Archaeological Frauds: The Kensington Runestone
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2023
- The Kensington Runestone, found in the late 19th century in Minnesota (USA) has been the focus of several studies to determine its authenticity. The great majority of experts in Scandinavian history of linguistics and written forms consider it to be an hoax, and in this video I shall give more details. Hope you enjoy it.
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Scandinavian-Americans, I think (speaking as one), have made much more interesting impressions on the land our ancestors immigrated to. Our churches (we have a modern stave church in South Dakota, constructed with old techniques, I think it's pretty cool), our community centers where we would practice craft traditions, and old farms, without needing to make false claims about fake indigeneity. I do sympathize with the makers of the Kensington stone, I think they felt incredibly displaced even if they didn't know how to talk about that. Current generations still feel that way. We can't shake the reality that we are colonizers of a land that didn't birth us--our ancestors directly benefited from the oppression and displacement of the indigenous people of the Americas. I think we feel our own displacement--and the harm of the displacement we benefited from--at our very center.
I really want to hear more of the European diaspora talk honestly about that, here in the US, but to then make positive actions with that feeling--reconnecting with the cultural practices of their ancestors rather than some imagined 'viking' past. Food, clothing, dances, stories, etc. They want to glorify ideas that they may have had warrior ancestors but skip right over, say, Grandpa Ole from Telemark or Uncle Tjere from Amli, lol. What? Too good to say Hej to Grandpa Ole and Uncle Tjere??? 😆
I appreciate you saying that. I'm Lakota, enrolled at Standing Rock and my Oceti Sakowin people have been in Minnesota and South/North Dakota for hundreds of years. Indigenous people have been on the continent for 15,000+ years. I would rather respect our differences and have European descendants reconnect with their heritage than have European Americans try to fake being a member of a Native tribal nation. Colonization has produced many people who have lost the connection with their ancestors and there is no substitute for that. Knowing where your ancestors originated gives a person a grounding that nothing else can replace. Americans are often rootless and get caught up in fads and cults that imo they are attempting to remember where and how their own ancestors lived.
Even though hoaxes are "wrong"; The Kensington Runestone lit a fire for Norse culture and made the people more proud and more aware of their culture.
That's only until they find out that the Vikings weren't the "first" to reach American shores. But if people wanna be "proud" about Vikings' heritage, rapists and pillagers, go right ahead and be proud of whatever you want.
@@Smokin_Phat_Dabs Yeah you are right about that. Not good to try and fool people to believe that aspect.
Not a hoax. That'd why no one will tell anyone the other artifacts we have found in the Kensington-Alexandria area. We know...
@@manxcat7377 I have learned a lot since I commented this. I believe this runestone over any history that has been told to me about America my whole life. I am of swedish decent so i would love to believe it's real. I know mainstream American history is completely false.
I'm not a real big fan of the nordic culture neither one of those heavy metal boys to claim to be Wotan resurrected, no more nor less. What I really claim to be is an admirer of the human civilization and ancient cultures(and the Scandinavian, nordic, norse or whatever is being knowned as is an important part of the human chain which if is broken or lost never will let us to understand oneself as we really are( as a whole with every human being) Just saying this channel is a real oasis of knowledge. Thank you Arith and go on with this great job.
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I am convinced the vikings made it to Mexico. When i was a kid the legend i was told is that the aztecs expected the return of tall bearded men, which would explain a bit of why they didn't shoot the hell out of Cortés when they had the chance.
Enchanté comme vous seul me le faites ressentir. Incroyable est un contenu heureux.
Thank you Arith for sharing!
With pleasure! Thank you for watching ^^
What a fascinating topic, I was never aware of the difficulties archaeologists face when identifying artifacts made of stone.
I particularly appreciate your conclusion. Thank you.
I believe you are finally an interesting find on you tube. Love your style of detail explanation.
I am currently reading The River Kings, a great book which shows an insight on how archeologists try to reconstuct the past and how difficult this can be. For example, i never knew that people who had eaten mostly fish in their lives will most likely be dated older as skelletal remains than persons of their same age who ate differently😮Just an example😅
In art there are lots of forgeries too, sometimes people will just see what they want to see or expect to see. I never heard of the Kensington Stone, thanks again for clarifying the facts from fiction, always a pleasure watching your posts Arith😊
The largest Ball of Twine, however, is real and can also be found in Minnesota, USA. Nice.
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great bit of information Arith ! many thanks kiddo !
Thanks for this one Arith, very important information here - archeological forgeries as tools for historical revisionism by elites. Have you ever spoken about Estonian vikings of Saaremaa - Oeselians? Estonia was a Pagan stronghold of Europe.
Check out all reported findings from Minnesota, the Dakotas, and up to Winnipeg ,Canada to the Hudson Bay area. Norsk long boats and tools have been found. The natives did not know how to clinker build them with stone and bone tools. Lewis and Clark met a group of Mandan natives on their journey to the west. They had Blue eyes and some had blond hair. And look Nortak. The Stone is real.
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Truth-Facts-Truth! Keep sharing it 😎
Explain how the stone was entangled in roots
He can't, he's an idiot without a clue. 😂
Minnesotan here. I actually got my minor in Norse Language and Literature after writing a final on this runestone and all of the reasons why it's a forgery. There was actually too much evidence against it to coherently fit into a single paper. I didn't even get into the numeric system that was used. I like what Dr. Jackson Crawford said about it when he said so much of the language was so out of date, it was akin to finding "lol" written on a 17th or 18th century primary document.
Thanks for a very interesting topic. Ahh, those Swedes 😄
Actually, the Kensington Runestone was examined by geologists in the early 2,000s and was found to show an oxidation layer that loosely dated it to the time it was said to have been created - the mid 14th century. Olof Öhman had only a 6th grade education. It would be difficult to fake the oxidation layer and it would be highly unlikely that forgers in 1898 would either know about oxidation layers or plan ahead to generate such a layer, especially a farmer with a grade school education. As there are other rune examples from the same time period that show the same rune oddities as the runestone, both in the US and Europe, and as the Amerindians were _very_ given to the sort of slaughters described on the stone, the two main objections, the possibility of a forgery is again reduced. There are dozens of runestones found in the area, ranging from Maine to Oregon, so the likelihood of so many could have been forged is again very low. Mr. Öhman quickly became and died a pariah as a result of the "scholars" who immediately dismissed the runestone as a forgery, but he never recanted his story, again making a forgery seem unlikely. I believe it continues to be dismissed as a forgery only for political reasons and because so many academians are on record claiming it as a forgery. As the saying goes, "science advances one funeral at a time".
Did you watch the video? The stone uses language inappropriate for its supposed date, see expert Norse language professor Jackson Crawford who has a youtube video on it, also the stone is a local stone with very similar examples in the local church yard - I wonder where they got the idea from! Cheers from Mercia
@@antonyreyn I watched the video and I've also read a research write-up or two on the stone. More recent reviews of literature from the time is said to show, albeit rare, examples of the same language that appears on the stone. More importantly, back in 1898 when the stone was found, modern science was still new. Geologists were still "naturists" and geophysics and geochemistry were unknown. Although oxygen was discovered 100 years earlier, in 1898 you couldn't go to a store and buy a bottle. It had only begun being isolated for welding purposes in 1887, a decade earlier, and was only available to industry which as yet didn't have much use for it. How, then, does a stone which has set the last 100 years in a protected museum vault come by 500 years of oxide layer on its surface? It would require an oxygen chamber and heat or UV to fake. Such chambers didn't exist yet, oxygen was unavailable, and UV lights didn't yet exist. Also, who would have thought to fake that aspect of the stone back then? I have to side with the geochemists on this one.
@@antonyreynLOL!!! That idiot is NO expert...he totally over looked the carved date of 1362, that date is carved onto the stone twice. One clear as day as for the other, it's written in code and this was not discovered until AFTER Olof died in 1935. Now, unless if Olof knew magic and can make changes from beyond he grave...its 10,000,000% real.
I live just north of Alexandria Minnesota and have family / friends in Kingston. Was tickled to see a story from my area, but I can assure you that people around here don't care if it is a fake or not. Most think it probably is fake, but regardless it is still cool. Its authenticity is as important as Paul Bunyan's tales. 😅
You explained that very well
Just over the Arkansas border to my west is the Heavener rune stone, which is also a fake, but a nice little park to go camping at or to hike at , it is a gathering place for neo Pagans and Asatru , but the Christians had the hill blessed and they place 3 large crosses on the mountain
I was once told that the Americans founded Norway.
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Refreshing his speech. Thank you Arith.Always interesting, always instructive.
Thank you, as always :D
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Mr. Hargar's proclamation that the Kensington Runestone is a fraud is based on his own theories, and not much proof or facts. He should read the entire chronology. Olaf;s son, who is the one who actually discovered the stone first, claimed that Olaf , when he first saw it said, " Was Indians that carved it'' indicating if true, that he was not much into runic incription.
Bibliography at the end of the video.
My favorite forgeries are the medieval Christian ones, like items from the crucification and relics. The Vatican and kings and queens paid LOTS of money 🤣
All the archeological experts declared it was FAKE RUNES.
Then they went to an island in the old country and actually found the fake runes and now they are real runes.
Those were probably the same archeological experts that denied L'Anse aux Meadows for years. I mean those norse sagas were just fairy tales, until they were shown to not be.
I get what you say, however, for the case of this monument, it's not just archeologists but also quite a lot of expert runologists that deny the authenticity of this monument. When I did this video, it was based on the latest research. However, I must say, as an example of my own country (Portugal) the Alvão prehistoric runiform was also considered fake for practically 100 years, until in 2010 they were considered the real deal. More research may help to better determine the authenticity (or not) of things.
How dumb are you?
Since the book that is mentioned as the last published work about the Kensington stone is from 2019, it might not mention that there are runes that looks *very similar* to the ones on the Kensington stone in a house in Hassela, Hälsingland, Sweden. This is just 50 km (short distance in Sweden) from where Olof Öhman was born.
Olof Öhman = the person who found the stone.
Since the strangeness of some of the runes is one of the things that has been debated and used as "evidence" that the sone could be real this might be nice to know.
Parts of Sweden (like Hälsingland and Älvdalen) used runes still in the 19th century.
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So what is the evidence that it is a forgery? You don’t bring hardly any evidence except from the recently found letter dating from that time… which could be a forgery itself.
I’m not doubting there is evidence but you don’t offer any
OP is chasing views and they don't care of how they do it. Lying is the only way for them, doing real research is far too advanced for them as seen here.
With that BS out of the way, one major detail a lot of morons miss is the carved date of 1362. That date appears on the stone twice, one clear as day '1362' as for the other. It's written in code within the runes itself and this was not discovered until AFTER Olof's death in 1935.
In other words, not unless if Olof knew Magic and can make changes from beyond the grave, it's 10,000,000% real.
Idk, the national geographic documentary had me convinced it was real. That was years a go though
Aye, thanks for the video. Looks like a cool house you live in. Check a doco on here called "Close Encounters Of The Lohud Kind". There's a section in there that has pictures of some lodgings many consider to be Celtic that I'm assuming are also in Lohud which is a place somewhere in the U.S.A. Thanks again for the video...
It's already been proven that the Vikings were here before Columbus. As for the Kensington rune stone, you can argue with Scott Wolters about that. History is not what we've been taught. The government very much controls all of what we know. It's a fact that is very much validated every day.
Oh yeah! A dirt farmer has massive free time to carve out runes, even on the edge of a slab of rock like the kensington stone. Kindly study the miserable life of being a dirt farmer in the US to understand WHY no farmer would bother to waste precious time with no hope of compensation to do this work.
It couldn't be real, it measures 76 by 41 by 15 centimeters. The metric system wasn't created till 1670, soooo...
It is fake but the numbers u have just quoted are random , I could understand if you said it was 100 by 50 by 20, even the pyramid of Egypt is some or other height in metric that speaks nought to when it was constructed. Cheers from Mercia
@@antonyreyn It was snark, It was my attempt at being funny. Of course it's all relative.
@@ts109And how is that going for you so far? Smooth-brained idiots, you know nothing. 😂 Mentioning the metric system means nothing when you should be paying attention to the carved dated of 1362 because that date appears on the stone twice. One clear as day '1362', as for the other date, it's hidden in code among the runes itself and this was not discovered until AFTER Olof's death in 1935. In other words, unless if Olof knew magic and can make changes from beyond the grave, its10,000,000% real.
The stone might be a forgery but Aryans were in America since ancient times indeed
12:00 Arith - I don't know if it's your english, but your explanation makes no sense. Not saying the stone is authentic, but you really need to go back to the drawing board. - A US Professor.
It's real, look at the date of 1362 that's carved onto it, that date appears twice. One clear as day 1362, as for the other, it is hidden in code among the runes itself and this was not discovered until after Olof death in 1935...in other words, unless if Olof knew magic and could make changes from beyond the grave, it is without a doubt 10,000,000% real.
forensic geologist scott wolter examined the stone with advanced scientific equipment and determined that the carving iss weathered down inside the grooves, proving,,,,,,,,, its old. Ive just lost respect for you arith. 😥