If it's not clear in the final cut-despite some of its mod tiers being lopsided, I really appreciate how all of warthog's OCs are at least reasonably good. The mechanical stuff in the video aside, I'd recommend anyone who uses it to try switching to a different OC than they normally use for a change, you pretty much can't go wrong. And despite how long this took to get out(in my defense, I'm taking computer science classes right now), a whole lot of the struggle was getting this video down to a manageable size. Pretty pleased it wound up under 30 minutes. Other drg test/info videos: ruclips.net/p/PLqTo6tQ9tCOrABARyls3C94qzGo6TW3h_
Maybe it's just me and it's probably worse for view count and such but longer videos=more LazyMaybe, which would make me even happier. The video was amazing, thanks for the content and I'll happily wait the next video, no matter how long it'll take.
Good luck with your CS classes! Thanks for putting out amazing DRG content as always. Just started getting lots of Warthog OCs so this video came out at the perfect time.
Every time i watch one of your videos i learn that one of the mods i've been running for the past 100hrs has actually been hurting more than it's helping. i go tweak my build and find the game even more enjoyable. thanks for the great content!
I just thought of something you could do to buff the Miner Adjustments mod that doesn't step on the toes of any of the other mods. Give it spread negation when engie moves like Gunner's Deadeye mod for the Bulldog. It would encourage a run and gun engie playstyle who has already taken accuracy mods/OC's.
Wooohooo!!! More LazyMaybe content. Today is the best day. No real shocks to my system like I've had in some of your other breakdown videos, but some good info and inspiration to try and use the shotgun more. I'm one of those filthy dwarves that takes turret whip because I know it's super strong, and then only remembers during evac that he can whip his turrets. Gotta get better at that, and using warthog more often rather than the other primaries is the prescription. Thanks for this series, and know that the whole DRG community appreciates your insight and humour!
This is, by and large, the absolute best DRG content on RUclips. Your break-downs remind of Spirit of the Law's AoE 2 mechanics videos: thorough, comprehensive, and test how things actually function in a real game. I look forward to every single one of your uploads. You're one of like two RUclipsrs I have notifications turned on for lol
I'm a little bit surprised by the fact that you didn't mention the synergy between the Stunner OC and Turret Whip's guaranteed stun. In fact, that's the main reason why I don't take defender system on my turrets, since the extra damage on my shotgun means that it feels like (will probably have to go and run some number tests) I consume a similar amount of turret ammo killing praetorians. If anything, it's usually less, since I often only need 2 turret whip shots along with ~a little bit less than a mag of warthog ammo. I understand that's actually less ammo efficient in the long run, since defender system giving increased damage doesn't hurt those situations. Not to mention that warthog ammo is more valuable than turret ammo, generally speaking. But I still run it because of it's higher time to kill for praetorians and how defender system really limits where I can position my turrets. Although I do admit the longer range can sometimes be a deficit to my ammo econ, I usually take the ammo upgrade for turrets so that doesn't really matter. I've honestly considered running no T4 on turrets to prevent those long range turret whip situations, I end up keeping it just so I can redirect my turret away from those situations and hope my team understands why I'm pinging the random grunt on the ground for 0.5 seconds before I obliterate it with my turret whip. Although I will admit, I'll probably try out magnetic turret alignment after this video! I didn't realize that it allows you to one shot slashers! It's ability to do that as well as one shot mactera grunts along with it's accuracy allowing it to more consistently two shot spitters on the ceiling almost makes you into a mini scout. Which is funny, because I exclusively run RJ250 Compound for my Engineer secondary.
there is two things that make me go back to drg, a new season and a new video that make me want to try defferent build. nice job ! ! ! ! ! I love the deatil of your video so inspiering ! I wanted to try more wartog anyway so it came at a good moment
I love how passionate you are about these videos nd all of the stuff that goes into them, I got tired just looking at your probability trees lmao. I love this game and you make it so much more fun to play w the knowledge you provide
This randomly popped into my recommended and funnily enough during a time i've been debating to myself the warthogs usability vs his other primaries, Alot of fine detail and statistics i never considered to think about was included in this video. Fantastic video, Informative and fun, Definitely giving the warthog another go after this.
For turrets, I like to think of them more as supports than a playstyle. My weakness as a player is seeing distant enemies, and enemies in the darkness - the bane of my existence is something creeping through some Karl-damned arcane geometry I couldn't have conceived and then biting my ankles out of nowhere while I'm retreating from something else. The Hawkeye system for me isn't about being able to target specific enemies - that's little more than a support bonus when I _do_ see something the team really should focus on. It's about general purpose suppression to pick off those dastardly bugs crawling outside of my range of perception. Engi's weapons are good enough for face-to-face conflicts that I have zero desire to have to micromanage two turrets with limited range of perception and limited effective combat reach just so they can deal with my face-to-face conflicts for me; I would much rather shore up the one thing I'm awful at - paying attention to my surroundings. MK-2 appeals to me for these reasons. The extra turret ammo capacity is also nice on account of my tendency to only remember the Turret exists after it's stopped shooting otherwise.
I am a firm believer in MPA (Magnetic Pellet Alignment) + Total Ammo, it lets be bring the funny nuke overclock without being stressed for ammo nearly as much.
cant wait for Cryo cannon breakdown from you, I think it would be such as interesting, there so much to talk about this weapon! especially I want to hear your opinion on Ice Storm 11112 build, since almost every driller who using cryo - go Mr.Freeze build, and then actually killing bugs with secondary or othe utility the Ice Storm allows to annihilate every common bug on its own, + you basically become invulnerable from melee attacks while you holding m1 cause Cold Radiance on tier 5 don't get effected by freeze power penalty, which means you still can freeze stuff! and you have quite good ammo economy for drillers primary (of course if you not going for tier 3 increase flow rate)
Idea for rebalancing: Give the warthog 8 base damage Replace bigger pellets with a small ammo mod This would make the warthog better early on meaning more people would enjoy using it, armor breaking would actually do something useful, and people who use loaded shells religiously such as myself still get an option for ammo.
Good stuff as usual. You always go all out with the numbers, and despite my love for all forms of mini-ammo, I do agree that minishells is hardly any different from just taking practically any other OC and taking the ammo mod. Mini shells is kind of amusing when you also go full-auto Miner Adjustments, but really, Lightweight Mags does the same thing with an amusingly fast reload speed instead of a bigger mag.
Fantastic and informative video! I’ve always wanted you to do one of these for the autocannon since some of the OCs seem to have such minute differences that it comes down to preference while others completely change the gun for the better
The armor break calculations for shotguns reminds me of how crit chance in New Vegas and fallout 3 worked in the same way, with every pellet rolling for extra damage individually. I wonder if we can bully-er, politely charter, ghostship for critical damage on the warthog.
Thanks for the guide. I was a Mini Shells enthusiast cuz I like to be able to spam turret whip and still have plenty ammo to clear packs of grunts myself when moving. Hearing that LW Mags is similar pool and can still one shot more efficiently is a clear winner (wasn’t aware I was missing out on 1 shot potential lol…)
I honestly think they both still have the same level of efficiency in-game. Even with OC-less warthog I still use 2, sometimes even 3 shells on a single grunt because of how the human brain works (you can't expect to land 7-8 pellets on average on a grunt's head, especially on higher hazards), and switching to mini shells from cycle overload didn't change the shots to kill count all that much, except now I don't have to worry about running out of ammo as often as other builds. Mini Shells is still quite bad at DPS and dealing with larger targets, but the +84 ammo gained allows you to spam turret whip without worrying about your damage all that much. You can go balls out and choose ammo bags for turrets if you're insane.
surprised you didn't mention taking t2 ammo on cycle overload. I tried it out of curiosity and my impression is it's a good alternative to the mini shell niche (not caring about your ammo), but for if you want to sacrifice effective range instead of sacrificing damage.
Nothing wrong with it, just not my preference and not exactly as noteworthy as "the biggest burst dps this weapon can do". There's other builds that are perfectly reasonable that aren't shown(like loaded shells LWM or -recoil MPA), just not gonna show every combination for brevity's sake.
my fav build is 12221 magnetic pellets and I only ever play with the warthog, just love the gun. I dont bother with animation cancelling even on haz 6x2 and I feel like the warthog's spray pattern has a specific consistency of always ~25% of pellets hitting the "inner" reticle, I can snipe spitters even at 20-30m distance with a crit
Mini shells covers a niche which is I can't aim well. I will usually 'never' 1tap a grunt in a face with a dmg build. If I'm off even a little bit I tend to need a second follow-up shot. Even from range this is true, so making each shot do less dmg means aiming poorly is less punishing. The other aspect is dmg from other sources. I'm when playing with other friends rarely are we super seperated. We have dmg flying around from reflecting bullets, to DoT timers, fire going off, etc. Which means bugs are usually partially damaged and not requiring full damage from my shotgun either. Especially with engineer's double turrets, swarmer nade, Bet-C, and bosco running around even in solo a bug is rarely at full hp.
It would be cool for ghost shipe to buff some of the mods like hawk eye, like the new hawk eye will make your sentry target weakpoint and have 10% more weakpoint dmg
when i first started playing DRG i despised the Warthog as it felt incredibly weak. Magnetic alignment convinced me to give it a second try, and since the it is my favorite engie primary. I still mostly stick to Magnetic alignment, but the weak feeling from when i started isnt the case anymore as i learned how to use it effectively regardless of OC.
I never liked the idea of Turret whip (or the other turret centric mods on other guns) because the idea of it just felt kinda janky to me, having to stick around your turret to use it and use your own ammo + more ammo from the turret, I guess. However, I did try it out recently after seeing another video breaking it down and have found that it is quite good. I just wish it was implemented some other way, like different turret types or something.
Personally I run a a c b b with MPA cause I like having Fat Boy on my grenade launcher and I needed a gun that's kinda good at everything as a result, so I built for horde killing then gave it an elite killing OC to balance it out.
16:22 lmfao, I have 600 hrs of DRG played and I can't believe I needed someone to tell me I don't always have to build two turrets 😅 This is going to improve my ammo efficiency so much, god dammit.
Ive always hated playing Engineer. Every class has its own calling, but I've yet to figure out what engineers have. I hate to hate on engineers, but I can't justify any praise for him
@@leoritchie9635he trivializes some tough rooms in On-Site Refinery missions by bridging for pipelines. Outside of the QOL his platforms bring for that and your ceiling-mining scouts, he has REALLY solid zone control. His platforms with the repellant upgrade are regarded as 2x the size they really are for enemy pathing, meaning you can completely stop enemies from climbing down the ceiling above you and funnel them off to the sides. Breach cutter has several insane AOE builds. Turrets are turrets. TL;DR, area manipulation is his thing. A good engie can take a room and manipulate it such that enemies can only approach from a couple of specific directions. He doesn't quite have the highest single-target damage, nor the highest AOE, but outside of a Gunner's bubble shield, he's definitely the strongest to have in a holdout situation.
Honestly I've tried really really really reallllllyy hard to use Gemini and defender system but whenever I do I find myself just, not playing engi anymore until I switch back to MK2 and Hawkeye I understand all the arguments for it, I really do, I just do not have any fun playing with the turrets that way I'm sorry. Does both MK2 and Hawkeye need a buff? Yes absolutely, does that mean I won't use them? No I literally can't tolerate playing without them
Please do one of these for the sludge pump, the gun is so complex yet the in game info is so lacking, besides, is one of the coolest and more unique guns in the game imo.
@@manboy4720 I remember the time when it was first added in season 1 and nothing had corrosion resistance, killing oppressors in seconds and dreadnought in roughly 2 minutes... Good times those were
@@rustycrowbar4250 Please, go to 1:59. If you need three warthog shots to kill a grunt, most likely that's a problem of the wielder, not the gun. I often need two mind you, my aim is not great, but one-shots are VERY much possible. Including on hazard level 5, with 3 others in the lobby.
Fun trick with turret whip - Place your gemini turrets close together and shoot between them. Given only one pellet is needed to activate the empowered shot, you can have them both shoot, simplifying the cooldown, saving shotgun ammo, and increasing DPS.
Note that this can sometimes be overkill and end up wasting ammo. If both turrets are aiming at weaker targets that would normally die to a single whip shot, then the second one gets no value. But when dealing with higher hazards, this is pretty rare, as guards and praetorians are very common
seeing you take the time to calc armor break chance per pellet per each successive punchthrough has now allowed me to understand why you take months to make these
The shot at 27:24 is just so goddamn satisfying -- showing off the oneshot capabilities on the first two grunts and then the stun on the third, timed with the voiceover, all in one shot. That's some good editing right there.
I was just talking about engineer's primaries today, and I have to say they're all decent, but Warthog is the daily bread that gets it's job done. It's just weird that most engie's secondaries are so much stronger than the primaries, usually it's the other way around.
Turret whip ammo consumption is fixed, so if you run Gemini turrets (even if you use a single turret) you can be more ammo efficient since each turret whip consumes a lower % of your total ammo.
Imo the biggest problem with ammo economy warthog is that engi is overloaded with excellent ammo-hungry bug killing options, which means if you make warthog have more ammo than his secondary and his turrets, you lose some ammo efficiency at the _resupply_ step of the process. If you soup up when your secondary and turrets are completely empty but warthog still has some leftover ammo, that's wasted ammo on the warthog that could've been replaced with damage mods, and that gets even worse if you're in circumstances that call for (and allow) double dipping. Ideally, you want all three of your weapons' ammo consumption to just about line up to make the most of your soup pods.
I'll second this Especially with the new Pump-action overclock adding more base damage and pellets - would be good to see if armor breaking is actually better than a flat +1
Edit: Doesn't Turret Whip also have innate armor break, or is that just an explosive attribute? Personally I like Hawkeye for the range and for the Pirate-y feeling of precisely aiming a target and launching two green cannonballs of death lol MPA + Loaded is the only way to one-shot slashers? Otherwise, being able to one-shot grunts at 25m and two-shot at 40m with MPA + Choke seems super ammo and range efficient, if running Fat Boy or Breech Cutter. What do you think? Also, your probability trees were so clean and organized it made me want to do math stuff.
I use Stronger Turret, Defender System, and Quick Deploy on my turret, plop it down, build it, and when it runs out of Ammo/I'm on the other side of the caves and need it again I just recall it. I personally super dislike Turret Whip since I find "Run around and meatshot anything that stands in front of me for long enough to pull the trigger" gets me killed less often than babysitting my turrets since I have horrible tunnel vision problems. Still far from a bad mod, I just prefer the Full Auto fire rate buff to shred down Oppressors / hordes / Praetorians slightly faster. Definitely my favorite gun when I need a bit more fire power than Loki can provide. I'll certainly try out Gemini system some, although I haven't used it much since before my first promotion Minor Side note: I love how the pellet spread doesn't change when sprinting, and instead it just lands somewhere else, which disregarding Video Game Logic for a bit, really makes sense. If you're running, the barrel of your gun is probably not as steady as it could be, but nothing is changed INSIDE the gun for the pellets to spread out more.
Are you planning on doing a dissection of the breach cutter? No pressure but your videos are very informative and insightful, which made me reconsider how I used many weapons even after 800 hours of playing drg and breach cutter is something I've never been able to get into, although many say it's great or even amazing to a degree. Thank you for your videos LazyMaybe.
The last of the damage-boosting overclocks is Cycle Overload, which is also the most unga bunga one. Me, a caveman: "Make sense. That why me love it. "
If it's not clear in the final cut-despite some of its mod tiers being lopsided, I really appreciate how all of warthog's OCs are at least reasonably good. The mechanical stuff in the video aside, I'd recommend anyone who uses it to try switching to a different OC than they normally use for a change, you pretty much can't go wrong.
And despite how long this took to get out(in my defense, I'm taking computer science classes right now), a whole lot of the struggle was getting this video down to a manageable size. Pretty pleased it wound up under 30 minutes.
Other drg test/info videos: ruclips.net/p/PLqTo6tQ9tCOrABARyls3C94qzGo6TW3h_
Maybe it's just me and it's probably worse for view count and such but longer videos=more LazyMaybe, which would make me even happier. The video was amazing, thanks for the content and I'll happily wait the next video, no matter how long it'll take.
Me, who watches 3-hour long interviews and 5-hour game analysis:
30-minutes video? Is this a trailer?
Good luck with your CS classes! Thanks for putting out amazing DRG content as always. Just started getting lots of Warthog OCs so this video came out at the perfect time.
Good video, thanks. I love warthog
any suggestions for mag pellet secondary?
These voiced over weapon breakdowns are single-handedly my favorite drg content on youtube. Thank you for this
You said it, I couldn't agree with you more.
:D
Every time i watch one of your videos i learn that one of the mods i've been running for the past 100hrs has actually been hurting more than it's helping. i go tweak my build and find the game even more enjoyable. thanks for the great content!
I just thought of something you could do to buff the Miner Adjustments mod that doesn't step on the toes of any of the other mods. Give it spread negation when engie moves like Gunner's Deadeye mod for the Bulldog. It would encourage a run and gun engie playstyle who has already taken accuracy mods/OC's.
Deep Rock Galactic is a special game and this is a special channel. It's always a ton of fun to learn more about this game from you.
Wooohooo!!! More LazyMaybe content. Today is the best day.
No real shocks to my system like I've had in some of your other breakdown videos, but some good info and inspiration to try and use the shotgun more.
I'm one of those filthy dwarves that takes turret whip because I know it's super strong, and then only remembers during evac that he can whip his turrets. Gotta get better at that, and using warthog more often rather than the other primaries is the prescription.
Thanks for this series, and know that the whole DRG community appreciates your insight and humour!
This is, by and large, the absolute best DRG content on RUclips. Your break-downs remind of Spirit of the Law's AoE 2 mechanics videos: thorough, comprehensive, and test how things actually function in a real game. I look forward to every single one of your uploads. You're one of like two RUclipsrs I have notifications turned on for lol
I'm a little bit surprised by the fact that you didn't mention the synergy between the Stunner OC and Turret Whip's guaranteed stun. In fact, that's the main reason why I don't take defender system on my turrets, since the extra damage on my shotgun means that it feels like (will probably have to go and run some number tests) I consume a similar amount of turret ammo killing praetorians. If anything, it's usually less, since I often only need 2 turret whip shots along with ~a little bit less than a mag of warthog ammo.
I understand that's actually less ammo efficient in the long run, since defender system giving increased damage doesn't hurt those situations. Not to mention that warthog ammo is more valuable than turret ammo, generally speaking. But I still run it because of it's higher time to kill for praetorians and how defender system really limits where I can position my turrets. Although I do admit the longer range can sometimes be a deficit to my ammo econ, I usually take the ammo upgrade for turrets so that doesn't really matter. I've honestly considered running no T4 on turrets to prevent those long range turret whip situations, I end up keeping it just so I can redirect my turret away from those situations and hope my team understands why I'm pinging the random grunt on the ground for 0.5 seconds before I obliterate it with my turret whip.
Although I will admit, I'll probably try out magnetic turret alignment after this video! I didn't realize that it allows you to one shot slashers! It's ability to do that as well as one shot mactera grunts along with it's accuracy allowing it to more consistently two shot spitters on the ceiling almost makes you into a mini scout. Which is funny, because I exclusively run RJ250 Compound for my Engineer secondary.
I missed these videos a lot! I hope you can keep making them in the coming weeks and months!
Came here after someone in-game were talking on how good the Warthog is and mentioning your channel! (on portuguese, too!)
I just got back into drg and i recently searched up your channel and theres a new video
Timing is amazing
there is two things that make me go back to drg, a new season and a new video that make me want to try defferent build. nice job ! ! ! ! !
I love the deatil of your video so inspiering !
I wanted to try more wartog anyway so it came at a good moment
I love how passionate you are about these videos nd all of the stuff that goes into them, I got tired just looking at your probability trees lmao. I love this game and you make it so much more fun to play w the knowledge you provide
Another banger video brought to you by LazyMaybe
Your videos are the only reason why I'm able to do hazard 4
This randomly popped into my recommended and funnily enough during a time i've been debating to myself the warthogs usability vs his other primaries, Alot of fine detail and statistics i never considered to think about was included in this video.
Fantastic video, Informative and fun, Definitely giving the warthog another go after this.
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For turrets, I like to think of them more as supports than a playstyle. My weakness as a player is seeing distant enemies, and enemies in the darkness - the bane of my existence is something creeping through some Karl-damned arcane geometry I couldn't have conceived and then biting my ankles out of nowhere while I'm retreating from something else.
The Hawkeye system for me isn't about being able to target specific enemies - that's little more than a support bonus when I _do_ see something the team really should focus on. It's about general purpose suppression to pick off those dastardly bugs crawling outside of my range of perception. Engi's weapons are good enough for face-to-face conflicts that I have zero desire to have to micromanage two turrets with limited range of perception and limited effective combat reach just so they can deal with my face-to-face conflicts for me; I would much rather shore up the one thing I'm awful at - paying attention to my surroundings. MK-2 appeals to me for these reasons. The extra turret ammo capacity is also nice on account of my tendency to only remember the Turret exists after it's stopped shooting otherwise.
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I am a firm believer in MPA (Magnetic Pellet Alignment) + Total Ammo, it lets be bring the funny nuke overclock without being stressed for ammo nearly as much.
cant wait for Cryo cannon breakdown from you, I think it would be such as interesting, there so much to talk about this weapon!
especially I want to hear your opinion on Ice Storm 11112 build,
since almost every driller who using cryo - go Mr.Freeze build, and then actually killing bugs with secondary or othe utility
the Ice Storm allows to annihilate every common bug on its own, + you basically become invulnerable from melee attacks while you holding m1 cause Cold Radiance on tier 5 don't get effected by freeze power penalty, which means you still can freeze stuff!
and you have quite good ammo economy for drillers primary (of course if you not going for tier 3 increase flow rate)
The man, the myth, the legend
Idea for rebalancing:
Give the warthog 8 base damage
Replace bigger pellets with a small ammo mod
This would make the warthog better early on meaning more people would enjoy using it, armor breaking would actually do something useful, and people who use loaded shells religiously such as myself still get an option for ammo.
great to see you back!! looking forward to more content, you are the best DRG content creation on youtube imo
These videos are always great
Glad you talked about turrets, appreciate it
Good stuff as usual. You always go all out with the numbers, and despite my love for all forms of mini-ammo, I do agree that minishells is hardly any different from just taking practically any other OC and taking the ammo mod. Mini shells is kind of amusing when you also go full-auto Miner Adjustments, but really, Lightweight Mags does the same thing with an amusingly fast reload speed instead of a bigger mag.
Fantastic and informative video! I’ve always wanted you to do one of these for the autocannon since some of the OCs seem to have such minute differences that it comes down to preference while others completely change the gun for the better
Another banger video from the king himself. Thanks for making such great content
These breakdowns are so good! I'm dying for one on the Driller primaries
Noticed the Spelunky background music: nice 😎
The armor break calculations for shotguns reminds me of how crit chance in New Vegas and fallout 3 worked in the same way, with every pellet rolling for extra damage individually. I wonder if we can bully-er, politely charter, ghostship for critical damage on the warthog.
I missed those videos so much
Best DRG content on YT.
Thanks for the guide. I was a Mini Shells enthusiast cuz I like to be able to spam turret whip and still have plenty ammo to clear packs of grunts myself when moving. Hearing that LW Mags is similar pool and can still one shot more efficiently is a clear winner (wasn’t aware I was missing out on 1 shot potential lol…)
I honestly think they both still have the same level of efficiency in-game. Even with OC-less warthog I still use 2, sometimes even 3 shells on a single grunt because of how the human brain works (you can't expect to land 7-8 pellets on average on a grunt's head, especially on higher hazards), and switching to mini shells from cycle overload didn't change the shots to kill count all that much, except now I don't have to worry about running out of ammo as often as other builds.
Mini Shells is still quite bad at DPS and dealing with larger targets, but the +84 ammo gained allows you to spam turret whip without worrying about your damage all that much. You can go balls out and choose ammo bags for turrets if you're insane.
Great choice with the spelunky ost
You make quality DRG videos mate. Keep up the good work 👍
surprised you didn't mention taking t2 ammo on cycle overload. I tried it out of curiosity and my impression is it's a good alternative to the mini shell niche (not caring about your ammo), but for if you want to sacrifice effective range instead of sacrificing damage.
Nothing wrong with it, just not my preference and not exactly as noteworthy as "the biggest burst dps this weapon can do". There's other builds that are perfectly reasonable that aren't shown(like loaded shells LWM or -recoil MPA), just not gonna show every combination for brevity's sake.
I love these kind of videos, keep up the good work
Minishells works very well with the vampire perk, the grunts it doesn't get in one shot are primed and ready for a bonk'n
Was watching this before bed on my phone. Heard the horn part around 21:49 and jumped awake. Fuck.
Amazing video. I learned a ton from it. Thank you and keep it up.
Ok stunner was also in my first 10 overclocks, on top of ECR. Definitely gonna have to play engie.
my fav build is 12221 magnetic pellets and I only ever play with the warthog, just love the gun.
I dont bother with animation cancelling even on haz 6x2 and I feel like the warthog's spray pattern has a specific consistency of always ~25% of pellets hitting the "inner" reticle, I can snipe spitters even at 20-30m distance with a crit
my favorite movement shooter
Mini shells covers a niche which is I can't aim well. I will usually 'never' 1tap a grunt in a face with a dmg build. If I'm off even a little bit I tend to need a second follow-up shot. Even from range this is true, so making each shot do less dmg means aiming poorly is less punishing. The other aspect is dmg from other sources. I'm when playing with other friends rarely are we super seperated. We have dmg flying around from reflecting bullets, to DoT timers, fire going off, etc. Which means bugs are usually partially damaged and not requiring full damage from my shotgun either.
Especially with engineer's double turrets, swarmer nade, Bet-C, and bosco running around even in solo a bug is rarely at full hp.
Appreciate the detail! Cheers
It would be cool for ghost shipe to buff some of the mods like hawk eye, like the new hawk eye will make your sentry target weakpoint and have 10% more weakpoint dmg
Missed you.
after 9 years in development
when i first started playing DRG i despised the Warthog as it felt incredibly weak. Magnetic alignment convinced me to give it a second try, and since the it is my favorite engie primary. I still mostly stick to Magnetic alignment, but the weak feeling from when i started isnt the case anymore as i learned how to use it effectively regardless of OC.
I had no idea turret whip was that good!
Singlehandedly the best Deeprock guy on YT.
I always liked how the shells on the Warthog are blue and the Shells on the Jury-rigged Shotgun are red.
I never liked the idea of Turret whip (or the other turret centric mods on other guns) because the idea of it just felt kinda janky to me, having to stick around your turret to use it and use your own ammo + more ammo from the turret, I guess. However, I did try it out recently after seeing another video breaking it down and have found that it is quite good. I just wish it was implemented some other way, like different turret types or something.
I'm starting to notice a pattern. Every overclock I find the most fun is labeled as ooga booga cavemen oc.
Personally I run a a c b b with MPA cause I like having Fat Boy on my grenade launcher and I needed a gun that's kinda good at everything as a result, so I built for horde killing then gave it an elite killing OC to balance it out.
The MPA fire rate stat bug has been patched as of season 4
16:22 lmfao, I have 600 hrs of DRG played and I can't believe I needed someone to tell me I don't always have to build two turrets 😅 This is going to improve my ammo efficiency so much, god dammit.
I would LOVE a breakdown for the drak and the smart rifle. I experiment a lot but I just can't get either of those guns to feel good :(
TFT2 Engi music, nice touch.
HES BACK
Worth the wait
17:23
*Mind Blown*
would love to see in depth autocannon breakdown although I am aware that it's a much simpler and less technical weapon
Minishells and turret whip seems like a good combo, no? So if I am all in on turret abuse then it seems ideal
Thanks, mang!
Ive always hated playing Engineer.
Every class has its own calling, but I've yet to figure out what engineers have.
I hate to hate on engineers, but I can't justify any praise for him
I want to love Engineer please someone prove me wrong
@@leoritchie9635he trivializes some tough rooms in On-Site Refinery missions by bridging for pipelines. Outside of the QOL his platforms bring for that and your ceiling-mining scouts, he has REALLY solid zone control. His platforms with the repellant upgrade are regarded as 2x the size they really are for enemy pathing, meaning you can completely stop enemies from climbing down the ceiling above you and funnel them off to the sides. Breach cutter has several insane AOE builds. Turrets are turrets.
TL;DR, area manipulation is his thing. A good engie can take a room and manipulate it such that enemies can only approach from a couple of specific directions. He doesn't quite have the highest single-target damage, nor the highest AOE, but outside of a Gunner's bubble shield, he's definitely the strongest to have in a holdout situation.
are you going to do this type of video format will all weapons
Where have you been I missed your videos
Can you do a video about haz5 silent swarms?
Honestly I've tried really really really reallllllyy hard to use Gemini and defender system but whenever I do I find myself just, not playing engi anymore until I switch back to MK2 and Hawkeye I understand all the arguments for it, I really do, I just do not have any fun playing with the turrets that way I'm sorry. Does both MK2 and Hawkeye need a buff? Yes absolutely, does that mean I won't use them? No I literally can't tolerate playing without them
Does this mans have a patreon or something. All this work and youtube ad revenue aint enough
Holy shmoly
just when i felt like getting back into drg thank for making these
i'm so happy you're still making these
literally my favorite videos on yt so entertaining and always makes me want to play more drg
Please do one of these for the sludge pump, the gun is so complex yet the in game info is so lacking, besides, is one of the coolest and more unique guns in the game imo.
all i know is that it is really good at eating through dreadnaught armour.
@@manboy4720 I remember the time when it was first added in season 1 and nothing had corrosion resistance, killing oppressors in seconds and dreadnought in roughly 2 minutes... Good times those were
"Drilling in the name of" on RUclips has a pretty good video on slugpump.
@@nickmclean4004 no those videos are showing the various buffs and nerfs to the weapon
@@gusfringfromfortniteuwu1648 with stat breakdowns, no?
18:04 I miss the days when the MK2 Turret with defender system use to one shot swarmers above haz 2
As an Engi main that lives and dies by the Warthog, this video is a blessing for me since the last warthog video
Imagine need 3 shotgun shots to kill a grunt. This post was made volt smg gang
@@rustycrowbar4250 I bet those smg couldn't kill a grunt with 1 shot even with OC's.
This post was made by magnetic pellets alignment
@@comradpingu5745 still its more ammo efficient and way better at croud control . post continued by volt smg gang
@@rustycrowbar4250 i like the smg. it do have some funny OC's, but nothing beats meaty oneshot headshot kill.
@@rustycrowbar4250 Please, go to 1:59.
If you need three warthog shots to kill a grunt, most likely that's a problem of the wielder, not the gun. I often need two mind you, my aim is not great, but one-shots are VERY much possible. Including on hazard level 5, with 3 others in the lobby.
Please make more videos
Well it's really hard for him. After all he is lazy - maybe.
"These things... they take time!" - GabeN
Fun trick with turret whip - Place your gemini turrets close together and shoot between them. Given only one pellet is needed to activate the empowered shot, you can have them both shoot, simplifying the cooldown, saving shotgun ammo, and increasing DPS.
I will try it, thanks for the tip 🤙
Note that this can sometimes be overkill and end up wasting ammo. If both turrets are aiming at weaker targets that would normally die to a single whip shot, then the second one gets no value. But when dealing with higher hazards, this is pretty rare, as guards and praetorians are very common
I prefer to sequence them to really lock down a choke. But I also tend to run mini-shells if I am to abuse turret whip.
@@bravoxray Hawkeye system
I'm sorry, I can't deal with limited field of view for my turrets
@@KujiArgisia Yeah at that point, using hawkeye with this strategy is a lot better.
seeing you take the time to calc armor break chance per pellet per each successive punchthrough has now allowed me to understand why you take months to make these
The shot at 27:24 is just so goddamn satisfying -- showing off the oneshot capabilities on the first two grunts and then the stun on the third, timed with the voiceover, all in one shot. That's some good editing right there.
The armor break chance for pellets feels like a build a bullet adventure.
I was just talking about engineer's primaries today, and I have to say they're all decent, but Warthog is the daily bread that gets it's job done. It's just weird that most engie's secondaries are so much stronger than the primaries, usually it's the other way around.
Well, as lazy said, engie primaries are more like self-defence weapons while his secindaries are the actual damage dealers. Makes sense for me
Magnetic pellet alignment is one of my favorite OCs. It fits really well into a "set up a shooting gallery" sort of game plan
Turret whip ammo consumption is fixed, so if you run Gemini turrets (even if you use a single turret) you can be more ammo efficient since each turret whip consumes a lower % of your total ammo.
Imo the biggest problem with ammo economy warthog is that engi is overloaded with excellent ammo-hungry bug killing options, which means if you make warthog have more ammo than his secondary and his turrets, you lose some ammo efficiency at the _resupply_ step of the process. If you soup up when your secondary and turrets are completely empty but warthog still has some leftover ammo, that's wasted ammo on the warthog that could've been replaced with damage mods, and that gets even worse if you're in circumstances that call for (and allow) double dipping. Ideally, you want all three of your weapons' ammo consumption to just about line up to make the most of your soup pods.
For a guy called LazyMaybe, this video sure does have a lot of work put into it
Lazy is slowly increasing the time between uploads so we wont notice when the next video takes 6 months
I want a gunner primary or secondary that is a shotgun. Beehive shells for the 40mm PGL would’ve been good too.
Mind doing a remaster to this video now that armor braking has been fixed?
I'll second this
Especially with the new Pump-action overclock adding more base damage and pellets - would be good to see if armor breaking is actually better than a flat +1
So happy we're getting abother one of these you honestly make the best DRG content on RUclips.
Omg I was literally thinking about you last night and was wishing you’d make a warthog video. I love your work!
Edit: Doesn't Turret Whip also have innate armor break, or is that just an explosive attribute? Personally I like Hawkeye for the range and for the Pirate-y feeling of precisely aiming a target and launching two green cannonballs of death lol
MPA + Loaded is the only way to one-shot slashers? Otherwise, being able to one-shot grunts at 25m and two-shot at 40m with MPA + Choke seems super ammo and range efficient, if running Fat Boy or Breech Cutter.
What do you think?
Also, your probability trees were so clean and organized it made me want to do math stuff.
I use Stronger Turret, Defender System, and Quick Deploy on my turret, plop it down, build it, and when it runs out of Ammo/I'm on the other side of the caves and need it again I just recall it. I personally super dislike Turret Whip since I find "Run around and meatshot anything that stands in front of me for long enough to pull the trigger" gets me killed less often than babysitting my turrets since I have horrible tunnel vision problems. Still far from a bad mod, I just prefer the Full Auto fire rate buff to shred down Oppressors / hordes / Praetorians slightly faster. Definitely my favorite gun when I need a bit more fire power than Loki can provide. I'll certainly try out Gemini system some, although I haven't used it much since before my first promotion
Minor Side note: I love how the pellet spread doesn't change when sprinting, and instead it just lands somewhere else, which disregarding Video Game Logic for a bit, really makes sense. If you're running, the barrel of your gun is probably not as steady as it could be, but nothing is changed INSIDE the gun for the pellets to spread out more.
Is the armor breaking mod worth it now with the new blowthrough overclock added to the shotgun? I can't figure this out.
Are you planning on doing a dissection of the breach cutter? No pressure but your videos are very informative and insightful, which made me reconsider how I used many weapons even after 800 hours of playing drg and breach cutter is something I've never been able to get into, although many say it's great or even amazing to a degree. Thank you for your videos LazyMaybe.
The last of the damage-boosting overclocks is Cycle Overload, which is also the most unga bunga one.
Me, a caveman: "Make sense. That why me love it. "
update on the armor break mod: as of 2/15, they’ve fixed the mod for all weapons that have it so now every armor break mod has punch-through!