@@tachacastilho First ECAM action states LAND ASAP. Due to the fact that you can't clearly assess the reason of the dual engine failure (eg: fuel contamination), it might happen again while you're jettisoning to reduce weight. If times permits, overweight checklist has to be run but any weight above max landing weight won't restrict you to land. Just a much needed maintenance will be required for the engines and the overweight landing after an exciting day at work!
@@pierre-olivierdebrogniez2155 That’s true! Maybe I got confused with a SINGLE ENG failure...but yes, landing ASAP should always be applied in this case. Thanks for the enlightenment! Safe flights.
They should make it really realistic and have ATC asking them to repeat the emergency because they weren’t paying attention to the mayday, and then have ATC bother them with souls and fuel on board and other stuff while they’re trying to run the checklists.
Forgive my ignorance if this is wrong, but I love how the aircraft politely reccomends that you "LAND ASAP" on the message display... Just in case the pilot fancied a bit of a glide instead...
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Well, it actually happened a lot in the past that some pilots became over-focused on trying to restart the engines (which is possible but not guaranteed to succeed, sometimes at high altitude the engine core may freeze "locked" after a shutdown) that they decided too late to try to land instead. Now procedure is to try to land regardless, even if the engines restarted during descent.
@@Alislug What they're saying is "isn't it obvious that you should land ASAP? there's no need for the checklist to state the obvious." But, no, there _is_ a need for the checklist to state the obvious. Emergencies are high stress situations, so it helps to make procedures super clear, and keeps pilots from having to overthink it.
Such emergency scenarios truly shows us the importance of good CRM and swift decision making. Kudos to the pilots and thanks for sharing this awesome video :)
@@herobo123456 they are all German. It’s fine. ATC and official coms all in perfectly good English and non SOP words in German also fine. You’ll find this all over the world in professional flight decks. English over the air, easing checklists and all calls and replies, and conversation in their national language. It’s how it is.
And yet its human error that causes most accidents. Trusting your instincts instead of the instruments. Your instincts often lie to you in a plane, like you could feel like youre banking to the right when youre not, so you correct to left, thinking the instruments are broken.
As long as your ram air turbine comes out you have electrical power and hydraulics. That gives you enough time to get the APU started. As long as you’re near a runaway it’s doable. Overwater would be scary.
If I could have this simulator, nobody would ever see me again. I know that it’s a state of the art training tool, but holy hell would it be an amazing toy!
Pilots are incredible under pressure, ik this is a sim but if you listen to cvr recordings of accidents the pilots almost always stay super calm and fight all the way to the end. People like to talk about crashes but the amount of malfunctioning planes that have been saved is incredible. For every crash, there was 500 successful emergency landings.
IRL: “How many souls on board? Do you require fire trucks? Would you not be able to make it over to this other airport?” That’s what I always hear on these real life emergencies
Somewhere in the future in 797 two engines flame out. Landing checklist: - Coffe & milk: set and check - Sugar: On and Available landing checklist completed.
According to that one Japanese CGI video that's been making the rounds on Reddit, the correct response to a dual-engine fire is to eject the fuselage which will land safely with a parachute while the rest of the plane crashes into a hill.
According to that one CGI video from some random bugger on a demented site, the correct response to a dual-engine fire is to eject the fuselage from the plane at around 10s of thousands of feet while the still burning plane crashes onto unsuspecting crowds below
Because it's an automatic fill checklist, it doesn't show all things already done. Another exemple is Parking Checklist : "Parking checklist - Parking Brake : On Checklist completed"
This just gave me a new found confidence in flying. Lately I have been fearful of flying. I don't know why. I know statistically and all that stuff that you're more likely to die on your way to the airport then die in a plane crash but the difference between a plane crash and a car wreck is a 35,000 foot fall back to earth.. ANYWAYS it's extremely comforting to know that if both engines fail, we can still glide into an emergency landing. Still dangerous and deadly but survivable.
It is nice to see how effective modern systems can support the pilots. APU auto-start, Engine auto-start. Why isn‘t there a auto-deploy of RAT? I would guess that this is the best and fastes way to make sure, that there is a power supply for the cockpit.
There is a system for it to deploy automaticly - but the reason for such training is, that systems can fail. So if it fails, you have to activate it manually.
Yep, preatty sure about that. Not only Airbus can deplay RAT automatically. IIRC Boeings can do that aswel. Also automatic checklist in the way Airbus does it seems very friendly and clear.
I believe that ETOPS certification prevents this scenario from happening. All twin-engined planes are restricted to fly in certain areas only where they are a certain number of minutes away from an airport. This way, they will be able to land should an emergency occur.
Visaural ETOPS is designed for single engine out however.. I think the maximum time usually is about 300-350 minutes. you. Airbus A350 can have ETOPS-370(minutes).. Basically this means the plane can fly 6 hours to it's diversion airport on one engine. Consequently this also means that it is impossible to be able to glide to an airport if flying with no engines and extreme ETOPS.. I'd vaguer the A350 can glide for about 200km depending on conditions. With a speed of 250knots, that'll only be around 25 minutes of flying.
Nice automation. Very helpful aircraft. It is interesting to see European pilots are trained in proper communications technique. Americans know that Mayday is a word, but they almost never say it, just "declaring an emergency". And then never mention it again. This and the Thompson bird strike at Manchester Ringway are excellent examples of how you are supposed to make certain everyone knows you are in a life threatening position and need absolutely first priority handling. I have even heard an American in an emergency being given lower priority because ATC didn't know or had forgotten.
"Declaring an emergency" is the equivalency of using ICAO's "PAN PAN" X 3 phraseology. There are some countries (e.g. USA, Japan, China) that do not recognise the term "PAN PAN" thus the only way to ensure priority assistance would be by either transmitting, "Mayday" X 3 (grave or imminent danger) or "Declaring an emergency". ATC will cease all airport movement (basically shut down the entire airport and alert hospitals at a high priority) if an aircraft declares a Mayday. If the aircraft downgrades the Mayday to a PAN PAN call after the non normal checklists are completed, then the airport authority will block one runway for the emergency aircraft and allow the airport traffic to resume operations. This is the reason why the Thompson birdstrike was told, " All runways available for landing". Had 'he' declared a PAN PAN, he then could've requested the longest runway available and it would be granted.
bicycle chain falls off. right brake, both feet on the ground, proceed problem evaluation, grease on the hands check, engage right pedal for tensioning,proceed to your destination.
Would be awesome if they could actually simulate a decompression by reducing the pressure in the simulator. This way pilots could be trained on the effects of hypoxia.
@@sunnyyan1080 I was under the impression most airlines changed their checklists so that putting on your mask is the first step after the South Dakota "ghost flight" Learjet incident in the late '90s, it was found that the pilots had waited too long to deploy their masks and had gone hypoxic leading to the crash and the deaths of everyone aboard. Even after just 30 seconds in reduced oxygen you can be seriously cognitively impaired.
Sarah Riedel that was because the cabin altitude rose with the aircrafts altitude and exceeded 10,000ft because it wasn’t pressurised in the first place. In this scenario the cabin would be pressurised at 6000ft. When the engines failed the cabin altitude would slowly rise but not excessively so they’d have a few minutes until the cabin altitude reached 10,000ft
Can we get serious now? They were expecting dual engine failures, they know how to react and know exactly where to land. You don't take human factor in real life when this really happens.
They didn’t, this was a test for instructors, making sure they know their shit. Often days the pilots don’t know if they will get a emergency, they changed it since sully.
They always know exactly where they land, since they discuss diverting airports along the whole route on briefing before the flight. So in case of an emergency, they immediately have their site to land for each point along the route. Of course it also depends on the immediate conditions.
first of all, the exchange between Sully and the NTSB in the movie is fabricated and made for dramatization the NTSB were very much on Sully's side in the actual investigation the movie just vilified them for Dramatization, second pilots are prepared for dual engine failure, third what Sully in the movie was talking about was making the most optimal decision so as to land the A320 and that's impossible to do, but real world pilots are very very prepared for failures but yes they might not make the most optimal decision, they can get very close to the most optimal decision thats why checklists exist.
Aircraft nowadays! To those (me included) who find themselves difficult to move on from A340, A300, MD-11, B767/757, B744, etc... you gotta let it go before being left far behind
Excellent video, thanks. Also, the guy right at the end, standing up in the corner, is he a Swissair Pilot, he resembles and sounds like on of their Captains I`ve seen on RUclips? Thanks again!
Great video. If you have the Pretrip and post trip break down I would love to be a fly on the wall. No one is perfect and would love to hear what the instructor had to beef about the sim session
I wanted them to land with no engines at all! The engine coming back was anticlimatic. Of course if I were up there I would pray for the engines to restart, but this was a simulator.
Not the A350 but in the A320 the crew of US Airways 1549 had dual engine flameout at about 3000 ft. They were just as professional and collected in the cockpit voice recorder as these guys, and they had a lot less decision making time.
I know this is only a simulator, but i'm sitting here scared as hell for these 2 guys, but wow did they handle that perfectly. I hope never to be a part of that experience.
Pilot: it was your turn to pump the gas this time right? Co-Pilot: huh? No, I was on snack duty! Remember "don't forget my Slim Jim's & Root Beer this time!" as you were heading towards the plane!....You stopped to play DCS World on the Oculus Rift again didn't you!!! Pilot:.....you sure it wasn't your turn?
Airliner today.. even when u lost both engine u can still use autopilot & autothrust, all u gotta do is follow the ECAM "computer" of what to do, more like a system operator instead of a pilot 😅 Well that's progress, making the worst possible scenario easier to manage
It's not a rapid depressurization, as with a dual engine failure, only the bleed air source is cut off... Hence there is still enough oxygen and pressure in the cabin to do the most important stuff first...
Because it’s not a rapid depressurisation. The air will leak out very slowly so you have time. If the cabin altitude passed 10000ft a new alarm would go off taking priority over the engine failure then they would put the masks on
msi only when the cabin altitude warning passes 10,000ft or a check lists tells you do you then put the mask on. Air won’t leak out that rapid during engine failure
Great for CRM training and the crew at the back know what happens in the flight deck and how busy they get when something happens BUT… The passenger masks were not released until minutes after the pilots, there was no call to the purser to secure the cabin, not even an “emergency descent, emergency descent” PA so I can assure you there could still be carts in the middle of the cabin. CRM goes both ways, not only between pilots, but also how things are in the back and that your crew might need more time than you to prepare everything for landing/ditching. I often have to explain 3 times how to buckle the seatbelts to my passengers
If engines fail the aircraft does not depressurise immediately. The outflow valve closes trapping the air inside so it leaks out more slowly. Masks for crew is just precaution, they could wait for bit longer but the cabin altitude warning would disrupt the flow of the engine restart attempt.
My only concern with the procedure is why do the pilots put oxygen masks on when they come near the middle/bottom of the checklist? Shouldn't it be the first thing the pilots should do before assessing an emergency situation when losing both engines? Just wondering....
My thoughts would be there is enough oxygen in the cockpit to for the pilots to assess for a few minutes what's going on. Overtime, the oxygen supply would be depleted but the pilots will already put on the gas masks. So yeah I could be wrong here.
@ncsakany loss of engines --> loss of compressor bleed air --> loss of cabin pressure. however it might take some time for the remainder of the pressure to leak out.
I'm not a pilot myself but I have seen quite a few crash investigation episodes and heard the talk from CVRs between confused pilots and the tower when "situations" occur. There is just NO way that ones mind, after thousands up on thousands hours up in the air (with nothing of this like of a problem), just accepts a sudden dual engine failure like these two do. It would sure take a few seconds for the brain of the pilots to just silently process the information of this unusual kind. Their thoughts would have been somewhere completely else during this part of the flight, autopilot and all. They would probably not really believe what they saw and start to check and re-check their instruments, talk about the situation, confirm things again and again, suppress the naturally occurring panic (ones life in danger), try a few manoeuvres .. the seconds fly away. When they finally contact the tower, stating dual engine failure, even the tower will most probably have a hard time comprehend this unusual situation; asking what engine failed .. and the pilots would have to repeat themselves. Seconds again. And then some decision making, masks, divert to where (does the computer really know where to go best? - has to be confirmed), the cabin crew need to know, contact the company (I don't know, maybe?), and so on ... Okay, as I said in the beginning, I'm not a pilot. But if something of this magnitude would happen when I'm out driving my car there is no way I would just do the perfect simulation thing and stop the car right on the side of the road. My brain would have to process so many more things than just to hit the brakes just because a driving teacher once told me to. You need to take things in before you can act, and when ones life is in jeopardy you focus hard on doing everything right - trying to remember every step you've trained for, this takes time. There are simulations, theory and then there is reality. Anyway, thanks for the video. Thumbs up for sharing the video although I do not agree with the contents of it. =)
@@msbxii Hi Eric. Thanks for replying. I have no doubt that the simulator and training is effective as to get to an almost automatic response. But the keyword I would look at is "almost". Because: I also have no doubt that a pilot would have to analyse the situation much more thoroughly before getting into this automatic state; like listen to engine noises, listen to aircraft noises, get the feeling for controlling the plane again, check fuel, check fault lights, check other things that I don't know of (because I'm not a pilot), at least a few seconds of reflecting with each other ... before getting to that automatic state that they trained for. That's what I was trying to say. Theory vs reality, something that makes us humans.
M R Then that is why you are not suitable of becoming a pilot. As a pilot, you should never, ever, ignore a certain warning or push a possible scenario away. Watch the Mentour channel explaining how all the stuff works and how pilots think. That will help you a lot in your understanding of how the aviation industry works. They even prepare before the flight, with deviation airports and procedures, at every point of their route. They think and act in the way, „better safe than sorry“, with everything they do.
Engine says dual engine failure. They’d probably also realise that it’s gone quiet, their instruments have suddenly stopped working and a ton of warning lights go on and alarms. That is enough to realise you have dual engine failure. And that’s why airbus has ECAM actions. You immediately follow them do your brain isn’t wondering “umm errr what do I do now”
4:43 "We are overweight but it's no big deal"
Oktoberfest is no joke
10/10 joke hahah
Right, wouldn’t it be better to burn some fuel before landing? That’s my doubt here.
@@tachacastilho First ECAM action states LAND ASAP. Due to the fact that you can't clearly assess the reason of the dual engine failure (eg: fuel contamination), it might happen again while you're jettisoning to reduce weight. If times permits, overweight checklist has to be run but any weight above max landing weight won't restrict you to land. Just a much needed maintenance will be required for the engines and the overweight landing after an exciting day at work!
@@pierre-olivierdebrogniez2155 That’s true! Maybe I got confused with a SINGLE ENG failure...but yes, landing ASAP should always be applied in this case. Thanks for the enlightenment! Safe flights.
**laughs in 200 tons**
They should make it really realistic and have ATC asking them to repeat the emergency because they weren’t paying attention to the mayday, and then have ATC bother them with souls and fuel on board and other stuff while they’re trying to run the checklists.
🤣🤣
In reality the pilots can ignore ATC until a suitable time. They are not obliged to immediately reply to ATC. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate
Pilot: "Mayday Mayday Mayday dual engine flameout we are descending"
ATC: "...Ahhh so you wanna declare an emergency or?"
@@Sarah.Riedel doesn't mayday call automatically declares an emergency?
@@angelkilier it's supposed to yes, that was the joke lol.
Simulator is worth more than an entire neighborhood.
Simulators costing more than an entire neighborhood are made so you usually don't destroy an entire neighborhood.
Aaron de Bruyn lol true 😂
I'd be concerned if it's only worth one house.
Depends if its a neighbourhood in Beverly Hills, all those mega-mansions owned by film stars and Kardashians..heck of a lot of $$$.
A simulation like this can cost to 10milion euros up to 20milion
Forgive my ignorance if this is wrong, but I love how the aircraft politely reccomends that you "LAND ASAP" on the message display... Just in case the pilot fancied a bit of a glide instead...
Well, it actually happened a lot in the past that some pilots became over-focused on trying to restart the engines (which is possible but not guaranteed to succeed, sometimes at high altitude the engine core may freeze "locked" after a shutdown) that they decided too late to try to land instead.
Now procedure is to try to land regardless, even if the engines restarted during descent.
I dont understand. It is correct no? Land ASAP whats wrong with it
@@Alislug What they're saying is "isn't it obvious that you should land ASAP? there's no need for the checklist to state the obvious." But, no, there _is_ a need for the checklist to state the obvious. Emergencies are high stress situations, so it helps to make procedures super clear, and keeps pilots from having to overthink it.
"We are overweight but it's no big deal"
"Dump 1/3 of the economy class passengers"
🤣
"Engines not good, flame out"
"okay"
I wish I had this simulator in my back yard
Manny L it’s dead cheap compare to real one plus cost of running and risk. Also you don’t have to worry about some treehuggers glued to runways,
once youre at a cruise level and AP is on and fmc is edited, there isnt much to do. its cool but not that worth it
me directrly in bedroom
Bob I’m glad I don’t have one, I think the outside world would become non existent to me 😂😂
Might get a bit wet
zis is not gute
lol
I akree
Hans vee aar fackt
That’s some german dudes they can’t speak well
Get to da Chappa Now!! Go!!
So they had an all-engine flame out and the lives of everyone in board is at risk.
Germans: It was a little exciting
yeah. cause this is a simulator.
Germans: it's chill, we have checklists and routines ^^,
@@msi4887 dont ruin that joke dude...
@@x_x_x_x7367 his was funnier lol
world's 10 don’t do it don’t do it don’t do it control yourself.... R/WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSHHHHHHH
Such emergency scenarios truly shows us the importance of good CRM and swift decision making. Kudos to the pilots and thanks for sharing this awesome video :)
ya speaking both english and German on the flight deck is a great start for good CRM LOL
Well I fought it stands for communicate react management
@@herobo123456 they are all German. It’s fine. ATC and official coms all in perfectly good English and non SOP words in German also fine. You’ll find this all over the world in professional flight decks. English over the air, easing checklists and all calls and replies, and conversation in their national language. It’s how it is.
I recommend this video to anyone with a fear of flying. The competence and professionalism on display is seriously impressive.
And yet its human error that causes most accidents. Trusting your instincts instead of the instruments. Your instincts often lie to you in a plane, like you could feel like youre banking to the right when youre not, so you correct to left, thinking the instruments are broken.
instruments dont lie we have various and the plane is made to not make this loss of space@@rykehuss3435
No checklist item to change underwear?
made my day lol
That's the after Standing Checklist
LMAO
As long as your ram air turbine comes out you have electrical power and hydraulics. That gives you enough time to get the APU started. As long as you’re near a runaway it’s doable. Overwater would be scary.
Will Warden Isn‘t there a battery that covers until the APU is started or does it really depend on the RAM?
"Just for info, Wir sind overweight, it's no big deal na?"
their Denglish is hilarious.
Well i prefer Denglisch instead of Frengliché!
@@bongiovi7618 says the english speaking comunity after stealing words like "kindergarten"^^
If I could have this simulator, nobody would ever see me again. I know that it’s a state of the art training tool, but holy hell would it be an amazing toy!
It runs on diesel, so it'll be expensive to use
@@aadityadatir6456 wait what?
There's several across the US and you can buy flight time (or at least you could in the past IDK anymore).
@@KomradeDoge In germany too. You can rent the Lufthansa Aviation Training Sims.
From A380 to 747/400 they have everything lol
Pilots are incredible under pressure, ik this is a sim but if you listen to cvr recordings of accidents the pilots almost always stay super calm and fight all the way to the end. People like to talk about crashes but the amount of malfunctioning planes that have been saved is incredible. For every crash, there was 500 successful emergency landings.
ETOPS: Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim
That's a very old joke and maybe older than you lol
More like sink
Etops doesn’t apply in this situation
@Angus Does Humanities Wendover makes generic movies on basic knowledge with this overused animation style, you give it too much credit.
Equip Parachute
IRL: “How many souls on board? Do you require fire trucks? Would you not be able to make it over to this other airport?”
That’s what I always hear on these real life emergencies
Well, you could assume they cut that out to fit the flameout at cruise down to landing into a five minute video ;)
Somewhere in the future in 797 two engines flame out.
Landing checklist:
- Coffe & milk: set and check
- Sugar: On and Available
landing checklist completed.
Lol
That’s standard on Swiss aircrafts - with a lil but of chocolate 🍫
@@Mogry51 hahaha :)
According to my video game experience, they should deploy chaff, fire missiles and drop their bombs.
777jones according to an old highly realistic simulator I played on the N64, they need to do a barrel roll.
Reed20v ahhh yes, increasing speed by barrel rolling, Diddy king racing if I’m not mistaken
At least drop the bombs to reduce aircraft weight. Then no overweight landing???
According to that one Japanese CGI video that's been making the rounds on Reddit, the correct response to a dual-engine fire is to eject the fuselage which will land safely with a parachute while the rest of the plane crashes into a hill.
Crunge92 never specified if the captain went with the fuselage or they stayed with plane,
In most accidents nobody knows they’re going to crash, thats why that is useless
@@germantobon5498 also most accidents happen during takeoff and landing, where that system would be useless
At least they managed to eject the core, seems like half the time when the Enterprise tries it something goes wrong.
According to that one CGI video from some random bugger on a demented site, the correct response to a dual-engine fire is to eject the fuselage from the plane at around 10s of thousands of feet while the still burning plane crashes onto unsuspecting crowds below
"Landing checklist.
-Runway condition: Dry
Landing checklist completed" lol
Thanks for the likes guys ;)
Because it's an automatic fill checklist, it doesn't show all things already done.
Another exemple is Parking Checklist :
"Parking checklist
- Parking Brake : On
Checklist completed"
@@Elrs171 I know
@@Elrs171 airbus in 10 years:
aircraft startup checklist - start button.......push
aircraft startup checklist complete
Henry Chan Hey Siri，start the engine
Missed the Final check - Trousers Brown? - Check.
This just gave me a new found confidence in flying. Lately I have been fearful of flying. I don't know why. I know statistically and all that stuff that you're more likely to die on your way to the airport then die in a plane crash but the difference between a plane crash and a car wreck is a 35,000 foot fall back to earth.. ANYWAYS it's extremely comforting to know that if both engines fail, we can still glide into an emergency landing. Still dangerous and deadly but survivable.
Amazing teamwork! They did such a good hand in hand work! Well done!
It is nice to see how effective modern systems can support the pilots. APU auto-start, Engine auto-start.
Why isn‘t there a auto-deploy of RAT? I would guess that this is the best and fastes way to make sure, that there is a
power supply for the cockpit.
it should deploy automaticaly when both engines fail. i don't know why they had to extend it manually
There is a system for it to deploy automaticly - but the reason for such training is, that systems can fail. So if it fails, you have to activate it manually.
They merely confirmed that the rat deployed it did deploy.
never expect it to deploy manually especially seeing as both your million dollar, high tech and super reliable engines both failed
Yep, preatty sure about that. Not only Airbus can deplay RAT automatically. IIRC Boeings can do that aswel.
Also automatic checklist in the way Airbus does it seems very friendly and clear.
Engines died
Capitan:
,,Ou uu this is not good"
02:50 he's the Lufthansa pilot on the Lufthansa A350 documentary that you can watch on the infligt IFE.
he's probably the fleet chief for the A350.
Would've been cool to re-introduce the dual engine failure below 2000ft. Just to watch some very fast decision making.
Having the checklist come up like that is a big bonus rather than trawling through QRH!
Yeah welcome to the 80s I guess xD
4:43 Me my whole life.
What if the scenario brings them at the open ocean? Scary
In that case they will have a long swim home :-) Aircraft engines are however reliable enough that dual engine failure is very unlikely
Kenneth Brodersen Yeah, one of the main reason for dual engine shut down is when there was a miscalculation for fuel.
I believe that ETOPS certification prevents this scenario from happening. All twin-engined planes are restricted to fly in certain areas only where they are a certain number of minutes away from an airport. This way, they will be able to land should an emergency occur.
Visaural Thats true but the pilots are responsibles for knowing how much fuel is left and for the glide to the nearest airport.
Visaural ETOPS is designed for single engine out however.. I think the maximum time usually is about 300-350 minutes. you. Airbus A350 can have ETOPS-370(minutes).. Basically this means the plane can fly 6 hours to it's diversion airport on one engine. Consequently this also means that it is impossible to be able to glide to an airport if flying with no engines and extreme ETOPS.. I'd vaguer the A350 can glide for about 200km depending on conditions. With a speed of 250knots, that'll only be around 25 minutes of flying.
: Everything Auto Restart
: Check
: Ill have one sugar and milk thanks
Superb stuff. So professional. You guys deserve every penny you are paid.
Meanwhile the passengers are talking about how quite the engines are.
It was quite intense and stressing. I must appreciate my life playing only Ace Combat.
Nice automation. Very helpful aircraft. It is interesting to see European pilots are trained in proper communications technique. Americans know that Mayday is a word, but they almost never say it, just "declaring an emergency". And then never mention it again. This and the Thompson bird strike at Manchester Ringway are excellent examples of how you are supposed to make certain everyone knows you are in a life threatening position and need absolutely first priority handling. I have even heard an American in an emergency being given lower priority because ATC didn't know or had forgotten.
"Declaring an emergency" is the equivalency of using ICAO's "PAN PAN" X 3 phraseology. There are some countries (e.g. USA, Japan, China) that do not recognise the term "PAN PAN" thus the only way to ensure priority assistance would be by either transmitting, "Mayday" X 3 (grave or imminent danger) or "Declaring an emergency".
ATC will cease all airport movement (basically shut down the entire airport and alert hospitals at a high priority) if an aircraft declares a Mayday. If the aircraft downgrades the Mayday to a PAN PAN call after the non normal checklists are completed, then the airport authority will block one runway for the emergency aircraft and allow the airport traffic to resume operations.
This is the reason why the Thompson birdstrike was told, " All runways available for landing". Had 'he' declared a PAN PAN, he then could've requested the longest runway available and it would be granted.
Amazing. How the airbus computers give them instructions is brilliant.
Lower collective, right pedal, pitch forward for best auto rotation speed
heli pilot detected
bicycle chain falls off. right brake, both feet on the ground, proceed problem evaluation, grease on the hands check, engage right pedal for tensioning,proceed to your destination.
That respirator is awesome! Awesome design. I wish my full face had that feature!
Would be awesome if they could actually simulate a decompression by reducing the pressure in the simulator. This way pilots could be trained on the effects of hypoxia.
Wow , everyone had done a great job , excellent approach and decision making....
I'm a little surprised the checklist didn't direct them to put on supplemental O2 masks immediately as like the first line item?
Since it's just an engine flameout, there's probably still a few minutes before the cabin altitude hits a dangerous level.
@@sunnyyan1080 I was under the impression most airlines changed their checklists so that putting on your mask is the first step after the South Dakota "ghost flight" Learjet incident in the late '90s, it was found that the pilots had waited too long to deploy their masks and had gone hypoxic leading to the crash and the deaths of everyone aboard. Even after just 30 seconds in reduced oxygen you can be seriously cognitively impaired.
Sarah Riedel that was because the cabin altitude rose with the aircrafts altitude and exceeded 10,000ft because it wasn’t pressurised in the first place. In this scenario the cabin would be pressurised at 6000ft. When the engines failed the cabin altitude would slowly rise but not excessively so they’d have a few minutes until the cabin altitude reached 10,000ft
@@Sarah.Riedel this is qrh made by airbus
Meanwhile on a Swiss Airlines .... Mayday Mayday Mayday .... Someone forgot chocolates for us🤭
Meanwhile I'm stoned in the cabin listening to music.
Fantastic job !...
Great pilots make great landings...
:-)
From Brussels, with Love.....
Can we get serious now?
They were expecting dual engine failures, they know how to react and know exactly where to land.
You don't take human factor in real life when this really happens.
Sully
They didn’t, this was a test for instructors, making sure they know their shit. Often days the pilots don’t know if they will get a emergency, they changed it since sully.
They always know exactly where they land, since they discuss diverting airports along the whole route on briefing before the flight. So in case of an emergency, they immediately have their site to land for each point along the route. Of course it also depends on the immediate conditions.
No they weren’t. And besides this ECAM action checklist is far more detailed than an A320 like sully’s
first of all, the exchange between Sully and the NTSB in the movie is fabricated and made for dramatization the NTSB were very much on Sully's side in the actual investigation the movie just vilified them for Dramatization, second pilots are prepared for dual engine failure, third what Sully in the movie was talking about was making the most optimal decision so as to land the A320 and that's impossible to do, but real world pilots are very very prepared for failures but yes they might not make the most optimal decision, they can get very close to the most optimal decision thats why checklists exist.
Aircraft nowadays! To those (me included) who find themselves difficult to move on from A340, A300, MD-11, B767/757, B744, etc... you gotta let it go before being left far behind
Excellent video, thanks. Also, the guy right at the end, standing up in the corner, is he a Swissair Pilot, he resembles and sounds like on of their Captains I`ve seen on RUclips?
Thanks again!
Engines coming alive! You beautiful aerodynamic wonder you!
The most impressive thing is that they still have autopilot.
There is battery backup and an emergency windmill generator called RAT
You have to marvel at the ECAM procedures and it's ability to prioritize, was taught you do everything it tells you to .....good CRM
It's one of the reasons why most pilots regard the A350 as the most advanced airliner in the air today.
Great video. If you have the Pretrip and post trip break down I would love to be a fly on the wall. No one is perfect and would love to hear what the instructor had to beef about the sim session
Right seat had a gap in the visor of his O2 mask. Had he been under smoke he he would be in big trouble.
Wish I could spend several hours in that simulator! That would be a dream come true!
Nice video keep up the good work
German pilots just saved the lifes of 350 passengers and crew: "slightly exciting". XD love it.
dear santa, i want 1 simulator like this at my backyard.
Both engine cut out in the middle of nowhere "ooh, this is not good"
Cool but I wanted to see the landing with no engines. Is that just me
"Pretty much the worst case scenario - both engines flame out at cruising level."
Captain Sully : "hold my beer..."
Stressful watching even when you know it's a simulator
Especially when you have someone behind you watching and grading your every move😄
I have seen the man who is back controling computers, he is a real A350 pilot there are a video of him piloting this tremendous bird
I wanted them to land with no engines at all! The engine coming back was anticlimatic. Of course if I were up there I would pray for the engines to restart, but this was a simulator.
What a high pressure situation! Kudos!
I would love to hear the pilots' reactions if this were to happen in real life
It would be about like this.
It would look exactly like this, just in a real airplane.
Not the A350 but in the A320 the crew of US Airways 1549 had dual engine flameout at about 3000 ft. They were just as professional and collected in the cockpit voice recorder as these guys, and they had a lot less decision making time.
Santa Claus, I want this simulator for Christmas. I've been a good boy.
i didn't know there is runaway in the middle of Atlantic ocean
Wow! Interesting ! I like the colorful indicates in the cockpit !
5:29 the Devil's smile 🤣🤣
Very Very VERY Realistic. I thought this was a real. Just WOW.
I know this is only a simulator, but i'm sitting here scared as hell for these 2 guys, but wow did they handle that perfectly. I hope never to be a part of that experience.
1:43 "We're doing our best to restart the engines. I trust you aren't too distressed."
0:25 rat man on
I had to look 3 times to see what you mean!
I think I’ve seen the captain land an A380 in another RUclips video. He’s pretty entertaining in a stereotypically professional German way.
They Should of done a Dual Engine Flame out Landing, for good practice in an emergency of course the plane will fly on 1 engine gee its a no brainer
Dual engine failure and stop having all instruments is amazing
"Land ASAP red" what a surprise LOL It´s hilarious it´s actually displayed on ECAM
Pilot: it was your turn to pump the gas this time right?
Co-Pilot: huh? No, I was on snack duty! Remember "don't forget my Slim Jim's & Root Beer this time!" as you were heading towards the plane!....You stopped to play DCS World on the Oculus Rift again didn't you!!!
Pilot:.....you sure it wasn't your turn?
It would have been interesting to see how they would have acted if the engines had not restarted
"We may end up in the Hudson"... ;)
Gimli Glider
excellent flying. very impressive.
that guy has the longest nose in the world
Airliner today.. even when u lost both engine u can still use autopilot & autothrust, all u gotta do is follow the ECAM "computer" of what to do, more like a system operator instead of a pilot 😅 Well that's progress, making the worst possible scenario easier to manage
Worst case scenario would be dual engine failure just after takeoff in a densely populated area...not at cruising altitude.
"Sully !, we've got a problem..." ;-)
Look for flight cactus 1549 ;)
Now i know what i want for Christmas
that NOSE!
hahahaha
Очень рад снова увидеть у себя в рекомендациях видео про самолёты и пилотов,очень дисциплинирует💪💪💪👍
1) Put oxygen mask on!
Why is it so far down the list!?
Cause you don’t want the problem to get worse. The oxygen won’t run out that quick.
DonutFave HD But if it does you also get incapacitated really fast
It's not a rapid depressurization, as with a dual engine failure, only the bleed air source is cut off... Hence there is still enough oxygen and pressure in the cabin to do the most important stuff first...
Because it’s not a rapid depressurisation. The air will leak out very slowly so you have time. If the cabin altitude passed 10000ft a new alarm would go off taking priority over the engine failure then they would put the masks on
msi only when the cabin altitude warning passes 10,000ft or a check lists tells you do you then put the mask on. Air won’t leak out that rapid during engine failure
Good teamwork, nicely done guys!
hot damn they did it so well it appears scripted (doubt it though) lovely demonstration.
Sitting here right before my pc and watching this while hoping we will make it out alive...hope they can land it
würds nochmal für den a320neo üben :D
Cüneyt Pagel sind halt nur 330 340 und 350 Piloten aber bei den PW Engines sollten das am besten auch die Passagiere können 😂😂
Slightly exciting!
GPWS Callouts: 50 40 30 20 Butter
Great for CRM training and the crew at the back know what happens in the flight deck and how busy they get when something happens BUT…
The passenger masks were not released until minutes after the pilots, there was no call to the purser to secure the cabin, not even an “emergency descent, emergency descent” PA so I can assure you there could still be carts in the middle of the cabin.
CRM goes both ways, not only between pilots, but also how things are in the back and that your crew might need more time than you to prepare everything for landing/ditching.
I often have to explain 3 times how to buckle the seatbelts to my passengers
If engines fail the aircraft does not depressurise immediately. The outflow valve closes trapping the air inside so it leaks out more slowly. Masks for crew is just precaution, they could wait for bit longer but the cabin altitude warning would disrupt the flow of the engine restart attempt.
My only concern with the procedure is why do the pilots put oxygen masks on when they come near the middle/bottom of the checklist? Shouldn't it be the first thing the pilots should do before assessing an emergency situation when losing both engines? Just wondering....
My thoughts would be there is enough oxygen in the cockpit to for the pilots to assess for a few minutes what's going on. Overtime, the oxygen supply would be depleted but the pilots will already put on the gas masks. So yeah I could be wrong here.
@ncsakany loss of engines --> loss of compressor bleed air --> loss of cabin pressure. however it might take some time for the remainder of the pressure to leak out.
copilot's nose can generate more lift than both wings together
They should do one where they've been hit by a heat-seeker.
Power lacing respirators like Marty’s power lacing Nike shoes - alright!
We are landing on Hudson.
I'm not a pilot myself but I have seen quite a few crash investigation episodes and heard the talk from CVRs between confused pilots and the tower when "situations" occur. There is just NO way that ones mind, after thousands up on thousands hours up in the air (with nothing of this like of a problem), just accepts a sudden dual engine failure like these two do. It would sure take a few seconds for the brain of the pilots to just silently process the information of this unusual kind. Their thoughts would have been somewhere completely else during this part of the flight, autopilot and all. They would probably not really believe what they saw and start to check and re-check their instruments, talk about the situation, confirm things again and again, suppress the naturally occurring panic (ones life in danger), try a few manoeuvres .. the seconds fly away. When they finally contact the tower, stating dual engine failure, even the tower will most probably have a hard time comprehend this unusual situation; asking what engine failed .. and the pilots would have to repeat themselves. Seconds again. And then some decision making, masks, divert to where (does the computer really know where to go best? - has to be confirmed), the cabin crew need to know, contact the company (I don't know, maybe?), and so on ... Okay, as I said in the beginning, I'm not a pilot. But if something of this magnitude would happen when I'm out driving my car there is no way I would just do the perfect simulation thing and stop the car right on the side of the road. My brain would have to process so many more things than just to hit the brakes just because a driving teacher once told me to. You need to take things in before you can act, and when ones life is in jeopardy you focus hard on doing everything right - trying to remember every step you've trained for, this takes time. There are simulations, theory and then there is reality. Anyway, thanks for the video. Thumbs up for sharing the video although I do not agree with the contents of it. =)
@@msbxii Hi Eric. Thanks for replying. I have no doubt that the simulator and training is effective as to get to an almost automatic response. But the keyword I would look at is "almost". Because: I also have no doubt that a pilot would have to analyse the situation much more thoroughly before getting into this automatic state; like listen to engine noises, listen to aircraft noises, get the feeling for controlling the plane again, check fuel, check fault lights, check other things that I don't know of (because I'm not a pilot), at least a few seconds of reflecting with each other ... before getting to that automatic state that they trained for. That's what I was trying to say. Theory vs reality, something that makes us humans.
M R Then that is why you are not suitable of becoming a pilot. As a pilot, you should never, ever, ignore a certain warning or push a possible scenario away.
Watch the Mentour channel explaining how all the stuff works and how pilots think. That will help you a lot in your understanding of how the aviation industry works.
They even prepare before the flight, with deviation airports and procedures, at every point of their route. They think and act in the way, „better safe than sorry“, with everything they do.
Engine says dual engine failure. They’d probably also realise that it’s gone quiet, their instruments have suddenly stopped working and a ton of warning lights go on and alarms. That is enough to realise you have dual engine failure. And that’s why airbus has ECAM actions. You immediately follow them do your brain isn’t wondering “umm errr what do I do now”
Lufthansa is a very good company, not like Airfrance.
Bollocks
Why?
Could you tell us your reasoning behind, please? Or is it simply French bashing? Obviously, you are not an airline pilot, are you?
Yeah France sucks
Stupid comment. Airline safety is not football.
This aircraft makes the procedures so easy!