesnt bother, he just manipulates them to get the short term outcome he wants. Gregg's wants are far more realistic and achievable so Logan negotiates with him knowing he can achieve a realistic outcome.
Logan easily could've bullied him into signing then and there, but instead he told Greg how this is supposed to work and dismissed him. Pretty interesting, Logan either wants to see Greg learn the dance, or has no interest in making a deal if they don't know the moves already
I think, because Greg is the one who least fears him, Logan has a weird kind of respect for him. Also, getting Greg on his side can be a way of getting back at his brother.
I haven't seen S4 year but wasn't Greg in S1 kinda a bum + drug addict like Ken was? He might know the selling tactics from the street(was prolly a dealer). I don't know
The order of rum and coke, shows exactly where he is; a child trying to play with the big boys, the rum is Greg trying to level up as a man but the coke still shows he is not there yet
its more just that rum and coke is your typical "unrefined" college boy drink, but you are right the whole point was to highlight how out of his league gregg was.
@@xwinger15 I liked the ending, though i am sad for the kids seeming to aceive no closure Tom's rise throught the show (and Greg with him) work as an ending though.
@@helpconflict9851 they do kinda recieve closure in that they dont have to tie themselves to this company that's always brought out the worst in them anymore and can seek real character growth (as much growth as a huge payout and no financial struggle would give anyways)
@@evorm7329 I still kinda HATE the underlying “subtext” (ie: Big Tech is COMING to eat ALL OF OUR LUNCHES) of the ending but thought it was a pretty poetic one, regardless.
@@jaythomas468 I don't think that's the subtext, it was just Big Tech cause the show was about Big Media IMO. It could have been any "new" conniving force that overthrows a current established one due to their tenacity. The Roys served it up to them on a platter basically by the end. They just weren't serious people.
@@boltzenberg6836 he wasn´t thinking about sophistication but rather what "would a manly man drink". the unsophistication of it just adds to the commedy
Unpopular opinion: Logan is exactly what he needs to be within the context that he exists. He has to get people to do things they wouldn’t otherwise do. He does what is necessary.
Logan understands people, so he understands Greg. Greg is is simple; he has information that he's willing to give if he gets what he wants. thats why Greg thrived and the sibling got destroyed, they just ask for too much without having leverage.
Lol I think he is the most morally corrupt. He doesn't care about anyone other than himself, like everybody else, but he is extreme. Literally does not do 1 nice thing in the show lol
He probably needed the 'Sugar Rush' more than the Alcohol!!! Smart move, GREG! Love me some Greg...😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂🍫🍸 What also caught my attention: A Lawyer who is often 'not available' during the Daytime😄😆
At least this scene pokes at the strangeness of just having alcohol at hand in your office at all times of the day, oh but apparently just straight or maybe with ice, no mixed drinks its not that vibe 😂
Are you asking about the show Succession as a whole? Having finished it myself about a week ago, I would answer that question with a resounding YES. Season 1 does take some time to pick up speed, but once you give it time and become invested in the characters, you will be eagerly awaiting the next episode. I still feel a sense of loss now that I’ve had to say goodbye to these characters with the final season.
What drink would you have ordered?
Coca-Cola of course
Irish coffee
Scotch
a dirty shirley
Rum and coke sounds pretty good actually
Logan is so lucky to sharing time with such important figure like Greg
I’m not saying Greg is immensely and incomprehensibly important. That’s unsaid.
The art of the deal!
@@iforgot87872 it’s not unsaid if you say it!
Well look where Greg is now versus Logan. Who won?
I was secretly rooting for Greg to become CEO of waystar at the end of season 4.
“Should I chug this? I can chug it..” My god, what a boss move Greg.
can you tell me what it meant, im stupid
@@rogersimons1082 It's sarcasm. But if Greg was more confident he wouldn't even ask if he should, he would have just chug it.
@@jorgee_pena No its the mere fact that he feels like chugging it despite not really wanting it because he probably wouldn't want to waste it. His concern around wasting it probably comes from his family not having access to a lot of wealth growing up.
you sound like tom
Hahaha well said. He sure does lmao@@simonz_02
"better times? not for all" I love this series
that part made me laugh so fuckung hard 😭😭😭
Id love to know whether these off the cuff lines were scripted or improvised.
Logan taught greg probably the most important lesson of his life here. If you have leverage, use it, and know exactly what you want and dont compromise.
Big big facts
real.
Valid! Leverage tends to backfire unless applied through a very narrow window of timing.
yeah "what can I get?" is very much not the question to be asking here haha
And Greg used the advice afterwards in Season 4 when he fired people on the zoom, confronted Shiv who kept bothering Tom on election day, and even had an opportunity to talk to Mecken who becomes a president by representing ATN.
“What Greg wants, oof, Greg must have…” 😂😂
🤣hahaha its so funny
Nononononononononooo, what Greg wants, phuh, Greg must have
I love that line so much 😂
Argueably my favorite line in the series because Logan doesn't even try a little bit to be serious
Love how Brian says “Cocaaa Cola”
Co-Ckaa Co-LaA!
A very Shakespearean Coca Cola
Reminds me of the australian guy getting arrested for enjoying a succulent chinese meal
He says it in such a patronizing way, I thought it was hilarious
Channeling Matt Berry
It's funny and sad how Greg is basically the only one Logan gives real, honest advice to. All the other kids get nuggets of wisdom wrapped up in thick layers of insincerity and manipulation, but for Greg he's just like, "Hey kid, you did good. You held out for a better deal, and now that better deal is here. Put yourself together and figure out what you want, and if it's not something insane, I'll give it to you."
Logan's a better dad to his grand-nephew than he is to his own damn kids.
I feel like Logan goes to the level of the kid in question. He knows his kids are flawed, but he balances barbs with what he thinks the need to hear and do. He knows they are capable to varying degrees, so he gives them no more than he has to.
With Greg, he knows he's a retriever puppy personified. He talks to him with more granularity and kindness because he knows that's what Greg needs.
He probably had a similar approach to his kids when they were younger. He's had so long to figure out they're just hopeless.
@iorekby they all need kindness ,though. They're his kids.
@@ellie-tk4jy That's cute but he's not trying to be a good parent. He's trying to control/manipulate his kids to his own advantage.
@JK756 what's cute? Obviously he isn't trying to be a good parent- the point is, he should be.
"You and Kendall have been hanging around a lot, correct?"
"I am."
Love this subtle humor, it's like the office, but with higher stakes.
that is THE MOST PERFECT analysis of Cousin Greg, THANK YOU.
Purely social haha
I dont get it - is it a gay joke?
@@Thomas-f6y5t just an awkward way of saying it, the dialogue feels very off the cuff and realistic.
“No, no, no, no, what Greg wants pff, Greg must have” hahaha what a power move on Logan’s part.
Just keep thinking Logan is thinking in terms of the menu at McDonald's since he does their voiceovers.
“I’d have to speak to my lawyer Pugh, who is often unavailable during day time”
i love the line delivery as he struggles to get out each word as he slowly realizes the absurdity of what he's saying while trying to make it sound normal and professional
He has a bowtie that lights up and spins around lmao
😂
Zellman? Congressman Zellman?
he actually negotiated with Logan just the way it should be. he did great
So be it
if it is to be said
The dude wrangled his way up from puking inside a costume at an amusement park to the elbow of the CEO in a couple of years. He was a great negotiator.
First rule of negotiations is never name your price first.
It's not the smoothest sure, but "What can I get" is a great response to Logan here.
Not really. He's just lucky that Logan has a soft spot for him.
Greg is the perfect opportunist. He doesn't know what he wants and also asks what he can have. I love the way he stumbles upward the food chain.
The thing is, even drunk and inexperienced, Greg negotiates better than the kids most of the time. They are weighed down by their ambitions and desperate fight to overcome one another -- but Greg simply wants as much as he can have. Not entirely unlike Logan.
Don't think that when Logan was coming up that he was a ruthless killer all the time, just a smart guy who sucked the right dicks at the right time.
for the kids is personal, for greg is business.
Bro isn't "drunk"
Thats because his kids have infinite wants, ie they want it all, so are essentially impossible to negotiate with. So Logan doesnt bother, he just manipulates them to get the short term outcome he wants. Gregg's wants are far more realistic and achievable so Logan negotiates with him knowing he can achieve a realistic outcome.
He’s not going to be instantly drunk after drinking alcohol, even spirits. Definitely feeling it within 30 mins though.
This show is a real masterpiece.
u must be easy to impress.
@@VintageMovieChannel not as easy as your mom
@@rolanddeschain588 then why are you stalking around the clips of such a trash show?
@@allofthatgoodstuff380 lmao
@@VintageMovieChanneli guess all the Emmy’s they just won is fugazzi
Imagine your lawyer not being available during the day 😂
"Ahhhhhhh....GREEEGGG." He might as well have been Ursula telling Ariel to "Come in...come in my child..."
Live action or original?
This feels like Mr. Bean meeting Dr. Hannibal Lecter.
Lol
Well, half of it is kind of the case. I don't know if you are aware of it, but Brian Cox played Hannibal Lector in Michael Mann's "Manhunter".
@@speedy3702 well I don't know if you're aware but Nicholas plays Mr. Bean in the future. So it was all planned
Not sure if I would go as far as comparing Greg to Hannibal Lecter, but okay.
Yeah, but in what world could Lector play or manipulate Mr Bean?
Logan easily could've bullied him into signing then and there, but instead he told Greg how this is supposed to work and dismissed him. Pretty interesting, Logan either wants to see Greg learn the dance, or has no interest in making a deal if they don't know the moves already
I think, because Greg is the one who least fears him, Logan has a weird kind of respect for him. Also, getting Greg on his side can be a way of getting back at his brother.
@@cancerino666 "least fears him"? He's shaking like a leaf!
@@Mopark25 Greg is always anxious, but he's bolder than most when it matters.
Greg is not even stable enough to bully, Logan thought it was easier to be frank with him than try to steer this jello into doing anything.
@@Majkels precisely
come on, greg has proven himself way better negotiator than every other sibling. he did get what he wanted from this conversation, right?
Agree, but I think the only issue was coming to this without know what he wants. If he was prepared to that it was faster .
It looked like he got steamrolled like a cartoon character.
I haven't seen S4 year but wasn't Greg in S1 kinda a bum + drug addict like Ken was? He might know the selling tactics from the street(was prolly a dealer). I don't know
@@gatwick127He smoked weed, Ken smoked crack, they’re hardly the same lol
@@marcuslong9761 it looked like he was pretending to get steamrolled like a cartoon character
Different times, different times indeed , better times ? No, not for all
if it is to be said
Imo Greg’s funniest moment in the entire show.
@@PathosConsultingGroup so it be
@@PathosConsultingGroupso it be
So it is
The order of rum and coke, shows exactly where he is; a child trying to play with the big boys, the rum is Greg trying to level up as a man but the coke still shows he is not there yet
its more just that rum and coke is your typical "unrefined" college boy drink, but you are right the whole point was to highlight how out of his league gregg was.
@@benburch wish there were more quality shows like this
This kid is gonna be either sacrificed like a pawn or take the whole company
how do you feel about the ending?
@@xwinger15 I liked the ending, though i am sad for the kids seeming to aceive no closure
Tom's rise throught the show (and Greg with him) work as an ending though.
@@helpconflict9851 they do kinda recieve closure in that they dont have to tie themselves to this company that's always brought out the worst in them anymore and can seek real character growth (as much growth as a huge payout and no financial struggle would give anyways)
@@evorm7329
I still kinda HATE the underlying “subtext” (ie: Big Tech is COMING to eat ALL OF OUR LUNCHES) of the ending but thought it was a pretty poetic one, regardless.
@@jaythomas468 I don't think that's the subtext, it was just Big Tech cause the show was about Big Media IMO. It could have been any "new" conniving force that overthrows a current established one due to their tenacity. The Roys served it up to them on a platter basically by the end. They just weren't serious people.
“Strong for a man” 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
If I ever have a rum and Coke I’m gonna say this 🤣
You can't make a Tomellette without breaking some Greg's.
underrated comment
Strong for a man
It's so perfect that Greg didn't even know what he wanted to drink, he just ordered what he thought Logan would aprove the most
rum and coke? the most unrefined mix in the world of alcoholic beverages?
@@boltzenberg6836 he wasn´t thinking about sophistication but rather what "would a manly man drink". the unsophistication of it just adds to the commedy
@@boltzenberg6836 oh god the drink snobs are here
no, it's a little kid drink; that's why he ordered it and that's why it's funny
@@boltzenberg6836it's a good strong drink (for a man)
The attack dog, Gregweiler 😆
I'm addicted to the way he says Greeeeeeg
😂😂😂 he sounds so evil
I didn’t know Roy family was just like a mafia. They even have soft drinks of choice.
dont disrespect the pizza parlor
@@sensitivewhiteboyWhatever happened there
Borko is leaking
_- ¡You and Greg Egg again!_
0:39 Greg's just got the happiest puppy face hahaha
After the tone of Logan's greeting, Greg should've run hahaha
Unpopular opinion: Logan is exactly what he needs to be within the context that he exists. He has to get people to do things they wouldn’t otherwise do. He does what is necessary.
Brian Cox shows off his comedy chops again!
Succession is going to end up with Greg on the throne, I mean as CEO of the company.
@ Not really, but he has a fantastic knack of falling upwards :D
@ Yes he is getting more sure of himself and his place in the family.
it does look like it - i think logan was quite impressed that greg didnt sign immediately and asked for whats in it for him
I think it's coming down to Greg vs. Tom showdown...They are building up their friendship and I think it will eventually come crashing down
I’ve been saying this from the beginning and if it ends up being one of the siblings imma be pissed. Tom or Greg deserve it more than anyone
Those last lines of Greg, powerful,maybe he was him that betrayed the holy trinity brothers 😂
i almost spit my food out the first time i watched this when he said "rum and coke". The writing in this show was too good.
This show is so very masterpiece
This scene right here is exactly why this show is a masterpiece
The acting in this show is just sooooo fkn good
If Greg negotiated the GoJo deal, it’d be done by Season 1
The way he looks at the coke being poured is just gold man...
Why have I never seen the end of this scene? “Better times? Not for all.” Hilarious improv
Asking for a rum and coke during a business meeting with the CEO...that's ballsy, I love his style.
This is the funniest scene in the whole show for me
Bruh the way he wraps his fingers around the glass always gets me for some reason 😂
Logan understands people, so he understands Greg. Greg is is simple; he has information that he's willing to give if he gets what he wants. thats why Greg thrived and the sibling got destroyed, they just ask for too much without having leverage.
*Greg has some leverage*
Logan: what do you want?
Shiv: *threatens him*
Shiv can never be the one who wins
U saw it coming
She did not even attempt to remove any organs from greg neither did she pay someone to do it lol
I adore Greg, he's such a dork, but he's the most moral, humane family member... At least initially!
He'll end up being the most corrupt I think
No, why do you have such assumption? He issuing green peace and his grandfather for their money, lol he is the same as them.
Lol I think he is the most morally corrupt. He doesn't care about anyone other than himself, like everybody else, but he is extreme. Literally does not do 1 nice thing in the show lol
@@augustinefaithdefender hey that was a suing in an affectionate kinda way
He’s already turning into Tom Jr
I think this is the correct way to negotiate with Logan😊
00:29 Kendal's mistake is not buying that watch for Greg, because Greg spared some of those papers Ken needed to win the case.
Logan talks to every single character differently.
Whereas someone like Roman talks to every character the same.
This is how it feels to start out working in the corporate world under people who have forgotten more than you will ever know.
Greg Logan interactions were the best.
0:30 funniest moment of the episode😂
The way he growls Greeeeg
this show is just so good. loved every bit of it
I thought I seen every second of succession, how did I miss this gem ? 😂
What Greg wants,Greg must have.
Greg really was forced into ingesting a lot of intoxicants on this show wasn't he lol
the coke episode was so funny haha
strong wow... 👍 nice and strong 👍 strong one. 👍 strong for a man 👍
nice and strong, strong one 😭 ohhh my man
But whatever Greg wants, Greg must have.
I was reccomended this after a Mad Men negotiation clip. The algorythm has a sense of humor I think.
I'd have loved one more season of succession 😢
strong for a man
The next US president opens a coke for Logan and Logan opens it for Greg, this is the real hierarchical order of things.
Been lookin for someone esse making this connection. Do you think it was a callback to this scene?
@@Henry_Mustache yes probably a funny reference for the screenwriters
It's time to watch Succession again
There's an alternate ending where Greg gets the company but Jesse Armstrong was afraid of breaking the world
The most powerful and dangerous man in the Succession-sphere, having a drink with Logan
He probably needed the 'Sugar Rush' more than the Alcohol!!! Smart move, GREG! Love me some Greg...😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂🍫🍸 What also caught my attention: A Lawyer who is often 'not available' during the Daytime😄😆
Is Greg's lawyer a vampire 😂? Why is he not available during the day?
This mf is gonna end as CEO or in other power position in the company
Gregg owned the room
I love how Logan says his name 😂
I'm gonna miss this character so much
Strong. Strong. Nice and strong one. Strong for a man.
Lmao “I don’t know how you did it back in the 60s”
“The 60s.” This show takes place around 2020 lmfao
We have all been Greg at one point or another.
Logan was a business guru.
Should I chug this?
Amazing
😭😭😭
Strong ! … strong for a man
The most powerful and the least powerful character in the show negotiating. Guaranteed gold.
I love how he says Coca-cola.
strong, nice and strong, strong, strong for a man!
I remember when Kerry used to pour Greg's drinks and as far as I'm concerned it should still be that way
You know that it's not Christmas because they didn't offer him a Greggnog.
Brilliant acting.
Watching this again there is no way he will get the Iron Throne. But he could be a great deputy
You called it.
What a brilliant tv show
Just. See it to season 2 episode 6. This show is a beautiful train wreck and I can’t stop watching.
Two weeks ago no episodes of the series were released why is the third season over?
At least this scene pokes at the strangeness of just having alcohol at hand in your office at all times of the day, oh but apparently just straight or maybe with ice, no mixed drinks its not that vibe 😂
is this thing worth my time? Ive tried to start it few times but Im not able to get pass the first couple episodes
Are you asking about the show Succession as a whole? Having finished it myself about a week ago, I would answer that question with a resounding YES. Season 1 does take some time to pick up speed, but once you give it time and become invested in the characters, you will be eagerly awaiting the next episode. I still feel a sense of loss now that I’ve had to say goodbye to these characters with the final season.
@@ValiantPixel thanks for the reply. I will give it another try
I didn’t even watch season 1 I started on season 2
@@lurkingsoldi2107 Why would anyone skip a season, especially the first one?💀
@@m.slm. I just started watching on season 2 at a friends house. And then I rewatched it. But season 1 is the worst season anyways
Logan made Mencken get a can of Coca Cola to show fealty. So the fact that he's pouring Greg a can of cola is a gesture of extreme deference to him.
"Greg I like you but you're not a serious human being"
Can’t believe Greg is the same actor from Sky High
He says come around and ask what you want then he gets utis and forgets everything this mans is just...
more like “How to negotiate with Greg”