Let's Talk Trumpet: The SECRET SAUCE for Your Valves | Homemade Valve Oil Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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In my seven years of trumpet playing, I have used several different valve oils on my various horns, although I’ve just about always used Al Cass ‘Fast’ on at least one. However, this homemade oil recipe courtesy of my private instructor Larry Jess takes it to the next level for me.
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SOMETHING TO BEAR IN MIND: depending on how much CLP you add, the valves may slow down and need cleaning once every month or so. This valve oil performs very well but demands a bit of work from the player. However, if you are able and willing to put in the work, the rewards are quite significant.
CLP is great.
@@RobertCardwell CLP is often a misnomer... its not a specific product and just a label attached to gun oil that stands for "Clean, Lubricate, and Preserve/Protect"... even though the OP uses the brand "Break Free" that's recognized for their military use.
If you use it in lower-humidity environments then it will simply going to collect dust and grime... if this is the case then you just need to go with a small amount of very thin oil as needed and/or use an amount that is significantly smaller... and keep in mind that humidity fluctuates with the seasons as well.
I’m a little curious: if this oil demands a little more work from the player, what are the advantages?
@@bobbyv5844 Faster and smoother valves. Also, it was my private teacher who warned me about “more work,” but in the years since making this video, this compound has required no more maintenance than standard Al Cass. Also, it’s extremely cost-effective since the ingredients can be bought in bulk and aren’t marked up like crazy for having a music label on them. I believe this compound has almost solely advantages and few to no disadvantages.
Spot on!
Your formula is very similar to what I use. Since I have a number of vintage horns, I have been making my own for years.
When making your own you can customize it to your needs...and not just "buying" into the marketing.
Great content Sam!
Thank you TL! Glad to see others making their own custom formulas.
Transmission fluid works well. I use a mixture of blue juice and ATF.
This actually helps to save money, Computing the Lamp oil and the Cleaner oil cost less to all of the oils that would be bought and consumed. Thankyou!
It is indeed a very budget friendly option! Glad I could help!
Ultra Pure Oils. I haven’t been held back at all by valves, slides, or anything involved with trumpet maintenance since I’ve discovered this fantastic company. It also smells good and has a giant bottle with a nice dispenser
I use ultra pure and seriously NEVER have to oil my valves it’s amazing stuff
Pardon the very untimely reply. I've owned a John Packer JP-274S euphonium for two years and change. In that time I've fully dried out the provided Ultra-Pure oil bottle. The valves on my Packer are the only aspect I've ever had a significant issue with; I found myself oiling them before almost every use to try to get them to about 90% functionality. I found that as soon as I ran out of UP and switched the horn over to the 'secret sauce' described in this video, the valves would move *much* faster and the oil lasted for longer periods of time. I still insist that the secret sauce outperforms just about anything on the market, especially the snobby and unfailingly upcharged synthetic compounds.
This is really cool! Thank you for sharing!
Al Cass oil was around back in the 1970s. To my best recollection, all of the kids in our trumpet section tried it, including myself. Nobody liked it. We all thought it was too thin and watered down. Holton was our preferred oil. It was thicker, lasted longer, and gave far better results.
Al Cass must have changed their formula, because I now find it *too* thick for modern valves. This custom formula maintains smoothness and lasts quite a while but is thinner and gives the valves a nice springy feel in comparison to Al Cass. Interesting story, though! I certainly hadn’t expected it.
I would SERIOUSLY recommend you look up the hazard warnings on CLP gun lubricants.
I get its 10 drops but..... consider your actions when taking a breath playing the horn.
Aspiration hazard, Category 1
Serious eye damage/eye irritation, Category 1
Skin corrosion/irritation, Category 2
Do not breathe dust, fume, gas, mist, vapors, or spray.
InhalationMove to fresh air. If unconscious place in recovery position and seek medical advice. If respiratory irritation, dizziness, nausea, or unconsciousness occurs, seek immediate medical assistance. Remove from further exposure. Immediately call a doctor
Aspiration toxicityMay be fatal if swallowed and enters airways.Substances known to cause human aspiration toxicity hazardsor to be regarded as if they cause human aspiration toxicity hazard.
Here’s the trouble: you’ll find similar or identical hazard warnings on most stock valve oils like Al Cass, as far as I can remember. This recipe has been used by my private instructor and professional players in Vegas for many years with no issues, so I think there’s little more risk involved than with stock valve oils.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass prob correct... just think that all should be aware of the possible issues using CLP
@@MrKco63 The occupational hazards of being a trumpet player, I suppose
@@SamuelPlaysBrass among others....
I have 2 old horns with the springs on the bottom . I gummed them both up using monster . I’ll try the Al Case first after cleaning them.Thanks for the info
Sorry to hear Monster didn't live up to your expectations. Al Cass went out of business just a year ago and was acquired by another company, so while I generally liked the old Al Cass formula, I can't testify to whether it's still being used as-is or if it was changed at all.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass Thanks Sam.
If the basic recipe for general use is 10 drops of CLP to every ounce of lamp oil, does that mean for an older horn with looser tolerances in the pistons the recipe might be 15 or even 20 drops of CLP for every ounce of lamp oil? Meaning: to make the valve oil thicker, add more drops of CLP. To make it thinner, add less drops of CLP down to a minimum of 10. Yes? No? Thanks.
Here's the dilemma: I don't know if the CLP is actually more viscous than the lamp oil. I do know it eats away at some of the residue, and frankly, residue buildup on looser pistons can be a good thing, so I doubt you'd want to up the CLP proportions.
As for me, I only use this formula on tight-tolerance valves. I do have several vintage instruments with loose valves, and frankly, for those I use Yamaha trombone slide lubricant and am willing to sacrifice 5-10% of the speed for a better seal around the valve.
You know I’ve found chocolate milk to work wonders as a lubricant for my valves, been a total life changer
Brilliant! Choccy milk can solve anything.
i can't open it, i need help please 😭
I know my question is not about the video...
But how do I get rid of sore lips or at least that I'll be able to play for more time with no lip problems?
Thanks
The key to not wearing yourself out is to make the airstream do more of the work so that the lips can do less of it. If you compress the muscles in the lower abdomen, this will speed up the air and allow you to use less mouthpiece pressure. The second a trumpet player's airstream is not well supported they begin to squeeze the mouthpiece against their face.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass ok, thanks
But will I see results after the first few times or will it take time?
Nothing is immediate on the trumpet. Everything takes time and diligent practice.
Would it be safe to mix with any dyes or food coloring?
I'd be extremely cautious of doing so. Generally you want to avoid residue in any way possible.
Can I drink the secret sauce?
Absolutely. Make sure you drizzle it on your pancakes. We don't call this the secret *sauce* for nothing.
only once. maybe twice
it'll last you for a lifetime. (one time)
I find wd-40 works great. Jk never try that😂😂
A kid at school did that to his trombone slide one time and he passed out
...interesting video, but no thanks - I will be sticking to the regular Al Cass "Fast" oil.
Yeah, seems a worrisome. Also, I don’t want to be purchasing gun cleaner 💀. Anyway, if you ever consider trying something new, try la tromba t2. It’s so goood!!! It helped my highschool horn so much. Now I’m in college, and I’ve tried a good amount of valve oils, and T2 is the best I’ve ever tried. They have a wide variety of valve oils as well to fit different needs. I’ve never met a single person who’s tried it say they dislike it.
And now add some blue food coloring and you have yourself...
Blue Juice, oh wait that exists already, darn :/
LOL, I’m gonna make pink juice