The Rare ATi Radeon X1950 XTX UBER Edition
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Also love how this is a very comprehensive benchmark for the HD4000 in Windows XP Era titles.
Thank you for sharing these legendary cards with us!
Hook 4 up and use my raytracing mod in half life 2 noob.
For science.
I dont think its going to work but dx10 might.
This review was brilliant. Awesome to finally see how these beasts perform, especially on XFire.
The X Series is one of my favourite releases of all time. Ever since I got my aincient X800 which I loved. Also the X1950XTX Coolers have to be my favourite design within the last 15 years.
Budget-Builds Official I remember upgrading from a 9700pro to the x800 . Doom 3 was amazing
@@jamezxh I have both 9700 Pro and X800 Pro, though I use a HD 3850 on my AGP rig :)
Mine is sitting under a Zalman CPS9500, copper copper and copper as my mobo has heatpipes for vrm and southbridge.
Love all the copper in there
@@RuruFIN I have 2 x 98000Pro AGP plus X800Pro and X1950Pro (both already PCI-E I believe) :P
Miss the old artwork that used to be on GPU'S
Yea i miss the combat bikini elves on the old cards.
My galaxy gtx 670 had really nice art on it but due to not being taken care of by the previous owner it peeled off. It may have only been a G but it had a nice 3d look to it due to coloring that they used.
These days hardware manufacturers make components bland then sell RGB, which looks much worse than these artwork. Basically, sell more stuff for more profit rather than spend time to create a masterpiece
The G70 architecture suffered two major deficiencies, hogging the pixel-shader performance carried over from the previous NV40 GPU:
1. Large batch size of 1024 pixels made it particularly sensitive to shader code with too many conditional branches. A wrong branch would result in many cycles of flushing the pixel pipeline until the next batch is able to execute.
2. The texture unit in each pixel pipeline was wired to the first of the two main ALUs, so during a long texture operation, like anisotropic filtering, half of the pixel-shading throughput was not available, due to the fact that half of the ALUs and texture units shared the same bypass data network.
Nvidia, of course, was well aware of all this and that's why G70 featured 24 pixel pipelines, as a brute force stop-gap solution, until the much more capable G80 was ready for the market.
Certainly, those architectural limitations could be alleviated to some extent, by targeted driver optimization for specific games and apps (like 3DMark), but as the time goes it was evident that this architecture was not aging well, particularly after Nvidia dropped the performance support for those GPUs.
Thanks Ivan. We we’re talking about this over on the pixel talk discord server after I posted the video. You should join us 👍
@@Face2FaceHardware
4x MSAA quality = predication SMAA+ fidelityfx
Its texture agnostic in practice with the open source 32 bit precision intelligent sharpener very stable and massively cheaper.
Honestly hybridizing new software with fossil silicone is the prophecy come to pass my child of the PC Master Race.
It's a damn shame this channel doesn't have way more subscribers. The amount of work that must have gone into this video is staggering. So glad there's people like you that make content like this.
Thanks. Not gonna lie, definitely took awhile to make.
@@Face2FaceHardware I figured it did. That's a LOT of cards to do a LOT of benchmarks on and a LOT of charts lol.
There is the problem, all fact and no gimmicks means it won’t be as popular. You could have the best info but unless you have something that sparks attention, you don’t get attention. It is a great video, by far better than what many do, but won’t get as much exposure as deserved.
I saw the cat and I thought: Man! This channel have everything: Tech and cats.
Greetings from El Salvador!
Story Time. When I was 16 I got my first job bagging groceries, tax time came and I got 300$ back! The most money I ever had in my account at the time was maybe 100$. My mom needed rent money and without hesitation I gave her my 300$. I was a little bummed but a few months later she said thanks and she would double what I gave her since I helped her out. I had 600$ to spend and a x1950xtx crossfire was well.... 600$. It was my only chance I was ever going to get to have such a powerful gpu so I bought it and played wow at max settings :) I look on ebay from time to time and have yet to ever seen an UBER but maybe one day I'll buy it to put it in my socket 939 system I still have sitting around. Thanks for the video!
Ha, the fans at the end. Travel-hairdryer vs Industrial fan....
Absolutely love your videos. Your style is unique in the techtube space.
MOAR!
I've waited a long time for this video to come out, excellent work!
Amazing benchmark. Feels like old times already. It's as if it was yesterday. Back in the day, around the year 2008/2009 i used to benchmark FEAR and Crysis a lot. I still remember the results of the many video cards i tested in FEAR. I do not remember the settings, but the results stuck to me till this very day. Here we go:
HD2600 XT 512 MB DDR4: 22 FPS
6800XT 512 MB DDR2: 28 FPS
7600GT 256 MB DDR3: 32 FPS
7950GT 512 MB DDR3: 57 FPS
X1950XT 512 MB DDR3: 74 FPS
HD3850 512 MB DDR3: 70+ something
HD2900XT 512 MB DDR4: 80 FPS or a bit more
8800GTS 320 MB DDR3: 80 FPS or a bit more
9600GT 512 MB DDR3: 88 FPS
8800GTS 640 MB DDR3: 88 FPS
9800GT 512 MB DDR3: 96 FPS
8800GTS 512 MB DDR3: 112 FPS or very similar
HD4830 512 MB DDR3: 112 FPS or very similar
9800GTX+ 512 MB DDR3: 130 FPS or a bit more
HD4850 512 MB DDR3: 134 FPS
HD4870 512 MB DDR5: 165 FPS
HD2600XT was THE MOST disappointing video card i ever had since 2003 till this very day. It was ABYSMAL shit. All video cards were slightly over-clocked, too. I had more cards, just don't remember the results. But i never had X1950XTX, which i probably consider to have the most beautiful cooler of all time. In July 2007 i bought HD2900XT, but it turned out to be only slightly faster than X1950XT, which i actually bought way later, and was blown by it's performance, because it was on par with HD2900 PRO.
Oh yeah now I remember I had a 2600XT which performed horribly in ES:O. After a while I upgraded to a 4870.
Only seeing this bench of yours now I fully understand why I nearly cried joy when I loaded ES:O with the 4870. Glorious.
My path was: some OLD card > 2600XT > 4870 > GTX 970 > very recently, used 1080ti for $300 which was maybe my best purchase yet.
I came from a Radeon 9600 Pro to the HD2600 Pro to the HD4830 to the 7770 and finally to the RX570.
The 4830 performance jump was so big for the money I bought it for. The 7770 was the longest I've had a card for though. My 2600 was disappointing compared to my friends' 8600 and 8800s but IMO Radeon cards had better color and image quality vs geforce cards (and still does for me).
Thank you for including the HD4000 into the tests. I’ve always wondered, how performs modern(ish) integrated gpus against older monsters.
I love your channel. Thanks for making these videos.
Wow, classic ATI goodness! Glad I found this channel. I remember wanting one of these X1900 series cards so bad back in the day. It's amazing how well they hold up and would be a great choice for a Windows XP retro gaming build.
I still have my Ati X1950 XTX (with a Zalman cooler)......loved that card :)
It was my very first high end gpu.
This right here. Right in the feels! Thank you sir!
love these old card vids...keep it up x
This is a very nice compilation thank you!!!!. Esta es una bonita compilación muchas gracias!!!
Cool video! Glad I found this channel.
I had a X1950Pro at the time it was released. Holy shit, it was an insane bang for the buck card.
Didn't even remember these Uber editions.. X1950 XTX is something I'd love to get to my collection :)
Man, I miss videocard fan shroud art :(
Amazing and really well done review.
great video ! love the x1950xtx cards
What a monster video this is! Awesome work Mike, really cool to see all these cards in one chart. Also those Ubers look mint!
The GTA IV gameplay is for you 😁
@@Face2FaceHardware Haha I knew it !
@@Face2FaceHardware Ah thank you :D I was surprised to see it :p
Would love to hear the fan volume comparison 🙂
Last videocards sound just like a vacuum cleaner... 😂😂😂
Oh,Man i loved this design !!!!
Even,had 1950 XTX .
Be careful with fan x-shaped mount.
It can easily shortcut to pcb,and did so in my case......
Sucks you don't make videos often (obviously isn't a full time gig though, so understandable), but you're definitely one of my favorite hardware you tubers. Can't wait for the next one! I can see why the videos take so long, the quality is top notch
Thank you Alex. It means a lot!
Ahh the relic of the Radeon golden age. Back when ATI (not AMD) was winning. This was the card you wanted to run Oblivion with. I had the 1800XT. Back then, Radeon was the only card that could run the new HDR lighting technique and anti-aliasing at the same time. Nvidia's GPU couldn't do that. It had to be either AA, or HDR. FYI don't get confused with HDR, as in the new panel standard, but rather the lighting technique that had first made an appearance for Half Life 3 - Lost Coast.
Looking at the 1% lows, 8800 gtx is on another level. I have its small bother, still works (hasn't had much use compared to all of my other cards). Gaming until midnight everyday after school 2008-late 2009.
I love the transparent case of the old gpu
Wow i remember this AMD card when i was young. I miss old pc hardware designing
Oh man I love this video !
I remember seeing these for the longest time in Gamedude in Australia. I wanted them so bad but when I finally saved up I ended up getting a pair of 8800GT 512MBs in SLi the following year. I still kinda want the 1950s tbh :)
Saw just recently on eBay,wanted to get it,but,took a look - it was a version with 256 mbt,not the XTX ......
I was trying to go for either the 1950 or the 7950. I bought the 1950 then shortly after the 88GTX came out.
I had 2 X1900XTX cards in SLI during this time and they were absolute beasts. I then upgraded too a single BFG 8800GTX and the performance difference was insane not to mention no dual gpu issues.
Also the 8800GTX was the first 100% unified shader engine but the X1000 series was the first to attempt it. The X1900 cards had 48 unified shaders (which could do pixel and vertex operations) and 8 geometry processors. Whereas the 8800GTX had all pixel, vertex, and geometry pipelines inside their 128 shader cores.
Man this video brings me back to when I was running an Athlon 64 X2 5200+ with my trusty old 8800GTS 640MB. Looking at the benchmarks it's cool to see how well Crossfire scales in older titles. It's a shame multi-GPU setups aren't really a focus anymore. Also that fan spin at the end is just glorious haha.
This video shows you the opposite. the frametimes and microstutter is so horrible it was basically useless. I tried SLI back in the day and went back to single GPU forever, it was that bad. It was only good for benchmarks because back in the day reviewers ignored the question "is it really smooth and plays well", they just focused on the average numbers. Over time both camps tried to resolve the issue and it generally got better but it never really worked well. AFR rendering had to die it was not the way to go. The only multiGPU that worked well was the old SLI from 3DFX or the chessboard style trough buffer chip that 3Dlabs used on their profi cards.
Had the 8800gts 320mb here 😋
There is multi-GPU setups, more than ever. Mining ... ;(
Beautiful cards, miss the ATi days. :)
Looking forward to the Lyft version 💯
Damn do I miss the days of awesome stickers on the shrouds and the wacky designs. Nowadays most computers look the same.
Wow the 8800 GTX is sometimes triple the performance of the 7900 gtx that was released only months before! Well worth the money if you bought it from day 1! You can still play new games that support DX10 on it incredible. You can only wish for that kind of jump nowadays
Cheeki breeki boris would approve.
I really like these rare hardware dissections that you do, it seems that the "bigger" tech RUclipsrs only really view the here and now rather than more historical components. But is there any reason you keep using fsp psus over a seasonic psu?
Thanks. I’ve used FSP PSUs for awhile, but I own many other PSUs, including Seasonic in my other machines. The main reason you continue to see the FSP PSU is because it was sent for review, so it’s now my dedicated test bed PSU. It’s been solid thus far.
@@Face2FaceHardware ah I see, thanks for the reply!
I kept my 2900 XT throughout all these years, it should work, as it's still in an anti static bag :)
It was loud, like, L O U D.
>uber
are we in 2009
after watching for a minute, turns out yes
Would like to know if this R580 chip works on linux nowadays.
It would be nice seing a very old card working with wine much better than windows xp counterpart.
Excellent videos, I love your stuff, I have an issue, now I am watching your video, I have an old Dell Precision 390 stored, so I decided to upgrade it and play some older titles just for fun, so I installed a 240SSD, 2Tb HDD, change its quadro 4000 for a newer RX550 (4GB) and a better CPU Xeon X3230 (775) it runs so much better than the previous specs it has but in some games as Planetside 2 or GTA IV, Deus Ex Mankind devided, etc. it looks to have some trouble I dont know and dont think it can be a driver issue because the card is up to date but that quadro can game better than this newer card
Poor G7x... They won't be able to sit for a month after that ass whoopin'.
Now that is a nice collector's edition gpu.PS that Cats blue eyes ^^ damm like an alien :D
Hmm that nostalgia and techdemos when these GPUs were new and proud. Actually watching this video on an ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe with Xeon X5470 @ 4.4GHz 1.35Vcore, 2x4GB RAM 1466MHz CL8 1.5Vdimm, 256GB SATA SSD, USB NVMe Drive, 144Hz Samsung C27HG70, nvidia MSI GTX 1660Ti Gaming in Corsair 220i RGB case. Running great like a new computer. 867Mbit Wifi-AC card, USB 3.0 card :P
ATI the legend.
Man, look at the difference between the 7900 GTX vs the 8800 GTX, Absolute staggering difference.
Even to this day, many people will say the same exact thing:
The performance increase from the last generation, there will never be another 8800 GTX again.
This video is f****** awesome!
Something worth noting: While yes, Intel iGPUs *can* allocate up to 1GB of system memory for use as VRAM, in my personal experience, they never break the 200MB mark, even when that extra "VRAM" could be put to great effect.
they look soooooooooooooooooooooo goood
You have to admit this card looks pretty badass.
I remember this cards i had a 8800gtx my friend had 2900xt they where real beasts at the time.
8800gtx had no problem runing GTA IV, crysis on high settings, FEAR, Rainbow six Vegas.
I think it was a call of duty 4 when i bought a stronger card 9800gx2.
The Beautiful Video Card
I had a one of these back in the day, today i have an x1900xtx crossfire setup. So wish i just kept my hardware. Guess we can't dwell on stuff we sold :(
I used to work at EA games as a QA tech so i had access to the latest hardware. Shit only if i knew to keep so much of the classic hardware which we binned :(
No gfx card was harmed due to the carpet!!
Beautiful cards though!
Uber's sound like 747 engines getting ready for take off..you should measure the decibels and thermals and do a small video on that..very curious.
Actually, that was the X1800 XTX’s. The Ubers just gave a quick throttle blip 😅
@@Face2FaceHardware 🤣 Where can I get a set of Ubers like that..or a 2900xt.
Yessssssssss bruthaaa
That cat is super cute. :3
Can you please share a bios dump with us? I would like to get my hands on bios files and try to convert my xtxs into uber editions!
Many thanks!
Unfortunately, I know longer own these cards. I can message the new owner to see if he can upload them to TPU.
@@Face2FaceHardware Thank you for your reply! That would be amazing! I do own two xtx(one cf and one normal) and would be amazing to make the 501 cf pair. Is no bios dump anywhere on the internet so I think the new owner will be the first in history to give us the chance to keep the uber edition alive and growing!
I would really appreciate and if the new owner would ever allow the cards to bring a big smile on someone’s faces I would be more than interested to buy them!
Please let us know if the owner can give us the bios dump! ATiTool v0.26 on XP will be able to dump the bios,this is the easiest way!
Kind regards and really appreciated!
I agree; those X19xx series cards really felt like cut down unified shader cards compared to the older X8xx and Nvidia 6/7 series cards, complete with the ability to run compute programs like Folding@Home.. I had a 7800GTX, my sister had a X1950pro, i had an inferiority complex over it as Oblivion was my favourite game. The 7 series cards really just bad at oblivion, even looking at grass close just running by would turn it into a slideshow, no consistency in performance unlike the X19xx cards and of course the quantum leap g80s. Great video as always F2F!.
sadly thanks to youtube's algorithm, will likely be a slow burn on views.
great history
where is ur new 2021 vid sir? i wait for so long for new vid
Hey there, I no longer make videos. I now work for NVIDIA and it’s a conflict of interest.
Finally!
Some guy gave me an old xeon workstation when he worked for some game company in austin it it had x1950 xtxs thar looked just like them sadly o l have on card left after the last 5 years
7:57 idk man when you look at the memory bandwidth, the HD 4000 and 7800 GTX has probably roughly the same memory bandwidth.
The HD 4000(ivy bridge) also has shared L3 cache with the cpu, which cripples the iGPU performance.
Then add to that the Intel drivers for ARC which were basically lackluster for DX9-11.
You can expect that the HD 4000 no longer receives any updates and maybe the DX9 title would perform poorly.
You also can't really optimize a game for new DirectX/openGL features/ways of interacting with gpu pipeline, which allows expressing the shaders and problems in a different way, without a game update.
It's just usually with new directx/opengl/vulkan versions the effects, scene complexity is being increased alongside it, so we don't always notice the performance improvements.
Then there are openGL/directx extensions which can only be used with older graphics card, so some of the `better code` might be stuck behind what was a temporary solution, before it made it into the spec or was superseded by something else.
And the 7900 was on recommended specs when Crysis was launched :))
To be fair, this version of Crysis is slightly different from the OG back in the day. At least that’s what I’ve heard, but I don’t know much about the differences if there are any. This is the GOG version.
I still play fear it was brutal on the hd5770 with althlon X2 6400 at max settings , ie advanced settings too couldnt hold 60fps all the time , I us d to have at max settings , I'm going to try it on my gtx 1080 at 4k max settings and super sampling enabled in the Nvidia settings .
Your spacebar is upside-down
STALKER CoP is a DX11 title
I had this same card yearsssss ago i then replaced it for a Geforce 8800 GTS 640MB card which killed that x1950xtx
It gets better. When the customer woke up, his order was missing, and the Graphics Card was never heard from again!
Wait it doesn’t matter how much ram you have over 4GB since you’re running a 32 bit operating system
if you use windows XP intergral edition there is a PAE patch to use all the ram on 32bit
cool video . but, intel on bord in fact, he survived there only because he had the ability to have 1gb of vitrula ram v ram from maderbod . and it is fore 720p use .
i have an EVGA 8800 ultra, tobad you didnt throw those benchmarks in there too
I’ve done a video on it. Performance is 10% or so better vs. the 8800 GTX.
@@Face2FaceHardware ohh snap, thank you!
Only got X1950 XT.
I am sure that metal briefcase that the cards originally came with have in some point hold either cocaine or the moneyz to buy it.
Back when people didn't give a shit how loud their computers were.
I remember radeon being faster than nvidia at the time, but thats insane. X1950 competed against geforce 7000 cards, they are horible.
Great array of cards there.
AMD/ATI made the 3750x2. To beat the 8800, but green made the 9800gx2 to beat those.
AMD was a bit of a slow down era for the graphics, leaving Nvidia to lead the pack. While Nvidia had frames ATI had image quality.
When I gave a lingo, seen the way it's meant to be, was a direct pun against Nvidias play the way it's meant to be played.
Even the older ATI cards graphics were better. But then not all people can see the differences in benches and versions and whats different.
UBERCHARGE IS REAL WITH THIS RARE SPECIMEN
Just picked one up for my win xp pc. 19 bucks
kinda bummed out u didnt test 8800gtx SLI but hey
That will be for another video 😉
@@Face2FaceHardware just joined ur discord, keep it up hyperfam
Why didn't you just get XP 64 bit? It was pretty stable.
I did try, but It wasn’t working very well with crossfire.
shoulda had an amd hd4850 to match the 8800.. i always thought amds hd4k seres was the answer to npittya 8k
homelessEh The card matching 9800 GT was the HD 4830. Both 4770 and 4850 were faster than them.
Surely this must be the first time someone was surprised by the low performance of Intel integrated graphics. Not the first time someone was disappointed with the Intel iGPUs though.
😒👍 ATI FTW! 🐢
Excellent investment by AMD it's paying dividends for them to this day
My dude, how did you get these🤔
Local Craigslist
@@Face2FaceHardware insane find, keep them for ever!
I had the 1900xtx. Man was that thing a headache. Freakin drivers sucked. Freakin thing needed a powerful PSU and I had to buy a thermalright GPU cooler just to cool the damn thing. The stock cooler was useless.
UBER Edition. It was well known for its bad drivers :P
X1950XTX must be compared with 7900gtx tbh.
Actually X1950 XTX compares with 7950 GX2, X1950 XT with 7900 GTX, X1800 XT with 7800 GTX
That s cf cable..
that is my current motherboard, lol my GTX780 Ti died 3 days ago so im f*** up cant afford a new card so im dead !
Finewine Vs 7000 series
xp x64 would have worked as well as xp 32, i say this having used it with cf and sli, on more then one system, 7 requires tricks but, can be done, its...just a bit of "i wish amd would do better on legacy drivers"