this mix is perfect. there's nothing more that can be done to it and there's nothing that can be taken away. Rarely can an artist say their work is finished because they aren't really sure where that point is and when to stop ...but this mix is absolutely finished.
Just watched this during lunch with all 19 of my lab staff and students. Those who weren't interested before are now. Brilliant work, Unpleasant Mark! Thanks very much to you and Ibea Badass for taking the time to show us how the magic happens! Really interesting and informative.
cortical1 you are in charge of all these poor people? They will all now play you for leniency on the premise they share your music taste. Be warned! Thanks for the kind words though Old Chap! Glad you enjoyed 🍠🙌
@@markrobertsproducerenginee945 True. But if they want pay and/or doctoral degrees in my lab, they have to demonstrate a knowledge of how to recognize odd time signatures in prog metal. 🤟😎🤟
Thank you so much for this, I learned a lot. Particularly interesting to me was that every instrument had room mics on it - I never realized that this would be something you'd want to do on bass.
Yeah it is incredible how it adds to the mix. Check out the video from forrester savell where he shows deadman by karnivool. The bass played live with the drums and you can hear the bass on the drum channels and vice versa. This gives it the glue of the rooms. Very in interesting to watch! :)
Chris Walton yeah man, depending on your room it can be very useful. As “glue” but also to sit it back and make it a bit more 3D. Similar effect can be achieved with a good convolution reverb if you’re not in a big/nice room. Thanks so much for watching! 🥗🙌
Hey Mark, awesome job indeed. I also liked Rebea's reference to the Karnivool album Sound Awake, it is by far one of my favourites and I can hear some in this work pointing in that direction. Rebea is right, you are a fine good producer by far. Keep that vibe mate, and my life will look much much fullfilled🤟🏻
Mr. Rabea Massaad: put a link on your channel, cause this video is amazing and 675 klicks in 13 hours is just not enough! I am no professional, just playing at home and recording for exercises and fun. Lot into the IMMENSE sound of Toska songs. This video is an eye opener on how to achieve some immense sound, the lvl of detail and the work behind the scene. To see and hear how different stages of gain, effects like rev. and del., using different mic positions (or IRs , close mic, room mic) and the use of synth or modulation underneath a guitar track have an effect on sound is just mind blowing and more over helpful for people like me, who try to get some great sounds out of their rig they have at home. Have to say thanks to Mr. Roberts for uploading this brilliant breakdown!
Flo K Wow, thanks so much for watching and the kind words! Glad you’re getting something from it. Pretty sure Rabea shared the link, maybe this will be a slow burner 😊 All the best 👍🙌
Man it’s so cool to see all the unique sounds in this, especially as a guitarist it’s cool to see how the sounds are made up. I’m especially surprised by how slammed some aspects of the drums are. The mixing sounds awesome! Really impressed dude!
This was pretty great! I learned a lot from this that I feel like I've been missing out on. I'd love to see a similar video down the line with some Delta Sleep stuff too.
Thank you guys so much for letting us all learn A LOT with this amazing breakdown. It's really awesome and I am particularly surprised by those synths. I have never actually heard them and the difference that they make in terms of weight and definition is brutal. It would be awesome if maybe you let us have the multitrack. Tanks again guys... I really love both of you. Congratulations, amazing work.
I’m actually really surprised at how little snare ended up in the room mics, maybe just unlucky. Snare room sample is always killer. Thanks for the video Mark, was a treat
Nice one! Yeah, goes that way a bit sometimes. There’s other ways to bring out the snare should you want to avoid the room sample, might do a vid on that. Wasn’t too bad to be honest, some of what you might hear is where I’ve dipped midrange to control the cymbals which might mask the snare a little... ?
Mark Roberts Producer/Engineer Yeah definitely, I’d love to see your approach to that, with you being an engineer who likes to bring out the room in the drums. I’d love to spend a day in middle farm just collecting room samples for my own mixes, I couldn’t live without using them in the smaller rooms I’ve recorded drums in
Thank you so much for showing this, mark and rabea! I learned so many many many many things from all of your videos. I need to try things out on our own record. Especially the reverb ambient stuff is the most complicated for me to make things huge and not washy or a chaotic soup of sounds. I am very excited for the next videos. Keep up this glorious work! Thanks and greetings - Benny
thanks for the video , I love the way you manage to maintain the organic vibe of the band but make it polish and massively modern sounding ! Did you use a top down approach with master plugin chain while mixing by the way ?
louis coutellier thanks very much! In answer to your question - “kinda”. I didn’t do a full top down thing, I more mixed “into” some compression, eq and tape emulation. That stuff would be there pretty early on. I do top down mixing on drums and other individual elements. The overall mix is more just “mixing into” 🤓
I do have one question, though, about the recording site. I've noticed that Toska likes to record at Middle Farm Studios, which looks great. But as an audio engineer, Mark, wouldn't you also recommend that they make an album at Side Farm as well? JK. Stupid.
cortical1 if you’d done your homework, you should’ve known that Left Farm was cursed and Right Farm burnt down. Neither farm was especially great acoustically.
this mix is perfect. there's nothing more that can be done to it and there's nothing that can be taken away. Rarely can an artist say their work is finished because they aren't really sure where that point is and when to stop ...but this mix is absolutely finished.
If you went through the layers of the transition tracks (for instance the fire crackling at the start of ‘Fire by the Silos’) that would be class!
Massive wall of sound on the album, never realized how many layers/mics/room mics were blended together to archieve this!
19:56 Hearing Rabea reference Sound Awake (my favorite album of all time) just made my day.
Just watched this during lunch with all 19 of my lab staff and students. Those who weren't interested before are now. Brilliant work, Unpleasant Mark! Thanks very much to you and Ibea Badass for taking the time to show us how the magic happens! Really interesting and informative.
cortical1 you are in charge of all these poor people?
They will all now play you for leniency on the premise they share your music taste. Be warned!
Thanks for the kind words though Old Chap! Glad you enjoyed 🍠🙌
@@markrobertsproducerenginee945 True. But if they want pay and/or doctoral degrees in my lab, they have to demonstrate a knowledge of how to recognize odd time signatures in prog metal. 🤟😎🤟
Fucking loved every second of this. Fire by the silos changed my year and my life. Please go over "When Ghengis Wakes" !!
Thank you so much for this, I learned a lot. Particularly interesting to me was that every instrument had room mics on it - I never realized that this would be something you'd want to do on bass.
Yeah it is incredible how it adds to the mix. Check out the video from forrester savell where he shows deadman by karnivool. The bass played live with the drums and you can hear the bass on the drum channels and vice versa. This gives it the glue of the rooms. Very in interesting to watch! :)
Chris Walton yeah man, depending on your room it can be very useful. As “glue” but also to sit it back and make it a bit more 3D. Similar effect can be achieved with a good convolution reverb if you’re not in a big/nice room. Thanks so much for watching! 🥗🙌
Benny Elsensohn need to check that out myself! Ta!
Hey Mark, awesome job indeed. I also liked Rebea's reference to the Karnivool album Sound Awake, it is by far one of my favourites and I can hear some in this work pointing in that direction. Rebea is right, you are a fine good producer by far. Keep that vibe mate, and my life will look much much fullfilled🤟🏻
Mikky Whites thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed the video! 🙏
Mr. Rabea Massaad: put a link on your channel, cause this video is amazing and 675 klicks in 13 hours is just not enough! I am no professional, just playing at home and recording for exercises and fun. Lot into the IMMENSE sound of Toska songs. This video is an eye opener on how to achieve some immense sound, the lvl of detail and the work behind the scene. To see and hear how different stages of gain, effects like rev. and del., using different mic positions (or IRs , close mic, room mic) and the use of synth or modulation underneath a guitar track have an effect on sound is just mind blowing and more over helpful for people like me, who try to get some great sounds out of their rig they have at home.
Have to say thanks to Mr. Roberts for uploading this brilliant breakdown!
Flo K Wow, thanks so much for watching and the kind words! Glad you’re getting something from it.
Pretty sure Rabea shared the link, maybe this will be a slow burner 😊
All the best 👍🙌
This is GOLD! This album is a great production inspiration for me and this breakdown has taught me so much! 🔥
Mattia Rebuffo thank you!! 🙏
Man it’s so cool to see all the unique sounds in this, especially as a guitarist it’s cool to see how the sounds are made up.
I’m especially surprised by how slammed some aspects of the drums are. The mixing sounds awesome! Really impressed dude!
Josh Castle thanks man! Yeah blending slammed stuff in really helps maintain the energy and excitement. Thanks for watching, Dude! 🙏🤙🍠🥕
thank you so much! gained a LOT of information from this. keep up the great work mark and rabea! (and welcome back to youtube..)
Jand Gand thanks so much! Will try and keep these videos coming 🤙🙏
This is gold, A mix breakdown of CONGRESS too would be gr8.
nicw work Mark and Rabea....very inspiring......and clearly know what's happening in the Mix........nice Studio Also...
This was pretty great! I learned a lot from this that I feel like I've been missing out on. I'd love to see a similar video down the line with some Delta Sleep stuff too.
Great video guys, thank you for all the detail shared here and time put into it! I'm just feeling even more love for middle farm now haha
Yeah man, what a room 🙌
Excellent video Mark and Bea! Absolutely captivating and extremely informative... GREAT JOB!!
Spuds McSpudsie thanks so much, Spuds 🥔 🙏
Thank you guys so much for letting us all learn A LOT with this amazing breakdown. It's really awesome and I am particularly surprised by those synths. I have never actually heard them and the difference that they make in terms of weight and definition is brutal. It would be awesome if maybe you let us have the multitrack. Tanks again guys... I really love both of you. Congratulations, amazing work.
María José López thanks for the kind words! 🙌
@@markrobertsproducerenginee945 as an engineer myself, it's an honor to learn from someone like you.
I’m actually really surprised at how little snare ended up in the room mics, maybe just unlucky. Snare room sample is always killer. Thanks for the video Mark, was a treat
Nice one! Yeah, goes that way a bit sometimes. There’s other ways to bring out the snare should you want to avoid the room sample, might do a vid on that.
Wasn’t too bad to be honest, some of what you might hear is where I’ve dipped midrange to control the cymbals which might mask the snare a little... ?
Mark Roberts Producer/Engineer Yeah definitely, I’d love to see your approach to that, with you being an engineer who likes to bring out the room in the drums. I’d love to spend a day in middle farm just collecting room samples for my own mixes, I couldn’t live without using them in the smaller rooms I’ve recorded drums in
Thank you so much for showing this, mark and rabea! I learned so many many many many things from all of your videos. I need to try things out on our own record. Especially the reverb ambient stuff is the most complicated for me to make things huge and not washy or a chaotic soup of sounds. I am very excited for the next videos. Keep up this glorious work!
Thanks and greetings - Benny
Benny Elsensohn thanks so much! I’ll keep them coming 👍🙏
That was sick. I would love to see a mix breakdown of Congress. Did you master the album too?
thanks for the video , I love the way you manage to maintain the organic vibe of the band but make it polish and massively modern sounding !
Did you use a top down approach with master plugin chain while mixing by the way ?
louis coutellier thanks very much!
In answer to your question - “kinda”. I didn’t do a full top down thing, I more mixed “into” some compression, eq and tape emulation. That stuff would be there pretty early on.
I do top down mixing on drums and other individual elements. The overall mix is more just “mixing into”
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Mark Roberts Producer/Engineer thanks for your answer and for sharing all of your knowledge 😁😁
Mega 🤟Some proper wizardry going on here
Horizon Mastering cheers, dowg! You played your pet eh?! 🤙🥨
Anychance we get the Multitrack Stems ?
Daniel Sharma this would be amazing
Daniel Sharma might take the magic away a little no? Easy for me to say though I guess 🤭 Thanks for watching!!
Love this Something like this but with Austerity's Glass House would be amazing! Love the mixing of that whole album
I do have one question, though, about the recording site. I've noticed that Toska likes to record at Middle Farm Studios, which looks great. But as an audio engineer, Mark, wouldn't you also recommend that they make an album at Side Farm as well? JK. Stupid.
cortical1 if you’d done your homework, you should’ve known that Left Farm was cursed and Right Farm burnt down.
Neither farm was especially great acoustically.
@@markrobertsproducerenginee945 🤣😂
Brilliant Mark! Anyway to get the bass and drums as a backing track? That would be amazing!
Stark's Beard would be up to the band mate. Thanks so much for watching! 🙌🙌🍠
Im really interested in the guitars of When Ghengis Wakes and the drums of Congress
I definitely understand the benefits of using a Leslie that's not in ship shape. I dated a Leslie in college like that.
cortical1 if they’re too sprightly, one can tend to feel inadequate...
@@markrobertsproducerenginee945 Life truisms.
Synthi boi