The whole argument that "it's easier for women to get sex" is bashed by one thing - quality and safety. Yeah, you can get it, but with a huge chance of being abused and taken advantage of, being unsatisfied and hurt. With the wide spread of porn sex turned very sadistic towards women, normalising a shit ton of things that shouldn't be normalised
Guess the porn stuff is a mirror of what already is going on. It's a type of media, so it reflects what society wanna see or be told. The "girl" pretending to be a "c*m addict" and be "whilling" to partake in any level of agression towards her to get that "sweet nectar" is sexy... "because we said so". Of course, porn also tell us what to like from time to time...
@@ViniSocramSaint don't remember who said it (and have rough time translating from my native language) but "how to make society to view any violence and derogatory acts towards women as normal? Just say they were having sex in that time"
@@Andrewbait you claim that guys self esteem is ruined whilist it's almost impossible to find a pair where the guy looks better than woman. Even those, who would certainly be considered "ugly and undatable" if they were women, usually have a pair that is much above them . Doesn't add up, don't you think?
I used to get mad until I realized, I HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO I DATE OR TALK TO AND ACCEPT! Ladies we don't have to lay and date males like this. They can run game, doesn't mean i have to play with them.
I agree. But the problem is that men like that can still be our teachers, bosses and doctors. They'll not only treat us lesser than men/boys, they also won't take us seriously and we have no control over it. That is why it's still an issue anyways.
If you look at the videos these types of guys put up where they hit on women or demonstrate how to hit on women, I would say with the game their running, you wouldn’t be too interested. Some would say they have no game
And another thing… there are women who are coping with sexual trauma, and I dare say healing and finding a way to coexist with men again can be an excruciating process if a man was involved. I know… and I don’t see how trying to date during it all helps either party. I told my Dad and brother this when they suggested I get a man to feel more protected while dealing with the symptoms of the trauma (one being paranoia). So sick of the mansplaining. My answer… if all I need is a warm body, I’ll take a woman. Conversation done. Lol
My therapist told me the same thing. That the only way (I was 15) to overcome my fear of men after being SA'd by my father and a doctor was to engage with lots of men and to get a boyfriend and "experiment". Took me a long time to have any faith in therapy after that.
@@fawnieee So sry to hear that you’re dealing with all of that pain. I can’t imagine hearing that bs from a professional. It’s already hard enough opening the wound for the sake of therapy, but it’s worse when the doc turns out to be a phony. I suggest you make the library your best friend and read up on trauma. That’s been helping me. Right now I’m on Scared Sick: The Role of Childhood Trauma in adult disease. I don’t suggest reading this stuff before bed though. Maybe some Octavia Butler to take you away 😊
sexual trauma is no joke. Could you imagine what it might have felt like as a slave woman or man who had sexual trauma. I would of killed myself. The silent suffering you have to endure bc life simply moves on. Aging doesn't stop and men don't see you as a person. 😒
“Alpha” and “beta” are terms that were originally used to describe behavior in wolves during research. Later on, the scientist who originally coined the term to describe dominant and subordinate behavior in wolves disproved his own research and realized that the “alpha” wolf wasn’t bigger and more powerful due to some sexual je ne sais quoi or masculine character traits, it was because he was the dad of all the other wolves and baby animals usually follow their parents. Much of this manosphere bs is based on one disproved study.
I'm a 63-yr old white grandmother and I don't know how I found your channel, but I have to say you're truly amazing! You give me hope for our future. 🌹
If your hope is for the 1st world to fall, then yes, that's how it's going. Civilization prospers by families. These women won't produce families. They will burden society when they are old and nobody wants them.
I love Tee’s perspective on things, and as a lady in her 40s, it’s absolutely amazing and so inspiring how wise and ahead of her years she is in her thinking. I can only assume that Tee Noir was raised by strong, intelligent, passionate women. I love watching her content, too. 🫶
I just turned 18 and people around me started grooming me for marriage. It’s been horrible . I’m glad I found this channel as well. Saved me from a havoc. Have a great day ladies!❤❤
I used to be very insecure about my masculinity and so started listening to these alpha male podcasts and dating coach videos years ago in the hopes of getting “better results”. But even then I found their worldview very cynical and depressing. I was falling down a rabbit hole and thought “really? Are women this shallow and superficial and empty? But I know so many women who prove the opposite.” And when I put on the act of the alpha male, guess what, more dates. But also guess what, the type of women I’d date would only reinforce my biases and the deeper my insecurities would become. And then I got to a point where I said “You know wnat? I don’t care. I am going to figure myself out, get a psychologist, work out what my issues are, work on those issues and if someone can’t accept the parts about me that I like about me, then that is their loss, not my failing.” And you know what, once I started doing that and started treating women as people, not as these otherworldy angels or tools of my bodily enjoyment, suddenly I found all of these opportunities to meet and connect with women I’ve been looking for my whole life. These podcasts are nothing but poison exploiting the very real anxieties and problems of men.
Thank you! I've been suspecting this. These manosphere men just attract certain types of women - more likely unhappy, with low IQ or/and with low self-esteem and mental health issues, tolerant of abuse and abusive themselves. These women reinforce their stereotypes, but they are far from everyone out there. Smart, accomplished, and well-rounded women who usually are the best partners just don't respond to the "alpha male game" and avoid manosphere men, they aren't a part of their social circle and are invisible to them. And men who have these women as mothers and sisters aren't likely to engage with the manosphere in the first place. In addition, when a manosphere man happens to be confronted by a well-rounded accomplished woman, he does so much to deny her existence, accusing her of lies if she contradicts any stereotype with her words or facts about her life, basically shuts his eyes and ears and shouts over her. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. It is especially strange to me when mediocre men (as in - with average life achievements) look down on women's abilities, as if highly successful female doctors, scientists, professors, lawyers, politicians, etc. aren't everywhere around them.
I think it is quite odd that we as a society say that men's only weakness is their horniness. If anything, their empathy levels and self-centeredness and lack of real discipline are their weaknesses, not horniness for women. I think refusing to see women as whole human beings and the rejection of anything deemed feminine is what holds men, especially the manosphere ones back.
I agree. Horniness is not a human kryptonite and lack of sexual discipline especially needs to stop being considered a valid excuse for the very preventable mistakes a lot of people make.
@@christopherbrown5409 1. Same benefit masculinity ideals do. A mix of feminine and masculinity views are most beneficial. 2. Because empathy is something that humans (unless you lack empathy and thus need to be either be diagnosed or self evaluated) feel on a mental level. When you deem a person as someone who doesn't deserve empathy, you thus are in a mindset to dehumanize and justify wrongdoings towards. And not just a lack of empathy towards women, empathy in general towards everyone. If a woman gets assaulted, it's meant with (by women too, but mostly men) "well what were you wearing?" If a man gets assaulted he "should've enjoyed it". Why? Because men made those ideals. If the woman is assaulted, the men think that it was simply the woman tempted the men with her body. If the man was assaulted, men (typically involuntary incels) tell the guy to enjoy it because in their minds, sexual encounters with women are good regardless. Is this all men? Of course not, but these old ideologies take different forms depending on the time period.
I’m asexual so yeah definitely have a lot of other stuff affecting me jaja. But I do think horniness sucks idk they make me feel weird about being a man 💀
@@MahouShoujo-Studios 1. Someone who's pro-feminist respecting masculine ideals? I think Satan just discovered snow. 2. So you want men to serve and sympathise with abusive, disrespectful women, and further their sense of entitlement.
I remember when I was a university student 16 years ago. My favorite professor gave us a speech while contemplating a class full of girls with only 2 boys. "Years after years I see young women investing in their education while young men are diverging from it. I'm both happy and terrified for your future because you will challenge men's ego. Because you will be more educated they will says that you depreciate them. You will earn more and they will say that you don't know your place. There are a lot of psychological and physical violence to come. Young ladies be strong and stand your ground" What a prophecy...
Before I met my boyfriend I was genuinely starting to imagine myself as a 45 year old single, with no kids, and was totally okay with it. That was also the reason why I didn’t felt like I had anything to loose when we first started dating. I actively choose to be with him, not because of some pressure.
@@keandrethegoat1169 Everyone will die alone it only depends on your family, friends, social skills, etc. that will determine wether it will be sooner or later in life.
Whenever I see women worry about finding a partner and having kids, I look at my mom and other women her age and older who are without men: They are single and they are happy spending time with their families and (platonic) girlfriends. Men leave or die and in the end if you have family or friends you'll still be good. Create community and friendship and your life will always have purpose and joy.
I’m 21 and have never dated and I’m not worried about dying alone even tho some men like to use it as a threat 😂😂 like this isn’t the 40s, that’s not scary anymore. I actually don’t see myself dating but I’d like to work up the courage to try!!
This reminds me of when Kristen Stewart from Twilight cheated Robert Pattinson, people wanted her dead, they followed her in the streets cursing and threatening her. But when Jay z, Brad Pitt and so many other cheated their WIFES already with children, nobody thought twice, 'its just men' they say.
@@theothermoe321 absolutely true. They want a woman that doesn't know her worth so they can take advantage of her, they want a woman that's completely dependent on them with no self esteem or any desires other than following her "man", them, around. These men can't handle women that can be independent and want something more for themselves, it's why they constantly drag women down and say horrible things about them. These men have no self esteem and are so insecure the only woman they'd feel comfortable with is one that only feels her value comes from him. They want a slave that's completely controlled by them, not a human being that's an independent and equal partner.
It makes me uncomfortable to see men take femininity and claim it as something that they are in charge of. I value my femininity, but seeing other men use it as a way to measure a woman’s worthiness makes me uncomfortable and feel objectified. As a girl who just turned 18, it makes me nervous to even think about finding a partner and makes me subconsciously and consciously notice what I wear and how my body looks a lot more. I appreciate you talking about this.
Brooklyn wear whatever you want to wear, because they'll talk about you regardless. If your dress is down to the ground you're boring but if it's showing skin then you're a garden tool. These guys literally lack common sense. They take what these imbeciles say to heart and run with it. Don't let them make you feel less than because of their nonsense
Interesting you say that about femininity. I feel there is danger in thinking any one gender has monopoly on femininity, or any "energy" for that matter. I also struggle with the surveillance of gender altogether. But as a mostly feminine presenting woman myself, I can only say in theory, not in practice.
@@TeeNoir Yes, I agree. I was mainly talking from my perspective as a black girl and the duality of presenting myself more femininely and also feeling uncomfortable with the pressure to present myself femininely to be beautiful. I personally dress femininely because it is the style of clothing I like, but I get comments about how it is nice to have naturally feminine features and that it is still nice to see that girls are still choosing to present themselves in a way that warrants respect. I just want to be able to dress how I dress without being bothered, but I do feel intimidated in knowing that the way I dress influences people’s perceptions and treatment of me, especially in my experience men.
I think it’s weird how women are shamed for being more feminine, and how femininity is demonized in media. There will always be someone who doesn’t like what you have going on, and it’s hard to act like ppl’s opinions don’t matter bc they do, it sucks tbh.
This! They really have me out here just so hurt and angry. I had to quit Twitter bc I felt insane... Like does nobody else see this? Does nobody else see that the demographic responsible for the most violent shit on the planet is talking about women like dogs? In the age of a mass shooting a day? Where men do nearly all of the mass shooting? Am I going mad??
@@PrincessYonna1 They stay trying it, that seemingly “innocent” inquiry is nothing more than a wolf in sheep clothing, always leads to paragraphs of gaslighting, have seen it time and time again in the comment section.
On the contrary most of them are like “my mother is the only one”, “or every woman is a wh*re except her” or “I would do anything for her” and they still despise women. They are sick.
As a very skinny, not very masculine Mexican kid who couldn't get a gf growing up in Texas, I had to figure out allot of stuff about myself, for myself. It's so easy to get caught up in these toxic pits of masculinity as a weapon and defensive mechanism. And I only barely avoided it early on by inadvertently becoming the best friend and confidant to several girls. When I realized that kindness and friendship netted me the attention I craved, the toxicity just didn't hold any value. In retrospect, that's terrifying, because as a young teen you only know what you feel, and when you have full grown men reinforcing the idea that your anger and vitrial is justified, and that you are entitled to someone else, that's dangerous. Love without their will to choose so, there's a word for that, and like most of my female friends, I've also been subjected to it.
Woah. Relatable! Having friends that are women (without trying to date/have sex with them) has enriched my life so much and really helped me to avoid the Manosphere stuff I think. Patriarchy hurts women and other non-men the most ofc, but it hurts men too, to a lesser extent, because of the constant surveillance so expertly described here.
@@ADubbs-fd8xf I think having woman friends is essential, but I also think that denying that these men caught in a cycle are looking for love shouldn’t be supplemented with “just get a friend” a lot of that rhetoric just ends up pulling those men deeper in the manosphere because it’s not addressing their specific issues.
I was also a Mexican kid in Texas but I was raised in a relatively conservative Catholic home (and my father has some far right connections back home as I later found out) and for that I went fundamentalist about it especially in my college years, I wasn't looking to date at that time because I thought God wanted me to be a priest or a monk (besides I started developing very questionable views regarding women's rights so the only women I would've dated back then were the super devout TradWife types, back then I knew how limited my options were but I wasn't sure if I wanted kids while being among Catholics who refuse to use birth control of any kind and don't like Pope Francis) so although I almost fell into the alt-right rabbit hole around 2016 (thanks to internalized racism) I never really took the Manosphere seriously but I was sympathetic in their hatred for feminism and I was misogynistic in my own unique Catholic way (mainly that women had no place being anywhere close to the altar, as I would've used the Timothy quote as a justification, and that of course they had no right to have an abortion because the Church said so). It wasn't until after my faith in that religion fell apart two years ago when I started becoming an ally to the people I was hostile to because of my loyalty to the Church (so again mainly feminists and the LGBT+ community) and I'm very much glad there's channels like this one to explain what's wrong with the world, the segment about fundamentalist Christianity was all too familiar to me. However, one of the good things that came out of that time period is that I learned how to have platonic relationships with the opposite sex and even back then I was horrified by the suggestion that men and women can't be friends without dating, but shortly before I left I did start finally noticing some of the toxic masculinity that the theology I believed had (mainly the complimentarian BS but some extremist priests I listened to promoted really harmful ideas around marriage) and watching videos making fun of channels like Girl Defined and the Transformed Wife make me glad I left that lifestyle.
@@imanigordon6803 of course, simply seeing women from their own perspective isn't enough, allot of these men have deep issues, but as a kid, that initial perspective and sympathy prevented me from falling into the mindset. Although none of my male friends became incels themselves. They still maintained a genrally toxic view of women at the time, which I managed to overcome with introspection.
I can admit that a toxic flaw of mine was I didn’t care if a man was disrespectful towards other women as long as he respected me, in honesty I kind of liked it because at the time it fed my insecure need to feel special. Thing is those men will treat you just like how they do every other woman they disrespect the moment you “step out of line” with how they want you to behave. Glad I could wake up, now I refuse to be with any man who refers to women as b*t*hes or h*es or anything of the sort. They way they talk about other women is a HUGE identifier of who they are no matter how “kind and respectful” they are towards you.
There’s this quote that James Baldwin said in his book “Here Be The Dragons, or the Freaks and the American Ideal of Manhood” that there is androgyny in every single one of us. Not in terms of physical nature but in mental and emotional behavior. We all have a combination of both masculinity and femininity. It’s apart of us. I believe we can’t suppress nor shouldn’t oppress that because it causes an imbalance within ourselves. When I hear this bs of alpha males and beta males, I roll my eyes and walk away. It’s crazy how these men who endlessly rant on their podcasts about a women’s looks, standards, and their values and confuse and conflate themselves to be an “alpha male”, are just showcasing their incel-ish insecurities. “Alpha males” don’t do that. There is literally no such thing as the alpha male.
Exactly! It baffles me how so many people make it seem like you have to be either masculine or feminine when its not that black and white. But its true what Tee said, a lot of us have been indoctrinated to think that all these different traits or features are assigned to a specific group of people and that if you don't comply you're bothered, worst if you try to break away from it then they shame you even more. :(
Absolutely agree. Was just discussing this with a friend of mine the other day. Every person waking this planet is half woman (their mother) and half man (their father). We are all, all in one
Carl Jung came up with the terms anima and animus many years ago. The anima is the feminine part found within the masculine. The animus is the masculine part found within the feminine. Think of the yin yang symbol from Chinese philosophy. The white represents the masculine. There is a small spot of black within the white. That is the feminine energy found within the masculine. The black represents the feminine. There is a small spot of white that represents the masculine energy found within the feminine.
Even the most handsome hot guy gets rejected. You're a new kinda idiot. This is why men and women can't communicate. Reread what you just said. No one is above rejection. And no one ever says your gonna get the men you want, even if you're xyz, you know that's not the saying. It's, because you're a woman and that's between your legs you'll get men regardless. Don't mean they are gonna love you or treat you right but you have an advantage over men in generally. Open your ears and listen.
With my experience, what hurts the most is not just the crass, disgusting and illogical 'Alpha Male' garbage being spurred online, but the casual, subtle sexism I have to endure on the regular by the people I am forced to live with and tolerate. For me, my brothers may not seem misogynistic on the surface, but it's the little moments that unnerve me. When they some shit like "Of course it's a woman" or "A man wouldn't go behind someone's back because it is a man's nature to be up front" or "Feminism is nonsense. Women have nothing to complain about". Moments like these just make me roll my eyes. My brothers really had the nerve to come to me and say shit like that, where I have felt disgusting in my own body from I was twelve when random men would look at me a certain way or say the most obscene things. They complain that men have it harder, but that's not the point. The point is that as human beings we all struggle, but asshats like my brothers disregard the struggle of that other half of humanity just by making everything gendered. It drives me crazy because men like my brother are able to make some backwards thinking sound sensible through the way they manipulate language. And I have to ignore it or zip my mouth because the last time I went up against my brother, this family nearly went upside down. I feel like these women in the podcasts. They are not siting down in silence and nodding because they are in agreement. It's because of the obvious imbalance of power that they find inescapable. When I argue with them, I'm the one who is made the ungrateful and naïve fool. I'm the one who needs to learn my place. I'm the one who needs to show them respect they have never earned.
I felt every word that you typed and I have to say this is one of the reasons why a lot of smart women are single. How can you live or marry a man that thinks that way. My child father thinks this way. When our only child turned three I packed up and left(baby too). I told him I ONLY want to co parent. NOTHING more NOTHING less. I would rather be broke and alone than deal with that issh. Find someone who wants to be ruled. I want a partner. Till this day he is bitter af and blames me for all his problems. Takes no accountability for nothing. Told me I'm going to have to raise our child alone. Smh that's what I walked away from. You don't want to waste your time arguing with certain type of ppl. These "Alpha" are one of "those kind" of ppl. you Just shake your head yes until you find an exit. No one have to put up with this kind of behavior. People need to know when to walk away for good but you would have to love your self to do that.
Men do have it harder there's no question you want 1 sided empathy from men while you call is toxic behind our backs those days are over feminism now has a response
@@WARxxECONOMY Every gender has their own issues. It is not a competition. I guarantee you if you got to spend a couple months as a woman, you would switch back as soon as possible and vice versa. Everyone's life is hard but if the women in your life are calling you toxic then you're the common denominator here
Thank you for talking about how the Handmaid's Tale hardly mentions Black women. I am a cishet black male, and I read that book years ago in High school for a Gender Studies class. I didn't get along with the white female teacher at the time, and I remember specifically not caring for the book. None of my white female classmates would ever challenge themselves to think about what enslaved Africans went through ad how much it parallels what happened in the futuristic society.
So true. That book & especially that TV show are poster children for white woman feminism. Many fail to realize that the atrocities written in the book are (in some form or another) already happening to BIPOC women
We were even written out the book entirely. The book called us “The Children of Ham” and it was phrased as if we went back to “Africa”. Even though the likelihood is we were likely killed 🙄
In the book Gilead is much more explicitly racist so there are no black handmaidens. It's implied black people were killed off in the purges or had to escape. Although it make sense for the movements Gilead was based on the TV show wanted to have black people in the main cast so they softened the racism of it.
that is by design. upper middle class white women actively try and maintain a racial hierarchy in female representation and especially female beauty standards. this behavior outright qualifies as white nationalist politics. we should all begin to say that out loud, for it is the (very) ugly truth.
As a boy I put my self in a woman’s shoes and see how I would feel If I was told my only purpose was to be married and have children and it’s awfull I heavily disagree with that belief
When a Man feel the need to put Women in "their place", he is usually seeing Women as a threat, or a competition! Real Men see Women as someone who can enhance them in their life!
This topic is one of the biggest "god, where do we even begin to unpack this" sort of things to me and you managed to tackle it beautifully (as well as your guests). One element of the video I do want to comment on, as an agnostic person, is that Foreign killed it with the religious part of the discussion. I feel like people are very hesitant to discuss this out of fear of "disrespecting" religion but ultimately... it's faith-based ideology that has an impact on the world. It shouldn't be free from criticism and we shouldn't shy away from acknowledging its guiding force in these issues just because it's treated as fact by some people. I love that your guests were able to acknowledge religion's place the patriarchy while remaining respectful (to me, at least). I hope that element of the conversation makes more people step back and acknowledge how harmful these texts and their interpretations can be without being (legitimately) hateful towards the people that believe in them.
I think people take it out of context to suit their own beliefs and then use that as validation for something that is ultimately wrong or not even an accurate representation of what the religion represents. But I definitely understand your poiny
@@loisosei9634 Eh, it’s definitely the text itself AND the way it’s been interpreted but I didn’t mean to start any back and forth on beliefs so we can agree to disagree about that.
Being an aromantic asexual woman, I have heard it all from guys. Everything from "Don't you get lonely?" to "Aren't you afraid of dying alone?" I even heard this from women. Being aro/ace has been a blessing and a curse for me. A blessing because it allowed me to see through the BS indoctrination women are subjected to about relationships/marriage. But a curse because of the social scrutiny and alienation I deal with. Either way, I'm glad I woke up.
If you don't care about being in relationships then way are you watching a video about male female dynamics in a relationship. Sounds like you want to be in a relationship but you are scared or not confident that you can be in a relationship with someone else.
@@myke6135 Aro/ace does not mean you don't care to be in relationships. Why are you trying to interrogate and judge before understanding is the better question.
I get the same thing just for being single. They don't even care why, only that I'm not dtf at all times so therefore something must be "wrong". It's so strange that ppl would attempt to use fear to garner sex and submission. Like, that's what authoritarian regimes do. That's what these men want? So it doesn't matter if I love or even LIKE you? Just as long as I'm afraid and insecure enough to have sex with you as a means of keeping you around? I don't get it. Also, I have a family, genuine & intimate friendships that are long standing. I'm not lonely. I'm going to die surrounded by ppl that actually care for me because I bothered to cultivate human connections and not just the appearance of them. So for the ppl that say things like that to me - I really just pity them.
As a former Kevin Samuels disciple that ruined a few relationships with that doctrine, a lot of men within the manosphere can benefit from some therapy. Much of the manosphere is built upon men’s personal trauma, insecurities, fear and exploitation. Much of the community lacks empathy, perspective and the idea that women are more than what they believe or are shown. These men are just as complex as women because humans have dimensions and aren’t general beings. I stopped watching these podcasts, worked on my own issues and shortcomings through therapy more than a year ago & have had better luck and relationships with women since. I appreciate this video
@@letssgo1921 sure but typically he says that to the women he speaks to. Mr Samuels and creators within the manosphere speak on the hurts of men and elude to trauma but rarely recommend therapy for their male audience. Because frankly, if these young men were to get professional help to navigate the hurts, fears, insecurities and trauma that creates communities like the manosphere they would lose money and viewers. Keep the patient sick so they always have a hospital to pay. It’s a cycle. That’s why rather than a manosphere there should be a push for men’s mental health and emotional wellness.
@@paulbessmanii4975 he says it to everyone who he thinks needs it. He himself talks about the benefits therapy did for him on several occasions. It's unnecessary for you to speculate on the desires of the manosphere as a whole. And their knowledge and experience. Kevin Samuel who had been through therapy recommended it the people who haven't don't. It's that simple. You can claim there should be a push for men's mental health but until society recognizes the humanity of men they will keep flocking the manosphere for answers.
The advice is usually buried. Most men gravitate to this content after being hurt or dissatisfied in trying to find a woman... The advice is to find and focus on their purpose and working hard and leave women alone unless they approach u
@@shaynacameron4530 it’s an analogy objects break and are sometimes unreliable. I look at the mind of a woman now but previously before maturity and experience I looked at mainly body parts (objects) of a woman which is the state of man in mass lol this is why these podcasts exist . Wife the mind of her not her trunk . don’t blame the lil bros who haven’t found the light yet blame the world because young girls & older woman wear it out and males, men, boys are visual creatures u can’t change that ie: men want beauty , stability for women. U don’t want a homeless man do you?? I got the money for it so I’d definitely fw a homeless woman if her mind right and she fine 😭
@@michiganrico2802 Honestly I wouldn't date a homeless man simply because that wouldn't be a normal relationship, imagine someone worrying about the relationship whilst not being in a stable environment
@@shaynacameron4530 see exactly that’s the difference what’s a MAN that’s homeless worrying about a relationship for that’s weird but a woman struggling homeless would get scooped from me and I’d provide for her if like I said she met the metrics that I wanted in a woman . I’d literally get her life stable! Lol this is what the podcasts are for pointing out reality in mating strategies for the opposing genders .. “in general” a GOOD MAN and a GOOD WOMAN move different and if you look deep enough through the messages these guys have that’s what it really comes down to
*the amount of men from all ages ,races and backgrounds that jumped on Kevin post when he past all blaming their dads for running out and moms for raising them is beyond me like the amount of men that sat up and said Kevin was their dad figure just spoke volumes it's like men run out on their sons then get mad when their sons are only being raised by women like wtf who else suppose to try and raise rhe child since u left*
True and when they come back they get the chance to try and if it doesn't work then they can say I'm just not good enough to raise a child..The mother can't do that, it was never a choice for her, it was a responsibility she gained the moment the child was born. The fact that most men are given a choice is absurd.
It's like, would they have cared so much about a non-toxic coach that would have taught them what their dads never taught them? Or is the toxicity what makes attractive?
@@maheenm.k1015 apparently they pick and choose what to listen to because when Kevin would tell them about what men needed to do none of them cared they only gave a damn when he told women that they aren't shit
I briefly dated a guy in college who opened up to me one night about his childhood and how much he struggled after his dad left his family. By the end of the conversation he was telling me how he had forgiven his dad but couldn’t bring himself to forgive his mom. I asked what he needs to forgive her for…”for my dad leaving.” Did she tell him to leave? Did she cheat? Did she hurt him? “No.” Took me a while to date men again after that.
@@Lina32121 When we call them out the claim it as avoiding "accountability " when we are automatically accountable for carrying and caring for the child. The one who ISNT THERE is avoiding accountability🤦🏾♀️ They are dense or just dont want to change at all for the better and tbh its scary and weird as hell bro
As a child I've always heard that feminism is evil and that women are ungrateful, and that's the way God wants the world to be.. and guess what I'm arab.. and you know women in the middle east and north africa are suffering from a lot of things (sometimes if your parents are supporting your education and don't force you to marry before 18 you should consider yourself lucky) .. the funny thing is when I start recognizing these double standards and that the way they treat women in my society is wrong, I always looked at America like the perfect place for women where everyone's treated like a human being regardless of gender ..but when I start learning English, and hearing about this alpha male BS and the manosphere..shaming women for having opinions on things and how they see women as objects and not humans I was shocked, let me tell you USA/EUROPE are a WAAAAY better place for women than where I live(at least there's no "honor" killing, no old men marrying minors, domestic violence is not acceptable...), but women hatred is still exist and sometimes just covered..I can't even tell my older sisters that I'm feminist and that women should not be treated that way and that wanting equal rights doesn't mean that I'm ungrateful and wicked, they're brainwashed, imagine a lot of men here talk just like the fresh and fit podcast dudes casually and it's accepted, I will try my best to educate myself about this and be independent financially and I will NEVER put myself at the mercy of a man who sees me as a subhuman. Thank you sm for your videos and I'm srry for my English I'm still learning 💗🙏 ladies (and especially in countries like mine) be strong 💪 💓
Arab countries and some African countries definitely need to change. Women are really not treated well there. And i believe as women we can decide what we tolerate and what we don’t tolerate. All these men out there disrespecting women are a woman’s son and carried and created in her body for 9 months. That alone should be enough reason for much more respect. We can raise them differently any time. But when they become old it’s too late.
I'm south american. Women here don't live like Arab or African countries, but the violence against women is rampant. I fully believe it would be even worse if the offenders could get away with it. I sickens me to see men pushing this narrative, they want to backtrack on all women's right. And it really saddens me to see women supporting it. Sincerely hope women in these countries can conquer their rights. And women here don't lose theirs.
On the Handmaid's Tale part-- I am almost POSITIVE there is record of the author, on being questioned on how she came up with this story, saying that she was able to write all of it because it has happened before. the author herself is literally saying that this is a reality!
It says In the back of the book (acknowledgements/notes section I think) where she got all of her inspiration including firsthand experience of the soviet Union operating when she was in Berlin before the fall of the Wall. Thats where the eyes and culture of mistrust among neighbours and friends who could "tell on you" at any moment came from. There was inevitably some inspiration from the Nazi ss agents for that as well I'm sure
I did one video about dating for Black women. One. And boy did my comment section blow TF up with "alpha males" with something to say! It's exhausting. I had to go hard on my comment filter. I always wonder how you manage to keep your channel zen. 🙏🏾 You did that girl
It's so strange that these alpha men think that a woman should be the archetype of compassionate and nurturing because that's what they're "bred to do" but also will turn around and argue that women feel nothing for men and use them as they please. Which one is it?
I have the same fear. I’m not ashamed of wanting children, my body is naturally made for it. However, I’m willing to be ok with not having them if these are the kind of men that’s available. I’ll never risk my life for this kind of trash.
This “alpha” and “beta” male discussion in our community just sounds so corny to me. Everyone just wants to be heard, respected and acknowledged. If you need a woman to treat you like a daddy than just admit that. Those women are available but don’t be surprised when you start realizing that shit is really one sided🤷🏽♀️
I feel like they truly don’t know what they want. Because how can you want a submissive stay at home woman but also get upset when you have to take care of her every need because she’s completely dependent on you. Honestly sounds like they want a pet.
You got it wrong my g. You can do that to a girlfriend and wife without being a simp. But when you give just some random woman or friend those same benefits with the intent of dating her but you're too scared to ask or if she rejected you already that's when you're a simp because you only doing it to impress and date her it ain't genuine. Either the way you heard it was stupidly wrong or you just cappin.
@@sso4449 Constanly calling a woman beautiful, praising her existence, and trying any and everything to impress her is not showing respect. Respect looks more like treating someone like a human being and not their rare source of ass.
@@sso4449 Yes. When you have ulterior motives to that and if either the writing is on the wall that the woman is less reputable or the goal is s*x and nothing beyond that, it's predatory.
@@xLamont_ Most usages of SIMP don't follow its original definition because it went mainstream, when it went mainstream people have been using it for almost any and everything a man does involving a woman.
I feel equal parts pity, disgust and fear when ever I come into contact with the manosphere. I kinda hate that I can't help but pity them, knowing they would never offer such sympathy to me.
I’m learning that I have to avoid those videos for my own sanity! What’s worse is the rise of female panderers who are just pick-me’s in disguise. If we truly had people of both sexes speaking to their own sex about how we can come back together as a community, we could make some progress.
Literally so many mentions of handmaids tail lately, seriously so many people have yet to make the connection that its based on events that ALREADY happened.
There's a commentary on incel ideology that needs to happen in the black community. But for us to even stage that, we need to acknowledge not only misogynoir but how restrictive and harmful binary thought can and has been when it comes to gender.
Absolutely!!!! And frankly.... I feel like the community as a whole is being highjacked by these fools to the point where me and several of my black friends are actively wondering if we'll ever be able to find good black partner. I don't want to generalize but at the same time... A good non-religious, feminist, LGBTQIA++ friendly black men is hard to find in these streets XD
In college as a naive 21 year old I fell for this shit hook line and sinker. I was conservative and religious. I wanted kids and these ideologies led me to believe I wanted 5+ kids with a like-minded person. Thank goodness I finished law school without getting barefoot and pregnant. I got treated for depression and got a good job. Now career is on track and I'm a childfree, feminist cat lady. These manosphere bros depend on manipulating impressionable young people.
So how are you now mentally? And how old are you this is an interesting response in what seems to be the dismantling of the family structure for the future moving forward.
My co worker's family member just killed a week ago by the hands of someone she was involved with romantically and sadly she was found by her children. I know not all black men are bad but the ones who hate women especially there own kind is like so soul crushing. Wont go into to much detail out pf respect but her last moments was a nightmare from what my coworker said.💔😣
I can't consume this kind of content as a "cringe-fest" the way some men (and women, rarely) can because it's so beyond just "cringey". it's vile, cruel and these perspectives on women and their "place" are a lot more prevalent than any of us realize. I have no faith in the patriarchy being dismantled in my lifetime and watching those videos just affirms that belief.
I would agree but those guys being azzholes get way more girls than i can, i only had like 3 gfs and im 26, that means theres a bunch of azzhole women like them and thats way more then im getting
@umar b patriarchy is constructed by men thus it’s men’s responsibility to dismantle it. Just like how racism is white peoples problem & not the responsibility of people of color. And women being paid less for their labor is still a real issue. There are reasons why women look for financial providers. Pay gap still exist even in developed countries & women still face the issue of lack of education and work opportunities outside the home in developing countries.
totally. ppl try to react to it in a funny way and make jokes about it but for me it’s too real to be funny. sure, these guys sound ridiculous and laughable to US, but when i see these men i know they have millions of followers, millions of other men who think like them. men you know, men u walk past every day. and it’s not just on the internet, many shootings are committed by ppl in the incel/red pill community, women are being murdered by their male partners daily. the effects of this rhetoric is real and it’s seriously effecting the younger generations of men growing up consuming this content. it makes me lose hope for humanity.
You know, I _might_ not have such an issue with "men taking care of women" if any of the men who pushed that idea *actually* did it... Edit: I see a lot of y'all can't read, so you just kinda made up some words that I didn't even write and chose to be mad about those. NOTED.
Lol they want to control you not take care of you because if that was the case we wouldn’t hv to choose they want you to be cripple in order to take care of you you can’t be independent it’s bullshit if your independent then that means in their brain your masculine
I have this feeling that many younger men think that working 40-50 hours is all they gotta do. I bet their own father did stuff after coming home from work and so many women also start to work when the kids are in school or kindergarten.... it's like at most 5 years they are the main bread winner. Also they associate protecting with literally physical protection when I think it has more to do with taking care of wife + kids the same way the mother is and if so cook for the family when mom can't or jusz stuff after birth. That is how you protect
Whenever I hear men use these code phrases such as “high value” or “alpha male”, I know exactly the type of guy he is. I’m so glad they give themselves away. This foolishness saves me so much of my precious energy.
These men made me a misandrist for a while. I had to do a lot of inner work to release my hate for men and realize that not all men are like that. Now I just pity those people who believe things like these. And the women that end up with them.
This is where F.D Signifier helped me a lot, as well as my own partner. We need to see more LOVING men and men who are passionate about harmless things. It’s the whole toxic masculinity issue I think. I respect men who show love, empathy and respect. Men who want to stand next to women.
I briefly dipped into this mindset after many bad experiences with men but coming back home to my brothers always reminds me that there is good respectful men out there. I hope there is a future where gender doesn’t play a prominent role in how people view each other
It can be such a struggle sometimes. I'm incredibly lucky to have grown up with a father and brother who believe in feminist principles and actually lived by them - I always have that example to fall back on when I feel overwhelmed by the amount of toxicity out there. Especially my dad who was raised in a very sexist environment in the 60s/70s but was still able to see through that and understand women were fully human the same way he was. It is possible for men to see through social conditioning. It is possible for men to have enough integrity to reject the privilege and power offered to them by patriarchal society and choose to engage with how that hierarchy affects others. Sadly it's pretty rare, and most women I know didn't have those examples and weren't shown that care and respect by men in their lives. It can be really hard to hold onto the idea of "not all men" if (almost) all the men you actually encounter in your environment are toxic. That's why it's important for the good men out there to speak up and show themselves - as an example for both young men and women who lack positive male role models.
@@iamahero3246 I think it depends and older not old men. Older also mean even an hour older. The ones with old men usually want something monetary or trying to fix her wounded inner child if she had a shit father figure.
So glad the manosphere bubble is being poked. Men who feel like a slave to their government need a way to channel that frustration and its often taken out on women.
@@kissit012 The government represents its OWN interests first and foremost which is why so many average men don’t feel truly represented even by an entity that is made up of “their kind”. The gender gap and where we fail to understand each other is created through this.
@@joelmartin5887 agreed. Emphasize class, race, gender & sex distinctions and let the in-fighting protect you from being overthrown by a unified collective.
I accidentally landed on an "alpha male" video where a guy asked his fellow "alpha males" which race of women was the least submissive... I'm pretty sure we all know who they chose. The question itself was already disgusting, but the comments answering were absolutely atrocious. However, the comment that caught my attention the most because it was ironic, was the black man that said "they're too busy trying to be men. It's because they don't have a father growing up, so their mothers have to be the man of the house. The daughters copy the mother." Even if we were to believe in that bullshit, he basically blamed black women for being "less submissive" due to their missing father figure...a black man. So if black daughters are "less submissive" due to lack of a father figure...wouldn't that make black sons...more submissive by lacking a father figure? How are they "alpha males" then? The mental gymnastics they have to play to justify their weird logic...
If men can't talk amongst each other without downing women and correcting men in their bullshit then I don't involve myself in it. Men should come together to bring solutions not worry about what women are doing
Solution is to understand why women do what they do. Knowing this nature will assist you as you pursue your purpose. That's the only solution for man, pursue your purpose
@Dee we need women to marry and have kids with, thats apart of a mans purpose … the whole point of manosphere is for men to tell eachother how to be better men , workout eat good invest money and find the qualified women who’s not for the world , its that simple … why isnt anyone calling out the bullshit that women do its always “men are trash men are that” when in fact HUMANS CAN BE TRASH and that there are good men and women out there ? Why cant men call out womens bullshit without being labeled a misogynist ? Where are the videos of women calling out the bullshit of the feminist agenda ? Lol
What freaks me out is there's no way in hell one of these guys doesn't beat their partners. And they're confidently spreading the potential partner beating ideology.
Don't blame abuser on Manosphere. Manosphere has actually highlighted the double standards and how more man are abused on the regular but yall won't care about that
Most of them fall into the dark triad personality types so I am not surprised. Others can actually heal if they self reflect and seek different forms of healing such as therapy or PTSD yoga etc but again most cannot and will not self reflect and face their own shadows or trauma.
Truly one of the saddest had been seeing so many women support their message and platform. Especially Kevin Smauels, the amount of black women and women in general that supported the hatred he put out was deeply disturbing.
My ultimate takeaway from all of the manospehere is that we don't need men like we used to and men of today have been taught by men of yesterday that we need to commit and submit to them like we used to have to and they don't know how to handle it. Of course there's more, but that's my overall belief.
There's literally a video on RUclips of a black man complaining to a white man about the fact that women don't need men like they used to back when women had no access to wealth and resources unless given to them by men, and how now that makes the average man who makes average money obsolete. It was more specific for black men and women because of the Goldman and Sachs pledge to donate money to black female entrepreneurs and because black women are generally more educated than their male counterparts which could then lead to more money. The only thing I could think of was a quote by the late Toni Morrison in regards to white people and racism. "If you can only be tall because someone is on their knees, then you have a very serious problem."
@@giftkorope5968 To an extent, that is true. Marriage provides legal and financial rights and securities, though, so on a functional level it is still an attractive option to many people. Fact is my bf and I will pay less in taxes overall if we get married; we will automatically hold power of attorney rights and be able to take care of each other if one of us becomes vulnerable or at risk; our future children (if we decide to have them) will benefit from our shared assets; we will share medical benefits and gain access to discounted plans for shared luxuries; and many more. If we can work on those gaps and smooth obstacles for non-married people then, yes, marriage will truly be antiquated and unnecessary as anything other than a personal/religious choice.
Write in and go speak on their shows, there are women also in the Manosphere. Women with more brains then what I'm seeing here search @deedee & @melanie King & @RebeccaBarret just to name a few but I'm sure you'll lable them "pick mes"
@@es-jm5fg yes, women that can remove their feelings and judge a situation logically. They do that all I heard in this video is just emotions not logic to why certain things happen
@@giftkorope5968 You again...Melanie is very smart. She found herself a niche. Not a necessarily a pick me but there’s obviously a catch. I do notice how she rarely talks on men’s issues or problems just mostly how “modern women are bad” and how men have it so tough. I can take a woman seriously who plays down issues they themselves face to appease viewers. She’s beautiful and knows men will flock to her if she makes her channel a certain way. Most of those channels you listed the men don’t listen to her message but just act desperate in the woman’s comments. If she looked like Leslie Jones from SNL y’all wouldn’t pay attention. If that’s women with brains you are willingly being blind. Just because some don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they don’t have a brains. You must consume all that content on the daily. Now your other comments about marriage makes sense.
Honestly, these men horrify me and I don't want to date at all until all this bullshit has fizzled out and people learn that "hey, maybe being misogynistic isn't actually helping me to be a better person". Ik way too many abusive and disrespectful black men within my life who have the same sorta mentality and i refuse to put myself through pain and suffering just bc people refuse to go to therapy and decide to take out their anger out on others.
You deserve a treat or two for doing this video, the exposure to these ideas and logics are scary as hell. Thank you for doing this, I might watch this in small portions...
I read a lot of biographies. The wives are always long-suffering and self sacrificial, especially when their spouse is high profile. Marriage is NOT for everyone.
Marriage isn't for everyone, very true. I never had that dream of being someone's wife. All the wives I saw were just glorified maids to their ungrateful husbands, it never made sense to me. I would rather be single forever than to be in that type of relationship.
@@davidspearim5552 not true in a marriage a woman has access to hypothetically 100% of his property. In divorce it's 50% only for the US cause here it's 20-25% and if the man blatantly refuses to pay for alimony the case can be drawn for decades. I've seen women dying before getting a single penny of compensation 😂😂😂😂😂....
WHY haven't I found your beautiful, intellectual and poignant self EARLIER! I am so glad to come across your channel and I am MORE than ready to have these discussions with other sister like yourself!
She's not well spoken unless you have poor vocabulary and prefer long winded over succinct. Comes across as someone trying very hard to sound intelligent when they only sound educated
@@mastaflexfulshit, has it always been defined that way? Im not very educated in the ways of Websters and I do know that language has deteriorated as a result of whats been adopted/redefined. We're in the middle of altering alot of long established words these days.
I think the biggest gift the manosphere gave me as a black woman is showing me all the people who really are not here for me simply because I’m a black woman who knows my worth. Because of this I’ve withdrawn my power and advocacy for anyone who isn’t a black woman or child.
@@kissit012 If that’s the case we can take everything online and take it as gospel. So I should believe that every black woman is a angry person to talk to and a baby mama due to videos on record on RUclips? Are you seriously using that logic?
"... and women are supposed to like it." Some of them truly, genuinely believe this in the depths of their soul. Believe it to the point of getting pissed at you for simply passing on them altogether. It's not enough to just move on to the next, to seek a partner that wishes to live as they command (cause they out there). No, it has to be ALL of us. We must ALL comply. Never.
As a woman who is supposedly in "no man's land" due to my age, I went through a period of consuming some manosphere content and it did affect my sense of self and I did feel bad about some of my choices. Then I realised even with my flaws and poor choices, I am still too good for most of them dusties. 💅
Exactly! Don't let them define u based on age or race or appearance or anything! It's their elementary way of putting down women who intimidate them, hoping and wishing for a chance! It's like when boys used to want a girl and when she'd reject him he'd call her ugly blah blah! 😂 Very childish! And to think brown men still use the same tactic! So embarrassing 😂. I rather be ALONE than settle. That says more about them then me 😂.
Okay I saw a video of one alpha male podcast where one girl said: ' I think a woman should know what a man wants and understand him and respect him because she is a representative of him then she said she believes that women should be quiet at a social function and just look good for their men." You can't imagine how impressed the men at the podcast looked when she said that. Girl so if he disrespect you at a social function you just stay quiet and look good for him??! And another women was giving her opinion and the guy was like ' We don't care what you think. ..' like what are they doing 😕
What’s funny is that the few pastors that I listen to online and my local pastor do not totally agree with that either! They teach a lot about submission, but they also hold the men accountable and have wives that don’t allow them to talk to them any kind of way.
For real I think those guys just want a sex doll at this point but they would sound crazy saying it directly so they make up all these excuses to sound better lmao.
Honestly, these males with mics genuinely terrify me with the way they talk about women sometimes. They literally don't even see us as human beings - just good or bad looking objects to be possessed and possibly discarded whenever the real humans(men) get bored or determine that we're no longer valuable.
@@theezzie Honestly, I think most people acknowledge that 25 is young. It’s just men inside the manosphere. I have a suspicion that if the age of consent was lowered to 12, they’d choose wives of that age.
As Alpha Male podcasts and how startlingly common their sentiments are is so depressing. They’re essentially looking for slaves in the women they date. Who the fuck looks for “Submissiveness” in a partner. That’s deranged.
While i do disagree with most "alpha male" rhetoric, I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting submissiveness in a partner, so long as you dont intend to abuse that quality.
@@CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul I think it’s okay if that’s what’s agreed on, but to expect that out of someone? Or look for that as a quality? That’s kind of weird and predatory, because why do you want someone to be submissive to you? (outside of consensual romantic and sexual endeavors/just in general) Essentially you’re probably looking to have power over someone if that is a “natural quality” you look for in a partner. And that is kinda gross.
I don't know if you have talked about this topic yet but I feel like SOME feminine coaches doctrines should be considered part of this conversation, as similarities can be seen between alpha male teachings and femininity coaches teachings.
@Reesie In what way are BWE oppressing Black males and are directly telling them that they need women to be of any value? BWE is a reaction to the Black males GENERATIONAL Opression on Black women that we have taken in silence for Decades, The unequal treatment experienced in our own community because we girls ans told to put BM first, and Colorism which is enforced in the same way racism is with the outside groups, that being the Black male oppresses us on even the basics of how we look which is not something we can control. The space is to encorage Black women to WALK AWAY from that abuse and to leave these men to their own devices. I notice anytime Black women respond and want to care for self, everyone finds issue with it. Nothing that is said by by specfically big BWE platforms like Paris Milian or Chrissie, speaks ill or for harm on males. Extermeists exist in some Divestment groups which is what you are conflating here with BWE, but BWE itself is to Empower the Black woman. So please explain how we are the same in reverse?
I am a 40 year old black female that wanted to be a mother more than a wife. At 37 I was artificially inseminated and had a beautiful baby girl. I am now trying for baby number two. We all have different paths and for some women that does not include a husband. My older brother is a Hebrew Israelite and is disgusted by my choices and the fact I chose not to be a baby mama but a single mother by choice.
@@youngbloodtv254 it is going great I have a cycle coming up in early 2023 hopefully that will be successful and I end up pregnant. All in all motherhood is amazing I have an amazing support system that helps me raise my child.
Some things in this world are beyond you and your ability to control them, and a child's need to know their father is one of them. It's a hole that you will not be able to fill. I know this from experience.
@@wtfdoihavetodohere my daughter will be allowed to contact her bio father when she is 18. Until then she has a wonderful father figure in her uncle and grandfather. That will have to be enough
@@vizeas selfish woman. the child still lacks her biological father in her life and you already made the choice of not giving her a choice 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ women ☕️
Kevin Samuels talked about how women who had standards would die alone but he ended up being the one who died alone....with an escort (not a girlfriend, fiancee or wife) albeit but alone none the less. A good example of the manosphere is on the show Bridgerton where a lady's currency was her rep as an innocent virgin while the men slept with everyone they could. It's an awesome that shows the ridiculous double standards between genders. The young women on the show literally know little to nothing about sex & baby making & they're in mid teens to early maybe even mid 20s. Things most of us know by our early tweens these girls were completely unaware.
As an indian i have a bad habit of writing off anything british but that show was actually fascinating in its portrayal. Its rly astounding shit how insane patriarchy is lol esp colonial patriarchy
Kevin Samuels was everything he dragged women for. He was a renter. No family, except his mother. He was single and over 40. He only had $1,000 in his bank account. I'm not happy he's dead, but I'm unhappy that since he's dead, he can't see himself being exposed as a fraud. Women need to stop listening to these so-called “relationship gurus”. They're always divorced at least once. They always think that being “honest” means telling women they're fat or unattractive. It's never advice, it's always criticism of women. Why go to them for advice when you would probably be better off talking to a friend?
they go after the same women they "despise", it's cuz they project their insecurities onto women, they know a respectable and lovely woman would never look their way ANYWAY bc they refuse to let their pride go, therefore they'll just make every woman seem approachable or just devalue her to feel secure w that. It's really a shame.
@@wife0fsunwoo they demean those women in an attempt to destroy their confidence too!!! They don’t want to have to compete for the attention of women, so if they get with a woman who has a lot of options they’re gonna make her feel less than in an attempt to make her question her value
36:18 I never understood this about the Caribbean, specifically Jamaica. They'll fight to the bone to say it's a Christian nation, recite the scripture, sing the gospel, make a daily prayer, and actively bring up God in casual conversation, yet when you look around those Christian values are barely upheld. The men are supposed to be God-fearing but rarely take their kins up to church. Women and men are supposed to marry and start families, yet 47% of children are fatherless and 80% are born out of wedlock. Love thy neighbor yet the killing and backstabbing are at an all time high. But God forbid a chi chi man car rolls up. And from what I've seen in marriages, the women will be in charge of everything yet still call the husband the head of the household. It's always your grandmother holding the family together. While there are exceptions, I can't help but wonder why this is the standard
Most of these things are true, but to crucify Caribbean countries as if we're the worst of the lot is not it. All of these things you loathe are a direct effect of colonialism, forced religious conversion, and slavery. This isn't unique to just us but go off.
@@sseraphim2818 Can you point to the part where I "crucify Caribbean countries" for making an objective observation on issues that contradict the countries' values? (And for the record I said "specifically Jamaica"). Stop putting words in people's mouths, I never said they were the worst. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy that constantly gets swept under the rug. Ignoring these issues because "we're not the worst" is a poor excuse, and slavery and colonialism shouldn't excuse these either.
@@NeroMai as someone living in the caribbean, your points are pretty spot on. i mean just today i had an argument with someone i know geting mad about lgbt being more prevalent in barbados. like people legit get mad that some people arent cis or straight. at this point im tired trying to tell them other wise, we have known to be stubborn, so they can angrily cry themselves to sleep at night while i sleep peacefully.
This parallels modern Latin communities so much. Childlike men are such a turn off. Im tired of being groomed by my family to take care of a husband. No. He’s not a child or is he sick, or disabled. We work equal, we tend to the house equally. I’m dating out!
Not sure about anyone else but… I’m special af!🤣🤣🤣 Don’t let this content get you down instead use it to learn. Do your own research and enjoy the journey it’s a trip🥰 Tee thank you for all you do and speak🥰🥰🥰🔥🔥🔥
@@Colt19 well “I’m the best nigga in the world” what makes her special is the fact that there’s only ONE of her. You will never find another one of her,try as you might.
@@itslonda4157 🙄… that still doesn’t make her “special”.. no one is “special” I’m sure there is black women jus like her who think the same way..she pays taxes and is gonna die one day like the rest of us..
I am a 6’4, 350k dollar earning, African American male Dentist, of 30 years of age. At 19:20 in this video, you completely challenged my point of view…. Wow. I searched for content to challenge all of the red pill ideologies that have become prevalent in my life these days. The men and women around me have been gassing m up, and much of the red pill theories have been creating a sense of entitlement for me and thereby dissatisfaction with what I have been happy with for many years prior to becoming a high earner. Thank you for your perspective. I’m a subscriber now.
The older I get the sicker I feel that young women still have to live in a world like this. Navigating through this shit myself is one thing but when I think about women Tee's age and younger being exposed to it I feel such desperation. My generation failed to stop it.
Funny part is. For all of these podcasters , there ARE pickmeshas who co-sign and want what they preach. My solution is for us to ignore them and let the pickmeshas have them. On the flip side, many of their platforms should also be struck down because it radicalizes men and the majority of ones who do hate crimes against females, they tend to listen to podcasts like this
Ironically, "alpha males" don't want pick-mes. The pleasure they truly seek derives from breaking a "strong independent woman". They want the ones they either have been, or feel they would be, rejected by to submit. But once she does the thrill is gone, they're empty once again. No amount of women bowing at their feet will ever be enough. They'll get more and more vile and more and more depressed. It's something within themselves they must remedy. Throwing pickmeshas at them won't be enough to keep them off the internet unfortunately 😕.
@@monimuppet6132 the only reason any of these manosphere goons have platforms is because of the outrage women, especially black women, publicly have. Ignoring them will hurt their pockets because we ARE the content. They do things like this to garner our attention. They do it partially for men, majority for a bag and entertainment. If we paid them dust, they’d never blow up. Black outrage, especially that of the black woman, is very lucrative.
@Ayman Hussein That was weak. Reducing it all down to "instincts" is essentially waving a white flag, excusing yourself from any individual growth. My comment was not upholding womankind over mankind but the fact that's what you interpreted says a few things about you. So you can read the matrix yet the only thing you gleaned was 'it is what it is'? Your resignation to sit on the fence while watching the gender wars is cowardice, not wisdom and definitely not superiority. You can take your little benign, rudimentary assessment elsewhere. Your adventures on both sides of the aisle have made you no more enlightened because you still came out only seeing those two sides. What a bore.
@Ayman Hussein I think this is an oversimplified view. Of course if you go to two extremes, you will realize the similarities. Misogynists and misandrists have a big thing in common: sexism. But if you look at the reasons why these groups feel this way there will be differences, usually because their values are COMPLETELY different. (Obviously sexism is wrong either way) Manosphere me and (Non-misandrist) Feminists want power and control, but do they want power and control of the same things? The whole point of the original feminist movements was for women to gain power control over their *own* life, not their husband's. They wanted reproductive rights, monetary stability for themselves, the right to vote and work. Basic things that lead to autonomy. The reason so many of these manosphere types hate feminism is because women don't NEED men like women used to, therefore the only incentive women have to settle down with a man is because she WANTS to (and for a lot of women if they had to choose between being single and settling down with a self proclaimed "high value man / alpha male" they will choose to be single, myself included). Women can afford to be single now. My point for all this is to say that men in the "manosphere" are not here to take back control over themselves (women don't have control over men) they want control and power over women, they want women to NEED them and they want those women to like the fact that they need them. Because if a woman has a job (or any basic necessity), what can a "high value man" provide them? What makes him useful? Why else would a woman want to be with a man if not for monetary stability and protection? Apparently these men don't know what love or an equal partnership is.
16:50 BRUH. THIS IS *EXACTLY* WHAT I TOLD MY BROTHER ABOUT HIS THING WITH THESE ALPHA MALE PODCASTERS. I told him that if you think about what they say even a LITTLE by asking yourself "but why tho?" you'll see so many flaws in what they're saying and that the issues are more complex and the answers are not so straight forward. But ofc what these men want is straightforward and easy answers. No thoughts behind those eyes 😐😐😐
I’m the type of woman who definitely wants a partner and kids. I’m determined to have kids whether I get a partner or not 🤷🏾♀️I’m definitely a hopeless romantic and I realized I’m bi rather recently so idk I want a partner and I do believe I can get one. I’m not sure how much fear I hold for the alternative
In the end it’s up to you and whatever partner that you find, but I do think it’s worth considering how much do you really want it. Maybe there’s more value in being single.
@@AsteroSloth in this moment I don’t want a relationship and do enjoy being single however I do want a partner at some point. I feel like both sides of this conversation is a little condescending. I wants kids and a partner the same way I want my dream job. It’s a passion. I want kids more than a partner but I live romance and I don’t think that’s wrong 🤷🏾♀️ it’s something I want and something I’m aloud to want. It doesn’t have to be for everyone but the same way we should believe women who say they don’t ever want kids or a partner and accept that that’s ok we should also let women say they want those things and it not be an inherent reflection of some sort of internal issue.
@@sobbos8975 yeah no I think that everyone, although women a lot more because of that whole biological clock shenanigan, has this pressure to get married and make a family and all that funky shit. I was a happily coupled ace man until two weeks ago so honestly I’m in a “FUCK RELATIONSHIPS DAWG” mood rn but in the end if you want to make that choice I just hope you do it smarter than I did 🥲
@@AsteroSloth lol ok I feel you 😂😂 like I said I’m not too far from where you’re at either but it’s just something I’m comfortable with wanting for the future lol thanks
I love that you know what you want… and that you’re also fluid, bc inner change is just as constant as the world changing around you. I thought I’d want another relationship after my Daughter’s father, but my empty bed still feels good after 6 yrs. I want a relationship after my daughter is older bc childhood trauma makes it hard for me to trust men around her who aren’t her Father… and I want someone who is already a parent. But I’m also willing to die single… just no cats! Lol
What sucks is that I watch this, get upset momentarily, and then go on about my life knowing that these guys still exist and still believe these things and proceed to spread this ideology to tons of other men who will eat it up. Very dangerous.
Same. As a guy, there's only so much you can tell these types to convince them otherwise. For the moment, I just gotta accept only being able to hopefully pull a few people out of the rabbit hole at a time, while also accepting that some women might just assume I'm in that rabbit hole myself for various reasons. No idea what the blanket solution would be honestly.
@@normandy2501 Fr, if you oppose them as a man, you're a simp, if you're a woman, your opinions never meant anything to being with, and if you're nb or anything else, you don't even exist in their eyes.
The best comeback to this energy is to be the “masculine” woman. Match the level of confidence they aim to have and watch them crumble. You don’t even need to invest time to reply and when you do they just 🤯🤯🤯
True but I get exhausted being in all that negativity! I just roll eyes and walk away. To me thats ultimate peace of mind! 🙏 let those losers yell and scream and make a fool of themselves.
Personally I don't care to have a comeback at all. I've found that even something as simple as "matching energy" can be interpreted as validation. Whether I'm masculine, feminine or whatever my outside appearance or energy is I said what I said lol
@@keandrethegoat1169 you definitely can lol but maybe because I’m a bit of a sociopath myself. Except I’m self aware, I don’t view men as objects, and I only use my powers for good 😂
@@Myaccount923 yea maybe fake ones .I used to live with one who is now in prison for a couple gruesome murders and all his emotions were fake .he was able to adapt to any personality to gain trust ,which in the end assisted him in the sick and disgusting crime he committed.idk about psychopaths but Ik sociopaths have no real emotion.so technically there’s nothing they can crumble about,that’s how he was able to do sinister stuff with no remorse
The way you address these topics is completely & utterly my cup of tea. Having men to give their intelligent analysis does wonders for other men who need to hear these types of conversations. It also helps women to see all men are not the same and there is hope out there ladies. The way you research and use resources to help support your well thought out statements does not go unnoticed. Well done sis!
39:00 bro she really just bodied the whole manosphere with this conclusion . 1. This system they uplhold is like armor for them, allowing them to live with their shortcomings and objective negative behavior without challaneging and changing it (like how fresh and for say women can’t cheat but men can) 2. They fall in this echo chamber because they have to keep spouting the same BS over and over with no change 3. When people make an objectively good point, they can’t give it an inch because of one thing is accept, the whole Jenga block falls So these alpha men are just very scared of having to live like a normal human and face their shadow, so they create this world where they cover their ears and yell about how things should be because they are afraid, and that fear just comes out as over aggression. Doesn’t sound too alpha to me 👀. Thanks for the video, I personally really appreciate it and I’m gonna take lores of notes because this really summed up that dumb ass mindset
This right here - it's so tricky to fully fathom phenomena that seem so scarily odd sometimes. This sums it up nicely. It seems like a coping mechanism after all. Also, it is best to just look at it for what it is instead of falling into the trap of making it about women, femininity etc. There is no healthy way out once you start debating their logics...
Even if I was desperate to want a husband or that was one of my main goals, Kevin STILL wouldn’t be someone I would go to for advice or anything in general
As a woman who want children and want to get married to a man but I don't listen to these podcasters I just want to enjoy the journey and date people until I find the right men for me and have fun doing this. If I don't marry until my late 30s or early 40s and if that affects my infertility, I have the option to adopt someone from the foster care system.
Married black man here, got here thru FD’s recommends….. I’m just here to listen and up my knowledge to speak to these issues in as comprehensive a way as possible in my own content… this is dope so far 🙌🏾
So men can go around having as much sex with as many partners as they want but a black woman’s value is dependent on her sexuality… smhhhhh. I hate this box that they place us in.
I had to stop watching Kevin Samuels. The more I watched, the more I became self hating and obsessed with being considered ‘feminine’ enough. My ex fiancé introduced me to this man. He would always randomly quote Samuels and use certain things I did against me. He would even threaten to find someone better and suggest that he should be treated like a king. I was so insecure towards the end of our relationship. One day I got sick of him complaining and hung up on him which he dumped me over. I was devastated and embarrassed. A few months later I realized that I completely lost myself in the relationship. After I met my current husband, I am positive that it was for the best. I would have been miserable with my ex. Not to mention, he came back begging me to get back with him but I said no. I told him straight up that he was a coward because only a coward could humiliate a woman because she doesn’t comply with your every little desire. All these men are cowards with their little podcasts.
Glad you put your ex in place for daring to come back. They always try to crawl back into someone's life when they "realize" their podcasters lied to them, and that supposed "submissive" woman they recently got is really someone they can't even handle.
Decolonizing your mind also means changing the way you treat others on a human level. It's realizing that we are all connected and social responsibility is a deeply integral aspect of this decolonization. How do you treat others with a different identity than yourself? We need to ask ourselves that question. Women are half of humanity and we need to express our human solidarity to them and realize that the capitalist, colonialist ideals we developed and were propagandized with are counterproductive to maintaining humanity and helping us to thrive.
I'm white and treating people with respect when they also treat others with respect is the golden rule & being a good human being not some colonization bullshit.
Handmaid's Tale has always been off-putting for me and you really nailed a part of it that I couldn't properly verbalize. Which is that undoubtedly while that world is terrifying to imagine, it isn't actually representative of the history that inspired it or the true way that it would look if it ~happened in this day and age. You said it, we don't need to imagine the dehumanization and enslavement of women as some fictionalized thing, since Black women historically have been the targets of the worst of sexual slavery and dehumanization.
i still visibly wince and cringe sometimes, remembering just how far down into those toxic beliefs I got before i realized just how insane and weird it truly was, and how bad I was acting and could’ve acted. I could have seriously turned into a complete creep if I didn’t escape the manosphere/pua/mgtow areas. To all the women who ever had to deal with my horrible self awareness at some point in their life, I really don’t know how i could apologize.
To add on to daisy, acknowledge how sexism/misogyny has different effects on the various women in the world. There's misogynoir, trans women who's trans identity overlaps with being a woman, queer women in general, disabled women whether it's visible or invisible, so on and so forth. By doing that you can at least make someone's life a little better by being upfront and calling it out. Simply put, call out the misogyny you see in strangers, friends, family, et cetera. Idk about misogyny in women, that's a problem with unique aspects, but in general be an advocate and speak when a woman needs you to. Not when you decide to, as that can take away her voice. Your first thought is what you've been taught to believe by the world/culture around you, your second thought shows who you are as a person. Don't feel bad for having a bad first thought, make sure the second is always correcting it, to the point you learn not to see the first reaction.
@daisyk except it literally is though. Even when a man fully transitioned and looks like a woman as soon as people find out they are trans people find them disgusting and not a real woman. I understand the difference in appearance can be weird but most of the time the problem is that these men renounced their masculinity and that brings shame to 'alpha' men because obviously they consider women as weaker so why would anyone want to be feminine. In their eyes femininity equals weakness and you may think it doesn't affect you but they will turn around and see you with the same hatred just bc you are a woman
@daisyk you mean...trans women? I had to read this several times over to get to that. There's a difference between men who just liked feminine clothes or femininity in general, and there's transgender women who may to may not be feminine but are women. And yes, they do experience the sexism women do, it's just in a different form like how an bipoc woman's sexist experiences is different from a disabled woman's, and how both are different to what disabled bipoc people face with additional challenges. Sexism intertwined with transphobia shows in the ways (typically) cis men perceive femininity, seeing any "man" who "chooses to become" a woman as weaker and lesser than and pathetic. To transphobes they aren't women, but they also don't want to consider them men entirely because they deviate from the expected ""ideal"" of a man. Femininity, in all people, is seen as the lesser while masculinity is seen as the greater identity, though that sometimes isn't exactly the case as some may prefer strict gender roles over masculinity as a whole. It even shows in the way androgyny is often seen as more masculine than fem instead of the in between it's meant to be. But back to the point, and to repeat it, they do. My feminism/womanism includes trans women and their experiences. In fact my womanism centers women, but points put and gladly acknowledges class, men's issues, race, and more that correlates. Doing all of that will make the original commentor a better ally, what he wants to be. I really don't know what else to say, on this channel we believe that trans women are women, and that all of our experiences as women vary; we believe in true intersectionality, not half hearted feminism that chooses who and what to exclude or focuses on less important issues over what women around the world fight against constantly.
Man, the fact that you and F.D. Sigifier have dropped approximately hour-long videos on similar topics makes me so happy. Today's going to be a 'chill in bed with popcorn and get educated' kinda day.
Yup. And this is why so many “good men“ refuse to stand up to the bad ones. Women are starting to realize this and understand that any man who needs to be in the boys club is inherently an enemy to women. They can’t be our Allie’s. It’s against the rules of the “club.”
Love everything you said here! Would love your take on the unprecedented media attention on the depp v heard case, and the extremely misogynistic harassment of her online (not saying this as a supporter of her, but media has been an echo chamber towards this case and I would love a nuanced take on it from a feminist lens)
I'm almost 30 and I genuinely do not want to become a wife and mother. I'm not ruling out the possibility that I might want that in the future (strongly considering adopting in my mid 30s), but right now and in the foreseeable future, my goals are freedom, peace, travel and more money.
@@silentwitness536 You must be a Rollo Tomassi fan. No she is not the man she desires, she is just herself and likes being on her own. You guys really are threatened by women who who are ok being single, aren't you.
Every other week someone is making a post or comment about how they still listen to R (ape) Kelly bc they separate the man from the music… HUH????? The music was literally about him and his perversion!!! 🤦🏽♀️ Always excusing male degeneracy! ppl ALWAYS separating the man from his actions and never for women! Smh! It’s sick!
This alpha male nonsense seems to be everywhere. Its bad enough my wife actually pulled me to the side and thanked me for not being like that. I feel bad for all the teenage boys out there who hear this stuff and think its solid advice.
@@Biobele The ones that are ignorant are yall that shame a man for having his own mind and not following the so-called ''manosphere'' or ''alpha male'' mentality. NEXT Y'all acting just like the women you talk about.
Any man calling another man a beta or a simp for treating his woman right should be avoided at every cost.
and needs to remain isolated themselves until they receive therapy
@@Laquia you guys realize y’all are the minority WHILE they’re growing right?
It’s clear to me y’all don’t know what those terms mean.
The number of people who think like us is growing as well 🤷🏾♀️. We aren't scared.
They’re walking red flags. These men are basically telling you to stay away from them but they don’t know it.
I can't even watch or listen to these podcasts for more than a minute without feeling sick ... but you did the research and soldiered on just for us .
Thank you for recognizing the sacrifice lol wasn't easy!
@@TeeNoir thank you for the sacrifice ..I could never lol
Great video so many gems from your guests .
@@bongiwetshabalala2044 she is a true soldier ✊️
I watch red pill alpha male pink pill crap just for laughs
@@TeeNoir i love your vids pls notice me
The whole argument that "it's easier for women to get sex" is bashed by one thing - quality and safety. Yeah, you can get it, but with a huge chance of being abused and taken advantage of, being unsatisfied and hurt. With the wide spread of porn sex turned very sadistic towards women, normalising a shit ton of things that shouldn't be normalised
Yes. For men wondering why they don’t get as much sex as women, maybe they should consider that we are just trying to protect ourselves
Guess the porn stuff is a mirror of what already is going on. It's a type of media, so it reflects what society wanna see or be told. The "girl" pretending to be a "c*m addict" and be "whilling" to partake in any level of agression towards her to get that "sweet nectar" is sexy... "because we said so". Of course, porn also tell us what to like from time to time...
@@ViniSocramSaint don't remember who said it (and have rough time translating from my native language) but "how to make society to view any violence and derogatory acts towards women as normal? Just say they were having sex in that time"
You forgot tinder and other dating apps that destroy the average guys self-esteem plays a huge role.
@@Andrewbait you claim that guys self esteem is ruined whilist it's almost impossible to find a pair where the guy looks better than woman. Even those, who would certainly be considered "ugly and undatable" if they were women, usually have a pair that is much above them . Doesn't add up, don't you think?
I used to get mad until I realized, I HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO I DATE OR TALK TO AND ACCEPT! Ladies we don't have to lay and date males like this. They can run game, doesn't mean i have to play with them.
YES!!!!
I agree. But the problem is that men like that can still be our teachers, bosses and doctors. They'll not only treat us lesser than men/boys, they also won't take us seriously and we have no control over it. That is why it's still an issue anyways.
exactly, only challenge is identifying them prior
If you look at the videos these types of guys put up where they hit on women or demonstrate how to hit on women, I would say with the game their running, you wouldn’t be too interested. Some would say they have no game
They gave been the vast majority of men getting laid for 40yrs plus at this point...ig most women disagree with u
And another thing… there are women who are coping with sexual trauma, and I dare say healing and finding a way to coexist with men again can be an excruciating process if a man was involved. I know… and I don’t see how trying to date during it all helps either party. I told my Dad and brother this when they suggested I get a man to feel more protected while dealing with the symptoms of the trauma (one being paranoia). So sick of the mansplaining. My answer… if all I need is a warm body, I’ll take a woman. Conversation done. Lol
Girl I feel the same damn way. Lol
My therapist told me the same thing. That the only way (I was 15) to overcome my fear of men after being SA'd by my father and a doctor was to engage with lots of men and to get a boyfriend and "experiment". Took me a long time to have any faith in therapy after that.
@@fawnieee So sry to hear that you’re dealing with all of that pain. I can’t imagine hearing that bs from a professional. It’s already hard enough opening the wound for the sake of therapy, but it’s worse when the doc turns out to be a phony. I suggest you make the library your best friend and read up on trauma. That’s been helping me. Right now I’m on Scared Sick: The Role of Childhood Trauma in adult disease. I don’t suggest reading this stuff before bed though. Maybe some Octavia Butler to take you away 😊
sexual trauma is no joke. Could you imagine what it might have felt like as a slave woman or man who had sexual trauma. I would of killed myself. The silent suffering you have to endure bc life simply moves on. Aging doesn't stop and men don't see you as a person. 😒
PERIODT
“Alpha” and “beta” are terms that were originally used to describe behavior in wolves during research. Later on, the scientist who originally coined the term to describe dominant and subordinate behavior in wolves disproved his own research and realized that the “alpha” wolf wasn’t bigger and more powerful due to some sexual je ne sais quoi or masculine character traits, it was because he was the dad of all the other wolves and baby animals usually follow their parents. Much of this manosphere bs is based on one disproved study.
David Mech could personally hand them an autographed book and they continue to scream alpha male
you cant deny the fact that there are dominate men/ alpha in our society just because they don't exist in wolves.
@@mikeinweh9633 you can say the same about women. It has nothing to do with gender
@@mikeinweh9633 alphas are enslaved wolves, if that's what y'all wanna call yourselves then by all means.
@@mikeinweh9633 If you wanna describe yourself as wolves be accurate. The beta terms aren’t what they are trying to create.
I'm a 63-yr old white grandmother and I don't know how I found your channel, but I have to say you're truly amazing! You give me hope for our future. 🌹
If your hope is for the 1st world to fall, then yes, that's how it's going. Civilization prospers by families. These women won't produce families. They will burden society when they are old and nobody wants them.
I love Tee’s perspective on things, and as a lady in her 40s, it’s absolutely amazing and so inspiring how wise and ahead of her years she is in her thinking. I can only assume that Tee Noir was raised by strong, intelligent, passionate women. I love watching her content, too. 🫶
I just turned 18 and people around me started grooming me for marriage. It’s been horrible . I’m glad I found this channel as well. Saved me from a havoc. Have a great day ladies!❤❤
I used to be very insecure about my masculinity and so started listening to these alpha male podcasts and dating coach videos years ago in the hopes of getting “better results”. But even then I found their worldview very cynical and depressing. I was falling down a rabbit hole and thought “really? Are women this shallow and superficial and empty? But I know so many women who prove the opposite.” And when I put on the act of the alpha male, guess what, more dates. But also guess what, the type of women I’d date would only reinforce my biases and the deeper my insecurities would become. And then I got to a point where I said “You know wnat? I don’t care. I am going to figure myself out, get a psychologist, work out what my issues are, work on those issues and if someone can’t accept the parts about me that I like about me, then that is their loss, not my failing.” And you know what, once I started doing that and started treating women as people, not as these otherworldy angels or tools of my bodily enjoyment, suddenly I found all of these opportunities to meet and connect with women I’ve been looking for my whole life. These podcasts are nothing but poison exploiting the very real anxieties and problems of men.
Dude grow up
That’s cap 🧢
Lol, you went to a psychiatrist...
Thank you! I've been suspecting this. These manosphere men just attract certain types of women - more likely unhappy, with low IQ or/and with low self-esteem and mental health issues, tolerant of abuse and abusive themselves. These women reinforce their stereotypes, but they are far from everyone out there. Smart, accomplished, and well-rounded women who usually are the best partners just don't respond to the "alpha male game" and avoid manosphere men, they aren't a part of their social circle and are invisible to them. And men who have these women as mothers and sisters aren't likely to engage with the manosphere in the first place. In addition, when a manosphere man happens to be confronted by a well-rounded accomplished woman, he does so much to deny her existence, accusing her of lies if she contradicts any stereotype with her words or facts about her life, basically shuts his eyes and ears and shouts over her. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. It is especially strange to me when mediocre men (as in - with average life achievements) look down on women's abilities, as if highly successful female doctors, scientists, professors, lawyers, politicians, etc. aren't everywhere around them.
@@HelgaMoro Your comment brings me hope. thank you!
I think it is quite odd that we as a society say that men's only weakness is their horniness. If anything, their empathy levels and self-centeredness and lack of real discipline are their weaknesses, not horniness for women. I think refusing to see women as whole human beings and the rejection of anything deemed feminine is what holds men, especially the manosphere ones back.
1. What benefit does being feminine offer men?
2. Why should men have empathy for women who have none for them?
I agree. Horniness is not a human kryptonite and lack of sexual discipline especially needs to stop being considered a valid excuse for the very preventable mistakes a lot of people make.
@@christopherbrown5409 1. Same benefit masculinity ideals do. A mix of feminine and masculinity views are most beneficial.
2. Because empathy is something that humans (unless you lack empathy and thus need to be either be diagnosed or self evaluated) feel on a mental level. When you deem a person as someone who doesn't deserve empathy, you thus are in a mindset to dehumanize and justify wrongdoings towards. And not just a lack of empathy towards women, empathy in general towards everyone. If a woman gets assaulted, it's meant with (by women too, but mostly men) "well what were you wearing?" If a man gets assaulted he "should've enjoyed it". Why? Because men made those ideals. If the woman is assaulted, the men think that it was simply the woman tempted the men with her body. If the man was assaulted, men (typically involuntary incels) tell the guy to enjoy it because in their minds, sexual encounters with women are good regardless. Is this all men? Of course not, but these old ideologies take different forms depending on the time period.
I’m asexual so yeah definitely have a lot of other stuff affecting me jaja. But I do think horniness sucks idk they make me feel weird about being a man 💀
@@MahouShoujo-Studios
1. Someone who's pro-feminist respecting masculine ideals?
I think Satan just discovered snow.
2. So you want men to serve and sympathise with abusive, disrespectful women, and further their sense of entitlement.
I remember when I was a university student 16 years ago. My favorite professor gave us a speech while contemplating a class full of girls with only 2 boys. "Years after years I see young women investing in their education while young men are diverging from it. I'm both happy and terrified for your future because you will challenge men's ego. Because you will be more educated they will says that you depreciate them. You will earn more and they will say that you don't know your place. There are a lot of psychological and physical violence to come. Young ladies be strong and stand your ground"
What a prophecy...
She hit it right on the mark.
Whoever your professor was, he KNEW what he was saying!
Your professor was spot on!
@@Misana why assume the professor was a he?
@@pattygould8240 You're the type of person that causes others never to share anything out loud... DOES. IT... MATTER?!
Before I met my boyfriend I was genuinely starting to imagine myself as a 45 year old single, with no kids, and was totally okay with it. That was also the reason why I didn’t felt like I had anything to loose when we first started dating. I actively choose to be with him, not because of some pressure.
This is awesome.
Women will literally never die alone
@@keandrethegoat1169 Everyone will die alone it only depends on your family, friends, social skills, etc. that will determine wether it will be sooner or later in life.
Whenever I see women worry about finding a partner and having kids, I look at my mom and other women her age and older who are without men: They are single and they are happy spending time with their families and (platonic) girlfriends. Men leave or die and in the end if you have family or friends you'll still be good. Create community and friendship and your life will always have purpose and joy.
I’m 21 and have never dated and I’m not worried about dying alone even tho some men like to use it as a threat 😂😂 like this isn’t the 40s, that’s not scary anymore. I actually don’t see myself dating but I’d like to work up the courage to try!!
This reminds me of when Kristen Stewart from Twilight cheated Robert Pattinson, people wanted her dead, they followed her in the streets cursing and threatening her. But when Jay z, Brad Pitt and so many other cheated their WIFES already with children, nobody thought twice, 'its just men' they say.
Because women cheating is more horrible than men cheating for obvious reasons.
@@syzorst defective Y chromosome logic
@@redbullgavemewings1553 how so?
@@syzorst the Y chromosome is a defect which is why your logic is defective.
@@redbullgavemewings1553 So are you saying that when women cheat, it's just as bad as when men cheat?
There is nothing that scares these men more than a woman who values herself
Not true
@@theothermoe321 absolutely true. They want a woman that doesn't know her worth so they can take advantage of her, they want a woman that's completely dependent on them with no self esteem or any desires other than following her "man", them, around. These men can't handle women that can be independent and want something more for themselves, it's why they constantly drag women down and say horrible things about them.
These men have no self esteem and are so insecure the only woman they'd feel comfortable with is one that only feels her value comes from him. They want a slave that's completely controlled by them, not a human being that's an independent and equal partner.
@@theothermoe321 very true
@@briiluvsnone no. It's actually not true
@Nicholas Time elaborate
It makes me uncomfortable to see men take femininity and claim it as something that they are in charge of. I value my femininity, but seeing other men use it as a way to measure a woman’s worthiness makes me uncomfortable and feel objectified. As a girl who just turned 18, it makes me nervous to even think about finding a partner and makes me subconsciously and consciously notice what I wear and how my body looks a lot more. I appreciate you talking about this.
Brooklyn wear whatever you want to wear, because they'll talk about you regardless. If your dress is down to the ground you're boring but if it's showing skin then you're a garden tool. These guys literally lack common sense. They take what these imbeciles say to heart and run with it. Don't let them make you feel less than because of their nonsense
Interesting you say that about femininity. I feel there is danger in thinking any one gender has monopoly on femininity, or any "energy" for that matter. I also struggle with the surveillance of gender altogether. But as a mostly feminine presenting woman myself, I can only say in theory, not in practice.
@@brownskinbeauty. Thank you, I learned that the hard way lol
@@TeeNoir Yes, I agree. I was mainly talking from my perspective as a black girl and the duality of presenting myself more femininely and also feeling uncomfortable with the pressure to present myself femininely to be beautiful. I personally dress femininely because it is the style of clothing I like, but I get comments about how it is nice to have naturally feminine features and that it is still nice to see that girls are still choosing to present themselves in a way that warrants respect. I just want to be able to dress how I dress without being bothered, but I do feel intimidated in knowing that the way I dress influences people’s perceptions and treatment of me, especially in my experience men.
I think it’s weird how women are shamed for being more feminine, and how femininity is demonized in media. There will always be someone who doesn’t like what you have going on, and it’s hard to act like ppl’s opinions don’t matter bc they do, it sucks tbh.
I really needed this today. Just seeing someone else express the pain and anger I'm having makes me feel so much better. Wonderful work.
Thank you!
This! They really have me out here just so hurt and angry. I had to quit Twitter bc I felt insane... Like does nobody else see this? Does nobody else see that the demographic responsible for the most violent shit on the planet is talking about women like dogs? In the age of a mass shooting a day? Where men do nearly all of the mass shooting? Am I going mad??
Why are you in pain and feeling angry?
@@coolrunnings1936 why should she tell u when you’re not going to comfort her but gaslight her? U men know what u be doing
@@PrincessYonna1 They stay trying it, that seemingly “innocent” inquiry is nothing more than a wolf in sheep clothing, always leads to paragraphs of gaslighting, have seen it time and time again in the comment section.
I think these men are just deeply unhealed and afraid and hate their mothers and are narcissits/psychopaths. It's disgusting.
@@Akronkangaroo found one who fits the description
On the contrary most of them are like “my mother is the only one”, “or every woman is a wh*re except her” or “I would do anything for her” and they still despise women. They are sick.
As a very skinny, not very masculine Mexican kid who couldn't get a gf growing up in Texas, I had to figure out allot of stuff about myself, for myself. It's so easy to get caught up in these toxic pits of masculinity as a weapon and defensive mechanism. And I only barely avoided it early on by inadvertently becoming the best friend and confidant to several girls.
When I realized that kindness and friendship netted me the attention I craved, the toxicity just didn't hold any value. In retrospect, that's terrifying, because as a young teen you only know what you feel, and when you have full grown men reinforcing the idea that your anger and vitrial is justified, and that you are entitled to someone else, that's dangerous. Love without their will to choose so, there's a word for that, and like most of my female friends, I've also been subjected to it.
Woah. Relatable! Having friends that are women (without trying to date/have sex with them) has enriched my life so much and really helped me to avoid the Manosphere stuff I think. Patriarchy hurts women and other non-men the most ofc, but it hurts men too, to a lesser extent, because of the constant surveillance so expertly described here.
@@ADubbs-fd8xf I think having woman friends is essential, but I also think that denying that these men caught in a cycle are looking for love shouldn’t be supplemented with “just get a friend” a lot of that rhetoric just ends up pulling those men deeper in the manosphere because it’s not addressing their specific issues.
Ironically most of the alpha men die alone. Their best case scenario, ending up with a doormat they don't love.
I was also a Mexican kid in Texas but I was raised in a relatively conservative Catholic home (and my father has some far right connections back home as I later found out) and for that I went fundamentalist about it especially in my college years, I wasn't looking to date at that time because I thought God wanted me to be a priest or a monk (besides I started developing very questionable views regarding women's rights so the only women I would've dated back then were the super devout TradWife types, back then I knew how limited my options were but I wasn't sure if I wanted kids while being among Catholics who refuse to use birth control of any kind and don't like Pope Francis) so although I almost fell into the alt-right rabbit hole around 2016 (thanks to internalized racism) I never really took the Manosphere seriously but I was sympathetic in their hatred for feminism and I was misogynistic in my own unique Catholic way (mainly that women had no place being anywhere close to the altar, as I would've used the Timothy quote as a justification, and that of course they had no right to have an abortion because the Church said so).
It wasn't until after my faith in that religion fell apart two years ago when I started becoming an ally to the people I was hostile to because of my loyalty to the Church (so again mainly feminists and the LGBT+ community) and I'm very much glad there's channels like this one to explain what's wrong with the world, the segment about fundamentalist Christianity was all too familiar to me. However, one of the good things that came out of that time period is that I learned how to have platonic relationships with the opposite sex and even back then I was horrified by the suggestion that men and women can't be friends without dating, but shortly before I left I did start finally noticing some of the toxic masculinity that the theology I believed had (mainly the complimentarian BS but some extremist priests I listened to promoted really harmful ideas around marriage) and watching videos making fun of channels like Girl Defined and the Transformed Wife make me glad I left that lifestyle.
@@imanigordon6803 of course, simply seeing women from their own perspective isn't enough, allot of these men have deep issues, but as a kid, that initial perspective and sympathy prevented me from falling into the mindset. Although none of my male friends became incels themselves. They still maintained a genrally toxic view of women at the time, which I managed to overcome with introspection.
I can admit that a toxic flaw of mine was I didn’t care if a man was disrespectful towards other women as long as he respected me, in honesty I kind of liked it because at the time it fed my insecure need to feel special. Thing is those men will treat you just like how they do every other woman they disrespect the moment you “step out of line” with how they want you to behave. Glad I could wake up, now I refuse to be with any man who refers to women as b*t*hes or h*es or anything of the sort. They way they talk about other women is a HUGE identifier of who they are no matter how “kind and respectful” they are towards you.
i just wanted to add men who refer to women as "females".
absolutely disgusting
yess and it makes you realize that the only reason they were nice to you in the beginning was bc they wanted some coochie
There’s this quote that James Baldwin said in his book “Here Be The Dragons, or the Freaks and the American Ideal of Manhood” that there is androgyny in every single one of us. Not in terms of physical nature but in mental and emotional behavior. We all have a combination of both masculinity and femininity. It’s apart of us. I believe we can’t suppress nor shouldn’t oppress that because it causes an imbalance within ourselves.
When I hear this bs of alpha males and beta males, I roll my eyes and walk away. It’s crazy how these men who endlessly rant on their podcasts about a women’s looks, standards, and their values and confuse and conflate themselves to be an “alpha male”, are just showcasing their incel-ish insecurities. “Alpha males” don’t do that. There is literally no such thing as the alpha male.
literally… they made up Alpha Male because they want to feel special for hating women.
Exactly! It baffles me how so many people make it seem like you have to be either masculine or feminine when its not that black and white. But its true what Tee said, a lot of us have been indoctrinated to think that all these different traits or features are assigned to a specific group of people and that if you don't comply you're bothered, worst if you try to break away from it then they shame you even more. :(
Absolutely agree. Was just discussing this with a friend of mine the other day. Every person waking this planet is half woman (their mother) and half man (their father). We are all, all in one
Carl Jung came up with the terms anima and animus many years ago. The anima is the feminine part found within the masculine. The animus is the masculine part found within the feminine. Think of the yin yang symbol from Chinese philosophy. The white represents the masculine. There is a small spot of black within the white. That is the feminine energy found within the masculine. The black represents the feminine. There is a small spot of white that represents the masculine energy found within the feminine.
💯!!!!!!
Being autistic, overweight, and socially akward female, them saying women can have any man they want is not true. I've had guys reject me before.
Man’s rejection is your protection.
more creature category than ..
Even the most handsome hot guy gets rejected. You're a new kinda idiot. This is why men and women can't communicate. Reread what you just said. No one is above rejection. And no one ever says your gonna get the men you want, even if you're xyz, you know that's not the saying. It's, because you're a woman and that's between your legs you'll get men regardless. Don't mean they are gonna love you or treat you right but you have an advantage over men in generally. Open your ears and listen.
I am autistic to 😊✊️
With my experience, what hurts the most is not just the crass, disgusting and illogical 'Alpha Male' garbage being spurred online, but the casual, subtle sexism I have to endure on the regular by the people I am forced to live with and tolerate. For me, my brothers may not seem misogynistic on the surface, but it's the little moments that unnerve me. When they some shit like "Of course it's a woman" or "A man wouldn't go behind someone's back because it is a man's nature to be up front" or "Feminism is nonsense. Women have nothing to complain about". Moments like these just make me roll my eyes. My brothers really had the nerve to come to me and say shit like that, where I have felt disgusting in my own body from I was twelve when random men would look at me a certain way or say the most obscene things. They complain that men have it harder, but that's not the point. The point is that as human beings we all struggle, but asshats like my brothers disregard the struggle of that other half of humanity just by making everything gendered. It drives me crazy because men like my brother are able to make some backwards thinking sound sensible through the way they manipulate language. And I have to ignore it or zip my mouth because the last time I went up against my brother, this family nearly went upside down. I feel like these women in the podcasts. They are not siting down in silence and nodding because they are in agreement. It's because of the obvious imbalance of power that they find inescapable. When I argue with them, I'm the one who is made the ungrateful and naïve fool. I'm the one who needs to learn my place. I'm the one who needs to show them respect they have never earned.
I felt every word that you typed and I have to say this is one of the reasons why a lot of smart women are single. How can you live or marry a man that thinks that way. My child father thinks this way. When our only child turned three I packed up and left(baby too). I told him I ONLY want to co parent. NOTHING more NOTHING less. I would rather be broke and alone than deal with that issh. Find someone who wants to be ruled. I want a partner. Till this day he is bitter af and blames me for all his problems. Takes no accountability for nothing. Told me I'm going to have to raise our child alone. Smh that's what I walked away from. You don't want to waste your time arguing with certain type of ppl. These "Alpha" are one of "those kind" of ppl. you Just shake your head yes until you find an exit. No one have to put up with this kind of behavior. People need to know when to walk away for good but you would have to love your self to do that.
Men do have it harder there's no question you want 1 sided empathy from men while you call is toxic behind our backs those days are over feminism now has a response
@@phenitagomes1292 you destroyed your family as all modern woman tend to do👏
@@WARxxECONOMY if every woman that confronts you calls you toxic I think you need to chill
@@WARxxECONOMY Every gender has their own issues. It is not a competition. I guarantee you if you got to spend a couple months as a woman, you would switch back as soon as possible and vice versa. Everyone's life is hard but if the women in your life are calling you toxic then you're the common denominator here
Thank you for talking about how the Handmaid's Tale hardly mentions Black women. I am a cishet black male, and I read that book years ago in High school for a Gender Studies class. I didn't get along with the white female teacher at the time, and I remember specifically not caring for the book. None of my white female classmates would ever challenge themselves to think about what enslaved Africans went through ad how much it parallels what happened in the futuristic society.
Yeah. Sadly white women only care when something affects women who look like them
So true. That book & especially that TV show are poster children for white woman feminism. Many fail to realize that the atrocities written in the book are (in some form or another) already happening to BIPOC women
We were even written out the book entirely. The book called us “The Children of Ham” and it was phrased as if we went back to “Africa”. Even though the likelihood is we were likely killed 🙄
In the book Gilead is much more explicitly racist so there are no black handmaidens. It's implied black people were killed off in the purges or had to escape. Although it make sense for the movements Gilead was based on the TV show wanted to have black people in the main cast so they softened the racism of it.
that is by design. upper middle class white women actively try and maintain a racial hierarchy in female representation and especially female beauty standards. this behavior outright qualifies as white nationalist politics. we should all begin to say that out loud, for it is the (very) ugly truth.
If I got a penny every time somebody used "woman" or "gay" as an insult in videogames could already retire even tho I'm just a teen.
Samee
You'd be a trillionaire, all thanks to someone else's ignorance. It would be nice to have haters work free and full time for me too. 👩 👭
Woman and gay are not similar struggles
@@Impossibly_gorgeous Why wouldn't they be similar?
As a boy I put my self in a woman’s shoes and see how I would feel If I was told my only purpose was to be married and have children and it’s awfull I heavily disagree with that belief
Same i don't get how they think women should accept it
usopp is underrated
@Women Hate My Biology amazing name... 😬
Thank you! ❤️
And then you will be called a soyboy
When a Man feel the need to put Women in "their place", he is usually seeing Women as a threat, or a competition! Real Men see Women as someone who can enhance them in their life!
EXACTLY! Real men know the value of having a woman in their life, and it's not transactional.
💯💯💯
Yes!! We are partners above all. We work best together, not against each other
Most BM see bw as competition.
Are you shortsighted or ignorant? How does women enhance men in life?
I honestly want a "I'd rather cornrow grass" shirt
haha!
That one was a bar 😂
@@TeeNoir make it!
Right I never heard that line but it def hit the way it needed too😂
I second that! Hell I'll make one myself and make sure it's quoted by her. 😊
This topic is one of the biggest "god, where do we even begin to unpack this" sort of things to me and you managed to tackle it beautifully (as well as your guests). One element of the video I do want to comment on, as an agnostic person, is that Foreign killed it with the religious part of the discussion. I feel like people are very hesitant to discuss this out of fear of "disrespecting" religion but ultimately... it's faith-based ideology that has an impact on the world. It shouldn't be free from criticism and we shouldn't shy away from acknowledging its guiding force in these issues just because it's treated as fact by some people. I love that your guests were able to acknowledge religion's place the patriarchy while remaining respectful (to me, at least). I hope that element of the conversation makes more people step back and acknowledge how harmful these texts and their interpretations can be without being (legitimately) hateful towards the people that believe in them.
I think people take it out of context to suit their own beliefs and then use that as validation for something that is ultimately wrong or not even an accurate representation of what the religion represents. But I definitely understand your poiny
Foreign is amazing! It was definitely very nice to critically yet respectfully converse with him on such a topic.
@@loisosei9634 This, a million times over.
@@loisosei9634 Eh, it’s definitely the text itself AND the way it’s been interpreted but I didn’t mean to start any back and forth on beliefs so we can agree to disagree about that.
Big time. Religion is a great cover for exploitation and systemic abuse in the name of greater purpose.
Being an aromantic asexual woman, I have heard it all from guys. Everything from "Don't you get lonely?" to "Aren't you afraid of dying alone?" I even heard this from women. Being aro/ace has been a blessing and a curse for me. A blessing because it allowed me to see through the BS indoctrination women are subjected to about relationships/marriage. But a curse because of the social scrutiny and alienation I deal with. Either way, I'm glad I woke up.
If you don't care about being in relationships then way are you watching a video about male female dynamics in a relationship. Sounds like you want to be in a relationship but you are scared or not confident that you can be in a relationship with someone else.
@@myke6135 Aro/ace does not mean you don't care to be in relationships. Why are you trying to interrogate and judge before understanding is the better question.
I get the same thing just for being single. They don't even care why, only that I'm not dtf at all times so therefore something must be "wrong". It's so strange that ppl would attempt to use fear to garner sex and submission. Like, that's what authoritarian regimes do. That's what these men want? So it doesn't matter if I love or even LIKE you? Just as long as I'm afraid and insecure enough to have sex with you as a means of keeping you around? I don't get it. Also, I have a family, genuine & intimate friendships that are long standing. I'm not lonely. I'm going to die surrounded by ppl that actually care for me because I bothered to cultivate human connections and not just the appearance of them. So for the ppl that say things like that to me - I really just pity them.
@@monimuppet6132 The definition of aromantic is "having no interest in or desire for romantic relationships". How is that different from what I said?
@@monimuppet6132 Congratulations you have enough love around you to not need a man. You won.
As a former Kevin Samuels disciple that ruined a few relationships with that doctrine, a lot of men within the manosphere can benefit from some therapy. Much of the manosphere is built upon men’s personal trauma, insecurities, fear and exploitation. Much of the community lacks empathy, perspective and the idea that women are more than what they believe or are shown. These men are just as complex as women because humans have dimensions and aren’t general beings. I stopped watching these podcasts, worked on my own issues and shortcomings through therapy more than a year ago & have had better luck and relationships with women since. I appreciate this video
which is why Kevin Samuels always Said get therapy
I appreciate your transparency.
Glad you are healing from the toxic indoctrination and wanna do better in life.
@@letssgo1921 sure but typically he says that to the women he speaks to. Mr Samuels and creators within the manosphere speak on the hurts of men and elude to trauma but rarely recommend therapy for their male audience. Because frankly, if these young men were to get professional help to navigate the hurts, fears, insecurities and trauma that creates communities like the manosphere they would lose money and viewers. Keep the patient sick so they always have a hospital to pay. It’s a cycle. That’s why rather than a manosphere there should be a push for men’s mental health and emotional wellness.
@@paulbessmanii4975 he says it to everyone who he thinks needs it.
He himself talks about the benefits therapy did for him on several occasions.
It's unnecessary for you to speculate on the desires of the manosphere as a whole. And their knowledge and experience.
Kevin Samuel who had been through therapy recommended it the people who haven't don't. It's that simple.
You can claim there should be a push for men's mental health but until society recognizes the humanity of men they will keep flocking the manosphere for answers.
I find it strange that no one in these podcasts actually give good advice on how to become a decent human being
The advice is usually buried. Most men gravitate to this content after being hurt or dissatisfied in trying to find a woman...
The advice is to find and focus on their purpose and working hard and leave women alone unless they approach u
@@alexanderjones6070 I'd completely understand, but telling young men and boys that women are objects isn't actually helpful is it
@@shaynacameron4530 it’s an analogy objects break and are sometimes unreliable. I look at the mind of a woman now but previously before maturity and experience I looked at mainly body parts (objects) of a woman which is the state of man in mass lol this is why these podcasts exist . Wife the mind of her not her trunk . don’t blame the lil bros who haven’t found the light yet blame the world because young girls & older woman wear it out and males, men, boys are visual creatures u can’t change that ie: men want beauty , stability for women. U don’t want a homeless man do you?? I got the money for it so I’d definitely fw a homeless woman if her mind right and she fine 😭
@@michiganrico2802 Honestly I wouldn't date a homeless man simply because that wouldn't be a normal relationship, imagine someone worrying about the relationship whilst not being in a stable environment
@@shaynacameron4530 see exactly that’s the difference what’s a MAN that’s homeless worrying about a relationship for that’s weird but a woman struggling homeless would get scooped from me and I’d provide for her if like I said she met the metrics that I wanted in a woman . I’d literally get her life stable! Lol this is what the podcasts are for pointing out reality in mating strategies for the opposing genders .. “in general” a GOOD MAN and a GOOD WOMAN move different and if you look deep enough through the messages these guys have that’s what it really comes down to
*the amount of men from all ages ,races and backgrounds that jumped on Kevin post when he past all blaming their dads for running out and moms for raising them is beyond me like the amount of men that sat up and said Kevin was their dad figure just spoke volumes it's like men run out on their sons then get mad when their sons are only being raised by women like wtf who else suppose to try and raise rhe child since u left*
True and when they come back they get the chance to try and if it doesn't work then they can say I'm just not good enough to raise a child..The mother can't do that, it was never a choice for her, it was a responsibility she gained the moment the child was born. The fact that most men are given a choice is absurd.
It's like, would they have cared so much about a non-toxic coach that would have taught them what their dads never taught them? Or is the toxicity what makes attractive?
@@maheenm.k1015 apparently they pick and choose what to listen to because when Kevin would tell them about what men needed to do none of them cared they only gave a damn when he told women that they aren't shit
I briefly dated a guy in college who opened up to me one night about his childhood and how much he struggled after his dad left his family. By the end of the conversation he was telling me how he had forgiven his dad but couldn’t bring himself to forgive his mom. I asked what he needs to forgive her for…”for my dad leaving.” Did she tell him to leave? Did she cheat? Did she hurt him? “No.” Took me a while to date men again after that.
@@Lina32121 When we call them out the claim it as avoiding "accountability " when we are automatically accountable for carrying and caring for the child. The one who ISNT THERE is avoiding accountability🤦🏾♀️ They are dense or just dont want to change at all for the better and tbh its scary and weird as hell bro
As a child I've always heard that feminism is evil and that women are ungrateful, and that's the way God wants the world to be.. and guess what I'm arab.. and you know women in the middle east and north africa are suffering from a lot of things (sometimes if your parents are supporting your education and don't force you to marry before 18 you should consider yourself lucky) .. the funny thing is when I start recognizing these double standards and that the way they treat women in my society is wrong, I always looked at America like the perfect place for women where everyone's treated like a human being regardless of gender ..but when I start learning English, and hearing about this alpha male BS and the manosphere..shaming women for having opinions on things and how they see women as objects and not humans I was shocked, let me tell you USA/EUROPE are a WAAAAY better place for women than where I live(at least there's no "honor" killing, no old men marrying minors, domestic violence is not acceptable...), but women hatred is still exist and sometimes just covered..I can't even tell my older sisters that I'm feminist and that women should not be treated that way and that wanting equal rights doesn't mean that I'm ungrateful and wicked, they're brainwashed, imagine a lot of men here talk just like the fresh and fit podcast dudes casually and it's accepted, I will try my best to educate myself about this and be independent financially and I will NEVER put myself at the mercy of a man who sees me as a subhuman. Thank you sm for your videos and I'm srry for my English I'm still learning 💗🙏 ladies (and especially in countries like mine) be strong 💪 💓
Arab countries and some African countries definitely need to change. Women are really not treated well there. And i believe as women we can decide what we tolerate and what we don’t tolerate. All these men out there disrespecting women are a woman’s son and carried and created in her body for 9 months. That alone should be enough reason for much more respect. We can raise them differently any time. But when they become old it’s too late.
i'm arabe too and i me and my sister are féminists but it's so sad for us to live in those countries so keep up wish you all the best
I'm south american. Women here don't live like Arab or African countries, but the violence against women is rampant. I fully believe it would be even worse if the offenders could get away with it. I sickens me to see men pushing this narrative, they want to backtrack on all women's right. And it really saddens me to see women supporting it.
Sincerely hope women in these countries can conquer their rights. And women here don't lose theirs.
Omg I'm so relieved that I saw this. I'm Iranian and us middle eastern ladies are suffering everyday, no one listens to us.
@@fruitsarelife148 and India
On the Handmaid's Tale part-- I am almost POSITIVE there is record of the author, on being questioned on how she came up with this story, saying that she was able to write all of it because it has happened before. the author herself is literally saying that this is a reality!
It says In the back of the book (acknowledgements/notes section I think) where she got all of her inspiration including firsthand experience of the soviet Union operating when she was in Berlin before the fall of the Wall. Thats where the eyes and culture of mistrust among neighbours and friends who could "tell on you" at any moment came from. There was inevitably some inspiration from the Nazi ss agents for that as well I'm sure
It’s happened several times throughout history. People don’t learn
I did one video about dating for Black women. One. And boy did my comment section blow TF up with "alpha males" with something to say! It's exhausting. I had to go hard on my comment filter. I always wonder how you manage to keep your channel zen. 🙏🏾 You did that girl
Subbed
Damn they probably came hard on you, those men are monsters
@@keikei1943 It definitely gave me some perspective on how celebrities must feel. The comments are extremely toxic and very hard to consume.
@@keikei1943 monsters is the right word. I don't know why they fucks with women if they don't even like women. A bunch of bullies.
I don't understand. People can only comment with agreement or praise, if not they're a troll?
It's so strange that these alpha men think that a woman should be the archetype of compassionate and nurturing because that's what they're "bred to do" but also will turn around and argue that women feel nothing for men and use them as they please. Which one is it?
its whatever narrative suits them (males) being the victims
They don't know. They're confused
Could you elaborate. I’m confused about the connection between compassionate/nurturing and using men as they please.
@@butterflymage5623 how is using people compassionate and nurturing?
@@thekalenichannel1812 that’s what I’m asking.
I have the same fear. I’m not ashamed of wanting children, my body is naturally made for it. However, I’m willing to be ok with not having them if these are the kind of men that’s available. I’ll never risk my life for this kind of trash.
Yesss thissss!! No woman should have to ever! Vet vet and never stop vetting men. Women have a ton lot more to lose in this life.
@@checynhadi2815 even when you vet they ain’t ish.
Good for you
I'm in the same boat but in reverse, I'm a straight white man.
@@stratosphere2323 ok virgin
Nobody is more insecure than a man who wants to be alpha
no one is more dumb than a woman who wants to dismantle the patriarchy
Insecurity is more often realism. Over confidence is more often delusion.
@@edtastic Haven't you idiots heard and healthy self esteem thats in the middle?
It shows when they call decent men simps or betas it’s bitterness. they know they can’t compete with the better man.
@@jackielaurens they don't simply call those men simps. They don't want to be simps. They don't want to be taken advantage of.
This “alpha” and “beta” male discussion in our community just sounds so corny to me. Everyone just wants to be heard, respected and acknowledged. If you need a woman to treat you like a daddy than just admit that. Those women are available but don’t be surprised when you start realizing that shit is really one sided🤷🏽♀️
Yep!
The plainest words can also be the truest. 100%
they don't care as long as you comply but as you said if you want a super submissive women you will have a one sided relationship.
I feel like they truly don’t know what they want. Because how can you want a submissive stay at home woman but also get upset when you have to take care of her every need because she’s completely dependent on you. Honestly sounds like they want a pet.
@@kladies3021 I think the issue will increase as women gain more independence
Anyone who calls a man a simp because he treats his girlfriend/wife with love & respect is probably a sociopath
You got it wrong my g. You can do that to a girlfriend and wife without being a simp. But when you give just some random woman or friend those same benefits with the intent of dating her but you're too scared to ask or if she rejected you already that's when you're a simp because you only doing it to impress and date her it ain't genuine. Either the way you heard it was stupidly wrong or you just cappin.
@@sso4449 Constanly calling a woman beautiful, praising her existence, and trying any and everything to impress her is not showing respect. Respect looks more like treating someone like a human being and not their rare source of ass.
@@sso4449 Yes. When you have ulterior motives to that and if either the writing is on the wall that the woman is less reputable or the goal is s*x and nothing beyond that, it's predatory.
@@xLamont_ Most usages of SIMP don't follow its original definition because it went mainstream, when it went mainstream people have been using it for almost any and everything a man does involving a woman.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18 True
I feel equal parts pity, disgust and fear when ever I come into contact with the manosphere. I kinda hate that I can't help but pity them, knowing they would never offer such sympathy to me.
Same! Ugh
I’m learning that I have to avoid those videos for my own sanity! What’s worse is the rise of female panderers who are just pick-me’s in disguise. If we truly had people of both sexes speaking to their own sex about how we can come back together as a community, we could make some progress.
I’m past pity with them. Roe killed that pity like a stake through the heart of a vampire.
Literally so many mentions of handmaids tail lately, seriously so many people have yet to make the connection that its based on events that ALREADY happened.
I’ve been saying this for a while. People really don’t pay attention to the world we live in
Bingo!!!
Exactly! Isn’t overturning Roe vs. Wade a step in that direction? 🧐
There's a commentary on incel ideology that needs to happen in the black community. But for us to even stage that, we need to acknowledge not only misogynoir but how restrictive and harmful binary thought can and has been when it comes to gender.
@@Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime Obvious bate is obvious.
Absolutely!!!! And frankly.... I feel like the community as a whole is being highjacked by these fools to the point where me and several of my black friends are actively wondering if we'll ever be able to find good black partner. I don't want to generalize but at the same time... A good non-religious, feminist, LGBTQIA++ friendly black men is hard to find in these streets XD
I agree
That commentary seriously needs to be for all communities
@@ikilledthemoon I think she means a fem boy but will be better off with an actual female
In college as a naive 21 year old I fell for this shit hook line and sinker. I was conservative and religious. I wanted kids and these ideologies led me to believe I wanted 5+ kids with a like-minded person. Thank goodness I finished law school without getting barefoot and pregnant. I got treated for depression and got a good job. Now career is on track and I'm a childfree, feminist cat lady. These manosphere bros depend on manipulating impressionable young people.
Same goes for feminism sister. They’re indoctrinated at a very young age as well
@@Sword_of_Flames Based feminism saving girls from the manosphere
So how are you now mentally? And how old are you this is an interesting response in what seems to be the dismantling of the family structure for the future moving forward.
@@Sword_of_Flames Literally everyone is indoctrinated at a young age
Nothing beats a hard working woman and her cat lol
My co worker's family member just killed a week ago by the hands of someone she was involved with romantically and sadly she was found by her children. I know not all black men are bad but the ones who hate women especially there own kind is like so soul crushing. Wont go into to much detail out pf respect but her last moments was a nightmare from what my coworker said.💔😣
That's so incredibly sad, may she rest in peace 🙁
@@eurekamreum5458 thank you
May she rest in peace, we truly live in a terrible world.
I can't consume this kind of content as a "cringe-fest" the way some men (and women, rarely) can because it's so beyond just "cringey". it's vile, cruel and these perspectives on women and their "place" are a lot more prevalent than any of us realize. I have no faith in the patriarchy being dismantled in my lifetime and watching those videos just affirms that belief.
I would agree but those guys being azzholes get way more girls than i can, i only had like 3 gfs and im 26, that means theres a bunch of azzhole women like them and thats way more then im getting
It hurts to hear that people think about other people this way
Same. I also can't watch it because I can't keep my mouth shut. I'll Wade into the comment sections and start throwing elbows.
@umar b patriarchy is constructed by men thus it’s men’s responsibility to dismantle it. Just like how racism is white peoples problem & not the responsibility of people of color.
And women being paid less for their labor is still a real issue. There are reasons why women look for financial providers. Pay gap still exist even in developed countries & women still face the issue of lack of education and work opportunities outside the home in developing countries.
totally. ppl try to react to it in a funny way and make jokes about it but for me it’s too real to be funny. sure, these guys sound ridiculous and laughable to US, but when i see these men i know they have millions of followers, millions of other men who think like them. men you know, men u walk past every day. and it’s not just on the internet, many shootings are committed by ppl in the incel/red pill community, women are being murdered by their male partners daily. the effects of this rhetoric is real and it’s seriously effecting the younger generations of men growing up consuming this content. it makes me lose hope for humanity.
You know, I _might_ not have such an issue with "men taking care of women" if any of the men who pushed that idea *actually* did it...
Edit: I see a lot of y'all can't read, so you just kinda made up some words that I didn't even write and chose to be mad about those. NOTED.
Lol they want to control you not take care of you because if that was the case we wouldn’t hv to choose they want you to be cripple in order to take care of you you can’t be independent it’s bullshit if your independent then that means in their brain your masculine
I believe the dude from the poor mans podcast fits that narrative. Young Don is also married.
“Provide and protect” literally the only people who I’ve met who do that are women 😐
Right they want control that’s it that’s all
I have this feeling that many younger men think that working 40-50 hours is all they gotta do. I bet their own father did stuff after coming home from work and so many women also start to work when the kids are in school or kindergarten.... it's like at most 5 years they are the main bread winner. Also they associate protecting with literally physical protection when I think it has more to do with taking care of wife + kids the same way the mother is and if so cook for the family when mom can't or jusz stuff after birth. That is how you protect
Whenever I hear men use these code phrases such as “high value” or “alpha male”, I know exactly the type of guy he is. I’m so glad they give themselves away. This foolishness saves me so much of my precious energy.
This 100000000%
Girl yes, I run for the hills as soon as they talk that foolishness 🏃🏽♀️
They attract pick mes
@@butterflygirl01 and women who use the term "pickme" are... WHAT, exactly?
@@christopherbrown5409 Not pick mes.
it's always funny when these men complain about women not liking them....
it's almost like their ideology drives women away....
These men made me a misandrist for a while. I had to do a lot of inner work to release my hate for men and realize that not all men are like that. Now I just pity those people who believe things like these. And the women that end up with them.
This is where F.D Signifier helped me a lot, as well as my own partner. We need to see more LOVING men and men who are passionate about harmless things. It’s the whole toxic masculinity issue I think. I respect men who show love, empathy and respect. Men who want to stand next to women.
I briefly dipped into this mindset after many bad experiences with men but coming back home to my brothers always reminds me that there is good respectful men out there. I hope there is a future where gender doesn’t play a prominent role in how people view each other
@@tally3067 he's great!
It can be such a struggle sometimes. I'm incredibly lucky to have grown up with a father and brother who believe in feminist principles and actually lived by them - I always have that example to fall back on when I feel overwhelmed by the amount of toxicity out there. Especially my dad who was raised in a very sexist environment in the 60s/70s but was still able to see through that and understand women were fully human the same way he was. It is possible for men to see through social conditioning. It is possible for men to have enough integrity to reject the privilege and power offered to them by patriarchal society and choose to engage with how that hierarchy affects others. Sadly it's pretty rare, and most women I know didn't have those examples and weren't shown that care and respect by men in their lives. It can be really hard to hold onto the idea of "not all men" if (almost) all the men you actually encounter in your environment are toxic. That's why it's important for the good men out there to speak up and show themselves - as an example for both young men and women who lack positive male role models.
Ashley_Brown No you were already a misandrist. No one can make you into one
They're just predators who are trying to groom young women.
agree
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i thought women preferred older men
@@iamahero3246 maybe the damaged ones
@@iamahero3246 I think it depends and older not old men. Older also mean even an hour older. The ones with old men usually want something monetary or trying to fix her wounded inner child if she had a shit father figure.
So glad the manosphere bubble is being poked. Men who feel like a slave to their government need a way to channel that frustration and its often taken out on women.
The government that they are mostly represented in
@@kissit012 The government represents its OWN interests first and foremost which is why so many average men don’t feel truly represented even by an entity that is made up of “their kind”. The gender gap and where we fail to understand each other is created through this.
@@tdk97 I would add my suspicion that a lot of division in our society comes down to government as well as media manipulation. Divide and conquer!
@@joelmartin5887 agreed. Emphasize class, race, gender & sex distinctions and let the in-fighting protect you from being overthrown by a unified collective.
Now this is a complex take, a large apart of the problem and I’d almost argue the bigger picture
I accidentally landed on an "alpha male" video where a guy asked his fellow "alpha males" which race of women was the least submissive...
I'm pretty sure we all know who they chose. The question itself was already disgusting, but the comments answering were absolutely atrocious. However, the comment that caught my attention the most because it was ironic, was the black man that said "they're too busy trying to be men. It's because they don't have a father growing up, so their mothers have to be the man of the house. The daughters copy the mother."
Even if we were to believe in that bullshit, he basically blamed black women for being "less submissive" due to their missing father figure...a black man. So if black daughters are "less submissive" due to lack of a father figure...wouldn't that make black sons...more submissive by lacking a father figure? How are they "alpha males" then?
The mental gymnastics they have to play to justify their weird logic...
not even good logic
If men can't talk amongst each other without downing women and correcting men in their bullshit then I don't involve myself in it. Men should come together to bring solutions not worry about what women are doing
Solution is to understand why women do what they do. Knowing this nature will assist you as you pursue your purpose. That's the only solution for man, pursue your purpose
@Dee we need women to marry and have kids with, thats apart of a mans purpose … the whole point of manosphere is for men to tell eachother how to be better men , workout eat good invest money and find the qualified women who’s not for the world , its that simple … why isnt anyone calling out the bullshit that women do its always “men are trash men are that” when in fact HUMANS CAN BE TRASH and that there are good men and women out there ? Why cant men call out womens bullshit without being labeled a misogynist ? Where are the videos of women calling out the bullshit of the feminist agenda ? Lol
@Dee 🎯💯
AND teach men to pick better women.
@@giftkorope5968 you can’t find your purpose in somebody else. Find yourself. You should not be dependent on validation from external sources
What freaks me out is there's no way in hell one of these guys doesn't beat their partners.
And they're confidently spreading the potential partner beating ideology.
Don't blame abuser on Manosphere. Manosphere has actually highlighted the double standards and how more man are abused on the regular but yall won't care about that
A lot of em definitely do, I’ve seen podcasts where mean are condoning violence against women just for talking back🤨😭
I wouldn’t put it past most of them tbh.
Most of them fall into the dark triad personality types so I am not surprised. Others can actually heal if they self reflect and seek different forms of healing such as therapy or PTSD yoga etc but again most cannot and will not self reflect and face their own shadows or trauma.
BETA MALE
Too much Misogynoir on a Monday 😮💨thank you for including me, Tee 🙏🏾 big up ya self. Waiting on that Caribbean cunnilingus video too 👀
The what now 👀
@@tempesttossed6029 lol sub her patreon and stay tuned
I hate Mondays
@@ForeignManinaForeignLand wayment!
Foreign why u haffi spoil di surprise 😑🤣🤣 thanks again for your participation bredda
Truly one of the saddest had been seeing so many women support their message and platform. Especially Kevin Smauels, the amount of black women and women in general that supported the hatred he put out was deeply disturbing.
Likeee one of my friends support them abs it’s like no wonder you constantly crying to me…
Kevin samuels did not put out hatred you just sound like someone who take defense to ppl opinions an reality
@@shiro8641 he did put out hatred and your defensive comment and quickness to be on the attack proves my point
My ultimate takeaway from all of the manospehere is that we don't need men like we used to and men of today have been taught by men of yesterday that we need to commit and submit to them like we used to have to and they don't know how to handle it.
Of course there's more, but that's my overall belief.
There's literally a video on RUclips of a black man complaining to a white man about the fact that women don't need men like they used to back when women had no access to wealth and resources unless given to them by men, and how now that makes the average man who makes average money obsolete. It was more specific for black men and women because of the Goldman and Sachs pledge to donate money to black female entrepreneurs and because black women are generally more educated than their male counterparts which could then lead to more money. The only thing I could think of was a quote by the late Toni Morrison in regards to white people and racism. "If you can only be tall because someone is on their knees, then you have a very serious problem."
Sounds about rigjt
Well then single life is where we going. Marriage is an olden institution and thus with modern thinking yall shouldn't seek this
Facts
@@giftkorope5968 To an extent, that is true. Marriage provides legal and financial rights and securities, though, so on a functional level it is still an attractive option to many people. Fact is my bf and I will pay less in taxes overall if we get married; we will automatically hold power of attorney rights and be able to take care of each other if one of us becomes vulnerable or at risk; our future children (if we decide to have them) will benefit from our shared assets; we will share medical benefits and gain access to discounted plans for shared luxuries; and many more. If we can work on those gaps and smooth obstacles for non-married people then, yes, marriage will truly be antiquated and unnecessary as anything other than a personal/religious choice.
They talk to Instagram baddies who have no opinions on anything on their broadcasts and use that to justify their mentality.. really sick
Chile
Write in and go speak on their shows, there are women also in the Manosphere. Women with more brains then what I'm seeing here search @deedee & @melanie King & @RebeccaBarret just to name a few but I'm sure you'll lable them "pick mes"
Gift Korope “women with brains” 😆😆😆
@@es-jm5fg yes, women that can remove their feelings and judge a situation logically. They do that all I heard in this video is just emotions not logic to why certain things happen
@@giftkorope5968 You again...Melanie is very smart. She found herself a niche. Not a necessarily a pick me but there’s obviously a catch. I do notice how she rarely talks on men’s issues or problems just mostly how “modern women are bad” and how men have it so tough. I can take a woman seriously who plays down issues they themselves face to appease viewers. She’s beautiful and knows men will flock to her if she makes her channel a certain way. Most of those channels you listed the men don’t listen to her message but just act desperate in the woman’s comments. If she looked like Leslie Jones from SNL y’all wouldn’t pay attention. If that’s women with brains you are willingly being blind. Just because some don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they don’t have a brains. You must consume all that content on the daily. Now your other comments about marriage makes sense.
I had to stop the video because I have NEVER heard the phrase “I’d rather cornrow grass” 😂😂😂 I NEED A SECOND
Im stealing that one 😂😂😂
Honestly, these men horrify me and I don't want to date at all until all this bullshit has fizzled out and people learn that "hey, maybe being misogynistic isn't actually helping me to be a better person". Ik way too many abusive and disrespectful black men within my life who have the same sorta mentality and i refuse to put myself through pain and suffering just bc people refuse to go to therapy and decide to take out their anger out on others.
Black men mostly feel the same way about BW. Which is why these groups are so popular and still growing
@@BigAjiawell keep doing that and leave black woman alone
@@oh.hey.2045 Naw we'll run y'all through the ground first then we'll get on
@@BigAjia and why is that
@@kenos911 because both sides uber toxic and dysfunctional, idk how yall think thats going to work
You deserve a treat or two for doing this video, the exposure to these ideas and logics are scary as hell. Thank you for doing this, I might watch this in small portions...
For real. I have to keep pausing
it'll take me a week to watch this, but we will get there.
I read a lot of biographies. The wives are always long-suffering and self sacrificial, especially when their spouse is high profile. Marriage is NOT for everyone.
Good luck to you modern broads who desire marriage because gen z is running away from that, because they know it's not worth it.
Marriage isn't for everyone, very true. I never had that dream of being someone's wife. All the wives I saw were just glorified maids to their ungrateful husbands, it never made sense to me. I would rather be single forever than to be in that type of relationship.
@@L12094 same. Even as a child I thought that. I always thought it was strange why so many women wanted to get married.
But marriage favours women the courts the courts see 2 that because they get a cut because they get a cut at of men pay check
@@davidspearim5552 not true in a marriage a woman has access to hypothetically 100% of his property. In divorce it's 50% only for the US cause here it's 20-25% and if the man blatantly refuses to pay for alimony the case can be drawn for decades. I've seen women dying before getting a single penny of compensation 😂😂😂😂😂....
The moment I hear a man say “alpha” I walk away and end the conversation. If you have to say your an alpha you definitely aren’t lol.
WHY haven't I found your beautiful, intellectual and poignant self EARLIER! I am so glad to come across your channel and I am MORE than ready to have these discussions with other sister like yourself!
She's not well spoken unless you have poor vocabulary and prefer long winded over succinct. Comes across as someone trying very hard to sound intelligent when they only sound educated
@@mastaflexfulshit, has it always been defined that way? Im not very educated in the ways of Websters and I do know that language has deteriorated as a result of whats been adopted/redefined. We're in the middle of altering alot of long established words these days.
@@Chronzinteresting that you're saying this considering you just used the whole bunch of $20 words and literally said nothing.
I think the biggest gift the manosphere gave me as a black woman is showing me all the people who really are not here for me simply because I’m a black woman who knows my worth. Because of this I’ve withdrawn my power and advocacy for anyone who isn’t a black woman or child.
Same
This!!!
That’s you most individuals don’t exclude others based on a online sector of individuals.
@@imanigordon6803 the evidence is everywhere in life. Online just keeps the record
@@kissit012 If that’s the case we can take everything online and take it as gospel. So I should believe that every black woman is a angry person to talk to and a baby mama due to videos on record on RUclips? Are you seriously using that logic?
"... and women are supposed to like it." Some of them truly, genuinely believe this in the depths of their soul. Believe it to the point of getting pissed at you for simply passing on them altogether. It's not enough to just move on to the next, to seek a partner that wishes to live as they command (cause they out there). No, it has to be ALL of us. We must ALL comply. Never.
As a woman who is supposedly in "no man's land" due to my age, I went through a period of consuming some manosphere content and it did affect my sense of self and I did feel bad about some of my choices. Then I realised even with my flaws and poor choices, I am still too good for most of them dusties. 💅
Never underestimate the confidence of mediocre (white) men. It's the card they play the most when they're scared.
No you’re not you have little to no valuy
"As a woman" 🤓
@@Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime don’t get offended snowflakes🤷♀️
Exactly! Don't let them define u based on age or race or appearance or anything! It's their elementary way of putting down women who intimidate them, hoping and wishing for a chance! It's like when boys used to want a girl and when she'd reject him he'd call her ugly blah blah! 😂 Very childish! And to think brown men still use the same tactic! So embarrassing 😂. I rather be ALONE than settle. That says more about them then me 😂.
Okay I saw a video of one alpha male podcast where one girl said: ' I think a woman should know what a man wants and understand him and respect him because she is a representative of him then she said she believes that women should be quiet at a social function and just look good for their men." You can't imagine how impressed the men at the podcast looked when she said that.
Girl so if he disrespect you at a social function you just stay quiet and look good for him??!
And another women was giving her opinion and the guy was like ' We don't care what you think. ..' like what are they doing 😕
What’s funny is that the few pastors that I listen to online and my local pastor do not totally agree with that either! They teach a lot about submission, but they also hold the men accountable and have wives that don’t allow them to talk to them any kind of way.
Lol 😂 "who's a good girl yes you are" 🐶
For real I think those guys just want a sex doll at this point but they would sound crazy saying it directly so they make up all these excuses to sound better lmao.
@@frosty3467 This . A Barbie doll with real body parts who doesn't talk or have a soul.
Honestly, these males with mics genuinely terrify me with the way they talk about women sometimes. They literally don't even see us as human beings - just good or bad looking objects to be possessed and possibly discarded whenever the real humans(men) get bored or determine that we're no longer valuable.
Send these males with mics to the hand maids tale world because that’s what it sounds like they want. But I doubt they’d last two seconds there
And god forbid a woman gets past the age of 25, then she isn’t even worthy of being possessed.
@@kayla2287 which is really sad and that scares me and makes me angry because I just turned 24. Will never understand why people think 25 is old. 🙄
@@theezzie Honestly, I think most people acknowledge that 25 is young. It’s just men inside the manosphere. I have a suspicion that if the age of consent was lowered to 12, they’d choose wives of that age.
They're dangerous
As Alpha Male podcasts and how startlingly common their sentiments are is so depressing. They’re essentially looking for slaves in the women they date. Who the fuck looks for “Submissiveness” in a partner. That’s deranged.
While i do disagree with most "alpha male" rhetoric, I dont think there is anything wrong with wanting submissiveness in a partner, so long as you dont intend to abuse that quality.
@@CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul Gross.
@@maleahlock Not really. Submissiveness and subservience are not the same thing. I think what youre really thinking of is actually subservience.
@@CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul No, they're both gross
@@CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul I think it’s okay if that’s what’s agreed on, but to expect that out of someone? Or look for that as a quality? That’s kind of weird and predatory, because why do you want someone to be submissive to you? (outside of consensual romantic and sexual endeavors/just in general) Essentially you’re probably looking to have power over someone if that is a “natural quality” you look for in a partner. And that is kinda gross.
I don't know if you have talked about this topic yet but I feel like SOME feminine coaches doctrines should be considered part of this conversation, as similarities can be seen between alpha male teachings and femininity coaches teachings.
I so agree
yes yes yes!
@Reesie In what way are BWE oppressing Black males and are directly telling them that they need women to be of any value?
BWE is a reaction to the Black males GENERATIONAL Opression on Black women that we have taken in silence for Decades, The unequal treatment experienced in our own community because we girls ans told to put BM first, and Colorism which is enforced in the same way racism is with the outside groups, that being the Black male oppresses us on even the basics of how we look which is not something we can control.
The space is to encorage Black women to WALK AWAY from that abuse and to leave these men to their own devices.
I notice anytime Black women respond and want to care for self, everyone finds issue with it.
Nothing that is said by by specfically big BWE platforms like Paris Milian or Chrissie, speaks ill or for harm on males. Extermeists exist in some Divestment groups which is what you are conflating here with BWE, but BWE itself is to Empower the Black woman.
So please explain how we are the same in reverse?
This!!!
Any dating coaches are just pure garbage. Unless they tell you the importance of becoming authentic to yourself they are selling snake oils.
I am a 40 year old black female that wanted to be a mother more than a wife. At 37 I was artificially inseminated and had a beautiful baby girl. I am now trying for baby number two. We all have different paths and for some women that does not include a husband. My older brother is a Hebrew Israelite and is disgusted by my choices and the fact I chose not to be a baby mama but a single mother by choice.
How's it going for you? Would genuinely love to hear.
@@youngbloodtv254 it is going great I have a cycle coming up in early 2023 hopefully that will be successful and I end up pregnant. All in all motherhood is amazing I have an amazing support system that helps me raise my child.
Some things in this world are beyond you and your ability to control them, and a child's need to know their father is one of them. It's a hole that you will not be able to fill. I know this from experience.
@@wtfdoihavetodohere my daughter will be allowed to contact her bio father when she is 18. Until then she has a wonderful father figure in her uncle and grandfather. That will have to be enough
@@vizeas selfish woman. the child still lacks her biological father in her life and you already made the choice of not giving her a choice 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ women ☕️
Kevin Samuels talked about how women who had standards would die alone but he ended up being the one who died alone....with an escort (not a girlfriend, fiancee or wife) albeit but alone none the less. A good example of the manosphere is on the show Bridgerton where a lady's currency was her rep as an innocent virgin while the men slept with everyone they could. It's an awesome that shows the ridiculous double standards between genders. The young women on the show literally know little to nothing about sex & baby making & they're in mid teens to early maybe even mid 20s. Things most of us know by our early tweens these girls were completely unaware.
As an indian i have a bad habit of writing off anything british but that show was actually fascinating in its portrayal. Its rly astounding shit how insane patriarchy is lol esp colonial patriarchy
Kevin Samuels was everything he dragged women for. He was a renter. No family, except his mother. He was single and over 40. He only had $1,000 in his bank account. I'm not happy he's dead, but I'm unhappy that since he's dead, he can't see himself being exposed as a fraud.
Women need to stop listening to these so-called “relationship gurus”. They're always divorced at least once. They always think that being “honest” means telling women they're fat or unattractive. It's never advice, it's always criticism of women. Why go to them for advice when you would probably be better off talking to a friend?
they go after the same women they "despise", it's cuz they project their insecurities onto women, they know a respectable and lovely woman would never look their way ANYWAY bc they refuse to let their pride go, therefore they'll just make every woman seem approachable or just devalue her to feel secure w that. It's really a shame.
@@wife0fsunwoo they demean those women in an attempt to destroy their confidence too!!! They don’t want to have to compete for the attention of women, so if they get with a woman who has a lot of options they’re gonna make her feel less than in an attempt to make her question her value
Wasn't she a nurse? A sneaky link?
36:18 I never understood this about the Caribbean, specifically Jamaica. They'll fight to the bone to say it's a Christian nation, recite the scripture, sing the gospel, make a daily prayer, and actively bring up God in casual conversation, yet when you look around those Christian values are barely upheld. The men are supposed to be God-fearing but rarely take their kins up to church. Women and men are supposed to marry and start families, yet 47% of children are fatherless and 80% are born out of wedlock. Love thy neighbor yet the killing and backstabbing are at an all time high. But God forbid a chi chi man car rolls up. And from what I've seen in marriages, the women will be in charge of everything yet still call the husband the head of the household. It's always your grandmother holding the family together.
While there are exceptions, I can't help but wonder why this is the standard
Most of these things are true, but to crucify Caribbean countries as if we're the worst of the lot is not it. All of these things you loathe are a direct effect of colonialism, forced religious conversion, and slavery. This isn't unique to just us but go off.
@@sseraphim2818 Can you point to the part where I "crucify Caribbean countries" for making an objective observation on issues that contradict the countries' values? (And for the record I said "specifically Jamaica"). Stop putting words in people's mouths, I never said they were the worst. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy that constantly gets swept under the rug. Ignoring these issues because "we're not the worst" is a poor excuse, and slavery and colonialism shouldn't excuse these either.
@@NeroMai as someone living in the caribbean, your points are pretty spot on. i mean just today i had an argument with someone i know geting mad about lgbt being more prevalent in barbados. like people legit get mad that some people arent cis or straight. at this point im tired trying to tell them other wise, we have known to be stubborn, so they can angrily cry themselves to sleep at night while i sleep peacefully.
also that part about the christians....hits too close to home
This parallels modern Latin communities so much. Childlike men are such a turn off. Im tired of being groomed by my family to take care of a husband. No. He’s not a child or is he sick, or disabled. We work equal, we tend to the house equally. I’m dating out!
Not sure about anyone else but… I’m special af!🤣🤣🤣 Don’t let this content get you down instead use it to learn. Do your own research and enjoy the journey it’s a trip🥰 Tee thank you for all you do and speak🥰🥰🥰🔥🔥🔥
What makes you special…Please elaborate?
@@Colt19 well “I’m the best nigga in the world” what makes her special is the fact that there’s only ONE of her. You will never find another one of her,try as you might.
Yes you are indeed.
@@itslonda4157 🙄… that still doesn’t make her “special”.. no one is “special” I’m sure there is black women jus like her who think the same way..she pays taxes and is gonna die one day like the rest of us..
@@Lina32121 So are you beautiful 🥰
I am a 6’4, 350k dollar earning, African American male Dentist, of 30 years of age. At 19:20 in this video, you completely challenged my point of view…. Wow. I searched for content to challenge all of the red pill ideologies that have become prevalent in my life these days. The men and women around me have been gassing m up, and much of the red pill theories have been creating a sense of entitlement for me and thereby dissatisfaction with what I have been happy with for many years prior to becoming a high earner. Thank you for your perspective. I’m a subscriber now.
Amazing!
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It's so hard to be rich and good looking 😭😭
was your height and status really needed to be Stated the only part the woman saw was ur height and status
@@rockstxrs It did. It qualifies my opinion. You cared enough to comment.
The older I get the sicker I feel that young women still have to live in a world like this. Navigating through this shit myself is one thing but when I think about women Tee's age and younger being exposed to it I feel such desperation. My generation failed to stop it.
Your generation started the bigger problem, it's why so many former feminists are informing the manosphere of the lies of feminism
Funny part is. For all of these podcasters , there ARE pickmeshas who co-sign and want what they preach. My solution is for us to ignore them and let the pickmeshas have them. On the flip side, many of their platforms should also be struck down because it radicalizes men and the majority of ones who do hate crimes against females, they tend to listen to podcasts like this
Ironically, "alpha males" don't want pick-mes. The pleasure they truly seek derives from breaking a "strong independent woman". They want the ones they either have been, or feel they would be, rejected by to submit. But once she does the thrill is gone, they're empty once again. No amount of women bowing at their feet will ever be enough. They'll get more and more vile and more and more depressed. It's something within themselves they must remedy. Throwing pickmeshas at them won't be enough to keep them off the internet unfortunately 😕.
@@monimuppet6132 the only reason any of these manosphere goons have platforms is because of the outrage women, especially black women, publicly have. Ignoring them will hurt their pockets because we ARE the content. They do things like this to garner our attention. They do it partially for men, majority for a bag and entertainment. If we paid them dust, they’d never blow up. Black outrage, especially that of the black woman, is very lucrative.
@Ayman Hussein That was weak. Reducing it all down to "instincts" is essentially waving a white flag, excusing yourself from any individual growth. My comment was not upholding womankind over mankind but the fact that's what you interpreted says a few things about you. So you can read the matrix yet the only thing you gleaned was 'it is what it is'? Your resignation to sit on the fence while watching the gender wars is cowardice, not wisdom and definitely not superiority. You can take your little benign, rudimentary assessment elsewhere. Your adventures on both sides of the aisle have made you no more enlightened because you still came out only seeing those two sides. What a bore.
@Ayman Hussein spot on!
@Ayman Hussein I think this is an oversimplified view. Of course if you go to two extremes, you will realize the similarities. Misogynists and misandrists have a big thing in common: sexism. But if you look at the reasons why these groups feel this way there will be differences, usually because their values are COMPLETELY different. (Obviously sexism is wrong either way)
Manosphere me and (Non-misandrist) Feminists want power and control, but do they want power and control of the same things? The whole point of the original feminist movements was for women to gain power control over their *own* life, not their husband's. They wanted reproductive rights, monetary stability for themselves, the right to vote and work. Basic things that lead to autonomy. The reason so many of these manosphere types hate feminism is because women don't NEED men like women used to, therefore the only incentive women have to settle down with a man is because she WANTS to (and for a lot of women if they had to choose between being single and settling down with a self proclaimed "high value man / alpha male" they will choose to be single, myself included). Women can afford to be single now.
My point for all this is to say that men in the "manosphere" are not here to take back control over themselves (women don't have control over men) they want control and power over women, they want women to NEED them and they want those women to like the fact that they need them. Because if a woman has a job (or any basic necessity), what can a "high value man" provide them? What makes him useful? Why else would a woman want to be with a man if not for monetary stability and protection? Apparently these men don't know what love or an equal partnership is.
Please Lord help us recover as a species from the disease that is the Fresh & Fit podcast.
🤣🤣 Amen.
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16:50 BRUH. THIS IS *EXACTLY* WHAT I TOLD MY BROTHER ABOUT HIS THING WITH THESE ALPHA MALE PODCASTERS. I told him that if you think about what they say even a LITTLE by asking yourself "but why tho?" you'll see so many flaws in what they're saying and that the issues are more complex and the answers are not so straight forward. But ofc what these men want is straightforward and easy answers. No thoughts behind those eyes 😐😐😐
Theres no hope for them. They’re all brain fried coomers that will soon be bred out of existence. The sooner the better. 👏🏽
I’m the type of woman who definitely wants a partner and kids. I’m determined to have kids whether I get a partner or not 🤷🏾♀️I’m definitely a hopeless romantic and I realized I’m bi rather recently so idk I want a partner and I do believe I can get one. I’m not sure how much fear I hold for the alternative
In the end it’s up to you and whatever partner that you find, but I do think it’s worth considering how much do you really want it. Maybe there’s more value in being single.
@@AsteroSloth in this moment I don’t want a relationship and do enjoy being single however I do want a partner at some point. I feel like both sides of this conversation is a little condescending. I wants kids and a partner the same way I want my dream job. It’s a passion. I want kids more than a partner but I live romance and I don’t think that’s wrong 🤷🏾♀️ it’s something I want and something I’m aloud to want. It doesn’t have to be for everyone but the same way we should believe women who say they don’t ever want kids or a partner and accept that that’s ok we should also let women say they want those things and it not be an inherent reflection of some sort of internal issue.
@@sobbos8975 yeah no I think that everyone, although women a lot more because of that whole biological clock shenanigan, has this pressure to get married and make a family and all that funky shit. I was a happily coupled ace man until two weeks ago so honestly I’m in a “FUCK RELATIONSHIPS DAWG” mood rn but in the end if you want to make that choice I just hope you do it smarter than I did 🥲
@@AsteroSloth lol ok I feel you 😂😂 like I said I’m not too far from where you’re at either but it’s just something I’m comfortable with wanting for the future lol thanks
I love that you know what you want… and that you’re also fluid, bc inner change is just as constant as the world changing around you. I thought I’d want another relationship after my Daughter’s father, but my empty bed still feels good after 6 yrs. I want a relationship after my daughter is older bc childhood trauma makes it hard for me to trust men around her who aren’t her Father… and I want someone who is already a parent. But I’m also willing to die single… just no cats! Lol
What sucks is that I watch this, get upset momentarily, and then go on about my life knowing that these guys still exist and still believe these things and proceed to spread this ideology to tons of other men who will eat it up. Very dangerous.
That's literally me. 😂
Yup! Like what even is the solution???? 🤨
Same.
As a guy, there's only so much you can tell these types to convince them otherwise. For the moment, I just gotta accept only being able to hopefully pull a few people out of the rabbit hole at a time, while also accepting that some women might just assume I'm in that rabbit hole myself for various reasons. No idea what the blanket solution would be honestly.
@@normandy2501 Fr, if you oppose them as a man, you're a simp, if you're a woman, your opinions never meant anything to being with, and if you're nb or anything else, you don't even exist in their eyes.
@@normandy2501 Well you've got my support. Doing or saying anything _tactfully_ is always better than nothing.
The best comeback to this energy is to be the “masculine” woman. Match the level of confidence they aim to have and watch them crumble. You don’t even need to invest time to reply and when you do they just 🤯🤯🤯
True but I get exhausted being in all that negativity! I just roll eyes and walk away. To me thats ultimate peace of mind! 🙏 let those losers yell and scream and make a fool of themselves.
Personally I don't care to have a comeback at all. I've found that even something as simple as "matching energy" can be interpreted as validation. Whether I'm masculine, feminine or whatever my outside appearance or energy is I said what I said lol
You can’t make sociopaths or psychopaths crumble
@@keandrethegoat1169 you definitely can lol but maybe because I’m a bit of a sociopath myself. Except I’m self aware, I don’t view men as objects, and I only use my powers for good 😂
@@Myaccount923 yea maybe fake ones .I used to live with one who is now in prison for a couple gruesome murders and all his emotions were fake .he was able to adapt to any personality to gain trust ,which in the end assisted him in the sick and disgusting crime he committed.idk about psychopaths but Ik sociopaths have no real emotion.so technically there’s nothing they can crumble about,that’s how he was able to do sinister stuff with no remorse
The way you address these topics is completely & utterly my cup of tea. Having men to give their intelligent analysis does wonders for other men who need to hear these types of conversations. It also helps women to see all men are not the same and there is hope out there ladies. The way you research and use resources to help support your well thought out statements does not go unnoticed. Well done sis!
39:00 bro she really just bodied the whole manosphere with this conclusion .
1. This system they uplhold is like armor for them, allowing them to live with their shortcomings and objective negative behavior without challaneging and changing it (like how fresh and for say women can’t cheat but men can)
2. They fall in this echo chamber because they have to keep spouting the same BS over and over with no change
3. When people make an objectively good point, they can’t give it an inch because of one thing is accept, the whole Jenga block falls
So these alpha men are just very scared of having to live like a normal human and face their shadow, so they create this world where they cover their ears and yell about how things should be because they are afraid, and that fear just comes out as over aggression. Doesn’t sound too alpha to me 👀.
Thanks for the video, I personally really appreciate it and I’m gonna take lores of notes because this really summed up that dumb ass mindset
This should be pinned! Perfectly said
This right here - it's so tricky to fully fathom phenomena that seem so scarily odd sometimes. This sums it up nicely. It seems like a coping mechanism after all. Also, it is best to just look at it for what it is instead of falling into the trap of making it about women, femininity etc. There is no healthy way out once you start debating their logics...
Even if I was desperate to want a husband or that was one of my main goals, Kevin STILL wouldn’t be someone I would go to for advice or anything in general
you shouldn’t take marriage advice from a guy that isn’t happily married, but TWICE divorced.
@@mya.xoxo_ and owed back child support for his now grown daughter who came out saying he wasn’t a great father.
@@TheLadymac1982 smh! taking advice from him about marriage/parenting, is like taking advice from a drug-addict homeless person, on how to get rich.
@@mya.xoxo_ exactly. And I don’t know why BW called his show knowing he hates us.
Have fun staying single
As a woman who want children and want to get married to a man but I don't listen to these podcasters I just want to enjoy the journey and date people until I find the right men for me and have fun doing this. If I don't marry until my late 30s or early 40s and if that affects my infertility, I have the option to adopt someone from the foster care system.
Yes!!
This is where I’m at right now!!
I'd do my research on adoption, it's often a traumatic process for the child.
@@mimimusick9734 Way better than a foster home
You might get kid's but good luck to you getting married.
Married black man here, got here thru FD’s recommends….. I’m just here to listen and up my knowledge to speak to these issues in as comprehensive a way as possible in my own content… this is dope so far 🙌🏾
So men can go around having as much sex with as many partners as they want but a black woman’s value is dependent on her sexuality… smhhhhh. I hate this box that they place us in.
This is also something I over all have agreed with
Lol men won’t accept women who sleeps around period
It's almost as if male sexuality and female sexuality are different. Shocking.
@@abecacebe6749 it's really not that much tho.
I am now recommending your channel to ALL the Women and young girls I know! You're so awesome and your breakdowns are SPOT on!!
@Bigger Tower ?
@Bigger Tower Time is currency spend it wisely!
@@themysticwarriorgal9465 right! Lol
@Bigger Tower lol how is it cringe?
@Bigger Tower you have the phenotype tht most of those men wouldn’t even respect or want.
I had to stop watching Kevin Samuels. The more I watched, the more I became self hating and obsessed with being considered ‘feminine’ enough. My ex fiancé introduced me to this man. He would always randomly quote Samuels and use certain things I did against me. He would even threaten to find someone better and suggest that he should be treated like a king. I was so insecure towards the end of our relationship. One day I got sick of him complaining and hung up on him which he dumped me over. I was devastated and embarrassed. A few months later I realized that I completely lost myself in the relationship. After I met my current husband, I am positive that it was for the best. I would have been miserable with my ex. Not to mention, he came back begging me to get back with him but I said no. I told him straight up that he was a coward because only a coward could humiliate a woman because she doesn’t comply with your every little desire. All these men are cowards with their little podcasts.
Glad you put your ex in place for daring to come back. They always try to crawl back into someone's life when they "realize" their podcasters lied to them, and that supposed "submissive" woman they recently got is really someone they can't even handle.
I despised that ghoul.
Congratulations, I must say without clowns like that, men like men can’t caress the Gems, shoutout to all the males who f*cked up
He didn't come crawling back to you lol
Thats 100% a lie 😂🤣
@@thepennsylvanianamerican9215 a lot of men lose good women because of their huge egos.
Decolonizing your mind also means changing the way you treat others on a human level. It's realizing that we are all connected and social responsibility is a deeply integral aspect of this decolonization. How do you treat others with a different identity than yourself? We need to ask ourselves that question. Women are half of humanity and we need to express our human solidarity to them and realize that the capitalist, colonialist ideals we developed and were propagandized with are counterproductive to maintaining humanity and helping us to thrive.
Social responsibility is indeed the right term and that's the problem because people like to push personal responsibility far more.
I'm white and treating people with respect when they also treat others with respect is the golden rule & being a good human being not some colonization bullshit.
@@HosCreates The stupidity of this comment has more layers than an onion.
Handmaid's Tale has always been off-putting for me and you really nailed a part of it that I couldn't properly verbalize. Which is that undoubtedly while that world is terrifying to imagine, it isn't actually representative of the history that inspired it or the true way that it would look if it ~happened in this day and age. You said it, we don't need to imagine the dehumanization and enslavement of women as some fictionalized thing, since Black women historically have been the targets of the worst of sexual slavery and dehumanization.
Margret Atwood did say that it was a piece inspired by past, present and future
i still visibly wince and cringe sometimes, remembering just how far down into those toxic beliefs I got before i realized just how insane and weird it truly was, and how bad I was acting and could’ve acted. I could have seriously turned into a complete creep if I didn’t escape the manosphere/pua/mgtow areas.
To all the women who ever had to deal with my horrible self awareness at some point in their life, I really don’t know how i could apologize.
To add on to daisy, acknowledge how sexism/misogyny has different effects on the various women in the world. There's misogynoir, trans women who's trans identity overlaps with being a woman, queer women in general, disabled women whether it's visible or invisible, so on and so forth. By doing that you can at least make someone's life a little better by being upfront and calling it out.
Simply put, call out the misogyny you see in strangers, friends, family, et cetera. Idk about misogyny in women, that's a problem with unique aspects, but in general be an advocate and speak when a woman needs you to. Not when you decide to, as that can take away her voice.
Your first thought is what you've been taught to believe by the world/culture around you, your second thought shows who you are as a person. Don't feel bad for having a bad first thought, make sure the second is always correcting it, to the point you learn not to see the first reaction.
@daisyk except it literally is though. Even when a man fully transitioned and looks like a woman as soon as people find out they are trans people find them disgusting and not a real woman. I understand the difference in appearance can be weird but most of the time the problem is that these men renounced their masculinity and that brings shame to 'alpha' men because obviously they consider women as weaker so why would anyone want to be feminine. In their eyes femininity equals weakness and you may think it doesn't affect you but they will turn around and see you with the same hatred just bc you are a woman
@daisyk you mean...trans women? I had to read this several times over to get to that. There's a difference between men who just liked feminine clothes or femininity in general, and there's transgender women who may to may not be feminine but are women.
And yes, they do experience the sexism women do, it's just in a different form like how an bipoc woman's sexist experiences is different from a disabled woman's, and how both are different to what disabled bipoc people face with additional challenges. Sexism intertwined with transphobia shows in the ways (typically) cis men perceive femininity, seeing any "man" who "chooses to become" a woman as weaker and lesser than and pathetic. To transphobes they aren't women, but they also don't want to consider them men entirely because they deviate from the expected ""ideal"" of a man. Femininity, in all people, is seen as the lesser while masculinity is seen as the greater identity, though that sometimes isn't exactly the case as some may prefer strict gender roles over masculinity as a whole. It even shows in the way androgyny is often seen as more masculine than fem instead of the in between it's meant to be. But back to the point, and to repeat it, they do. My feminism/womanism includes trans women and their experiences. In fact my womanism centers women, but points put and gladly acknowledges class, men's issues, race, and more that correlates. Doing all of that will make the original commentor a better ally, what he wants to be.
I really don't know what else to say, on this channel we believe that trans women are women, and that all of our experiences as women vary; we believe in true intersectionality, not half hearted feminism that chooses who and what to exclude or focuses on less important issues over what women around the world fight against constantly.
Man, the fact that you and F.D. Sigifier have dropped approximately hour-long videos on similar topics makes me so happy. Today's going to be a 'chill in bed with popcorn and get educated' kinda day.
40:30 Exactly. I learned long ago that masculinity is really just a club. And if you’re not in the club, you’re a target.
it's a man's club
Yup. And this is why so many “good men“ refuse to stand up to the bad ones. Women are starting to realize this and understand that any man who needs to be in the boys club is inherently an enemy to women. They can’t be our Allie’s. It’s against the rules of the “club.”
Love everything you said here! Would love your take on the unprecedented media attention on the depp v heard case, and the extremely misogynistic harassment of her online (not saying this as a supporter of her, but media has been an echo chamber towards this case and I would love a nuanced take on it from a feminist lens)
100%, dudes be using amber heard almost like a vessel to express all of their misogyny into
Princess Weekes: 'True Crime & the Theater of Safety.' That video pretty much sums up what I have to say about it.
What misogynistic harassment… I’ve seen EVERYONE attacking her rightfully so but not bc she’s a woman but bc she’s a shitty person
I'm almost 30 and I genuinely do not want to become a wife and mother. I'm not ruling out the possibility that I might want that in the future (strongly considering adopting in my mid 30s), but right now and in the foreseeable future, my goals are freedom, peace, travel and more money.
So .. youre the man you desire.
@@silentwitness536 🤨 why do you keep commenting everywhere?
@@silentwitness536 You must be a Rollo Tomassi fan. No she is not the man she desires, she is just herself and likes being on her own. You guys really are threatened by women who who are ok being single, aren't you.
so you want to fuck any good looking dude without any consequences
@@silentwitness536 You are so threatened by women and your lack of self awareness prohibits you from seeing it.
Every other week someone is making a post or comment about how they still listen to R (ape) Kelly bc they separate the man from the music… HUH????? The music was literally about him and his perversion!!! 🤦🏽♀️ Always excusing male degeneracy! ppl ALWAYS separating the man from his actions and never for women! Smh! It’s sick!
True
This alpha male nonsense seems to be everywhere. Its bad enough my wife actually pulled me to the side and thanked me for not being like that. I feel bad for all the teenage boys out there who hear this stuff and think its solid advice.
were your wife is so lucky
She’s happy he hasn’t seen the light.
@@Biobele sh's happy he has a mind of his own and not following the crowd looking for validation
@@niaedmonds3342 what mind of his own? Living in ignorance is now “mind of his own”???
@@Biobele The ones that are ignorant are yall that shame a man for having his own mind and not following the so-called ''manosphere'' or ''alpha male'' mentality. NEXT Y'all acting just like the women you talk about.