I found the movement mechanics in the game fascinating, although a part of me felt that it was wrong. How can a 3+2 movement be longer than a six!? 😆 The difference between a charge and an assault adds so much to the game. I’m surprised that it isn’t used in other game systems. I’m looking forward to our next game.
I agree about the charge and assault making sense. I can accept that a unit might fail to make contact in a charge, but to fail the charge roll and the unit remains in place just seemed silly. The movement system includes the size of the base which is greater than a single stride across.
At Gen Con, I watched the Corvus Belli seminar. After it, I went to the exhibit hall and purchased the Winds from the North and the Core Book. The miniatures are gorgeous and I'm really interested in playing the game. Thanks for the video.
That's a game for me! A more classic fantasy approach, a lot of lore and really charming minis - even if I wouldn't be able to replicate your unique and wonderful painting style. I really enjoy to watch you while you're doing your magic with the brush. Great work and wonderful video as always. I will try to use some of the shown techniques. 😊
I got to play a demo at NoVA Open this year and I was surprised on how intuitive the rules were. I think the brighter colors work better with the orcs as they're using leathers, furs and wood for their equipment. I definitely love the sculpts they did for this game.
Sounds right up my alley. You really ripped right through painting those yet somehow maintained your fantastic standard. Cheers! Thanks for the content. -Clyde
Thank you Clyde! I mean, I did rip through them out of an “Alex” perspective. But they still got a fair bit of time spent. I am trying very hard to find “tabletop” styles that work for me though.
Im really loving these videos- I'm edging into playing and having these intro videos is super helpful to understand how war games work, the differences etc.
If Age of Sigmar didnt just invent an enjoyable game for their minis I would probably on board with this. Even though I find the price for the starter box of Warcrow a bit high for what it is
@@fenxisyeah I think it’s around $117 for the starter box. Two factions, all dice, templates, map, terrain, two sets of rulers, free rules. I spent more than that on a single AoS spearhead box :/ now I’m considering selling my AoS stuff cause I’m enjoying warcrow so much more
Except there will be the Beyound and Booster boxes like CB did for Infinity. So in the end you still pay the same as for Leviathan or Skaventide, not that different
@@alternate3787 similar. I would still say it's a bit cheaper comparing those two. But expanding into more 40k or AoS beyond their starter boxes is significantly more expensive than with CB's products.
@@jordanhenderson6344 I find Infinity to be a game with fair pricing which I wouldnt say about GW at all. I expect Warcrow to be in the same league. I just dont like the pricing of their starter sets, given the incomplete rulebooks, the cardboard nature of the terrain and the numbers and prices of expansion boxes that require the starter box
Thank you for the reminder that the answer to the Why the freaky dice? question is, yet again, it's not about me. lol It's about getting and keeping more people playing and enjoying games. Again, a lovely video and beautiful models.
Great video Alex! I get your points about Contrast style paints. I never use them as a "one shot" now, the way they flow off the brush (the best thing about this type of paint I think) makes them a perfect quick base coat to just get colour on the model and a place to start from. I sometimes struggle starting a model (procrastination and colour choice paralysis), and this is huge getting me over that initial hurdle.
Ah Alex, after a week of ups and downs with uncooperative metal wire, evil rigging line and disintegrating decals (transfers) I needed some cheering up and then you released a new video which took me to my happy place. I learned a few new things as always and have vowed to resist the temptation for the moment to start buying cool fantasy figures as I've already gone down the military war gaming rabbit hole. I even learned that pink is plebeian for magenta; it's always a good thing to expand one's vocabulary. While I suspect you sort of take this for granted given your background and experience, just wanted to close by saying how outstanding the lighting was in this video. Thanks for sharing!
Late again to replies Mark, the darn comments for that old "I don't like warhammer anymore" video keep getting in the way. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. And thank you for thinking about the lighting. It seems I've gotten viewers used to all that stuff, a few year back and every other comment was praising the "production" - now it never happens. So I'm glad to get the odd boost of confirmation as I still spend countles hours trying to make things look good :)
Rome! What a great show that was! Wonderful video Alex. I really like how all of these miniatures turned out. After your last video I have been giving Infinity a hard look, guess I'll have to put this in the queue now too. The world looks very interesting and that book looks like something I would love to flip though. Thanks!
Hello! I have see a few of your videos now and I'm quickly becoming a huge fan. I love your tongue and check attitude and you voice is like honey to my ears. You are like the “David Attenborough”of miniature gaming and thank you for the wonderful content.🤔
Glad you’re doing this! I’ve got the polar bear on preorder (before it stopped) but I’ll definitely pick up the rule book. Just trying to debate whether to get the starter set, or buy the individual factions. The wood elves and the weird inside out demony folks seem cool
As always my freind, you never fail to impress. I a single word, Professional! Your painting is always Top notch. I liked the brighter look on the orks. Looks like they would pop on the table. Fantastic. Edwin K
Your green/tan orc skin is #chefskiss. I find them typically a little unnaturally green (in as much as an orc could be considered "natural"). I suppose the orcs can be a little more wintery -- though fantasy games with geographically diverse factions always has lots of questions -- eg: Chaos Marauders fighting Lizardmen.
Great painting as always. The game looks fun as well. I don't want to be that guy, but hegemony is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable.
I started my kids playing 40k 8th edition when it released. (They had previous experience with 2nd edition Warmachine and Hordes, but we wuit when they messed up 3rd, so there was a gap, and they were very young, so don't remember anyway). We didnt mske the switch to 9th or 10th. Still takes 3 hours for 3 turns of a 2000 point game because the ADHD kid swalears she loves it, but cant keep focused. We tried Mantic Firefight and she loved it and we played a smallish learning game in an hour. The alternating activations, I'm convinced, is what did it. So i was leaning towards wanting to try this out, but you just sold me on it. Especially since theyre reluctant to try Kings of War, this being a skirmish game it might be an easier sell. (And with Ganes Workshop not veing involved, we can afford to play more than one game!)
Those are some realy nice miniatures. Corvus Belli realy seem to know their stuff. Personaly I am a big fan of contrast paints. They remind me of watercolours in traditional media. Anyways, love the video, awesome paintjob and who knows --that box does look tempting.
Stumbled across this channel while searching for Warcrow videos. It's also the last video I've watched from this channel. Let me share why. For the review of a game this vide hasn't enough content about it's gameplay, mechanics and flaws. Instead there is way to much focus on painting the minis. But this is a review of a starter set and the target audience may not even want to paint. And even if so, there's countless videos on how to get started with miniature painting better than this. I'm in the hobby for over two decades and learned painting the hard way. There weren't even washes then. Black lining was done with inks. It's like the stone age of miniature painting (that makes me sound old, doesn't it...) Anyways, it's bad manners to insult people who don't "paint the right way". There's absolutely nothing wrong in using speedpaints. Especially for folks dropping into the hobby. Painting in layers with washes, sponging or stippling are advanced techniques and they raise the bar for newcomers. You may not like the look of it. Cool have it your way. But don't insult people and call them plebs for taking a way more manageable approach. I disagree with nearly anything said about speedpainting in this video. Those paints are versatile and allow for much more creative freedom than traditional acrylics. They can produce a various range of results from realistic to strange. Depending on how they are used. The comments in this video tell more about the lack of expirience on the reviewers side than anything else. This video could have been good if it was more focused on the actual game. And since it was sponsored I hope that such a slip won't happen again.
Hello B. First of I just want to say that you come across as quite rude. Ending your comment with “I hope this slip won’t happen again” in response to a video that is completely free, that you have no stake in whatsoever and that you could just have stopped watching is a weird way of introducing yourself. I’d recommend you to find a channel that better suits your needs instead of being upset with how this channel is run. If you would take some time and check out the previous years of content on the channel you would see that it is in fact a miniature painting channel. That probably explains your personal issues with the game. For gameplay videos it’s probably an idea to check out a channel that specifically does that type of content. Lastly. I’m sorry you feel attacked by my use of the word pleb. It is in my case irony. If you indeed did not grasp that then this channel is definitely not for you.
Your English is superb... far better than my... Swedish? Dutch? But, one thing caught my ear. I hope you don't mind. It's not "prized fighters"... that would mean the fighters were very well thought of. It's "prize fighters", as in, they are fighting for a prize.
Very cool video, I like this mixed lore/painting/gameplay styel. It feels like a very organic depiction of how people experience new games. Also is this just my perception from my corner of the internet or is there an uptick of corvus belli stuff out in the wilds? Not a complaint at all, I love seeing smallergames get some press. But ot sure if the company and community have been reaching out more if its just a quirk of my algorithim.
Your Vallejo metal colours look so much thicker and workable than mine! Mine comes out incredibly watery, like a contrast paint if not even thinner. Do you or your viewers have any tricks for this? I’ve avoided the much lauded paint range for that reason despite buying much of it as part of following the hype near universal praise! Thanks again for this video, the current media blitz that Infinity and Warcrow are on has certainly piqued my interest and bank account
Mine is watery too, that's kind of the point as it is an airbrush paint I believe. I like it for that reason. It flows real well off the brush, something that I can have issues with when it comes to other metallic paints. So the thin paint is kind of why we like it :)
You know...I've been sort of kicking myself in retrospect for getting the core and mini pre-orders, because I wish i'd also gotten the rulebook. This confirms the amount of Lore and such i'd be missing out on if I hadn't 🤦 Also worth noting i'm not a mathy person either so i've avoided wargames largely, not because I can't, rally more because it immediately bores me. This, however seems far more player friendly, much like Infinity (player friendly, not easier. Important factor) I mean yes you roll dice, but even Infinity only uses a d20. It's slimline and less convoluted. I like that. Naturally the lore and minis are also top tier so definitely an all round good investment it seems. I really do find myself gravitating towards your content more and more with all this Infinity and Warcrow, I really appreciate you bringing it all here to share with us! It simply seems to make my soul happy.
Thank! I appreciate it. The lore is fun, but I’m thinking they’ll be working this game for a long time. New books and deals will most probably come along the way.
Very much enjoyed the Video! You could have explained the mechanics a bit Mode, but the contrast colors part was very interesting. I have some, but its really not my thing somehow.
@@52Miniatures yeah good point. But it's also very convenient to have someone review and explain the rules in a nice, entertaining video with a relaxing voice and some good jokes thrown in. Deep dive can then always come later. ;)
Good introduction to the game. Heard the name before, but didn't have much insight - the website is for example relatively sparse on information and pictures. I agree with the perceived lack of uniqueness and would personally prefer Infinity, but your introduction was very well done!
I was sure Warcrow would be good given they make Infiniti but now I can be confident and definitely buy the starter, the best thing about the box is it's essentially elfless. I will need to find some proxies for the dreadfully dark and flesh melting sorceror faction as we can't have bowmonkeys allowed that sort of havok. This really seems like the fantasy ttg that will tempt me away from scifi Great vid, so well conceived and presented Alex
Folyközött? (folyók között = between rivers) Maghar? (magyar = hungarian) Oramlás? (áramlás = flow, current) Embersig? (emberiség = humanity) etc. There is definitely a hungarian between the developers :D
Yes some really struggle with the speed paints. Keep trying buddy you got this. Just because others are better at it doesn't make you a pleb, you just need a bit more practice!
It’s not all that publishable I’m afraid. A lot of it is me getting introduced to the setting and game that I then condense into the video. (I.e rather boring… I mean not H, but me :)
Great video...first of yours Ive watched and now subbed. Like you i dont like the contrast type paints. Im not critical of them, I just dont like the dirty appearance of the finish of them, though i get it that some people like their stuff grim and gritty, I like my models bright and fantasy finish....i have historical gaming for grim and gritty. Im very interested in this game...particularly the more true scale approach to figures. I may well get the preorder. Thanks.
I just don't like the contrast style desaturated look. It's all that paler colour underneath filtered by the contrast colour. The transparent paint itself might be saturated but when used this way it essentially 'adds' a bunch of the colour underneath.
I really enjoyed your video despite your elitist painting attitude. :) There are many factors in the enjoyment of the a game experience, and painting is only one. Corvis Belle has a different approach to putting out products, and release schedules. I find that I don't really mind it. I will have time to read, build, paint, and play without being flooded with product. I dislike the GW business model. It is designed to be broken and they spend the life of that edition fixing the things people hate, only to out out a new edition that changes what rules are better, but there will be other parts that are now bad. I support taking more time, working harder on balance and not overwhelm the consumer. Incorporating narrative lore into scenarios is the cherry on top for me.
My problem with Warcrow is that it has no visual teeth. The world has some good ideas, but the miniatures, the product of this franchise, aren't unique. There's no fantasy there beyond fantasy dudes, and the aesthetics explored are very well-trod. I don't know all the wargames out there, but Conquest is fairly recent and burst onto the scene with the absolute strangeness of the Spires, further expanded it with one of the best Undead Faction Concepts I've seen in years, and has recently dared to go to South/Southwest Asia with the Sorcerer Kings. Moonstone has that delightfully quirky appeal of faeries and goblins and other dark fantasy whimsy bopping about. This Quar's War takes a fairly bog-standard 20th-century war setting and makes it interesting by having it all be about these strange anteater-like people, the Quar, who look very different from us humans. Hell, Warmachine, as much of a dumpster fire that has been, has the iconic imagery of hulking robots clashing with muscular behemoths! Warcrow ain't got nothing.
Agreed, i like Infinity just cause its very recognizable and unique. A cohesive model lineup with separation between factions but still seem to be a part of the same universe. I had some high expectations for warcrow but it just feel like a warcraft ripoff. Technically great looking models but as you said, its got nothing to make it stand out.
fortunitly for me most games are orriginally written in English and not have to worry about language conversions. figuring out rules in my its and my first language is already hard enough
@52Miniatures There is no term yet, aside from calling it by the company that invented the method of casting. CB use their own material blend for production using the siocast method (TAGs for infinity and Warcow entirely are produced like this). The difference between siocast and regular plastic is that sio can't be glued using plastic glue ( plastic cement) and it is more rubbery, thus you can't sand it as effectively, sometimes needing to cut the moldlines
I like the theme of Warcrow but price of the box is outrageous. Its nearly Skaventide price in my country with way less miniatures. Corvus Belli is great but prices are downright unacceptable.
In my opinion: Don't play this, just play infinity instead. There's some controversy a while ago around warcrow, what with a warcor representative that basically argued that colorblind issue isn't one even tho colorblind people have legit an issue with the game. Was so bad that the warcor was arguing that someone bringing the issue up on behalf of colourblind people they knew didn't qualify and went so far as to say someone is lying, (over an objective statement that's verifiable...). The person also felt so smug saying warcrow didn't have an issue because they remembered that the cards have a letter for the colour of the dice, as if that'd help a colourblind person tell the difference of the COLOURED dice... It was something really eye opening about how some people affiliated with CB were not on the communities side, even tho a warcor's whole point of existance is to be a BRIDGE between CB and the community. This person claimed to have worked on multiple things alongside CB, including marketing, and were going to be on a livestream with them shortly after. When someone reached out to corvus belli about the person it was met with silence, not even a generic response. It's weird because the two games are by the same people but I feel like it's completely two different teams, infinity is polished, does right by its customers and fixes issues. Support has been great. Missing parts get replaced and the process is really good. But with warcrow it's kind of been whack. Like I love CB but this shit is a mess, from illegible text due to background in boxes in the online pdf, to obnoxious usage of rules that seem to take inspiration from the worst aspects of the hobby, to making a game that's colorblind unfriendly when 1 in 12 men are colourblind. Men being a major target audience which I don't think I need to tell anyone. To proprietary bs. The interest has also been lackluster from what I've seen, warcrow reddit has 600 users to infinity's 19k, for refference new games subreddits usually get five to ten times that. I love you 52 miniatures, and I loved that you got sponsored but this is something I absolutely will speak out for. For my 1 in 12 men out there who are colourblind and get ignored by certain devs in a day and age when that stuff is an expected industry standard. I got you. Infinity is just a better investment of time and money, and the community is incredible. Like the second nicest one, next to LOTR. In my experience at least.
Hey 👋 I’m sorry to hear it. It also sounds like one person said the wrong things and that’s not right but it’s also not quite the basis for not playing a game. I hadn’t thought about the colour blind thing, and I’ll have to check all the cards again! The dice obviously have symbols on them but it would still be tricky right? I forget what colours usually mix up for colour blind. Red and green?
@@52Miniatures yeah red and green is what you'd think from red and green colourblindness but it's also usually some other colours on top, it also varies between people for example some also have some issues with orange, telling issue between orange and yellow or orange and red. The blues, indigos and purples as well my green/red cb friend has issue with. Magenta completely messes with him. What happens is that all the colours look the same to someone. So an example is sometimes I'd hand a miniature to my close friend and be like what do you think of that green cape? and he'd comment he likes it and then I'd point out that it's actually red and we have a good laugh about it. Problem isn't that it's just one person, the issue is that they are a warcor (a program you can google by corvus belli) that works with them and when made aware of the issue they chose to ignore it fully, zero reply etc. My friend who is colourblind said there is little to distinguish easily the dice and that is in fact an incredible issue. They put the letter on the cards for which color dice to use so as to help colourblind people, not understanding that if someone can't tell the colours of the dice apart then it's a useless gesture. Anyone wanting to learn more about colourblindness can go on the colourblindawareness website.
the simple solution to this all would've been not to used colored dice and just stick to d6 or d20 system. There is a lot more to consider in the wargame and i''ll be real it's a shitshow. Where infinity is a ton of depth made accessible and streamlined. Warcrow is the literal embodiment of "more is less".
@@nameisbad I agree that the experience you describe regarding the colour blindness enquiry does not seem well handled. I'll ask them myself if I get the chance. But I think calling the entire project a shitshow is maybe a bit harsh. I mean, I'm not saying it because they sponsored the video, only that I painted some of the minis and played a couple of games and I enjoyed it as one usually enjoys that kind of stuff.
@@52Miniatures Oh, I know you're a person of integrity, so no need to mention the sponsorship-I can tell you are acting in good faith. To be fair, almost every Swede I've met has been exceptional in character. That said, your experience is based on just a few sessions with Warcrow Adventures, I'm talking about Warcrow the wargame. I don't see things in black and white, so when I use the term "shitshow," I mean it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels it is. There are several issues: lack of quality control on the PDF for the wargame version, a lack of consideration for the target audience, and a Warcor who is essentially a detached representative but has worked with Corvus Belli and appeared on their streams causing a rift with some communities within the fanbase. The use of proprietary dice shows a lack of market research, as this trend hasn't been popular for almost half a decade, usually being the negative brought up by whichever games do end up doing well with them (I can think of only that star wars game tbh, oh and kill teams ruler. Both seens as cons to the games). Additionally, releasing a game with unit cards packed with information-even though they use symbols and other methods to maximize space-is counterproductive when the current wargame audience favors being able to quickly read and recognize a unit card. The industry trend of streamlining is being ignored in an attempt to seem interesting but it's really just depth for the sake of it, contrasting to infinity's actual depth and inticracy. Kickstarter fatigue. The list goes on, so respectfully, I do think the term "shitshow" is somewhat valid here. For reference, I'm a huge Corvus Belli fan and had great faith in them creating something special. But it feels like this follows a design philosophy that's so alien to what some fans wanted, almost doubling down on things that fans had issues with in Infinity. If ever there was a time to ditch Kickstarter-exclusive content, it would be now, after years of fans expressing their dislike for it. I really could go on, but I don't want to bombard you with an essay. If you do contact corvus belli, please tell them to actually have a proper look at what colorblindness is because it's clear they are working on some misunderstanding of how it works. I'm hoping my community gives warcrow another go in 2nd editon if they get rid of colored and proprietary dice, but if not, well it's a dead game already here which is hilarious since it used to be the game we were most excited for. Thankfully the market is over saturated with other games. But it is sad that such short sightedness on their part has led to such a letdown. I'm glad you like it tho, everyone has their own situation and perspective. PS: If you are up for video ideas; I'd love to one day see your take on doing a kitbash, like a proper make your own miniature kitbash rather than a shield or headswap you know? something over the top and fun or something that interests you a lot could be cool. If you are really up for something potentially out of your comfort zone, make the base a diorama and have internal LED's in the model (or both model and base. Or both). Could be fun.
@@nameisbad This is about the Wargame, the whole video is about the wargame. Anyway. I'll talk to them about the colour blindness issue when I get an opportunity. Also, did you see the "robot" thing I made a few videos back. That was a scratch build I believe. It would be fun to do some more "human" sized figures though. I need to make a force for "A War Transformed" but I'm not sure I'm up for the task of kitbashing an entire army... we'll see.
I found the movement mechanics in the game fascinating, although a part of me felt that it was wrong.
How can a 3+2 movement be longer than a six!? 😆
The difference between a charge and an assault adds so much to the game. I’m surprised that it isn’t used in other game systems.
I’m looking forward to our next game.
I agree about the charge and assault making sense. I can accept that a unit might fail to make contact in a charge, but to fail the charge roll and the unit remains in place just seemed silly. The movement system includes the size of the base which is greater than a single stride across.
She totally sold me on the concept. Genuine passion is so contagious!
At Gen Con, I watched the Corvus Belli seminar. After it, I went to the exhibit hall and purchased the Winds from the North and the Core Book. The miniatures are gorgeous and I'm really interested in playing the game. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for sharing 👍
That's a game for me! A more classic fantasy approach, a lot of lore and really charming minis - even if I wouldn't be able to replicate your unique and wonderful painting style.
I really enjoy to watch you while you're doing your magic with the brush. Great work and wonderful video as always. I will try to use some of the shown techniques. 😊
Thanks Bea!
Oh man I LOVE the adventure films! Those human infantry look awesome: the landsknicht helms are my favorite
Yeah, they are pretty cool. Looking forward to seeing more from that faction.
The miniatures alone are lovely. You painting really makes them shine :)
Thanks Z!
I'm not sure if I have room (mentally, physically, financially lol) for a new game, but this video got me pumped up.
I got to play a demo at NoVA Open this year and I was surprised on how intuitive the rules were. I think the brighter colors work better with the orcs as they're using leathers, furs and wood for their equipment. I definitely love the sculpts they did for this game.
Sounds right up my alley. You really ripped right through painting those yet somehow maintained your fantastic standard. Cheers! Thanks for the content. -Clyde
Thank you Clyde! I mean, I did rip through them out of an “Alex” perspective. But they still got a fair bit of time spent. I am trying very hard to find “tabletop” styles that work for me though.
"plebian for magenta" love it!
Great video Alex and lovely very accessible paint jobs. It will be great to see Covusbelli invest as much into Warcrow as they have in Infinity.
Im really loving these videos- I'm edging into playing and having these intro videos is super helpful to understand how war games work, the differences etc.
Great to hear!
Love seeing Warcrow content!
Love the video. It helps when you do these- you give a different perspective which is great.
Great to hear! thanks
If Age of Sigmar didnt just invent an enjoyable game for their minis I would probably on board with this. Even though I find the price for the starter box of Warcrow a bit high for what it is
There is a cheaper version w/o the hardcover book.
@@fenxisyeah I think it’s around $117 for the starter box. Two factions, all dice, templates, map, terrain, two sets of rulers, free rules. I spent more than that on a single AoS spearhead box :/ now I’m considering selling my AoS stuff cause I’m enjoying warcrow so much more
Except there will be the Beyound and Booster boxes like CB did for Infinity. So in the end you still pay the same as for Leviathan or Skaventide, not that different
@@alternate3787 similar. I would still say it's a bit cheaper comparing those two. But expanding into more 40k or AoS beyond their starter boxes is significantly more expensive than with CB's products.
@@jordanhenderson6344 I find Infinity to be a game with fair pricing which I wouldnt say about GW at all. I expect Warcrow to be in the same league. I just dont like the pricing of their starter sets, given the incomplete rulebooks, the cardboard nature of the terrain and the numbers and prices of expansion boxes that require the starter box
Outstanding video!! Gorgeous minis!!
Thank you!
An excellent review/show and tell. Bonus part is it didn't feel like an ad at all, which is saying a lot. Great work!
Much appreciated!
Thank you for the reminder that the answer to the Why the freaky dice? question is, yet again, it's not about me. lol It's about getting and keeping more people playing and enjoying games. Again, a lovely video and beautiful models.
Thanks Allison!
Great video man, game looks awesome and Love that dash of red on the minis, it really pops 🔥
Thanks as always man! 👆
Also, the orcs look so, so good
They definitely have that Warcraft orc vibe!
Cool models, cooler paint jobb and thansk for a good video! 😄
Glad you liked it!
Great video Alex! I get your points about Contrast style paints. I never use them as a "one shot" now, the way they flow off the brush (the best thing about this type of paint I think) makes them a perfect quick base coat to just get colour on the model and a place to start from. I sometimes struggle starting a model (procrastination and colour choice paralysis), and this is huge getting me over that initial hurdle.
The plague doctor/rogue model and the orcs sold it for me. I will probably be picking up the starter for the models irrespective of the rules
Yeah, I kept off painting that as I want to do something more special
@@52Miniaturesis that model a dude or female? They are armored very unisex
Ah Alex, after a week of ups and downs with uncooperative metal wire, evil rigging line and disintegrating decals (transfers) I needed some cheering up and then you released a new video which took me to my happy place. I learned a few new things as always and have vowed to resist the temptation for the moment to start buying cool fantasy figures as I've already gone down the military war gaming rabbit hole. I even learned that pink is plebeian for magenta; it's always a good thing to expand one's vocabulary. While I suspect you sort of take this for granted given your background and experience, just wanted to close by saying how outstanding the lighting was in this video. Thanks for sharing!
Late again to replies Mark, the darn comments for that old "I don't like warhammer anymore" video keep getting in the way. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. And thank you for thinking about the lighting. It seems I've gotten viewers used to all that stuff, a few year back and every other comment was praising the "production" - now it never happens. So I'm glad to get the odd boost of confirmation as I still spend countles hours trying to make things look good :)
Rome! What a great show that was! Wonderful video Alex. I really like how all of these miniatures turned out. After your last video I have been giving Infinity a hard look, guess I'll have to put this in the queue now too. The world looks very interesting and that book looks like something I would love to flip though. Thanks!
Thank man, there is indeed a lot of games out there. I guess one can’t play them all but it’s fun to keep looking around :)
Hello! I have see a few of your videos now and I'm quickly becoming a huge fan. I love your tongue and check attitude and you voice is like honey to my ears. You are like the “David Attenborough”of miniature gaming and thank you for the wonderful content.🤔
Thank you humbly Paul 👋
Glad you’re doing this! I’ve got the polar bear on preorder (before it stopped) but I’ll definitely pick up the rule book.
Just trying to debate whether to get the starter set, or buy the individual factions. The wood elves and the weird inside out demony folks seem cool
Yeah... I mean, you need to get your hands on the dice at some point.
As always my freind, you never fail to impress. I a single word, Professional! Your painting is always Top notch. I liked the brighter look on the orks. Looks like they would pop on the table. Fantastic.
Edwin K
Thanks E! 🙏
Your green/tan orc skin is #chefskiss. I find them typically a little unnaturally green (in as much as an orc could be considered "natural").
I suppose the orcs can be a little more wintery -- though fantasy games with geographically diverse factions always has lots of questions -- eg: Chaos Marauders fighting Lizardmen.
I mean, all that fur in a jungle. Can't be healthy.
Great painting as always. The game looks fun as well. I don't want to be that guy, but hegemony is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable.
I really like the paintjob on the harnesses. Trying it out as we speak.
By the way, Lyndwurm (lintworm) means tapeworm in Dutch...
Nice! 👍
You are my favorite miniature painter
Thank you humbly Q!
@@52Miniatures no thanks just the way you paint and format your videos
@@52Miniatures and how you explain stuff
I love the look of Warcrow. Ami may check it out once more non-human factions are released.
Great video, thanks for the in depth tour into the game.
Thanks Is! 🙏
Great stuff friend. Thanks for sharing your journey 👏👍🤙
Thanks Mark!!
I started my kids playing 40k 8th edition when it released. (They had previous experience with 2nd edition Warmachine and Hordes, but we wuit when they messed up 3rd, so there was a gap, and they were very young, so don't remember anyway). We didnt mske the switch to 9th or 10th. Still takes 3 hours for 3 turns of a 2000 point game because the ADHD kid swalears she loves it, but cant keep focused. We tried Mantic Firefight and she loved it and we played a smallish learning game in an hour. The alternating activations, I'm convinced, is what did it. So i was leaning towards wanting to try this out, but you just sold me on it. Especially since theyre reluctant to try Kings of War, this being a skirmish game it might be an easier sell. (And with Ganes Workshop not veing involved, we can afford to play more than one game!)
Those are some realy nice miniatures. Corvus Belli realy seem to know their stuff. Personaly I am a big fan of contrast paints. They remind me of watercolours in traditional media. Anyways, love the video, awesome paintjob and who knows --that box does look tempting.
They do have their own sculpt style and I enjoy it. It’s different from a lot of generic stl fantasy I think. Hope your well W 👋
I think this is going to be a perfect game for me and my wife.
Yeah! 👍
Stumbled across this channel while searching for Warcrow videos. It's also the last video I've watched from this channel. Let me share why. For the review of a game this vide hasn't enough content about it's gameplay, mechanics and flaws. Instead there is way to much focus on painting the minis. But this is a review of a starter set and the target audience may not even want to paint. And even if so, there's countless videos on how to get started with miniature painting better than this. I'm in the hobby for over two decades and learned painting the hard way. There weren't even washes then. Black lining was done with inks. It's like the stone age of miniature painting (that makes me sound old, doesn't it...) Anyways, it's bad manners to insult people who don't "paint the right way". There's absolutely nothing wrong in using speedpaints. Especially for folks dropping into the hobby. Painting in layers with washes, sponging or stippling are advanced techniques and they raise the bar for newcomers. You may not like the look of it. Cool have it your way. But don't insult people and call them plebs for taking a way more manageable approach. I disagree with nearly anything said about speedpainting in this video. Those paints are versatile and allow for much more creative freedom than traditional acrylics. They can produce a various range of results from realistic to strange. Depending on how they are used. The comments in this video tell more about the lack of expirience on the reviewers side than anything else. This video could have been good if it was more focused on the actual game. And since it was sponsored I hope that such a slip won't happen again.
Hello B. First of I just want to say that you come across as quite rude. Ending your comment with “I hope this slip won’t happen again” in response to a video that is completely free, that you have no stake in whatsoever and that you could just have stopped watching is a weird way of introducing yourself. I’d recommend you to find a channel that better suits your needs instead of being upset with how this channel is run. If you would take some time and check out the previous years of content on the channel you would see that it is in fact a miniature painting channel. That probably explains your personal issues with the game. For gameplay videos it’s probably an idea to check out a channel that specifically does that type of content. Lastly. I’m sorry you feel attacked by my use of the word pleb. It is in my case irony. If you indeed did not grasp that then this channel is definitely not for you.
Corvus Belli must smell blood in the water. Lots of sponsorship $$$ going out
The plebe salute you. Ave!
As soon as you mentioned the Red Fog it made me think of The Simpsons Halloween episode ending
I have no idea what I'm watching, but I guess youtube wants me to start painting those small models
Not only RUclips! Welcome to the dark side
220 euros!!! I nearly died lads.
Your English is superb... far better than my... Swedish? Dutch? But, one thing caught my ear. I hope you don't mind.
It's not "prized fighters"... that would mean the fighters were very well thought of.
It's "prize fighters", as in, they are fighting for a prize.
Nice to see Orcs look more savage than what they normally look like nowadays
Very cool video, I like this mixed lore/painting/gameplay styel. It feels like a very organic depiction of how people experience new games. Also is this just my perception from my corner of the internet or is there an uptick of corvus belli stuff out in the wilds? Not a complaint at all, I love seeing smallergames get some press. But ot sure if the company and community have been reaching out more if its just a quirk of my algorithim.
Thanks Daniel. No your quite right, Corvus Belli seem to be on a little marketing crusade
Love the CB content on the channel!
I love the look of the Orcs (both the sculpts and the paint job), but then again I am a bit of an Orc fanboy 🙂
How poetic.
Great review and minis!
Thanks so much Alex!
Thanks Lee!
Your Vallejo metal colours look so much thicker and workable than mine! Mine comes out incredibly watery, like a contrast paint if not even thinner. Do you or your viewers have any tricks for this? I’ve avoided the much lauded paint range for that reason despite buying much of it as part of following the hype near universal praise!
Thanks again for this video, the current media blitz that Infinity and Warcrow are on has certainly piqued my interest and bank account
Mine is watery too, that's kind of the point as it is an airbrush paint I believe. I like it for that reason. It flows real well off the brush, something that I can have issues with when it comes to other metallic paints. So the thin paint is kind of why we like it :)
You are correct. Rome is an epic series.
You know...I've been sort of kicking myself in retrospect for getting the core and mini pre-orders, because I wish i'd also gotten the rulebook. This confirms the amount of Lore and such i'd be missing out on if I hadn't 🤦 Also worth noting i'm not a mathy person either so i've avoided wargames largely, not because I can't, rally more because it immediately bores me.
This, however seems far more player friendly, much like Infinity (player friendly, not easier. Important factor) I mean yes you roll dice, but even Infinity only uses a d20. It's slimline and less convoluted. I like that. Naturally the lore and minis are also top tier so definitely an all round good investment it seems. I really do find myself gravitating towards your content more and more with all this Infinity and Warcrow, I really appreciate you bringing it all here to share with us!
It simply seems to make my soul happy.
Thank! I appreciate it. The lore is fun, but I’m thinking they’ll be working this game for a long time. New books and deals will most probably come along the way.
@@52Miniatures Most welcome 🙂I certainly hope so 😄
Very much enjoyed the Video! You could have explained the mechanics a bit Mode, but the contrast colors part was very interesting. I have some, but its really not my thing somehow.
Thanks! I figured since the rules are free, anyone who wants a deep dive can n mechanics can check them out
@@52Miniatures yeah good point. But it's also very convenient to have someone review and explain the rules in a nice, entertaining video with a relaxing voice and some good jokes thrown in. Deep dive can then always come later. ;)
Good introduction to the game. Heard the name before, but didn't have much insight - the website is for example relatively sparse on information and pictures. I agree with the perceived lack of uniqueness and would personally prefer Infinity, but your introduction was very well done!
I was sure Warcrow would be good given they make Infiniti but now I can be confident and definitely buy the starter, the best thing about the box is it's essentially elfless.
I will need to find some proxies for the dreadfully dark and flesh melting sorceror faction as we can't have bowmonkeys allowed that sort of havok. This really seems like the fantasy ttg that will tempt me away from scifi
Great vid, so well conceived and presented Alex
Thanks Phil. There is indeed one Elf in the starter, the Embersig mage… so you’ll have to proxy that one as well 😂
@@52Miniatures 🏹🐒🚫🤣
Warcrow! Warcrow! Warcrow!
I enjoyed your video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I can picture GW twitching into a meltdown and sending tearful letters because of Warcry closeness of name font and game.
Alex in the woods is good mood.
Hah! Thanks Michael 👋
Professional
I like your hairstyle!
Folyközött? (folyók között = between rivers) Maghar? (magyar = hungarian) Oramlás? (áramlás = flow, current) Embersig? (emberiség = humanity) etc. There is definitely a hungarian between the developers :D
No hungarian here. Only a person who loves the story of that country and think it's underrepresented in fantasy settings (among others).
Yes some really struggle with the speed paints. Keep trying buddy you got this. Just because others are better at it doesn't make you a pleb, you just need a bit more practice!
I like it!!!!
I’ll check it out
can we see full interview with hoopoe? love the content while i exist in my hobby world.
It’s not all that publishable I’m afraid. A lot of it is me getting introduced to the setting and game that I then condense into the video. (I.e rather boring… I mean not H, but me :)
Juuuust one sniff of that fog and you're inside out!
Poof 💨
Should we expect more Warcrow videos?
I dont know!? I will keep playing the game, but I dont know about videos.
Great video...first of yours Ive watched and now subbed. Like you i dont like the contrast type paints. Im not critical of them, I just dont like the dirty appearance of the finish of them, though i get it that some people like their stuff grim and gritty, I like my models bright and fantasy finish....i have historical gaming for grim and gritty. Im very interested in this game...particularly the more true scale approach to figures. I may well get the preorder. Thanks.
Welcome to the channel Andrew
I just don't like the contrast style desaturated look. It's all that paler colour underneath filtered by the contrast colour. The transparent paint itself might be saturated but when used this way it essentially 'adds' a bunch of the colour underneath.
Any way to just buy the miniatures?
It would be strange if you couldn’t as we need a lot more minis for a full game, but I don’t know when that part starts rolling out
200€+ for the bundle basic (and for what ? Ten minis ?). Now wargaming is really a luxury
The starter set is 130 right? I mean, that’s not for free either but it’s a pretty good starter box
I really enjoyed your video despite your elitist painting attitude. :) There are many factors in the enjoyment of the a game experience, and painting is only one. Corvis Belle has a different approach to putting out products, and release schedules. I find that I don't really mind it. I will have time to read, build, paint, and play without being flooded with product. I dislike the GW business model. It is designed to be broken and they spend the life of that edition fixing the things people hate, only to out out a new edition that changes what rules are better, but there will be other parts that are now bad. I support taking more time, working harder on balance and not overwhelm the consumer. Incorporating narrative lore into scenarios is the cherry on top for me.
Nice paintjobs, too
Thank you 🙏
Whats the point of these games ? To play with who?
Where?
I played a game at home with my friend yesterday. It was fun.
Did you say 300 pages of lore???
Indeed
My problem with Warcrow is that it has no visual teeth. The world has some good ideas, but the miniatures, the product of this franchise, aren't unique. There's no fantasy there beyond fantasy dudes, and the aesthetics explored are very well-trod. I don't know all the wargames out there, but Conquest is fairly recent and burst onto the scene with the absolute strangeness of the Spires, further expanded it with one of the best Undead Faction Concepts I've seen in years, and has recently dared to go to South/Southwest Asia with the Sorcerer Kings. Moonstone has that delightfully quirky appeal of faeries and goblins and other dark fantasy whimsy bopping about. This Quar's War takes a fairly bog-standard 20th-century war setting and makes it interesting by having it all be about these strange anteater-like people, the Quar, who look very different from us humans. Hell, Warmachine, as much of a dumpster fire that has been, has the iconic imagery of hulking robots clashing with muscular behemoths! Warcrow ain't got nothing.
That is why I like it. It's a simple old fantasy going for a familiar nostalgic feel. Not everything needs to break a new ground.
Agreed, i like Infinity just cause its very recognizable and unique. A cohesive model lineup with separation between factions but still seem to be a part of the same universe. I had some high expectations for warcrow but it just feel like a warcraft ripoff. Technically great looking models but as you said, its got nothing to make it stand out.
The undead Romans are indeed awesome!
These give gw a run for who can charge ridiculous prices for minis
fortunitly for me most games are orriginally written in English and not have to worry about language conversions. figuring out rules in my its and my first language is already hard enough
They are not plastic, but SIOcast
SIOcast is a company not a technical term I belive. Corvus Belli does all this in house. And regardless, it’s all plastic.
@52Miniatures There is no term yet, aside from calling it by the company that invented the method of casting. CB use their own material blend for production using the siocast method (TAGs for infinity and Warcow entirely are produced like this). The difference between siocast and regular plastic is that sio can't be glued using plastic glue ( plastic cement) and it is more rubbery, thus you can't sand it as effectively, sometimes needing to cut the moldlines
I like the theme of Warcrow but price of the box is outrageous. Its nearly Skaventide price in my country with way less miniatures.
Corvus Belli is great but prices are downright unacceptable.
I really loved the way the miniatures looked but the rules were...disappointing...
Cool, another war game
In my opinion: Don't play this, just play infinity instead. There's some controversy a while ago around warcrow, what with a warcor representative that basically argued that colorblind issue isn't one even tho colorblind people have legit an issue with the game. Was so bad that the warcor was arguing that someone bringing the issue up on behalf of colourblind people they knew didn't qualify and went so far as to say someone is lying, (over an objective statement that's verifiable...). The person also felt so smug saying warcrow didn't have an issue because they remembered that the cards have a letter for the colour of the dice, as if that'd help a colourblind person tell the difference of the COLOURED dice... It was something really eye opening about how some people affiliated with CB were not on the communities side, even tho a warcor's whole point of existance is to be a BRIDGE between CB and the community.
This person claimed to have worked on multiple things alongside CB, including marketing, and were going to be on a livestream with them shortly after. When someone reached out to corvus belli about the person it was met with silence, not even a generic response.
It's weird because the two games are by the same people but I feel like it's completely two different teams, infinity is polished, does right by its customers and fixes issues. Support has been great. Missing parts get replaced and the process is really good. But with warcrow it's kind of been whack.
Like I love CB but this shit is a mess, from illegible text due to background in boxes in the online pdf, to obnoxious usage of rules that seem to take inspiration from the worst aspects of the hobby, to making a game that's colorblind unfriendly when 1 in 12 men are colourblind. Men being a major target audience which I don't think I need to tell anyone. To proprietary bs.
The interest has also been lackluster from what I've seen, warcrow reddit has 600 users to infinity's 19k, for refference new games subreddits usually get five to ten times that.
I love you 52 miniatures, and I loved that you got sponsored but this is something I absolutely will speak out for. For my 1 in 12 men out there who are colourblind and get ignored by certain devs in a day and age when that stuff is an expected industry standard. I got you.
Infinity is just a better investment of time and money, and the community is incredible. Like the second nicest one, next to LOTR. In my experience at least.
Hey 👋 I’m sorry to hear it. It also sounds like one person said the wrong things and that’s not right but it’s also not quite the basis for not playing a game. I hadn’t thought about the colour blind thing, and I’ll have to check all the cards again! The dice obviously have symbols on them but it would still be tricky right? I forget what colours usually mix up for colour blind. Red and green?
@@52Miniatures yeah red and green is what you'd think from red and green colourblindness but it's also usually some other colours on top, it also varies between people for example some also have some issues with orange, telling issue between orange and yellow or orange and red.
The blues, indigos and purples as well my green/red cb friend has issue with.
Magenta completely messes with him.
What happens is that all the colours look the same to someone. So an example is sometimes I'd hand a miniature to my close friend and be like what do you think of that green cape? and he'd comment he likes it and then I'd point out that it's actually red and we have a good laugh about it.
Problem isn't that it's just one person, the issue is that they are a warcor (a program you can google by corvus belli) that works with them and when made aware of the issue they chose to ignore it fully, zero reply etc.
My friend who is colourblind said there is little to distinguish easily the dice and that is in fact an incredible issue. They put the letter on the cards for which color dice to use so as to help colourblind people, not understanding that if someone can't tell the colours of the dice apart then it's a useless gesture.
Anyone wanting to learn more about colourblindness can go on the colourblindawareness website.
the simple solution to this all would've been not to used colored dice and just stick to d6 or d20 system.
There is a lot more to consider in the wargame and i''ll be real it's a shitshow.
Where infinity is a ton of depth made accessible and streamlined.
Warcrow is the literal embodiment of "more is less".
@@nameisbad I agree that the experience you describe regarding the colour blindness enquiry does not seem well handled. I'll ask them myself if I get the chance. But I think calling the entire project a shitshow is maybe a bit harsh. I mean, I'm not saying it because they sponsored the video, only that I painted some of the minis and played a couple of games and I enjoyed it as one usually enjoys that kind of stuff.
@@52Miniatures Oh, I know you're a person of integrity, so no need to mention the sponsorship-I can tell you are acting in good faith. To be fair, almost every Swede I've met has been exceptional in character.
That said, your experience is based on just a few sessions with Warcrow Adventures, I'm talking about Warcrow the wargame. I don't see things in black and white, so when I use the term "shitshow," I mean it, and I know I'm not the only one who feels it is.
There are several issues: lack of quality control on the PDF for the wargame version, a lack of consideration for the target audience, and a Warcor who is essentially a detached representative but has worked with Corvus Belli and appeared on their streams causing a rift with some communities within the fanbase. The use of proprietary dice shows a lack of market research, as this trend hasn't been popular for almost half a decade, usually being the negative brought up by whichever games do end up doing well with them (I can think of only that star wars game tbh, oh and kill teams ruler. Both seens as cons to the games). Additionally, releasing a game with unit cards packed with information-even though they use symbols and other methods to maximize space-is counterproductive when the current wargame audience favors being able to quickly read and recognize a unit card. The industry trend of streamlining is being ignored in an attempt to seem interesting but it's really just depth for the sake of it, contrasting to infinity's actual depth and inticracy. Kickstarter fatigue.
The list goes on, so respectfully, I do think the term "shitshow" is somewhat valid here.
For reference, I'm a huge Corvus Belli fan and had great faith in them creating something special. But it feels like this follows a design philosophy that's so alien to what some fans wanted, almost doubling down on things that fans had issues with in Infinity. If ever there was a time to ditch Kickstarter-exclusive content, it would be now, after years of fans expressing their dislike for it.
I really could go on, but I don't want to bombard you with an essay. If you do contact corvus belli, please tell them to actually have a proper look at what colorblindness is because it's clear they are working on some misunderstanding of how it works.
I'm hoping my community gives warcrow another go in 2nd editon if they get rid of colored and proprietary dice, but if not, well it's a dead game already here which is hilarious since it used to be the game we were most excited for. Thankfully the market is over saturated with other games.
But it is sad that such short sightedness on their part has led to such a letdown. I'm glad you like it tho, everyone has their own situation and perspective.
PS: If you are up for video ideas; I'd love to one day see your take on doing a kitbash, like a proper make your own miniature kitbash rather than a shield or headswap you know? something over the top and fun or something that interests you a lot could be cool. If you are really up for something potentially out of your comfort zone, make the base a diorama and have internal LED's in the model (or both model and base. Or both). Could be fun.
@@nameisbad This is about the Wargame, the whole video is about the wargame. Anyway. I'll talk to them about the colour blindness issue when I get an opportunity. Also, did you see the "robot" thing I made a few videos back. That was a scratch build I believe. It would be fun to do some more "human" sized figures though. I need to make a force for "A War Transformed" but I'm not sure I'm up for the task of kitbashing an entire army... we'll see.
First comment Yay
I wish Warhammer could come back.
I wish it wouldn't
@@supachigga why?
Nah...Close Combat's still better!
This is the most "fantasy" fantasy out there lol. Not a single unique idea
Hope this one isn't a scam like Rivenstone was.
Rivenstone was not a scam, it was a terribly managed company