The Cardinals Are a FAILURE With The WORST Manager In Baseball
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The Cardinals Are a FAILURE With The WORST Manager In Baseball
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As a Cardinals fan, this video was well needed. Good job.
I gave him the idea
As a Cubs fan, I love this video lol sry ur team sucks and you have the biggest cry baby to at catcher willson
Same here 100%. I'm not even mad that we're awful anymore. It's a documentary of how to not run an organization.
Hahaha u guys sucks go cry dumb bitch
It’s a very casual and uninformed video actually lmfao
You know, the Yadier Molina carrying this team allegations are coming true. I'm here for it too.
Yadi had been managing this team way back to the LaRussa days. Soon as he left they became crap.
It’s as though he really knew the pitching staff in terms of calling a game. How they have collapsed since he retired may get him into the Hall of Fame by itself. He was the de facto manager.
@AEMoreira81 just looking at Miles Mikalous is enough to tell you that's a fact. Dude went from a 2/3 starter under Yadi to a guy that is literal batting practice.
STL has been in shambles since they blew game 1 of the 2022 wild card.
Nah even before that. Go back to 2015 when they had the best record in the nl and lost to the cubs in the division series.
They have been in shambles since Yadi retired. And that's not coincidence
So the Cardinals ended the Phillies era of success by upsetting them in 2011. And the Phillies ended the Cardinals era of success by upsetting them in 2022. Life truly moves in cycles.
And now the Phillies are on pace for one of their best runs ever. I wouldn’t doubt we’ll see them in another WS
@@dylane.damkoehler2216Phillies have their own problems: choke in October
@@therealjaystone2344They’ve made the NLCS twice in a row. I wouldn’t call that choking. I would call the 2004-2022 Twins and last two Dodgers and last two Braves seasons choking. Choking is exiting the playoffs early when you were expected to go deeper.
@@philly_sports1558 choking is when the team had higher expectations to be at the finals, let alone winning it all. Anything less than that is a failure.
damn haven't considered that yet but yes that's 100% true
This organization has become a complete and utter embarrassment due to nothing more than sheer incompetence and ignorance. Front office refusing to change a dying philosophy, a bafflingly inability to identify and develop homegrown pitching (without trading it) and an unwillingness to take any serious risks with trades and free agent signings (despite continually being burnt by poor trades and free agent signings).
To add insult to injury, ownership has resulted to insulting the fan base for having expectations. Just about any Cardinal fan would be happy with a rebuild at this point. We'd just like some direction. Either mix things up or tear this thing down to the studs. New management is a necessity, the coaching staff needs a complete overhaul (Disco can stay) and any veteran with value or on expiring deal needs to be moved to help replenish the pitiful farm system.
"The Cardinals don't rebuild." Yeah, well we also don't win. Great video! You nailed it.
MARMOL IS THE WORST COACH I HAVE SEEN IN YEARS. NO ONE IN THE CLUBHOUSE LIKES HIM, HE HAS MADE PITCHING CHANGES THAT BLOW MY MIND AND ARE EXTREMELY DUMB. EVERYONE ON THE TEAM (EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE) HAS PROBLEMS WITH HITTING AND WHO DO WE HAVE AS A HITTING COACH? OH AND PITCHING COACH NOW? NOBODYS... PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING. WORST THING ABOUT ALL OF THIS, EITHER THE CARDS HAVE TRADED AWAY ALL-STARS (WITHIN THE PAST 5-8 YEARS) LIKE GALLEN, AROZARENA, ALACANTRA, GARCIA, ETC OR..... PLAYERS GET BETTER WHEN THEY LEAVE THE CARDINALS. FUCKIN PISSES ME OFF. THE GM AND THE COACH HAVE TO GO!
couldn't have said it better
Actually the front office DID change philosophy. They fired Shild and hired Marmol AND went all in on BS stats.
@@nelsonward7981 Cardinals are one of three teams that don't even utilize TruMedia so no, I don't think they went all in on BS stats. Quite the opposite actually.
Yadier Molina should be the manager
Only if Moze goes away
I doubt it at this point. Skip is probably your greatest hope, now that he's leaving the Marlins after this season.
I would take it at this point tbh. He couldn't possibly be worse than Marmol.
He doesn’t want to be manager
This is one of the best critiques regarding this monstrosity of a once well run organization. It all starts and ends with John Mozeliak.
When your best move as a GM is defined by NOT extending a player (Albert Pujols) you know you suck. He has to go.
Despite being built like Popeye, Tyler is very fast. Don’t let those forearms fool you, the legs can pump.
For a little while but then the injuries happen and he can’t walk.
He's very fast. That was a horrible take.
O’Neill isn’t built to run fast?? He literally is one of the fastest runners in MLB
Right but it's not expected of him on first glance ala Elly De La Cruz, Trea Turner, Acuna Jr. etc.
A few corrections I'd like to throw in...
1. Jordan Hicks was actually dealt, along with Paul DeJong, Toronto at the 23 trade deadline. Neither the Jay nor Cardinals signed him for 24.
2. Tyler O'Neil is actually really, REALLY fast! He had health issues (knees being one) that made it a gamble for him running at top speed.
Other than that, yep. As a fan of this organization, I'm counting down the days until the Front Office is gutted and rebuilt into what it once was.
within Cardinals youtube/commentary, many have been pointing all of this out for YEARS. But--and here is the key--prior to La Russa, the Cardinals had been terrible since Whitey Herzog. The farm system is not terrible, but the coaching has been hysterically bad since La Russa left. It is the 70s all over again...
I agree that the Cardinals haven’t been the same since TLR left!!
Schildt was pretty good. At least the team had an identity.
They need another SP. A number 2 behind mikolas, mikolas goes down to 3 and so on for the rest. Nootbar, Donovan, oneof those 2 as the center piece and a couple prospects, why not luzardo out in MIA??? It's doable
@@gabrielv.2647I think Luzardo is about to undergo TJS
We have been talking about this for years. The fans have seen this coming for years and have been trying to get the front office to wake up to reality. They’re just stubborn and refuse to change.
I have to admit it’s been pretty rough 😭
That can also applied to the video.
As a cards fan and STL native: things need to change fast
Fire the dam manager
Damn*
@reecerambo who cares
Clean HOUSE, which means Mo, GM, and field manager + coaches
As a Pirates fan, it's nice to see the Cards finally suck, too.
Maybe we can root for the brewers together In the playoffs. Too bad their going to be eliminated off the bat. Curse of the nl central
I agree- Cub fan here.
Minor correction: Marcel Ozuna played 2 years with us. 2018 and 2019
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We used to be a franchise everyone wanted to emulate. Well, the other teams caught up and then surpassed us while our ownership and front office stubbornly clings to the old formula that doesn’t work anymore.
If you are making a profit hand over fist, why change that?
Oddly enough, you just described why "Moneyball" doomed the A's. Once everyone figured out Beane's system and emulated it, they could do it even better, and thus the A's got left behind from the approach they pioneered. Seems like something similar is happening to the Cards.
I have lived in “Cardinals country” my entire life (not a Cardinals fan). I can honestly say I’ve never seen a fan base blindly stand behind their organization like the cardinals. To a super annoying degree at times. Now I’m seeing people, that I’ve never heard speak an ill word of anybody wearing a bird, saying how much they despise Oli and Moz. They are losing that fan loyalty to this guy.
Jays are needing a video like this
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Hi, ItalkStudios I’m a big fan and I love your videos. I was wondering if your next video could be on how umpires have been sensitive and more thin skinned when it comes to players and coaches complaining about calls and just the umpires looking to eject coaches and players
This aged well.
But the owner says we fans are a bunch of "what have you done for me lately" crybabies, and if we don't show up and spend money, then the team will only get worse.
I love that we can finally talk about the Cardinals in a negative light without getting called ungrateful. Yes Cardinals fans have enjoy a great recent history. That era is over.
Enjoyed the video. How did you get the pitch data to pop up in the Jordan hicks clips? That looks sick
As a Cardinals fan, the problem I see is the ownership. They simply dont care. They dont care if the team finishes in last place because quite frankly, they are still going to make a profit. Cardinals fans will still show up, buy season tickets, and watch the games which will generate revenue for the team. Due to this, they are not urgent to fire Oli Marmol as well as the hitting coach because, as I said, they dont care. I also disagree with your solution to simply 'blow it up.' I understand the reason why you would think it would work but I dont think the players are the problem. I think Oli Marmol as well as the hitting coach should be fired. Not saying this would solve all the team's problems but it would at least be able to see whether or not a change of leadership can get the team back to being contenders.
I don't know about this. I've also never seen the stadium so empty. I just don't see fans spending their hard earned money watching a hapless team. It's not even June and I'm already tuning out games. If changes aren't made I can see this devolving into a Pirates or Royals situating real fast.
@mckinleyroscoe4566 Unfortunately the Cardinals are still ranked 6th overall in average home attendance. It is very possible however that this may change as the year goes on if they continue to get worse but if we really want to send the ownership a message, the attendance must drop even more, in my opinion.
Now this I agree with you on. That manager is a joke.
The Devil Magic is gone
im a cards fan and I fucking hate him
marmol is the worst manager to ever manage a team in the last 50 years worst than maury wills
@@jiimbowjust not true😭 manages the bullpen well and decent lineups plus he’s always holding himself accountable in interviews and has always been a good player coach. So many casuals saying the same shit that’s blown way out of proportion
Marmol makes me cringe, feel bad for Cardinals fans they need to axe him.
STL at this point is the worst organization in MLB. An owner who doesn't care, a front office that is a complete disaster, a manager that doesn't have a clue, and a roster and farm system completely void of talent. What a nightmare.
White Sox got them beat 6 ways from Sunday as the worst. You'll have to settle for 2nd worst.
As a cardinals fan I agree with everything. Only interesting fact is that the Rangers cut Garcia and then no one wanted him, it wasn’t just a direct trade to stardom. Also a lot of the people they traded weren’t who they became and wouldn’t have in STL. Sandy would’ve been given the Jordan hicks treatment and shoved into a middle reliever or set up roll, and never let thrive as a starter, like any other pitching prospect recently 🤦🤦🤦
Garcia was also DFA’d by the Rangers and every team in baseball had a chance to get him for basically nothing. Don’t hold that one against the cardinals since NO ONE saw his turn around coming
I live only few hours away from St. Louis and have been to a few games over the years. I haven’t been though since Albert Pujols went to the Angels. It’s sad to see a team that was so well managed that even when they weren’t winning titles they were in the running to a team that can barely win. Hopefully they can get it together because St Louis is a nice town and they have some of the nicest fan bases in the league.
I've been saying it for a little while... I think the death of Oscar Taveras in 2014 really changed the direction that the Cardinals were heading. If that never happens, I think they would have stayed the course they'd been on since around 2009.
What the Cards have been since firing Mike Shildt has been... not great. Albert Pujols' resurgence in '22 probably saved some less than stellar headlines, but the real turning point afterwards was the Tyler O'Neill debacle. This is an org that refuses to change their ways, stuck in a time from 13 years ago. And John Mozeliak went from being heralded as one of the better GMs in baseball to whatever this is.
They're a clown show right now, plain and simple. Sonny Gray saying he wanted to be a Cardinal was the first time I heard a player say that since Matt Holliday (when he resigned here in the '09 offseason). I was genuinely surprised.
The sooner things change for the Redbirds, the better. In my lifetime, there haven't been too many years of struggles. I've been spoiled rotten, but I'm tired of seeing the rot seep out.
Ron Washington then said: HOLD MY BEER!
Whew! What a scathing, surprising video. I'm a Cards fan living in the Bay Area. Pretty much liked the Cardinals since I was a boy in the 60s. Lou Brock/Bob Gibson days. When I've visited STL I've always loved that St.Louis is such a baseball town. I've seen the "new"Busch Stadium/Baseball Village and I'm so impressed by it; would love to go to a game @ Busch someday. I'm surprised to hear all this talk about the incompetent Cardinals staff. Sounds like the way people are talking about the Oakland A's here in my area. And lack of attendance? At Busch?? No way!! Hard to believe. These are just shocking revelations for me, being on the outside looking in at such an iconic club. I'm still a Cards fan (my team is really The Giants.)Love the way red baseball caps are everywhere to be seen all over STL when I'm there.
Tyler O’Neill had 5 seasons with Cardinals with his sprint speed in the top 5% in all of baseball. He might not look fast but he is
Jordan hicks was traded by the cardinals, he was traded to Toronto for a bucket of balls where he was fantastic for the rest of 2023 as well.
I was watching an old samurai movie from the Criterion Collection. That’s a legitimate company. I can’t remember exactly which one it was. But one of the subtitles was “She-yiit” or something like that, I couldn’t believe it
Choosing Mozeliak over Jeff Luhnow is what set us on this course of failure. Luhnow was really the one who could evaluate talent and Mo took credit for it. I definitely believe Mo himself hacked Luhnow. That’s why we have had a string of bad signings because Mo can’t evaluate talent and the farm system has gone bone dry.
This didn’t age well
Actually, I believe the saying goes “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on glue”
Firing Shildt was such an unexpected and strange move, I think it really hurt cohesiveness and a sense of team. Hard for the rest of the coaches and players to buy into “the Cardinal Way” and loyalty or have a sense of team, it was like anyone is expendable no matter what you do performance-wise. Not saying Shildt is the manager of the century but Marimol was a step back. It seems like he overcompensates for his lack of experience by blaming and complaining.
Nice you uploaded a video so good I wait for your videos
Could be worse. Atleast your team not as bad as the Toronto Blue Jays right now
This video just made me fall to my knees at schnucks
Should have gone to Dierbergs
Might have been watchable if the background music wasn’t completely overpowering and if the in broadcast ticket ad wasn’t so long…
This didn’t age well 😂
I've been waiting for trashing cards, because the arrogance of Mozeliak to learn anything these last 10 years is insulting.
As a Pirates fan, I love how the Cardinals suddenly suck. I’ve waited since the mid-90’s for this.
I'm 64, I remember the 1970s, great players, or adequate players, but mediocre .500 seasons, Mo and Marmol need to go, it would be a start anyway. I'm afraid the Redbirds are going to wait til after the All Star break, be hopelessly buried, and think 'we need a change.' You think!? Now is the time to fire and make a change. It's not like we have anywhere to go but up.
I knew that I was right to be skeptical that the Cardinals would rebound and capture the division again
Doesn’t seem like a coincidence that this consistently elite franchise fell apart the second Yadi left. Gotta make him the manager. As a player he was great at everything a manager should be great at
Over my lifetime, the two franchises that developed talent the best have always been the Cards and Indians. Those two have always seemed to be mainstays in getting the most out of their players with a smaller budget. Now the Cards have fallen but I am sure they will rebound, at least I assume they eventually will which leaves Cleveland as probably the best low salary franchise in baseball with an excellent track record of developing talent. I am curious to see who Cleveland drafts with their first pick coming up.
Somehow the list of players who got traded or left and got better didn't include everyone, there's more, such as Lane Thomas
Bros in the thumbnail (except Goldschimidt) look like characters from Oblivion 😂
I don’t mind the Garcia trade, he had been given the opportunity and really didn’t look like much when he was here. And 29 other teams passed on him, twice.
Arrozarena is upsetting though bc he was never given a chance, and in the limited chance he was given, he excelled. Definitely Mozaliaks worst move as a GM.
Edit*-bc I made my comment before finishing the video- I just want to point out im in no way a Marmol fan, but to say he pushed the security guard and act like he did it with some ill intent is a bit ridiculous- he got in his way when trying to challenge a play, which he wasn’t able to do bc said security obstruction, and then saved the man from falling down the stairs after being caught off balance.
The cardinals getting more attention for losing then we did when we were winning shows how little people even know ab the cardinals bcuz when we were winning we were "boring"
Everyone that runs this team from the owners to Mo to Oli are completely arrogant and refuse to learn from their shortcomings. As a Cardinals fan it pains me to say this but I almost have to root for this team to keep losing so someone can eventually be fired. Never have I seen an organization with so little accountability
A couple of corrections: Ozuna was with the Cards for two years not one and O'Neill is, in fact, a fast runner, despite his build.
"Maybe the Cardinals should just stop trading with the Rays."
No no no no no no keep those trades coming!
I have been waiting for a video on the Cardinals, and you did not disappoint!
The Cardinals have made tons of bad decisions in the last years, but Garcia and Arozerena aren’t either of them. The Cardinals always have outfielders who go on a hot streak for a a year or two and then spend years trying to find themselves. No matter which outfielder they would’ve traded instead of Arozerena whether it would be O’Neil Nootbar Bader Carlson, all of them would’ve been painful to watch go on a streak for a different team. By all means fire the manager and the president, but those two trades are the least of the accusations.
I don't understand why they got rid of Schildt. They were starting to win and he's a good manager that understands the game
Do one about the padres shitting the bed
If you think Marmol is bad you should have seen Gabe Kapler! Talk about some one all about himself that was Kapler as Giants manager. Giants are still feeling the Kapler effect. Giants have the most swings and miss of any team in baseball. Looks like the Cards are following suit, swing and miss, bad defense, suspect pitching, terrible manager. Sorry St. Louis.
It’s really embarrassing to admit, but I’m a Cardinals fan, and it hurts watching this team. I wish we could fire Marmol, I wish we could fire Mozeliak, our hitting sucks, and they aren’t doing anything about it. It sucks to watch a consistently winning team play like the White Sox
Thankyou
As a Reds fan, I'm almost as stoked about the Cards sucking as bummedthe Reds are sucking. Saw 3 different articles out of NY already calling for the Yanks to try to pickup Arenado and Goldschmidt. Personally I would rather have Rizzo.
As a Cardinals fan, I agree with this video. It truly gets frustrating seeing prospects get traded away and do really well somewhere else. For whatever reason a franchise that once drafted and developed well for the most part has completely failed in these areas as well as evaluating talent
For cash considerations is absolutely wild.
I already saw my team beat the Cardinals in person this season. I can’t wait to do it again
@tb-bz6mh... and who would your team be ehh? To afraid to say ....
Holy crap I feel seen 😆 nicely summed up
As a Cardinals fan this shit is annoying 😒😒😒 we're old and we need to rebuild big time. Our manager sucks 😒😒😒 I'm tired of loosing. I already gave up on this team.
Life long Cardinal fan here. You hit the nail on the head the cardinals have been riding on the coattails of the past for the last 10+ seasons. The 2022 season was an outlier and one that I will remember fondly for the rest of my life. Other than that it’s been rather bleak with no real chance to go deep into the postseason other than the 2013 season. You can blame the payers for not preforming and the manager for sure. However the cardinals GM and owner are at top of the blame pile. Mo inherited a great franchise that Walt Jocketty left behind for him and slowly butchered it.
As a Cubs fan I am beaming from ear to ear at this video
To be fair, the Cubs have sucked ass willingly for a century straight.
Cubs fans are always beaming no matter how good or bad thier team is haha.
I’m a Dodgers fan and lord knows I hate the cardinals almost as much as I hate the giants but we need the classic franchises to be good at all times. This is embarrassing
Let me point out a few things, Adolis Garcia was so bad his first year with the Rangers that they released him only resigning him after he changed his approach. Marcell Ozuna was hurt and playing at maybe 2/3 of his previous and current abilities with very little signs of improvement while he was a Cardinal (let’s not even get into his horrendous off field events). Tyler O’Neil plays good when he is not hurt however it feels like he is out on the IL more than he is on active. For many years the Cardinals were the only team that would take a chance on O’Neil because his weight building stature is very susceptible to strains. He may be playing good right now but we are only 25% into the season, give it time, he will be on the IL soon.
Remember last year when Wilson Contreras was vilified for not producing and having a new & immovable contract? Now this year, he’s one of the more productive (relative) hitters and he’s out for the foreseeable future.
100% only thing you are wrong about is tyler oneal is freaky fast for his size.
Don't throw in the towel Cardinal fans. The aging rotation may be at the heart of the problem, but there are a boatload of good young arms in the minors t hat are a year or two away. I believe you will see Tim Hence and Tekoah Roby by the end of this season. Likely get Cooper Hjerpe and Gordon Graceffo in 2025 and you still have Max Rajcic, Michael McGreevy, Sem Robberse, Adam Kloffenstein, Ian Bedell and Brycen Mautz as starters in the minors. And it looks like Zack Showalter could become a force out of the pen. Not sayin these guys are the answer, because you just never know how they will perform in the majors. But, they potential is there to have a starting rotation and backend of the bullpen all in the age range of 23-25. If they do pan out ... could we be looking at another 90s Braves-type of team? I do agree Marmol will have to go before tat can happen ... but as a Mets fan, I will give the Cards way more benefit of the doubt than my team ... LOL
Mikolas getting that sweet sweet karma for hitting Happ after accidentally hitting Contreras. We now see that Willson stands way too close to the batter's box. All my homies hate Mikolas.
This one hurt to watch, not going to lie, but it was needed. Also Jordon Hicks didn't leave in free agency, he was traded away last year, as were Jack Flaherty, Paul DeJong, and Jordan Montgomery.
The Cardinals are my team, and they're in about the worst shape I've ever seen. They need to completely clean house from the front office down to the manager. The current front office philosophy is dated, and it's clear the team has lost its ability to draft, retain, develop, and/or sign/trade for the talent required to compete for a championship. I wouldn't mind watching the team have a losing record if it was rebuilding in a new direction. Not this. This team is dead. Lifeless. Boring. I've been to a ton of games over the last 4 seasons, and I'm not going to be going down to the ballpark much to watch this. Especially not with the attitude of the front office about the state of the team. Complete denial and constantly trying to blue sky the situation to the fans. Enough is enough. It's a sad time for Cardinals baseball.
As a Cardinals fan, the cardinals got frozen in the year 2016 and can’t get out of it. Metro Boomin at the city connect reveal is the best decision since they won in 2011
Combination of a bad manager, GM not doing much and the injury bug. Arenado and goldy will be dealt at the deadline and it pains me as a cardinals fan.
Bill DeWitt Jr (owner of the Cardinals) is more interested in property development than anything to do with the team. John Mozeliak is a complete dope - why DeWitt keeps him around is a mystery to everyone. Oliver Marmol couldn't manage a 2 car funeral.
Time to clean out the front office. Get sone younger pitchers and trade the loaded Outfield for some more bullpen help.
Alright I don’t like marmol. But that incident with the umpire was taken way out of context. He grabbed him to stop from falling and he was just trying to stop him from getting in the way.
I don't know the Jays manager keeps having Springer hit leadoff. He had like 3 hits all season
Just noticed former Cardinal Edmundo Sosa is killing it with Philadelphia, 0.946 OPS, granted only 46 AB’s, but still, Cards traded him in 2022. The Phillies may be better than LAD and Atlanta. We know about Wheeler and Nola, but they have this guy Suarez 8-0 1.37 ERA. Phillies are darn good!
Marmol sucks…As soon as the vet leaders left (Yadi and Albert), it all went downhill fast. He doesn’t seem to be someone who can boost a teams moral much less manage a game.
You are spot on
As a cubs fan, always was jealous of how the cardinals always were successful and kept the machine going.
It's balancing out
Blud has never watched Tyler O’Neil run 😭 he’s one of the fastest men in ball
Good video tho. We are so cooked
The Mets are going through it too 😢😢
Im no fan of Oli, but firing him won't fix anything because it'll be the same front office that will hire the next guy. The front office is the core problem here, and whether Oli stays or not, the Cardinals will not return to form without a serious change in culture in the FO.
Make a video about how bad the padres are next
Three thoughts i have real quick about this team.
1. Jordan Walker isnt thriving because they forced him to play the outfield when he has never in his life played out there and it showed last year. When you go from a gold glove caliber player is playing horrible defense on a position theyre not used to, they will probably be helf back mentally at the plate.
2. Marmol sucks
3. Marmol sucks.
4. General Manager BLOWS
The cardinals accomplished their off-season goals of "pitching, pitching, pitching" no1 here really likes the front office. I wouldn't say the tyler O'Neil trade was that bad because we really didn't need him. It just sucks were ranked like 29 or 30th in offense so far. It's climbing but slowly. Next off season their gonna talk about offense instead of pitching, then the pitching going to probably decline. Just sucks really. Stl has fans/attendance rivaling NYY and LA but can't seem to be them. They obviously spend nowhere near what they spend on payroll, but still.