I feel like your personality adds so much value to your videos. You're a blue collar, normal dude with valid opinions. The fact that your not sponsored and have to censor what you say adds a lot of value to me, I'm sorry because being sponsored is great for you hahaha
Sure appreciate someone who has an unbiased review/opinion! A lot of people are getting free stuff and then spend a lot of time tooting their horn about how good the stuff is that they got for free! Thank you for what you do and how you keep it real :)
@@MuskokaFreerider I am from NW ON so it was just a Switchback Assault 800, 12.5 before tax so I guess about 14k total. I think the Pro RMK and Skidoo/Yamaha were more expensive.
I’m glad they haven’t. It would be overly bias if they did and he only was able to ride doo. I’d be unsubscribing if it came to that. I love his ability to bring us unbiased opinions on multiple different brands of sleds.
Perhaps this means an offseason 'sled-build' series perhaps?! Seems like a ton of potential across the current sleds you have to refresh & upgrade, I know I would watch a whole series on that!!
@@farming4gthe catalyst I built online with a bumper and basic stuff was 23k cad pre pdi and tax. You can build one up on their website to see for yourself. Pricey for NA but then again so is 9r, I think even NA 850 expert start just under 21.
It's crazy how much all toys have gone up in price, don't get me started on trucks. Yes technology has improved a lot over the last 10-15 years but prices have raced way above normal inflation.
I can't wait for the cat next year! I really hope it puts AC back in serious competition. Your review will be one of the main ones I'll be looking for.
I love the shade thrown on SnowTrax TV. No ‘25 spring order for me. I’ll be buying a leftover ‘24 Ski Doo or maybe a last year Yamaha four stroke crossover for a buddy sled. The ‘25 Expert in navy is super good-looking but the deals on ‘24s will be too good to pass up.
I tell you what I have always been a Ski-doo rider but this year my wife picked up the new 2024 Arctic Cat Catalyst M600 and all I can say is wow Arctic Cat stepped up there game and I am definitely thinking about the 858 Catalyst.
With the lack of snow in the heart of snowmobiling , the upper Midwest plus recession manufacturers need to reduce prices not make them higher or they will price themselves out of business.
Excited to hear your thoughts on the the catalyst platform. The alpha rail does take time to get used to but honestly dont think id ever go back to a twin.
Ontario rider here (North Bay). A trail width Backcountry is perfect for me, more deep snow float than my 137” Renegade, but can still rail a twisty trail. I’m 2km from groomed trails but also back on to endless crown land north of the city. I ride probably 50/50 and have stayed away from the Bsckcountry because I still want fast, stable cornering.
Did you even get to ride yet this year? I'm from farther North in Sault Ste marie and we havnt had snow all year. Literally not even enough to groom a trail yet alone go boondocking
@@Lefishn trails have been opened a grand total of 9 days by me. We got a pile of snow in mid-January then it was warm for 3 weeks straight. Nearly all my 400km of riding has been on crown land this year. Oddly, I’ve broken every trail I’ve done this year and nobody else is riding it. About 70cm of snow depth right now where I live.
i've been saying for years that doo has gotten the XRS sleds too seperated from the RS... so its so nice to see them comp pkg coming as an RS lite. same geo as RS just not as tall spindles, rack steering, kashima shocks just 6mm smaller etc... makes my desciion hard as i ride both MXZ and Freeride but not sure which one to get in 25. i might keep my current FR until G6 chassis
I completely agree, run the same sleds again! Mod them a bit, and rewrap. If anything sell one of the old sleds for a cat.... So sad im saying get a Cat.... But lets be real, they look promising. Another Great Video Matt
Great video. As I get older I guess I don’t have the enthusiasm I use to, so I loved this straight up ‘highlights’ video of basically all I need to know, without some Dude and chick blowing sunshine up my azz.
Ski Doo reveal...and everyone's talking about Arctic Cat. 😂Watching that Jamie dude rock the 600 this year was pretty convincing. I'll bet you'll love that 858 Matt.
Matt - have you thought about taking one of your sleds and doing the big build like you did a few years ago to the sled that got totaled before you got it back to ride?
price went up slightly but they added extra year warranty on spring orders, that's a bonus for sure. plus that new front end & skis 👌bragging rights all day long..
Lynx made their top 2 sleds have an equal 180 hp from both a 2stroke and a 4stroke. The RAVE GLS 850 Turbo 2stroke with a water/meth injection in stock form and the 900 Turbo 4stroke both have 180hp... insane!
I don't get why they dont make a more off trail friendly version of the Backcountry, keep the 50/50 version they have, but also have what is basically a freeride with trail cooling as an 80/20, for the guys that mainly ride off trail in the lower snow areas but has the capability to go out west for a few trips a year. Especially that is easier to change tracks now, could run a 1.6-2" at home then throw on a 2.5+ for a trip out west
Man they are pricing us out. Adding $1000 to the expert and will probably lose $1000 more in resale. Upgrading year to year is a $7-8000 loss. That’s not right.
I’ll be keeping the 23 r one more season. Might find a low mile 24 free ride and save a few bucks if I get the itch. Only put 160 miles on my 23 this season. It’s only got 700 miles total on it…. Keep up the filming Matt we’re still watching bud….
What are the odds of you coming to NW CO to shred? Not great amounts of snow but still good! 12 miles of trail to my fav zones. Starting at 7 and Ridin 9 to 10k feet of elevation.
Not much new stuff on the mountain side other than piggy backs on the X and expert. Finally have GPS included in the gauge. Big changes on the trail and crossover side with new front suspension and 850 turbo r on the backcountry
Where did you ride if from Muskoka? I'm up in Sault Ste Marie and we only snowblower the driveway 3 times this year. Literally from Christmas till just 2 days ago we had maybe 3" snow and most days you can see grass in 90% of the city
Personally i think im going to extend the warrenty on my 2023 freeride and just go with a new summit xpert in 154 set up i do however am possibly going to snowcheck or find a backed out 146 turbo freeride or just get a complete skid for my 2023. Not sure on having 3 sleds next year. I would like to try arctic cat but the price tag on a 858 na is not worth it for me unless i void warranty and turbo the thing
No rider tracking is just a massive miss to me. Polaris has had it, Cat now has it, but Doo STILL doesn't. And of course the price increase. Come on people...😡
I’m not sure if “the powers that be” at arctic cat understand how popularity and social media influence affect sales, they haven’t picked up any new riders in years
@@MichaelGillen-if1nr I agree it sure seems that something is sleeping in that department. Hopefully it's just a budget thing and since the ball is rolling again they might reinvest in that department.
Snowmobiles are stacking up at dealers, the low snow year will have people scrambling to sell used sleds. Maybe the consumer will start to see a break on pricing.
It’s ridiculous that it hasn’t happened yet, could imagine if avalanche beacons were like that? You have to buy the same brand as your buddy or you can’t detect his beacon. It’s a little more extreme, but still….
TWENTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS. for a freakin snowmobile. With the north american Pickup truck market imploding due to inflated cost. Snowmobiles wont be too far behind.
It should be a legal requirement to have tracking cross brands. I mean it would be asinine to have Oxbow and other radios not talk to one another right? Also, the GPS tracking part has been on BRP‘s website for the last year to retrofit the 23s yet it hasn’t been for sale. I hope they get their act together to retrofit these as the phone app connectivity and crashing every other time you shut, the motor off is a big pain in the rear
We want to see you spend some time on a cat now. Not an afternoon, like some serious time. Like you’ve shown us with the Polaris and skidoo. Your videos actually are fun to watch and show how they really ride…. Unlike the rabid brand specific fanboy bullshit that we normally see in snowmobiling.
Tell me you had a white board you were reading from 🤔 If not Ski-Doo owes you huge for this infomercial 😝🤣👌. If this was just you doin you , I want a Polaris one next 🙌😉
I feel like your personality adds so much value to your videos. You're a blue collar, normal dude with valid opinions. The fact that your not sponsored and have to censor what you say adds a lot of value to me, I'm sorry because being sponsored is great for you hahaha
Free sleds would be great but I don’t want to sell my soul yet 😂
Would love it if you had a cat 858 in your fleet next year. The BEST part of you not having a full on sled sponsorship, is you tell it like it is!
Sometimes it might come of as me complaining but I just want to tell you guys how it is 💯
@@MuskokaFreeriderhopefully cat fam soon
@@MuskokaFreeriderI think the 858 would be a great add
@@MuskokaFreerider "Polaris, fix your shit" 😂 best quote ever!
@@snobiwonkenobi I think the chasis is what keeps polaris in business. They are just so light and nimble
Sure appreciate someone who has an unbiased review/opinion! A lot of people are getting free stuff and then spend a lot of time tooting their horn about how good the stuff is that they got for free! Thank you for what you do and how you keep it real :)
When I bought my last new ‘top of the line’ sled ten years ago it was $12,499 out the door. Even with inflation $25k is nuts.
US I assume? My new sled 10 years ago was 15k plus tax
@@MuskokaFreerider I am from NW ON so it was just a Switchback Assault 800, 12.5 before tax so I guess about 14k total. I think the Pro RMK and Skidoo/Yamaha were more expensive.
@@MuskokaFreerider I bought a new 2012 Pro RMK 800 - 155" and before taxes I believe it was $11,500 Canadian
Двагода назад купил Lynx69Ranger900aceturbo за 21 000 $.
В этом году они стоят у нас 40 000😮
These companies are gonna take a hit when absolutely no one spring orders a sled on the east coast for 25’
Matt is the most important Snowmobile Influencer in the game he does so much for the industry! Thank you Matt
The fact that Ski Doo hasnt sponsored Muskoka yet is insane!
I believe not being sponsored has benefited Matt to get a real opinion across brand lines and honestly more views.
I totally agree. Get everyone you know to sub to his channel. He gets more subs and it will be a no brainer. His content is excellent.
I’m glad they haven’t. It would be overly bias if they did and he only was able to ride doo. I’d be unsubscribing if it came to that. I love his ability to bring us unbiased opinions on multiple different brands of sleds.
Im gonna bet He refuses to let anyone sponsor him and for the better I would say.
Hey was a skidoo ambassadeur before but i dont know about sponsorship
Cat?????? Sweet! I’m a skidoo guy but it awesome to see the change up
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I think he ordered the new catalyst 858@@MuskokaFreerider
Perhaps this means an offseason 'sled-build' series perhaps?! Seems like a ton of potential across the current sleds you have to refresh & upgrade, I know I would watch a whole series on that!!
Been watching your videos for a few years. Can't wait to see you on a Catalyst! Thank you for trying them all and, as always, telling it like it is.
Yesss finally we might see a Cat in matt's lineup. So stoked about the 858 i think cat took a BIG step up with that!
What's price point/difference? Cat vs Polaris vs Doo 800, base packages?
You really think he's ordering a Cat?? I kinda doubt it...sure would be cool though.
@@farming4gthe catalyst I built online with a bumper and basic stuff was 23k cad pre pdi and tax. You can build one up on their website to see for yourself. Pricey for NA but then again so is 9r, I think even NA 850 expert start just under 21.
@@208SledHeadhe already said he did in the comments of another video. Also his last words he said in this video says he ordered a cat.
It's crazy how much all toys have gone up in price, don't get me started on trucks. Yes technology has improved a lot over the last 10-15 years but prices have raced way above normal inflation.
Thanks for keeping it real! This fashion show we call snowmobiling is getting hard for most people to justify! Pumped to see you on a cat!!
I can't wait for the cat next year! I really hope it puts AC back in serious competition. Your review will be one of the main ones I'll be looking for.
I love the shade thrown on SnowTrax TV. No ‘25 spring order for me. I’ll be buying a leftover ‘24 Ski Doo or maybe a last year Yamaha four stroke crossover for a buddy sled. The ‘25 Expert in navy is super good-looking but the deals on ‘24s will be too good to pass up.
All in good fun haha
The blue is sharp for sure! Best looking sled this year
I tell you what I have always been a Ski-doo rider but this year my wife picked up the new 2024 Arctic Cat Catalyst M600 and all I can say is wow Arctic Cat stepped up there game and I am definitely thinking about the 858 Catalyst.
Love to see all the stoke around the Catalyst!
So what did you do the 154" x 3"?
With the lack of snow in the heart of snowmobiling , the upper Midwest plus recession manufacturers need to reduce prices not make them higher or they will price themselves out of business.
Me and my bud figured the used sled market has taken a solid 25% drop in price!! Ouch!!! Getting to be an awfully spendy sport!!🤑
Excited to hear your thoughts on the the catalyst platform. The alpha rail does take time to get used to but honestly dont think id ever go back to a twin.
As a catalyst owner, i can't wait for the content next year on the cat! Also, i do believe doo changed their mountain ski a little.
I did hear that too but I couldn’t find the info on the difference. Also it’s still called a ds4 ski?
Your not left out brotha ! ...you got the best croud here behind you !! Cheers and keep it up
Ontario rider here (North Bay). A trail width Backcountry is perfect for me, more deep snow float than my 137” Renegade, but can still rail a twisty trail. I’m 2km from groomed trails but also back on to endless crown land north of the city. I ride probably 50/50 and have stayed away from the Bsckcountry because I still want fast, stable cornering.
Fair enough
Did you even get to ride yet this year? I'm from farther North in Sault Ste marie and we havnt had snow all year. Literally not even enough to groom a trail yet alone go boondocking
@@Lefishn trails have been opened a grand total of 9 days by me. We got a pile of snow in mid-January then it was warm for 3 weeks straight.
Nearly all my 400km of riding has been on crown land this year. Oddly, I’ve broken every trail I’ve done this year and nobody else is riding it. About 70cm of snow depth right now where I live.
Would love to see a vid of all the sleds you own and the pros/cons likes/dislikes of all
"they suck pretty bad" fucking love you Muskoka! Your content is better being Indy and being able to say whatever is on your mind.
Nice to get honest reviews from someone that isn’t get bought off by brp!
Best review of this year's sleds I've seen yet! Honestly and knowledgeable! Thanks🎉
Love to see a non sponsored 858 kitty!
i've been saying for years that doo has gotten the XRS sleds too seperated from the RS... so its so nice to see them comp pkg coming as an RS lite. same geo as RS just not as tall spindles, rack steering, kashima shocks just 6mm smaller etc... makes my desciion hard as i ride both MXZ and Freeride but not sure which one to get in 25. i might keep my current FR until G6 chassis
The ds4 ski has also been updated to have more of a taper on the rear of the ski
Was thinking of spring order but I think I will find a 24 Lynx or freeride
If you can pick one up for a good price that’s the way to go 👊
Look who busted out the new snow suit!!
one thing i noticed with track profile is the went back to the kinda serrated lugs instead of flat
Doo Turbo, 9R and 858. That would be a sweet trio 🤩
I'd like to see you ripping an 858. It would be nice to see more cats on the mt.
Love how you snuck the cat comment in. Oh please. Give us an 858 with you on it.
Muskoka you have the best channel on the Planet! It would be Great to see you on a Cat!!!! Fingers Crossed to see you on a New Mountain Cat!!!
I completely agree, run the same sleds again! Mod them a bit, and rewrap. If anything sell one of the old sleds for a cat.... So sad im saying get a Cat.... But lets be real, they look promising. Another Great Video Matt
You’ve got it! Hopefully they perform as good as they look
Sell off the 9R. It's the best sled for the crappy snow, and the cat will replace it as your only NA sled😂
Cat stepping up makes it good for all to produce better sleds.
@@bigchaloopa 100 percent
Great video. As I get older I guess I don’t have the enthusiasm I use to, so I loved this straight up ‘highlights’ video of basically all I need to know, without some Dude and chick blowing sunshine up my azz.
Would love to see you on a catalyst m858 for next season!
Did you watch till the end 🤔
@@MuskokaFreerider do it
@@MuskokaFreerider I commented midway through the video, excited to see what you ordered. Hopefully the cat treats you well Matt!
Ski Doo reveal...and everyone's talking about Arctic Cat. 😂Watching that Jamie dude rock the 600 this year was pretty convincing. I'll bet you'll love that 858 Matt.
So good man! Finally a Honest and not-Sponsred Talk!! I Appreciates And inspire and will do the same on my Chanel for the swedish people💪🏼
👊
Matt - have you thought about taking one of your sleds and doing the big build like you did a few years ago to the sled that got totaled before you got it back to ride?
I would love to do a “Burandt build”
Love that you're not brand sponsored and can have free speeched on all brands, keep it up!!!
price went up slightly but they added extra year warranty on spring orders, that's a bonus for sure. plus that new front end & skis 👌bragging rights all day long..
That’s good to hear I didn’t know that! Even on turbos? 3 years?
Lynx made their top 2 sleds have an equal 180 hp from both a 2stroke and a 4stroke. The RAVE GLS 850 Turbo 2stroke with a water/meth injection in stock form and the 900 Turbo 4stroke both have 180hp... insane!
Holy muskoka got the crowd fired up about gettin a kitty i cant wait for to see the cat gettin a heli down the mountain
Wouldn’t be the first, won’t be the last. Haha
Haters be hating
Who says cats don't fly?
I don't get why they dont make a more off trail friendly version of the Backcountry, keep the 50/50 version they have, but also have what is basically a freeride with trail cooling as an 80/20, for the guys that mainly ride off trail in the lower snow areas but has the capability to go out west for a few trips a year. Especially that is easier to change tracks now, could run a 1.6-2" at home then throw on a 2.5+ for a trip out west
Love your honesty. Definitely calling it as you see it.👍
Always!
I need more snowmobile videos, from u 😅
Give mother nature a call for more snow and im sure hed make more videos hahah
Man they are pricing us out. Adding $1000 to the expert and will probably lose $1000 more in resale. Upgrading year to year is a $7-8000 loss. That’s not right.
Appreciate your honest take
Please try a cat 858
I am pumped you ordered a cat for next year.
I’ll be keeping the 23 r one more season. Might find a low mile 24 free ride and save a few bucks if I get the itch. Only put 160 miles on my 23 this season. It’s only got 700 miles total on it…. Keep up the filming Matt we’re still watching bud….
Dang! Hardly broke in
@@MuskokaFreerider it’s a powder princess 😂
You would be mad to spring check this year. With the terrible season, rise in prices and bargain used prices, 2024 is going to knock skidoo down.
What are the odds of you coming to NW CO to shred? Not great amounts of snow but still good! 12 miles of trail to my fav zones. Starting at 7 and Ridin 9 to 10k feet of elevation.
Not much new stuff on the mountain side other than piggy backs on the X and expert. Finally have GPS included in the gauge. Big changes on the trail and crossover side with new front suspension and 850 turbo r on the backcountry
Great review Matt.. from your riding reviews to this, I enjoy the unbiased opinion. Also agree with everything you said!!
Dude get the new catalyst m858 ! That sled looks sick !
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Weather forecast for Revy is looking pretty powful after Feb 29 th ! Are you coming back out of March ? Let’s gooooooo!!!! Where do we meet up ? lol.
Looking wayyy better finally
Nvr really rode much this season out here in b.c. so some of your sleds are basically brand new still for next year hahhaa.
I like that 509 mono
Where did you ride if from Muskoka? I'm up in Sault Ste Marie and we only snowblower the driveway 3 times this year. Literally from Christmas till just 2 days ago we had maybe 3" snow and most days you can see grass in 90% of the city
He moves to revelstoke every winter. He is just visiting ON right now.
Funny with the price increases, there is already so many 2024 leftovers
Over 10000$ lost for a 1600km sled is INSANE. Why would anyone buy brand new at this point?
I heard skidoo has a new track, it's got 2 diff size lugs on one track. Storm 1.5 I believe.
Thanks for the updates
Good time to buy leftover 24’s 🤙
Agreed
Personally i think im going to extend the warrenty on my 2023 freeride and just go with a new summit xpert in 154 set up i do however am possibly going to snowcheck or find a backed out 146 turbo freeride or just get a complete skid for my 2023. Not sure on having 3 sleds next year. I would like to try arctic cat but the price tag on a 858 na is not worth it for me unless i void warranty and turbo the thing
No rider tracking is just a massive miss to me. Polaris has had it, Cat now has it, but Doo STILL doesn't. And of course the price increase. Come on people...😡
News Cats for everyone let’s goo
Muskoka Deserves to be a skidoo Ambassador type rider or at least more Support or Recogition from Skidoo.
Cat should sponsor Muskoska!
I’m not sure if “the powers that be” at arctic cat understand how popularity and social media influence affect sales, they haven’t picked up any new riders in years
@@MichaelGillen-if1nr I agree it sure seems that something is sleeping in that department. Hopefully it's just a budget thing and since the ball is rolling again they might reinvest in that department.
new accessory seat has belt storage built in now
I never jumped on spring order i ran to it fast as I could 😂
Snowmobiles are stacking up at dealers, the low snow year will have people scrambling to sell used sleds. Maybe the consumer will start to see a break on pricing.
thought there was a locator on the new GPS module for Ski Doo. SUcks that between polaris, doo and cat(garmin) that they all don't see each other
lets hope Polaris does a 900 turbo? that should keep them dominating !
The three big brands should actually work together to make a buddy system that actually works together. Doubt it will happen, but we can hope
It’s ridiculous that it hasn’t happened yet, could imagine if avalanche beacons were like that? You have to buy the same brand as your buddy or you can’t detect his beacon. It’s a little more extreme, but still….
TWENTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS. for a freakin snowmobile. With the north american Pickup truck market imploding due to inflated cost. Snowmobiles wont be too far behind.
The ending, let's go KITTY KAT BOI!
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Do a trail riding video on the mxz
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I love ur realist review, no bs
You ordered a 858 cat didn’t you? I hade a feeling you might eventually order one.
You’re an excellent content creator therefore I believe you’ll get picked up eventually! I see a free sled in your future
REVELSTOKE LOOKS LIKE SNOW???!!! did you buy a plane ticket to come back for March??😋
It should be a legal requirement to have tracking cross brands. I mean it would be asinine to have Oxbow and other radios not talk to one another right? Also, the GPS tracking part has been on BRP‘s website for the last year to retrofit the 23s yet it hasn’t been for sale. I hope they get their act together to retrofit these as the phone app connectivity and crashing every other time you shut, the motor off is a big pain in the rear
And on that bombshell( end of the video... ) :D
Could you do a Lynx 2025 lineup video?
Better go get your truck and sleds bud! Winters over!
BC is about to get nuked on!
Well done. Great video and real talk
Just picked up a 24 freeride in the crate for $17900
Like the honest review.
Make your choice even easier, most likely all Polaris next yr!?
We want to see you spend some time on a cat now. Not an afternoon, like some serious time. Like you’ve shown us with the Polaris and skidoo. Your videos actually are fun to watch and show how they really ride…. Unlike the rabid brand specific fanboy bullshit that we normally see in snowmobiling.
Love ur channel matt
What's your take on the 2025 Lynx Line up? Maybe worth a vid.
Nothing has changed
You should get a new ski doo 154 turbo
ya Hugo was HAULIN on his 154 doo turbo!
Is there a new bumper attachment for it to be better?
Will you be going to the 858 demo day?
Nice to have a report on that.
Hopefully
Definition of old: Last time I rode sleds was the year before the first Rev platform was released :(
858 would be dope
Tell me you had a white board you were reading from 🤔 If not Ski-Doo owes you huge for this infomercial 😝🤣👌. If this was just you doin you , I want a Polaris one next 🙌😉
Polaris next!