I've heard that Max Baer had a broken right hand or was recovering from a broken right hand in this fight. I heard that about 2 months ago. Anybody know?
It seems a lot of Baer's reputation was just build up by hype and hot air from promoters... When it came to fighting boxers with real talent (Marciano, Braddock, Lewis, etc.), he was no match...
Louis is so superior to Baer , you would think Baer had never had a boxing match in his life , never mind being a former world champion, incredible fighter-boxer was Joe , 👍
@@michaelnoakes8147 ya Joe isn’t really given the same recognition today but he’s one of the most technically sound boxers you’ll ever watch. Not a lot of wasted movement
@@Ditka-89 by who.kids.cause anyone who really knows boxing,know.Ali always my favourite.but louis is the best HW •ever.And best puncher , technique, balance the way he turns from the hips and crashes through thd target..And this fight every punch wax on display.lead hook off the uppercut.right cross, left hook,his combination punching and body work,jabs.kostya tzyu was similar.his punches were shorter.but still perfect technique.
When Baer was asked by a reporter why didn't he get up after the last knock down, Maxie said with a straight face to the reporter " These people paid to watch a fight not a killing " LOL !
My father always told me Louis was the best he ever saw, and watching these old films, I see why. He's just about a perfect fighter. Very efficient, never wasted motion, and he completely controls the ring thanks to his brilliant footwork. He had a great punch, obviously, but he also really knew how to box.
I'm 75 years-old and I remember my dad saying the same thing. Whenever we watched a fight on t.v. from the 1960s through the 1990s, my old man would always say to me: "Joe Louis would have beaten any of these bums." He was an American hero during the 1930s and 1940s.
@@felixmadison5736 He was a hero of WWII and meant a great deal to the war effort and the people who lived through that era. Great champion and good man, but no, there are several who would have beaten him even at his best.
Max Baer was as hard as nails. Joe pulverised him in this fight and he kept getting up. Joe Louis was something else. His achievements will never be equalled.
It seems a lot of Baer's reputation was just build up by hype and hot air from promoters... When it came to fighting boxers with real talent (Marciano, Braddock, Lewis, etc.), he was no match...
@@amadeus.k331Bear depended on his only weapon. Big right hand. But when it landed it was devastating. These guys were the pioneers of the sweet science
Whenever I see a Baer fight, the first thing that comes to mind is, "What a wasted talent". If he'd just put in the effort to master his craft, there's no telling how great he could have been. He could punch, had a reach approaching Liston, and apparently had a head made of concrete. Despite his lackadaisical training, he had good stamina. Mixed his punches to the head and body. But even his stance was amateurish. He punched wide, and his defense was virtually nonexistent. He had the talent, but not the dedication. Just a terrible waste. But he did enjoy the ride.
@@Salieri47 Very true. Also some felt he did a lot of damage to the man who Carnerra killed in the ring. Baer was most dangerous if he was angry. I think against Schmelling, with that Max being German, also Carnerra, and a few years later Tony gallento, who he I believe did not like.
Baer had a powerful punch and he could take punches-but he had poor defensive skills. Look how low he is carrying his left throughout this fight. He could get away with that against less skilled fighters, they mostly didn't hit hard enough to be a threat. Against Louis it was custom made for a knockout. Baer had the physical ability to be one of the best, but he didn't have the self-discipline to do what was necessary to get there.
I've been saying this for years and still believe it, Louis is the most beautiful combination punching Heavyweight ever, still. He looks light years ahead of Baer technique-wise. Baer was rock hard but Louis was sooooo accurate with everything he threw
Joe Louis has such a long and smooth jab. When he fought Marciano you could see the extent of it better against a shorter and compact fighter. He's the greatest of all time IMO.
Difficult to see it in black and white, but in this color footage you can see the fluidity of JL movements and the accuracy of his combinations...this was great footage of the 'Brown Bomber"
I've been a huge boxing fan for over 50 years and a huge Frazier fan. Louis, imo opinion has one of the top 5 left hooks in history. Short, quick, accurate and devastating.
Agree and what a great human being as well. I would have a hard time picking him over Frazier however. Maybe over the course of his career, yes. But a 1971 Frazier could not be beat by anyone not named Foreman.
That triple left hook was incredible. Louis would have been a champion in any era, although maybe not at heavyweight. And Baer was a badass,and tough as they come, but nobody was tough enough for prime Joe.
Yep the fighters today barely throw 2 punch combos.They are always head hunting with no footwork. Schmeling was tough enough for prime time joe. you might like to watch Patterson v Bonavena. Thirty seven years old and the guy was throwing punch combos, left hook followed by 3 jabs. Ali said Floyd was the most classy fighter he'd faced.
@@johnreidy2804 Marciano was an extremely powerful puncher. Still, the fact Louis was older when he was knocked out makes for a great "who had won in a fight had they both been in their prime" guess. Don't you think so?
@@mirazusta2002 Louis was 38 at the time and not in his prime. So, yes, I do wonder who would have own prime for prime. But we must also consider that Louis had a 3-fight win streak he was coming off of. So, he still had a lot left in the tank. 38 is not 58 friend
@@johnreidy2804 Yea, of course, some topnoch boxers, like Joe Louis, were still on top form in their late thirties, even early forties (Ali, Holmes, Foreman and Frazier are some other illustruous examples,) the question remains, though, what was the age gap between Louis and Marciano. I think this to be an important question, specially taking into account Marciano was no ordinary fighter by any standards, he was a freak of nature, a beast in a league of his own, kind of a 50s white version of a Mike Tyson from the 80s when it comes to firepower and overall toughness, if you Know what I mean. What I'm trying to say is that we will never know who''d have won if these two greats had been comtempories in career terms.
Yeah, Louis kept shutting him up while extending the length of his beating, that retired him and turned him into an actor. Quite sure he never forgot that beating the rest of his life.
@@Chris-tp8db I quite sure he didn't mean that. Especially after he saw the way Louis easily smacked his much bigger little brother around. Buddy Baer was his name.
One of Joe's best performances. Baer wasn't able to use his back-handers like he did against Schmeling. In the end he was afraid to even throw his right hand.
@@tommygun5038 Maybe so, but also that's how they learned their craft. Modern fighters are incredible athletes but many don't really understand footwork, body punching, and how to put combinations together. Watch Louis, no wasted motion, he has a reason for everything he does in the ring. Watch vids of Willie Pep and Billy Graham. Those guys couldn't punch, but they were such great technical boxers they won almost every fight. Pep had over 200 fights, Graham over 100.
Those old films only had the capability to run at 18 frames per second, no where near modern technology. That's why they play slow. If Louis's films were in color and high definition like modern films he would be even more impressive. He was an amazing fighter and arguably the Greatest of all times.
@@jeffriessman9693 Absolutely was a heavyweight! Calling him a cruiserweight is based on misinformation. His weight is almost exactly the same as Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston at the same stages of their careers. Heavyweights are considered in their prime years between the ages of 28 and 32. Louis was weighing 208 before missing 4 years and 3 months of his career due to WWII. When he returned he generally fought at 212. Larry Holmes became Champion at age 29 weighing 209 and Liston was 30 when he won the Championship at 212. As far as black fighters are concerned he defended his crown against Jersey Joe Walcott and John Henry Lewis both champions. He also defeated several black fighters in the amateurs and several more as he worked his way up the ranks as a professional. Because of the racism, promoters back then didn't pit black fighters against each other. The goal was to return the Championship to a white fighter, so that's why he fought mostly white challengers. Louis is never given the credit he deserves for his part in integrating the Armed services and opening the door for all the other black heavyweights to follow him. Hope this helps 🙂
Joe Louis was an amazing counter puncher, beside all his other abilities as a boxer. A young Joe Louis would be hard to beat in any era. What a legend. Awesome job in the restoration of this classic film. 👏
Watching a prime Joe Louis is a thing of beauty-perfect balance andpositioning-deadly accuracy -legendary power-and Maxie was one tough opponent but completely outclassed by Louis. Joe was so far ahead of everyone else skill wise-
fra i massimi di quei pesi, di quel tempo si, ma credo che Robinson , se parliamo di valore assoluto, pound for pound sia stato ancora meglio, Robinson aveva qualcosa in piu' di tutti.
Louis would've probably beaten Maxie no matter what. BUT, it's a known fact that after Maxie killed Frankie Campbell with the tremendous overhand right he was born with, he was never the same in the ring again. He lost 4 of his next 6 fights. He had nightmares for years about killing Campbell. That's why Jim Braddock beat him. Maxie was afraid to throw the punch again with bad intentions. In the Louis fight, his right hand, broken in the Braddock fight, hadnt healed yet, and he basically fought Louis with one hand.
Facing Baer is a far cry from facing a prime Frazier, Ali, Norton, Holmes, Lennox Lewis, and big bad George Foreman. I love Louis, but in his own Era! They just got to advanced. I think if born in a different Era, he would fight much differently and be very competitive. He would have to to survive.
Max Baer sure had a big heart! He took a ton of bombs from the great Louis and stood his ground. Joe was just a machine at his prime! I wish there was a time machine so I could meet Joe Louis and shake his hand!
I wish I could have met them both! Don't forget, Max Baer's Son was Jethro on The Beverly Hillbillies. Growing up, Jethro was my favorite character on the show.
Joe Louis is impressive. Baer would try and swarm him with quick successive punches, as per his usual style, but Louis would recover, defend, throw a well-placed punch at Baer's face to stun him and swarm back with a quick succession of hits. A really great fighter.
Except he had a more conventional defense and more punching power. Ali wasn't just quick with his hands, he could move his head and make a lot of people miss early in his career. Would be a dream to see them fight in their primes.
All I can hear every time I see Joe Louis is Eddie Murphy as the barber in 'Coming to America' talking about Joe. "Joe was 175 years old when he fought..."
Joe was a great combo puncher with lethal speed & power. Honestly, could Bear be any more stationary or less mobile. Joe is basically punching a heavy bag in the gym.
Joe Louis in his prime would have given Ali all he could handle. I say that having seen every one of Ali's fights from the time he won Olympic Medal, and was known by his given name, Cassius Clay. I consider Ali the greatest, but Joe Louis could prove me wrong I think.
Another observation about Louis jab can be seen in the video. It is what Max Schmeling saw. Joe lowers his left glove after throwing his jab. In the first fight with Max Schmeling timed Joe’s dropping of his left jab with numerous pulverizing right crosses.
Louis bringing his hand back up wouldn't have helped him all that much against Schmeling. Max hit him with a right cross as soon as Louis extended his left hand. The problem was that Max knew how to perfectly counter the jab. That's why Louis almost didn't jab once in the rematch. He knew Max would counter it.
There hasn't been another fighter like the Brown Bomber...ever. Some say he's slow and plods along...but man, Joe's sweet science eludes them...! On a side note, had Joe not been screwed over due to the IRS tax BS...he would have ended his career with an impressive 56 wins to 1 loss...! Still to this day, he holds the longest continuous Heavy weight title of 11 years and 8 months...! By far, my favorite boxer in History and he was one heck of a Good man, too. HOO-YAH & God Bless Joe's memory and wonderful soul.
I hear so much praise for Marciano but I was never impressed by him. He fought 6 great fighters including an old Joe Louis, the rest were no-names. My top guys were Ali, Louis, Dempsey. All different styles but invincible.
@@tonymazz9912 Marciano was one tough dude & his stamina was phenomenal...and he hit like a mac truck. However, he fought in a time where his opponents weren't as noteworthy as Ali's and Louis'...imho. Perhaps once we pass from our mortal coil, we might get to see dream match's of cross era boxers...but we can only speculate how such match's might turn out but for me...I favor a prime Joe Louis over anyone. There just simply hasn't been a boxer like him...ever. His style was...perfect...Blackburn forged an incredibly unique fighter. The "Mechanical Wonder." (Look for that video and watch it...worth it!) I honestly believe Joe held back. I say this because of what we got to see in his 2nd fight with Max Schmelling. We NEVER got to see THAT Joe Louis again...he unleashed himself and simply destroyed Max. As far as I'm concerned...no boxer in History beats the Brown Bomber on that June night in 1938. Joe was such a really nice guy...much like Max Baer who had already killed 2 guys in the ring. Neither really wanted to hurt anyone and both could punch harder than most people. So with all the what if's and maybe's...we all really do have to remember that if Joe hadn't been forced out of retirement...his record would have been 56 wins to 1 loss. For me...that's how I think of Joe Louis...and all we have are statistics to go with. So this means we really do have to respect the undefeated Marciano...and recognize that he definitely had a "punchers chance".
@@tonymazz9912 louis fought Walcott when he was old too ..Louis was just a lil younger but Walcott was older it’s no excuses it’s a grown man sport ..if Louis or Walcott thought cause they was old and couldn’t beat Marciano they wouldn’t have fought him ..I just feel like you have too have a chin for Marciano cause if not it’s over !that was Louis only weakness his chin it was questionable..if he fought Marciano younger it woulda been the same thing cause of his chin facing a guy like Marciano.joe Louis and Marciano are both in my top 5 heavyweights.no Order .. 1.Marciano 2.louis 3.David tua 4.Cleveland Williams 5.Mike Tyson/foreman /Sonny Liston
Fought 24 times in a span of 14 months. Everytime I learn something new about Louis it further solidifies for me why he's the greatest HWC of all time. The 25 straight title defenses is unfathomable and puts him over the hump for me, all due respect to Ali and Maurciano.
Max Baer showed a chin against the monster primo carnera and Joe Louis a man half the size of primo knocked him out inside the first 3rd of the fight incredible power
Joe Louis y Sugar Robinzon inventaron el Boxeo moderno los demás paresia peleadora callejeros a comparación de los dos más grandes de todos los tiempos
Given how easily Baer dispatched Max Schmeling in 1933 and Schmeling's K.O of Louis in 1936....this bout was quite surprising....how easily Louis beat Baer...Baer never hurt him, and got only one good flurry in on Louis in the first round. Both men packed equalling powerful punching ability, but of course Louis was the superior tactical fighter.
A fighter (it might have been Ezzard Charles) was asked what it felt like to be hit by Joe Louis. He replied “take a metal garbage can filled with bricks and hang it from a rope. Swing it out as far as you can and let it swing back and hit you in the face. That’s what it feels like”.
Joe louis was fast, and definitely the most technical heavyweight of all time. If Louis fought Ali, it would probably be the greatest fight in boxing history.
@@petesibley-km9gg I think Ali could win, if he stayed on his bicycle and danced for 15 rounds. But Ali wasn't technically skilled like Louis. He tended to get careless and was knocked down by Henry Cooper, a mediocre English heavyweight, not to mention Joe Frazier. Ali would have to fight a perfect fight to beat Louis, if he made a mistake Louis would be all over it. If I had to bet on a fight between them when both were at their peak, I'd have to go with Louis, but I wouldn't be shocked if Ali won.
@@karlkellar8614 Ali was much faster. Could dance for 15 rounds.Fastest jab on record. Lewis would beat a 70's Ali.Ali was banned for 4 years. Much slower. A 1967 Ali would beat Lewis. We never even saw a prime Ali. If Ali was losing a fight he changed his strategy.
It's nice to see a young Joe Louis. Baer had no effective jab. He just pawed to try and keep Louis away. It's hard to believe he was a champion. He looked to me like a palooka who could certainly take a punch.
Joe louis was so accuate with all his punches nothing wasted,perfect stance great shape the only question mark could he fight with the fighters of today highly unlikely todays fighters weigh between 245 up to 300 lbs and stand 6 4 inches to 7 ft and hit like a mack truck and are fast as grease lighting this is the greatest ear .
First, size in a heayyweight isn't always decisive, just look at Carnera and Willard. Second, that's why we have weight classes in boxing. 175 for a heavyweight is totally outdated, there should be cruiseweight (175-200), heavyweight (200 to, say, 225), and superheavyweight (over 225).
Joe Louis was a brutal puncher. I still think he was to slow for Ali though. Especially the Ali we would have seen what would have been the three prime years of his career that he wasn't allowed to box.
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor No man. Unlike other boxers, he didn't have an exceptional physical build. He was a hard hitter but wasn't a natural hard hitter like Earnie shavers or Joe frazier.
@@AXL664 Yes, Baer wasn't 100%...but again, it wouldn't have mattered. Joe's known as perhaps one of the best during his prime. (He wouldn't have lost to Rocky or Ezzard, if he was...)
@@AXL664 We'll never know...but yeah...imho, no one beats a prime Joe Louis. He beat all the Champions before him that were still fighting and continuously held the Heavy Weight Title the longest in History, still to this day...11 years and 8 months. Defending it 25 times. He was unique and no one...NO ONE...has successfully emulated his style. The Brown Bomber is known as the most technically accurate boxer in History. Hey...here's one of my hopes. God willing...if He allows it...once in Heaven, maybe we'll be able to see all of the greats in their prime and they can settle this for us in the ring? One can dream...!!! ;)
Max started out as a force in Boxing with raw power , never a gifted boxer just a powerful right hand and a iron jaw. his potential career was destroyed by his fight with Frankie Campbell who died from the beating he took from Baer ...After getting hit by a thunderous right hand , he told his corner that something snapped in his head ... after going down he never revived and was pronounced dead in the hospital... Baer, who was a jolly ,easy going , fun loving man, never fully recovered from that disaster ... He swore when he came back to boxing that he would never hit another man as hard as he could...
Foi mole para Louis... Baer já era um veterano. Puseram um garoto pra lutar contra ele... mas os verdadeiros boxers não "arregam". Salvo engano, o Louis vinha de mais de 15 nocautes consecutivos ( não sei precisar qtos) o cara era uma máquina de bater!
Louis once said he never felt better then on this night and it showed. While Baer might have gotten up again he said you'd have to pay more than $25 (ringside price at the time) to see me get slaughtered. Frankly, Baer was never a good boxer but he had a terrific right hand and a sturdy chin which was good enough against average or even above-average talent, just not when he faced a great fighter.
Max Baer was 6’7 and Joe was 6’1 and over 10 pounds lighter I say this because the same way Joe knocked out a refined Max Baer would’ve been the same for a just as big Tyson Fury and wild Wilder of today Joe would’ve crushed the heavyweights today
I believe that Louis had not even fought a year as a pro when he beat Baer. But as Schmelling perhaps watched in this fight, I SEE SOMETHING. Supposably Baer had an injured hand.
OMG, Jethro’s father vs Joe?!?! Never realized he fought Joe but knew that he was a boxer. He could take a punch and took quite a few from Joe…But a few too many…
It's easy to say that Ali would've beaten Louis. I don't know about that. If Louis at his peak was brought to Ali's time and allowed to watch Ali's fights, Louis would have crafted his approach differently. Louis was a master of learning from his fights. He always did better the second time he fought the same opponent.
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I've heard that Max Baer had a broken right hand or was recovering from a broken right hand in this fight. I heard that about 2 months ago. Anybody know?
It seems a lot of Baer's reputation was just build up by hype and hot air from promoters... When it came to fighting boxers with real talent (Marciano, Braddock, Lewis, etc.), he was no match...
'I define fear as standing across the ring from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Louis is so superior to Baer , you would think Baer had never had a boxing match in his life , never mind being a former world champion, incredible fighter-boxer was Joe , 👍
@@michaelnoakes8147 ya Joe isn’t really given the same recognition today but he’s one of the most technically sound boxers you’ll ever watch. Not a lot of wasted movement
@@Ditka-89 by who.kids.cause anyone who really knows boxing,know.Ali always my favourite.but louis is the best HW •ever.And best puncher , technique, balance the way he turns from the hips and crashes through thd target..And this fight every punch wax on display.lead hook off the uppercut.right cross, left hook,his combination punching and body work,jabs.kostya tzyu was similar.his punches were shorter.but still perfect technique.
Joe Louis, Captain America🇺🇸🙏🏻 Rocky Marciano’s favorite fighter
@@michaelnoakes8147 superior 😂ok 👌
When Baer was asked by a reporter why didn't he get up after the last knock down, Maxie said with a straight face to the reporter " These people paid to watch a fight not a killing " LOL !
Those 3 left hooks at 3:29 were so savage I never seen anything like that.
The fact he connected with all three was crazy
You don't get to recover, then you get hit again.
Compact but with power.
Yeoo this actually made me laugh cause its so true. Aint nobody hit 3 consecutive so clean like that😂😂😂
@@KlngVJamesRoy Jones Jr
My father always told me Louis was the best he ever saw, and watching these old films, I see why. He's just about a perfect fighter. Very efficient, never wasted motion, and he completely controls the ring thanks to his brilliant footwork. He had a great punch, obviously, but he also really knew how to box.
…and knock out power in both hands throwing any type of punch.
I'm 75 years-old and I remember my dad saying the same thing. Whenever we watched a fight on t.v. from the 1960s through the 1990s, my old man would always say to me: "Joe Louis would have beaten any of these bums." He was an American hero during the 1930s and 1940s.
Well, except for Roy Jones Jr
@@felixmadison5736 He was a hero of WWII and meant a great deal to the war effort and the people who lived through that era. Great champion and good man, but no, there are several who would have beaten him even at his best.
@@JoeBuck-uc3blHA! That's funny!!!
Max Baer was as hard as nails. Joe pulverised him in this fight and he kept getting up. Joe Louis was something else. His achievements will never be equalled.
It seems a lot of Baer's reputation was just build up by hype and hot air from promoters... When it came to fighting boxers with real talent (Marciano, Braddock, Lewis, etc.), he was no match...
@@amadeus.k331Bear depended on his only weapon. Big right hand. But when it landed it was devastating. These guys were the pioneers of the sweet science
I thought a lot of people made fun of the Bear brothers because they were just big and had a lot of power but didn't know how to fight well
@@familylandscapecompanyinc.7355ur both wrong. Baer was a great boxer But Joe is a top 5 heavyweight
@@Dempsey1873max today would lose in 30 seconds
Whenever I see a Baer fight, the first thing that comes to mind is, "What a wasted talent". If he'd just put in the effort to master his craft, there's no telling how great he could have been. He could punch, had a reach approaching Liston, and apparently had a head made of concrete. Despite his lackadaisical training, he had good stamina. Mixed his punches to the head and body. But even his stance was amateurish. He punched wide, and his defense was virtually nonexistent.
He had the talent, but not the dedication.
Just a terrible waste.
But he did enjoy the ride.
100% agree Maxie just enjoyed his life. He could have been one of the top 10 of all time but that was Maxie.
Many boxing people at the time, and now, said Max never went after opponents the same way after he killed a man in the ring.
@@Salieri47 Very true. Also some felt he did a lot of damage to the man who Carnerra killed in the ring. Baer was most dangerous if he was angry. I think against Schmelling, with that Max being German, also Carnerra, and a few years later Tony gallento, who he I believe did not like.
Baer had a powerful punch and he could take punches-but he had poor defensive skills. Look how low he is carrying his left throughout this fight. He could get away with that against less skilled fighters, they mostly didn't hit hard enough to be a threat. Against Louis it was custom made for a knockout. Baer had the physical ability to be one of the best, but he didn't have the self-discipline to do what was necessary to get there.
I suspect he broke his right hand in about the 2nd or 3rd round. He NEVER threw his right for his last two rounds.
Joe had one of the best left jabs of any heavyweight champion. They said ever time his jab touched you it left a mark on one’s face.
That Jab was bothering me as I watched the fight.
I've been saying this for years and still believe it, Louis is the most beautiful combination punching Heavyweight ever, still.
He looks light years ahead of Baer technique-wise.
Baer was rock hard but Louis was sooooo accurate with everything he threw
Joe Louis has such a long and smooth jab. When he fought Marciano you could see the extent of it better against a shorter and compact fighter. He's the greatest of all time IMO.
Difficult to see it in black and white, but in this color footage you can see the fluidity of JL movements and the accuracy of his combinations...this was great footage of the 'Brown Bomber"
Baer was powerful and larger but slow and unpolished. And also didn’t train as hard. Clearly no match for Joe Louis
@@RolloTomasi49 Second greatest. A dream fight between Louis and Ali (at their peaks) could have gone either way. Similar size and technical ability.
@@robertheintze9413Ali would of made Joe wish he wasn’t born.
I've been a huge boxing fan for over 50 years and a huge Frazier fan. Louis, imo opinion has one of the top 5 left hooks in history. Short, quick, accurate and devastating.
Agree and what a great human being as well. I would have a hard time picking him over Frazier however. Maybe over the course of his career, yes. But a 1971 Frazier could not be beat by anyone not named Foreman.
@@chuckurso593 I'm not taking anything away from Foreman but Joe was ripe for the picking when it came to there fight in '73.
49-0 😉
Baer could fight, but Joe could Box. It's not called Boxing for nothing.
Tua had the same problem with Lewis
Max could most definitely box. But Joe boxed better. Denying that downplays both men
Baer in his prime would have killed Louis…. Literally!
What an amazing fight-such a cool glimpse back into boxing history. That was just as edge of your seat as anything.
Joe boxed like a modern fighter. I can see why he was so great and way ahead of his time. RIP Joe.
Sharkey, Schmeling, Tunney and Loughran also boxed like modern fighters. Technical boxers existed before Louis.
The most precise and lethal puncher I think in heavyweight history. Obviously not the biggest or hardest puncher, but the best.
That triple left hook was incredible. Louis would have been a champion in any era, although maybe not at heavyweight. And Baer was a badass,and tough as they come, but nobody was tough enough for prime Joe.
Yep the fighters today barely throw 2 punch combos.They are always head hunting with no footwork. Schmeling was tough enough for prime time joe. you might like to watch Patterson v Bonavena. Thirty seven years old and the guy was throwing punch combos, left hook followed by 3 jabs. Ali said Floyd was the most classy fighter he'd faced.
Thank for uploading thisl❤ Joe’s jab is something to watch, like everything he does.
Joe Louis is in boxing the embodiment of grace. Fluency in movements, together with accuracy in his punches makes him the perfect boxer..
He was good but Marciano knocked him out of the ring. Yes Lous was older but he had a 3 fight win streak going into the fight
@@johnreidy2804 Marciano was an extremely powerful puncher. Still, the fact Louis was older when he was knocked out makes for a great "who had won in a fight had they both been in their prime" guess. Don't you think so?
@@mirazusta2002 Louis was 38 at the time and not in his prime. So, yes, I do wonder who would have own prime for prime.
But we must also consider that Louis had a 3-fight win streak he was coming off of. So, he still had a lot left in the tank. 38 is not 58 friend
@@johnreidy2804 Yea, of course, some topnoch boxers, like Joe Louis, were still on top form in their late thirties, even early forties (Ali, Holmes, Foreman and Frazier are some other illustruous examples,) the question remains, though, what was the age gap between Louis and Marciano. I think this to be an important question, specially taking into account Marciano was no ordinary fighter by any standards, he was a freak of nature, a beast in a league of his own, kind of a 50s white version of a Mike Tyson from the 80s when it comes to firepower and overall toughness, if you Know what I mean. What I'm trying to say is that we will never know who''d have won if these two greats had been comtempories in career terms.
@@mirazusta2002 Oh I agree with you 100%.
I'd love to see all the greats in their prime enter a tournament. Ha
Man Joe was a monster, but Max was tough as tough can be. Baer kept getting up 😨
Yeah, Louis kept shutting him up while extending the length of his beating, that retired him and turned him into an actor. Quite sure he never forgot that beating the rest of his life.
@@frank-ko6dehe fought on for another 6 years. Even called out Louis for a rematch following his win over Galento.
@@Chris-tp8db I quite sure he didn't mean that. Especially after he saw the way Louis easily smacked his much bigger little brother around. Buddy Baer was his name.
@@frank-ko6de I guess we can’t know if he really meant it or not, but Louis certainly didn’t retire him. He fought over 30 times after that fight.
@@Chris-tp8db So, he fought at the same level as before he fought Louis, or just journeymen?
Absolutely unbelievable combinations and speed from Louis! Wow
One of Joe's best performances. Baer wasn't able to use his back-handers like he did against Schmeling. In the end he was afraid to even throw his right hand.
24 fight in 14months wow professinal now an days fight once a year
Yeah well they were really being taken advantage of by promoters back then. They still are but not like back then.
@@tommygun5038 Maybe so, but also that's how they learned their craft. Modern fighters are incredible athletes but many don't really understand footwork, body punching, and how to put combinations together. Watch Louis, no wasted motion, he has a reason for everything he does in the ring. Watch vids of Willie Pep and Billy Graham. Those guys couldn't punch, but they were such great technical boxers they won almost every fight. Pep had over 200 fights, Graham over 100.
Those old films only had the capability to run at 18 frames per second, no where near modern technology. That's why they play slow. If Louis's films were in color and high definition like modern films he would be even more impressive. He was an amazing fighter and arguably the Greatest of all times.
100%
For me...the Brown Bomber is #1.
My favorite in History.
He's great but not a heavyweight.
Didn't fight black fighters I heard
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Absolutely was a heavyweight! Calling him a cruiserweight is based on misinformation. His weight is almost exactly the same as Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston at the same stages of their careers. Heavyweights are considered in their prime years between the ages of 28 and 32. Louis was weighing 208 before missing 4 years and 3 months of his career due to WWII. When he returned he generally fought at 212. Larry Holmes became Champion at age 29 weighing 209 and Liston was 30 when he won the Championship at 212.
As far as black fighters are concerned he defended his crown against Jersey Joe Walcott and John Henry Lewis both champions. He also defeated several black fighters in the amateurs and several more as he worked his way up the ranks as a professional. Because of the racism, promoters back then didn't pit black fighters against each other. The goal was to return the Championship to a white fighter, so that's why he fought mostly white challengers. Louis is never given the credit he deserves for his part in integrating the Armed services and opening the door for all the other black heavyweights to follow him. Hope this helps 🙂
@@jeffriessman9693 joe louis did but not too many. I dont think he had a big say in who he was fighting as a champ
Joe Louis was an amazing counter puncher, beside all his other abilities as a boxer. A young Joe Louis would be hard to beat in any era. What a legend. Awesome job in the restoration of this classic film. 👏
Yes. This fight was one of his best performances
Watching a prime Joe Louis is a thing of beauty-perfect balance andpositioning-deadly accuracy -legendary power-and Maxie was one tough opponent but completely outclassed by Louis. Joe was so far ahead of everyone else skill wise-
Wtf is that comment
One of Joe Louis’ best fights and Max Baer’s worst. Baer had zero boxing skills, a pure slugger. Baer’s best fight was against Max Schmeling.
I thought Baer was going to kill that guy.
Fighters back in this era were so accurate with their punches.
Joe Louis was the greatest Champion boxing has ever known as well as being a great American.
No, he wasn't.
fra i massimi di quei pesi, di quel tempo si, ma credo che Robinson , se parliamo di valore assoluto, pound for pound sia stato ancora meglio, Robinson aveva qualcosa in piu' di tutti.
Damn, Louis had class, style and grit!
Look at these legends compared to the boring heavyweights of today
Most heavyweight right now are better than baer. So your claim is biased
49-0 😁
Pleased that Joe Louis is remembered with the suspended iron fist sculpture in Detroit
Louis would've probably beaten Maxie no matter what. BUT, it's a known fact that after Maxie killed Frankie Campbell with the tremendous overhand right he was born with, he was never the same in the ring again. He lost 4 of his next 6 fights. He had nightmares for years about killing Campbell. That's why Jim Braddock beat him. Maxie was afraid to throw the punch again with bad intentions. In the Louis fight, his right hand, broken in the Braddock fight, hadnt healed yet, and he basically fought Louis with one hand.
Wow, sweet left jab!
This was a true heavyweight slugfest. Baer was very tough and good, Louis was Great.
This was Louis' best performance
Lucky for Max, Louis wasn't mad. He was against Schmeling in the 2nd fight.
The Brown Bomber in his prime is in the argument of Greatest Of All Time.
Exactly.
Facing Baer is a far cry from facing a prime Frazier, Ali, Norton, Holmes, Lennox Lewis, and big bad George Foreman. I love Louis, but in his own Era! They just got to advanced. I think if born in a different Era, he would fight much differently and be very competitive. He would have to to survive.
No debate on that at all. This Baer fight was the Bomber's "best" in his legendary boxing career.
What a hell of an a$$ whooping 😅 Joe Louis was another level
Only two textbook fighters I would pay to watch and they are Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robinson.
The REAL 'Sugar Ray' Robinson was always said to be the best pound for pound boxer in history. He held titles in many weight categories.
Louis's footwork is amazing...
Max Baer sure had a big heart! He took a ton of bombs from the great Louis and stood his ground. Joe was just a machine at his prime! I wish there was a time machine so I could meet Joe Louis and shake his hand!
I wish I could have met them both! Don't forget, Max Baer's Son was Jethro on The Beverly Hillbillies. Growing up, Jethro was my favorite character on the show.
Joe Louis is impressive. Baer would try and swarm him with quick successive punches, as per his usual style, but Louis would recover, defend, throw a well-placed punch at Baer's face to stun him and swarm back with a quick succession of hits. A really great fighter.
Max was pretty big
Didn't realize how fast Joe was. Not the biggest heavyweight either or hardest puncher but put together combinations. Reminds me of Ali.
Except he had a more conventional defense and more punching power. Ali wasn't just quick with his hands, he could move his head and make a lot of people miss early in his career. Would be a dream to see them fight in their primes.
All I can hear every time I see Joe Louis is Eddie Murphy as the barber in 'Coming to America' talking about Joe. "Joe was 175 years old when he fought..."
24 fights in 14 month's, Insanity
Most people don't know that Baer was fighting Louis with a broken right hand, an injury he sustained in his previous fight with James Braddock.
At the end of the first round Louis really opened up on Baer!
After that first round Baer looked like it was the 15th. He looked dead on his feet!
Joe's combinations, man. Awesome
Baer had nothing left in this fight. He wasn't even close to the same fighter that beat Carnera. It's sad seeing guys get old and lose their skills.
He wasn’t that old-- maybe 27. Probably didn’t train that hard
@@stevea6816 Correct it was Max's lifestyle that cost him, not his age!
Joe was a great combo puncher with lethal speed & power. Honestly, could Bear be any more stationary or less mobile. Joe is basically punching a heavy bag in the gym.
Great fight, better than any modern fight from 2005 and up.
I would agree with you for the most part accept for fury vs wilder 3. That’s the best boxing fight in history imo.
I disagree, 2005 and up had some bangers vazquez v Marquez trilogy, Corrales vs Castillo, pacquiao v morales..ya gott be more specific
@@jamesbaka1206 ha ha ha🤣
Shutup😂😂😂it’s a good fight but there’s been better ones since
@@jamesbaka1206good joke 😂😂😂
Joe Louis in his prime would have given Ali all he could handle. I say that having seen every one of Ali's fights from the time he won Olympic Medal, and was known by his given name, Cassius Clay. I consider Ali the greatest, but Joe Louis could prove me wrong I think.
Joe was a great boxer
Technical Masterpiece!🥊
After he killed the guy in the ring Baer was never the same. He also had a bigger brother buddy also a boxer / actor.
too bad we don't have the actually radio call here in those days they were so detailed & vivid in theatre
88 years ago.
Another observation about Louis jab can be seen in the video. It is what Max Schmeling saw. Joe lowers his left glove after throwing his jab. In the first fight with Max Schmeling timed Joe’s dropping of his left jab with numerous pulverizing right crosses.
Yeah, Joe corrected that problem -- a very hard lesson learned.
Louis bringing his hand back up wouldn't have helped him all that much against Schmeling.
Max hit him with a right cross as soon as Louis extended his left hand.
The problem was that Max knew how to perfectly counter the jab.
That's why Louis almost didn't jab once in the rematch. He knew Max would counter it.
Just 90 days earlier Baer was still champion. He gave it all he had in that first round flurry and Louis walked right through it.
There hasn't been another fighter like the Brown Bomber...ever.
Some say he's slow and plods along...but man, Joe's sweet science eludes them...!
On a side note, had Joe not been screwed over due to the IRS tax BS...he would have ended his career with an impressive 56 wins to 1 loss...!
Still to this day, he holds the longest continuous Heavy weight title of 11 years and 8 months...!
By far, my favorite boxer in History and he was one heck of a Good man, too.
HOO-YAH & God Bless Joe's memory and wonderful soul.
I hear so much praise for Marciano but I was never impressed by him. He fought 6 great fighters including an old Joe Louis, the rest were no-names. My top guys were Ali, Louis, Dempsey. All different styles but invincible.
@@tonymazz9912
Marciano was one tough dude & his stamina was phenomenal...and he hit like a mac truck.
However, he fought in a time where his opponents weren't as noteworthy as Ali's and Louis'...imho.
Perhaps once we pass from our mortal coil, we might get to see dream match's of cross era boxers...but we can only speculate how such match's might turn out but for me...I favor a prime Joe Louis over anyone.
There just simply hasn't been a boxer like him...ever.
His style was...perfect...Blackburn forged an incredibly unique fighter.
The "Mechanical Wonder." (Look for that video and watch it...worth it!)
I honestly believe Joe held back. I say this because of what we got to see in his 2nd fight with Max Schmelling. We NEVER got to see THAT Joe Louis again...he unleashed himself and simply destroyed Max.
As far as I'm concerned...no boxer in History beats the Brown Bomber on that June night in 1938.
Joe was such a really nice guy...much like Max Baer who had already killed 2 guys in the ring. Neither really wanted to hurt anyone and both could punch harder than most people.
So with all the what if's and maybe's...we all really do have to remember that if Joe hadn't been forced out of retirement...his record would have been 56 wins to 1 loss.
For me...that's how I think of Joe Louis...and all we have are statistics to go with.
So this means we really do have to respect the undefeated Marciano...and recognize that he definitely had a "punchers chance".
@@tonymazz9912 louis fought Walcott when he was old too ..Louis was just a lil younger but Walcott was older it’s no excuses it’s a grown man sport ..if Louis or Walcott thought cause they was old and couldn’t beat Marciano they wouldn’t have fought him ..I just feel like you have too have a chin for Marciano cause if not it’s over !that was Louis only weakness his chin it was questionable..if he fought Marciano younger it woulda been the same thing cause of his chin facing a guy like Marciano.joe Louis and Marciano are both in my top 5 heavyweights.no Order ..
1.Marciano
2.louis
3.David tua
4.Cleveland Williams
5.Mike Tyson/foreman /Sonny Liston
Black fighters had to win 60 fights in order to get a tittle shot back then.
The fighter Joe lost to , never got that chance for example.
@@Theking-es9ie Muhammad Ali beat 3 of the guys on your list.
Fought 24 times in a span of 14 months. Everytime I learn something new about Louis it further solidifies for me why he's the greatest HWC of all time. The 25 straight title defenses is unfathomable and puts him over the hump for me, all due respect to Ali and Maurciano.
Max Baer showed a chin against the monster primo carnera and Joe Louis a man half the size of primo knocked him out inside the first 3rd of the fight incredible power
Joe Louis best ever ❤❤😩 rest in peace
Joe Louis y Sugar Robinzon inventaron el Boxeo moderno los demás paresia peleadora callejeros a comparación de los dos más grandes de todos los tiempos
Given how easily Baer dispatched Max Schmeling in 1933 and Schmeling's K.O of Louis in 1936....this bout was quite surprising....how easily Louis beat Baer...Baer never hurt him, and got only one good flurry in on Louis in the first round. Both men packed equalling powerful punching ability, but of course Louis was the superior tactical fighter.
Schmeling had his worst performance against Baer. But yeah, Baer was completely outclassed in this one.
Most interviews Joe Louis called this his best fight .
A fighter (it might have been Ezzard Charles) was asked what it felt like to be hit by Joe Louis. He replied “take a metal garbage can filled with bricks and hang it from a rope. Swing it out as far as you can and let it swing back and hit you in the face. That’s what it feels like”.
Joe louis was fast, and definitely the most technical heavyweight of all time. If Louis fought Ali, it would probably be the greatest fight in boxing history.
But who would win? I think
Ali if he didn’t get caught would tie him up and outbox him
Agreed...it would be better than most would think.
I favor the Brown Bomber.
@@petesibley-km9gg I think Ali could win, if he stayed on his bicycle and danced for 15 rounds. But Ali wasn't technically skilled like Louis. He tended to get careless and was knocked down by Henry Cooper, a mediocre English heavyweight, not to mention Joe Frazier. Ali would have to fight a perfect fight to beat Louis, if he made a mistake Louis would be all over it. If I had to bet on a fight between them when both were at their peak, I'd have to go with Louis, but I wouldn't be shocked if Ali won.
@@karlkellar8614 Ali was much faster. Could dance for 15 rounds.Fastest jab on record. Lewis would beat a 70's Ali.Ali was banned for 4 years. Much slower.
A 1967 Ali would beat Lewis. We never even saw a prime Ali. If Ali was losing a fight he changed his strategy.
@@jeffriessman9693
May I suggest you to watch Ali vs Doug Jones. Ali was hittable.
Louis in my top 5 of heavyweights
Max was a drunker man, and never trained for serious, and gave to Braddock the BELT OF A champion😊❤
That was a clinic.
Back in those days you could say: "That 'BOY'S' got everything!" LOL!!
Louis scored more knckdowns than Baer landed punches.
He had just got married that day so he probably wanted to hurry up and get back to his wife, who was fine as hell.
It's nice to see a young Joe Louis. Baer had no effective jab. He just pawed to try and keep Louis away. It's hard to believe he was a champion. He looked to me like a palooka who could certainly take a punch.
واقعا لذت بردم❤
Joe louis was so accuate with all his punches nothing wasted,perfect stance great shape the only question mark could he fight with the fighters of today highly unlikely todays fighters weigh between 245 up to 300 lbs and stand 6 4 inches to 7 ft and hit like a mack truck and are fast as grease lighting this is the greatest ear .
First, size in a heayyweight isn't always decisive, just look at Carnera and Willard. Second, that's why we have weight classes in boxing. 175 for a heavyweight is totally outdated, there should be cruiseweight (175-200), heavyweight (200 to, say, 225), and superheavyweight (over 225).
На мой взгляд, ----- мастерство Джо Луиса столь высоко, что даже в наше время, он был бы одним из самых лучших!
If Andy Ruiz and Usyk can compete with them, then Louis certainly can too.
Max couldn’t have been the same after this fight. Brutal!!
Joe Louis was a brutal puncher. I still think he was to slow for Ali though. Especially the Ali we would have seen what would have been the three prime years of his career that he wasn't allowed to box.
What oz gloves they use back then?
2:13 Joe removes Max's hand from his head so he can go on beating him. 😂😂😂
Joe was pretty fast on his feet here
1:43 Nice headbutt, Max
Joe Louis is the proof that you don't need to be naturally gifted to become successful. ❤
He was gifted physically. Wasnt he
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor No man. Unlike other boxers, he didn't have an exceptional physical build. He was a hard hitter but wasn't a natural hard hitter like Earnie shavers or Joe frazier.
@@Hicom310 the rights seem to be. Look how tall he is and wide. Natural puncher
I heard max baer was sick this day or something wrong with his hand
Either way he was never gonna beat louis.
@@LegendsofBoxinginColorHe would have lasted longer tho
@@AXL664
Yes, Baer wasn't 100%...but again, it wouldn't have mattered.
Joe's known as perhaps one of the best during his prime.
(He wouldn't have lost to Rocky or Ezzard, if he was...)
@@BrotherPatriot Ik but its possible bear wouldve went all rounds with Louis.
@@AXL664
We'll never know...but yeah...imho, no one beats a prime Joe Louis.
He beat all the Champions before him that were still fighting and continuously held the Heavy Weight Title the longest in History, still to this day...11 years and 8 months. Defending it 25 times.
He was unique and no one...NO ONE...has successfully emulated his style.
The Brown Bomber is known as the most technically accurate boxer in History.
Hey...here's one of my hopes.
God willing...if He allows it...once in Heaven, maybe we'll be able to see all of the greats in their prime and they can settle this for us in the ring?
One can dream...!!!
;)
Both Boxers Were Great!!!! 😮
When Joe was in his prime , it was a thing of beauty ...... and shame on the U.S. Govt for how they treated Joe .
Max started out as a force in Boxing with raw power , never a gifted boxer just a powerful right hand and a iron jaw. his potential career was destroyed by his fight with Frankie Campbell who died from the beating he took from Baer ...After getting hit by a thunderous right hand , he told his corner that something snapped in his head ... after going down he never revived and was pronounced dead in the hospital... Baer, who was a jolly ,easy going , fun loving man, never fully recovered from that disaster ... He swore when he came back to boxing that he would never hit another man as hard as he could...
Foi mole para Louis... Baer já era um veterano. Puseram um garoto pra lutar contra ele... mas os verdadeiros boxers não "arregam". Salvo engano, o Louis vinha de mais de 15 nocautes consecutivos ( não sei precisar qtos) o cara era uma máquina de bater!
Max baer un boxeador de mucha fuerza pero Joe Louis era un fuera de serie mucha diferencia entre los dos 😊
If Baer had boxing skills it wouldn't have been any good against Lewis!!! Lol 😂
Louis once said he never felt better then on this night and it showed. While Baer might have gotten up again he said you'd have to pay more than $25 (ringside price at the time) to see me get slaughtered. Frankly, Baer was never a good boxer but he had a terrific right hand and a sturdy chin which was good enough against average or even above-average talent, just not when he faced a great fighter.
I was responding to your comment that Louis retired Baer. He didn’t.
Baer made Tex Cobb look like a defensive genius.
Max Baer was 6’7 and Joe was 6’1 and over 10 pounds lighter
I say this because the same way Joe knocked out a refined Max Baer would’ve been the same for a just as big Tyson Fury and wild Wilder of today
Joe would’ve crushed the heavyweights today
I also pick louis over fury
Buddy Baer was 6'6. His brother, Max, was 6'3
@@LegendsofBoxinginColorI don't like Fury but 60 pounds heavier. Lewis is a light Heavyweight and Fury is a super heavyweight.
NEVER a doubt. Joe Lewis won every round.
I believe that Louis had not even fought a year as a pro when he beat Baer. But as Schmelling perhaps watched in this fight, I SEE SOMETHING. Supposably Baer had an injured hand.
OMG, Jethro’s father vs Joe?!?! Never realized he fought Joe but knew that he was a boxer. He could take a punch and took quite a few from Joe…But a few too many…
It's easy to say that Ali would've beaten Louis. I don't know about that. If Louis at his peak was brought to Ali's time and allowed to watch Ali's fights, Louis would have crafted his approach differently. Louis was a master of learning from his fights. He always did better the second time he fought the same opponent.
I think so too, Louis would do mich better than people think or even win by ko
Can't believe the Ref didn't clean Baer's gloves off after he hit the canvas, what about the resin???
Dude Joe's jab must be hitting 75% of the time Max's head looks like one of those bobble head dolls they give at baseball games very sad but very true