I have seen enough people make their first resin pour to know that it always fails no matter their talent. The best advice is to not pour resin over something you are too sad to lose when you try it for the first time.
Reminds me of The Day After Tomorrow! If you've never seen it, look up the poster. I imagine this is what it looks like under the snow, genuinely a super cool "mistake"
We all hate it when something goes wrong, especially when it's random and down to a product. That it happened on the last step after all that lovely work is awful, kudos for putting this out here to show even the best of us have these random disappointments. I had a screwup not too long ago and have to restart with all new models, I really appreciate you allowing me the feeling that it's not just me ;0)
Hah! The resin was poured too deep for this type of resin. I should have filled up only to a couple of cm and once that had cured, poured another layer. Resin gets hot when it cures. The bigger the mass the hotter it gets. This pretty much started boiling.
@@52Miniatures came here to say this!!! i have had this happen so many times cause i wasnt paying attention or thought oh its fine.... its not fine lol
One, make sure that it's properly sealed, two use a vacuum chamber to remove bubbles, three try to strategicly pour the resin to get that least amount of air pockets
4 and should be number 1: make sure the resin you are using is for your needs... i.e this should have been a deep cast resin used, it wasnt, so it flash cured and thats why it got ruined. if not using a deep cast resin, always always always, pour in half inch or lower layers.
I see some people have told you to test with water, I would like to add perhaps sealing the bottom first (let it cure all the way) with a thin layer first and let that dry before you add the rest some products off-gas when they chemically react to resin. That super then layer to seal everything lets the gas escape easier. Hope this helps and I hope you try again it looked amazing.
was it particularly hot when you mixed the resin? not sure exactly which resin you used but I believe for polyester and vinyl ester resins that use MEKP as a catalyst the amount of catalyst required depends on the ambient temperature. Less catalyst for hotter days, more for cooler days, and if you put too much catalyst it'll overheat
You need a deep cast resin. Most hobbyist resins will not poor deeper than a 1/2” lift. The reaction is exothermic and will literally cook with that much mass like this did.
I can see what went wrong but it also looks kinda cool, like after years, the land the ruins were on broke from the mainland and plummeted into the sea. Can't wait to see the video behind the diorama :)
This reminds me of the last couple miniatures I did for my Horus Heresy army where I was gluing cork to the base for my basing. I used super glue to attach. You could feel the heat coming off of it and the fumes were visible and I didn't use very much. I started putting them someplace else to set, because all it takes is one time of those fumes getting in your eyes.
I make yesterday 4 time a watertest... And today 3 times... Now everything is ready for the resin. What a fight with a A2 Diorama. My cellar looks like secend world War.
The resin reacted to something, or there was just to much of it. It basically started to boil. There was smoke 💨 and it was so hot it burnt some of the paint. As a result the hot glue melted… but this was more an effect and not the cause of the problem. The cause of the problem is still slightly shrouded in mystery.
@@52Miniatures I see ... There are some resins that are not supposed to be poured thicker than 2-3 cm. I think if you pour those too thick/deep, the heat from the exothermic reaction can't dissipate and it starts to "boil" - like you said.
So two things- you are using the wrong type of resin. It’s advertised as quick setting when what you want is something with a long cure time. 2- pouring too much in 1 sitting
@@52Miniatures look ofchemical reaction, in my experience, was resin reacting with styrofoam. Got similar problem once. Especially if resin got fully hardened too fast. Reaction made high temperature, so melted glue. Everything fits mentioned reaction. Try use plaster on the bottom, or mix of plaster with (I have no idea how to write this in English) blended/grounded paper pulp. Resin then have nothing to react with 😁
Hi Alex, when I saw this video I thought "mmh.. I think I know what he said, when the resin poured off.. But I don't think he can repeat it in the video.."
More like you ruined your own diorama by not using the resin properly. I'd say your mixing ratios for the two parts were off and you should have done it in smaller layers and used a heat gun to remove bubbles
@@52Miniatures I was excited to see the end affect and all the bubbles just obscured the diorama. I know you will come back with something amazing in the next video.
@@charlesduncan318 I still think it was pretty cool even 'ruined.' Even if he hadnt restarted it was still a learning experience, and its your attitude towards setbacks that turns them into positive experiences or not, hence 'happy accident.'
I wonder if things like this is why @Squidmar uses a pressure pot? I know nothing about resin and am too new to try anything as of yet. But I do have some cool ideas.
Pressure pots reduce bubbles on good pours. He added too much of the wrong type of resin at once and it got hot enough to boil. There are tricks with a freezer that can make it work, but a pressure pot wouldn't do it.
Yeah, the pressure pot is to reduce bubbles. My issue was due to witchcraft probably. And witches are darn difficult to catch and put in the pressure pot.
Always do a check with water before pouring resin. Makes sure it’s completely dry when you actually pour. It helps a lot.
A lot of methane comes up from the bottom of the sea. I'd say it's legit!
I have seen enough people make their first resin pour to know that it always fails no matter their talent. The best advice is to not pour resin over something you are too sad to lose when you try it for the first time.
Pour sharky!!!
"Learning from experience. Finding out something after you needed to know it."
I’m very much in favor of this
Word!
Reminds me of The Day After Tomorrow! If you've never seen it, look up the poster. I imagine this is what it looks like under the snow, genuinely a super cool "mistake"
I think I remember that image! Not seen the film but the poster does come to mind :)
except the ice formation was horizontal...not vertical...but, still cool.
We all hate it when something goes wrong, especially when it's random and down to a product.
That it happened on the last step after all that lovely work is awful, kudos for putting this out here to show even the best of us have these random disappointments.
I had a screwup not too long ago and have to restart with all new models, I really appreciate you allowing me the feeling that it's not just me ;0)
I think mainly I was surprised and a little scared. Can resin explode? Was this my last brushstroke? Fortunately not. So I could paint up a new one :)
Tell us what went wrong and what you changed to prevent it from happening again! Share your discoveries! Be our sensei lol
Hah! The resin was poured too deep for this type of resin. I should have filled up only to a couple of cm and once that had cured, poured another layer. Resin gets hot when it cures. The bigger the mass the hotter it gets. This pretty much started boiling.
Ah yes, science. Thank you sensei.
@@52Miniatures came here to say this!!! i have had this happen so many times cause i wasnt paying attention or thought oh its fine.... its not fine lol
My last deep split a 1/4 “ crack right through the middle! I salvaged it but you can still see the crack line in the finished product.
This hurts, so much effort that can’t be saved
You maniacs… you blew it up! 🙊🙉🙈
boom :)
Man this is brutal to watch. Ive been there woth resin and its heartwrenching to see your hardwork fall apart before your eyes.
Is that resin rated for a pour that deep? It looks like it got too hot
Yeah, It's poured to deep. I thought it might be okay given the relative small size... but I was wrong.
One, make sure that it's properly sealed, two use a vacuum chamber to remove bubbles, three try to strategicly pour the resin to get that least amount of air pockets
4 and should be number 1: make sure the resin you are using is for your needs... i.e this should have been a deep cast resin used, it wasnt, so it flash cured and thats why it got ruined. if not using a deep cast resin, always always always, pour in half inch or lower layers.
I see some people have told you to test with water, I would like to add perhaps sealing the bottom first (let it cure all the way) with a thin layer first and let that dry before you add the rest some products off-gas when they chemically react to resin. That super then layer to seal everything lets the gas escape easier. Hope this helps and I hope you try again it looked amazing.
That has been my general experience with that resin brand
What Brand ?
I will not be getting that specific brand again. Blame it on the resin! 😂
Too much resin in one go. Layers.
Yes, I was thinking maybe this was a flash cure? I haven’t seen it in action before though.
was it particularly hot when you mixed the resin? not sure exactly which resin you used but I believe for polyester and vinyl ester resins that use MEKP as a catalyst the amount of catalyst required depends on the ambient temperature. Less catalyst for hotter days, more for cooler days, and if you put too much catalyst it'll overheat
This was probably mainly about depth / mass. I’ve been reading up online on the resin and it seems to not want to do anything more than 2cm deep.
You need a deep cast resin. Most hobbyist resins will not poor deeper than a 1/2” lift. The reaction is exothermic and will literally cook with that much mass like this did.
Spot on! thanks
So frustrating. Yet trial and error has always been the way forward in creating a masterpiece.
ohhhh exothermic reaction ... I am releasing a video on this very subject tomorrow. Did you start over?
Nat! I started over but with another idea. I didn’t have enough resin for another pour, so.. yeah
@@52Miniatures Ahh shame, looked very cool!
I learnt that if you submerge it in boiling hot water you can slowly peel and crack off the hardens resin
Great tip, thanks Jack
The bubbles around the statue made it look like it just sank which was a pretty cool effect
Looks like a non deep pour resin problem. Happened to me the first time I used resin. I used coating resin for a deep pour and it was not good!
Do you really want to hurt me.... do you really want to make me cry?
I know the details are lost but it still looks amazing, as if a piece had fallen in the water and made the bubble come out
I can see what went wrong but it also looks kinda cool, like after years, the land the ruins were on broke from the mainland and plummeted into the sea. Can't wait to see the video behind the diorama :)
Yeah, it does look cool… but is so not what I was going for :) I hope you’ll enjoy the final result
Can t wait for the final diorama video.
Yep happened to me the first time too. Too much likely based off brand so it super heats. Smaller layers, less oxygen and bubbles using a lathe
This reminds me of the last couple miniatures I did for my Horus Heresy army where I was gluing cork to the base for my basing. I used super glue to attach.
You could feel the heat coming off of it and the fumes were visible and I didn't use very much. I started putting them someplace else to set, because all it takes is one time of those fumes getting in your eyes.
How hope you complete your diorama again without no mistakes.
Honestly, resin terrifies me. The idea of spending hours on a project, just for one of several factors to destroy it at the last step. Yikes
Agreed!
Hate it when that happens
It's always hard to know if you hit a like button on something so tragic.
You can think of it as - “I like that shark!” :)
Ouch! At least you did not give up! Well done!
I know! The new outcome will be something different but similar :)
Honestly it would be nice if it was blue, it would look like the sea.
Was the resin ment for a deep pour?
Seems like a over heating problem
This resin does not seem to be intended for deep pours no. I know this now…
I love the way it turned out it looked so real!!
Thank you Savanna
@@52Miniatures your very welcome
aww that;s a shame...but it happens to us all
Very much so!
I make yesterday 4 time a watertest... And today 3 times... Now everything is ready for the resin. What a fight with a A2 Diorama. My cellar looks like secend world War.
Did you blow dry it with a lighter when you poured the water in cuz if not that would happen
damn , but it still looks good , looks like something fell in and has just settled
It's okay to make mistakes
Most definitely. They are kind of needed to progress.
Resin got hot when curing and jeopardized the hot glue seal?
Might be, that's why I usually recommend using UV resin to seal possible leak spots and hot glue for general adherence of acrylic sheet
I think the resin reacted with the paint for some reason, but the hot glue seal failed too ...
The resin reacted to something, or there was just to much of it. It basically started to boil. There was smoke 💨 and it was so hot it burnt some of the paint. As a result the hot glue melted… but this was more an effect and not the cause of the problem. The cause of the problem is still slightly shrouded in mystery.
@@52Miniatures I see ...
There are some resins that are not supposed to be poured thicker than 2-3 cm. I think if you pour those too thick/deep, the heat from the exothermic reaction can't dissipate and it starts to "boil" - like you said.
@@Nefats yes, this - in retrospect- appears to be one of those resins 😬
So two things- you are using the wrong type of resin. It’s advertised as quick setting when what you want is something with a long cure time. 2- pouring too much in 1 sitting
Ah no! Learn from experience I guess. It still sucks after all the hard work that went into it
Aye. But this is one of the things one has to go through I think :)
It's not what you wanted but I still think it looks cool af
Sorry it wasnt the resin itself hey. Poor seal and possible heat from resin making glue hot and melty.
Never really liked resin seas and glue waves
Thats insane
I dont know but i love how it turned out
But, yeah...it Destroyed the diorama lol
If one was after a underwater explosion or something like that, it would be a darn cool effect
I don't no why, but the "Result" looks very cool👍🏻
WTF... That bullshit happened!
Was there styrofoam or XPS on the bottom?
Aye, but covered with a layer of Modpodge and then texture pastes. This was most likely me choosing the wrong type of resin for a deep pour.
@@52Miniatures look ofchemical reaction, in my experience, was resin reacting with styrofoam. Got similar problem once. Especially if resin got fully hardened too fast. Reaction made high temperature, so melted glue. Everything fits mentioned reaction. Try use plaster on the bottom, or mix of plaster with (I have no idea how to write this in English) blended/grounded paper pulp. Resin then have nothing to react with 😁
@@Elminarion Thank you for the tip
now if you wanted an effect like that for some reason....you could never get it....
Happy Accidents? Still looks great!
Hi Alex, when I saw this video I thought "mmh.. I think I know what he said, when the resin poured off.. But I don't think he can repeat it in the video.."
I was actually kind of surprised and intrigued when it happened. Witchcraft! The swearing came after.
Seems like human error
I'd go berserk if this happens to me!
What caused this???
The wrong type of resin for such a deep pour. The mass is to big so the heat from the curing resin becomes so hot it effectively boiled
Just like Black Magic Craft before you.
Frozen fishies
but now it looks like some kind of sea plants
That’s a disgrace mate
It worked out in the end :) at least the “main character” was not in there.
WHY RESIN WHY
Welcome to the first pour fail club
Is there a badge?
@@52Miniatures there is, however it’s stuck to the desk with spilt resin.
Seems like he poured to much at once...
I ruined my statue of liberty diorama with resin*
I'm sorry to hear it
What really happened for so much bubbles to appear?
Too much resin in the same pour (too deep)
@52 Miniatures I never knew that.... but your creation was so beautiful even though it was small... keep up the good job.. 👍
Resin didn't ruin it... you did.
This happened to me to it was not fun 😢
Too much catalyst?
Wrong type of resin
@@52Miniatures thanks!
@@danielsan9827 It was not meant for deep pours
Vacuum
Not resin's fault, try, mess up, re-do, check you mister clickbait 😂
More like you ruined your own diorama by not using the resin properly. I'd say your mixing ratios for the two parts were off and you should have done it in smaller layers and used a heat gun to remove bubbles
Well... you ruined it, with resin
Пророчество? .....зда америке?)))) Нраица )))
Sweden! hi
@@52Miniatures hi ))
Here’s a thing the resin did nothing it was you that messed up
That was not a pleasant way of addressing a stranger.
I'm sorry
Poured too deep?
It appears so, for this resin. I did not exceed the recommended max amount.. but there was no mention of depth limitations
ahhhhh dang
🤷
@@52Miniatures I was excited to see the end affect and all the bubbles just obscured the diorama. I know you will come back with something amazing in the next video.
wtf
:(
oups
I think this is what Bob Ross would refer to as a 'happy accident' :)
? no, the work was ruined and he started over. He would not have referred to this as a happy accident.
@@charlesduncan318 I still think it was pretty cool even 'ruined.' Even if he hadnt restarted it was still a learning experience, and its your attitude towards setbacks that turns them into positive experiences or not, hence 'happy accident.'
funny
😨
Woof.
Ah, ah, defeated by Science. That's why you can't trust it!
Science is the first thing we should abolish! Well… after resin. First resin, then science.
I wonder if things like this is why @Squidmar uses a pressure pot? I know nothing about resin and am too new to try anything as of yet. But I do have some cool ideas.
Pressure pots reduce bubbles on good pours. He added too much of the wrong type of resin at once and it got hot enough to boil. There are tricks with a freezer that can make it work, but a pressure pot wouldn't do it.
Yeah, the pressure pot is to reduce bubbles. My issue was due to witchcraft probably. And witches are darn difficult to catch and put in the pressure pot.