I just rode a CF MOTO 450MT (Ibex) press bike 2000 miles across northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and then back home in the U.S., mostly on dirt and gravel. Loved it. Absolutely fantastic bike. I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Nice ride guys, get the 15 tooth and it it feels way nicer on and off road, im loving mine so much the dr650 will be getting sold as well as the tiger 800. The smoothness of the motor is just awesome, and i dont feel hardly near as fatigued after a long day like i would on the dr. Keep up the great vids. Cheers Bazz
Great ride and a top review. Thankyou for your thoughts on the MT450. Certainly looks the part and like you said time will tell on how well she ages. I reckon lots of these bikes will be everywhere soon as they are priced very well and great bang for buck. Shes a bit thirsty on the juice at 4.5L per 100 but that may change over time once the motor is properly broken in maybe? Cheers.
Hopfuly you see this what is the diameter of the bar tht you have your phone and GPS connected too on the CFMoto? I pick mine up in Colombia when I get back and I am in US now and want to get a quad lock and have phone horizontal. Kind of ironic 2 of my 3 favorite bikes. If the CFMoto doesnt work out I will either go with Tuareg or Africa Twin. But I am hopeful the CFMoto is the perfect slipper for me!! This way I get to keep my street bike too! Otherwise will have to sell both bike to get the 2 bikes listed above. Great video looks like a really fun trip!
Hi there...seems like you had a great time in the bush :) how many liters petrol does the little engine need for 100 kilometers in those condition? Greetings!
GDay mate - how tall are you and how does the MT distance between seat and pegs feel? you mentioned you have ordered a tall seat. Im 6'2 and my DR650 was too cramped even with tall seat, lowered pegs and risers.
Hey mate, nice videos, and im looking to get the MT as well, they look like a game changer... Any chance of getting a location for the little farm trail, im from Yeppoon and would like to use it to get to calliope, thanks in advance, LP
@@lindsayproefke4168 I got the GPX from trans Australia trails website This track is called "east coast" and goes from Melbourne to Cape York Then we just use a gpx viewer app on an android phone and away we go Hope that helps
It might seem like comparing apples to oranges but I would be interested in hearing some direct comparison between the CFMOTO and the Aprilia. Specifically the weight and power difference.
They're similar riding position etc The Aprilia weighs 29kg more according to our scale As for power ... 44hp compared to 80 is fairly noticeable Obviously the CF is more manageable in the tight stuff and the Aprilia runs away on the open roads
@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks for such a speedy response! Initially I was thinking why wouldn't I deal with the extra few pounds for the big increase and power (again ignoring price, which is a huge deal of course) but that is more of a weight difference than I was expecting. It definitely makes the CFMOTO more tempting.
@@porkshank13 i wonder if they weighed them with luggage on. Aprilia wet weight is meant to be 204KG vs 450MT at 192KG. 12KG difference. Also could be mods like crash bars, skid plate etc
Hi. Good review!. I have a KLR 2014 with the same power and weight than the 450MT. However since the engine of the KLR is 650cc, the KLR goes at less RPM than the 450MT @ the same speed. I wonder if it would be a real upgrade going from the KLR to the 450MT. Cheers.
I have an Aprilia Tuareg 660 and I'm thinking of changing it for a CFMoto 450...I'm looking for something lighter, is there a real weight difference between them? Thanks.
@@derekandleonie5636 thank you, seriously considering this bike when it hits our shores , going to try the “less is more” approach. Read a few horror stories about cam wear on the aprilia that is giving me cold feet on that bike.
I'm using RAM mounts The GPS bolts straight to the ram mount base and I glued a phone case to another ram mount. Quad lock also make good options but Ive been using these same mounts for years
Would be nice to hear your thoughts on the Trans 650 vs 450mt. Power/weight/top heavy/ perceived torque/ Ergos (distance from seat to pegs) and so on. Cheers
Still waiting for some1 to test any cf moto bike above 100k km😊 They look great and all but being chinese I would never buy one myself (honda fanboy here)
@@macp988 I like my Honda's as much as anyone.. check out my earlier videos to see my old faithful transalp all over the country but these are an interesting experiment for sure and it'll be interesting to see if they go the distance... I saw one the other day with 20k on the clock trouble free but only time will tell
@@derekandleonie5636 it looks in video like mt is a lot taller...Im thinking about buying aprilia for traveling around europe/asia...But its double the price of cf moto here...What you think what is better option?
@@bobanppvc Daryls Aprilia has been lowered to suit him.. the CF is also very low Whilst I really like the Aprilia, I would choose the CF as here in Australia 1 is 23k and the other is 9k You can do a lot of travel with the 14 grand saving
Even if Yamaha did a T450 it would be pretty basic and featureless as not to compete with the T7 as the CRF is kept basic to not compete with the CX. Same with the Transalp it won’t get the features of the Africa twin. With the MT you get everything!
@@derekandleonie5636 yeah they really do look well put together and easy to service usually bikes at that price require lots of mods my DR and CRF certainly did. I like the fact there are factory crash bars available the bike has been designed to have crash bars fitted often crash bars look a lot stronger than what they are mounted to! I remember my dad teaching me all about “Jap Crap” in the 70’s and it’s interesting to see it happening again if I harms spent so much on my CRF I would get an MT in a heartbeat.
It is not the own that people think that it is when you say that people may have other Chinese things in their home, when they say did they don't want to purchase this bike because it is chinese. There is a damn big difference between a chinese-made belt wearing out early or socks wearing out early or phone holder not sticking to your windshield etc etc etc compared to having a chinese-made bike that won't start on the top of a mountain 60 miles from civilization in all directions and you have to walk your ass back to the nearest town or at least be mashing your SOS button on your Garmin In Reach device, which one of these bikes and others you damn well should have, or something. It's quite possible I'd still get the cfmoto, with how good it is, but Chinese things that matter like motorcycles and cars Etc these things must, absolutely must, be dependable. No one gives a shit if you're sock gets a hole in it because it's made in china.
Unless you're in the damn boardroom neither of you know what the hell you're talking about. It's true the switch gear looks quite similar to KTM and there's rumors that CFMOTO bought this bike which was supposed to be a 450 Adventure off of ktm, but there's no proof either way. Maybe both of you should stop speaking so definitively?
I wouldn’t buy a Chinese bike , I would rather get the 450 Himalayan, only reason I say that is not the fact that the Chinese are building better quality bikes now ( and CF MOTO are probably one of the best due to the KTM partnership ) But mind is more political . I have a 300 Rally and a V85tt Moto Guzzi . I live in the Atherton tablelands for the winter 🥶, and Albury/ Wodonga rest of the year - Vic high Country riding gold .
@@derekandleonie5636 done ✅ that all my electrical appliances in the house are NOT Chinese ( with exception of toastie maker is Chinese ) they have been making them in China for around 40 years or more . Not much Chinese clothes, no Chinese boots , motorcycle clothing , So I try and practice what I preach. Yes some stuff is unavoidable ( but if I have an option of non Chinese I will take it .
I just rode a CF MOTO 450MT (Ibex) press bike 2000 miles across northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and then back home in the U.S., mostly on dirt and gravel. Loved it. Absolutely fantastic bike. I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Yep.. they're an impressive little package for sure
Great video and stunning scenery.One of my work colleagues has just emigrated from Wales to Mackay.Absolutely loves it so far.👍
Nice ride guys, get the 15 tooth and it it feels way nicer on and off road, im loving mine so much the dr650 will be getting sold as well as the tiger 800. The smoothness of the motor is just awesome, and i dont feel hardly near as fatigued after a long day like i would on the dr. Keep up the great vids. Cheers Bazz
Great ride and a top review. Thankyou for your thoughts on the MT450. Certainly looks the part and like you said time will tell on how well she ages. I reckon lots of these bikes will be everywhere soon as they are priced very well and great bang for buck. Shes a bit thirsty on the juice at 4.5L per 100 but that may change over time once the motor is properly broken in maybe?
Cheers.
It could definitely get better economy if I lost a few pounds and wasn't chasing the 80hp Aprilia like a lunatic 😂
Looks like a great little bike. Price is very good.
It sure is.
I took it road riding today and it's still exceeding my expectations
@@derekandleonie5636 Don't think I would be allowed to have 3 bikes :-) Up here at Baffle if you ever want to do a run up, plenty room to camp.
@@WagsOutback sounds great 👍
Hopfuly you see this what is the diameter of the bar tht you have your phone and GPS connected too on the CFMoto? I pick mine up in Colombia when I get back and I am in US now and want to get a quad lock and have phone horizontal. Kind of ironic 2 of my 3 favorite bikes. If the CFMoto doesnt work out I will either go with Tuareg or Africa Twin. But I am hopeful the CFMoto is the perfect slipper for me!! This way I get to keep my street bike too! Otherwise will have to sell both bike to get the 2 bikes listed above. Great video looks like a really fun trip!
Good review, thank you. God bless
Hi there...seems like you had a great time in the bush :) how many liters petrol does the little engine need for 100 kilometers in those condition? Greetings!
I'm getting 4.5 litres per hundred according to the screen
@@derekandleonie5636 thank you!
4.X/100
@@Tim-turbo-o thx :)
I’ve ridden with Darryl and Ken Allan before
GDay mate - how tall are you and how does the MT distance between seat and pegs feel? you mentioned you have ordered a tall seat. Im 6'2 and my DR650 was too cramped even with tall seat, lowered pegs and risers.
I'm 6'2 and it's a little cramped but doesn't bother me.. you'll have to ride one and see if you'll be able to live with it 👍
Hey mate, nice videos, and im looking to get the MT as well, they look like a game changer... Any chance of getting a location for the little farm trail, im from Yeppoon and would like to use it to get to calliope, thanks in advance, LP
@@lindsayproefke4168 I got the GPX from trans Australia trails website
This track is called "east coast" and goes from Melbourne to Cape York
Then we just use a gpx viewer app on an android phone and away we go
Hope that helps
@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks mate for your reply, i found the file and will give it a crack..thx
It might seem like comparing apples to oranges but I would be interested in hearing some direct comparison between the CFMOTO and the Aprilia. Specifically the weight and power difference.
They're similar riding position etc
The Aprilia weighs 29kg more according to our scale
As for power ... 44hp compared to 80 is fairly noticeable
Obviously the CF is more manageable in the tight stuff and the Aprilia runs away on the open roads
@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks for such a speedy response! Initially I was thinking why wouldn't I deal with the extra few pounds for the big increase and power (again ignoring price, which is a huge deal of course) but that is more of a weight difference than I was expecting. It definitely makes the CFMOTO more tempting.
@@porkshank13 i wonder if they weighed them with luggage on. Aprilia wet weight is meant to be 204KG vs 450MT at 192KG. 12KG difference. Also could be mods like crash bars, skid plate etc
Hi. Good review!. I have a KLR 2014 with the same power and weight than the 450MT. However since the engine of the KLR is 650cc, the KLR goes at less RPM than the 450MT @ the same speed. I wonder if it would be a real upgrade going from the KLR to the 450MT. Cheers.
KLR is a great bike however I just personally prefer the twin cylinder
You will probably get a better mpg on the mt
The KLR needs a 6th gear
Once you go to a twin for an adventure bike you tend not to go back to single cylinder.
Great food thanks for sharing! Any chance of a GPX file I have to see the platypuses ❤
I haven't got a gpx of that area sorry
They're in eungella national Park just out of Mackay.. pretty well sign posted and easy to find
Which brand are the extensión of the windshield and the Cruise control? The app is what they Call Tbox or is something else? Thanks!!
@@amb9839 no brand... Just Ebay specials
Yes the app is called tbox
Great ride - sounds like your bike is seeing what it's meant to do :D Could you share GPX files of your rides?
I get tracks from
transaustraliatrail.com.au/
This track is called East Coast which goes from Melbourne to Cape York
@@derekandleonie5636 Thanks! Found it - looks good!
Curious about that tuareg lightbar setup :o could you tell me something more?
Check my other videos
I've just uploaded a walk around of Daryl's bikes and the way he's set them up
I have an Aprilia Tuareg 660 and I'm thinking of changing it for a CFMoto 450...I'm looking for something lighter, is there a real weight difference between them?
Thanks.
The CF is Around 30 kg lighter
Thanks a lot for your response, on the specs the MT has around 192 kg wet....Tuareg 204....there is so much mistery about this....
@@williampeiper292 we weighed them both on an industrial scale that Daryl owns and his Aprilia is 218kg and my MT was 189kg
@@derekandleonie5636both full tanks?
@@WaveformV1.0 yes
Good review. Thank you.
Cfmoto 450 with 2 people on did you try it? Can it handle it well if u tried it?
No I haven't
It would probably be a bit squishy for 2 larger people
Is it happy to ride along at 100kph on the roads? Can you compare the road comfort with the aprilia?
It cruises well at 100
Obviously the Aprilia does it easier with the extra power but the CF is more than capable
@@derekandleonie5636 thank you, seriously considering this bike when it hits our shores , going to try the “less is more” approach. Read a few horror stories about cam wear on the aprilia that is giving me cold feet on that bike.
What phone mount and gps mount do you have?
I'm using RAM mounts
The GPS bolts straight to the ram mount base and I glued a phone case to another ram mount.
Quad lock also make good options but Ive been using these same mounts for years
Would be nice to hear your thoughts on the Trans 650 vs 450mt. Power/weight/top heavy/ perceived torque/ Ergos (distance from seat to pegs) and so on. Cheers
They're very similar other than the obvious age related differences
@@derekandleonie5636 Well alright, did anything stuck out when you jumped on first time?
How light the clutch was compared to the transalp
Whats the oxford thing?
@@augustbrante8117 heated grips
This cfmoto 450 mt actually ! This bike has the engine that was going to be on 490 adventure r.. that ktm desided to avoit the productión
If that's the case they've made a bad decision... These little twins are amazing
Good review 👍🏼
Thanks! 👍
Is the 660 twice an mt to justify the price?
Daryl just sold his 660 and bought a 450 so best guess the answer is no 😂
@@derekandleonie5636 wow
@derekandleonie5636 I think in most things it will compete but touring klms you just need that extra hp
"Internet experts". I'm going to use that in my tongue.
Still waiting for some1 to test any cf moto bike above 100k km😊 They look great and all but being chinese I would never buy one myself (honda fanboy here)
@@macp988 I like my Honda's as much as anyone.. check out my earlier videos to see my old faithful transalp all over the country but these are an interesting experiment for sure and it'll be interesting to see if they go the distance... I saw one the other day with 20k on the clock trouble free but only time will tell
How does the power compare to a drz400?
Feels much smoother and way more civilized
@@derekandleonie5636 does it feel like it has as much torque?
@@IAmYourReflection yes... Definitely feels like much more torque
@@derekandleonie5636 nice good to know! 👍
Is cf moto bigger than Aprilia?
No
@@derekandleonie5636 it looks in video like mt is a lot taller...Im thinking about buying aprilia for traveling around europe/asia...But its double the price of cf moto here...What you think what is better option?
@@bobanppvc Daryls Aprilia has been lowered to suit him.. the CF is also very low
Whilst I really like the Aprilia, I would choose the CF as here in Australia 1 is 23k and the other is 9k
You can do a lot of travel with the 14 grand saving
Here is aprilia 12k and cf moto 6.5k...
Even if Yamaha did a T450 it would be pretty basic and featureless as not to compete with the T7 as the CRF is kept basic to not compete with the CX. Same with the Transalp it won’t get the features of the Africa twin. With the MT you get everything!
Yes that's true... What I meant by comparison with a tenere 450 was about build quality being as good as the Japanese
@@derekandleonie5636 yeah they really do look well put together and easy to service usually bikes at that price require lots of mods my DR and CRF certainly did. I like the fact there are factory crash bars available the bike has been designed to have crash bars fitted often crash bars look a lot stronger than what they are mounted to! I remember my dad teaching me all about “Jap Crap” in the 70’s and it’s interesting to see it happening again if I harms spent so much on my CRF I would get an MT in a heartbeat.
from top notch motor bikes to low level bikes the design and looks are almost the same.
Honda and Yamaha must be shamed.
everyone says good things about the cfmoto
@@thelonewolf666 understandable.. they're a good thing
It is not the own that people think that it is when you say that people may have other Chinese things in their home, when they say did they don't want to purchase this bike because it is chinese.
There is a damn big difference between a chinese-made belt wearing out early or socks wearing out early or phone holder not sticking to your windshield etc etc etc compared to having a chinese-made bike that won't start on the top of a mountain 60 miles from civilization in all directions and you have to walk your ass back to the nearest town or at least be mashing your SOS button on your Garmin In Reach device, which one of these bikes and others you damn well should have, or something.
It's quite possible I'd still get the cfmoto, with how good it is, but Chinese things that matter like motorcycles and cars Etc these things must, absolutely must, be dependable. No one gives a shit if you're sock gets a hole in it because it's made in china.
Ok... To each their own
It’s not CF moto made this bike, the frame, parts, engine, all KTM gene. If you own one KTM, you would understand what I say.
@@hsiaoadam2857 we won't hold that against the CF 😂
It is CF moto everything on this, not one part including motor is not from ktm, don't spread misinformation.
Unless you're in the damn boardroom neither of you know what the hell you're talking about. It's true the switch gear looks quite similar to KTM and there's rumors that CFMOTO bought this bike which was supposed to be a 450 Adventure off of ktm, but there's no proof either way. Maybe both of you should stop speaking so definitively?
I wouldn’t buy a Chinese bike , I would rather get the 450 Himalayan, only reason I say that is not the fact that the Chinese are building better quality bikes now ( and CF MOTO are probably one of the best due to the KTM partnership ) But mind is more political . I have a 300 Rally and a V85tt Moto Guzzi . I live in the Atherton tablelands for the winter 🥶, and Albury/ Wodonga rest of the year - Vic high Country riding gold .
Fair comment... But have a look around your house and check out how much stuff you have that's made in China
You better throw out every appliance in the house, and the clothes you're wearing 😂
After you throw away all your clothes and appliances, I’m afraid your phone is next
@@derekandleonie5636 done ✅ that all my electrical appliances in the house are NOT Chinese ( with exception of toastie maker is Chinese ) they have been making them in China for around 40 years or more . Not much Chinese clothes, no Chinese boots , motorcycle clothing , So I try and practice what I preach. Yes some stuff is unavoidable ( but if I have an option of non Chinese I will take it .
@@alexjohnson3696 look at my reply below, if I have a choice of non- Chinese stuff I buy it instead.
Can I ask what tyres you have on the bikes?
@@Taf68 I'm running a 130 Dunlop d606 on the rear and a Pirelli scorpion rally race on the front both with tubes and they work great for me