They just need to have a big red mute button when someone starts interrupting mute the individual and when the original speakers done their point unmute
They get more views if it's a clown show. These podcasts are not organized to solve the Israel - Palestine problem. Even if they wanted to, they can't. Everyone involved in the discussions has virtually 0 power to change anything
That sounds reasonable and a way to encourage useful discourse. This is a show for entertainment and the arguments generate more views and thus ad dollars. But I agree with you.
man what a time to be alive. ppl used to hate being seen as ridiculous on the internet now they are striving to do that. they see it as an achievement if they make a fool of themselves and post it on the internet.
The "genocide" that everyone keeps referring to is Hamas digging the graves and dumping the bodies then filming it claiming its a mass grave. How about America stays out of it and fix American issues
People are selective in the evidence they choose to use. Plenty exists to back Israel that's simply scoffed at, despite legitimacy, meanwhile the same people lap up Hamas propaganda without thought.
@@achmahnsch it's why is so frustrating when you debate. you can take the time to look things up get a bigger picture follow an issue for years. Yet most of the time anything you post no matter how fact check with historic back up going to get called lies and you labeled something absurd so the other side can just defect and dismiss. More so with an issue like the israel palestine conflict where emotions run high. Doesn't help the real truth is neither side is innocent neither side has a moral leg to stand on. This just makes it worse as both side try to claim the moral high ground when neither have it.
Piers Morgan aka The "Mediator" needs priority speech or mute button, so he can be in-charge to let people take turns talking. Instead of this incessive rambling over each other.
The problem is that this makes for better tv, so they won't. They want people to look foolish and angry because the postmenopausal woman who watch the show eat it up.
this is precisely what he wants don't be silly. There are plenty of places for real debate and discourse and you probably don't visit those places but here you are lol
Omg it would be so damn funny if Piers could just hit a button that mutes everyone else and then quietly explain that he will hold down that button untill everyone stopped talking.
Piers Morgan's editor took out a peace call for the Israel/ Palestine conflict when Hasan Piker was talking about it at minute 28:13. I wonder what he said.
@@emne5750 yeah or vice versa, especially in the time of social media its often also the other way around. People thinking what they see online as what they should strive to be. Not really ‘art’ but you probably understand where I’m comming from.
Do you know it’s really funny the more I watch people do these pseudo debates the more I realize that none of these people have ever debated anything or anyone. It is so easy to listen to what somebody is saying write down points you disagree with and then reply after they’re finished speaking.
With sound effects! Scratch em in and out like a DJ! (EERA-ERA, no). Or team up with nintendo. Pipe sounds for mute, mushroom for unmute. Classic level start sound before each topic, coin sounds for things peirce agrees with! The goalie whistle (death sound) reserved for breaking up arguments. All OG supermario sounds.
@stirringlemur Idk man evil is real so if evil is real then there must be the opposite equivalent of that which is good. There can be no heaven without hell and vice and versa.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 this is the first thing in my existence as a human to question my own belief (atheism) i feel like ive only seen evil in the world, and not heaven. But if this is the case, where is the heaven you are referring to?
@@rippy4323 losing the battle to evil. If you read the bible as well as the texts of pretty much any other ancient religion you will see they all revolve around the eternal struggle of positive and negative energies that permeate the fabric of space time. basically the entire universe.
it didn't start on October 7: ▪Haifa massacre - March 6, 1937 ▪Jerusalem massacre - Dec 6, 1937 ▪Haifa massacre - March 27, 1938 ▪Haifa massacre - July 6, 1938 ▪Jerusalem massacre - July 13, 1938 ▪Jerusalem massacre - July 15, 1938 ▪Haifa massacre - July 25, 1938 ▪Jerusalem massacre - July 26, 1938 ▪Balad al-Sheikh massacre - June 12, 1939 ▪Haifa massacre - June 19, 1939 ▪Haifa massacre - June 20, 1947 ▪Jaffa massacre - Dec 12, 1947 ▪Abbasiya massacre - Dec 13, 1947 ▪Al-Khasas massacre - Dec 18, 1947 ▪Bab al-Amud massacre - Dec 29, 1947 ▪Jerusalem massacre - Dec 30, 1947 ▪Balad al-Sheikh massacre - Dec 31, 1947 ▪Deir Yassin massacre - April 9, 1948 ▪Abu Shusha village massacre - May 9, 1948 ▪Tantura massacre - May 22, 1948 ▪Lydda massacre - July 1948 ▪Qibya massacre - Oct 14, 1953 ▪Al-Dawayima massacre - Oct 29, 1948 ▪Kafr Qasem massacre - Oct 29, 1956 ▪Khan Yunis massacre - Nov 3, 1956 ▪Rafah massacre - Nov 12, 1956 ▪Abu Zaabal factory bombing - Feb 13, 1970 ▪Sabra and Shatila massacre - Sept 16, 1982 ▪Al-Aqsa Mosque massacre - Oct 8, 1990 ▪lbrahimi Mosque massacre - Feb 25, 1994 ▪Qana massacre - April 18, 1996 ▪Jenin massacre - April 3, 2002 ▪Qana massacre - July 30, 2006 ▪Gaza Strip massacre - August 5, 2022 ▪Jenin massacre - January 26, 2023 ▪Jenin massacre - July 3, 2023 learn about history before trying to give your opinion on this conflict, if some idf people came to your country slaughtering your friends and family, raping your daughters and sisters and mothers for years, stealing your lands, your houses and treating you like an animal for over 75 years till this day, and when you fight back you'd be called a terrorist? yes what happened in october the seventh was bad, but look at this list and see how many Palestinians were killed maybe your dead rotten brain will get some cells working on
Yo chief this aint enough, you skipped from 2006 to 2023, a lot more has happened between those too, especially the peacful protest called the great march of return in 2018
@@koo1770 i dont think the OP's point is to represent the entire history between them. Yes Palestinians also did stuff back, fought back, retaliated, killed civilians, launched rockets, did bombings, I dont think anyone here disagrees. The comment wasnt made to say "look theyve done so much to us and we didnt do anything back", it was more so that "look this has been happening for so long, you cant say it was done because terrorists felt like being terrorists on that day" Nevertheless asymmetry is very apparent.
If you're reading this, my advice to you is to go watch a funny cat video or something instead of reading these comments further so you don't lose your mind over the all the keyboard experts in here. Its not worth the headaches.
@aloblanko he doesn't think that or even suggest that. All he said was that we don't elect smart people. And he's right, because the majority of us aren't smart enough to do so
I hate things like this. They aren’t there to listen to each other, they’re there to spew their position at each other. Have a legitimate conversation.
I mean even when debates are conducted more professionally, rarely if ever does either side just go "Oh that's a good point that debunks my argument entirely." So IMO sometimes watching a bunch of clowns fling shit at each other is more enjoyable than a bunch of debate bros acting like they're not just doing a fancier version of that.
@@kungfuvoodoo9889While I agree with your point. The decorum of an actual conversation lets spectators listen to both viewpoints clearly. Without things getting lost in an ocean of stupidity.
Like dude she she talked over him twice and still remained quiet it wasn't until the thrid time where it was clear that she wasn't going to let him finsh answering a single question that he then interrupted her after she had just interrupted him.
You made a good point at 28:50 at who decides terror groups. Nelson Mandela was labeled as a terrorist despite most people agreeing now that he is a hero and good person for going against apartheid in South Africa.
Also, I feel like the points you made about the hostages being political tools are correct but it doesn't correlate with the point Hasan was making towards her. Obviously, Hamas is using them as a political tool. He meant that she is using them as a political tool for herself to become successful. Just not sure if you got that based on your comments.
@@thatpandaz6094 "nothing comes from peaceful protest". Maybe you need a history book. Most things came from peaceful protests. It was violence that threatened the success of the protests.
It always depends on one's opinion on the idea of "means to an end", what you might think is justified or not simply represents the extent of an immoral action to which you are willing to accept that the result was better than the means by which it was taken. E.g. Take the bombing of Hiroshima, some might say it was an unjustified action, whilst still admitting that ending WW2 was also potentially for the greater good. Now, for others, they may deem the ending of WW2 as more important, it's just a different approach to how you accept means to an end.
16:05 gonna have to disagree, you dont aim a gun at anyone no matter what. always assume the gun is loaded even when its not, plenty of irresponsible gun owners assumed their guns are unloaded and accidentally hurt themselves, hurt someone, killed someone or offed themselves. this is something gun safety courses are taught, but for some reason people forget this lesson.
I'm from the uk and even i know that's the first rule of gun handling safety, 1st rule always assume a gun is loaded even when you know it's not, 2nd rule never point the gun at anything u dont intend to destroy.
My dad had a coworker who brought his shotgun at work (70s, midnight shift) to show him. He played aimed it at my dad and my dad wouldn't have it, told him off and was incessant. Dude finally relented. Later thst night it was aimed towards the ceiling and he somehow got his fingers on the trigger. Blew a hole in the ceiling. All that time he thought it wasn't loaded, and he intended to "shoot" my dad thinking it was a joke and not loaded. Doesn't matter if you know it or not. You could have a clear plastic gun and see for a fact no bullet is loaded in it. It's always loaded, always.
@@Vibe_Master_007 Spoken like a sleepy baby who just learned the word. Palestine is pretty unique in its link to the establishment of modern human rights laws, including the Geneva Conventions. On the practical side of things, Israel is uniquely entangled in US foreign policy - something non-babies can detect without much trouble. So whenever the US govt makes a foreign policy decision that could impact the status of Israel in the region, that policy decision is heavily shaped by that relationship. Those decisions (which extend to Pentagon budget planning) then have a ripple effect on a whole bunch of other relationships. Guess what's at the center of it all: Palestine. But don't worry, there's still time to get educated about how the human world works.
59:30 this entire video has been pretty reasonable but comparing the 70 year conflict between Israel and Palestine to 9/11 is dangerous oversimplifying of the relationship.
It sounds reasonable, but it isn't. I don't think it's reasonable at all to give the Israeli perspective equal weight to the palestinian perspective when one side is committing an active genocide against another.
@@David-uc4hc Hamas committed a genocide on October 7th with explicit targeting of civilians. Israel isn’t targeting civilians and pretty clearly discriminating towards combatants after having the largest civilian massacre against Jews since the Holocaust against them along with sexual violence, including gang rape and genital mutilation, and hostage taking-which massively weakens the genocide as opposed to it being a war.
@@meltedsnowman9637 everything you stated as already been debunked as lies by the Israeli propaganda machine. But go on, tell me more about the moral army that is the IDF.
@@meltedsnowman9637 Israel lost 1200 people. Gaza lost 30,000+ people. Israel's population is 9.5 million. Gaza 2 million. You are literally saying that Jewish lives are more important than Gazans. This is a genocide.
That is why you control the volume of people's mic as a show runner, so the viewers can only hear one or the other depending who it is time to talk, you could even add a mic off symbol on the screen
I think it's just that piers respects free speech and thinks even if that would make production quality better it would undercut the guests free speech.
@@Solizeusits good entertainment, their viewership probably had good retention rate during that trash fire Not specific to politics, drama is interesting to most people
Just want to let Asmon know don’t be too shocked at classes ending before the end of the semester. It’s late April. The end of the semester is basically now. Finals are about to start
Why the fuck is Asmon doing politics now? If i wanted to watch someone with no clue what they're talking about talk politics id watch senators press conferences lol
Protest are meant to be a peaceful way to get your message across, it becomes a riot once violence and crimes ensue. These are mostly rioters overshadowing the people who are actually trying to make a change the right way.
@@kirid5773 An unlawful assembly is also considered a crime too. Does that mean that the civil rights protests of the 60s were criminal? No. Speaking out against Israel gets you unjustly punished and is considered a crime as well, i.e the TIkTok ban.
I usually agree with Asmon's takes, but I feel like there's important nuance missing here. The ruling class are the ones making the rules and they always will be. If these rules happen to be unjust, or contradictory, or hypocritical, then the people living under those rules should be able to let it be known, and some level of discomfort or annoyance is most likely required to start that conversation. Yes, the people breaking rules are committing crimes. However, if they didn't, the ruling class would simply ignore their criticisms to keep living in the world they crafted for themselves. Talking about it would definitely be the best solution, but politicians have ignored the will of the people for years in favor of industry money, on both sides of the aisle.
Their critism is ignored anyway and their political enemies weaponise the footage of their violent behaviour, the moment you start breaking stuff, you're written off by everyone whose life you damaged. The ruling class changes based on who is voted in, multiple countries have pretty significantly changing governments in recent times. We in Poland just did that, the party at the top sucked so hard that their grip on the country cracked. Why? Because people voted and with no need to riot and attack each other
@@GoRamz No, I support peaceful protests, even if they might inconvenience some people. Obviously I don't support violence and retaliation, my comment made no mention of it.
@laogon09 "The voice of the unheard" is still wrong. If that's how you get the ruling class to listen, then you don't deserve to be listened to in the first place. Either get better arguments or reassess your worldview, because its not convincing enough. Shit, or get off the pot.
Go to Palestine and do something about it. Crying in the US/on the internet does what exactly? People went and volunteered in Ukraine, Iraq and Syria (when ISIS was big).
Why should I care? Please explain. I'm assuming you're probably some atheist liberal so why would I waste evolutionary energy on stopping might makes right? If you're not some atheist liberal, why are you pushing your religion on me when I have nothing to do with it? Push it on them.
classes cancelled until the end of the semester isnt as insane as it sounds because theres literally only 2 weeks left until the end of the semester so its not much
for some it ends with the end of april so that is 4 days away when this was uploaded so yeah, ethnic cleansing, murdering millions vs closing a few schools for less then a week or two, when the semester is already almost over anyway, is a very fucked up comparison
@@WhyFacetattoos What's absurd is a higher death count per day ratio than WW2 with 70-80% of all victims being kids and women ,,Those are hamas numbers" yea, which have been historically correct and even quoted by Israel themselves School doesnt matter when literal lives are on the line
@@WhyFacetattoosin person classes weren’t really canceled, they were moved to online. This wasn’t done due to danger, it was to minimize the people joining the protests because people kept joining after they had the first few students arrested when they didn’t do anything wrong in the first place
It depends for the protest thing. In Paris, people were mad at Extinction rebellion when they blocked roads because it didn't have a clear impact on solving the climate crisis but people were generally not mad when farmers were blocking the roads because there is an understanding that even if they are making our lives worse now, they are important and the government will react to a huge blockade.
As far as Asmon talking about what happened during the American revolution, he speaks as though all of "America" was America at the time of revolt...we didnt have to go to England to kill innocent British people. They were in America...which was a British colony at the time. I dont understand how he doesnt see that...
Like the American situation is almost a perfect allegory for the Palestine israel conflict, or the Russia Ukraine conflict. England was the Russia of that time, the isreal of that time. And America was the Ukraine, the palestine in their respective conflicts.
Assmongold the white moderate is more devoted to "order" than to justice and prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
The primary issue is that nearly EVERYONE makes things personal. Take free speech, for example. The right and left literally swapped opinions because leaders on each side also changed their opinions 🤣 I disagree with Asmon’s moderate liberal opinions, but the guy does one thing most people can’t do and I respect that. He has ideas and they’re his. He gives zero fucks what people agree with him or not.
@@brendandrummond1739 I think people supporting a genocide are more delusional than terrorists who wouldn't exist if the Palestinians had just been given a small slice of dignity by the international community. Imagine if the illegal immigrants people are always on about said that America belonged to them, started renaming cities and then eventually overthrew the government and renamed the entire nation and subjugated all the Americans that were already living in America.
@@brendandrummond1739 Do you really think the reason for all this is to defend hamas? Or to defend the innocent people who are suffering from all this bullshit..?
Exactly. Even if it was always a crime, that's a naive stance to take (Well A=B so there!) that you can only make from the safety of a computer desk. Asmond likes to pontificate consistently about being realistic... and that he doesn't care about 'the law' only 'what's right'... but only when it agrees with his world view. A protest is going to be disruptive... or else you shouldn't even bother with the protest. Protesting from the sidelines against the consumption of Demon Beef while McDonalds sells demon beef, as people walk in and out of the McDonalds freely to purchase demon beef, and McDonalds continues to make billions of dollars on demon beef... means every protestor there is just wasting hours of their lives.
When people are involved in a dispute for a long time, no one remembers why it started and why it is continuing. You will see this with individuals and nations. The dispute feeds on itself. Feelings replace logic. No one can win.
People really don't realise how much being born in a place that lacks historically based conflicts is a blessing. This is an everyone is fcked situation.
Community Notes on X are making taking someone out of context, more and more difficult, as you will be immediately exposed with the link of the video in context. So this used to work all the time, but now not so much, which is why I absolutely love that feature.
@@t0mahawkj0nes Don't attack the argument, but attack the person instead, typical comments reply when you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.
@@shuriken4852 What argument? I literally am asking if you work there? Maybe you should look at how you attack people or whatever delusions you are having. You literally sound like you work there, so I asked.
@@t0mahawkj0nes The implication is that my comment has to be done because I work at X and I am shilling. How does me working at X relevant or not to the validity of my argument, either it is true or it is not, so if you have a counter argument make it, otherwise my point stands.
@@highlordlaughterofcanada8685i think most people in the world see that.. they’re just not the loud ones. It’s why most people support Palestine.. case they don’t want war period.
1. There are winners in war: The strong. The strong do what they can, while the weak suffer what they must. This is the way of the world. So, if you want peace, you must be prepared for war, to be the strong. Only then you can choose what you want for yourself, and what to do with those weaker than you. 2. Innocent =/= Weak. Not all innocents are weak, and not all weak people are innocent.
I mean, at this point, both sides are not good in image, the biggest issue is the Terrorists being protected somehow. But then again, not there to see and speak about what happened and even if I was, most likely I would end up having a bias too
bro i hate listening to these. they talk over each other like children and won't listen to answers, jumps over 15 hoops to make crazy claims about what the other person said, it just feels like they make no progress in their discussions.
I am assuming that's the standard for debates broadcast on TV, internet or whatever media it is, bring a bunch of clowns and let them say what they want
but bro there is a difference between believing youre being genocided and actual bombs being dropped on you and your entire family...how can you not see the uneven scale of percpectives whilst making it seem like people cant seem to put themsleves into other people shoes?
Have her and hasan be roommates in there, and in order for them to be released back into polite society they have to come to agreement about this issue lol. I guess that'd probably be a life sentence, but the world would be a better place.
Not to be rude to you or call you out but a lot of videos and comments have been omitted by platforms such as these. And not just about controversial topics but topics pertaining to the possibility of another dimension or mentioning Quantum Physics to support an alternative theory, or even talking about new technologies and or exposing bad ideas and figures. There are a lot of narratives and teachings that we were taught as kids and have been misleading or just false. So this whole Age of Information idea only works when there is freedom of speech. The truth cannot be suppressed forever so I'm hopeful for the future. I'm a Millennial by the way.
Asmond, your attitude is the reason why disruptive protest are effective. People don't care about an issue unless it affects them directly, so when the people who it does affect get loud enough for everyone else to hear them it's suddenly a bigger issue. If you want the disruption to stop, fix the issue causing people to be disruptive. "That's not how it works" it literally is how it works
The whole issue of this conversation was the fact that there was no moderation. Let one person speak and mute everyone else so they don’t randomly shout on top of the speaker. Piers L imo.
32:49 Why make the video then? Why weigh in on topic that you care nothing about but only because of revenue generation? This is a disgusting, abhorrent viewpoint to have. Only when it personally affects him, he will take action against it, without any sort of inquiry.
its like he thinks his voice will be “the one” to shut down all the discourse, like he knows exactly how everybody is feeling. truth is he looks at things from an american individualistic point of view where hes the only one that matters. “i dont care what cause youre protesting for, youre inconveniencing me”. this dude barely leaves his house and wants to complain about people never doing anything to fix the problem, yet the second people organize and start protesting, its just illegal and they need to stop?
@@strayexk7157 EXACTLY. the only people who dont like protesters are either A. people who dont want anything to get done or B. people who dont actually care and just dont want to be inconvenienced (literally the stance asmon takes)
Look at the content he makes. It's either him playing games or him reacting to videos that his followers chuck at him. This was the case of the latter. Also reality check: majority of people living outside of the Middle East don't really care about this war, because they and their society is not a part of it. You need to stop thinking things on SNSs are what the whole world acts/thinks like. Go outside your house and listen/watch what people are talking about. Are they talking about Israel vs Hamas? The answer is "No, they don't. They are just living their lives". You have the right to disagree with what Asmon says/does, but that does not take away Asmon's freedom of speech. He is not violating any laws nor RUclips terms of service.
@MIZZKIE where did anyone infringe in Asmon's freedom of speech? Asmon offered opinions. People have opinions about those opinions. No one is advocating Asmon be disallowed from speaking.
Asmon needs to understand that sometimes political issue aren't covered fairly by the party duopoly because of the nature of the american political system, which works on first past the post (broadest appeal wins) and the interests of the billionaires who fund both parties' establishments and this doesn't mean the issue isn't important enough. back in the 1800s you couldn't vote for a women's right to vote.
Israel was created by a bunch of British Zionists. The "good vs evil" is the whole darn point. It's biblical bs (and also about the West getting a foothold on the middle-east, (aka disrupting the Muslims) but that's another can of worms.)
Yeah he claims that people are thinking with feelings instead of looking at the facts. Meanwhile, the facts show Israel has killed many more Palestinians than vice versa. There is an obvious oppressor and the oppressed relationship going on.
@@derpaherp8981 Right, when even PhD Historians dont agree about the conflict that goes on since 1937 that isn´t as difficult as you think :D :D Sorry Hasan is insanly uneducated about the topic and Asmon ,while i think he informs himself more unbiased than Hasan, just doesn´t have the interest to get properly informed about the topic.
@@derpaherp8981 there's a lot of context needed into this conflict, which most people don't have including me, I don't know fully the extent of the conflict but what I do know is, Israel was built after colonial powers bulldozed thousands of houses and illegally occupied rhe land, now it's too late to reclaim the land however, Israel for the past decades has been restricted trade in Gaza but blocking it's port, only 25% of arabs are eligible for voting in Israel (25% of LEGAL voting age) and israelis are discouraged from inter racial marriage otherwise they'd lose some part of their citizenship. It's apartheid, it's stupid to assume that Palestinians will sit down and take it, of course they'll retaliate violently and sometimes sometimes u unjustifiable
@RyuKyu.77 but do you know why Israel restricted trade because as we have seen hames were able to get weapons from country like iran russia etc etc and the marriage thing that could be for maney Reasons who knows.
Media can be used to influence many illiterate people who don't fact check. If Americans knew ANYTHING about their own history, the amount of carnage, destruction, de@th, theft and instability the US has directly caused would cause everyone to turn against their own government. The US does nothing more than gaslight and now the world has woken up to their abuse. No more. This is the turning point.
The modern discourse could be the result of an overcorrection if you think about it. America's Xenophobia was bad to the point where many people were negatively affected. Simply speaking Arabic would trigger many American's fight for flight responses due to what Bid Laden did back in 2001. However now, it seems like most people are under the assumptions that anything and everything America does is evil and Israel are the true villains of the story. Funny how things have changed in only a single generation.
I really disagree that they yell over each other because of social media or how they are viewed as debate opponents. Honestly that's a shallow way to look at it; I think it is simply that they are too passionate about what they are defending and they carry heavy hate for one another's ideologies..
No point debating with anyone if they can't, even for a second, entertain the concept they may be wrong or admit fault. This conflict will never end, outside one side being completely wiped off the face of the earth by the other. Humanity. lol.
A conflict implies two more or less equal sides. Israel has been slowly getting rid of the Palestinians for decades and when you were pointing that out you were wrong while Israel continues doing that. Now it has reached new heights and even now youre still wrong because Hamas fought back which apparently justifies wiping them out fast but youre still not allowed to say that.
what's the point of a non disruptive protest? the whole issue is that noone is lifting a finger to save innocent children from being genocided. To assume they should protest quietly in a corner so they can be easily forgotten about is absurd.
I think being justifiable or not highly depends on which side wins. For example, if US didn't win the world war 2 after bombing Japan, the bombing would have been the evilest thing in the human history. The same goes for Palestine-Israel, until the winner is decided, we can't really know which side is more justifiable.
That was on both sides. Regions with loyalists tarred and feathered patriots and vice versa. It also wasn’t encouraged ( to my knowledge ) by either government.
As far as land invasions go, the British sympathizers on mainland America (the colonies) were equally as agressive once the war kicked off. Don't pretend they were just sitting there while the colonies rebelled against their king. It was mutual violence, Britain wanted control, the colonies wanted independence from that control.
It was also a way more sympathetic cause, as the people were protesting new laws introduced that negatively affected their own livelihoods. His take of "it you're breaking the law you're in the wrong" is generally understandable and applicable, but not absolute. What would you do then if for example a new law takes away your right to protest, even non-disruptively?
Terrorism in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.[1] The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel). (For terror groups, no need to get confused or mix things up)
54:50 Asmongold’s dismissal of report of genocide from the international community, after saying you aren’t seeing it from other “perspectives” at 51:40.
@@Blackounay77 Explain to the international body how they are wrong classifying the conflict as a “potential” genocide on the Palestinian people and the area now is looked as humanitarian crisis by all.
@@TuveanYGloir Rwanda was a genocide. 800,00 Tutsi's 75% of their population. Dead. The armenian genocide by the OTTOMAN EMPIRE which is the country that originally controlled the Palestine region prior to the end of world war I killed 90% of the Armenians in Anatolia. 'In January 1915 Enver Paşa attempted to push back the Russians at the battle of Sarıkamış, only to suffer the worst Ottoman defeat of the war. Although poor generalship and harsh conditions were the main reasons for the loss, the Young Turk government sought to shift the blame to Armenian treachery. Armenian soldiers and other non-Muslims in the army were demobilized and transferred into labour battalions. The disarmed Armenian soldiers were then systematically murdered by Ottoman troops, the first victims of what would become genocide. About the same time, irregular forces began to carry out mass killings in Armenian villages near the Russian border.' These Armenians were the Ottoman's own citizen subjects. Also, well... 6 million out of 9.5 millions jews. The 'International body' is biased as hell and anyone who thinks 35,000 deaths in 6 months or so out of a multi-million population crushed into an area the size of Philadelphia is completely idiotic. If Israel wanted genocide, an indiscriminate bombardment on day one would easy match those numbers, and by now the place would be a parking lot. Sure, we'd be butt crack deep in the throes of world war III, and there's probably a LOT of anti-palestinian sentiment, but that doesn't make it genocide. For that matter America killed many times that amount in the course of the 43 day desert storm war. No mention of genocide at all.
I wonder if Asmon would be condeming the civil rights movement, and south african apartheid movements because they disrupted campuses and caused violence.
NVM he just admitted if they blocked traffic he would vote against any cause. He would have been against the American civil rights movement. Kind of a hugely racist thing to say and do
@@iplaylol25 I believe his point in saying that was along the lines of if you are and asshole and alienate potential allies they will in spite be against your cause.
@@BlackandBrews MLK famously condemned and called out the "white moderate", those who didn't bother to fight for civil rights. He also blocked roads, public transport and did sit ins. Do you spite MLK? Do you condemn the civil rights movement for vilifying the "white moderate"
@@iplaylol25 I think inaction is evil to an extent for sure. No I don't spite MLK. I do have to say though we gotta look at society as a whole at the moment, we have become selfish a people. Nowadays it is "what benefits me?" Not "What benefits my community and family". People have different priorities and wants. Just because someone doesn't go out of their way for your cause however isn't inherently evil. Too many people, too many conflicts. Too many causes to carry the flag for when times are tough, money is tight, influence and support is sold to the highest bidder. You gotta take your victories where you can get them. So I can't really fault anyone for not giving a shit about another countries problems when they are worried if they can make rent or not.
Technically anything that contradicts our laws and morals is unjustified. But when morals and laws contradict each other and without adequate law changes, violence is inevitable.
Sorry Asmon, you are assuming and the arrogance on some topics is insane. Billions of people have existed and yet you think you have it figured out. I’m sorry but your view is also your OPINION.
He'd point out that all we have is opinions. "Opinion" isn't a mark of quality or accuracy. His opinions just happen to be shitty on a bunch of topics, especially matters of human rights and social justice. Shouldn't be surprising. He's functionally indistinguishable from a well-adapted sociopath.
The same knee that killed George Floyd is the same knee that is killing protestors. Videos of many student who shared their experiences said that the police put their knee on their neck…
he said pretty much most of the things out of arrogance and ignorance. Bring him online and ask him does he know enough about the atrocities committed by Israel and the expansion of Israel since its inception. He has no clue because he clearly demonstrated it.
28:39 hamas is a recognised terrier organization in pretty much all of western world since forever. Even other Arab countries banned them or palestinian "refugees" to enter. Queue Egypt being reluctant to open boarders back in autumn
yeah because they went ahead and caused MAJOR issues for their hosts when they did take them as refugees. jordan had an assasination attempt happen on the king by palastinians as a matter of fact.
Mate thats because Egypt is a puppet state of thr U.S. the overthrew thr democratically elected government and put in Cici whos the son of a Zionist. So the will of the people isnt represented by the people with power
Say that it's bad optics all you want but the reason it's hard to spend too much time condemning Hamas is that the pro Israeli strategy is all attack all the time to the point of throwing out talking points and running away before they can be pinned down taking some moral high ground. It's not fruitful to sit on a defensive pro Palestine strategy, one lady tried that in this debate to limited success. Condemnations would make a lot more sense if the other side would take a second to condemn the actions or their leaders on their end also but that's the opposite of what's happening, why should only one side be asked to condemn violence
Because when someone is systematically annihilating you, you fight back. Native Americans weren't the savages, for example. Yes, they scalped people. Gee...they did? Oh no. They're terrorists. No, they were the victims. Ethnostates should NOT exist.
The same knee that killed George Floyd is the same knee that is killing protestors. Videos of many student who shared their experiences said that the police put their knee on their neck…
fact if he were a victim of a genocide he would want people to protest for him too. he is acting like it's a everyday problem. we are talking about a genocide here.
@@thunderlord5434 Under 5000 people in gaza/israel have died since February , the conflict is clearly coming to a close now that most of Hamas is dead, If Israel keeps going after clearing Rafa then I'll consider it a potential Genocide but so far it seems like they're just trying to achieve their justifiable military aims, according to Hamas' numbers last I check 8,000 of the 38,000 deaths were Hamas militants, that means that 1.5% of the civilian population has died while 3/4ths of Hamas combatants have died, This again makes it clear to me that Israel isn't trying to target civilians, at least not from top down. That being said, on an emotional level this conflict makes me feel horrible the idea of innocent civilians dying, fleeing their homes and waking up not knowing if they'll die that day is truly tragic, my emotional side and my logical side are at war with this conflict.
Asmongold love you dude but I would stay away from politics. Eventually they will say you are either right or left and be alienated from alot of viewers then youll be stuck taking those stances!
@@highlordlaughterofcanada8685 Probably not but when it comes to politics people are extremely opinionated and one wrong mistake and they ostracize you for it. I like the gaming videos tbh or drama ones more. Politics are just messy
I think it’s geographically cursed. Either occupied by one empire or another or torn apart by internal squabble. Should probably be a nature reserve for the world that doesn’t belong to any one nation, sort of like Antarctica.
The same knee that killed George Floyd is the same knee that is killing protestors. Videos of many student who shared their experiences said that the police put their knee on their neck…
Hassan was right to call the Hamas condemnation masturbatory. This was what, 6-7 months after October 7th? We were 30-40k dead and a decimated Gaza at this point, but any time anyone talks about the ongoing situation it's always "But why didn't you condemn Hamas just now?". Piers had Hasan on back on October. Piers was already grappling with "proportional response" at the time. He knows Hasan's position. Piers agreed at the time that Gaza was an open air prison.
24:00 Destiny is stupid though. He knows almost nothing about the Israel-Palestine conflict and thought he could debate people who are among the most acclaimed scholars of that region. He learned the subject in 2 weeks and was talking to people who spent decades writing books and researching the subject. 34:00 Also, just about every major protest inconvenienced civilian life - from the American Revolution to the Civil Rights movement. That is the reality and the reason why people do it is because it's effective. People only start paying attention once it starts affect their life. And Conservatives have done this too, so I don't know what you're talking about? 54:00 If international organizations all say this is a genocide, then it's a genocide. It doesn't matter what some rando's perspective is at that point because we're past the point of conversation. Are we gonna have conversations about if Nazi's also felt like they were being genocided? Conversations like this go nowhere. Actions are what are needed. And going on debate panels with Piers Morgan and literal Israeli-paid propagandists to try to have a cordial discussion does absolutely nothing for the cause. People are dying in massive numbers. Talk time is over. 58:00 You're wrong. Israeli's overwhelmingly blamed Netanyahu for the Hamas' attacks and the escalation that followed. Two-thirds of Israeli's want a ceasefire with Hamas, which Netanyahu and his administration refuse to do.
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Piers is farming political clowns like no one has done before. It's impressive.
Yeah i can say the exact same thing about hasan dude
Piers is also a political clown.
@lycanthoss honestly, they all are at this point. The world is just a bunch of clowns at this point
@@jamesskinner5625 Why are you complaining that a clown is being a clown while still going to the circus?
@@jamesskinner5625 Hasan was the clown that was farmed though.
I'm 10 minutes in and i can't believe this is real life. This looks like something you'd see on adult swim
Not even fever dreams compare to this outlandish behavior.i don't believe this.
I woulda thought this was too much for Chapelle Show or SNL. No way this real
it's like a modern day SNL skit
Some shit you’d see on robot chicken 😂😂
Was CHB cut out of the video? I don't see it in there anymore
They just need to have a big red mute button when someone starts interrupting mute the individual and when the original speakers done their point unmute
Should also put a speaker with elevator music playing towards the one who interrupts that only they can hear while muted to the audience
Tbf, the reason they invite volatile people, is for them to start cat fights, aka content.
They get more views if it's a clown show. These podcasts are not organized to solve the Israel - Palestine problem. Even if they wanted to, they can't. Everyone involved in the discussions has virtually 0 power to change anything
That sounds reasonable and a way to encourage useful discourse. This is a show for entertainment and the arguments generate more views and thus ad dollars. But I agree with you.
@@Gennosuke1983 Yep most people won't admit they watch piers for entertainment.
They should invent turn based combat on these shows
All eyes on Rafah
And make it like "Oh...Sir!"
okay that's pretty funny
Buckle in boys
I’m making popcorn
I buy The butter
🤲🥺
@@butter5144consider yourself bought
I have the theater popcorn machine
Can I get some with salt and pepper
We’re living the longest South Park episode ever.
idiocracy
aren't the fireworks pretty? the world is such a beautiful place right now.
Let me finish (in Canadian)😂😂😂
Hey buddy ( in Canadian)
@@jarredbarnes3332 Not your buddy, guy (in Canadian)
man what a time to be alive. ppl used to hate being seen as ridiculous on the internet now they are striving to do that. they see it as an achievement if they make a fool of themselves and post it on the internet.
Only The Emperor to save us now My lord Dorn
Yeah whatever happened to that? What changed?
The reason why they are so open and willing to do it is because the people around them are so soft that they don't hold these crazy people accountable
It is an achievement as long as Coke ads play before during and after the video. Cha-ching
you got one life, just do the most ridiculous shit you can do so you can be immortalized and define a generation
The fact that Asmon keeps saying that there's no evidence is so frustrating, if he has no knowledge on the subject he should just not give his opinion
I bet his reddit post it 5000 times and ask him to react
The "genocide" that everyone keeps referring to is Hamas digging the graves and dumping the bodies then filming it claiming its a mass grave. How about America stays out of it and fix American issues
People are selective in the evidence they choose to use. Plenty exists to back Israel that's simply scoffed at, despite legitimacy, meanwhile the same people lap up Hamas propaganda without thought.
if anyone would follow this advice 99% of the polotics discussions wouldn't exist, and that would be no fun at all
@@achmahnsch it's why is so frustrating when you debate. you can take the time to look things up get a bigger picture follow an issue for years. Yet most of the time anything you post no matter how fact check with historic back up going to get called lies and you labeled something absurd so the other side can just defect and dismiss. More so with an issue like the israel palestine conflict where emotions run high. Doesn't help the real truth is neither side is innocent neither side has a moral leg to stand on. This just makes it worse as both side try to claim the moral high ground when neither have it.
Piers Morgan aka The "Mediator" needs priority speech or mute button, so he can be in-charge to let people take turns talking. Instead of this incessive rambling over each other.
The problem is that this makes for better tv, so they won't. They want people to look foolish and angry because the postmenopausal woman who watch the show eat it up.
this is precisely what he wants don't be silly. There are plenty of places for real debate and discourse and you probably don't visit those places but here you are lol
Omg it would be so damn funny if Piers could just hit a button that mutes everyone else and then quietly explain that he will hold down that button untill everyone stopped talking.
They're not debating. They're entertaining. Piers is a clown BY DESIGN running a clown show BY DESIGN
Piers Morgan's editor took out a peace call for the Israel/ Palestine conflict when Hasan Piker was talking about it at minute 28:13. I wonder what he said.
This is some shit you'd see on gta when stopping to watch some of the in game TV 😂
That is extremely on point
This 1000 times. Its like listening to the nonsense on the radio in gta. Fernando Martinez lmao
Art imitates life.
Do you remember that 5 minute or so scene in very beginning of metal gear solid 4 when you could watch a bunch of dystopian looking tv channels?
@@emne5750 yeah or vice versa, especially in the time of social media its often also the other way around. People thinking what they see online as what they should strive to be. Not really ‘art’ but you probably understand where I’m comming from.
The black lady. Holy Based. She has brain and sympathy for the victim.
Yeah Esther Krakue is great!
bro for a second I thought u meant the crackhead cuz I wasn't far enough in and saw that u had 89 likes... literally jaw dropped.
yeah if it was up to here the war would go on for AGES
Idk man. For what sympathy good for? "Oh no, war is bad, deaths is bad on all size". No shit. But what's we gonna actually do?
When she was talking about mentally unstable people, she really should have been looking or pointing to the two on her right. 😂
Do you know it’s really funny the more I watch people do these pseudo debates the more I realize that none of these people have ever debated anything or anyone. It is so easy to listen to what somebody is saying write down points you disagree with and then reply after they’re finished speaking.
No one does debate like that anymore. Face to face discussions have been just shouting at each others faces for the past 10 years.
lmao what? i literally never saw a debate on TV that goes like what you are describing
They either talk over each other or lose brand value.
was thinking the same thing. Tackle each point and you can factually destroy it.
@@aweave24 Is this your first time on the internet? Use common sense and logic to argue on the internet?
Pierce needs a mute button for the people.
With sound effects! Scratch em in and out like a DJ! (EERA-ERA, no).
Or team up with nintendo. Pipe sounds for mute, mushroom for unmute. Classic level start sound before each topic, coin sounds for things peirce agrees with! The goalie whistle (death sound) reserved for breaking up arguments. All OG supermario sounds.
Cain?
He need a honk Button to make then stop
He wants the yelling, so he can then spend five minutes admonishing them and then upload it as a clip to his youtube channel.
@@SuzakuX he usually uploads interesting and entertaining conversations
I'm turning 32 next month. I haven't been to church in 12-13 years.
10 minutes into this..... I think I'm going back
Sounds like a coping mechanism to me
Welcome back, brother. There are no crack heads in Heaven.
@stirringlemur
Idk man evil is real so if evil is real then there must be the opposite equivalent of that which is good. There can be no heaven without hell and vice and versa.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 this is the first thing in my existence as a human to question my own belief (atheism) i feel like ive only seen evil in the world, and not heaven. But if this is the case, where is the heaven you are referring to?
@@rippy4323 losing the battle to evil. If you read the bible as well as the texts of pretty much any other ancient religion you will see they all revolve around the eternal struggle of positive and negative energies that permeate the fabric of space time. basically the entire universe.
when the Onion actually predicted all the stupidity
Onion was the real news all along naow my gawd
@@billylion3073 We thought they did satire but little did we know they had a time machine all along.
@@Pharozos time like onions has many layers shrek tried to warn us
Wdym, Asmon isn't reacting to an Onion news skit from 2010?
@@GlassesnMouthplates 🤣
it didn't start on October 7:
▪Haifa massacre - March 6, 1937
▪Jerusalem massacre - Dec 6, 1937
▪Haifa massacre - March 27, 1938
▪Haifa massacre - July 6, 1938
▪Jerusalem massacre - July 13, 1938
▪Jerusalem massacre - July 15, 1938
▪Haifa massacre - July 25, 1938
▪Jerusalem massacre - July 26, 1938
▪Balad al-Sheikh massacre - June 12, 1939
▪Haifa massacre - June 19, 1939
▪Haifa massacre - June 20, 1947
▪Jaffa massacre - Dec 12, 1947
▪Abbasiya massacre - Dec 13, 1947
▪Al-Khasas massacre - Dec 18, 1947
▪Bab al-Amud massacre - Dec 29,
1947
▪Jerusalem massacre - Dec 30,
1947
▪Balad al-Sheikh massacre - Dec 31, 1947
▪Deir Yassin massacre - April 9, 1948
▪Abu Shusha village massacre - May 9, 1948
▪Tantura massacre - May 22, 1948
▪Lydda massacre - July 1948
▪Qibya massacre - Oct 14, 1953
▪Al-Dawayima massacre - Oct 29, 1948
▪Kafr Qasem massacre - Oct 29, 1956
▪Khan Yunis massacre - Nov 3, 1956
▪Rafah massacre - Nov 12, 1956
▪Abu Zaabal factory bombing - Feb 13, 1970
▪Sabra and Shatila massacre - Sept 16, 1982
▪Al-Aqsa Mosque massacre - Oct 8, 1990
▪lbrahimi Mosque massacre - Feb 25, 1994
▪Qana massacre - April 18, 1996
▪Jenin massacre - April 3, 2002
▪Qana massacre - July 30, 2006
▪Gaza Strip massacre - August 5, 2022
▪Jenin massacre - January 26, 2023
▪Jenin massacre - July 3, 2023
learn about history before trying to give your opinion on this conflict, if some idf people came to your country slaughtering your friends and family, raping your daughters and sisters and mothers for years, stealing your lands, your houses and treating you like an animal for over 75 years till this day, and when you fight back you'd be called a terrorist? yes what happened in october the seventh was bad, but look at this list and see how many Palestinians were killed maybe your dead rotten brain will get some cells working on
Yo chief this aint enough, you skipped from 2006 to 2023, a lot more has happened between those too, especially the peacful protest called the great march of return in 2018
There’s like almost 20 years missing from this
Yup, I don't think he should comment about politics since he knows very little.
The most one sided history lmao, acc crazy. The Palestinian side aren’t so innocent either
@@koo1770 i dont think the OP's point is to represent the entire history between them.
Yes Palestinians also did stuff back, fought back, retaliated, killed civilians, launched rockets, did bombings, I dont think anyone here disagrees.
The comment wasnt made to say "look theyve done so much to us and we didnt do anything back", it was more so that "look this has been happening for so long, you cant say it was done because terrorists felt like being terrorists on that day"
Nevertheless asymmetry is very apparent.
If you're reading this, my advice to you is to go watch a funny cat video or something instead of reading these comments further so you don't lose your mind over the all the keyboard experts in here. Its not worth the headaches.
Exactly lmao....both Israel and hamas are terrible...choosing either side will end up making u look shit
Thanks bro for the heads up, ima go watch some cats be cats
Comments seem pretty good to me. They either were bad at the time you posted this or you’re one of the crazy people they’re making fun of.
the comments are a bunch of nothing burgers anyway, "we're so cooked" "can't believe this is real" but barely any real discussions or arguments lmao
as of now the comments aren't that bad, maybe when i keep scrolling i'll find some bad ones?
Idiocracy is an intellectual version of where we are headed. Holy shit
Except in idiocracy they put the smartest guy on the planet in a leading role. When was the last time we did that?
@@NostraDavid2the fact that you think you can put one persons to rule the world is insane 😂😂
that move was the truest move ever made.
@aloblanko he doesn't think that or even suggest that. All he said was that we don't elect smart people. And he's right, because the majority of us aren't smart enough to do so
@@aloblankobecause ig that's how Idiocracy work
I hate things like this. They aren’t there to listen to each other, they’re there to spew their position at each other. Have a legitimate conversation.
I mean even when debates are conducted more professionally, rarely if ever does either side just go "Oh that's a good point that debunks my argument entirely."
So IMO sometimes watching a bunch of clowns fling shit at each other is more enjoyable than a bunch of debate bros acting like they're not just doing a fancier version of that.
@@kungfuvoodoo9889While I agree with your point. The decorum of an actual conversation lets spectators listen to both viewpoints clearly. Without things getting lost in an ocean of stupidity.
It's mostly piers, he should be moderating, but isn't, basically.
@litrpg101 True, he could have done a way better Job but let them talk over eachother multiple times..
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Legitimate conversation died when trump got elected
Like dude she she talked over him twice and still remained quiet it wasn't until the thrid time where it was clear that she wasn't going to let him finsh answering a single question that he then interrupted her after she had just interrupted him.
Still can't believe the pink hair guy is still classed as a "comedian" 😂
His life IS The Joke, and shit one at that
@@samfire3067 I'm confused what does he know about the conflict, send him to the west bank see how long he survives
wait wut, i thought they just brought a gay guy on to look diverse or some shit
That truly is one of the mysteries of this world, if he is a comedian I am a comedian heck we are all comedians.
Another woke that weaseled his way into society .
You made a good point at 28:50 at who decides terror groups. Nelson Mandela was labeled as a terrorist despite most people agreeing now that he is a hero and good person for going against apartheid in South Africa.
Also, I feel like the points you made about the hostages being political tools are correct but it doesn't correlate with the point Hasan was making towards her. Obviously, Hamas is using them as a political tool. He meant that she is using them as a political tool for herself to become successful. Just not sure if you got that based on your comments.
@@thatpandaz6094 "nothing comes from peaceful protest".
Maybe you need a history book.
Most things came from peaceful protests. It was violence that threatened the success of the protests.
Well I get your point but his party was definitely commiting attacks that one can easily say were terror attacks. Blowing up buses etc.
He was definitely a terrorist though, and not a good person at all. Nelson and the ANC's history is a bloody one, just ask the Zulus.
It always depends on one's opinion on the idea of "means to an end", what you might think is justified or not simply represents the extent of an immoral action to which you are willing to accept that the result was better than the means by which it was taken.
E.g. Take the bombing of Hiroshima, some might say it was an unjustified action, whilst still admitting that ending WW2 was also potentially for the greater good. Now, for others, they may deem the ending of WW2 as more important, it's just a different approach to how you accept means to an end.
16:05 gonna have to disagree, you dont aim a gun at anyone no matter what. always assume the gun is loaded even when its not, plenty of irresponsible gun owners assumed their guns are unloaded and accidentally hurt themselves, hurt someone, killed someone or offed themselves. this is something gun safety courses are taught, but for some reason people forget this lesson.
I'm from the uk and even i know that's the first rule of gun handling safety, 1st rule always assume a gun is loaded even when you know it's not, 2nd rule never point the gun at anything u dont intend to destroy.
My dad had a coworker who brought his shotgun at work (70s, midnight shift) to show him. He played aimed it at my dad and my dad wouldn't have it, told him off and was incessant. Dude finally relented. Later thst night it was aimed towards the ceiling and he somehow got his fingers on the trigger.
Blew a hole in the ceiling. All that time he thought it wasn't loaded, and he intended to "shoot" my dad thinking it was a joke and not loaded.
Doesn't matter if you know it or not. You could have a clear plastic gun and see for a fact no bullet is loaded in it. It's always loaded, always.
@@alexanderthered5603Bro 💀 don’t act like a genius here
@@mybirdsareangry1 Genius? In what way?
This is a rare L take by Asmongold. He literally has no idea what he’s talking about.
True, he's excellent at a tremendous point of view but sometimes when you dont know just say you dont know
He takes L all the time he even cherry picked 1 protestor and made whole ass video about them 😂
He riding the fence
you automatically take an L sharing your opinion on the internet, like you just did
OMG thankyou... I'm confused. Wtf is he even saying?!😅
Jesus Christ save us
I'm not religious, but i do i agree.
there is no such thing as a god, only you can be the savior of yourself
@@MrAkorazado taking a look around at humanity, i sure do hope there's something better than us out there. gonna be truly sad if it's just us
And by Jesus I mean a giant Final Fantasy 7 Meteor
@@jackalope_hunter There is plenty of good with us however something better than us being out there would be nice.
Piers loves this style. He knows it'll give him the views. He'd have a mute button for the guests if he really cared.
Yeah, Piers like to have insane people fighting for attention.
thing is its his voice i cant stand the most lol.
censorship is good
and it's the best way to censor the story while showing it to the world
Bro, i didnt think the Dave Chappelle Show was back!
lmao imagin if Dave came back with his show.
Dave Chappelle is Muslim and is extremely pro-Palestine.
"Palestine isn't special."
-asmongold, 2024
It really isn't, what special is how much attention it has gotten
Which is true, Palestine is not world's problem lol.
@@Vibe_Master_007 Spoken like a sleepy baby who just learned the word. Palestine is pretty unique in its link to the establishment of modern human rights laws, including the Geneva Conventions. On the practical side of things, Israel is uniquely entangled in US foreign policy - something non-babies can detect without much trouble. So whenever the US govt makes a foreign policy decision that could impact the status of Israel in the region, that policy decision is heavily shaped by that relationship. Those decisions (which extend to Pentagon budget planning) then have a ripple effect on a whole bunch of other relationships. Guess what's at the center of it all: Palestine. But don't worry, there's still time to get educated about how the human world works.
How is it special? Want a cookie 🍪
he was talking about its protest issue.
your doze of cope after him calling out your position throughout the video lol
59:30 this entire video has been pretty reasonable but comparing the 70 year conflict between Israel and Palestine to 9/11 is dangerous oversimplifying of the relationship.
I think you can‘t compare any other conflict to the Israel-Palestine one
It sounds reasonable, but it isn't. I don't think it's reasonable at all to give the Israeli perspective equal weight to the palestinian perspective when one side is committing an active genocide against another.
@@David-uc4hc Hamas committed a genocide on October 7th with explicit targeting of civilians. Israel isn’t targeting civilians and pretty clearly discriminating towards combatants after having the largest civilian massacre against Jews since the Holocaust against them along with sexual violence, including gang rape and genital mutilation, and hostage taking-which massively weakens the genocide as opposed to it being a war.
@@meltedsnowman9637 everything you stated as already been debunked as lies by the Israeli propaganda machine. But go on, tell me more about the moral army that is the IDF.
@@meltedsnowman9637 Israel lost 1200 people. Gaza lost 30,000+ people. Israel's population is 9.5 million. Gaza 2 million. You are literally saying that Jewish lives are more important than Gazans. This is a genocide.
That is why you control the volume of people's mic as a show runner, so the viewers can only hear one or the other depending who it is time to talk, you could even add a mic off symbol on the screen
I think it's just that piers respects free speech and thinks even if that would make production quality better it would undercut the guests free speech.
@@jackwaters7775 Well, people screaming is still content
@@Solizeus lol fair enough
@@Solizeusits good entertainment, their viewership probably had good retention rate during that trash fire
Not specific to politics, drama is interesting to most people
Aside from Piers debate speech thing not muting or lowering volume
Just want to let Asmon know don’t be too shocked at classes ending before the end of the semester. It’s late April. The end of the semester is basically now. Finals are about to start
Don't forget your pencils I guess
In more ways than one.
Why the fuck is Asmon doing politics now? If i wanted to watch someone with no clue what they're talking about talk politics id watch senators press conferences lol
He’s been doing politics since 2014, you just haven’t been around long enough
Not this badly.
Or watch Hassan. He also has no clue what he's talking about 😂
Who got the clue then? Gods chosen people lol?@@Lenexa1
@@Lenexa1 Of course, the guy who’s been covering Gaza for years doesn’t know anything. Interesting
This why you have a mute for people who wont shut up
Check out the black mirror episode where u can mute and cancel people in reality. Soon we’ll be able to do that
We had a mute button back in the day.. was called the jab straight combo.
shoulda muted zach.... out of everything ive heard from his commentaries which i usually enjoy.. this is the worst by far
Asmon worried about being blocked on the road when he never leaves his house 😂
How he gonna get his Wendy's if he can't leave the house? Or his 2$ steak/pizza.
@@SEIBALTER ever heard of doordash?
@the19kings so Doordashe employees can fly? You think asmon would be the only one blocked in the road? lmao
well, you can put a fully built on a house on semi-trailer these days.
@@SEIBALTERone way road block
We are cooked.
this is beyond cooked into dangerously deep fried territory
The world is being drowned by liberals
we're fucking toast & I have 0 survival skills
don't kid yourself, this is incineration
Nah, we're doing just fine & dandy 👌🏻
Protest are meant to be a peaceful way to get your message across, it becomes a riot once violence and crimes ensue. These are mostly rioters overshadowing the people who are actually trying to make a change the right way.
Amen!
What riots are you talking about? There hasn't been violence in the protests happening.
@@sadisticwinter8354 Doesn't have to be violent to be a crime. Blocking roadways, defacing property, and trespassing are still illegal.
@@kirid5773the commenter that this person is responding to explicitly said “rioters”
@@kirid5773 An unlawful assembly is also considered a crime too. Does that mean that the civil rights protests of the 60s were criminal? No. Speaking out against Israel gets you unjustly punished and is considered a crime as well, i.e the TIkTok ban.
"I like how he waited for her to run out of stamina"
"huh, always wondered why people never use their strongest attack first."
Hehehehhehehehe
I usually agree with Asmon's takes, but I feel like there's important nuance missing here. The ruling class are the ones making the rules and they always will be. If these rules happen to be unjust, or contradictory, or hypocritical, then the people living under those rules should be able to let it be known, and some level of discomfort or annoyance is most likely required to start that conversation. Yes, the people breaking rules are committing crimes. However, if they didn't, the ruling class would simply ignore their criticisms to keep living in the world they crafted for themselves. Talking about it would definitely be the best solution, but politicians have ignored the will of the people for years in favor of industry money, on both sides of the aisle.
Their critism is ignored anyway and their political enemies weaponise the footage of their violent behaviour, the moment you start breaking stuff, you're written off by everyone whose life you damaged.
The ruling class changes based on who is voted in, multiple countries have pretty significantly changing governments in recent times. We in Poland just did that, the party at the top sucked so hard that their grip on the country cracked. Why? Because people voted and with no need to riot and attack each other
you support october 7th?
@@GoRamz No, I support peaceful protests, even if they might inconvenience some people. Obviously I don't support violence and retaliation, my comment made no mention of it.
@laogon09 "The voice of the unheard" is still wrong. If that's how you get the ruling class to listen, then you don't deserve to be listened to in the first place. Either get better arguments or reassess your worldview, because its not convincing enough. Shit, or get off the pot.
@@laogon09 oh i was actually asking i thought that is what you meant when you said about people letting it be known and there being discomfort
Whoever said "I can fix her" is nasty as hell lol.
But admittedly funny as hell.
1:16:19 that's an insane thing to say when a genocide is currently being live streamed in front of out own eyes.
Yea and yet the asmon glazers keep defending him smh
Go to Palestine and do something about it. Crying in the US/on the internet does what exactly? People went and volunteered in Ukraine, Iraq and Syria (when ISIS was big).
Why should I care? Please explain. I'm assuming you're probably some atheist liberal so why would I waste evolutionary energy on stopping might makes right? If you're not some atheist liberal, why are you pushing your religion on me when I have nothing to do with it? Push it on them.
Its not that insane when you realize there isn't actually a genocide, not according to international law and the summary judgment by the ICJ.
@@cn9707the US is the one supplying the weapons, taking action here is much more effective
This is like Tyrone Biggums vs Yasser Arafat
peanut butter and crack sammich
and Beetlejuice waiting to chime in …
I can't find CHB in the video anymore? Was it cut out?
This was the best comment came so outta left field but so right 🤣
BEET WHATS 2+1? Ughh 7!
What the actual F?.... There's no way.... this some alternate timeline shit....
I literally can’t figure out what’s happening, like I don’t understand
Lololol right?
The video got edited.
@@TitanTeck in what way?
@@Rellikan the first like 10 minutes were edited out which was the crackhead barny
classes cancelled until the end of the semester isnt as insane as it sounds because theres literally only 2 weeks left until the end of the semester so its not much
for some it ends with the end of april so that is 4 days away when this was uploaded so yeah, ethnic cleansing, murdering millions vs closing a few schools for less then a week or two, when the semester is already almost over anyway, is a very fucked up comparison
Were the students ever in charge of keeping the school open in the first place?
Pretty sure that's up to the school board and the principal.
Any amount of classes cancelled is fucking absurd man....
@@WhyFacetattoos What's absurd is a higher death count per day ratio than WW2 with 70-80% of all victims being kids and women
,,Those are hamas numbers" yea, which have been historically correct and even quoted by Israel themselves
School doesnt matter when literal lives are on the line
@@WhyFacetattoosin person classes weren’t really canceled, they were moved to online. This wasn’t done due to danger, it was to minimize the people joining the protests because people kept joining after they had the first few students arrested when they didn’t do anything wrong in the first place
Bro, not even 30 yet (got a few months) and I still act more civil in debates then everyone here. Actual children.
It depends for the protest thing. In Paris, people were mad at Extinction rebellion when they blocked roads because it didn't have a clear impact on solving the climate crisis but people were generally not mad when farmers were blocking the roads because there is an understanding that even if they are making our lives worse now, they are important and the government will react to a huge blockade.
As far as Asmon talking about what happened during the American revolution, he speaks as though all of "America" was America at the time of revolt...we didnt have to go to England to kill innocent British people. They were in America...which was a British colony at the time. I dont understand how he doesnt see that...
Like the American situation is almost a perfect allegory for the Palestine israel conflict, or the Russia Ukraine conflict. England was the Russia of that time, the isreal of that time. And America was the Ukraine, the palestine in their respective conflicts.
I love asmon but if you listen to him no problem will be solved and if you dont care about an issue i dont need to here your opinion about it
America defended itself when britain sent an army. They did not went to britain to commit terrorism
the guy in an entertainer. his option is worth as much as that of the average comment section gremlin.
Assmongold the white moderate is more devoted to "order" than to justice and prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
You learn that crazy isn’t isolated to one side, it’s almost eye opening why tragedies happen watching these two interact
I think the people supporting terrorists are quite a bit more delusional.
The primary issue is that nearly EVERYONE makes things personal.
Take free speech, for example. The right and left literally swapped opinions because leaders on each side also changed their opinions 🤣
I disagree with Asmon’s moderate liberal opinions, but the guy does one thing most people can’t do and I respect that. He has ideas and they’re his. He gives zero fucks what people agree with him or not.
@@brendandrummond1739 Supporting a populous of genocidal nazis is also quite a bit more delusional my guy.
@@brendandrummond1739 I think people supporting a genocide are more delusional than terrorists who wouldn't exist if the Palestinians had just been given a small slice of dignity by the international community. Imagine if the illegal immigrants people are always on about said that America belonged to them, started renaming cities and then eventually overthrew the government and renamed the entire nation and subjugated all the Americans that were already living in America.
@@brendandrummond1739 Do you really think the reason for all this is to defend hamas? Or to defend the innocent people who are suffering from all this bullshit..?
"If its disruptive its a crime" Asmongold sometimes doesnt know what hes talking about either lmao
Exactly. Even if it was always a crime, that's a naive stance to take (Well A=B so there!) that you can only make from the safety of a computer desk. Asmond likes to pontificate consistently about being realistic... and that he doesn't care about 'the law' only 'what's right'... but only when it agrees with his world view.
A protest is going to be disruptive... or else you shouldn't even bother with the protest. Protesting from the sidelines against the consumption of Demon Beef while McDonalds sells demon beef, as people walk in and out of the McDonalds freely to purchase demon beef, and McDonalds continues to make billions of dollars on demon beef... means every protestor there is just wasting hours of their lives.
he is such a normie clown
Yeah - some of this makes me go ???? Really, Asmon????
When ur cookin in the kitchen ur bound to make a few mistakes
There's lots of laws that prohibit disruptive behavior. Disturbing the peace, being a public nuisance etc
We need Asylums.
And we need A LOT!
Plenty of seekers here in Europe though
And Batman
So we can have powerful people lock up anyone who oppose them and create the same issues
Someone obviously left the Asylums unlocked for few years so here we are.
When people are involved in a dispute for a long time, no one remembers why it started and why it is continuing. You will see this with individuals and nations. The dispute feeds on itself. Feelings replace logic. No one can win.
People really don't realise how much being born in a place that lacks historically based conflicts is a blessing. This is an everyone is fcked situation.
Community Notes on X are making taking someone out of context, more and more difficult, as you will be immediately exposed with the link of the video in context. So this used to work all the time, but now not so much, which is why I absolutely love that feature.
You working for Twitter?
@@t0mahawkj0nes Don't attack the argument, but attack the person instead, typical comments reply when you have nothing of value to add to the conversation.
@@shuriken4852 What argument? I literally am asking if you work there? Maybe you should look at how you attack people or whatever delusions you are having. You literally sound like you work there, so I asked.
@@t0mahawkj0nes The implication is that my comment has to be done because I work at X and I am shilling. How does me working at X relevant or not to the validity of my argument, either it is true or it is not, so if you have a counter argument make it, otherwise my point stands.
asmongold should really stick to gaming
and hasan should stick to twitch
@@jackjames7283 why you typing like i like hassan i think hes dumb
@@vandamq8 maybe
@@vandamq8he should watch europa the last battle
yeahhh... asmongold becomes dumb when it involves politics, particularly this palestine issue
Truly a clown world.
I know, right? I didn't ask to be here. Maybe I should sue my parents for making without my consent 🤔
a circus frfr
There are no winners in war, just losers. And its the innocent people in both of these nations who are feeling the loss... Sad
If only more people could see that.
@@highlordlaughterofcanada8685i think most people in the world see that.. they’re just not the loud ones. It’s why most people support Palestine.. case they don’t want war period.
@@npcimknot958 I know. They're who In talking about when I say more people.
The issue is the dehumanizing of Palestinians which israel has been very clear about. They consider everyone on gaza a terrorist and its disgusting
1. There are winners in war: The strong.
The strong do what they can, while the weak suffer what they must. This is the way of the world. So, if you want peace, you must be prepared for war, to be the strong.
Only then you can choose what you want for yourself, and what to do with those weaker than you.
2. Innocent =/= Weak. Not all innocents are weak, and not all weak people are innocent.
"i'm not doing anything; by the way, you do it too"
contradiction speedrun
Hot take: it doesn't matter what side of a conflict are you on if you're a jerk.
I stand with that
I mean, at this point, both sides are not good in image, the biggest issue is the Terrorists being protected somehow.
But then again, not there to see and speak about what happened and even if I was, most likely I would end up having a bias too
@defalttheloner I disagree, I think that both the extremes of both sides are bad, the more moderate people are much more rational.
@@alfiewilliams2852 bro I wish more people thought this way
lmao so if hitler was polite with his ideologies he would be more in the right than the people who were against him if they were jerks?
Fuck me... Just... This is where we're at then...
Exactly right here, where are feet lie.
nah bro , only gonna get worst from there .
Just enjoy the show at this point. Grab some popcorn.
It's where the panelists are at. We don't have to conform to that.
Dude, it's always been like this
bro i hate listening to these. they talk over each other like children and won't listen to answers, jumps over 15 hoops to make crazy claims about what the other person said, it just feels like they make no progress in their discussions.
I am assuming that's the standard for debates broadcast on TV, internet or whatever media it is, bring a bunch of clowns and let them say what they want
wtf kinda progress are u thinking will come out from a piers show?? xD
the only thing dumber than this program is the people who watch and comment on it like their opinions mattered
At the end of the day, this type of thing gets clicks, and the boring, 4 hour long discussions get no attention
@@charlieleedham5265 only presidential debate i ever watched was the trump biden one where they wouldnt stop talking over eachother lol
I wish they would mute mics when the panelists start yelling over each other
Genius.
but bro there is a difference between believing youre being genocided and actual bombs being dropped on you and your entire family...how can you not see the uneven scale of percpectives whilst making it seem like people cant seem to put themsleves into other people shoes?
4:45 Boss, It's time to turn off the simulation.
honestly bring back insane asylums, even if she's playing some kind of character she's cooked... and im only 5 minutes in.
The fck are you talking about? We already have a digital asylum called Twitter.
Have her and hasan be roommates in there, and in order for them to be released back into polite society they have to come to agreement about this issue lol. I guess that'd probably be a life sentence, but the world would be a better place.
In an age of Information, its amazing to see majority of the population seemed to be less informed than ever.
Not to be rude to you or call you out but a lot of videos and comments have been omitted by platforms such as these. And not just about controversial topics but topics pertaining to the possibility of another dimension or mentioning Quantum Physics to support an alternative theory, or even talking about new technologies and or exposing bad ideas and figures. There are a lot of narratives and teachings that we were taught as kids and have been misleading or just false. So this whole Age of Information idea only works when there is freedom of speech. The truth cannot be suppressed forever so I'm hopeful for the future. I'm a Millennial by the way.
Asmond, your attitude is the reason why disruptive protest are effective. People don't care about an issue unless it affects them directly, so when the people who it does affect get loud enough for everyone else to hear them it's suddenly a bigger issue. If you want the disruption to stop, fix the issue causing people to be disruptive. "That's not how it works" it literally is how it works
it’s literally not how it works all that does is turn potentially sympathetic ears away from even engaging with your side of the issue at all
The whole issue of this conversation was the fact that there was no moderation. Let one person speak and mute everyone else so they don’t randomly shout on top of the speaker. Piers L imo.
lol it is by design. He WANTS it to be this way. This kind of shitshow drives “engagement” (ie views).
32:49 Why make the video then? Why weigh in on topic that you care nothing about but only because of revenue generation? This is a disgusting, abhorrent viewpoint to have. Only when it personally affects him, he will take action against it, without any sort of inquiry.
Exactly. I like Asmon, but he needs to stay out of politics. Especially when weighing in on active genocides.
its like he thinks his voice will be “the one” to shut down all the discourse, like he knows exactly how everybody is feeling. truth is he looks at things from an american individualistic point of view where hes the only one that matters.
“i dont care what cause youre protesting for, youre inconveniencing me”. this dude barely leaves his house and wants to complain about people never doing anything to fix the problem, yet the second people organize and start protesting, its just illegal and they need to stop?
@@strayexk7157 EXACTLY. the only people who dont like protesters are either A. people who dont want anything to get done or B. people who dont actually care and just dont want to be inconvenienced (literally the stance asmon takes)
Look at the content he makes. It's either him playing games or him reacting to videos that his followers chuck at him. This was the case of the latter.
Also reality check: majority of people living outside of the Middle East don't really care about this war, because they and their society is not a part of it. You need to stop thinking things on SNSs are what the whole world acts/thinks like. Go outside your house and listen/watch what people are talking about. Are they talking about Israel vs Hamas? The answer is "No, they don't. They are just living their lives".
You have the right to disagree with what Asmon says/does, but that does not take away Asmon's freedom of speech. He is not violating any laws nor RUclips terms of service.
@MIZZKIE where did anyone infringe in Asmon's freedom of speech? Asmon offered opinions. People have opinions about those opinions. No one is advocating Asmon be disallowed from speaking.
Asmon needs to understand that sometimes political issue aren't covered fairly by the party duopoly because of the nature of the american political system, which works on first past the post (broadest appeal wins) and the interests of the billionaires who fund both parties' establishments and this doesn't mean the issue isn't important enough. back in the 1800s you couldn't vote for a women's right to vote.
I will still never understand how a live round got on a movie set.
The wildest part of the spiritual sphere is that people are calling this war good vs. evil against the chosen land
Israel was created by a bunch of British Zionists. The "good vs evil" is the whole darn point. It's biblical bs (and also about the West getting a foothold on the middle-east, (aka disrupting the Muslims) but that's another can of worms.)
Crackhead Barney is like a fcking stand user from JoJo’s bro.
Her stand would be "stone cold crazy" After that queen song because she's stoned and crazy
Asmon should definitely know about geo-politic before to adress all of those subject with that much of a confidence
Yeah he claims that people are thinking with feelings instead of looking at the facts. Meanwhile, the facts show Israel has killed many more Palestinians than vice versa. There is an obvious oppressor and the oppressed relationship going on.
Understanding this conflict is not as difficult as you think it is.
@@derpaherp8981 Right, when even PhD Historians dont agree about the conflict that goes on since 1937 that isn´t as difficult as you think :D :D Sorry Hasan is insanly uneducated about the topic and Asmon ,while i think he informs himself more unbiased than Hasan, just doesn´t have the interest to get properly informed about the topic.
@@derpaherp8981 there's a lot of context needed into this conflict, which most people don't have including me, I don't know fully the extent of the conflict but what I do know is, Israel was built after colonial powers bulldozed thousands of houses and illegally occupied rhe land, now it's too late to reclaim the land however, Israel for the past decades has been restricted trade in Gaza but blocking it's port, only 25% of arabs are eligible for voting in Israel (25% of LEGAL voting age) and israelis are discouraged from inter racial marriage otherwise they'd lose some part of their citizenship. It's apartheid, it's stupid to assume that Palestinians will sit down and take it, of course they'll retaliate violently and sometimes sometimes u unjustifiable
@RyuKyu.77 but do you know why Israel restricted trade because as we have seen hames were able to get weapons from country like iran russia etc etc and the marriage thing that could be for maney Reasons who knows.
Damn these SNL skits are popping off.
Tbh these are actually funny though
I remember after 9 11 i heard so many people saying just drop nukes everywhere over there. Its already a shit hole. Its crazy how narratives change
gaddafi argued that arabs should work on united nuclear program
Media can be used to influence many illiterate people who don't fact check. If Americans knew ANYTHING about their own history, the amount of carnage, destruction, de@th, theft and instability the US has directly caused would cause everyone to turn against their own government. The US does nothing more than gaslight and now the world has woken up to their abuse. No more. This is the turning point.
The modern discourse could be the result of an overcorrection if you think about it. America's Xenophobia was bad to the point where many people were negatively affected. Simply speaking Arabic would trigger many American's fight for flight responses due to what Bid Laden did back in 2001. However now, it seems like most people are under the assumptions that anything and everything America does is evil and Israel are the true villains of the story.
Funny how things have changed in only a single generation.
classes are nearly already over doesn't mean much in the last few weeks of school to cancel class
I really disagree that they yell over each other because of social media or how they are viewed as debate opponents. Honestly that's a shallow way to look at it; I think it is simply that they are too passionate about what they are defending and they carry heavy hate for one another's ideologies..
Just wait till yall get to the first 5 mins…. That’s enough internet for today thanks.
when he introduce crackhead Barney, I knew this was going to be a good watch 🤣
No point debating with anyone if they can't, even for a second, entertain the concept they may be wrong or admit fault. This conflict will never end, outside one side being completely wiped off the face of the earth by the other. Humanity. lol.
A conflict implies two more or less equal sides. Israel has been slowly getting rid of the Palestinians for decades and when you were pointing that out you were wrong while Israel continues doing that. Now it has reached new heights and even now youre still wrong because Hamas fought back which apparently justifies wiping them out fast but youre still not allowed to say that.
what's the point of a non disruptive protest? the whole issue is that noone is lifting a finger to save innocent children from being genocided. To assume they should protest quietly in a corner so they can be easily forgotten about is absurd.
oh so where was this when name an african country gencide was happening in the last 30 years thar was a barely a peep from you guys.
@@jackjames7283 there were smaller protest and bc this time we are laterally support it
@1chibanKasuga that's my point, barely a peep, so why is this special
genocide is thrown out so much people have forgotten that this is not a genocide at all
@jackjames7283 easy information with internet you don't have to believe cnn and fox news misinformation and paying billion for crimes
During the revolution we killed loyalist civilians in the colonies. You obviously don’t know history.
Given he said "Go to England", you don't know geography.
I think being justifiable or not highly depends on which side wins. For example, if US didn't win the world war 2 after bombing Japan, the bombing would have been the evilest thing in the human history. The same goes for Palestine-Israel, until the winner is decided, we can't really know which side is more justifiable.
Thank you. Asmongold is talking like a Loyalist, he would be against the Boston Tea Party happening.
That was on both sides. Regions with loyalists tarred and feathered patriots and vice versa. It also wasn’t encouraged ( to my knowledge ) by either government.
As far as land invasions go, the British sympathizers on mainland America (the colonies) were equally as agressive once the war kicked off. Don't pretend they were just sitting there while the colonies rebelled against their king. It was mutual violence, Britain wanted control, the colonies wanted independence from that control.
The trucker protest had emergency lanes opened. Invalid argument.
Yes and still the leftists, who love when they themselves block the road, were shrieking loudest
It was also a way more sympathetic cause, as the people were protesting new laws introduced that negatively affected their own livelihoods. His take of "it you're breaking the law you're in the wrong" is generally understandable and applicable, but not absolute. What would you do then if for example a new law takes away your right to protest, even non-disruptively?
That law doesnt exist, if you want to protest do it the right way or go to jail @@zolikoff
At the end of the day actor or not a gun is still a gun and it’s your responsible regardless he an adult treat him like one.
Terrorism in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.[1] The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to intentional violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel). (For terror groups, no need to get confused or mix things up)
I hope the Elon Musk Mars rocket is getting ready
If Cyber Trucks are anything to go by, the rocket would just kill its passengers because it can't stop.
They need to give hosts a mute button
54:50 Asmongold’s dismissal of report of genocide from the international community, after saying you aren’t seeing it from other “perspectives” at 51:40.
What a Hypocrisy
Read (really) definition of Genocide, thank you.
@@Blackounay77 Explain to the international body how they are wrong classifying the conflict as a “potential” genocide on the Palestinian people and the area now is looked as humanitarian crisis by all.
@@TuveanYGloir Rwanda was a genocide. 800,00 Tutsi's 75% of their population. Dead.
The armenian genocide by the OTTOMAN EMPIRE which is the country that originally controlled the Palestine region prior to the end of world war I killed 90% of the Armenians in Anatolia.
'In January 1915 Enver Paşa attempted to push back the Russians at the battle of Sarıkamış, only to suffer the worst Ottoman defeat of the war. Although poor generalship and harsh conditions were the main reasons for the loss, the Young Turk government sought to shift the blame to Armenian treachery. Armenian soldiers and other non-Muslims in the army were demobilized and transferred into labour battalions. The disarmed Armenian soldiers were then systematically murdered by Ottoman troops, the first victims of what would become genocide. About the same time, irregular forces began to carry out mass killings in Armenian villages near the Russian border.'
These Armenians were the Ottoman's own citizen subjects.
Also, well... 6 million out of 9.5 millions jews.
The 'International body' is biased as hell and anyone who thinks 35,000 deaths in 6 months or so out of a multi-million population crushed into an area the size of Philadelphia is completely idiotic. If Israel wanted genocide, an indiscriminate bombardment on day one would easy match those numbers, and by now the place would be a parking lot.
Sure, we'd be butt crack deep in the throes of world war III, and there's probably a LOT of anti-palestinian sentiment, but that doesn't make it genocide. For that matter America killed many times that amount in the course of the 43 day desert storm war. No mention of genocide at all.
@@TuveanYGloirbecause its not a genocide so stop identifying it as one
I wonder if Asmon would be condeming the civil rights movement, and south african apartheid movements because they disrupted campuses and caused violence.
NVM he just admitted if they blocked traffic he would vote against any cause.
He would have been against the American civil rights movement. Kind of a hugely racist thing to say and do
@@iplaylol25 ong how did mlk predict the entire way of thinking of all these liberals.
@@iplaylol25 I believe his point in saying that was along the lines of if you are and asshole and alienate potential allies they will in spite be against your cause.
@@BlackandBrews MLK famously condemned and called out the "white moderate", those who didn't bother to fight for civil rights. He also blocked roads, public transport and did sit ins.
Do you spite MLK? Do you condemn the civil rights movement for vilifying the "white moderate"
@@iplaylol25 I think inaction is evil to an extent for sure. No I don't spite MLK. I do have to say though we gotta look at society as a whole at the moment, we have become selfish a people. Nowadays it is "what benefits me?" Not "What benefits my community and family". People have different priorities and wants.
Just because someone doesn't go out of their way for your cause however isn't inherently evil. Too many people, too many conflicts. Too many causes to carry the flag for when times are tough, money is tight, influence and support is sold to the highest bidder.
You gotta take your victories where you can get them. So I can't really fault anyone for not giving a shit about another countries problems when they are worried if they can make rent or not.
Piers censoring Hasan on a show called “Uncensored” is hilarious to me. He didn’t even try to hide the cut.
Technically anything that contradicts our laws and morals is unjustified.
But when morals and laws contradict each other and without adequate law changes, violence is inevitable.
Lets get a bunch of people who will 100% never change their minds to argue about something. That'll be productive.
Sorry Asmon, you are assuming and the arrogance on some topics is insane. Billions of people have existed and yet you think you have it figured out. I’m sorry but your view is also your OPINION.
He'd point out that all we have is opinions. "Opinion" isn't a mark of quality or accuracy. His opinions just happen to be shitty on a bunch of topics, especially matters of human rights and social justice. Shouldn't be surprising. He's functionally indistinguishable from a well-adapted sociopath.
The same knee that killed George Floyd is the same knee that is killing protestors. Videos of many student who shared their experiences said that the police put their knee on their neck…
he said pretty much most of the things out of arrogance and ignorance. Bring him online and ask him does he know enough about the atrocities committed by Israel and the expansion of Israel since its inception. He has no clue because he clearly demonstrated it.
all i learn from this event confirm that the next episode of south park is gonna be great😂
they got a whole season of content from these wackos at this point
28:39 hamas is a recognised terrier organization in pretty much all of western world since forever. Even other Arab countries banned them or palestinian "refugees" to enter. Queue Egypt being reluctant to open boarders back in autumn
yeah because they went ahead and caused MAJOR issues for their hosts when they did take them as refugees.
jordan had an assasination attempt happen on the king by palastinians as a matter of fact.
nonsense, everyone knows they are a Pitbull organization
@@lethargicmosquito took me a minute 🤣
(i hate the new internet language forced by social media)
Mate thats because Egypt is a puppet state of thr U.S. the overthrew thr democratically elected government and put in Cici whos the son of a Zionist. So the will of the people isnt represented by the people with power
Say that it's bad optics all you want but the reason it's hard to spend too much time condemning Hamas is that the pro Israeli strategy is all attack all the time to the point of throwing out talking points and running away before they can be pinned down taking some moral high ground. It's not fruitful to sit on a defensive pro Palestine strategy, one lady tried that in this debate to limited success.
Condemnations would make a lot more sense if the other side would take a second to condemn the actions or their leaders on their end also but that's the opposite of what's happening, why should only one side be asked to condemn violence
Because when someone is systematically annihilating you, you fight back. Native Americans weren't the savages, for example. Yes, they scalped people. Gee...they did? Oh no. They're terrorists. No, they were the victims. Ethnostates should NOT exist.
Asmon seems more mad about protests against genocide than genocide
The same knee that killed George Floyd is the same knee that is killing protestors. Videos of many student who shared their experiences said that the police put their knee on their neck…
fact if he were a victim of a genocide he would want people to protest for him too. he is acting like it's a everyday problem. we are talking about a genocide here.
@@thunderlord5434 Under 5000 people in gaza/israel have died since February , the conflict is clearly coming to a close now that most of Hamas is dead, If Israel keeps going after clearing Rafa then I'll consider it a potential Genocide but so far it seems like they're just trying to achieve their justifiable military aims, according to Hamas' numbers last I check 8,000 of the 38,000 deaths were Hamas militants, that means that 1.5% of the civilian population has died while 3/4ths of Hamas combatants have died, This again makes it clear to me that Israel isn't trying to target civilians, at least not from top down. That being said, on an emotional level this conflict makes me feel horrible the idea of innocent civilians dying, fleeing their homes and waking up not knowing if they'll die that day is truly tragic, my emotional side and my logical side are at war with this conflict.
Asmongold love you dude but I would stay away from politics. Eventually they will say you are either right or left and be alienated from alot of viewers then youll be stuck taking those stances!
Agree 100%.
I don't think he'd be stuck, but it's still probably better for him if this comment section is any indication.
@@highlordlaughterofcanada8685 Probably not but when it comes to politics people are extremely opinionated and one wrong mistake and they ostracize you for it. I like the gaming videos tbh or drama ones more. Politics are just messy
Already comments down there sayin he’s the pipeline to alt right. Pathetic
They cut out crack head barbie. I guess YT didn't like it 😂. Glad I got to see it though
Funny how that part of the world is called holy land, yet it should be called land of war, as that seems to never stop there
I think it’s geographically cursed. Either occupied by one empire or another or torn apart by internal squabble. Should probably be a nature reserve for the world that doesn’t belong to any one nation, sort of like Antarctica.
@@jasongaylard2547 except it already has people living there
The same knee that killed George Floyd is the same knee that is killing protestors. Videos of many student who shared their experiences said that the police put their knee on their neck…
It's a biblical thing but yeah it's got a lot of blood
I’m all for Disney to take over the entire region and turn it into a huge amusement park.
Hassan was right to call the Hamas condemnation masturbatory. This was what, 6-7 months after October 7th? We were 30-40k dead and a decimated Gaza at this point, but any time anyone talks about the ongoing situation it's always "But why didn't you condemn Hamas just now?".
Piers had Hasan on back on October. Piers was already grappling with "proportional response" at the time. He knows Hasan's position. Piers agreed at the time that Gaza was an open air prison.
24:00 Destiny is stupid though. He knows almost nothing about the Israel-Palestine conflict and thought he could debate people who are among the most acclaimed scholars of that region. He learned the subject in 2 weeks and was talking to people who spent decades writing books and researching the subject.
34:00 Also, just about every major protest inconvenienced civilian life - from the American Revolution to the Civil Rights movement. That is the reality and the reason why people do it is because it's effective. People only start paying attention once it starts affect their life. And Conservatives have done this too, so I don't know what you're talking about?
54:00 If international organizations all say this is a genocide, then it's a genocide. It doesn't matter what some rando's perspective is at that point because we're past the point of conversation. Are we gonna have conversations about if Nazi's also felt like they were being genocided? Conversations like this go nowhere. Actions are what are needed. And going on debate panels with Piers Morgan and literal Israeli-paid propagandists to try to have a cordial discussion does absolutely nothing for the cause. People are dying in massive numbers. Talk time is over.
58:00 You're wrong. Israeli's overwhelmingly blamed Netanyahu for the Hamas' attacks and the escalation that followed. Two-thirds of Israeli's want a ceasefire with Hamas, which Netanyahu and his administration refuse to do.