Someone dropped this 194 Year Old Panormo Acoustic | Guitar Repair Ep 1

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

Комментарии • 161

  • @andrewmize823
    @andrewmize823 2 года назад +10

    194 years ago, some luthier's apprentice said "oi, what about this wood over 'ere for the sides, then, guv?" and the master luthier saw the flame and said "stone the crows, Archie--that's bloody gorgeous!" At least that's the bit of Guy Ritchie movie that played in my head when I saw it...

  • @finnmcool2
    @finnmcool2 2 года назад +18

    The look on Sophia's face when you suggested building a replica was just lovely. Such joy. I look forward to future videos on this lovely guitar.

  • @SweetTGuitars
    @SweetTGuitars 2 года назад +8

    Hello Sophia! I've already welcomed you to our community but I figured a second welcome couldn't hurt. I'm excited to see some of this kind of content. As an aspiring Luthier, these are things that I need to know. Thank you Ben for hiring Sophia and for everything else! Peace & Love.

  • @lolipoable
    @lolipoable 2 года назад +6

    I love restorations when done properly. Can't wait for this series.

  • @Fliegenpilzkonsument
    @Fliegenpilzkonsument 2 года назад +1

    I've been watching this guitar hanging on your wall for ages and wondered when you were going to talk about it. Good to finally see it up close.

  • @ronholmesuk825
    @ronholmesuk825 2 года назад +4

    I love the teardowns, but I also love the full custom builds too - am genuinely interested to see my first renovation! Keep doing everything you're currently doing please.

  • @thorstenkonig552
    @thorstenkonig552 2 года назад +1

    Great that you´ll share this with us. Rock on!! thank you!!

  • @adamdutton9922
    @adamdutton9922 2 года назад +1

    ‘Welcome to the (Crimson Guitar’s) Repair Shop, where Ben comes in with a beautiful old acoustic” I want a teary reunion for Ben when it’s finished. Love love love.

  • @randypeterman
    @randypeterman 2 года назад

    This is really special. Thanks for doing and then sharing this!

  • @docdoc
    @docdoc 2 года назад +1

    To quote Sofia:. "ohh yes!!" I can't wait for this series!

  • @borgonianevolution
    @borgonianevolution 2 года назад

    I was intrigued when I saw Sofie pass by in a video a while back thinking she was a student. Now to learn she is staff and is just as big a nerd as the rest of us icing on the cake. Just to see an instrument that old in any condition is a big thing. Looking forward for the knowledge she will pass on just in this project. Welcome to tha family Sofia

  • @chriswareham
    @chriswareham 2 года назад +2

    Excited about this restoration, and a potential build of a copy. Amazing to see how original this instrument is for something so old and probably so heavily used.

  • @MrPab1lb
    @MrPab1lb 2 года назад

    I'm tearing up I'm loving this new series so much...especially the replication...bring it on Baby(s)!

  • @MrAaroncissell
    @MrAaroncissell 2 года назад +1

    I can see that Sophia will fit in great and look forward to seeing the build and all the thought that went into building that particular guitar almost 200 years ago. Love the fact that you both are right on point for with each other un terms of the how and what you want in the way of doing the restoration/repair. This will be a great one to watch and I hope that the two of you get into the tone of the wood that was chosen when it is apart as this is a guitar that tone wood matters entirely and I for one would like to know what besides looks the wood was chosen for and what almost 200 years later still brings to it's sound. Thank You

  • @mikehoward587
    @mikehoward587 2 года назад +3

    Welcome Sofia! I hope we can see you on the channel more.

  • @oldmanzen6682
    @oldmanzen6682 2 года назад +1

    Really looking forward to watching this series. Great new addition to the Crimson family.

  • @LisaHarsh
    @LisaHarsh 2 года назад +1

    Oh my that is beautiful. Sophia is already thrilled and she hasn’t even started to do anything to the guitar yet.

  • @kevjones5047
    @kevjones5047 2 года назад

    Beautiful, and sounds so warm. Sophia's awesome to, looking forward to this!

  • @jlphoto1143
    @jlphoto1143 2 года назад +2

    What's to say ??? ...I just enjoyed watching the two of you 'Geek Out' over this, it was infectuous. Looking foward to the series. I have to go stick a block of wood in a vise now and just ... plane it !!

  • @bethanygresoski3126
    @bethanygresoski3126 2 года назад +1

    That is an amazing guitar! I have one from 1870 and I was just happy it was in complete and restore able.

  • @frankmormon2503
    @frankmormon2503 2 года назад

    I am very excited to see this series! So happy you’re doing it with an apprentice who is so in love with the craft

  • @MashaT22
    @MashaT22 2 года назад +1

    Looking forward to seeing these repairs! This is a gorgeous instrument!

  • @rodparker4514
    @rodparker4514 2 года назад +1

    Terrific old guitar .More please !Welcome Sophia.

  • @IrisGalaxis
    @IrisGalaxis 2 года назад +1

    I do want to watch this. I like almost every video I watch just to support the creator because why not, but I felt liking this one.

  • @georgecontival2229
    @georgecontival2229 2 года назад +1

    Looking forward to you disassembling and restoration of such a cool guitar!

  • @DaveDickens
    @DaveDickens 2 года назад

    Looking forward to seeing the series, I need to repair the first acoustic guitar my parents bought me some 50 years ago, not quite 200 years. Cheers Dave

  • @nickpearsonuk
    @nickpearsonuk 2 года назад

    Beautiful instrument. I was lucky enough to work on the adjacent bench to Sofia over the last 18 months. Her Torres FE08 inspired guitar was not only something to behold but sounded just lovely as well. Such a talented young luthier. The best of luck with the restoration to both of you.

    • @tochriss
      @tochriss 2 года назад

      I'll second that! The repair module will come in handy. Straight in at the deep end eh!? I'd be terrified.

  • @hannaguitars
    @hannaguitars 2 года назад +1

    Hello Sophia, and Ben, I’ve been watching crimson since 2015, I have to say it is incredible to watch crimson guitars grow, this is a very inspiring series, keep up the the truly amazing work.

  • @RollDeBonz2112
    @RollDeBonz2112 2 года назад

    I'm looking forward to this series.

  • @qUICK3558
    @qUICK3558 2 года назад

    This video series is going to be amazing!

  • @realjester
    @realjester 2 года назад

    I can’t wait to see this restoration👍👍👍

  • @DevinJuularValentine
    @DevinJuularValentine 2 года назад

    I've a much younger Framus star bass I need to repair (1960s) so hopefully I get some tips. Pressed laminate top on a thinline acoustic shape where the sides have come loose from the back!
    Also I've recently started studying instrument making at West Dean partly inspired by you Ben and watching this channel all these years. Maybe I'll join your workshop one day :)

  • @andynapier-hemy5198
    @andynapier-hemy5198 2 года назад +1

    sorry for being picky but it made me laugh - "we're not going to restore this guitar to absolute perfection" / "we're going to restore this guitar to perfection" - which is it? And the "absolute" means nothing - perfection is perfection - it is an absolute :-) No matter, really looking forward to watching the series. Go team Crimsons!

  • @SergeantSphynx
    @SergeantSphynx 2 года назад

    Honestly, Ben, I enjoy all of your videos and am really looking forward to this series

  • @peterjames2580
    @peterjames2580 2 года назад +1

    I love this, work on saving 1845 French romantic guitar last year. Thanks.

  • @markgordon4368
    @markgordon4368 2 года назад +1

    Lovely, half of my repairs are on 100-140 year old banjos, I love keeping as much of the history and wear as possible, to be fair I've never come across one that hasn't been playable when it go's out, England, Birmingham was a massive centre of banjo making, looking forward to your take on this guitar's rebirth though is should be noted that an instrument is only new once 😉👍

  • @Axisflics
    @Axisflics 2 года назад

    An absolutely valid and welcome addition to your content, and welcome to the nut house Sofia!

  • @kevinwilliams4899
    @kevinwilliams4899 2 года назад +1

    Loved this content. And welcome Sophia, I can see you are both just itching to get into this repair with trepidation due to the age. Would be fantastic to see you both build a copy of this instrument.

  • @Finn-McCool
    @Finn-McCool 2 года назад +1

    4:42
    10:06
    There's a fine line in the mind.

  • @matthewkabat4633
    @matthewkabat4633 2 года назад +2

    Good afternoon Crimson guitars

  • @FOFBASS1
    @FOFBASS1 2 года назад +1

    Looking forward to the much doing part of the segment. Can’t wait.

  • @lotuselanplus2s
    @lotuselanplus2s 2 года назад +1

    Hello Sophia, welcome aboard, great vid, looking forewards to seeing the restoration process and the final product not to mention hearing it.

  • @darrenhopkins6987
    @darrenhopkins6987 2 года назад +1

    Yeah more of this stuff. Really enjoyed it.

  • @ikihioidydhdzddsdzdd
    @ikihioidydhdzddsdzdd 2 года назад

    really cool guitar. I would love to see more videos like this.

  • @JohnCollis
    @JohnCollis 2 года назад

    This instrument looks really fascinating. Understanding historic instruments like this or even older is really so interesting.

  • @Birkguitars
    @Birkguitars 2 года назад +2

    If I could afford it I would be heading back to Crimson to learn how to build acoustics. This is going to be amazing to watch.

  • @BLBlackDragon
    @BLBlackDragon 2 года назад +1

    Vintage/Antique instruments all come with their own challenges for restoration. Something nearly 200 years old? I'm loving watching you figure out what is right and proper, and the extra work to make sure you don't abuse a gorgeous instrument.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад +3

      I've been both looking forward to and petrified of this repair for a few years now.. no choice but to start now 😆

  • @510bass
    @510bass 2 года назад +1

    This one is gonna be fun!

  • @goose1965
    @goose1965 2 года назад

    I absolutely adore her glee for this guitar!

  • @Badger_Watch42
    @Badger_Watch42 Год назад

    Looking forward to this .... Don't forget you need an Eko Ranger VI in your museum

  • @bassvibasics479
    @bassvibasics479 2 года назад +1

    Welcome Sofia! Looking forward to seeing what you do ! :D

  • @sohosteveuk
    @sohosteveuk 2 года назад +1

    Very enjoyable content despite spending most of my past bouncing Strats off Marshalls... 🤪
    Keep up the splendid work 🙏🏻

  • @Meenie66
    @Meenie66 2 года назад

    Gonna be a great series this restoration! Thiis kinda stuff is sooo exciting

  • @frankcarter6427
    @frankcarter6427 2 года назад +1

    this is going to be a fab series

  • @thebiggerbyte5991
    @thebiggerbyte5991 2 года назад +1

    Looking forward to this one, too.

  • @BrownianMotionPicture
    @BrownianMotionPicture 2 года назад +1

    well excited to see this.

  • @tribestribes2555
    @tribestribes2555 Год назад

    Oh damn it! It,s maple, anyone can see that, even a child. This lovely guitar should of course be in respectable hands. Do hope it will have the right one who restore it.

  • @stevensiwinski
    @stevensiwinski 2 года назад

    Excited for this repair

  • @notplaying2379
    @notplaying2379 2 года назад

    I’m going to enjoy this series

  • @rickym29
    @rickym29 2 года назад

    If Crimson make/sell replicas I'll get my order in now!

  • @chrisraatz6672
    @chrisraatz6672 2 года назад

    this is going to be awesome!

  • @shockthefox
    @shockthefox 2 года назад +1

    I am so friggin excited for this…

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад +1

      Sofia is very talented and even more excited by this guitar than I am.. it really is going to be very very fun.

  • @rossstokes4822
    @rossstokes4822 2 года назад

    Wow love this, totally new direction for the channel and very cool. We love old woodworking tools and ancient guitars, thanks guys

  • @codyjay5634
    @codyjay5634 2 года назад +1

    Very gorgeous instrument!

  • @greylocke100
    @greylocke100 2 года назад +2

    It would be interesting as you restore this to post high definition photos of the guitars construction.

  • @Kevin.odonnell
    @Kevin.odonnell 2 года назад +1

    More. More old like this. Many good yes.

  • @colinbeer9113
    @colinbeer9113 Год назад

    I have an 1830 panormo ,it’s got the Panormo fecit with 1804;I wonder if it was # 4 made in 1830; colin

  • @jonathanatyeo5999
    @jonathanatyeo5999 9 месяцев назад

    Its quite exciting to discover this by the fluke of algorhythms. l have an 1830 Panormo. Mine has much darker wood on the back and sides, it looks a bit like Brazilian rosewood to my untrained eyes. The neck is a lighter colour wood, the back looks like it is made from 4 pieces. Its been played a lot in a previous life, but it is very straight, and although scratched, there are no cracks. Yours looks lovely, mine has a very plain rosette.
    l live across the border in Somerset and would be very interested to visit the Dorset guitar museum. Maybe l could show you my Panormo sometime and see what you think. l would like to get some strings and actually play it. l'm a bit concerned about what pitch l should tune it to, given the age.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  9 месяцев назад +1

      If you would like to email Sam Faloon at customshop@crimsonguitars.com I am sure that he will be able to advise you with regard to the strings. Alternatively, call and book an appointment to visit us with the guitar. Visitors welcome on a Thursday. We are situated on a farm near Dorchester. Tel 01300 348863

  • @raggedbreath
    @raggedbreath 2 месяца назад

    Are there any other videos of this project?

  • @cheapskate8656
    @cheapskate8656 2 года назад +3

    Dad joke incoming ......... I'd like to buy a guitar like that but I'm Baroque. Sorry :) So excited to see Sophia and Ben work on this.

  • @davideckenroth8394
    @davideckenroth8394 2 года назад

    This will be great to see 👍

  • @1971silversurfer
    @1971silversurfer 2 года назад

    Will be fascinating to see if the reproduction guitar can sound anything like the original once its restored.

  • @laughingquokka
    @laughingquokka 2 года назад +1

    Already want to click on the begginning process 🎸🎸🎸

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад +1

      We will have to start soon in that case. Thank you 😊

    • @laughingquokka
      @laughingquokka 2 года назад

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars Looking forward as many others and privately training own skills 😁

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 2 года назад +1

    Is your goal to fully repair and restore the guitar so it is playable? If that is the case, perhaps it could occasionally used/loaned to exemplary guitarists that specialize in playing and recording Period music. That way, we could get a better chance to hear what that music would have sounded like. Thanks

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад +1

      That is exactly the point of the museum, more of a reference library really.. but most instruments will be available to play to everyone and many will be leant out to musicians for recording and maybe some shows, music videos etc

    • @picksalot1
      @picksalot1 2 года назад

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars Great! That's exactly what I was hoping. Guitars can be works of art, but they're not meant to be wall hangings. Keep up the good work, inspiring builders and guitarists alike. 😎

  • @brocktechnology
    @brocktechnology 2 года назад +1

    "Apprentice teach me" respect.

  • @normbarrows
    @normbarrows 2 года назад +1

    Even unrestored it looks amazing for 194 years old.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад

      I agree, the back falling off and a few loose braces are the big issues.. oh, and the headstock I suppose

    • @roytofilovski9530
      @roytofilovski9530 2 года назад

      Agree 100%

  • @keithcrain
    @keithcrain Год назад

    When is the next vid in this series coming out?

  • @Fraser-P
    @Fraser-P 2 года назад

    Arrgh! I hate to complain because everything is normally great, but the wibbly wobbly camera work made me feel like I was on a boat.

  • @B.McAllister
    @B.McAllister 2 года назад +1

    Also I would love to see her play, does she have a channel of her own?

  • @patrickwilliams3108
    @patrickwilliams3108 2 года назад +1

    Oh, Ben! First thing you need to do is not take off the back. The first thing you need to do is to build a containment frame for the sides. If you remove the back without one, the sides may spring out a bit and the back will never fit again. The same is true for the top.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад

      Very good point, would be very scary to take it apart without a mould

  • @JacarandaMusic
    @JacarandaMusic 2 года назад

    It would have been really interesting and useful to see the label Ben. Is this guitar a ‘Fecit’ or “In the Spanish Style’? Most of the ‘Spanish’ ones were rosewood (veneer) and most of the ‘Fecit’ maple/cypress/similar. I have an 1838 ‘Spanish’ (with pegs) … you might want to compare and contrast at some point, I’m just down the road. Plus, do you know James Westbrook… he has a PhD in this maker.

  • @davidharper4814
    @davidharper4814 2 года назад

    You should make a kit of the replica

  • @Amrtidy
    @Amrtidy 2 года назад

    Did they use sellback 200 years ago, or was it something else?

  • @ronaldnieldschneider1855
    @ronaldnieldschneider1855 2 года назад

    I am going to love this one

  • @book3100
    @book3100 2 года назад

    Ooo, this one is special

  • @HandToolWoodGuy
    @HandToolWoodGuy 2 года назад

    Slammin' idea for a video!

  • @80shardrockRules
    @80shardrockRules 2 года назад

    I have worked on instruments from the period(mainly French guitars,some were on bits ), a friend owns many period originals.
    That is supposed to be a Fecit Panormo (french style black painted neck, but some are still fan braced! as transitional models )
    Let's go by parts, the instrument have been restored before (horribly). The finish (at least on the top), looks refinished to me ( gouges look darker, filled with shellac). The bridge is not original, they had pins and no saddles, so it is obviously being tampered. Now you have the added issue to revert it to an original bridge (due to the bigger size on that one)
    IMHO I would send it to someone who has experience on working with period instruments, Arthur Rob,Michael Nalysnyk or Scott Tremblay (all in UK). Those instruments are factory/workshop guitars but have a historical value (museum pieces, they are the evolution of Cadiz guitars,even Sor mentioned them...)

  • @SHUB_MetalZone
    @SHUB_MetalZone 2 года назад

    cool, that promise really interesting videos about knowing how it's feasible to saving old guitars that are in a so bad state instead to send them to trash bin 😉

  • @RichardLWhite
    @RichardLWhite 2 года назад +1

    I find all the videos interesting..keep on mixing it up..

  • @McSlobo
    @McSlobo 2 года назад

    You could use LIDAR to scan it, get measurements. Just throw an iPhone Pro in (if it fits) ;)

  • @asafpelleh7594
    @asafpelleh7594 2 года назад +1

    Ben, there's an actual person beside you. That person is presentable! 1 up for Crimson!

  • @rickym29
    @rickym29 2 года назад

    THIS is the kinda shit I love 🙏🏻

  • @roytofilovski9530
    @roytofilovski9530 2 года назад +1

    Ivory frets? That was a thing?

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад

      Yep.. I'll show you another guitar we have to work on for the museum

  • @terrygribb9185
    @terrygribb9185 2 года назад +1

    Lovely old guitar... i wonder what its worth.

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад +1

      Restored about £5k. But it will be on loan as part of the museum collection in the end.

    • @terrygribb9185
      @terrygribb9185 2 года назад

      @@CrimsonCustomGuitars wow

  • @raymondrodgers281
    @raymondrodgers281 2 года назад +1

    She could have been a model for Maxfield Parrish or Alphonse Mucha.

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E 2 года назад

    It almost looks like Flamed Lacewood or Myrtle, I don't believe it's Sycamore or Maple as there's none of the typical Growth rings associated with those species!

  • @tanner82274
    @tanner82274 2 года назад

    I would like to see what it opinion on some others RUclips videos on how they do repairs reactions I don't know a thing about repairing guitars but some of the stuff I have seen seems shady

  • @giovannifusto4454
    @giovannifusto4454 2 года назад

    Un saluto a Sofia dal italia👍

  • @steby123
    @steby123 2 года назад

    Courage Bravery; I would calling for a conservator !!!!!

  • @PaulCooksStuff
    @PaulCooksStuff 2 года назад

    Please film the episode where the Master teaches the Apprentice about time management 😜

    • @CrimsonCustomGuitars
      @CrimsonCustomGuitars  2 года назад

      What do these words 'time' and 'management' have to do with each other.. I see no relation Paul, none at all..