(229) The Farragut Class (James T. Kirk's Starship!)
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024
- In this episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Farragut Class, as first seen in the Season Finale of Season 1 of Strange New Worlds!! Hope you enjoy it :)
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I like how the Enterprise was his first Connie now, having him go from one to the other made the posting less special in my eyes. Now we see what he was on and what he is gonna be on and there is no question he got an upgrade
This single comment has changed my whole view on the Farragut.
Always had such a soft spot ships with underslung nacels and this one really is a beauty ❤
I like how the Farragut Class class looks like such a simple ship.. The Connies saucer with 2 nacells hanging from below.. Looks like a cheep but what should be a fast build..
I've always been fond of the _nacelle-under_ designs vs the _nacelle-over_ most starships seem to sport.
To me the N-U appears more rugged and somehow more stable (probably a hold over from wet navy days).
I would hope we actually get to see the transfer of command from Pike to Kirk in SNW. I would have assumed the Farragut class to be a slightly older design but this does make alot of sense.
Thank you, and I guess time will tell, but I hope we do as well :)
Great video I've always loved Farragut's design
I do too! Thank you :)
GREAT VID!!! I really like the concept of corridor alcove bunks. Those decks must have a musty aura about them. Lol
Lol im sure they must! Lol
Love the strange new worlds designs! Great video as always!
Thank you so much!
Honestly looks like a Miranda precursor. I'm rather pleased at the Farragut getting a new design because TOS reused model kits for ship extras to the point it could be safe to assume the connie was the fleet work horse. Ya FASA added classes but they were all beta cannon.
So seeing this ship on screen was quite a treat.
Now I’m kinda interested to see a video on that ship from the frozen planet that Hemmer was tragically taken from us on. The basically shrunken down Connie.
In the future, for sure!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Does that ship’s class have a cannon name?
Yes, if memory serves, the Sombra Class
nice job working the california class style barracks-hallway design into this.
Thank you very much!
Great video! Been curious about this design:)
Glad you like it! Thanks!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form and format provided on this subject matter on the Farragut class of Starship's and it's engine's capabilites and of its functions and abilities and duties and mission requirements, And on all its weapons systems and sheild strengths, A job very nicely well done as always indeed Sir!.👌.
As always, thank you so much :)
I was a little bummed they didn't make the Farragut a Connie in SNW but at the same time I can understand why they decided to make it a different class all together.
I was completely okay with it... I was never attached to the Connie idea I guess lol
It does make sense.
I’ve always loved the series you make
Thank you so much!
It never made much sense for Kirk’s prior ship to also be a constitution class. Generally, captains are promoted from older, smaller ships to newer bigger ships. There could be horizontal transfers for staffing issue tho.
i wonder if we see the variant of the Connie like the Peregrine
Lol thats a great idea ;)
Before we had the Kurtzman series. The Farragut was considered a Constitution Class via Pocket Books and fan speculation.
Whether it’s the Walker, Bellophron, Nebula and or Miranda. They are almost the same feel with a single saucer with two nacelle downwards.
Simple yet affective, there is always a story to tell with these type of Star Vessels.
Indeed it was, but now we know better! ;)
You have go do the ships from Klingon Academy. The UFP ships have almost zero lore on them and it would be fun to see your take on them.
The problem usually is acquiring usable 3d models of those ships :(
"Picard to Farragut."
Transporter Operator: What did he just call me?
I dont get it...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios The Nostalgia Critic years ago did a series of reviews on the odd numbered Star Trek movies. That line was from his Star Trek: Generations review.
Doug Walker was making a gag that made it sound like Picard was calling the transporter operator an fa-word.
Ahhhhhh ok! LOL I get it now LOL
Looks like a Federation frigate from Star Fleet Battles.
My thoughts exactly-a Burke Class frigate.
To be fair, the confusion over the Farragut's class is understandable. In the Original Series, only one kind of starship was ever spoken of or depicted on screen, The Constitution Class. This was due to both series plot and budgetary reasons. It's only now, some forty years later, that there is finally time and money to construct completely new models of other starship classes from that era. Though they are still working with the idea that ships like the Enterprise was the biggest and most cutting edge ship in the fleet, so the Farragut ended up being smaller and less powerful.
Absolutely the confusion was understandable, before it was clarified in canon! So there is no confusion anymore... Except for some who dont want to accept it...
Man that torp had some power it just stopped it in its tracks and almost cut it in half.
I know right?
You should see what it does to a star base!
@@charlescassels3826 what starbase lol.
Gerat Video. Very nice infromtionen
Thanks Dom
imagine have oberth class as asuccessor 💀
The Farragut has been and always will be a TOS Constitution class starship NCC-1702
Sorry you are incorrect... All that was is fan fiction, nothing more! Canonically it has been, and always will be NCC-1647
I like watching you videos
Thank you so much :)
The Farragut is in a class all it's own. Although I like the Farragut as a Constitution Class, I can see why Beta Canon has it right.
Beta Canon never has it right! Only Alpha canon matters!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Now that I think about it, your right. Only Alpha canon matters. Thank you for the clarification.
No problem, it's what Im (and the video intro) is here for :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Thank you my friend. I look forward to more videos. Make it so.
You're welcome!
the bottom bulge could have been extended just a little more to give more room for maybe a mini hangar bay
My only question would be on the weapons. It looks like the saucer only has two dual banks on the top and maybe two more on the bottom with two forward torpedoes. While your numbers sound accurate, especially when Starfleet is trying to keep components modular, including the saucer of the Constitution.
Unfortunately, the Original 3d Modeler was less than accurate... But the stats in this video are correct!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios to your knowledge is there any canon information on the SNW Constitution possessing rear facing torpedoes?
Yes, Star Trek Enterprise, In a Mirror Darkly Part 2! If you consider them to both be the same ship classes ;) As I do ;)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios good point, forgot about that appearance. And quite a devastating appearance it was! That scene made the Defiant look to be the equal of the Galaxy class!
It could have been acknowledged how the inward-canted nacelle pylons were the result of input from Andorians on the design team, with an eye towards generating a more compact and efficient warpfield, with the added benefit of providing more protection for the nacelles. This design characteristic would surface again in other Andorian-influenced designs such as the Northhampton, the Thufir, and (unsurprisingly) the Andor classes.
No it couldnt! As it's not true! Neither Canon nor Beta Canon supports that...
PS The Classes you mentioned from the TMP Era, also have no real commonalities with this design... So you've got nothing there either!
Only one problem. Your model shows 4 twin bank phaser and 2 forward-firing torpedo tubes with no aft-firing tubes. Not 6 twin banks and one tube forward one tube rear.
I did not make the model, I can only use/ do what I can use/ do! Ill let the model maker know of your dissatisfaction with their hard work!
Is there a TOS skin of The Farragut Class?
Those nacelle struts look wonky
I dont think so!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'm not blaming you, the model is accurate.
I never said you were, I just dont think they look wonky!
Ok, admittedly, I took Classics as an elective, now pushing 25 years ago, and one ought to be generous with unfamiliar words that are more common encountered written than spoken. But hearing Bellerophon pronounced "bell eh fur on" just breaks my brain. I learned to pronounce it as "bull air a fon". I could be wrong, I'll admit. Or there could be variations. But it just sounds weird to hear it like that... You know? But on the other hand, thanks to Trek Tube, I've also learned 47 different ways to say "Who mourns for Adonais", at least 44 of which are wrong, and 42 of those I'm pretty sure they're doing as a bit.
It is pronounced correctly for where I am from... Oh and its pronounced Ad-doe-ni-es!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios That's slightly different, but not a lot. I learned it Like "A-don-es". But I've heard others try to pass off "Ad-doe-ni-dus" as if there's an extra D that's clearly not there.
Yes, its certainly not Adones lol Many people think it is, but thats a totally different god ;) :P
I saw only 5 phaser banks and 2 forward torpedo and 1 aft tubes.
Then you haven't looked hard enough!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I've seen this on other models as well as what you have stated in your Video. If I'm mistaken: Me bad. I tend not to comment in error, No offense. Your channel is as the Germans are fond of saying: Wunder Baugh!!! Totally fun to watch. Thank-You. Sincerely, Daddy😁
LOL Daddy? LOL Im probably WAYYYYYYY older than you :P LOL
As for the 3d Model, Im only teasing you :P The creator of the 3d Model was less than accurate with this classes details, but my specs are correct, from the show!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Then you Sir, are indeed a master shipwright. Congratulations.... are in order. 😁
NCC 1702 was the Farragut that was destroyed on the TOS series.
No it wasn't, do better research in the future!
Just as a note, BUH-l-Air-ef-un, not Bell-le-FER-on.
Just as a note, no one asked... Your services as pronunciation police is neither desired, nor required. I pronounced it correctly for where I am from!
Mate, love your work, but in the Franz Joseph Technical Manual (which I know you love) the Farragut is listed as a Constitution class ship. Then, there is the GREAT series, Starship Farragut, that was also on a Connie.
Love your work, cool ship, but in my mind it's not the Farragut.
And the Franz Joseph Tech Manual was incorrect! It is Beta Canon, and Alpha Canon has proven it to be wrong. So no, it isnt and was never actually a Constitution Class! Your mind not withstanding!
That being said, it IS unfortunate, but exactly why I say in every intro about Beta Canon needing to be taken with a grain of stardust! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios "Canon" paramount productions have contradicted themselves, so I'm not one to go with something being "canon" just because it's on a modern interpretation (often a poor one) of Star Trek just because a major studio put it out there. I see Star Trek Continues, Starship Farragut, and Star Trek The New Voyages as much more "canon" than std, snv, or Picard.
No offense to you or people who get super strict in their own mind about "canon" being only from a studio production, but there are no actual laws, legal or metaphysical, relating to Star Trek canon. It's a great TV show, with a lot of stuff going on.
Franz Joseph's books came out way before anything else, helped keep the fandom going and fanned the flames of the developing Trek resurgence. Portions of them have been used in the movies. And as noted above, current studio productions contradict "canon" from earlier studio productions so that would negate them too. ... If this was anything more than just some Trek fun for all of us...
I really like your work, not just the visuals but the back stories you create for your "beta" "canon" vids. Great stuff. Just that for me (and I'll be I'm not the only one) the Starfleet U.S.S. Farragut that James T. Kirk served on was a Constitution class ship. I enjoyed this vid, but I'll file it in an "alternate universe" section of my mind. It's still better than the jj/edsel-verse... Cheers.
It doesn't matter how you or ANYone else feels about it, as canon is a matter of fact not emotion! And even I, being a HUGE Beta Canon fan can admit that... Canon has contradicted itself ever since TOS, so thats really no defense, besides, the Farragut being the class it is, has never once been contradicted by Canon, and again ALL Beta Canon is meaningless, and has NO bearing on Canon what so ever... So although you might love the idea, it just is not so... Its no different than someone saying they choose to think the world is flat... And PS I dont say any of this in anger or to disparage, merely to educate the reality of the situation! Take care
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i love your videos but sometimes the music is a little off putting like on this one for example for me it was a bit too loud in spots so it was just off putting
Im sorry it didnt work out for you personally!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios im not sure if anyone else is the same, theres points where the background music is nice where you can still hear it but theres certain points where i feel it gets a little too loud to where its distracting from hearing you speak if that makes sense i just wanted to let you know
Yeah, in 10s of thousands of comments you're the 3rd to have this issue... Therefore its most likely a you problem... But I do appreciate you letting me know!
Now I've realized the design weakness of the Constitution class was the saucer pylon. The intrepid hull design made more design sense blending into the lower hull.
Sounds like the Washington battleship treaty of the early 20th century.