I’m with IB on the fact that I’m also use to a 9 foot 7WT fly rod to punch through all the wind we have to contend with. That aside, it was really exciting to watch Andy land that fish which was half the size of the rod. So if Andy’s day job is being a guide, when I book a flight across the pond to visit the, “Land Of My Ancestors”, I want Andy as my guide for English Fly Fishing simply because HE KNOWS HOW TO CATCH FISH. 😀
18 years ago I took a rod building class. The guy holding the class had these fly rod 5ft 3wt. So thats what I had to make and I've been creek banging ever since. They are hard to cast and control the line on the water. Great video lovex seeing the struggle and its not just me lol
@@IBandAndyFishing not the first hand full of times. The casting I had to seek help from a very good casting friend, good experience there to.The line control on the water for me was the hard part. I've also moved it to fishing only small streams and creeks, thats where it excels. Very good video and brought back some fond memories of the struggles I had and again great video loved it
Aww you took ya little baby out how cute great video and awesome fish. Im wagling my rod at you as i type 😂😂😂 looking forward to seeing your next video
Hi Andy n IB , well done andy nice casting,but im with IB on this one think i will stick with my full length rod thanks, good vidio keep making then, thanks alan.
Great video and laugh at 02:37am...(myself and insomnia had a good laugh) .... I recognise the area near the bridge... that was my fish on the opposite bank....lol.....as usual you guys rock.....:-) :-)
I have a Maxcatch #1 6ft rod, and its great fun..... alot of fun for very little money and great for tight spaces and overgrown streams..... I wouldnt change it now, If you havent tried one, I suggest you do!
As I am an instructor I would politely suggest you practice on a grass space to develope the technique required,ie.using rod flex and double hauling the line.
Funny enough, I bought a combo kit to learn to fly fish with. I think it was 8.5’. Anyways, I couldn’t figure out how to cast that thing, and ended up breaking it in the back of my buddy’s truck before I could use it. Fast forward to now, I just put the reel on an old bingo bug rod that I have. That rod is my favourite already, I use it everywhere the wind cooperates. Now that I put that fly reel on it, I can cast it better than with the original rod.
Surely this rod would be ideal for somewhere like the river East Allen where I fish that is only a metre or two wide and has trees covering the area. So with longer rod the trees get more flies than the trout.
The dynamic duo well done both of you i fish a 4ft 3# fly rod i use it on very small urban streams fantastic for that situation it's really difficult to go from a long rod to a very short rod i thought you did well andy very well IB struggled and to be honest i can understand why she did struggle plus the wind never helped but IB landed a nice wild brownie well done IB the bend in that baby brook was terrifying really enjoy the video good fun well done the dynamic duo,these small rods are fantastic on small urban streams.Para
I definitely think there's a time and place for this rig, it just wasn't where we were trying to fish it. That said when you get it right it really zings a line out!
I really enjoyed this video. Using a rod that you weren’t familiar with which put your casting techniques to the test is a great idea. I think you both did really well. Well done! XX
Hi IB & Andy, you show fly fishing as it should be.....Fun, competitive camaraderie, shared humour when things don't go to plan and joy when they do. I think I also would have struggled using this rod for the first time. very impressed with the lack of any beeps in this video, How far were you trying to cast ?
This was a big edit, we both did plenty of bleeping at times! Most of the casts were sub 50', but with about 15' of leader which made it tough, especially when that wind got up for IB
@@IBandAndyFishing I think you did well to persevere with this, I would have needed to limit myself to about 30' and reduce the leader, but you gave the rod a real test. Very much enjoying your Vlogs, keep up the good work, it's much appreciated.
Fair play fishing a rod that's going to throw you a curve ball, not a small brook you fished either was it? I recon Andy had two big advantages, taller and experience. That looks ideal for small waters. Loving the honesty of the review guys, another great vid
I agree, I think my long arms definitely help, plus I've used most of the other practice rods on the market and understand how differently they work to a normal outfit.
Damn. That is an odd rod for sure... Smallest I have is a 5 ft 2wt. For real real small tight brooks and catching like 3 to 4 inch bookies... That was a great video though. I think the challenge of that shorty rod was definitely in the casting but also in the mending and manipulation of the line. I really think you both did great!! Thank you for another awesome video!! I may look into getting that outfit as a back pack tool to add when I am prospecting. Be safe and keep them lines tight!!
Andy, I’m curious if you’ve read the book, CHALK STREAM, SALMON & TROUT FISHING by Charles Bingham? It’s an older book, but the kind that inspires me to want to come visit the UK. If I’m not mistaken, it might even be part of the Fly Fishing International Series. 😇
I’m really enjoying it, yes. It’s the kind of book which makes me want to go there with my fly rod. Also, that “Zap-A-Gap” you turned me onto in one of your videos REALLY WORKS. My knots have never been great by any means, but a single drop of it can not only keep clinch knots from coming undone, but also kept the sole from an older shoe of mine from completely falling apart. The thing is, I had never even heard of it before seeing you use it in one of your videos. Sort of makes me wonder what else I have yet to learn. But the content you have been providing really has been therapeutic, and particularly at times when we’ve been stuck at home and can’t quite make it out on the water. I also have enjoyed watching the competitive spirit between the both of you. My spouse who happens to be able to do anything I teach her better than myself just received a 6WT Reddington Crosswater fly rod combo for Christmas, and I’m very much looking forward to seeing which one of us can catch more fish, with a view to eventually flying across the pond to fly fish on some English Chalk Streams. 😇
Fab video. Andy - when you mentioned fishing your 10' #4 overweight does this relate to line rating or something else? Thanks. Keep up the good work both of you - IB - it's great for my daughter to have a female role model in fishing 👍
Hi guys, would like to see it tried with a #4 line or a Barrio SLX #3, for a practice/fun rod it would have to be cheap, can't see many flying off the shelves. Are the rainbows stocked? if so what are your thoughts on stocking wild brown waters with 'Bows?
Next time I take it out I'm going to overline it by one and put a slightly lighter reel on the back of it - I think there's a really nice rod in there somewhere. Regarding the rainbows, they're stocked in the dove yes. Not my cup of tea personally, the river produces some really big wild browns and grayling and in my opinion doesn't require stocking at all.
It's an interesting little outfit that amplifies every timing error in your cast. I originally thought there needed to be one more guide on as I kept getting a loop of line before the tip ring. I then tried casting with out the reel and that problem disappeared. I've since loaded the line on a Wychwood River & Stream 2/3, at a third of the weight, and it feels a lot better. The Traxion 1 2/4 would have been a better choice of reel.
That's exactly what we said after the day, I think I'm going to overline it by a size too. It's pretty hard to carry any line in the air with it, some having a bit more mass to shoot with might help things along. To be continued!
@@IBandAndyFishing I've tried a DT4 which just created a different set of problems, but I'll let you try and see what you think. I think the best thing to do is flail about over grass with it until you get the hang of it, then go fishing with it.
Hi folks my wife has gone nuts I've decided to take up fly fishing so I am looking at the Shakespeare sigma fly rod combo preferably a 9-ft 5 weight' would this be ok for a beginner.
What's your budget? My suggestion would be spend the most on a decent rod, and save on the reel, a cheaper rod is okay, but makes casting more difficult. 90% of the first fish you catch on fly won't even result in you using your reel at all.
I've got loads of rods, hardy, sage, airflo's etc, what do I use, 10ft...#7 sigma, or my 9ft 6 or my 9ft all Sigm's shows how much I like them, John Norris has them at a great price.
All depends on where you're likely to be fishing, a #5 would be fine for a river but if you're likely to be fishing reservoirs and lakes then I'd suggest something heavier like a #7 and up to 10ft..... and the Sigma range will do you just fine, there are very few "duff" rods out there today.
@@IBandAndyFishing It seems like a fun rod to handle, for the right size fish - I wonder how a bow and arrow cast would work with it? One fine day when we are allowed to go fishing again in South Africa I can't wait to dust off my own little three piece Kiwi 3 weight and meet up with some trout and yellowfish.
Pardon my ignorance, but it was interesting to see you release a rainbow back to a river, I always assumed you must kill them if caught within a river system in the UK?
IB and Andy Fishing actually an interesting point of discussion this for you , you should do a Q and A on it. As I tried to google too but not much came up, apart from the River Wye is the only UK river where there are “wild” rainbows that are deemed to be fine to stay there. Where as in Scotland every river and Loch association insist rainbows must be killed to protect the native species! To the point where last year, thousands of rainbows escaped from a farm on Loch Etive and made their way into the River Awe system, people were asked and allowed to go fish for free, any method, to remove them! Sorry for the long reply. It is just an interesting topic of discussion.
Great wee video!! 😊 Looked like a real challenge to cast that tiny rod!!!! 😜 On that subject, can you recommend any 6/7ft rods? My local river is pretty small with lots of trees for me to lose my flies in, not to mention making casting a real effort!! I've been thinking a lot lately about getting a small rod so any tips would be much appreciated!! 😁
I think if I were to seriously get in to the very small stream stuff I'd go down the glass route just for the ease of loading. I must admit that at under 7' my knowledge of what's on the market isn't great. The Symbiosis is 7'6" and half carbon half glass, lovely rods - bit.ly/ScierraSymbiosis
when I edited the video I realised we didn't do much roll casting, I might have to get back to you on that one! In terms of angling advantages, very few I don't think. Maybe if you're in very overgrown tiny streams. The BB I think is as much a practice tool as a fishing tool
Hi there thanx for fly tying videos I'm starting do my own just let you know I'm used yours ebay,amzon links to buy lots stuff over £200.can you advice mi what am doing wrong when I'm euro nymphing I'm dragin on bottom but catching on and of drift couple fish never on first half of drift. Do I'm using to heavyweight?some time catching bottom of river but is normal.many thanx for you help and carry on you doing great job!!!!! Miroslav from Newcastle
One of the finest 2 wt rods ever made. It’s so much fun and I’ve caught 24 inch rainbows on it. Enjoy. 1/2/3WT Fly Rod (Graphite IM10) 6'/6'6"/7'/7'6" Fly Fishing Rod Small Streamer
It's as much about honing a good cast as it is the fishing aspect of it. It isn't made for the type of fishing we're doing in this video, but I think we proved it's still very capable!
I’m with IB on the fact that I’m also use to a 9 foot 7WT fly rod to punch through all the wind we have to contend with. That aside, it was really exciting to watch Andy land that fish which was half the size of the rod. So if Andy’s day job is being a guide, when I book a flight across the pond to visit the, “Land Of My Ancestors”, I want Andy as my guide for English Fly Fishing simply because HE KNOWS HOW TO CATCH FISH. 😀
really kind bud, thank you so much! I sometimes know how to catch fish!
Great, honest effort and opinion,
Glad you liked it
Really good video guys im new to the fly fishing scene so it helps me watching ye fish and the techniques ye use
We probably weren't at our best with the Baby Brook Alex, some sketchy technique going on here!
@@IBandAndyFishing ya probably not but definitely entertaining 😂
Love IB passion for fishing and how much she admires the fish 🙌🙌🙌🎣🎣🎣🎣
Couldn't agree more! - AB. Thanks for watching!
Lol even though I've seen garden gnomes with bigger rods cant help myself wanting to have a go looks good fun
I thought it was great, had a total blast! IB not so much!
18 years ago I took a rod building class. The guy holding the class had these fly rod 5ft 3wt. So thats what I had to make and I've been creek banging ever since. They are hard to cast and control the line on the water. Great video lovex seeing the struggle and its not just me lol
Very cool! I imagine you make it look a little easier than we do!
@@IBandAndyFishing not the first hand full of times. The casting I had to seek help from a very good casting friend, good experience there to.The line control on the water for me was the hard part. I've also moved it to fishing only small streams and creeks, thats where it excels.
Very good video and brought back some fond memories of the struggles I had and again great video loved it
Aww you took ya little baby out how cute great video and awesome fish. Im wagling my rod at you as i type 😂😂😂 looking forward to seeing your next video
Thanks Stephen!
You guys are great. i just started fly fishing.
That outfit really appeals to my unusual kit obsession...!
Great film as always, nice work. 🤘🤘🤘
It really sharpens you up bud, there's nowhere to hide in terms of technical ability!
IB and Andy Fishing I better not get one then! 🤣🤣🤣
Jeez guys the Baby Brook looked a challenge....really well done I reckon...🤔🤔👍👍
Hi Andy n IB , well done andy nice casting,but im with IB on this one think i will stick with my full length rod thanks, good vidio keep making then, thanks alan.
Well done guys another great vid and fishing with a wand 👏 nice fish again for you both 😃
Glad you enjoyed it David!
Great video and laugh at 02:37am...(myself and insomnia had a good laugh) .... I recognise the area near the bridge... that was my fish on the opposite bank....lol.....as usual you guys rock.....:-) :-)
Yes it was! Good spot!
I have a Maxcatch #1 6ft rod, and its great fun..... alot of fun for very little money and great for tight spaces and overgrown streams.....
I wouldnt change it now, If you havent tried one, I suggest you do!
As I am an instructor I would politely suggest you practice on a grass space to develope the technique required,ie.using rod flex and double hauling the line.
Funny enough, I bought a combo kit to learn to fly fish with. I think it was 8.5’.
Anyways, I couldn’t figure out how to cast that thing, and ended up breaking it in the back of my buddy’s truck before I could use it.
Fast forward to now, I just put the reel on an old bingo bug rod that I have. That rod is my favourite already, I use it everywhere the wind cooperates. Now that I put that fly reel on it, I can cast it better than with the original rod.
I think IB did a good job, to be fair.She did way better than I would have with it...
Once she got used to it she cast it nicely, it's a big adjustment though!
Don't worry IB, I'm bl**dy awful with any type of fly-rod! Great video guys as always.
Surely this rod would be ideal for somewhere like the river East Allen where I fish that is only a metre or two wide and has trees covering the area. So with longer rod the trees get more flies than the trout.
Ha ha great video, it's all about having fun and you guys smash it lol
The dynamic duo well done both of you i fish a 4ft 3# fly rod i use it on very small urban streams fantastic for that situation it's really difficult to go from a long rod to a very short rod i thought you did well andy very well IB struggled and to be honest i can understand why she did struggle plus the wind never helped but IB landed a nice wild brownie well done IB the bend in that baby brook was terrifying really enjoy the video good fun well done the dynamic duo,these small rods are fantastic on small urban streams.Para
I definitely think there's a time and place for this rig, it just wasn't where we were trying to fish it. That said when you get it right it really zings a line out!
I really enjoyed this video. Using a rod that you weren’t familiar with which put your casting techniques to the test is a great idea. I think you both did really well. Well done! XX
So it did become a long nose mole
Great video again👍. How I.B never swore when casting I don't know 😂🎣👍
believe me, this was a very heavy edit...... - AB
@@IBandAndyFishing 😂
Hi IB & Andy, you show fly fishing as it should be.....Fun, competitive camaraderie, shared humour when things don't go to plan and joy when they do. I think I also would have struggled using this rod for the first time. very impressed with the lack of any beeps in this video, How far were you trying to cast ?
This was a big edit, we both did plenty of bleeping at times!
Most of the casts were sub 50', but with about 15' of leader which made it tough, especially when that wind got up for IB
@@IBandAndyFishing I think you did well to persevere with this, I would have needed to limit myself to about 30' and reduce the leader, but you gave the rod a real test. Very much enjoying your Vlogs, keep up the good work, it's much appreciated.
Nice!
Just got this today. Can't wait to try it at our local "river" which is tiny and totally overgrown
Fair play fishing a rod that's going to throw you a curve ball, not a small brook you fished either was it? I recon Andy had two big advantages, taller and experience. That looks ideal for small waters. Loving the honesty of the review guys, another great vid
I agree, I think my long arms definitely help, plus I've used most of the other practice rods on the market and understand how differently they work to a normal outfit.
Damn. That is an odd rod for sure... Smallest I have is a 5 ft 2wt. For real real small tight brooks and catching like 3 to 4 inch bookies... That was a great video though. I think the challenge of that shorty rod was definitely in the casting but also in the mending and manipulation of the line. I really think you both did great!! Thank you for another awesome video!! I may look into getting that outfit as a back pack tool to add when I am prospecting. Be safe and keep them lines tight!!
It presents a whole range of challenges, but definitely yes once things have landed there's very little you can do in terms of line/ drift management!
In my opinion , short rods for tight rivers/stream and small fish. I fish very small rivers which you couldnt use a 9' rod.
Andy should not have left the extra tippet on for I.B. Made casting more difficult in that wind
What's the first tip you would give to someone fishing the river wye for the first time just a curious question 😊
Andy, I’m curious if you’ve read the book, CHALK STREAM, SALMON & TROUT FISHING by Charles Bingham? It’s an older book, but the kind that inspires me to want to come visit the UK. If I’m not mistaken, it might even be part of the Fly Fishing International Series. 😇
That's not one I've read buddy, no - a good read?
I’m really enjoying it, yes. It’s the kind of book which makes me want to go there with my fly rod. Also, that “Zap-A-Gap” you turned me onto in one of your videos REALLY WORKS. My knots have never been great by any means, but a single drop of it can not only keep clinch knots from coming undone, but also kept the sole from an older shoe of mine from completely falling apart. The thing is, I had never even heard of it before seeing you use it in one of your videos. Sort of makes me wonder what else I have yet to learn. But the content you have been providing really has been therapeutic, and particularly at times when we’ve been stuck at home and can’t quite make it out on the water. I also have enjoyed watching the competitive spirit between the both of you. My spouse who happens to be able to do anything I teach her better than myself just received a 6WT Reddington Crosswater fly rod combo for Christmas, and I’m very much looking forward to seeing which one of us can catch more fish, with a view to eventually flying across the pond to fly fish on some English Chalk Streams. 😇
Fab video. Andy - when you mentioned fishing your 10' #4 overweight does this relate to line rating or something else? Thanks. Keep up the good work both of you - IB - it's great for my daughter to have a female role model in fishing 👍
I would love to have a micro fly fishing rods like that where can I get me one of those
Hi guys, would like to see it tried with a #4 line or a Barrio SLX #3, for a practice/fun rod it would have to be cheap, can't see many flying off the shelves. Are the rainbows stocked? if so what are your thoughts on stocking wild brown waters with 'Bows?
Next time I take it out I'm going to overline it by one and put a slightly lighter reel on the back of it - I think there's a really nice rod in there somewhere.
Regarding the rainbows, they're stocked in the dove yes. Not my cup of tea personally, the river produces some really big wild browns and grayling and in my opinion doesn't require stocking at all.
Is there such a thing as the best rod in the world?
Watching the rod on your cast I'd say it would be better overlined Andy?
It's an interesting little outfit that amplifies every timing error in your cast. I originally thought there needed to be one more guide on as I kept getting a loop of line before the tip ring. I then tried casting with out the reel and that problem disappeared. I've since loaded the line on a Wychwood River & Stream 2/3, at a third of the weight, and it feels a lot better. The Traxion 1 2/4 would have been a better choice of reel.
That's exactly what we said after the day, I think I'm going to overline it by a size too. It's pretty hard to carry any line in the air with it, some having a bit more mass to shoot with might help things along. To be continued!
@@IBandAndyFishing I've tried a DT4 which just created a different set of problems, but I'll let you try and see what you think. I think the best thing to do is flail about over grass with it until you get the hang of it, then go fishing with it.
Hi folks my wife has gone nuts I've decided to take up fly fishing so I am looking at the Shakespeare sigma fly rod combo preferably a 9-ft 5 weight' would this be ok for a beginner.
What's your budget? My suggestion would be spend the most on a decent rod, and save on the reel, a cheaper rod is okay, but makes casting more difficult. 90% of the first fish you catch on fly won't even result in you using your reel at all.
Perfect
I've got loads of rods, hardy, sage, airflo's etc, what do I use, 10ft...#7 sigma, or my 9ft 6 or my 9ft all Sigm's shows how much I like them, John Norris has them at a great price.
All depends on where you're likely to be fishing, a #5 would be fine for a river but if you're likely to be fishing reservoirs and lakes then I'd suggest something heavier like a #7 and up to 10ft..... and the Sigma range will do you just fine, there are very few "duff" rods out there today.
I would also add that the best quality fly line you can afford will make a massive difference to.
I wouldn't get one however for small overgrown streams it could be handy.
it's definitely got a time and a place, a very functional little bit of kit!
@@IBandAndyFishing It seems like a fun rod to handle, for the right size fish - I wonder how a bow and arrow cast would work with it? One fine day when we are allowed to go fishing again in South Africa I can't wait to dust off my own little three piece Kiwi 3 weight and meet up with some trout and yellowfish.
Pardon my ignorance, but it was interesting to see you release a rainbow back to a river, I always assumed you must kill them if caught within a river system in the UK?
Not as far as I'm aware no - certainly a quick Google search came up blank!
IB and Andy Fishing actually an interesting point of discussion this for you , you should do a Q and A on it. As I tried to google too but not much came up, apart from the River Wye is the only UK river where there are “wild” rainbows that are deemed to be fine to stay there. Where as in Scotland every river and Loch association insist rainbows must be killed to protect the native species! To the point where last year, thousands of rainbows escaped from a farm on Loch Etive and made their way into the River Awe system, people were asked and allowed to go fish for free, any method, to remove them! Sorry for the long reply. It is just an interesting topic of discussion.
Have you ever caught a grayling in the summer
Hi Joe, of course yes, we just put them back super quickly 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing thanks.I was just wondering because there is no grayling in ireland keep up the good work
How IB managed all of those casts in the first pool without more profanity I’ll never know 🤣
Hmm. I think I'm on a better behaviour when Andy is around 😂
Lee wulff devised the circle cast for casting very short rods check it out 👍
Great wee video!! 😊 Looked like a real challenge to cast that tiny rod!!!! 😜
On that subject, can you recommend any 6/7ft rods?
My local river is pretty small with lots of trees for me to lose my flies in, not to mention making casting a real effort!! I've been thinking a lot lately about getting a small rod so any tips would be much appreciated!! 😁
I think if I were to seriously get in to the very small stream stuff I'd go down the glass route just for the ease of loading. I must admit that at under 7' my knowledge of what's on the market isn't great. The Symbiosis is 7'6" and half carbon half glass, lovely rods - bit.ly/ScierraSymbiosis
lol... that was brilliant..
How well does the rod roll cast ?
Is there much advantage to having such a short rod ?
when I edited the video I realised we didn't do much roll casting, I might have to get back to you on that one!
In terms of angling advantages, very few I don't think. Maybe if you're in very overgrown tiny streams. The BB I think is as much a practice tool as a fishing tool
Think it might have helped if you tried hauling! Rod obviously not for distance casting
It might be fun in the garden. Do you sell it, Andy?
Not directly Tim no, but you can find them at either of these links:
Ebay: bit.ly/BabyBrook
Amazon: amzn.to/3huROoC
Hi which net is it that Andy uses?
That's the net ruclips.net/video/R2oQhqWcJFM/видео.html
@@IBandAndyFishing thanks
That looks bloody dangerous b
Hi there thanx for fly tying videos I'm starting do my own just let you know I'm used yours ebay,amzon links to buy lots stuff over £200.can you advice mi what am doing wrong when I'm euro nymphing I'm dragin on bottom but catching on and of drift couple fish never on first half of drift. Do I'm using to heavyweight?some time catching bottom of river but is normal.many thanx for you help and carry on you doing great job!!!!! Miroslav from Newcastle
Does IB want to come salmon fishing in Scotland?
YES. YES I DO!!!
I.B.
Where can I find that combo?
🔥
Be nice to see a 6ft version, the action looked lovely .
I agree, I'll feed it back
Ib that is like my longes carst
I can't get Scierra fly rods from anywhere at the moment. Any ideas? I'm looking for a 2#
Where are you based Noel?
@@IBandAndyFishing Cambridge, UK
These guys have the 7' 2# in stock - bit.ly/BrookRods
@@IBandAndyFishing Thanks. Tried to buy it, but they say "The seller's shop is closed for holidays"
One of the finest 2 wt rods ever made. It’s so much fun and I’ve caught 24 inch rainbows on it. Enjoy. 1/2/3WT Fly Rod (Graphite IM10) 6'/6'6"/7'/7'6" Fly Fishing Rod Small Streamer
Why use such a short rod unless in tiny creeks? I used to fish the old Hardy long fly rods but now fish 8-9' rods
It's as much about honing a good cast as it is the fishing aspect of it. It isn't made for the type of fishing we're doing in this video, but I think we proved it's still very capable!
IB and Andy Fishing Very true! Thanks for clarifying that. A good casting style is important 🙂👍
That rod only fit for the bin.lol.👍
I can't wait to use it some more, IB not so much!
Hey guys I used to buy and sell fishing tackle could I send some for you to try mainly lures
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Wohooo! Thanks Sabrina!
I am confident that Andy will be able to throw the fly and with a mop. But why torment your so beautiful wife?
For Fun!
What style/length is your leader set up for a rod this size?